I always thought the Hidden Cloud was always kinda nuts. Konoha has so many powerful kekkei genkai that it always felt like cheating, but the Cloud has lightning release, which is ridiculously powerful in the hands of somebody who knows how to use it. I mean, the 3rd Raikage was able to, with just lightining release, create an impenetrable shield, create an unstoppable attack, and move at ridiculous speeds. I know that he's the pinnacle of lightning release, but that's still insane for a base elemental chakra nature.
You forgot that they're the only people that can fight tailed beasts just with their fists, can break susano with their fist. B was the first person to technically kill Sasuke, multiple times during the same fight. They also got one of the seven Swordsmen of the Mist sword to change Alliance mid-fight. The first to have a perfect jinchuriki in their Village. The only Village to have people survived the Amaterasu black flames.
Can we talk about how they have a better Jinchuuriki system? I mean they only made B a Jinchuuriki, after A considered him his brother. Every other village "let treat these kids like trash". They did this but at least gave B a group of people he could rely on.
@@DefinitelyNotHidan we have no lore on Yugito, the OP is still incorrect though, of the 5 cannon times weve seen jinchuriki in their home village, only Gaara was treated poorly intentionally, Narutos mistreatment was not the norm for konoha (Mito and Kushine were married to Hokages) he would likely have had a better time if Danzo didnt intentionally polarize the village against him by leaking that he was the 9 tails right after the attack. That leave only Yagura (who we saw kisames flashbacks) who was the 4th Mizukage, you can make an arguement for Ginkaku and Kinkaku, but arent really jinchuriki. The idea that every other country mistreated their WALKING NUKES, is based on either nothing, or some terrible shippuden filler I havent watched.
@@tickledeggz there is a little lore on yugito from what the data books say about her she was a kunoichi everyone looked up to including B himself when she was taken by hidan and kakazu the cloud raided every akatsuki hideout they could find till but didn't find her in time.
One thing. The 2 tail jinchuriki, Yugito Nii, spent most of her childhood learning how to control Mitatabi. She was able to control him to the point of being able to give a paw print for a beastiary. She knew full well how to use him and his abilities. My guess is she underestimated Hidan's abilities and didn't use her jin cloak.
@@NCHammer23 Also typically when an enemy get smacked around by a tailed beast they aren't a danger, i think she was surprised by his immortality which is really one of Hidan's biggest ace which lead to her letting him get her blood.
@@NCHammer23 It's also very easy to get over confident against someone who allows themselves to be hit. His whole game is built on someone's over confidence.
I have a feeling Yugito died since she thought she killed Hidan, but since Hidan is immortal she powered down...leaving herself open and Hidan slashed her just enough to get her blood. When Yugito got ready for round two Hidan did his ritual and then stabbed himself...thus transferring the damage to Yugito.
@@chikipichi5280 Hidan was the one who killed her. While she is hanging, you can see the killing blow in her chest, and when the scene pans out, Hidan is pulling the spike out of his chest
To further know the hidden clouds Village's defense, them being so high would mean less air. Aside from making it difficult to breathe for anyone who isn't a native, I imagine fire and wind Jitsu wouldn't be effective. However lightning will have an advantage because there's less wind resistance. It might be why that's their focus.
Land of lightning is surrounded by water and clouds are also water. This means their jutsu are powered up and more effective in those areas. So all of they're main opponents would have a chakra nature nerf while they had a buff. Ie (water, wind, & lighting) So even if they were 2nd. They would be 1st with a home field advantage.🙌🏾⚡🌩
Winds are typically stronger high up in mountains. I would assume wind style jutsu is more effective. Fires also catch and burn faster at high elevations. They only start more commonly at lower elevations due to higher biomass but wildfires travel upwards. There’s also a whole country who’s gimmick is to move mountains and earth.
not here to argue or anyting but didn't Naruto use a Rasin shuriken while in space on the moon so I'm not sure the higher up altitude would matter with the Jutsu
I always thought the Raikage line had one of the best abilities on the show. They amp their abilities by utilizing lighting technique. Boost their speed, power, defense and agility. All that with zero setbacks. Zero🤯
Which makes you wonder what would have happened had Kushina gotten taken, Kurama transferred to another Shinobi with Lightning Release and that Shinobi being able to control Kurama like Bee can his beast.
@@100navat Well, if Hidden cloud can get Kurama at their disposal, it's possible their nation will grow stronger much earlier before Naruto have a time to growth. Without Kurama inside naruto its also mean he can be more weaker, not because he really need Kurama to become strong, but because his will to be very powerful can possibility would be more lacking because without Kurama he would just get a normal childhood without anyone resentment, even when he gets really strong later, it could be possible he will stuck in Jiraiya level in most of his life (can be slightly stronger because his Uzumaki bloodline to get enormous chakra but maybe not by far) until he meets Hagoromo to give him yin and yang release and a six of paths ability to boost his power level more into finally become a god-tier level. But also if Kushina did get taken by cloud it's mean bye-bye for Naruto existence from the start.
The setback is you need insane amount of chakra to back it up, that's why the 3rd and 4th Raikage are like the only other really good lighting users besides kakashi and sasuke.
When a tailed beast gets loose. The rest of the villages: Uses highly complex, and sophisticated sealing techniques. The Cloud Village: Just punch it until stops moving.
I wonder how many they lose doing that though. The reason the other villages use sealing is to minimize the loss of life. Cloud Village seems like they are ok with losing dozens if not more of their own men in that fight.
@@TheLastSane1 I guess, it's because the hidden cloud Ninjas are on an average stronger, taller, more gaint than the other village people. So I think they can tank some hits from a tailed beast and still have better chances of survival. Who knows? Anyway it's just my guess.
Regarding the overall military might differences between Hidden Cloud and Hidden Leaf... Hidden Leaf doesn't need to focus as heavily on adding to their military might, as they are usually the home of the two people who can kill everyone by themselves if they felt like it. So the Hidden Cloud has a strong incentive to try closing that gap with as many strong shinobi as they possibly can... Especially since they have a strong urge to fuck around during peacetime.
As a long time Naruto fan, and a brown skinned person I’ve always loved the Hidden Cloud. I think they don’t get enough credit for how truly powerful they are.
I know what you're talking about. Not enough brown/black folk in anime/Manga but when they are, we get people like Tosen Kaname and Yuroichi and the Raikages and Darui
Agree! Some other OP black/brown characters Tousen (even tho it doesn't seem like it lol), Yoruichi-san, Chocolove/Joco McDonell (strongest furyoki level), and Huey Freeman (😉).
It's not that it's just it's a show that literally follows Naruto and his dream to become the leader of his village. If the show was about A than we would see more of the cloud village.
Yugito’s capture was one fight I really wish they would show in its entirety. She set a trap for Hidan and Kakuzu but still lost. I think their unique abilities make them too difficult to defeat with no intel on the first encounter. Case in point, Asuma’s death.
Yep. No one would expect someone to be immortal, much less a team of immortal beings. I can say kakazu didnt fight cause his clothing was clean and he wasnt sweating. So hiden killed her by himself so she mustve been caught up offfuard by his immortality
When you rewatch these fights between top tiers, the urge always very short, and very underwhelming. I rewatched Itachi vs Yagura, and all Itachi did was some basic ass fireball jutsu, and amaterasu when that didn't work. And Yagura was lame. Legit all he did was jinchuriki cloak, and beast bomb. And this scared Itachi away, AND killed Itachi's fellow Akatsuki who was a Seven Swordsman of the Mist.
The two-tails jinchuriki did not lose because she was a jinchuriki; she lost because Hidan was a literally unkillable religious nut. With the emphasis on the "unkillable" part. Seriously, Asuma _cut Hidan's head off_ and the freak _still_ wouldn't shut up! Kind of hard to kill someone who refuses to stay dead even when you decapitate him...
The connection of Minato's bloodline runs deep with the Cloud Village. He spoiled there kidnapping attempt of Kushina. The reason Naruto was born. And Naruto married Hinata, in which the Cloud Village also attempted to kidnap. He encountered them in a mission. Minato probably wanted to learn the Flying Thunder God to counter or keep up, as he sees the Cloud Village ninjas as a threat. And what if Tobirama's creating the Flying Thunder God as not only a counter for the Uchiha but was also aware of the Lightning based ability from another land that requires a counter or keep up with speed. Then again Tobirama is just the Greatest Kage Of All Time.
I kinda think we're referring to Kage as a political leader and military leader in which case I think Tobirama is definitely more tactical than most other Kage. Like actual leadership
I agree especially the geography of land of lightning.Living with the clouds is like living in heaven hahahaha and also land of lightning have a lot pf beautiful coastal beaches perfect for Vacation.
Hidden Cloud is basically smart. They're able to basically be aware of anything culturally with other nations because of trade (whereas other villages had to deal with the smaller ones.) They didn't treat their Jinchuuriku like spawns of satan and basically trained them. They know when to retreat. Etc. Hidden Leaf advantage is pretty much super OP ninjas and population. Even their deflectors are wild. Population is key here cause as far as we know the gold and silver brothers were the only real rebel. But as you noted they were still kept discreetly under their umbrella.
The Jinchurikis of the cloud village were also treated badly, like in all the other villages, which is why only Bee managed to control the Bijuu. The differentiating factor was never the cloud village's methodology to control the Bijuu, but Bee, he made the difference, he was the one who found a way to dominate the Bijuu, basically befriending the beast, that was the trick, but They were never going to achieve it by force and that was what the cloud village and all the other villages wanted.
I always felt like Kishimoto wanted to portray the Hidden Cloud as pretty comparable to Konoha from the time characters from there started to be properly introduced. I think it was a good decision tbh. If Konoha was clearly the strongest village, the fourth shinobi world war would have been a lot less interesting
Cloud was never even close to the Leaf village. Cloud's head ninja was one shot by Hinata's dad. They kept trying to obtain the Byakugan because they kept getting fodderized by Hyuugas. The Raikage was killed by 10 k fodders meanwhile Sasuke defeated over a thousand shinobi while not killing them, and not even having a scratch. The Fraud village.
2:46 there was that whole arc with the boat shrooms on the way to the turtle island. This however solidifies that the oceans around Kumogakure are hard to navigate.
Preciate you talking about our Raikages!✊🏾 And yes, that's a huge peice of revenue not being tapped into! I do wish they went into more detail with the 🌩️ village!
Just realized that Naruto could have canon movies talking about different Ninja wars. That would be great, I have heard the memes about having a Minato anime instead of Boruto but, hey, If they can make long movies or find ways to talk about those wars in Boruto...
@@najahshikamaru620 true but a lot of the time people are more interested in the journey of the character than the result of their journey and even if we know hoe minato dies we don't know who aside from certain characters close to him die or what he went through before becoming hokage.
I agree that's my biggest dream in Naruto to have a movie or long episode dictating and showing the 3 great wars that's so very cool imagine so many cools fights and story.I would rather watch the Great war in Naruto than watch the entire the Boruto series.Boruto is a boring show who only have a brat spoiled child .
I love that the hidden cloud has figured out how to use lightning release to enhance speed, defense, cutting edge, even give it sentient will, etc. but the concept of a Chidori, essentially an electrified punch, is just beyond them.
Chidori is a falcon punch/spear it requires a different style of lighting release. I agree tho hidden cloud didn't rely on weird eyes or broken reincarnation cycles
I've always thought of the hidden cloud as the second strongest or tied with Konoha but I've never thought of it to be stronger, and I'm interested and ready to be proven wrong
@@The_Paddle_Smith I don’t know per say if they climbed up because the leaf still had hyuga, uchiha, sarutobi and other clans that are very threatening to say the least that keeps the leaf out of any big threats🤔🤔
Great video man I always thought the Cloud was stronger fundamentally . Maybe due to their constant need to stay ahead of the game ? Over the years I've come to the conclusion each Village on home turf though is just as Strong as the other. Konoha; Every Shinobi you meet has some sort of Hidden Jutsu or a Kekkei Genkai . How the fuck do you prepare for that ? The second you're near their village you have multiple clans throwing random Jutsu out their ass. The Hidden Rock; had the Dust Element which I can only imagine , applied properly could keep a village away from wanting to attack Iwa right at their door step . Hidden Sand; An army could die just trying to find it in their desert , and then to top it all off the second you find it , Shukaku is deployed to destroy opposing forces. Hidden Mist; tactical advantage as A LOT of water Jutsu would take down anything invading their shorelines . They're very closed in and the Mist under the 2nd Mizukage probably had all sorts of Genjutsu Barriers built into it . And of course all the points you just mentioned about the Cloud and their terrain .
Tobirama might be underrated imo. He invented jutsu left and right and he one shot Izuna, a confirmed mangekyou user and brother to Madara, and who was also overpowered Tobirama's advanced water style with fire style. And he was almost as fast as Minato who was likely the fastest ninja of all time. Tobirama was a beast. If I'm not mistaken he took the Gold and silver bros down with him. So... I sort of put him just slightly above Minato tbh.
Always thought the Hidden Cloud had some of the coolest features of the ninja villages! The history of them being just muscle in the face of Konoha and the other villages is just awesome
I feel like most anime struggle with powerful female characters. Temari probably being the best represented in Naruto. Erza in anime in general. A top 10 kunoichi video would be pretty cool.
"Kishimoto couldn't write a strong woman if Nobara punched him in the face." Probably not, but that made me take a minute to appreciate the *wonderful* character that is Nobara
@@karthiknarayanan3705 I'm going to pretend i didn't just read possible spoilers. 🙃 I'm an anime only watcher, please don't spoil anything. Deleting the comment would also be nice to reduce the chances of other people getting it spoiled. Or at least put "SPOILERS AHEAD" at the beginning of the comment.
Konoha: "We have wireless headsets, tv's, vcr's and even security cameras all the way back in chuunin exams og naruto." Also Konoha: "How do cross water?"
Hidden cloud is more stable. The problem with Konoha is that most of the damage that is done in Konoha is done by shinobis of Konoha such as Madara, Obito, Danzo, Orochimaru. Konoha is ruled by idiots and they create problems. They are the strongest because of crazy powerful ninjas but not stable and as a result, their powers are all over the place. Also, one other big weakness is that they are in the center and is an easier target for everyone. This is the opposite of Hidden Cloud, where they are extremely stable and loyal and strengthens themselves gradually. Also, they have 2nd strongest group of ninjas after Konoha. Honestly aside from 2nd Hokage, there have been like no good Hokage. Maybe Kakashi was a great Hokage but he retired so do not know what happened during that time.
@@ManiVortex3965 Not really, he was the best. He created the anbu corps and the ninja school system. He developed the village and made everything into a system. Others fucked up later that was the problem. 1st and 3rd hokages were idiots. 4th hokage did not have much time as a ruler. Tsunade was good but had to work hard to deal with previous problems and how Kakashi was don't know.
@@faruquekhan3353 Really makes you wonder what kind of hokage Minato would have been had he'd lived more than a year or so. How would he had dealt with the politics of the hyuuga's and Uchiha's any differently than how Hiruzen could do and without the elders getting in his way? Sure, he was a genius in terms of jutsu being able to create a brand new one just by watching a tailed beast bomb and making the rasengan, fluent in sealing jutsu thanks to connections with his wife and of course the flying raijin (which then later got retconned to be Tobirama's). But that doesn't tell much about how he'd do so politically. He most definitely wouldn't had let Orochimaru get away since I think Orochimaru left a little after the nine tails attack? It's quite interesting but again Its hard to say, he obviously wasn't hesitant on killing thanks to his experience in war but he wasn't cold hearted either.
@@faruquekhan3353 bro no matter what he created he created the bigger problems that ultimately caused konoha to always have internal turmoil...if not for his bias towards a particular clan the leaf doesn't have half the problems it did
@@qualiswilliams7403 It wasn't him. At that moment he had valid concerns for the Uchiha clan so he was wary of them but he still respected them and gave them power and prestige. He gave them the Konoha police force which was to both watch them but at the same time give the Uchiha clan a lot of prestige. In addition, in his team, there was an Uchiha clan member. He was a founder and had concerns for Uchiha but then he died and the 3rd Hokage messed it all up. 2nd Hokage built a good system for Konoha but it was up to the successors to improve Konoha. Honestly, 3rd Hokage was just so bad.
I feel like the hidden cloud would be stronger if it weren't for Konoha just getting a ranomd prodigy child who can take on armiesand nations by themselves, aka naruto or sasuke now, minato, itachi, hashirama, sarutobi, like Konohas army isnt that strong since base part 1 kabuto can easily beat like 6 anbu ninja.
@@SquidSqui wrong, they are the strongest ninja that konoha has, as you seen they were called to fight during pains invasion and had some pretty good feats and did better than almost all of the jonin, excluding some special jonin like kakashi, but they are meant for all things ninja wise even direct combat, the only reason they are used for assassination more is because danzo is the head and doesnt want the anbu powers leaked
@@konncord Incorrect. The Anbu work directly for the Hokage, not Donzo. The Root works for Donzo. The only thing they did in the Pain fight was protect Tsunade, as the other thing besides assassinations, that they do, is gaurd the Hokage. NCHammer even has a video that explains this.
Oh and the Stats were just after Konoha was destroyed by Pain, basically when Konoha wasn't at its strongest and all its infrastructure was destroyed. Before that you could easily argue Konoha was on par, if not stronger than Kumogakure due to its massive population which would have translated into a huge military and prosperous economy.
Even before Pain Konoha had to deal with nearly losing the 3rd Shinobi War, Kyubi Incident as well as Konoha Crush. Konoha was no where near as prosperous as it was during the First and Second Hokage Era. Konoha was basically destabilized and just barely getting their shit back together. In comparison Kumogakure was only a participant in the 1 and 3rd War and was technologically stronger than Konoha meaning they've been ahead for quite some time and was always more prosperous.
@@rizefamilz2563 Nearly losing the 3rd shinobi war because they were up against the rock, cloud and the mist yet konaha handled them single handedly.
@@rizefamilz2563 Well no, Konoha didn't nearly lose the 3rd Shinobi war world, they signed an armistice not a surrender. The reason why there was so much political pressure on Hiruzen to end the war, was because fighting a 3v1 war from 3 different sides was very much economically and demographically really costly and people wanted out of it. Konoha essentially stalemated 3 villages, 2 of which were the next 2 strongest villages after Konoha. However I would agree with some points there, the Kyubi incident really hurt Konoha, not only killing off a portion of the population, it also took out the guy who kept the stalemate from the 3rd shinobi world war by himself (Minato). The Uchiha massacre took out some of the strongest people in the village, (Shishui, Fugaku and Itachi leaving) and a good portion of the population most of which were very talented shinobi and then Konoha Crush came around after which not only did Konoha lose more of it's population, they also lost the last remaining Uchiha, who defected, and their jinchuriki going off on an adventure outside of the village with one of the 2 remaining Sannin. The 3 years between Sasuke retrieval and Shippuden should have been the worst years for Konoha both economically and military since the village was founded.....
@@abdurrahmanqureshi3030 The uchiha were hired to force them out, they were paid to do it. I don't remember the details but after a woman in the clan married the lord of the land and he died they were blamed for it, that was why the Uchiha was dragged into it to chase them out. If the Cloud hadn't wanted to lose them the Uchiha wouldn't have been able to do it, at least not like they did. You could take any other village and say they were sent to chase out the Hyuga or Uchiha, the leaf wouldn't have just ignored it like the cloud did.
If you really want to look into it, Kumo as we are introduced to it, is run by a big loud muscled black man wearing gold bracelets and cornrows, with a brother that's a rapper. If that's not the epitome of stereotype, I don't really know what is. I can understand why a predominantly Japanese art form doesn't have a lot of black people in it, so the representation in anime doesn't really matter as much to me. That said, if there was a spinoff which focused on the history and founding of Kumo, I'd be game to watch/read it, given that they have such a heavy focus on kenjutsu and taijutsu.
@Acechemicals22 It's running on the stereotype that black people are naturally strong and therefore vetter at athletics. Even though this is more of a "positive" stereotype and kishimoto dismantled it somewhat by showing different personalities types other than killer bee rapping.
I’d like to remind you that Kakazu tanked her, the two tails, tailed beast bombs. So I’d argue that Hidan didn’t really do much when you consider how much more powerful Kakazu is.
Strong raikage, 2 tailed beasts, and the gold and silver Brothers. At one point all these were in the village and I can see how they could take on konoha. If they all worked together.
Ngl I feel like Kishimoto messed up writing the hidden cloud. A lot of the things you mention in this video just break the balancing in the rest of the Naruto world. I mean Hashirama, the god of shinobi, a reincarnation of Ashura, a man who could level mountains with ease died after fighting for 24hrs straight but the 3rd raikage fought an onslaught for 72hrs straight etc. Then on top of that things like the gold and silver brothers being the only ones who we know was directly descended from the sage of six paths even tho they don’t seem to have inherited any genetic traits aside from having a lot of chakra just don’t seem to fit
The 3rd Rai's feat is extremely underrated and overlooked imo but let's clarify that Hashirama was fighting Madara when he died. Madara alone is likely stronger than the forces that the 3rd was tearing through so judging from battle time in this context isn't such a good idea for power accuracy. Though true, the Hidden Cloud had the 3rd Raikage, Ay, Killer Bee and 8 Tails, Kin/Gin; esc so yes they were op. Most of the strong shinobi in Konoha were kicked out or dead by the time the Cloud came into prominence though. Konoha wasn't in good form. The top fighters in Konoha at the time was Minato (no Kyubi half), the Sannin, Hiruzen, and the wild Kyubi. I think that's comparable to the Cloud if nothing else though.
@@justsomeguywithahotpinkmus9746 Madara was extremely powerful but he was already playing dead and had gone into hiding by the time the 1st shinobi world war started during which Hashirama died
@@justsomeguywithahotpinkmus9746 hashirama wasnt fighting madara when he died? Madara was thought to be dead at the valley of the end. Madara would have already been on his life support tree thing 😂
@@austinroark639 madara faked his death with izanagi, awakened the Rinnegan after biting off some of hashirama’s flesh or something… then connected his body to the gedo statue so he could extend his life
I wasn't sure if you knew more about Naruto than Kishimoto himself, good thing you always start out every video giving yourself props and telling us youre the expert and the rest of us dont know shit. Self love is important. You're doing important work. In all seriousness though I watch because you're great at explaining things even if we already know everything you're going to talk about (not always the case of course), I even enjoy the head canon. I'll take your self pump up all day if it means I don't have to hear Seth and Swag do their Bevis and Butthead impression.
@@garythompson1345 exactly, I will happily watch more of this goofy golden retriever in human form even if he says "Notee Bell" which is the most annoying thing I've ever heard, because damn does he ever do a great break down.
*You said in this video that Hashirama and the 3rd Raikage were the only ones that captured a tail beast by themselves. But in a different video you say the first Kazekage also captured a tail beast by himself (Shukaku)*
True. You can add him, but how they did it is different. He has a direct counter to shukaku, and hashirama is quite literally born with a kekkei genkkai that seals things. Those to are powerful but they not only a type advantage but their abilities come with the power to seal their respective tailed beast(or all of them in hashiramas case) the raikage just beat theirs into submission and have them sealed afterwards.
leaf has the strongest individuals. The cloud has more ninja that are mid high tier. Like if you took a random cloud and fire ninja out of a crowd 6/8 times the cloud would win.
also the cloud village has those big ol breasticals. all their woman are stacked. That blond chick that always says chill? jesus son. What a woman. brickhouse if i ever saw one. Choji should have got with that amazon.
Actually in terms of individual power, the average Konoha ninja is much stronger, considering their specialty abilities and clan heritage. The Sand would also have better shinobi considering they specifically focus on quality over quantity.
@@abdurrahmanqureshi3030 The sand are weaker than both cloud and leaf lol The average sand ninja stands zero chance against a average cloud or leaf ninja.
@@LoopyDreamz775 did you even watch the show ? Baki low diffed Hayate and Gaara was beating every leaf ninja before naruto showed up. The sand siblings had to save the sasuke rescue team against sound ninja who were much stronger than Konoha jonin. You clearly have no idea what your talking about and only know about the show through Boruto. The head ninja of the cloud village got one shot by hinata’s uncle , the cloud has always been fodder and trash ever since part 1. I would argue even sound ninjas are stronger than the cloud
Recently found your channel and got to say man I love it. I especially loved your video about adult Sakura. However, not only are you enjoyable to watch because of how you break things down, there has been several times where you flat out made me laugh in a good way. subbed and cant wait to see more of your videos.
Can we talk about how the heavenly transfer technique...is like the actual ULTIMATE assassination technique? You are just sitting at your desk like "Huh thats an active volcano right there outside my window.....and now the hokage is inside that active volcano, woopsie im such a scorpio."
@@tadijavpserbian9808 was talking about where they put their hq not which village would be in charge of the allied shinobi forces. even if the leaf was put in charge they would not have put their hq in the leaf because the leaf was far from fortified after pains attack.
Bro i cant believe you are almost at 200k. I remember like 4 months ago or something when you were at like 30k. Wow i haven't even looked at your subscriber count in a while. The first video i saw you make was the minato being tsunades son or the hisashi hyuga creating the otsutsuki. I had just gotten into naruto lore. I grew up on the series but nothing is like swagkage, seth the programmer, and you explaining naruto. It is so amazing and i cant wait until you get up there with them with recognition because dude you deserve all the credit and praise you get for these videos. They are so well edited imo and you do a great job of explaining stuff. Some people say its not 100% canon but i dont care you make it part of MY naruto lore and i love it and thats what matter to me. So thank you for making these videos nick and keep up the great work. Edit: i checked those videos were posted 7 months ago.
Kishimoto is sitting on a gold mine. One of the key areas he failed in Naruto. Was world building and character development. Narutos world feels vast. We've been told of so many other places. But very few have been built upon. He could have done so much more not only for the side characters but for the other nations as well
@@NCHammer23 One of the series I love The scientific railgun Or magical index. It is a series with three spinoff of the three main characters And the development was incredible I think Naruto as a series would have benefited. They could have had a Sasuke spinoff for instance with his training with orochimaru. So while Naruto is doing his thing they have a side series showing Sasuke. The plot of Naruto was far to fast paced in shippuden. They never really developed the other jinchurriki Or the clans. I mean with all the clans in Naruto specifically in leaf how did places like cloud hold up. It's hard to belive the d books about the cloud when we don't see it. Same as people believe neji is useless at range. But he has a 4 in ninjutsu and 3 elements. But we don't see this.
@@NCHammer23 it has its own turtle island like in aviator that moves and allows interesting creatures to live on it in order to allow their tailed beast to train. I’m not sure if you mentioned that because maybe I over heard that part🤷🏼♂️ but that’s the same island that naruto used a boat to travel to lol before boruto
Nah bro simply threw hands with the 8 tails and got it to pipe down, an fought an entire army only to loose his life cause bro needed a power nap, I need a full light novel on the 3rd Raikage expeditiously
The probably reason hidden cloud don't have any betrayal is the leader is not worried somebody with try to take his position if you have strength come and take it
this is a bit of a head canon, but I think Kumo has a reputation for stealing Kekkei-Genkai from other ninja-villages, like when they tried to steal the Byakugan from Hinata or Kushina for her Uzumaki chakra; that would also explain why there are shinobi like Daodai (the rubber lava release guy) & Toroi of the Magnet release in Kumo who have Kekkei-Genkai not commonly associated with the Land of Lightning
About the lava stil: That kg is the most spreaded Kekkei genkai in naruto. Whe have it in Kiri by mei. Whe have it in the cloud. Than was one of the original Akatsuki member a lava stil user. A enemy in the sasuke novel used it. And, whe hav Kurotsuchi, who has it. The source of it must be spreaded over the country at some point (i wonder, why the kg should be focused so strong in some regions, in the turn of the ages, it should be logical, that it has spreaded a cross the lands to). Or, elemental kg are mutations that can come spontanoeus. And is based on, wich elements you has learned. At last gave Mei the impression, that that is the case. She sayed, that she can use 3 natures. And, that allowed her, to use 2 kekkei Genkai. That give the impression that families with element kg can create randomly element kg, based on the base elements, thay learned (probally with affinitys to certain elements, what make some kg more common by them). To the other hand, is there Kurotsuchi. Who has, like Mei, fire, earth and water. But, it looks like, that she has only the lava stil kg, to create cement (that she use in combi with her water). From Mei`s words, she should have the boil release to. Because, both have the same base. So, it didnt must mean, that the kumo has a focus, on stealing kekkei genkai. Or, that would be something, each villiage would probally to (capture someone who has a rare ability, take him to your villiage and force him to create offspring to make the villiage stronger in the future).
It wouldn't matter where they built their village and their defenses would be useless if the leaf kept the 8 tailed beasts. And possibly take the first tails from the sand village. And treated them as equals and properly trained and matched them with humans.
Starting a war with two nations both with a tailed beast that can possibly team up together increasing thier military might is not a good idea and on top of that if the leaf kept the 8 tails they can't control the 9 or 8 tails so them having it means nothing.
@@harmonwatson7511 The guy got killed offscreen by some random ninja i don't see him soloing all 5 raikage but hey he might surprise like the random who killed him.🤣
@@denzelmcmanus7117 that's not true at all we dont know how he died but it was probably chakra sickness the dude that fought a 9 tails cloaked in a su susano with madara on it's back and won the 9 tails slaps all the tailed beasts together
@@harmonwatson7511 You right all im saying is with pure physical might and speed hashirama not hanging with all 5 raikage solo hashirama with all his jutsus he's the goat for sure no doubt about that but fighting 5 kage level characters who are probably relative to each other in power with 2 or more capable of fighting 8 tails in one on one your underestimating the 5 raikage as a team.
Overall the cloud as a whole is strongest out of 5 but , konoha only slams cuz of its great hokage and ninja legends its not that overall powerful like cloud but some of leaf are gods like minato who ended the was by himself ( konhoa has most famous shinobi names around the world )
This was a really interesting video I've never considered that kind of stuff in Naruto. I think the cloud village was stronger overall but konoha almost always had someone who could solo their whole village lol
Konoha keeps increasing in strength due to its own internal conflict cycle. They begin with strong fighters, they get killed by someone related to konoha, the village developes new fighters to fill in the gap, and the cycle repeats. Sukumo got killed by village belief, Minato got killed by Obito, the Uchiha got killed by Itachi, Shusui basically got killed by Danzo, Sautobi got killed by Orochimaru. If the leaf didn't develop new fighters at an accelerated rate then it would have already died off already.
So, Konoha went from meh in Economy to the center of Scientific advancement. WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT HOKAGE KAKASHI THE MIRACLE WORKER? He pulled Konoha out of the BS state and TRANSFORMED it after a bloody world war!!!
It would be interesting to have seen pain attack the village in the clouds with an almighty push to see it get leveled out no more mountains, you’ll make it to millions of subs soon watch don’t forget about us😭😂
I accidentally clicked on this video more than a year after it was posted, and I have to say your hair transplant looks phenomenal. I got one a few years ago, it didn’t turn out bad, but I will definitely need another one in the coming years. Could you share with me (and maybe the audience) your experience, and who you used for your hair transplant?! Thank you!
No, they don't. Anime comes from Japan which has no obligation to address the stupid race politics that have overtaken the Western world, and with a variety of skin colors already represented in Naruto, how much more do you need to be satisfied? Why do so many people think they need to see characters with identical skin colors to identify with them? Usually if someone demands to see people of their same skin color in media, they'd be suspected of being racist or tribalistic.
@@HeroSword_P Rep is important not only because it’s “nice to see another black person on screen”but to educate people that are till this day still ignorant about black people. Rep Isn’t just about seeing another minority on screen you can identify with maybe to some people? But that’s not the only reason. It’s also important rep is handled correctly.
The hidden cloud is like an all around powerful village like a basket ball team with all all star player's while konoha is like a team with lebron and MJ and the rest are g league.
I like the head canon idea that they're so strict, they must have an intense police force. And probably straight up kill their possible defectors without mercy.
I really like your videos and theories but a lot of what you say regarding the raikage and hokage’s being the strongest is very subjective considering we don’t know much if not anything about the first generation of Kage in battle and the data book doesn’t say much besides a brief background. We also don’t know if kinkaku and ginkaku were apart of the kinkaku force at the time tobirama died. There’s a lot of opinions and theories around that but we don’t know.
12:35 and to add to that, they fought her in what looked like a cave... an enclosed space with very little space for them to dodge.. all she needed to do was shoot some aoe fire jutsu so they couldn't dodge her.
In the first ninja war the hiden village of the leaf had the two strongest fighters in ninja history for 2 generation plus, and the hidden village of the clouds just up and said, wanna catch these hands??
It really depends on what phase of obitos development on if he would win against tobirama. Single eye obito, i would say no. Ten tails Obito, yes. but the most interesting fight is against rinnegan obito, and i cant say for that one.
Several events could lead to the cloud being stronger than Konoha, losing minato and then konoha crush and then pain destroys the village all things that will damage you militarily and economically
I already think I know everything I need to know about naruto. A lot of the stuff you say isn’t new me. IM HERE SOLELY BECAUSE OF YOUR PERSONALITY. Your personality is amazing. It’s like having a good conversation with a friend even though we don’t know each other and you don’t know I’m talking back to you 😂😂😂
Well the Minato vs killer bee wasn't a draw. Just let for a fact that they both attacked. Minato had his kunai at his throat, that's an instant kill while bee had his sword for Minato's stomach. when you consider that Minato had his marked kunai lying in safe housed in the village he could have easily teleported back to the village healed and be back and action like nothing ever happened. Secondly we don't know that if hashirama died in a battle so konoha's losses aren't as bad as exaggerated.
It was a draw, If minato would have made a move it would have been over, Otherwise minato could have did exactly what you just said? But was probably out of chakra and tired from fighting.
Leaf Village: So what sealing jutsu do you use to tame your tailed beast?
Cloud Village: These hands!
Comment of the day 🤣
"Hands on no jutsu"
#Based
Star village: you guys need tailed beasts?
@@assfuckerthejointpounder5834 star village with the suicidal power ups 😂
I always thought the Hidden Cloud was always kinda nuts. Konoha has so many powerful kekkei genkai that it always felt like cheating, but the Cloud has lightning release, which is ridiculously powerful in the hands of somebody who knows how to use it. I mean, the 3rd Raikage was able to, with just lightining release, create an impenetrable shield, create an unstoppable attack, and move at ridiculous speeds. I know that he's the pinnacle of lightning release, but that's still insane for a base elemental chakra nature.
Konoha has one of the best lightning users ever. And he know over a thousand jutsu and he is kakashi the copy ninja
You forgot that they're the only people that can fight tailed beasts just with their fists, can break susano with their fist. B was the first person to technically kill Sasuke, multiple times during the same fight. They also got one of the seven Swordsmen of the Mist sword to change Alliance mid-fight. The first to have a perfect jinchuriki in their Village. The only Village to have people survived the Amaterasu black flames.
The 3rd and 4th is like the only other really good eye popping lighting users besides kakashi and sasuke that I can think of.
@@slasherFTK are you sleeping on darui and omi
@@slasherFTK what? Bee? A(the 4th)? Also Darui
Can we talk about how they have a better Jinchuuriki system? I mean they only made B a Jinchuuriki, after A considered him his brother. Every other village "let treat these kids like trash". They did this but at least gave B a group of people he could rely on.
You forgot Yugito? She got bodied so hard by Hidan
@@DefinitelyNotHidan we have no lore on Yugito, the OP is still incorrect though, of the 5 cannon times weve seen jinchuriki in their home village, only Gaara was treated poorly intentionally, Narutos mistreatment was not the norm for konoha (Mito and Kushine were married to Hokages) he would likely have had a better time if Danzo didnt intentionally polarize the village against him by leaking that he was the 9 tails right after the attack. That leave only Yagura (who we saw kisames flashbacks) who was the 4th Mizukage, you can make an arguement for Ginkaku and Kinkaku, but arent really jinchuriki. The idea that every other country mistreated their WALKING NUKES, is based on either nothing, or some terrible shippuden filler I havent watched.
@@tickledeggz there is a little lore on yugito from what the data books say about her she was a kunoichi everyone looked up to including B himself when she was taken by hidan and kakazu the cloud raided every akatsuki hideout they could find till but didn't find her in time.
Only Naruto and Garaa were mistreated, not sure about Yugito
@@TheodoreBrosevelt people literally through eggs at Bee in his past
One thing.
The 2 tail jinchuriki, Yugito Nii, spent most of her childhood learning how to control Mitatabi. She was able to control him to the point of being able to give a paw print for a beastiary. She knew full well how to use him and his abilities.
My guess is she underestimated Hidan's abilities and didn't use her jin cloak.
Yeah it’s pretty easy to underestimate the dude without ninjutsu
@@NCHammer23 Also typically when an enemy get smacked around by a tailed beast they aren't a danger, i think she was surprised by his immortality which is really one of Hidan's biggest ace which lead to her letting him get her blood.
Isn’t Matatabi a girl
@@NCHammer23 It's also very easy to get over confident against someone who allows themselves to be hit. His whole game is built on someone's over confidence.
Matabi is a girl my guy
I have a feeling Yugito died since she thought she killed Hidan, but since Hidan is immortal she powered down...leaving herself open and Hidan slashed her just enough to get her blood. When Yugito got ready for round two Hidan did his ritual and then stabbed himself...thus transferring the damage to Yugito.
probably what happened
She probably got done in by Kakuzu's raw durability
@@chikipichi5280 I really thought that kakuzu used hidan as a shield and just layed her out
@@chikipichi5280 No Hidan was the one who defeated her (since he was in the ritual). Just how is the question.
@@chikipichi5280 Hidan was the one who killed her.
While she is hanging, you can see the killing blow in her chest, and when the scene pans out, Hidan is pulling the spike out of his chest
“Technologically advanced.”
That’s very true.
They built a super howitzer designed to destroy the moon in response to getting slapped by Madara’s 2.
Madara's 2?
@@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman his two planetary devastations (2 small moons)
I rename it smoll moon buster 🤣🤣
Madara: what will you do with the second one?
Raikage: what will you do with these 3 MFs!?
To further know the hidden clouds Village's defense, them being so high would mean less air. Aside from making it difficult to breathe for anyone who isn't a native, I imagine fire and wind Jitsu wouldn't be effective. However lightning will have an advantage because there's less wind resistance. It might be why that's their focus.
Astute observation, good shit.
Land of lightning is surrounded by water and clouds are also water. This means their jutsu are powered up and more effective in those areas. So all of they're main opponents would have a chakra nature nerf while they had a buff. Ie (water, wind, & lighting) So even if they were 2nd. They would be 1st with a home field advantage.🙌🏾⚡🌩
Winds are typically stronger high up in mountains. I would assume wind style jutsu is more effective. Fires also catch and burn faster at high elevations. They only start more commonly at lower elevations due to higher biomass but wildfires travel upwards. There’s also a whole country who’s gimmick is to move mountains and earth.
not here to argue or anyting but didn't Naruto use a Rasin shuriken while in space on the moon so I'm not sure the higher up altitude would matter with the Jutsu
@@asaadcross3380 classy gucci
I always thought the Raikage line had one of the best abilities on the show. They amp their abilities by utilizing lighting technique. Boost their speed, power, defense and agility. All that with zero setbacks. Zero🤯
Which makes you wonder what would have happened had Kushina gotten taken, Kurama transferred to another Shinobi with Lightning Release and that Shinobi being able to control Kurama like Bee can his beast.
@@TheLastSane1 💯imagine
@@TheLastSane1 they'd be OP but still weaker than end of story/Hokage Naruto
@@100navat Well, if Hidden cloud can get Kurama at their disposal, it's possible their nation will grow stronger much earlier before Naruto have a time to growth. Without Kurama inside naruto its also mean he can be more weaker, not because he really need Kurama to become strong, but because his will to be very powerful can possibility would be more lacking because without Kurama he would just get a normal childhood without anyone resentment, even when he gets really strong later, it could be possible he will stuck in Jiraiya level in most of his life (can be slightly stronger because his Uzumaki bloodline to get enormous chakra but maybe not by far) until he meets Hagoromo to give him yin and yang release and a six of paths ability to boost his power level more into finally become a god-tier level.
But also if Kushina did get taken by cloud it's mean bye-bye for Naruto existence from the start.
The setback is you need insane amount of chakra to back it up, that's why the 3rd and 4th Raikage are like the only other really good lighting users besides kakashi and sasuke.
When a tailed beast gets loose.
The rest of the villages: Uses highly complex, and sophisticated sealing techniques.
The Cloud Village: Just punch it until stops moving.
I wonder how many they lose doing that though. The reason the other villages use sealing is to minimize the loss of life. Cloud Village seems like they are ok with losing dozens if not more of their own men in that fight.
@@TheLastSane1 I guess, it's because the hidden cloud Ninjas are on an average stronger, taller, more gaint than the other village people. So I think they can tank some hits from a tailed beast and still have better chances of survival. Who knows? Anyway it's just my guess.
They are the dark skinned Russians of the narutoverse.
@@uncommon_name9337 lol
the sand village: you guys are sealing your tailed beasts properly?
Regarding the overall military might differences between Hidden Cloud and Hidden Leaf... Hidden Leaf doesn't need to focus as heavily on adding to their military might, as they are usually the home of the two people who can kill everyone by themselves if they felt like it. So the Hidden Cloud has a strong incentive to try closing that gap with as many strong shinobi as they possibly can... Especially since they have a strong urge to fuck around during peacetime.
As a long time Naruto fan, and a brown skinned person I’ve always loved the Hidden Cloud. I think they don’t get enough credit for how truly powerful they are.
I know what you're talking about. Not enough brown/black folk in anime/Manga but when they are, we get people like Tosen Kaname and Yuroichi and the Raikages and Darui
@@TheAgent0060 Hell yeah! Don't forget about Aokiji, Kizaru, and Blackbeard.
Sameeeeeee
Agree! Some other OP black/brown characters Tousen (even tho it doesn't seem like it lol), Yoruichi-san, Chocolove/Joco McDonell (strongest furyoki level), and Huey Freeman (😉).
It's not that it's just it's a show that literally follows Naruto and his dream to become the leader of his village. If the show was about A than we would see more of the cloud village.
Yugito’s capture was one fight I really wish they would show in its entirety. She set a trap for Hidan and Kakuzu but still lost. I think their unique abilities make them too difficult to defeat with no intel on the first encounter. Case in point, Asuma’s death.
Yep. No one would expect someone to be immortal, much less a team of immortal beings. I can say kakazu didnt fight cause his clothing was clean and he wasnt sweating. So hiden killed her by himself so she mustve been caught up offfuard by his immortality
@@apologizethatyouwerebornin2616 definitely, more than likely fought her using tai jutsu to get the blood and end things quickly
I agree. I wish we would have gotten to see more
When you rewatch these fights between top tiers, the urge always very short, and very underwhelming. I rewatched Itachi vs Yagura, and all Itachi did was some basic ass fireball jutsu, and amaterasu when that didn't work. And Yagura was lame. Legit all he did was jinchuriki cloak, and beast bomb. And this scared Itachi away, AND killed Itachi's fellow Akatsuki who was a Seven Swordsman of the Mist.
The two-tails jinchuriki did not lose because she was a jinchuriki; she lost because Hidan was a literally unkillable religious nut. With the emphasis on the "unkillable" part. Seriously, Asuma _cut Hidan's head off_ and the freak _still_ wouldn't shut up!
Kind of hard to kill someone who refuses to stay dead even when you decapitate him...
Hehe
And he can transfer his own injuries with his enemies' blood.
The connection of Minato's bloodline runs deep with the Cloud Village. He spoiled there kidnapping attempt of Kushina. The reason Naruto was born. And Naruto married Hinata, in which the Cloud Village also attempted to kidnap. He encountered them in a mission. Minato probably wanted to learn the Flying Thunder God to counter or keep up, as he sees the Cloud Village ninjas as a threat. And what if Tobirama's creating the Flying Thunder God as not only a counter for the Uchiha but was also aware of the Lightning based ability from another land that requires a counter or keep up with speed. Then again Tobirama is just the Greatest Kage Of All Time.
Greatest?
@@shadagoat4500 yup
@@djPYBK Most important? Sure. Greatest? Heeeell fuuuckin naaaaw 😂😂😂
@@churrgee3675 respect your belief
I kinda think we're referring to Kage as a political leader and military leader in which case I think Tobirama is definitely more tactical than most other Kage. Like actual leadership
I always imagined that the Cloud village was the most advanced village/maybe the best place to live as a non-ninja.
I agree especially the geography of land of lightning.Living with the clouds is like living in heaven hahahaha and also land of lightning have a lot pf beautiful coastal beaches perfect for Vacation.
When Taka came to Hidden Cloud, Jugo said that this place was so calm and it is good for himself to control his cruelty
The 3rd Riakage had on a durag (@ 15:08 ) he was a menace from the jump 😂😂😂😂
Hidden Cloud is basically smart. They're able to basically be aware of anything culturally with other nations because of trade (whereas other villages had to deal with the smaller ones.) They didn't treat their Jinchuuriku like spawns of satan and basically trained them. They know when to retreat. Etc.
Hidden Leaf advantage is pretty much super OP ninjas and population. Even their deflectors are wild. Population is key here cause as far as we know the gold and silver brothers were the only real rebel. But as you noted they were still kept discreetly under their umbrella.
The Jinchurikis of the cloud village were also treated badly, like in all the other villages, which is why only Bee managed to control the Bijuu. The differentiating factor was never the cloud village's methodology to control the Bijuu, but Bee, he made the difference, he was the one who found a way to dominate the Bijuu, basically befriending the beast, that was the trick, but They were never going to achieve it by force and that was what the cloud village and all the other villages wanted.
I always felt like Kishimoto wanted to portray the Hidden Cloud as pretty comparable to Konoha from the time characters from there started to be properly introduced. I think it was a good decision tbh. If Konoha was clearly the strongest village, the fourth shinobi world war would have been a lot less interesting
Cloud was never even close to the Leaf village. Cloud's head ninja was one shot by Hinata's dad. They kept trying to obtain the Byakugan because they kept getting fodderized by Hyuugas. The Raikage was killed by 10 k fodders meanwhile Sasuke defeated over a thousand shinobi while not killing them, and not even having a scratch. The Fraud village.
@@abdurrahmanqureshi3030
Bro you been in ever thread 💩ing on the cloud.
Like damn hop off Brodie.
2:46 there was that whole arc with the boat shrooms on the way to the turtle island. This however solidifies that the oceans around Kumogakure are hard to navigate.
0:30 strongest village in konoha🤣🤣
Preciate you talking about our Raikages!✊🏾 And yes, that's a huge peice of revenue not being tapped into! I do wish they went into more detail with the 🌩️ village!
17:25 pain was from hidden rain
Just realized that Naruto could have canon movies talking about different Ninja wars. That would be great, I have heard the memes about having a Minato anime instead of Boruto but, hey, If they can make long movies or find ways to talk about those wars in Boruto...
Only reason it wouldn’t be good. We know when minatoe dies. So there wouldn’t be a sense of threat while watching.
@@najahshikamaru620 true but a lot of the time people are more interested in the journey of the character than the result of their journey and even if we know hoe minato dies we don't know who aside from certain characters close to him die or what he went through before becoming hokage.
There is tons of stuff still unexplored in the Naruto verse. Its a literal gold mine to expand upon.
I agree that's my biggest dream in Naruto to have a movie or long episode dictating and showing the 3 great wars that's so very cool imagine so many cools fights and story.I would rather watch the Great war in Naruto than watch the entire the Boruto series.Boruto is a boring show who only have a brat spoiled child .
I love that the hidden cloud has figured out how to use lightning release to enhance speed, defense, cutting edge, even give it sentient will, etc. but the concept of a Chidori, essentially an electrified punch, is just beyond them.
Chidori is a falcon punch/spear it requires a different style of lighting release. I agree tho hidden cloud didn't rely on weird eyes or broken reincarnation cycles
Moral of the gold and silver brothers: chew your food.
The hidden cloud: village of throwing hands
I've always thought of the hidden cloud as the second strongest or tied with Konoha but I've never thought of it to be stronger, and I'm interested and ready to be proven wrong
Once Madara and Hashirama were dead, the hidden cloud probably climbed up to be the strongest.
Canonically Kumo is the strongest pound for pound. Konoha has larger numbers.
I just out here throwing out ideas
@@The_Paddle_Smith I don’t know per say if they climbed up because the leaf still had hyuga, uchiha, sarutobi and other clans that are very threatening to say the least that keeps the leaf out of any big threats🤔🤔
Sarutobi was stronger then raikage
Great video man
I always thought the Cloud was stronger fundamentally . Maybe due to their constant need to stay ahead of the game ? Over the years I've come to the conclusion each Village on home turf though is just as Strong as the other.
Konoha; Every Shinobi you meet has some sort of Hidden Jutsu or a Kekkei Genkai . How the fuck do you prepare for that ? The second you're near their village you have multiple clans throwing random Jutsu out their ass.
The Hidden Rock; had the Dust Element which I can only imagine , applied properly could keep a village away from wanting to attack Iwa right at their door step .
Hidden Sand; An army could die just trying to find it in their desert , and then to top it all off the second you find it , Shukaku is deployed to destroy opposing forces.
Hidden Mist; tactical advantage as A LOT of water Jutsu would take down anything invading their shorelines . They're very closed in and the Mist under the 2nd Mizukage probably had all sorts of Genjutsu Barriers built into it .
And of course all the points you just mentioned about the Cloud and their terrain .
Tobirama might be underrated imo. He invented jutsu left and right and he one shot Izuna, a confirmed mangekyou user and brother to Madara, and who was also overpowered Tobirama's advanced water style with fire style. And he was almost as fast as Minato who was likely the fastest ninja of all time.
Tobirama was a beast. If I'm not mistaken he took the Gold and silver bros down with him. So... I sort of put him just slightly above Minato tbh.
he isnt above minato tho he is strong. The gold and silver brothers had 4 tail forms of kurama while minato was working kurama and beat obito easily.
Always thought the Hidden Cloud had some of the coolest features of the ninja villages! The history of them being just muscle in the face of Konoha and the other villages is just awesome
I feel like most anime struggle with powerful female characters. Temari probably being the best represented in Naruto. Erza in anime in general. A top 10 kunoichi video would be pretty cool.
"Kishimoto couldn't write a strong woman if Nobara punched him in the face."
Probably not, but that made me take a minute to appreciate the *wonderful* character that is Nobara
Nobara from Jujutsu Kaisen?
@@tapeshsharma9254 yes. She's an absolute icon
@@karthiknarayanan3705 I'm going to pretend i didn't just read possible spoilers. 🙃
I'm an anime only watcher, please don't spoil anything. Deleting the comment would also be nice to reduce the chances of other people getting it spoiled. Or at least put "SPOILERS AHEAD" at the beginning of the comment.
Navys aren’t practical in a world where people can shoot 35m twin water dragon gods at you.
Konoha: "We have wireless headsets, tv's, vcr's and even security cameras all the way back in chuunin exams og naruto."
Also Konoha: "How do cross water?"
I've always loved the look of the hidden cloud.
It's such a shame we never see it in detail.
Hidden cloud is more stable. The problem with Konoha is that most of the damage that is done in Konoha is done by shinobis of Konoha such as Madara, Obito, Danzo, Orochimaru. Konoha is ruled by idiots and they create problems. They are the strongest because of crazy powerful ninjas but not stable and as a result, their powers are all over the place. Also, one other big weakness is that they are in the center and is an easier target for everyone. This is the opposite of Hidden Cloud, where they are extremely stable and loyal and strengthens themselves gradually. Also, they have 2nd strongest group of ninjas after Konoha. Honestly aside from 2nd Hokage, there have been like no good Hokage. Maybe Kakashi was a great Hokage but he retired so do not know what happened during that time.
Second Hokage is the one that caused most of the issues in konoha down the line.
@@ManiVortex3965 Not really, he was the best. He created the anbu corps and the ninja school system. He developed the village and made everything into a system. Others fucked up later that was the problem. 1st and 3rd hokages were idiots. 4th hokage did not have much time as a ruler. Tsunade was good but had to work hard to deal with previous problems and how Kakashi was don't know.
@@faruquekhan3353 Really makes you wonder what kind of hokage Minato would have been had he'd lived more than a year or so. How would he had dealt with the politics of the hyuuga's and Uchiha's any differently than how Hiruzen could do and without the elders getting in his way? Sure, he was a genius in terms of jutsu being able to create a brand new one just by watching a tailed beast bomb and making the rasengan, fluent in sealing jutsu thanks to connections with his wife and of course the flying raijin (which then later got retconned to be Tobirama's). But that doesn't tell much about how he'd do so politically. He most definitely wouldn't had let Orochimaru get away since I think Orochimaru left a little after the nine tails attack? It's quite interesting but again Its hard to say, he obviously wasn't hesitant on killing thanks to his experience in war but he wasn't cold hearted either.
@@faruquekhan3353 bro no matter what he created he created the bigger problems that ultimately caused konoha to always have internal turmoil...if not for his bias towards a particular clan the leaf doesn't have half the problems it did
@@qualiswilliams7403 It wasn't him. At that moment he had valid concerns for the Uchiha clan so he was wary of them but he still respected them and gave them power and prestige. He gave them the Konoha police force which was to both watch them but at the same time give the Uchiha clan a lot of prestige. In addition, in his team, there was an Uchiha clan member. He was a founder and had concerns for Uchiha but then he died and the 3rd Hokage messed it all up. 2nd Hokage built a good system for Konoha but it was up to the successors to improve Konoha. Honestly, 3rd Hokage was just so bad.
I feel like the hidden cloud would be stronger if it weren't for Konoha just getting a ranomd prodigy child who can take on armiesand nations by themselves, aka naruto or sasuke now, minato, itachi, hashirama, sarutobi, like Konohas army isnt that strong since base part 1 kabuto can easily beat like 6 anbu ninja.
Beating Anbu isn't really a flex. Anbu are mainly trained and used for assassinations, not direct combat.
@@SquidSqui wrong, they are the strongest ninja that konoha has, as you seen they were called to fight during pains invasion and had some pretty good feats and did better than almost all of the jonin, excluding some special jonin like kakashi, but they are meant for all things ninja wise even direct combat, the only reason they are used for assassination more is because danzo is the head and doesnt want the anbu powers leaked
@@SquidSqui I’m glad you pointed that out, cause a lot of people don’t know that
@@konncord Incorrect. The Anbu work directly for the Hokage, not Donzo. The Root works for Donzo. The only thing they did in the Pain fight was protect Tsunade, as the other thing besides assassinations, that they do, is gaurd the Hokage. NCHammer even has a video that explains this.
Kakashi up there to
He’s saying things that makes perfect sense that hasn’t been said. I love him
Oh and the Stats were just after Konoha was destroyed by Pain, basically when Konoha wasn't at its strongest and all its infrastructure was destroyed. Before that you could easily argue Konoha was on par, if not stronger than Kumogakure due to its massive population which would have translated into a huge military and prosperous economy.
Even before Pain Konoha had to deal with nearly losing the 3rd Shinobi War, Kyubi Incident as well as Konoha Crush. Konoha was no where near as prosperous as it was during the First and Second Hokage Era. Konoha was basically destabilized and just barely getting their shit back together. In comparison Kumogakure was only a participant in the 1 and 3rd War and was technologically stronger than Konoha meaning they've been ahead for quite some time and was always more prosperous.
Cope
@@rizefamilz2563 Nearly losing the 3rd shinobi war because they were up against the rock, cloud and the mist yet konaha handled them single handedly.
@@rizefamilz2563 Well no, Konoha didn't nearly lose the 3rd Shinobi war world, they signed an armistice not a surrender. The reason why there was so much political pressure on Hiruzen to end the war, was because fighting a 3v1 war from 3 different sides was very much economically and demographically really costly and people wanted out of it. Konoha essentially stalemated 3 villages, 2 of which were the next 2 strongest villages after Konoha. However I would agree with some points there, the Kyubi incident really hurt Konoha, not only killing off a portion of the population, it also took out the guy who kept the stalemate from the 3rd shinobi world war by himself (Minato). The Uchiha massacre took out some of the strongest people in the village, (Shishui, Fugaku and Itachi leaving) and a good portion of the population most of which were very talented shinobi and then Konoha Crush came around after which not only did Konoha lose more of it's population, they also lost the last remaining Uchiha, who defected, and their jinchuriki going off on an adventure outside of the village with one of the 2 remaining Sannin.
The 3 years between Sasuke retrieval and Shippuden should have been the worst years for Konoha both economically and military since the village was founded.....
I still can't get over the hidden cloud chasing out their Doujutsu users the Chinoike
They didn't. The Chinoike were defeated by the Uchiha and driven to the Land of Hot Springs
@@abdurrahmanqureshi3030 The uchiha were hired to force them out, they were paid to do it. I don't remember the details but after a woman in the clan married the lord of the land and he died they were blamed for it, that was why the Uchiha was dragged into it to chase them out.
If the Cloud hadn't wanted to lose them the Uchiha wouldn't have been able to do it, at least not like they did. You could take any other village and say they were sent to chase out the Hyuga or Uchiha, the leaf wouldn't have just ignored it like the cloud did.
If you really want to look into it, Kumo as we are introduced to it, is run by a big loud muscled black man wearing gold bracelets and cornrows, with a brother that's a rapper. If that's not the epitome of stereotype, I don't really know what is. I can understand why a predominantly Japanese art form doesn't have a lot of black people in it, so the representation in anime doesn't really matter as much to me. That said, if there was a spinoff which focused on the history and founding of Kumo, I'd be game to watch/read it, given that they have such a heavy focus on kenjutsu and taijutsu.
It really says something that it is the strongest( according to this video) village as well, and that almost everyone from there is a powerhouse
@Acechemicals22 It's running on the stereotype that black people are naturally strong and therefore vetter at athletics. Even though this is more of a "positive" stereotype and kishimoto dismantled it somewhat by showing different personalities types other than killer bee rapping.
I’d like to remind you that Kakazu tanked her, the two tails, tailed beast bombs. So I’d argue that Hidan didn’t really do much when you consider how much more powerful Kakazu is.
That was a Fireball, not a Tailed Beast Bomb.
@@glayzeterminus6657 The tailed beast ball was used on a mountain. He did tank the paw strike.
Strong raikage, 2 tailed beasts, and the gold and silver Brothers. At one point all these were in the village and I can see how they could take on konoha. If they all worked together.
If they did that during Tsunade's Hokageship.
Madara with nine tails and Hashirama are enough to destroy hidden cloud if they want to cooperate together.
@@ssschannel9742 Madara alone could possibly end the hidden cloud with the 9 tails
Ngl I feel like Kishimoto messed up writing the hidden cloud. A lot of the things you mention in this video just break the balancing in the rest of the Naruto world. I mean Hashirama, the god of shinobi, a reincarnation of Ashura, a man who could level mountains with ease died after fighting for 24hrs straight but the 3rd raikage fought an onslaught for 72hrs straight etc. Then on top of that things like the gold and silver brothers being the only ones who we know was directly descended from the sage of six paths even tho they don’t seem to have inherited any genetic traits aside from having a lot of chakra just don’t seem to fit
The 3rd Rai's feat is extremely underrated and overlooked imo but let's clarify that Hashirama was fighting Madara when he died. Madara alone is likely stronger than the forces that the 3rd was tearing through so judging from battle time in this context isn't such a good idea for power accuracy.
Though true, the Hidden Cloud had the 3rd Raikage, Ay, Killer Bee and 8 Tails, Kin/Gin; esc so yes they were op. Most of the strong shinobi in Konoha were kicked out or dead by the time the Cloud came into prominence though. Konoha wasn't in good form. The top fighters in Konoha at the time was Minato (no Kyubi half), the Sannin, Hiruzen, and the wild Kyubi.
I think that's comparable to the Cloud if nothing else though.
@@justsomeguywithahotpinkmus9746 Madara was extremely powerful but he was already playing dead and had gone into hiding by the time the 1st shinobi world war started during which Hashirama died
@@justsomeguywithahotpinkmus9746 hashirama wasnt fighting madara when he died? Madara was thought to be dead at the valley of the end. Madara would have already been on his life support tree thing 😂
@@austinroark639 madara faked his death with izanagi, awakened the Rinnegan after biting off some of hashirama’s flesh or something… then connected his body to the gedo statue so he could extend his life
@@kadar_radio6308 izanagi makes since and yep that good ole life support tree/ statue
Hey loved the point at the end The Hidden Cloud has alot of potential and a Black version Naruto would sell like hot cakes
I wasn't sure if you knew more about Naruto than Kishimoto himself, good thing you always start out every video giving yourself props and telling us youre the expert and the rest of us dont know shit. Self love is important. You're doing important work. In all seriousness though I watch because you're great at explaining things even if we already know everything you're going to talk about (not always the case of course), I even enjoy the head canon. I'll take your self pump up all day if it means I don't have to hear Seth and Swag do their Bevis and Butthead impression.
Lol Seth is scared to disagree with swag.
@@garythompson1345 exactly, I will happily watch more of this goofy golden retriever in human form even if he says "Notee Bell" which is the most annoying thing I've ever heard, because damn does he ever do a great break down.
Those two guys are the absolute worst. They just slap each other on the ass all day and they are ‘experts’ on a mid tier manga.
Weird cope😂
*You said in this video that Hashirama and the 3rd Raikage were the only ones that captured a tail beast by themselves. But in a different video you say the first Kazekage also captured a tail beast by himself (Shukaku)*
True. You can add him, but how they did it is different. He has a direct counter to shukaku, and hashirama is quite literally born with a kekkei genkkai that seals things. Those to are powerful but they not only a type advantage but their abilities come with the power to seal their respective tailed beast(or all of them in hashiramas case) the raikage just beat theirs into submission and have them sealed afterwards.
leaf has the strongest individuals. The cloud has more ninja that are mid high tier. Like if you took a random cloud and fire ninja out of a crowd 6/8 times the cloud would win.
also the cloud village has those big ol breasticals. all their woman are stacked. That blond chick that always says chill? jesus son. What a woman. brickhouse if i ever saw one. Choji should have got with that amazon.
Actually in terms of individual power, the average Konoha ninja is much stronger, considering their specialty abilities and clan heritage. The Sand would also have better shinobi considering they specifically focus on quality over quantity.
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The sand are weaker than both cloud and leaf lol
The average sand ninja stands zero chance against a average cloud or leaf ninja.
@@LoopyDreamz775 did you even watch the show ? Baki low diffed Hayate and Gaara was beating every leaf ninja before naruto showed up. The sand siblings had to save the sasuke rescue team against sound ninja who were much stronger than Konoha jonin. You clearly have no idea what your talking about and only know about the show through Boruto.
The head ninja of the cloud village got one shot by hinata’s uncle , the cloud has always been fodder and trash ever since part 1. I would argue even sound ninjas are stronger than the cloud
Recently found your channel and got to say man I love it. I especially loved your video about adult Sakura. However, not only are you enjoyable to watch because of how you break things down, there has been several times where you flat out made me laugh in a good way.
subbed and cant wait to see more of your videos.
Counterpoint: Hinata's father killed their head ninja with a single poke to the stomach.
Appreciate your hard work Nick! Supporting your work all the way!
Can we talk about how the heavenly transfer technique...is like the actual ULTIMATE assassination technique? You are just sitting at your desk like "Huh thats an active volcano right there outside my window.....and now the hokage is inside that active volcano, woopsie im such a scorpio."
its no wonder the allied shinobi force chose the village hidden in the clouds for its headquarters. place is a fortress.
They didn’t chose Konoha because of Danzo issue
@@tadijavpserbian9808 was talking about where they put their hq not which village would be in charge of the allied shinobi forces. even if the leaf was put in charge they would not have put their hq in the leaf because the leaf was far from fortified after pains attack.
Yeah
Bro i cant believe you are almost at 200k. I remember like 4 months ago or something when you were at like 30k. Wow i haven't even looked at your subscriber count in a while. The first video i saw you make was the minato being tsunades son or the hisashi hyuga creating the otsutsuki. I had just gotten into naruto lore. I grew up on the series but nothing is like swagkage, seth the programmer, and you explaining naruto. It is so amazing and i cant wait until you get up there with them with recognition because dude you deserve all the credit and praise you get for these videos. They are so well edited imo and you do a great job of explaining stuff. Some people say its not 100% canon but i dont care you make it part of MY naruto lore and i love it and thats what matter to me. So thank you for making these videos nick and keep up the great work.
Edit: i checked those videos were posted 7 months ago.
Kishimoto is sitting on a gold mine.
One of the key areas he failed in Naruto. Was world building and character development.
Narutos world feels vast. We've been told of so many other places.
But very few have been built upon.
He could have done so much more not only for the side characters but for the other nations as well
The hidden cloud deserves its own show
Facts
@@NCHammer23
One of the series I love
The scientific railgun
Or magical index.
It is a series with three spinoff of the three main characters
And the development was incredible
I think Naruto as a series would have benefited.
They could have had a Sasuke spinoff for instance with his training with orochimaru.
So while Naruto is doing his thing they have a side series showing Sasuke.
The plot of Naruto was far to fast paced in shippuden.
They never really developed the other jinchurriki
Or the clans.
I mean with all the clans in Naruto specifically in leaf how did places like cloud hold up.
It's hard to belive the d books about the cloud when we don't see it.
Same as people believe neji is useless at range.
But he has a 4 in ninjutsu and 3 elements.
But we don't see this.
I agree
@@NCHammer23 it has its own turtle island like in aviator that moves and allows interesting creatures to live on it in order to allow their tailed beast to train.
I’m not sure if you mentioned that because maybe I over heard that part🤷🏼♂️ but that’s the same island that naruto used a boat to travel to lol before boruto
R.I.P. Mabui she was a baddie asf 😩😢
We need a “you know nothing about Obito” or “the life of Obito” by far my favorite character . Please
There's a RUclips channel that did a "The Life Of Obito"- The Amagi
Nah bro simply threw hands with the 8 tails and got it to pipe down, an fought an entire army only to loose his life cause bro needed a power nap, I need a full light novel on the 3rd Raikage expeditiously
The probably reason hidden cloud don't have any betrayal is the leader is not worried somebody with try to take his position if you have strength come and take it
"we don't see a boat before boruto." *remembers seeing one in one of the preshippudan movies.*
Maybe they have a better average of strength. But as we’ve seen a ton of times in the manga, quality > quantity.
13:18 felt 😭
this is a bit of a head canon, but I think Kumo has a reputation for stealing Kekkei-Genkai from other ninja-villages, like when they tried to steal the Byakugan from Hinata or Kushina for her Uzumaki chakra; that would also explain why there are shinobi like Daodai (the rubber lava release guy) & Toroi of the Magnet release in Kumo who have Kekkei-Genkai not commonly associated with the Land of Lightning
About the lava stil: That kg is the most spreaded Kekkei genkai in naruto.
Whe have it in Kiri by mei. Whe have it in the cloud. Than was one of the original Akatsuki member a lava stil user. A enemy in the sasuke novel used it. And, whe hav Kurotsuchi, who has it.
The source of it must be spreaded over the country at some point (i wonder, why the kg should be focused so strong in some regions, in the turn of the ages, it should be logical, that it has spreaded a cross the lands to). Or, elemental kg are mutations that can come spontanoeus. And is based on, wich elements you has learned.
At last gave Mei the impression, that that is the case. She sayed, that she can use 3 natures. And, that allowed her, to use 2 kekkei Genkai.
That give the impression that families with element kg can create randomly element kg, based on the base elements, thay learned (probally with affinitys to certain elements, what make some kg more common by them).
To the other hand, is there Kurotsuchi. Who has, like Mei, fire, earth and water. But, it looks like, that she has only the lava stil kg, to create cement (that she use in combi with her water). From Mei`s words, she should have the boil release to. Because, both have the same base.
So, it didnt must mean, that the kumo has a focus, on stealing kekkei genkai. Or, that would be something, each villiage would probally to (capture someone who has a rare ability, take him to your villiage and force him to create offspring to make the villiage stronger in the future).
Don’t forgot about the chinoike’s clan but yk what happened to them
The cloud village: "dont try it! I have the high ground!"
It wouldn't matter where they built their village and their defenses would be useless if the leaf kept the 8 tailed beasts. And possibly take the first tails from the sand village. And treated them as equals and properly trained and matched them with humans.
Starting a war with two nations both with a tailed beast that can possibly team up together increasing thier military might is not a good idea and on top of that if the leaf kept the 8 tails they can't control the 9 or 8 tails so them having it means nothing.
hashirama could solo all 5 raikages
@@harmonwatson7511 The guy got killed offscreen by some random ninja i don't see him soloing all 5 raikage but hey he might surprise like the random who killed him.🤣
@@denzelmcmanus7117 that's not true at all we dont know how he died but it was probably chakra sickness the dude that fought a 9 tails cloaked in a su susano with madara on it's back and won the 9 tails slaps all the tailed beasts together
@@harmonwatson7511 You right all im saying is with pure physical might and speed hashirama not hanging with all 5 raikage solo hashirama with all his jutsus he's the goat for sure no doubt about that but fighting 5 kage level characters who are probably relative to each other in power with 2 or more capable of fighting 8 tails in one on one your underestimating the 5 raikage as a team.
sooo hidden cloud is basically the equivalent to wakanda
“Till white men found out they wanted pineapples”
I’m on the floor dying from laughte
Yugito was a perfect Jinchuriki too
Overall the cloud as a whole is strongest out of 5 but , konoha only slams cuz of its great hokage and ninja legends its not that overall powerful like cloud but some of leaf are gods like minato who ended the was by himself ( konhoa has most famous shinobi names around the world )
How is konohoa not that overall powerful
Konoha is the most strongest overall
The cloud is the second strongest,
Konoha is the First…because of their clans and shit
What I'm getting from this video is the Hidden Cloud is the USA of this world
This was a really interesting video I've never considered that kind of stuff in Naruto. I think the cloud village was stronger overall but konoha almost always had someone who could solo their whole village lol
Give us more hidden cloud, and a movie for each shinobi was(1-3)
Mr nchammer thank you I learned so much about anime from you
Konoha keeps increasing in strength due to its own internal conflict cycle. They begin with strong fighters, they get killed by someone related to konoha, the village developes new fighters to fill in the gap, and the cycle repeats. Sukumo got killed by village belief, Minato got killed by Obito, the Uchiha got killed by Itachi, Shusui basically got killed by Danzo, Sautobi got killed by Orochimaru. If the leaf didn't develop new fighters at an accelerated rate then it would have already died off already.
The hidden cloud could be possibly the strongest they know more about other villages and they know how to counter other villages
Always on point ✌🏼
So, Konoha went from meh in Economy to the center of Scientific advancement. WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT HOKAGE KAKASHI THE MIRACLE WORKER? He pulled Konoha out of the BS state and TRANSFORMED it after a bloody world war!!!
The third raikage was like take these hands beast
It would be interesting to have seen pain attack the village in the clouds with an almighty push to see it get leveled out no more mountains, you’ll make it to millions of subs soon watch don’t forget about us😭😂
Yes, Or fury jutsu on them
Yes, Or fury jutsu on them
Why would he do that?
He has no beef with them only the leaf because the leaf is the most corrupt village in the ninja world 😂
I accidentally clicked on this video more than a year after it was posted, and I have to say your hair transplant looks phenomenal. I got one a few years ago, it didn’t turn out bad, but I will definitely need another one in the coming years. Could you share with me (and maybe the audience) your experience, and who you used for your hair transplant?! Thank you!
I feel like konoha was #1 but all villages were pretty powerful. Don't underestimate Gara and the sand, or oinoki and stone. Even the mist was op
sand village is trash
Well ...you did it again. You crazy bastard you provoked my thoughts about my favorite anime and gave me better perspective! Thanks Nick!
I really appreciate send-off. Colored Folk do need more representation in anime and I always thought the hidden cloud was a good representation✊🏿
No, they don't. Anime comes from Japan which has no obligation to address the stupid race politics that have overtaken the Western world, and with a variety of skin colors already represented in Naruto, how much more do you need to be satisfied? Why do so many people think they need to see characters with identical skin colors to identify with them? Usually if someone demands to see people of their same skin color in media, they'd be suspected of being racist or tribalistic.
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Rep is important not only because it’s “nice to see another black person on screen”but to educate people that are till this day still ignorant about black people.
Rep Isn’t just about seeing another minority on screen you can identify with maybe to some people? But that’s not the only reason.
It’s also important rep is handled correctly.
The hidden cloud is like an all around powerful village like a basket ball team with all all star player's while konoha is like a team with lebron and MJ and the rest are g league.
The hidden cloud is my favourite village,glad u made a vid dedicated to it🙏✨
I like the head canon idea that they're so strict, they must have an intense police force. And probably straight up kill their possible defectors without mercy.
I really like your videos and theories but a lot of what you say regarding the raikage and hokage’s being the strongest is very subjective considering we don’t know much if not anything about the first generation of Kage in battle and the data book doesn’t say much besides a brief background. We also don’t know if kinkaku and ginkaku were apart of the kinkaku force at the time tobirama died. There’s a lot of opinions and theories around that but we don’t know.
“A Hidden Cloud Village show is a gold mine.” -NCHammer
#Facts
Considering that the Allied Shinobi Forces HQ was in Kumogakure itself...how did Kumogakure survive the Ten-Tails Bijudama?
Big turtle doing turtle things probably
Just add another tally to the War Arc Plot Hole counter
If you watch the series you’ll notice the HQ and where all the shinobi forces gathered for the speech are by the coastline
12:35 and to add to that, they fought her in what looked like a cave... an enclosed space with very little space for them to dodge.. all she needed to do was shoot some aoe fire jutsu so they couldn't dodge her.
Could we get a video about the hidden mist village, for some reason I’ve always found them interesting 🧐 plus I like There former mizukage mei
the 3rd raikage was really just boxing the 8 tails
In the first ninja war the hiden village of the leaf had the two strongest fighters in ninja history for 2 generation plus, and the hidden village of the clouds just up and said, wanna catch these hands??
They are the Saxon Haaaaaaaaallllle of the naruto world.
Hahaha
"They were ready to give everyone the smoke." I love it here 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
It really depends on what phase of obitos development on if he would win against tobirama. Single eye obito, i would say no. Ten tails Obito, yes. but the most interesting fight is against rinnegan obito, and i cant say for that one.
I love your videos on the slightly more obscure world aspects
Several events could lead to the cloud being stronger than Konoha, losing minato and then konoha crush and then pain destroys the village all things that will damage you militarily and economically
I already think I know everything I need to know about naruto. A lot of the stuff you say isn’t new me. IM HERE SOLELY BECAUSE OF YOUR PERSONALITY. Your personality is amazing. It’s like having a good conversation with a friend even though we don’t know each other and you don’t know I’m talking back to you 😂😂😂
Well the Minato vs killer bee wasn't a draw. Just let for a fact that they both attacked. Minato had his kunai at his throat, that's an instant kill while bee had his sword for Minato's stomach. when you consider that Minato had his marked kunai lying in safe housed in the village he could have easily teleported back to the village healed and be back and action like nothing ever happened. Secondly we don't know that if hashirama died in a battle so konoha's losses aren't as bad as exaggerated.
It was a draw,
If minato would have made a move it would have been over,
Otherwise minato could have did exactly what you just said?
But was probably out of chakra and tired from fighting.
The strongest village in Konoha is the village in the clouds…got it 😂