Two great speakers and thinkers engaged in a wonderful discussion who take the works of Spinoza and Leibniz and help us better understand. Totally enriching and entertaining. Applause!
@alifeofreason There is a Spinoza scholar (N Grossman) at my university--the University of Illinois at Chicago--who maintains that Spinoza was a panentheist. Spinoza did not think that the physical/mental universe was all that existed; God is more than this, as is evident from Spinoza's comments on the attributes of thought and extension. These are only two attributes, of which there are said to be infinitely many. So, I would have to agree and conclude a sort of naturalistic panentheism
Leibniz sounds like he was influenced by his own maths I think. These indivisible points of non-matter sound a bit like the infinitesimals his calculus relies upon.
With all due respect Anthony Quinton in his discussion of Spinoza misrepresents the character of Jewish prayer. The fundamental Jewish prayer 'Shmoneh Esreh' which is also called 'Tefilah' i.e. prayer contains as its central section petitionary prayer. This is not a late development and certainly one Spinoza would have understood.
thats assuming god is a visible entity. as said in this program, there is one substance but has unlimited facilities or attributes. to Spinoza the glass he cut would have been just as much of god, as everything els.
Sorry, Quinton doesn't understand Judaism. Of course, there's petitionary prayer. I'd like to hear someone sympathetic to Spinoza explain his philosophy rather than this cold fish who happens to have a position of authority.
Two great speakers and thinkers engaged in a wonderful discussion who take the works of Spinoza and Leibniz and help us better understand. Totally enriching and entertaining. Applause!
You were the first to upload this content. Thanks 10 years on. I watched you back in 2008, in a saner world.
The host was on fire here. I think he did a better job of explaining Leibniz's philosophy than Quinton did. Very clear and well spoken.
@alifeofreason There is a Spinoza scholar (N Grossman) at my university--the University of Illinois at Chicago--who maintains that Spinoza was a panentheist. Spinoza did not think that the physical/mental universe was all that existed; God is more than this, as is evident from Spinoza's comments on the attributes of thought and extension. These are only two attributes, of which there are said to be infinitely many. So, I would have to agree and conclude a sort of naturalistic panentheism
Thank you for your love.
These men make me love being a human.
I got that also. Glad youtube has people out there interested in more than Hannah Montana.
Yeah, Quinton does make several subtle jabs at Spinoza.
@FaaarLeft I'll adopt a third option and choose Søren Aabye Kierkegaard.
Leibniz sounds like he was influenced by his own maths I think. These indivisible points of non-matter sound a bit like the infinitesimals his calculus relies upon.
leibniz's monads are so similar to what in theravada buddhism is dharmas
With all due respect Anthony Quinton in his discussion of Spinoza misrepresents the character of Jewish prayer. The fundamental Jewish prayer 'Shmoneh Esreh' which is also called 'Tefilah' i.e. prayer contains as its central section petitionary prayer. This is not a late development and certainly one Spinoza would have understood.
thats assuming god is a visible entity. as said in this program, there is one substance but has unlimited facilities or attributes. to Spinoza the glass he cut would have been just as much of god, as everything els.
I love Leibniz :D
"no not at all" I watched that part like 10 times I don't know why lol
Sorry, Quinton doesn't understand Judaism. Of course, there's petitionary prayer. I'd like to hear someone sympathetic to Spinoza explain his philosophy rather than this cold fish who happens to have a position of authority.
damn, there was one vulgar cut there. I wanna see that cut
lolzzzz 8:08 - 8:10
jjbrewer1 that was my fav bit too