@@Gen_EricYT I think a game is considered dead when you can't find a server at any time of day, but group styled games and singleplayer games don't really "die" as unlike multiplayer, they can last pretty much forever.
@@muufle good point, I think if you’re playing with randoms then some of these games are definitely not in the best of shape. Any multiplayer game is fine as long as you have a group to play with and servers are up
it actually is crazy to think about the total stranglehold Among Us had over all of us back in 2020, but I think people were bound to lose interest at one point or another
im so glad you mentioned that i love phasmophobia, it still has a decent size but yeah it kinda died. They've at least updated the game a fair bit but yeah that one also gets a little repetitive eventually
Phasmaphobia be like “yeah we reworked the listening algorithm again, no it still only kind of works. Heres a halloween/thanksgiving/easter/christmas event instead.”
i think you did not mention the fact that lethal company is not out yet so comparing it to other games like this is unfair as i believe its likely that the replayability will be fixed by the time it leaves beta
I agree with you, lethal company is in much better shape than I made it out to be, it should be fine as long as the updates continue to be frequent and fun
Yeah you hit the nail on the head. Surface level gameplay is a fun divergence from the norm for a while. I want to mention how social games like among us have a harder time staying alive due to their long term audience issues. Since most of what fosters a community is popularity, and a more popular game brings in a large audience, that large audience includes some toxic people who drive the normal people out of the audience.
The fact that a game that isn't even out yet (Lethal) is considered a hype train is crazy to me. I am pretty sure there will be added tons of stuff that will grant replayability like other modes, especially since Zeekers has a lot more budget for his game. So yeah, Lethal isn't dead and I really don't think that it will be. Calling a game dead is a biiiiiiig overestimation
You’re right on that compared to all the other games it’s in much better shape, I think I over-exaggerated its decline, just cause the player count is much lower doesn’t mean it’s dead. Zeekers has also been really good with updates so it’s doing alright right now
Almost all of these games i play with my friends stilll and i agree with a lot of these points. I think something that you can add is extensive modding for lethal company as the base game with bigger company is fun but when i played with more maps and different layouts it wasn't fun. Maybe it's just me but enjoy vanilla lethal company with bigger company and more skins.
I think the reason why these viral multiplayer games fade out is when people realize that the best part of the multiplayer game is the multiplayer aspect. Who would of thought that hanging out with your friends makes literally any activity more fun. Most of these games have little substance or mechanical complexity and they just literally 'a thing' in the background as you banter with your friend group. These games are pretty mid when solo unless you're deranged and get to level 100 in Among Us.
Yeah for sure that was the theme I was going for with the games I chose, they're not bad games necessarily but there isn't a whole lot of replayability solo for most games.
I've heard that Fall Guys is coming to mobile at around the same time the Fortnite crossover is happening, on June 17th. Could it be the game's 2nd revival?
@@Gen_EricYT yep, and there's even more leaks of it now. Mobile screenshots, mobile loading screen, and it's thought to come on August 16, but the date is not confirmed yet
It wasn't meant to be clickbait, I just had a pretty bad take on lethal company and I underestimated how many people still play. And also yeah the constant updates have been great
Well put together video. However, I am curious about your opinion. Why does a game have to have a large and continuous playerbase to be consider "alive"? Why can't a game just be played for a period of time? There are many games that I would not play every day, again and again, but are still some of my favorites.
Appreciate it! I think I over-exaggerated some of these games demises, as long as you can reliably find a server to play on then the game is fine, but some of these games definitely don’t get talked about much anymore. Some of my favorite multiplayer games definitely fell off but they’re still fun to play.
This mf doesn't even mention public lobbies in Lethal Company (Private lobbies on your own OR with your friends aren't your only option) Also, not to defend Sony, but Helldivers 2 isn't delisted off of Steam ENTIRELY, just a lot of countries
Definitely should have mentioned the lobbies, definitely makes a big difference. Lethal Company definitely has a much smaller player base now but to call it dead is definitely a big stretch
They teach why in economics class so you don't have to watch a video why. Summary of what I'm talking about is that slow steady growth has a large stable foundation while a quick instant growth is just a very high slide that you're about trip down upon.
eh i dont really consider a game dead if i can find a group of people to play it with and have fun
that's a good point, as long as the game is fun it doesn't really matter how many people play as long as you can
@@Gen_EricYT I think a game is considered dead when you can't find a server at any time of day, but group styled games and singleplayer games don't really "die" as unlike multiplayer, they can last pretty much forever.
@@muufle good point, I think if you’re playing with randoms then some of these games are definitely not in the best of shape. Any multiplayer game is fine as long as you have a group to play with and servers are up
it actually is crazy to think about the total stranglehold Among Us had over all of us back in 2020, but I think people were bound to lose interest at one point or another
It only had a stranglehold over the biggest losers.
@@paytonestrada7746 spoken exactly like somebody with no friends to play it with
idk why but this comment feels like it was generated with chatgpt
@@paytonestrada7746 clearly you didnt play in a full lobby with friends that was peak
Phasmophobia is another game that had a lot of hype and publicity for a while, then just sort of lost it
im so glad you mentioned that i love phasmophobia, it still has a decent size but yeah it kinda died. They've at least updated the game a fair bit but yeah that one also gets a little repetitive eventually
Phasmaphobia be like “yeah we reworked the listening algorithm again, no it still only kind of works. Heres a halloween/thanksgiving/easter/christmas event instead.”
@@mashur4880 that’s true there’s a lot of bugs that just never get fixed. At least they’re trying to keep the game updated
i think you did not mention the fact that lethal company is not out yet so comparing it to other games like this is unfair as i believe its likely that the replayability will be fixed by the time it leaves beta
I agree with you, lethal company is in much better shape than I made it out to be, it should be fine as long as the updates continue to be frequent and fun
Yeah you hit the nail on the head. Surface level gameplay is a fun divergence from the norm for a while. I want to mention how social games like among us have a harder time staying alive due to their long term audience issues. Since most of what fosters a community is popularity, and a more popular game brings in a large audience, that large audience includes some toxic people who drive the normal people out of the audience.
I agree, bad communities, whether cringeworthy or just toxic also drive a lot of people away from the game.
The fact that a game that isn't even out yet (Lethal) is considered a hype train is crazy to me. I am pretty sure there will be added tons of stuff that will grant replayability like other modes, especially since Zeekers has a lot more budget for his game. So yeah, Lethal isn't dead and I really don't think that it will be.
Calling a game dead is a biiiiiiig overestimation
You’re right on that compared to all the other games it’s in much better shape, I think I over-exaggerated its decline, just cause the player count is much lower doesn’t mean it’s dead. Zeekers has also been really good with updates so it’s doing alright right now
Almost all of these games i play with my friends stilll and i agree with a lot of these points. I think something that you can add is extensive modding for lethal company as the base game with bigger company is fun but when i played with more maps and different layouts it wasn't fun. Maybe it's just me but enjoy vanilla lethal company with bigger company and more skins.
Modded lethal company can be really fun but definitely too much as well. The modding community definitely adds a lot to the game’s replayability
I think the reason why these viral multiplayer games fade out is when people realize that the best part of the multiplayer game is the multiplayer aspect. Who would of thought that hanging out with your friends makes literally any activity more fun. Most of these games have little substance or mechanical complexity and they just literally 'a thing' in the background as you banter with your friend group. These games are pretty mid when solo unless you're deranged and get to level 100 in Among Us.
Yeah for sure that was the theme I was going for with the games I chose, they're not bad games necessarily but there isn't a whole lot of replayability solo for most games.
this is an awesomesauce video! i really enjoyed watching it!!!!
Bazinga!
I've heard that Fall Guys is coming to mobile at around the same time the Fortnite crossover is happening, on June 17th.
Could it be the game's 2nd revival?
late reply but wait its coming to mobile?
@@Gen_EricYT yep, and there's even more leaks of it now. Mobile screenshots, mobile loading screen, and it's thought to come on August 16, but the date is not confirmed yet
Lol what? I still see tons of lethal company vods, and the game is still being updated. Clickbait much? Sadge
It wasn't meant to be clickbait, I just had a pretty bad take on lethal company and I underestimated how many people still play. And also yeah the constant updates have been great
i haven't heard about Who's Your Daddy in just a year, because that's when Alpharad Gold played it.
I should watch that video thanks for reminding me
2.5k views and 70 likes… ouch
Well put together video. However, I am curious about your opinion. Why does a game have to have a large and continuous playerbase to be consider "alive"? Why can't a game just be played for a period of time? There are many games that I would not play every day, again and again, but are still some of my favorites.
Appreciate it! I think I over-exaggerated some of these games demises, as long as you can reliably find a server to play on then the game is fine, but some of these games definitely don’t get talked about much anymore. Some of my favorite multiplayer games definitely fell off but they’re still fun to play.
"this is when I was still using my garbage mic" --sounds exactly as bad (I think your mics are fine, it's sound isolation).
I’m gonna try and get a better setup for my mic so there’s less background noise, it’ll be harder to pull of for gameplay parts though
This will be a banger 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Eric it is coming I know what you did
cant wait for the ultimate eric exposing and doxxing video
@@Gen_EricYT that will be w
This mf doesn't even mention public lobbies in Lethal Company (Private lobbies on your own OR with your friends aren't your only option)
Also, not to defend Sony, but Helldivers 2 isn't delisted off of Steam ENTIRELY, just a lot of countries
Definitely should have mentioned the lobbies, definitely makes a big difference. Lethal Company definitely has a much smaller player base now but to call it dead is definitely a big stretch
@@Gen_EricYT Yeah it's not even close to dead, 15k monthly average is still very much alive for an indie title
@@GunMan12358 for sure I think I judged too hard based on the fact it used to be hundreds of thousands at its peak, still great numbers
The moment where someone uses Discord to vote you off the ship in Among Us just adds to the list of reasons the game died lol
Discord is great for among us only if you don’t snitch
They teach why in economics class so you don't have to watch a video why. Summary of what I'm talking about is that slow steady growth has a large stable foundation while a quick instant growth is just a very high slide that you're about trip down upon.
for sure it's a lot harder to maintain sudden success compared to slow and organic growth