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Rue being the 75th death is ironic and beautiful: she was basically what started the rebellion, snapping Katniss into disobedience, and the 75th hunger games were the last ones, the tipping point as the rebellion broke off
Well, actually there were 76 hunger games because at the end of the third book Katniss and the others decided to make a last hunger games with the children of the important people in the capitol :|
I´m very sorry for Annie because Finnick was the only one to help her with her traumatic experiences. It´s also very tragic that Finnick will never get to know his son who has to grow up without a father. I hope that they´ll find peace 💙
Thresh's death will always be wayyyy underrated to me because he saved Katniss' life in the most badass way possible and spared her outta respct for Rue
@@stateIine If it wasn't for Katniss and Rue teaming up Thresh would have won 100%. He was way bigger and stronger than Cato, Peeta would have died because Katniss didn't come back to him.
Sejanus death is probably the most heartbreaking death I’ve read in a book. Especially the fallout with his family and them never knowing that they gave all their money to the man responsible
I don't think any death (even rue, finnick or prims) effected me as much as Sejanus's. Something about "But all Corionlanus could see was that 8 year old boy on the playground, clutching the bag of gumdrops." broke me. An innocent child killed because of Snows actions and he continued to manipulate the Plinths
Prim’s death could possibly be one of the most tragic deaths in all of fiction. Katniss’s whole entire journey began when she volunteered to protect her and she dies from the bomb in the last moments of conflict:( the scene with her cat is even more heart breaking
See I know it was heartbreaking and written a lot better in the book, but I personally wasn’t that touched I understand it was heartbreaking for Katniss but it felt strange and out of character
I think that Haymitch's family and girlfriend should have been added to this list, as they definitely had an effect on Haymitch, and were used by Snow to keep other tributes in line. On the whole, though, very good.
*Fun Fact:* The first time I read Mockingjay, I didn't believe I had read Finnick's death right. I reread that section five times and then proceeded to look it up because I thought it was a printing mistake. I still cry whenever I think about it 😖
Awww🥺🥺 I mis-read online that Effie died so throughout the whole films I was terrified of when it would happen, so you can imagine my huge relief when she is alive at the end! I cried anyway though because it was such a huge fear of mine💜
I had to re-read Prim's death several times because I was like that when she died and thought I couldn't be reading it right. I was so heartbroken when I read that part.
@@henadelacruz8460 I don’t think Lucy Gray was katniss’s grandmother. I think that was Maude Ivory. I think Lucy Gray escaped to 13 and Coin is her granddaughter
I was kinda sad about Foxface and even Clove in a way because l really liked her character. If Katniss and Peeta didn’t win, I’d either have wanted Rue, Foxface, or Clove to win instead.
I think Collins made a symbol of 'poetic justice' with Snows death, she left the reader to decide what happened to Snow, the same technique she used for Lucy Gray.
I could be wrong but I decided that Lucy didn't die. between the hanging tree song being passed down, to the way she is described in the book, something tells me that Lucy is apart of Katniss' lineage in some way
@@ariwilliams5263 I think Maude Ivory passed down The Hanging Tree, as it's said she remembers every song and would have replaced Lucy as a singer, plus I think in the book her description resembles the Everdeen lineage.
@@ariwilliams5263 I think I read somewhere that Suzanne Collins was asked about that and she confirmed Lucy gray Baird is katniss's paternal grandmother which means katniss's fathers mother was Lucy gray but I believe she changed her name to not be found out hell in the book Lucy talks about katniss and how it will keep someone from going hungry ,a known fact Lucy told 'corio' and fast forward 64 year's and when snow meets katniss everdeen and you can feel the uter hatred he has for her and her pin the golden mockingjay , I think deep down he knows she's Lucy's descent it's just not brought up in the books I think it's why he can't be fooled of peeta and katniss's star crossed lover's story because he has had to deal with someone who he actually truly loved and had to kill her because he thought she betrayed him, it's not until he sees her reaction to peeta hitting the force feild and his heart stopping that he truly believes that their love is real but at that point she is snows enemy and "it's the ones that we love the most that destroy us"
@@Leaf30003 it’s because the actress who played Clove was fifteen, and the actor who played Cato was in his twenties, that’s also why they built up romance between Cato and Glimmer
@@hansikakapoor910I didn’t know that about Clove’s actress and why they didn’t include Cato holding her. In the books though Glimmer did flirt (unsuccessfully) with Cato a lot so it wasn’t something made up for the movie. The Clove and Cato closeness actually surprised me in the book because I felt like they wouldn’t have tried to get close because only one of them could win (before the surprise announcement). District 2 took the games extremely seriously and as an honor, so Cato actually mourning clove really surprised me based on all that
I think fox face killed herself because she knew everything about the berries and herbs. She probably did this so her family didn’t suffer and have to watch her be in pain.
Agreed, she was way to smart and strategic for it to be a mistake. She would have know that based on the tributes left, there was no way she would win. The berries were the quickest and safest way for her to die while also protecting her family. Props to her for making it look like an accident
That's what I wondered about too, she seemed smart enough to know when it looked like she would lose, maybe she just wanted to go out on her own terms and not in an extremely brutal way like she had seem some of the others go through.
I actually don't think so. The scene in wich she showed her knowlege of wild plants was only in the movies, not in the books if I recall correctly. Additionally the berries are only naturally growing in the forests around District 12 and 13, so she didn't know Nightlocks from her childhood. She was amongst the last five Tributes wich is an odd time to commit suicide as she had a pretty good chance of winning. There was plenty of opportunities for her killing herself before that, so why trying to survive by stealing food for so long? She died because Peeta outsmarted (or outstupided?) her. Not suicide.
He missed when Enobaria ripped a tribute’s throat out with her teeth. It affected a tribute with a name because it said that Enobaria got her teeth sharpened specifically because of that.
cinna, prim, and finnick's deaths were by far the saddest. cinna knew what he was doing when he made the mockingjay wedding dress but katniss didn't or she would have stopped him. prim was the only person katniss was ever certain she loved. and finnick was so happy with annie and had been through so much it just wasn't fair. tbh rue's death wasn't as sad for me because katniss knew that she would have to die eventually. i expected it to come but cinna, finnick, and prim's deaths were so sudden and sad.
I agree. I’m actually re reading the trilogy now. Cinna’s death was just as upsetting as the first time I read it. I’m on Mockingjay and I’m dreading reading Finnick and Prim’s deaths again. Finnick was one of my favorite characters and I remember the very first time I read Prim’s death, I was shocked. I kept flipping back and forth to make sure I read it correctly.
It is strongly implied that Lyme died in the rebellion. She was a victor, but wasn't part of the "council" of victors that decided if there should be one final Hunger Game with Capitol children. She was probably killed by order of Coin, as any additional victor was a threat to her reign.
I firmly believe that Foxface knowingly committed suicide. She was way too intelligent to just take the word or action of Peta, who she knew didn't have too adequate survival skills.
That doesn't make sense though, because the training scene was only in the movie. Most likely, she accidentally ate the berries since Nightlocks only grew around 12. Since there were many more opportunities for her to commit suicide before this and raise less suspicion. Since there were only 4 people left, a lot of the cameras would be on her. Why would she do this? There's a greater chance of her slipping up and having her family punished than if she just offed herself right away.
Definitely not, there were many more ways to do this a lot earlier, such as the mine trap she carefully hopped through, or just collecting her own nightlock. She had been taking small bits of food and watching the other tributes throughout the games. She was clearly an opportunistic scavenger who made a bad call with the berries due to hunger. She was definitely clever and observant but highly intelligent is a stretch, in the books she is not mentioned at training. Katniss only mentions her own skill in edible plant training, which other tributes presumably noticed as Haymitch warns them. Foxface, seeing Katniss and Peeta finally being together towards the end of the games, most likely assumed that anything the two gathered must be safe since Katniss was knowledgable and would have checked their food. She was in 4th place and had a good chance at winning with her strategy, no way she would throw that away so late in the games.
So I did the math. Twenty three people died in 73 of the 75 Games (24 tributes, one winner). For the 50th, 47 died (48 tributes and only Hamish survived), in the 74th 22 died (two winners) and in the 75th, 18 died (six survived). This means in total, 1766 people died over the course of the entire series just from the Games.
@Someone 333 Madge died when Snow fire bombed and destroyed District 12 at the end of Catching Fire. Only 900 out of 10000 people escaped to 13, and Madge wasn't one of them unfortunately.
Having Crane eat the berries (we assume he eats them anyway) was a great addition to the movie. I really wish that had been in the book too because it was a very powerful scene, the actor's facial expressions and mannerisms were excellent during that scene though, he pulled it off well.
@@AlexCubGaming yeah, I believe something to that effect was also said in the second book (it's been a while since I've read them so my memory is a bit fuzzy) but the scene of Crane being locked in the room to eat the berries wasn't in the books. Though to be fair, the other commenter is correct in that it probably wasn't in the books due to it being written from Katniss' point of view and she didn't witness any of that, they were able to put it in the movie because the movies were able to show more outside of Katniss' view.
@@AlexCubGamingyes he hung himself because he didnt want to go with the berries. If I remember it correctly he did it because he didnt want to do it as Snow planned
Some may not of noticed the following: Death 50 was the girl Haymitch was against. It was the 50th Hunger Games, and made Haymitch the winner Death 75 was rue. Rue could have been the mockingjay. It also happened to be the 75th hunger games, that the rebellion begins. For those who don’t notice, this video is truly poetic. R.I.P. Prim
I was so surprised when Prim died. She was one of my favorite characters and I assumed she would make it through the series. But when she died right at the end... I reread that paragraph so many times because I couldn't accept that she had just died like that 😭
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Coins death I saw coming after she talked to Snow. And he reminded her how they promised never to lie to each other. And how coin sent Peeta even though he wanted to kill her at first. Snow was on death's door anyway.
In the books Katniss talks about Prim and stuff, like stories about her and her ability to heal people, but we barely know her. And after Katniss starts a whole rebellion stemming from her volunteering for Prim, Prim dies after all that and it's like *the fuck was the point???*
Sejanus's was pretty bad to. His wasn't necessarily brutal but it was slow. Not only this but he also had to know that his "best friend" had just betrayed him for recognition. Honestly horrible. 😞
Literally everyone in the games died awfully first the random tributes being slaughtered by careers then glimmer stung by hundreds of bees and marvel taking an arrow to he heart and rue speared in the stomach clove getting her skull bashed fox face die poison berry and Cato ripped part and thresh die to Cato like my point is no one had a good way to go
In mockingjay when the citizens of the capital all gather up, to find a new home, a lot of people died. The saddest for me was that little girl, whose mother died, And when Katniss saw her, she was crying over her mom's dead body. Even though we did not know her, It was still very sad.
I still think Finnick's death was the most tragic and undeserving death in the entire series - I'm still upset about it... I would honestly love an expansion on Finnick's games and what his life after the games was like both as a mentor, what happened with his "lovers", meeting annie, seeing how he joined the rebellion etc. I feel like that would be really interesting - although I doubt that'll happen :(
Now that we're getting Haymitch's games, I wanna believe that Suzanne Collins will release books (or novels, at least) on stories with Finnick, Annie (Possibly even a one book, with dual POV on them would do the job) and Johanna. It's just an assumption, thought
When seeing the title of this video, I first wondered how so many people could have died. Then I remembered that the series is literally about children murdering each other
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@Rea Abrahamse it's unconfirmed as to whether or not it was a suicide, but i err on the side of it being true. It makes no sense for her to mess up so easily in her area of expertise. She didn't want to be in it anymore, but didn't want the Capitol/audience to KNOW she was bowing out because her family and friends would have suffered for it. So, she painted it to look like a suicide.
I don't think so. The scene in which she showed her knowlege was a movie scene, not book scene, if I recall correctly. The Nightlocks only grow naturally in the forests around District 12 and 13, so she didn't know them from childhood. She was among the last surviving Tributes and could have won by outsmarting them all. If you think that she didn't want to win (which is actually a fair assumption) there would have been lots of opportunities for her to kill herself without anyone raising an eybrow for it. But now as one of the last Survivors, all the cameras pointed at her, committing suicide would be less suspicious??? No, Peeta simply outsmarted (or better say outstupided) her by gathering berries that he thinks are edible and therefore making Foxface think the same tragically.
@@TheNerdyOrganist thing is nightlock are put in the arena quite often plus their really deadly so they would be on the plant thing, she may have committed suicide she may have not but either way she probably knew or either forgot or ate them on purpose, but either way she ate them and died
A few more confirmed deaths during the Dark Days you didn't mention: Lucy Gray's parents and siblings. Her father was shot, IIRC, and a Peacekeeper cracked her mother's head.
It’s kind of weirdly poetic when you think about it the first death to the last one with all of the other ones in between but I guess that’s just the hunger games for you.
I enjoy Hunger games as books (I only own Mockingbird though as paperback) and the movies, saw them recently and they were perfect to me and have inspirated me much with my own writing ❤ I wonder if Snow ever heard the "Hanging tree" song and ever realized the song Lucy Grey wrote/sang was his downfall in the end.
Lucy Grey sang Hanging Tree to Snow as a coded message for them to meet at the hanging tree before they were going to run away together at the end of the prequel. He knew.
@@DisneyLuver97 yea but I think the OG comment was more referring to when Katniss sang the song for one of the propos, and when they aired Snow saw it and realised it was Lucy Greys song
Let’s have a moment of silence for these sad sad deaths Prim Rue Cinna Finnick Boggs And honestly Fox Face, I think she literally killed herself so her family didn’t have to watch her die from someone else killing her-
I'm not sure this counts but in the first Hunger games book rue mention a boy who had the mind of a 3 year old was killed by peacekeepers for playing with glasses
Fun fact, I personally think Seneca's crane's death was showed like that based in the ancient philosopher Seneca, who was ordered to commit suicide after trials
I am truly amazed that nobody committed suicide to put themselves out of their misery rather than to save someone else, as I don't think it would be worth living in the Hunger Games universe.
There are only two characters in all of the hundreds of books I’ve read, who’s death made me put the book down and recover. Plenty plenty plenty of characters have made me sob my eyes out, but only two so far have I had to physically put the book down for a while before I could keep reading- one was from a Stephen King novel, and the other was Finnick O’Daire.
I always thought maybe it could be a head turner. Just imagine. Coin was lucy gray. I mean come on, in the movies voin was basically gray. I mean literally the color gray, gray uniform (not just for her), gray hair, gray building, gray everything.
@@theoutcastedchannel6212 Well, it could be, but it is unlikely. Coin is described as being "fifty or so", and Lucy Gray would be 81. But I think Lucy Gray could be Coin's mother. That would make it easier for Coin to become president since Lucy Gray would be well-known in district 13. And, I think, they are sort of similar in behavior.
@@theoutcastedchannel6212 she spent most of her live in 12 even after winning the games however her family originally were nomads/travellers who wandered around
I remember reading the Sejanus death, it just break me. I had to stop reading for two days because it was just too much. Everything with that death was *TOO* much.
I was under the impression when I read the Hunger Games that they didn't use the bodies of the dead tributes for the mutt dogs. Instead they gave them all characteristics of each fallen tribute in order to torment Katniss, Peeta, and Kato.
Most people say "Oh, poor Rue, she didn't deserve it, she's only 12..." but most people forget that the District 4 Male, Bravura, was also 12 - possibly younger than Rue was. I've taken quite a liking to Bravura, actually - I was expecting him to get to Day 3 or 4, but he unfortunately died in the Bloodbath when he was found by Cato and stabbed to death. He has a handsome appearance in the movies, too - played by Ethan Jamieson. I think people forget that while others are of more significance, random people we only heard about once's deaths are still sad and heartbreaking. Edit - I got the name Bravura, and his age, 12, from Fandom. Bravura was originally his name in the old film script, and he was supposed to step off the pedestal too early and get his legs blown off. The age was on his tribute card, but I can't be certain he was younger than Rue - he just looks younger. So don't correct me!
Another theory for Foxface's death was she did it on purpose, so she wouldn't have to face Katniss, Peeta, Cato and Thresh and have a more slow, painful death. Prim's goat, Lady, also died.
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Something interesting I found with the prequel was that even though it was written from Snow's perspective and shared his thoughts, it was written in third person, not first. Does anyone know why Suzanna Collins may have done this?
@@sophiaenglish2754 So agree even with 4 movies there's still material that wasn't included in the movies they cut out. I was glad I read the books before seeing the movies.
The dead tributes in the first book weren’t turned into wolf mutts. Katniss thinks about it in the third book, saying that the wolves had the tribute’s eyes which was specifically engineered to unhinge and freak out Katniss and the remaining tributes. The tribute’s bodies are supposed to be sent home to their families, which is stated a few times throughout the book.
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Great video I love how you included the differences with the movies. You should rlly do a video essay on every hunger games movie, that would be interesting
I’m not sure if this was mentioned in the video, but there was a tribute that was mentioned in the first book that got themselves killed because they dropped something on the platform before the countdown started/ended. They got blown to bits. I’m pretty sure this was in between the Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes and the first book. As this never happened in the 74th+ hunger games. Which only means that it was in between the Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes and the first book.
"he put pressure on his injured knee causing him to fall and snap his neck" Me: **hears something hit the side of the dryer making a popping noise at the perfect time**
Rue was the 2nd character I ever cried over in a book. My grandma who is an avid reader knew what was going on and came to comfort me. Even in the movies I still bawled over rue. Then Mags happened and it started all over again, this time my mom comforting me since she read them before me. Even in the movie I cried for her death. Then we have Finnick who honestly deserved so much more, book and movie are so sad and heart wrenching.
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I can't express in words how BADLY i want a book and a movie on Haymitch's hunger games
Yess!
I can’t express how much I agree with you
Book first, then a movie
This a video he used some of the footage from for Haymitches games. It’s a really good, 25 minute vid that explains a lot
YES
Rue being the 75th death is ironic and beautiful: she was basically what started the rebellion, snapping Katniss into disobedience, and the 75th hunger games were the last ones, the tipping point as the rebellion broke off
Yeah it’s kind of poetic ain’t it?
@@nmoney6655 yeah, it is.
aww she's my favourite character along with Cinna and prim so this comment makes me happy
Well, actually there were 76 hunger games because at the end of the third book Katniss and the others decided to make a last hunger games with the children of the important people in the capitol :|
@@alexcasares2405 they wanted to but never went through with that after Katniss Killed Coin
Finnick Odair is the best and most tragic Hunger Games character and deserved so much better.
I was upset he died he was my favourite from all the character which is strange since he came much later in the movie.
I agree
You're right
Straight facts.
I´m very sorry for Annie because Finnick was the only one to help her with her traumatic experiences. It´s also very tragic that Finnick will never get to know his son who has to grow up without a father. I hope that they´ll find peace 💙
The amount of tribute deaths before the tenth games began is HUGE
Ikr 😂 Like half of the tributes died
@@caprial 9 with 10th one being captured before and to be executed in the games by one of the tributes
I expected there to be more deaths-
Thresh's death will always be wayyyy underrated to me because he saved Katniss' life in the most badass way possible and spared her outta respct for Rue
Yeah, I'm sooo mad about his death. Dude was a fucking beast.
@@stateIine If it wasn't for Katniss and Rue teaming up Thresh would have won 100%. He was way bigger and stronger than Cato, Peeta would have died because Katniss didn't come back to him.
I agree.
@@emilycanfield2634 um cato ran him down and thanks to him being more skillful killed thresh
@@emilycanfield2634i think without Katniss, it would’ve come down to Cato, Thresh and Foxface (i think she could’ve found a way to outsmart them).
Rue, Cinna and Finnicks death still make me cry
And Prim :(
wait cinna died?! it’s been a long time since i read the books...
same :((
I cried when Rue and Prim died
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Sejanus death is probably the most heartbreaking death I’ve read in a book. Especially the fallout with his family and them never knowing that they gave all their money to the man responsible
I don't think any death (even rue, finnick or prims) effected me as much as Sejanus's. Something about "But all Corionlanus could see was that 8 year old boy on the playground, clutching the bag of gumdrops." broke me. An innocent child killed because of Snows actions and he continued to manipulate the Plinths
Honestly one of the only deaths actually felt, the others being Prim and Cinna,I never really got to know Rue so I didn’t really care
@@balladofthegoddesswas this in the book ? What kid got killed cause of snow
@@scvpink5683 sejanus
@@scvpink5683it’s in the ballad of songbirds and snakes
Prim’s death could possibly be one of the most tragic deaths in all of fiction. Katniss’s whole entire journey began when she volunteered to protect her and she dies from the bomb in the last moments of conflict:( the scene with her cat is even more heart breaking
I hated the scene tho. I couldn’t feel the grief of Katniss until that scene of the cat. I wish she had a daughter 😢
@@vinnusvshe had. A boy and a girl.
See I know it was heartbreaking and written a lot better in the book, but I personally wasn’t that touched I understand it was heartbreaking for Katniss but it felt strange and out of character
*Katniss coming back from the Hunger Games hurt both mentally and physically*
Gale: Salty because She Kissed another Boy and kills her Sister
He never meant to kill Prim, he felt awful afterwards lay off Gale please he was a good person
@@JJ-bp1yp he committed a war crime tho
@Emma Lindelow he felt awful!
@@LooneyLei Snow and Coin did worse!
@@JJ-bp1yp Doesn’t excuse the dead civiles that include children
Lets just appreciate about how long this must’ve taken for Morgan to make and how he even sectioned the video for us. We don’t deserve him
I’m crying rn
yeah how can some one be so good at telling stories and so much dedication i strive to be like him one day
@@edcaluag7655 we need a movie adaptation of the ballad of songbirds and snakes I’ll play Lucy Gray Baird
@@nmoney6655 ill play snow
He is just the absolute mvp
I think that Haymitch's family and girlfriend should have been added to this list, as they definitely had an effect on Haymitch, and were used by Snow to keep other tributes in line. On the whole, though, very good.
+ johanna’s family!!
I was waiting to see them, so i was surprised when i saw katniss's father but not them😢
Oops, bound to happen
Wow he even put a Criteria in here here.This guy worked so hard. He deserves lots of ice cream.
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@@lydiakirsch5142 amen
*Fun Fact:* The first time I read Mockingjay, I didn't believe I had read Finnick's death right. I reread that section five times and then proceeded to look it up because I thought it was a printing mistake. I still cry whenever I think about it 😖
Awww🥺🥺 I mis-read online that Effie died so throughout the whole films I was terrified of when it would happen, so you can imagine my huge relief when she is alive at the end! I cried anyway though because it was such a huge fear of mine💜
@@softkookie-ii9ph I thought she lived in the books
@@Oshawott1991 yeah she does ^^
Ikr 😭
I had to re-read Prim's death several times because I was like that when she died and thought I couldn't be reading it right. I was so heartbroken when I read that part.
It amazes me how Suzanne Collins created two characters as ICONIC as Katniss and Lucy Gray.Both so different from eachother but so easily likeable.
And they both torment snow
I Think they are family
@@julbeccagaming7268 It's a theory, Lucy Gray being Katniss' grandmother. But it's just a theory.
@@henadelacruz8460 I don’t think Lucy Gray was katniss’s grandmother. I think that was Maude Ivory. I think Lucy Gray escaped to 13 and Coin is her granddaughter
@@smallgraydonguy Oh I know, but it will be a good theory if she was.
I was the saddest in these people’s death:
Rue, Cinna, Finnick, Prim, Boggs
Also mags
@@bhargavshah4135 meh not really
Sejanus
I was kinda sad about Foxface and even Clove in a way because l really liked her character. If Katniss and Peeta didn’t win, I’d either have wanted Rue, Foxface, or Clove to win instead.
Yeah Boggs shouldn’t have died
let’s appreciate how much effort he put into this video tho
He really is doing an amazing job
Great job, movieflame
I think Collins made a symbol of 'poetic justice' with Snows death, she left the reader to decide what happened to Snow, the same technique she used for Lucy Gray.
I could be wrong but I decided that Lucy didn't die. between the hanging tree song being passed down, to the way she is described in the book, something tells me that Lucy is apart of Katniss' lineage in some way
@@ariwilliams5263 I think Maude Ivory passed down The Hanging Tree, as it's said she remembers every song and would have replaced Lucy as a singer, plus I think in the book her description resembles the Everdeen lineage.
@@ariwilliams5263 I think I read somewhere that Suzanne Collins was asked about that and she confirmed Lucy gray Baird is katniss's paternal grandmother which means katniss's fathers mother was Lucy gray but I believe she changed her name to not be found out hell in the book Lucy talks about katniss and how it will keep someone from going hungry ,a known fact Lucy told 'corio' and fast forward 64 year's and when snow meets katniss everdeen and you can feel the uter hatred he has for her and her pin the golden mockingjay , I think deep down he knows she's Lucy's descent it's just not brought up in the books I think it's why he can't be fooled of peeta and katniss's star crossed lover's story because he has had to deal with someone who he actually truly loved and had to kill her because he thought she betrayed him, it's not until he sees her reaction to peeta hitting the force feild and his heart stopping that he truly believes that their love is real but at that point she is snows enemy and "it's the ones that we love the most that destroy us"
SHE DIED??? I HAVENT READ THE BOOK
@@prunejuicezzzit’s left open ended. maybe she died, maybe she didn’t
suicide is a strong word when i comes to mags it was more of a self sacrifice
Yea I agree
Agreed
In so glad someone finally included that Cato held Clove while she died
What when that happen?
@@nmoney6655 read the book it’s not in the movie for some dumb reason
@@Leaf30003 would've made it so much better 😢
@@Leaf30003 it’s because the actress who played Clove was fifteen, and the actor who played Cato was in his twenties, that’s also why they built up romance between Cato and Glimmer
@@hansikakapoor910I didn’t know that about Clove’s actress and why they didn’t include Cato holding her. In the books though Glimmer did flirt (unsuccessfully) with Cato a lot so it wasn’t something made up for the movie. The Clove and Cato closeness actually surprised me in the book because I felt like they wouldn’t have tried to get close because only one of them could win (before the surprise announcement). District 2 took the games extremely seriously and as an honor, so Cato actually mourning clove really surprised me based on all that
I think fox face killed herself because she knew everything about the berries and herbs. She probably did this so her family didn’t suffer and have to watch her be in pain.
Agreed, she was way to smart and strategic for it to be a mistake. She would have know that based on the tributes left, there was no way she would win. The berries were the quickest and safest way for her to die while also protecting her family. Props to her for making it look like an accident
That's what I wondered about too, she seemed smart enough to know when it looked like she would lose, maybe she just wanted to go out on her own terms and not in an extremely brutal way like she had seem some of the others go through.
@@Sp3c9000 yeah exactly
I actually don't think so. The scene in wich she showed her knowlege of wild plants was only in the movies, not in the books if I recall correctly. Additionally the berries are only naturally growing in the forests around District 12 and 13, so she didn't know Nightlocks from her childhood.
She was amongst the last five Tributes wich is an odd time to commit suicide as she had a pretty good chance of winning. There was plenty of opportunities for her killing herself before that, so why trying to survive by stealing food for so long? She died because Peeta outsmarted (or outstupided?) her. Not suicide.
And she also stole other food from Peeta's collected pile. If her intent was to die, she would not have bothered.
He missed when Enobaria ripped a tribute’s throat out with her teeth. It affected a tribute with a name because it said that Enobaria got her teeth sharpened specifically because of that.
im p sure he got every single tribute that died i just don’t think he alluded to the cause of death
Fun fact: in Katniss' two games she killed 3/4 of the district 1 tributes, the one district 1 tribute she didnt kill was Cashmere
yeah and even then she witnessed her death
She didn’t kill clove
@@sophiam642 clove was district 2, glimmer was the district 1 tribute in the 74th
She wasted no time killing both Marvel and Gloss after they attacked Rue and Wiress respectively
And Cashmere was killed by her alliance member
District 1s gotta be so pissed, back to back by the worst performing district
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cinna, prim, and finnick's deaths were by far the saddest. cinna knew what he was doing when he made the mockingjay wedding dress but katniss didn't or she would have stopped him. prim was the only person katniss was ever certain she loved. and finnick was so happy with annie and had been through so much it just wasn't fair. tbh rue's death wasn't as sad for me because katniss knew that she would have to die eventually. i expected it to come but cinna, finnick, and prim's deaths were so sudden and sad.
I cried when Prim died it was so sad
I agree. I’m actually re reading the trilogy now. Cinna’s death was just as upsetting as the first time I read it. I’m on Mockingjay and I’m dreading reading Finnick and Prim’s deaths again. Finnick was one of my favorite characters and I remember the very first time I read Prim’s death, I was shocked. I kept flipping back and forth to make sure I read it correctly.
It is strongly implied that Lyme died in the rebellion. She was a victor, but wasn't part of the "council" of victors that decided if there should be one final Hunger Game with Capitol children. She was probably killed by order of Coin, as any additional victor was a threat to her reign.
I firmly believe that Foxface knowingly committed suicide. She was way too intelligent to just take the word or action of Peta, who she knew didn't have too adequate survival skills.
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That doesn't make sense though, because the training scene was only in the movie. Most likely, she accidentally ate the berries since Nightlocks only grew around 12. Since there were many more opportunities for her to commit suicide before this and raise less suspicion. Since there were only 4 people left, a lot of the cameras would be on her. Why would she do this? There's a greater chance of her slipping up and having her family punished than if she just offed herself right away.
@@daphnebell8508 Haphne fan huh? Have you ever read the crack fic 'Ice Cream'?
Definitely not, there were many more ways to do this a lot earlier, such as the mine trap she carefully hopped through, or just collecting her own nightlock. She had been taking small bits of food and watching the other tributes throughout the games. She was clearly an opportunistic scavenger who made a bad call with the berries due to hunger. She was definitely clever and observant but highly intelligent is a stretch, in the books she is not mentioned at training. Katniss only mentions her own skill in edible plant training, which other tributes presumably noticed as Haymitch warns them. Foxface, seeing Katniss and Peeta finally being together towards the end of the games, most likely assumed that anything the two gathered must be safe since Katniss was knowledgable and would have checked their food. She was in 4th place and had a good chance at winning with her strategy, no way she would throw that away so late in the games.
I respect your opinion but I have to disagree
If movieflame stops uploading then a flame will burn out in my internet-based heart
Dude what
@@jdm2389 im joking (partly)
So I did the math. Twenty three people died in 73 of the 75 Games (24 tributes, one winner). For the 50th, 47 died (48 tributes and only Hamish survived), in the 74th 22 died (two winners) and in the 75th, 18 died (six survived). This means in total, 1766 people died over the course of the entire series just from the Games.
What's even more horrifying about it is the fact that almost all of these deaths (besides 75th) were the deaths of kids between the ages of 12-18.
Low-key Madge's death and Sejanus's death were quite sad. Sad no one's talking about it.
Ikr
It was Prim and Rue for me though
@Someone 333 Madge died when Snow fire bombed and destroyed District 12 at the end of Catching Fire. Only 900 out of 10000 people escaped to 13, and Madge wasn't one of them unfortunately.
@Someone 333 yeah she died in her house
Sejanus and Lucy Gray from the new book HURT. I spend so long reading it and caring about the characters and then my heart broke for them.
Imagine if he made an attack on titan version of this, "a tribute to 10,038,689 fallen characters"
He should do anime
I think he'll need to do more tributes then that 😉
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Having Crane eat the berries (we assume he eats them anyway) was a great addition to the movie.
I really wish that had been in the book too because it was a very powerful scene, the actor's facial expressions and mannerisms were excellent during that scene though, he pulled it off well.
The novels are in Katniss pov
She finds out about it at the ball
Wasn't it said in the movie Catching fire, that he decided to quit breathing (hence the reason Katnis makes a crane dummy hanging himself?)
@@AlexCubGaming yeah, I believe something to that effect was also said in the second book (it's been a while since I've read them so my memory is a bit fuzzy) but the scene of Crane being locked in the room to eat the berries wasn't in the books.
Though to be fair, the other commenter is correct in that it probably wasn't in the books due to it being written from Katniss' point of view and she didn't witness any of that, they were able to put it in the movie because the movies were able to show more outside of Katniss' view.
@@AlexCubGamingyes he hung himself because he didnt want to go with the berries. If I remember it correctly he did it because he didnt want to do it as Snow planned
Some may not of noticed the following:
Death 50 was the girl Haymitch was against. It was the 50th Hunger Games, and made Haymitch the winner
Death 75 was rue. Rue could have been the mockingjay. It also happened to be the 75th hunger games, that the rebellion begins.
For those who don’t notice, this video is truly poetic.
R.I.P. Prim
I was so surprised when Prim died. She was one of my favorite characters and I assumed she would make it through the series. But when she died right at the end... I reread that paragraph so many times because I couldn't accept that she had just died like that 😭
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43 deaths in just the ballads and song of snakes wow
I mean it was right after the end of a war
It says 44 deaths in 11:10 already.
movieflame has got to be one of the most underrated channels on youtube. been watching since 2016, and hope that one day you'll get millions of views again!
I still cry with rue and finnik
Mags death was just as sad
Same, but with Cinna too.
@@petra_uhrakova yeah
Boggs too…
I had never counted the deaths in the Hunger Games. That's a lot of effort.
Coins death I saw coming after she talked to Snow. And he reminded her how they promised never to lie to each other. And how coin sent Peeta even though he wanted to kill her at first. Snow was on death's door anyway.
I didn’t cry too much when Prim died, however, when Katniss threw cups at Buttercup, I loser it 😭😢
Same ;-;
For me I felt like the emotions were so bottled up until that moment so watching them all come out of Katniss brings them out of me too lol
I didn’t cry when finnick died but when I found out that him and Annie had a son 😭
@@rileypagano5253 Poor kid. Now he'll have no father.😭
In the books Katniss talks about Prim and stuff, like stories about her and her ability to heal people, but we barely know her. And after Katniss starts a whole rebellion stemming from her volunteering for Prim, Prim dies after all that and it's like
*the fuck was the point???*
Man, a lot of these deaths are brutal, but I kinda feel like Darius’ and Cato’s were the worst
agreed, especially Darius that is just awful. Messalla's was pretty bad too, and everyone who died from the lizard mutts
Yeah I feel like coral’s was pretty brutal too
Sejanus's was pretty bad to. His wasn't necessarily brutal but it was slow. Not only this but he also had to know that his "best friend" had just betrayed him for recognition. Honestly horrible. 😞
@@tamaramason9072 yes finnicks death was really cruel due to his whole life aswell I get upset everytime I think about his death
Literally everyone in the games died awfully first the random tributes being slaughtered by careers then glimmer stung by hundreds of bees and marvel taking an arrow to he heart and rue speared in the stomach clove getting her skull bashed fox face die poison berry and Cato ripped part and thresh die to Cato like my point is no one had a good way to go
I love how by talking about the deaths you’re actually explaining the whole story because every death is linked to a huge part of the story
A tribute **touches forgead and lifts three fingers** to all fallen characters. 😢
All of _our_ love and support for them.
*does Hunger Games whistle and lifts up three fingers*
i feel bad for all the tributes in catching fire. i can’t believe snow put them all back in there just to spite katniss
In mockingjay when the citizens of the capital all gather up, to find a new home, a lot of people died. The saddest for me was that little girl, whose mother died, And when Katniss saw her, she was crying over her mom's dead body. Even though we did not know her, It was still very sad.
Interesting trivia: In the 74th hunger games the boy from District 5 is the only unnamed tribute to have attained a known kill in the franchise.
I love how passionate and dedicated you are, love this video
Rue and Finnick’s death always makes me tear up.
Same, I know prims was sad but I don’t tear up
I still think Finnick's death was the most tragic and undeserving death in the entire series - I'm still upset about it... I would honestly love an expansion on Finnick's games and what his life after the games was like both as a mentor, what happened with his "lovers", meeting annie, seeing how he joined the rebellion etc. I feel like that would be really interesting - although I doubt that'll happen :(
Now that we're getting Haymitch's games, I wanna believe that Suzanne Collins will release books (or novels, at least) on stories with Finnick, Annie (Possibly even a one book, with dual POV on them would do the job) and Johanna. It's just an assumption, thought
When seeing the title of this video, I first wondered how so many people could have died. Then I remembered that the series is literally about children murdering each other
same-
And that technically isn’t all the deaths if you count every death from every hunger games and more
@@kendallgoodrich8405 if i did my math correctly (i probably didnt), then 1.7k~ people died in all of the 75 Hunger Games
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Foxface actually committed suicide, as she knew the berries were poisonous ( and literally was training in berries ).
There could of been a chance she did not commit suicide
@Rea Abrahamse it's unconfirmed as to whether or not it was a suicide, but i err on the side of it being true. It makes no sense for her to mess up so easily in her area of expertise. She didn't want to be in it anymore, but didn't want the Capitol/audience to KNOW she was bowing out because her family and friends would have suffered for it. So, she painted it to look like a suicide.
I don't think so. The scene in which she showed her knowlege was a movie scene, not book scene, if I recall correctly. The Nightlocks only grow naturally in the forests around District 12 and 13, so she didn't know them from childhood. She was among the last surviving Tributes and could have won by outsmarting them all. If you think that she didn't want to win (which is actually a fair assumption) there would have been lots of opportunities for her to kill herself without anyone raising an eybrow for it. But now as one of the last Survivors, all the cameras pointed at her, committing suicide would be less suspicious??? No, Peeta simply outsmarted (or better say outstupided) her by gathering berries that he thinks are edible and therefore making Foxface think the same tragically.
its not a known fact lmao
@@TheNerdyOrganist thing is nightlock are put in the arena quite often plus their really deadly so they would be on the plant thing, she may have committed suicide she may have not but either way she probably knew or either forgot or ate them on purpose, but either way she ate them and died
A few more confirmed deaths during the Dark Days you didn't mention: Lucy Gray's parents and siblings. Her father was shot, IIRC, and a Peacekeeper cracked her mother's head.
Why did they kill them?
Because
I'm imagining what the story would've been like if Prim and Rue were the protagonists.
Yeah it would’ve been different
It’s kind of weirdly poetic when you think about it the first death to the last one with all of the other ones in between but I guess that’s just the hunger games for you.
The first death is snows mum, the last one is snow, it is weirdly poetic
I enjoy Hunger games as books (I only own Mockingbird though as paperback) and the movies, saw them recently and they were perfect to me and have inspirated me much with my own writing ❤
I wonder if Snow ever heard the "Hanging tree" song and ever realized the song Lucy Grey wrote/sang was his downfall in the end.
Lucy Grey sang Hanging Tree to Snow as a coded message for them to meet at the hanging tree before they were going to run away together at the end of the prequel. He knew.
@@DisneyLuver97 yea but I think the OG comment was more referring to when Katniss sang the song for one of the propos, and when they aired Snow saw it and realised it was Lucy Greys song
Let’s have a moment of silence for these sad sad deaths
Prim
Rue
Cinna
Finnick
Boggs
And honestly Fox Face, I think she literally killed herself so her family didn’t have to watch her die from someone else killing her-
I don't know about Foxface killing herself, but still. She deserved better.
I'm not sure this counts but in the first Hunger games book rue mention a boy who had the mind of a 3 year old was killed by peacekeepers for playing with glasses
CINNA, RUE, FINNICK, PRIM, AND EVERY CHARACTER THAT WASN'T SNOW OR COIN DESERVED BETTER
AGREED 100%!
Fun fact, I personally think Seneca's crane's death was showed like that based in the ancient philosopher Seneca, who was ordered to commit suicide after trials
Can we just stop to think about and appreciate the time and patience this guy needs to make these videos.
I am truly amazed that nobody committed suicide to put themselves out of their misery rather than to save someone else, as I don't think it would be worth living in the Hunger Games universe.
There was more of that earlier on, but the capitol implemented a lot of protections to keep the tributes alive until the games.
Not gonna lie, the graphic for Titus startled me when it popped up 💀
There are only two characters in all of the hundreds of books I’ve read, who’s death made me put the book down and recover. Plenty plenty plenty of characters have made me sob my eyes out, but only two so far have I had to physically put the book down for a while before I could keep reading- one was from a Stephen King novel, and the other was Finnick O’Daire.
What if Lucy Gray actually did survive and escaped to District 13?
I always thought maybe it could be a head turner. Just imagine. Coin was lucy gray. I mean come on, in the movies voin was basically gray. I mean literally the color gray, gray uniform (not just for her), gray hair, gray building, gray everything.
@@theoutcastedchannel6212 Well, it could be, but it is unlikely. Coin is described as being "fifty or so", and Lucy Gray would be 81. But I think Lucy Gray could be Coin's mother. That would make it easier for Coin to become president since Lucy Gray would be well-known in district 13. And, I think, they are sort of similar in behavior.
@@ulyanabelyaeva4600 that makes more sense. Lol. Which district was lucy from?
@@theoutcastedchannel6212 she spent most of her live in 12 even after winning the games however her family originally were nomads/travellers who wandered around
@@theoutcastedchannel6212 and in the end she tried escaping into the woods - she might have stumbled upon 13 at some point
I remember reading the Sejanus death, it just break me. I had to stop reading for two days because it was just too much. Everything with that death was *TOO* much.
I was under the impression when I read the Hunger Games that they didn't use the bodies of the dead tributes for the mutt dogs. Instead they gave them all characteristics of each fallen tribute in order to torment Katniss, Peeta, and Kato.
In the books: Rue is laying on the ground, dying in front of Katniss
The movie: Casually pulls spear out of stomach while standing
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Most people say "Oh, poor Rue, she didn't deserve it, she's only 12..." but most people forget that the District 4 Male, Bravura, was also 12 - possibly younger than Rue was. I've taken quite a liking to Bravura, actually - I was expecting him to get to Day 3 or 4, but he unfortunately died in the Bloodbath when he was found by Cato and stabbed to death. He has a handsome appearance in the movies, too - played by Ethan Jamieson. I think people forget that while others are of more significance, random people we only heard about once's deaths are still sad and heartbreaking.
Edit - I got the name Bravura, and his age, 12, from Fandom. Bravura was originally his name in the old film script, and he was supposed to step off the pedestal too early and get his legs blown off. The age was on his tribute card, but I can't be certain he was younger than Rue - he just looks younger. So don't correct me!
Why do I enjoy morgan's upload schedule so much lol
Another theory for Foxface's death was she did it on purpose, so she wouldn't have to face Katniss, Peeta, Cato and Thresh and have a more slow, painful death.
Prim's goat, Lady, also died.
The goat died?
@@IzukuMidoriya38855 sadly, yes.
NOOOOO lady died :(
I always heard that Seneca Crane refused to take the Barry’s, and instead hung himself. Hence why Katniss did the dummy and hung him in catching fire
I love how the capitol is so rich and futuristic, but the PRESIDENT couldn’t have had an operation on his throat
i’m ngl but finnick’s death is the most sad. his death is the only one i cried over
Another video that I didn't know I needed but loved :)
We aren’t sure if foxface’s death was a accident or a suicide but considering foxface’s knowledge on plants it could be either
I think she knew she had no chance to survive and took the easy way out
So sad that ultimately Prim would lose her life and Katniss tried her best to protect her
I admire your dedication to this. Not only did you compile this list, you re read four whole books to make sure it was accurate. I've only watched a few of your videos but I'm going to subscribe now because this is the kind of person I want to watch.
Great Job on the Hunger Game videos you've done!!! I enjoy your commentary . Your voice is the icing on the cake. Soothing to listen to.
24:14 Katniss did not only end the current cycle of pain... she also prevented the next cycle from taking place.
She votes to continue it using capitol kids. Peeta votes against it
Rue, Cinna, Finnic, Primrose, Maggs, Boggs, and oddly, the girl who went TICK TOK!! Still touches me.
Something interesting I found with the prequel was that even though it was written from Snow's perspective and shared his thoughts, it was written in third person, not first. Does anyone know why Suzanna Collins may have done this?
Omg that’s interesting though I’m not sure!
The girl that was killed by her own ax did not die instantly as it took a long time for the cannon to be fired, meaning that she suffered.
I love how he’s basing it off of the books when he’s MovieFlame
The books do offer a lot more information, and the green book is not a movie yet.
@@sophiaenglish2754 So agree even with 4 movies there's still material that wasn't included in the movies they cut out. I was glad I read the books before seeing the movies.
Its sick how much work you use on this viedeos. Good job 👍
I just remember laughing at Snow’s death. Just because he was historically laughing when Katniss shot Coin instead. 😂
Haha why does Bobbin look like a 50-year-old alcoholic?? Lol
yeah the non-fanart choices are questionable lol
The dead tributes in the first book weren’t turned into wolf mutts. Katniss thinks about it in the third book, saying that the wolves had the tribute’s eyes which was specifically engineered to unhinge and freak out Katniss and the remaining tributes. The tribute’s bodies are supposed to be sent home to their families, which is stated a few times throughout the book.
The baby art at 1:39 made me cackle 💀
You’re breaking your own rule by not adding Haymitch’s mother brother father and girlfriend because those deaths affect him
How about a list of Percy Jackson/heroes of Olympus deaths? That would be awesome!
I haven't read the prequel but knowing that Tigress and Snow are cousins is just wow
Amazing video! I am a really big fan of hunger games, but this clears up some of the deaths. Thanks for all your hard work to explain everything!
Just wanna say that you are amazing at this! The quality & time / effort it takes to make these I can only imagine how time consuming it is but I can tell you love what you do, keep being amazing
Great video I love how you included the differences with the movies. You should rlly do a video essay on every hunger games movie, that would be interesting
I’m not sure if this was mentioned in the video, but there was a tribute that was mentioned in the first book that got themselves killed because they dropped something on the platform before the countdown started/ended. They got blown to bits. I’m pretty sure this was in between the Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes and the first book. As this never happened in the 74th+ hunger games. Which only means that it was in between the Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes and the first book.
I love your videos! They're so through and amazing. I watch them all day for my favorite books and movies
"he put pressure on his injured knee causing him to fall and snap his neck" Me: **hears something hit the side of the dryer making a popping noise at the perfect time**
Rue was the 2nd character I ever cried over in a book. My grandma who is an avid reader knew what was going on and came to comfort me. Even in the movies I still bawled over rue. Then Mags happened and it started all over again, this time my mom comforting me since she read them before me. Even in the movie I cried for her death. Then we have Finnick who honestly deserved so much more, book and movie are so sad and heart wrenching.
Is it sad i almost laughed with rue 💀
Same.