@@PokeNachos Phillipines gots lots of nurses willing to come here, and work for far less, stop the bs. Their threats on quitting I'm calling them on Bye bye kapiolani nurses
They are striking because Hawaii nurses get paid less than mainland's nurse. The thing is the nurses works alot of overtime but the nurses don't want more staff even though their reasoning is unsafe working condition due to lack of staff. So it's like do they want the overtime or more staff? I guess they want to get paid more and also keep the overtime hours.
they're striking because they wanted mandated patient ratios, and also they don't want the mandated overtime. nobody wants to be told to stay another 4 hours when they just worked 12 hours.
Lol they want the overtime and more staff.. like don't you think they deserve it or no? As long as people gotta pay for health care (it's a Billion dollar business btw) I can't see why the powers that be can't pay their employees what they deserve.
That's sickening and greedy, our health care is the highest in the nation, and will get even worse that that in the future, i say let them go, quit and leave. Cheaper and better to fly to the mainland for health care. That's totally outrageous, greedy . Beat it strikers, you cause high inflation. Hawaii is not the mainland, don't compare there to here.
Mahalo for clarity of information from either side of the negotiation table. Nuance in differing perspectives of a solution. It will be interesting to see how this plays out regarding differing perspectives of supply and demand. Safe numbers means having some agency and say and power over how many patients are assigned to a nurse. A high salary for 3 days a week under conditions of closely monitoring more patients than you can SAFELY handle is humanitarianly ....irresponsible and unrealistic principally. Please continue follow up to continue to further understand perspectives of healthcare and a caregiver from a humanistic and not purely a capitalistic perspective.
I work at a hospital in Boston. We just went through this a week and a half ago. We vote to ratify next week. Hospital management doesn’t want to talk or listen. Stay strong and if they lock you out…good lick to them care for patients. Shows who they really care about and it’s not the patients or employees
Wow 130K to 160K a year plus bonuses and work 3 days a week? And they are still want more? As a auto mechanic I was only getting at most maybe 1/4 that much and the work is 5 days a week. No wonder hospital bills are so expensive.
@@Insomniac-c7e that nursing pay doesn’t even show up on your medical bill, that’s how small it is compared to your other costs. The real costs are procedures, and equipment expense.
Seventeen percent of nurses quit their positions within the first year of their careers-a whopping 56 percent left within the first five years. The average career length for nurses is now nine years,
That's sickening and greedy, our health care is the highest in the nation, and will get even worse that that in the future, i say let them go, quit and leave. Cheaper and better to fly to the mainland for health care. That's totally outrageous, greedy . Beat it strikers, you cause high inflation. Hawaii is not the mainland, don't compare there to here. Let's get filipino nurses from the Philippines they'd gladly work for 1/3 of The pay and be happy. Get rid of that agas trouble maker asap
@@christycharitychambers1830 well many carrers are the same and no different, what schools teach is as glamorous as the real jobs are not. Kids today think its easy job that schools project,, and cannot comprehend the rigious duties needed.
@@christycharitychambers1830 true but don't you think 130,000 to 160,000 and asking for raises is outrageous and greedy while we're all suffering, the janitors work harder, should we pay them 175,000. Get real
@@christycharitychambers1830 let me let you in on something, the hospital is a business, if they pay you more, they'd have to cut more positions, this is how they basically balance the books. You're actually doing it to yourselves, hoodwinked and manipulated by the union. And you say they deserve fairness, NOT think again
An eager workforce is a desperate one, ones who bought into indentured servitude in terms of exponential student loans and debt. In the ecological economic landscape of a cost of living desert trap disguised as home and the place of the aloha spirit, and you find yourself in what Admiral Ackbar yelled out iconically in Star Wars: it's a trap.
What are the startup costs of hiring and entire workforce that is sustainable and durable for the long term? 💰💸Risk management and cost effectiveness of getting a fresh naive self sacrificing noble frontline workforce who is willing to ditch and leave the island cause they can find better conditions on the mainland and have no emotional ties to the aloha spirit anymore that has been thrown in their face via human resource cultures willing to sacrifice workforce quality of life for the legal baseline of keeping a hospital running?💸💰
@@christycharitychambers1830 You’re full of 💩!!! If these nurses agreed to this package the hospital is offering, they would have been *THE HIGHEST PAID NURSES IN THE NATION!!!* The average pay for an RN is $86,000. The top 3 paying states are California ($125,000), Oregon ($99,000) and HAWAI’I ($111,000). With this package, they would’ve made $130,000-$160,000, beating out the top paying state (California) by $40,000 a year, that’s an entire salary of many people earn on its own. But they’re about to learn. They can go to the states and work harder for less. BYE!! *LOCK THE DOOR!!!*
@@christycharitychambers1830 Hawai’i is in the top 3 best paying in the nation, stop BSing. If these greedy nurses took the hospitals offer, Hawai’i would have been the #1 top paying, beating out the current #1 top paying by $40,000… that’s an entire salary for some people. Sit down and 🤐.
Enabling burnout for the workforce. Cost of living desperation does not warrant marrying terms of workplace implicit abuse of power and devaluing human safety in terms of money.👏👏👏 Those who invested in the long term relationship know the bad side of all partners. This is discarding behavior. Words of value to not align and match behaviors of power play. Those who commit too early to marriage based on money are locked into the very institutionalized prison of swallowing the organization dysfunctional abuse. 🚩🚩🚩Organizational behavior that signals your disposability and your loss of power to say how you can safely work is a RED FLAG in any relationship. Frameworks apply in many contexts. Watch this redflag relationship play out. 🚩🚩🚩Leave for your own sanity and dignity.🚩🚩🚩
You need nurses, DON'T LOCK THEM OUT...........THEY WILL LEAVE THE STATE!!!!!!!!!!!! There are not enough nurses as it is!!!!!!!!! Provide better patient care and take care of the nurses.
Good idea and lock them arrogant greedy nurses out, hawaii has the highest health care already, and its only going to get worse if they get their raises.
They don't get paid this and although it is proposed to settle the strike they won't get paid this is they settle... you are just another non health care worker who doesn't get it
@@christycharitychambers1830 this is not about that you compare to other states, are you kidding , it's about inflation of health costs in hawaii and not greedy nurses, what you cannot live comfortably on 130,00 to 160,000. This is about hawaiis future for local people who are suffering, stop thinking just about yourselves. Shame on you 😕 omg
@@christycharitychambers1830 nurses say they care for the patients right, that's bs and hogwash, if they cared they wouldn't be asking for over the top absorbent raises, you want hawaii local people to suffer and die because they cannot afford health care? The unions have put you in this position by high overpaid salaries, the hospital had to compensate by adjusting staffing, it's a business you know. How do these nurses sleep at night knowing people already cannot afford health care and they are asking for raises and staffing shortages which they have and the unions created? Get real bye bye kapiolani nurses, hire Phillipines nurses from the Phillipines and they would gladly work for one forth of your pay and have full staff
No nurses = No working hospital.
oh they will always find others who wants to work 😮, always
they will always find those who want to work, always 😮
@@PokeNachos Phillipines gots lots of nurses willing to come here, and work for far less, stop the bs. Their threats on quitting I'm calling them on
Bye bye kapiolani nurses
They are striking because Hawaii nurses get paid less than mainland's nurse. The thing is the nurses works alot of overtime but the nurses don't want more staff even though their reasoning is unsafe working condition due to lack of staff. So it's like do they want the overtime or more staff? I guess they want to get paid more and also keep the overtime hours.
they're striking because they wanted mandated patient ratios, and also they don't want the mandated overtime. nobody wants to be told to stay another 4 hours when they just worked 12 hours.
No they don’t. That’s a myth.
Lol they want the overtime and more staff.. like don't you think they deserve it or no? As long as people gotta pay for health care (it's a Billion dollar business btw) I can't see why the powers that be can't pay their employees what they deserve.
That's sickening and greedy, our health care is the highest in the nation, and will get even worse that that in the future, i say let them go, quit and leave. Cheaper and better to fly to the mainland for health care. That's totally outrageous, greedy . Beat it strikers, you cause high inflation. Hawaii is not the mainland, don't compare there to here.
@@stanmuneoka8117 false info.
Mahalo for clarity of information from either side of the negotiation table. Nuance in differing perspectives of a solution. It will be interesting to see how this plays out regarding differing perspectives of supply and demand. Safe numbers means having some agency and say and power over how many patients are assigned to a nurse. A high salary for 3 days a week under conditions of closely monitoring more patients than you can SAFELY handle is humanitarianly ....irresponsible and unrealistic principally. Please continue follow up to continue to further understand perspectives of healthcare and a caregiver from a humanistic and not purely a capitalistic perspective.
Wrong! 🫵🏽
I won’t explain you do due diligence 👎🏾
TIME TO WALK
if u do, u will
never work at the hospital again, we all have choices 😮
@@KaeoQuilit I walked during Covid. I have a better job now.
@@christycharitychambers1830 she can , just not at that hospital hello
@@christycharitychambers1830 Only those who haven't done it think we're overpaid.
@@pinoygal6232 it’s a tough job. I’m ER
I work at a hospital in Boston. We just went through this a week and a half ago. We vote to ratify next week. Hospital management doesn’t want to talk or listen. Stay strong and if they lock you out…good lick to them care for patients. Shows who they really care about and it’s not the patients or employees
A lock out is an excellent idea for these entitled strikers that want more pay and strike so often
Just because you chose no pension retirement or medical coverage, does not mean you have to respect yourself
@@lesliepropheter5040.. just because your insecure about being worthless doesn't mean you have the right to attack the hand that feeds doggy
Nah! We support employees no if ands or buts
What exactly, in detail, are the Employers prposals.
Wow 130K to 160K a year plus bonuses and work 3 days a week? And they are still want more? As a auto mechanic I was only getting at most maybe 1/4 that much and the work is 5 days a week. No wonder hospital bills are so expensive.
@@Insomniac-c7e that nursing pay doesn’t even show up on your medical bill, that’s how small it is compared to your other costs. The real costs are procedures, and equipment expense.
Seventeen percent of nurses quit their positions within the first year of their careers-a whopping 56 percent left within the first five years. The average career length for nurses is now nine years,
@@christycharitychambers1830 Welders get paid well.
Please don't compare a nurse to a mechanic...you don't understand that nurse salaries have nothing to do with patient bills
These statistics support that it nursing sucks
Go ahead ...they will get a better Job salary
Oh I better think twice 👀 now
That's sickening and greedy, our health care is the highest in the nation, and will get even worse that that in the future, i say let them go, quit and leave. Cheaper and better to fly to the mainland for health care. That's totally outrageous, greedy . Beat it strikers, you cause high inflation. Hawaii is not the mainland, don't compare there to here.
Let's get filipino nurses from the Philippines they'd gladly work for 1/3 of
The pay and be happy. Get rid of that agas trouble maker asap
@@christycharitychambers1830 well many carrers are the same and no different, what schools teach is as glamorous as the real jobs are not. Kids today think its easy job that schools project,, and cannot comprehend the rigious duties needed.
@@christycharitychambers1830 true but don't you think 130,000 to 160,000 and asking for raises is outrageous and greedy while we're all suffering, the janitors work harder, should we pay them 175,000. Get real
@@christycharitychambers1830 other careers have just about the same fallout statistics 😳 so what are you saying
@@christycharitychambers1830 let me let you in on something, the hospital is a business, if they pay you more, they'd have to cut more positions, this is how they basically balance the books. You're actually doing it to yourselves, hoodwinked and manipulated by the union. And you say they deserve fairness, NOT think again
An eager workforce is a desperate one, ones who bought into indentured servitude in terms of exponential student loans and debt. In the ecological economic landscape of a cost of living desert trap disguised as home and the place of the aloha spirit, and you find yourself in what Admiral Ackbar yelled out iconically in Star Wars: it's a trap.
Get ready to het Sued !!!!
What are the startup costs of hiring and entire workforce that is sustainable and durable for the long term? 💰💸Risk management and cost effectiveness of getting a fresh naive self sacrificing noble frontline workforce who is willing to ditch and leave the island cause they can find better conditions on the mainland and have no emotional ties to the aloha spirit anymore that has been thrown in their face via human resource cultures willing to sacrifice workforce quality of life for the legal baseline of keeping a hospital running?💸💰
$130,000-$160,000 a year to work only 3 days a week?
Lock em out!!
12-14hr shifts, (and sometimes longer), though
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom you don’t know how healthcare works. Sit this one out boss.
@@christycharitychambers1830
You’re full of 💩!!! If these nurses agreed to this package the hospital is offering, they would have been *THE HIGHEST PAID NURSES IN THE NATION!!!*
The average pay for an RN is $86,000. The top 3 paying states are California ($125,000), Oregon ($99,000) and HAWAI’I ($111,000). With this package, they would’ve made $130,000-$160,000, beating out the top paying state (California) by $40,000 a year, that’s an entire salary of many people earn on its own.
But they’re about to learn. They can go to the states and work harder for less. BYE!!
*LOCK THE DOOR!!!*
@@supreme5998
I know how locks work 😏.
@@christycharitychambers1830
Hawai’i is in the top 3 best paying in the nation, stop BSing. If these greedy nurses took the hospitals offer, Hawai’i would have been the #1 top paying, beating out the current #1 top paying by $40,000… that’s an entire salary for some people.
Sit down and 🤐.
So fired
-but you can't get unemployment for lockout
My comment regarding leaving a legacy was deleted
What’s the definition of a lockout?
fired without unemployment benefits
Enabling burnout for the workforce. Cost of living desperation does not warrant marrying terms of workplace implicit abuse of power and devaluing human safety in terms of money.👏👏👏 Those who invested in the long term relationship know the bad side of all partners. This is discarding behavior. Words of value to not align and match behaviors of power play. Those who commit too early to marriage based on money are locked into the very institutionalized prison of swallowing the organization dysfunctional abuse. 🚩🚩🚩Organizational behavior that signals your disposability and your loss of power to say how you can safely work is a RED FLAG in any relationship. Frameworks apply in many contexts. Watch this redflag relationship play out. 🚩🚩🚩Leave for your own sanity and dignity.🚩🚩🚩
Cost of living skyrocketing is on the Democrats, not the Hospital
You need nurses, DON'T LOCK THEM OUT...........THEY WILL LEAVE THE STATE!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are not enough nurses as it is!!!!!!!!! Provide better patient care and take care of the nurses.
Awww! killers on strike😮
Many of us lost our jobs because we wouldn't comply with that.
We didn't take it and I've never given it.
@@pinoygal6232 yes not all of you. I'm srry
@@goorant No problem. I know how you feel. I tried to warn everyone around me. The propaganda was/ is overwhelming.
"Western Medicine has made such great strides, that-there is hardly a healthy person to be found"
-Aldous Leonard Huxley
Good idea and lock them arrogant greedy nurses out, hawaii has the highest health care already, and its only going to get worse if they get their raises.
They get paid $160,000/yr working 3 day work week.
They don't get paid this and although it is proposed to settle the strike they won't get paid this is they settle... you are just another non health care worker who doesn't get it
@@christycharitychambers1830 this is not about that you compare to other states, are you kidding , it's about inflation of health costs in hawaii and not greedy nurses, what you cannot live comfortably on 130,00 to 160,000. This is about hawaiis future for local people who are suffering, stop thinking just about yourselves. Shame on you 😕 omg
@@christycharitychambers1830 nurses say they care for the patients right, that's bs and hogwash, if they cared they wouldn't be asking for over the top absorbent raises, you want hawaii local people to suffer and die because they cannot afford health care? The unions have put you in this position by high overpaid salaries, the hospital had to compensate by adjusting staffing, it's a business you know. How do these nurses sleep at night knowing people already cannot afford health care and they are asking for raises and staffing shortages which they have and the unions created? Get real bye bye kapiolani nurses, hire Phillipines nurses from the Phillipines and they would gladly work for one forth of your pay and have full staff
Greedy? You have no idea how hard it is to work as a nurse.
So they are going to pay MORE? Because they don't want to pay the regular staff more? Is that management? And a LOCK OUT helps?
they don't want to set mandatory ratios
@supreme5998 Thanks, yea, management! Watch who they blame when...... I bet not staffing ratios! Lockouts, no doubt!
yes a lockout helps, it's a 2 way street 😮