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The one you bought before was the Yearling Leather version, RMW has some lower quality stuff like the one in the video, but they still make great leather products if you know what to look for. Their Kangaroo Leather range for example are really great.
35 years ago, i was mustering cattle out Mt Isa way... i was caught in a fire and badly burnt my legs, my jeans and boots burnt away except that the leather soles didnt. This protected the bottoms of my feet (only bit of my legs that didnt end up bbq'd). This meant i could learn to walk again properly... so a big thumbs up to old school RMs.
the new ones have the leather sole aswell the youtuber just didnt get the one with a leather sole even though theyre the same price he bought the comfort one, where they still sell the regular craftsman on the rm williams site
Like most quality goods, and brand names from the past, when they are purchased by a group, solely motivated by profit, at the expense of quality, you are bound to buy expensive crap. Remember, you can't make a silk purse, out of a sows ear. Australian translation: You can't make strawberry jam, out of pig shit!
Used to work as a cobbler repairing these, they've been in decline for 10 years getting worse and worse, the leather doesn't hold up doing any sort of work outside of needing to look nice (no matter the boot), I know people who bought a pair 30 years ago who've abused the crap out of them for that long and new ones maybe lasting a few months. Love from Australia and keep up the good work
Thanks for confirming my suspicions. I have one pair (albeit in suede) that are near 40 years old and still going strong, but only worn occasionally. My dailys," Craftsmen" in black wear out in ever shortening periods. The leather cracks and splits in just a few years.....and I look after them
The Craftsmen is a dress boot, the Gardner is a work boot. I have a pair of Gardner’s that I got 3 years ago, given them a pretty rough go and they’re still holding up.
Just like Blundstone, I used to buy them up until the manufacturing left Tasmania, after that they just shite, the soles wear out a lot quicker, the sole separation on the sides, inersole material lasts only weeks, they are just a shit boot relying on past quality that dose not exist anymore, but the purchase price has continued to be in the premium range. I was that disappointed in my last pair, I emailed the company voicing my disappointment in a gentlemanly way, but was sent a reply basically telling me to tell someone who cares! Not even a acknowledgment that they would look into it. I switched to Rossi Endura, vastly superior boot 3 years of hard abuse and they still look like lasting for a while longer yet at least. I take care of my boots with regular cleaning and application of conditioner and dubbin, Not sure where the Rossi’s were made, but I’ll never buy another pair of Blundstone imposters again, I used to really like like them once, an Australian icon that’s become a shadow of its former reputation. Rossi make a boot similar to the RM Williams, off memory they are called the Kidman, if I want a flash pair of riding boots, that’s where my cash will be going.
Paid $600 thinking they would last 10+ years because I'm a heavy user, walking at least 10k steps everyday. My RMs starting cracking and holes appeared in the toe box. These were unfixable and after a total lifetime of only 18 months, I had to throw them out! Granted, I did do the Spit to Manly walk in them which in hindsight was not a good idea. But still, I was expecting the utmost quality for $600. Waste of money. I will never buy RM Williams ever again. I liked the design and leather feel, quick to put on and works with any clothes. After recovering my losses, I will invest in a much better boot. Just haven't found one yet.
@@ShoeysAdventures our cars are some of the best in the market even today? why do you think you still see 1990 falcons and commodores on the road everyday 35 years after coming off the production line?!?! Because they were built to last.
As an Australian, no hurt feelings here! I’ve always thought that RM Williams boots are for politicians and business wankers who want to cosplay as people who work with their hands.
I agree with the comments from my fellow Australians However, I am also guilty as charged 😳- been wearing RMs since I was 21 (sadly 42 years ago), especially during my younger, inner city more misspent days. I have 4 pairs ATM, thou only two are on active duty.
As an older Aussie (70) and an owner of RM’s since I was a kid (still own 3 pairs between 25-15 yrs old, all in good condition) I’m glad you’re calling this out because it’s a grab for cash based on a superb brand reputation, rather than living up to or enhancing the brand by sticking with quality. I hope Hugh Jackman and other brand management pick up on this quickly, as nothing tanks a brand more than false value.
He is just comparing two different type of soles and leathers. Not fair comparisons,I have mine for 3 years now worn almost every day,took them to Europe last year also waking up to 20 km a day,this sole that he cut off has sneaker like comfort
R.M. Williams: _The essential wear for when a PM visits a country town, indigenous outpost or wants to put out the feels that he is an "everyday blue collar bloke"_
were as if they really wanted to look like the average real rural worker they would be wearing Mongrel boots, Bisley Industrial fluro shirt and pants and some corporate branded boonie hat with a neck flap... working main roads in IT they used to kit us up with this sort of stuff for regional visits ... farkinhell did we get sh*t for coming in off the plane in all fresh and clean out of the bag kit while their kit was so red dirt and battered like they had just come off set from Mad Max Fury Road
RM Williams WAS an Aussie Icon. One of those companies that rose on the support of working class Australia over a century and turned around and effed them over. I and many like me would not purchase RM Williams products through principle and perhaps even spite, alone.
RM.Williams is now owned by one of Australia's mining billionaires. He sprouts all sorts of patriotic garbage but (1) rips off Aboriginal land holders, (2) doesn't employ Australian seafarers on his ships, and (3) is now running down an iconic Australian brand.... Thanks for the enlightening video.
They cut corners because their owner demand ever-growing profit margins and when the CEO says it’s not possible without sacrificing quality, they replace him with someone who thinks he can.
@@ThePoliceDonut or just buy the Craftsman line, which he gave a good review years ago. Mind you, this line of boots uses solid leather throughout and can be slippery. The Comfort Craftsman line was created to address the weather and wearability, but you can't make everyone happy.
@@Hitman-ds1ei If you watched at least 2 minutes of this video before jumping to the comments section, you'd have learned and confirmed that it was the case, after being owned by LV, which set their first nail for their decline.
Not really Louis Vuitton fault, they have spent like 1/2 a million after the old owners refused to address health and safety issues at the salisbury factory and a few people got injuried and one nearly died. most people interstate are out of the loop about the shit that went down at the factory.
@@Hitman-ds1ei Tattarang took ownership in 2020 I never liked their boots and were over priced the factory was always going broke always in the news here in Adelaide
100% agree - Rossi boots in the 1990’s were stuck in a timewarp from decades earlier, and though they weren’t the trendiest looking, they were by far the most comfortable and durable.
I have watched the video and have been a subscriber of Rose Anvil for a few years now. I appreciate the value of natural products in footware, and robust construction. I feel the assessment should be qualified. The comfort soled boots in the RM range has a foam inner synthetics in its sole construction, and always have I believe. Comfort soled boots are a hybrid boot designed for wearing all day. The comfort craftsman is an “office” or casual boot. It would be interesting, and a fairer assessment, to directly compare the leather soled traditional models from pre 2000s to today. FYI: I have the same style and colour (Caramel Pull Up) as is cut up. Plus also other variations of comfort soles. I also own many leather soled other models including pre. 2010 RM boots when they were locally owned.
My dad owned a pair of this he bought in early 2000-ish and now after he passed away, I wear them after a resole and goring repair. The past version is very comfortable and built like a tank.
I’ve been wearing RMs for 40 years. So I’m more than qualified to comment. I’m sorry to say the quality has fallen off. The stitching used to be sublime. My last pair (and probably my ‘last pair’) have really average stitching and looks like a first week apprenticeship job. The quality of workmanship is just not there with imperfect joins that suggest a cobbler at work that just did not give a crap that day. Finally, the leather suede is so thin and I know it won’t last the distance. Certainly NOT a boot that should cost the $700 I paid for it. I do regret dropping the price in the shop that day of purchase - should have walked out to look elsewhere as the lack of quality bugs me every day I wear them. I now use them to ride my motorbike as I just don’t care for them anymore. Sad, another iconic Australian brand going down the toilet for the sake of short term profits and thinking.
I’m now 70 and bought RMW boots from when I was 16, the last I bought was about 15yrs ago, when I changed to Ariat due to price and have found Ariat a far better boot at a cheaper price. RMW is nothing like it use to be and never will be again
i bought a pair 7 years ago, and a pair 6 months ago. Both are beautiful pairs of boots and have maintain their quality and only seem to get more and more comfortable. I am from Adelaide, Australia where the company was founded and contrary to most other places, working class people continue to wear them here despite the cost, this is due to $500 for a pair thatll last you a decade is clearly a sound investment. Beautiful boots.
I bought a pair of Craftsman boots three years ago. Throughout I used the recommended leather conditioner. One boot developed cracks on the side of the toe a few inches back from the tip on the inside. A flex point. When I had them re-soled, they were nearly written off. The retailer said that it probably got wet and subsequent heating caused the cracking. They were bought as a long-term purchase and I'm very disappointed. I thought they were designed for riding horses, mine have barely been outdoors and still failed.
For those who aren't in Aus, I can't overstate how ubiquitous these are. I work in the Melbourne CBD and basically every single person you see in office outfits on a week day is wearing RM boots. It's such a shame the quality has dropped off, the original boots were considered incredible value and they were cheaper back then as well as being better. I never got around to buying a pair and I guess I won't now. I'm hoping this gradually opens the door to smaller local brands taking more of the market. Last year I got a pair of custom ordered Gordon Classic Boots from Wootten for $820 AUD and they are spectacular, would be great if they got a video on this channel. They recently closed their Melbourne outlet though which is super unfortunate.
I got fitted at the Melbourne storefront right before they closed. It was a great experience, but Ballarat's not that big a trip. Totally agree that Wes should get a pair.
Bought my rms in 2016 and wore them nearly every day for the first three years. I wear them often still and the leather is perfect and the sole is still going. Strong. Couldn't say the same for my Thursdays boots and shoes I own. I think the black leather version is better quality
Back in the day Aboriginals were the back bone of beef industry.. the Aboriginal stockman would have been the biggest part of RMs business. Hawker vans would do runs out the the cattle stations and sell all RMs products to all the stockman. I often poke my nose in Rm stores and walk strait out.. prices are rediculous and the staff look down there noses at you as though you shouldnt be there.. its disgusting to think they built an empire from the old stockman but if a stockman was to walk into there shop today they would want security to search them
as a country boy who now works city office I find the city RM stores all a bit cringe but at least my local one no longer has all the fake stone walls and shop prop cooper barrels for display stands
@@user-bo5dl9hr8k I left school at year 7 started working on cattle stations and droving cattle accross Australia.. adjectives and nouns were not considered
100% agree. They have terrible in store service, not just for “stockman” but also city mice like me… they simply direct you to buy online so they can stand about doing stuff-all.
I bought the comfort craftsman yearling leather in 2017, (can only imagine it's worse now), the boots are great and comfortable, however, I needed the rubber heels replaced as they had worn out. Took it to their flagship store, 'we send it to our Adelaide factory' blah blah blah. A few weeks later I pick them up and they have dripped boot glue on the elastic. I told them they need to replace the elastic, they said it won't match as the elastics on the opposite side and pair are faded. I said, 'so you will need to replace all of them, it's not my fault there is glue on it'. Long story short another two weeks later, i get the boots back. Wear them for a day, i feel pain in my heel, like i've stepped on glass. Not sure what it was, once I got home, i took my boots off and i see blood inside the shoe, cut open sock and cut in my foot. I check the inside of the boot, theres no glass, I run my along the sole, and the nails from the new heel block had come through the sole!!! Needless to say I wasn't happy. I sent them an email, spoke to their production manager, who, to his credit said it wasn't acceptable and told me to pick a replacement pair from a store at no cost and to take that current paid to a cobbler to get fixed.
My experience recently has been that the staff who have been in the factory for a very long time are deeply embarrassed by what is happening. Many are just bidding their time to retirement is my understanding. These days it appears they are DEI hiring!
@@kurjan1 I had a trial run working in the distribution and online despatch out at Salisbury; I didn't see diversity hires but I did see disability hires (was nearly one myself due to dialysis at the time, but die to dialysis the hours didn't work). Not many oldies though, so maybe they got let go for cheaper labour.
Aussie here. I started wearing RMs when I was at an agricultural high school in the 1960s. They were a great boot in those days. By the early 2000s I actually noticed that the leather was getting thinner and it would craze and crack in the toe flex area. I persisted for a bit but I and my family stopped buying about 20 years ago. We haven't gone back - I think the rot set in long before the private equity cockroaches got involved. It became a vanity product with a gouge price.
In their defence, I think these boots are a decent buy for the target Aussie market of white-collar city workers (which is why they're so popular). They are cheaper in Australia, where American and English-made boots typically retail 20% higher than what you enjoy in the northern hem. Choice is limited here in brands, and online shipping is expensive (and forget about free returns). Australian wages are some of the highest in the world (particularly minimum wage), and the boot is honestly quite reasonably priced considering. The sneaker sole is very comfortable and suitable for people who want a leather shoe that looks good with smart casual attire and holds up in wet or muddy weather (it doesnt snow here), taking the kids to the footy etc. Its not meant for mustering horses or digging mines like the rm williams of old.
As an Australian boot aficionado, of course this means war No I've been thinking for YEARS that Australia needs more options for welted footwear. But 'boots' and 'RM Williams' are interchangeable terms in Australia, the task would first be to convince people that non-RM Williams boots exist and to teach them why Goodyear welts are cool. It's on my list for world domination, convincing my homeland to buy other boot brands!
Goodyear welts are like alien technology here. I bought a pair of cheap Thorogood work boots and people compliment me on them like they're luxury. Good quality lace ups just don't exist locally.
Perhaps to boot aficionados, RM and boots are interchangeable. But the only people I've seen wearing them are doctors and politicians. I live in the outback. No one wears them. Even for dress events. They're essentially dress shoes for wealthy city people.
Yeah agree with all the above comments. It's just such a shame for those who want to get into the shoe / boot world in Aus. I have mates that would ask me for recommendations, I used to say RM is good for Aussie made product, but now I probably need to direct them to the likes of Bridlen, CNES for the cost concious, or TLB for the mid level spenders, or the indos/Chinese for the handwelting nerds. Sigh. Doesn't affect me knowing that RM is shit now because I don't buy them, but it is a blow.
As an Aussie, used to have two pairs of RM. Now just one. Felt the quality going down, their repair quality also poor; damaged my boots. So, I Got two pairs of Grant Stone and a Red Wing Iron ranger - quality is way better than RM.
Oh I could name like 15 amazing Nicolas Cage movies. Hell, he can get an outright terrible script and improve the movie immensely by giving it a memorable performance. People calling him a bad actor are deluded and haven't seen enough Nicolas Cage movies. (I've seen all of them, he's my favourite actor)
I’ve worn RMs nearly every day for 20 years. The last pair I bought was about 2016 and they’ve held up remarkably well. Which I’d expect for the $600 price tag. Mine have the “oil proof sole” which is synthetic and amazingly it has stayed intact despite being in rain, hot concrete, dust, sand, mud etc. The elastic is still tight and stitching is excellent. Having watched this review, I think I might’ve got a pre-2014 model. I think I’ll try Rossi boots next and see if Gina has instilled god craftsmanship and quality materials to that company.
I would also like a see a pair of Baxter's cut in half. Got an old Made in Australia pair which I love. I don't think they're made here anymore, but still Aussie owned and offers a much cheaper alternative to RMs ($350 aud instead of $699 lol), also looks very comparably built.
Have had my eye on a pair of Wootens for a while now but was struggling to justify the price however after seeing this might need to think again, would be happy to pay a bit extra for a longer lasting product.
This is the video alot of Aussies and cobblers here have been waiting for. We hoped after 'Twiggy' brought it back into Australian hands the quality would have come back. A lot of posts on Reddit over the years from fans, disappointed customers and cobblers have all pointed to this decline in quality. But nothing comprehensively embarrassing like this. Hopefully this video goes viral & gets Tattarang's attention. I only say this as a disappointed Aussie and a fan of RM Williams, whilst I slide on my Chocolate Suede Craftsman 🇦🇺
I don't think this video is remotely comprehensive though? Comparing a Classic to a Comfort and being surprised by the amount of leather used? Comparing aniline thickness to full grain yearling? It's apples and oranges despite a likely decline. Needs to compare a 2024 classic yearling boot with the 2020 pair he has. Comforts have padded insoles for a reason and the rubber soles are far better than leather in my experience.
@@japesssit doesn't matter what boots he compares. These are $600USD/$650 AUD boots. The comfort craftsmen and classic are the same price. And for that money, 1.3mm uppers is not acceptable. Not even Thursdays uppers are that thin. I have had both rubber and leather soles. I prefer the leather soles. More breathable and supportive, they just not that durable. I would also like to add this video has gotten a lot of attention, with heaps of references on social media, and the odd media outlet article on it.
Australians are not accustomed to complaining, and big companies know that. When companies (and the government) start to hear a bit of complaining, they shut it down, claiming it is 'un-Australian.' This is why iconic brands like R.M. Williams can lower their quality without fearing backlash. They will do this for a couple of years to increase profits and then possibly return to more durable products. It's a shame.
Thing is we're also not stupid. So when something drops in perception and quality we walk away. Though the sheeple effect of your corporate RM wearer will run on for a while before people get stung by lesser quality faults.
@@RonnieStanley-tc6vi The non-Comfort craftsman seemed to be better constructed, at least the one from a few years back, for the same price as the Comfort Craftsman. It'd be interesting to see if the extra money just buys the "Signature" tag or if there are actually differences.
As an expat Englishman who has called Oz my home for a long time. I am very pro Australian made. I was disappointed in the quality of the materials shown within the boot. I have owned RM's boots and loved them. Thanks for the review, Cheers
I bought a pair of their 'Gardener' boots from their Bond Street store in London UK about a year ago, I had only worn them once, and the second time of wearing them the heel fell off of one of the boots! on closer inspection I found the heels were only glued on, no nails at all, I took them back to the store for a refund and was told they must have missed out on the nails in the construction process and they had never seen this before.
You shouldn't be comparing the Comfort Craftsman to the regular Craftsman, that's why there is less leather and more foam. But you are right that the Comfort Craftsman is not worth the price, but I have a pair of full leather Craftmans from 2021 that still have the 1.8mm thick leather and they are worth the ~$500, nothing in the $200 price range remotely compares to the quality of them.
"You shouldn't be comparing the Comfort Craftsman to the regular Craftsman, " And why the fuk not ? they are the exact same price and are sold as being of equal quality. Guess this is why you don't have a popular youtube channel
I was thinking the same thing. Not sure what the prices are for each, but when doing a comparison test it’s pretty reasonable to expect the same boots to be compared. The “comfort” is made to be comfortable immediately so that might be why it has thinner leather. It we’ll never know for sure until a like for like test is actually performed. And for anyone wants to dismiss my comment as a fan boy - I have only owned one pair of RMs and I really dislike them. Borderline hate them. So they are so stiff, so uncomfortable. But I can’t bring myself to get rid of them because of how much they cost. The irony is I’d probably pay the same price for thinner leather based on my experience with the super thick and stiff leather.
@@alex98b627 Not filling those nail holes with hot cork screams budget to me. I have 3 pairs and I'm worried that if I get new heels and soles they will be lower quality than my used ones. Same with the belts, I have heard they are no good now which sucks so much cos they are the best belts ever.
@@alex98b627 Push through the initial discomfort and they become quite a comfortable boot. I had a similar thing happen. Now I wear them everyday with no issue
Love your channel. The world needs more in depth, totally objective product reviews like this to protect companies producing quality product and expose those purporting to be quality.
When I was a kid (long time ago), RM Williams were made to last forever. They actually offered a lifetime warranty on everything but the sole. I remember in the 80's my dad took back a 30 year old pair he had issues with and RM Williams replaced them for nothing.
I’m 52 and I am on my third pair. Only one pair had to be thrown away. Current pair I have owned since around 2012 and I have replaced the soles once. I suspected the quality was sliding, and you have confirmed that. Excellent video, thanks for posting.
I'm also Australian. 66 years old with two pairs of the round toe high stacked leather heels. Basically the Santa Fé with round toe. A brown pair I've had since the mid 70s and black since early-mid 80s. Had them re heeled and gussets replaced several times. They're the most comfortable boots (footwear) I've ever worn and they still look amazing. Haven't worn them for years but I reckon I'll get them out after watching this. It's a bloody screaming shame where RMs are at now🤦♂️😔
I hope this review kicks their butt back into the quality. We have bugger all manufacturing and legitimately Australian made products worthy to be proud of these days. "They've" sold our Cars, Vegemite, world class shock absorbers, quality fruit, quality building construction etc etc. So damn sad! Still love you Australia!
There's not a lot of options when other countries can made decent products much cheaper. I for one am happy with the comparatively high wages Aussies get, especially these days. The loss of manufacturing here actually was related to the surplus of cheap overseas-made stuff. The balance-of-payments stopped being an issue decades ago. International trade and the global economy means we can buy TVs, phones, stereos, dress shirts, etc., much cheaper than if we made them. For widespread Aussie boot-making to continue, we'd have had to resort to the textiles trade of old, underpaid workers driven to exhaustion & paid a pittance, while their employers suck from the government teat of tariffs. Near the end, textile makers were notorious for exploiting migrant women, given unfairly large amounts of piecework in sweatshops, being stood over by thugs. If that's what it took to produce affordable footwear, I'm happy to see the end of manufacturing here. I'm sad to see iconic brands die or head overseas, but I feel we have it pretty good, consumer-wise.
Just to clarify that the price of RM William boots here in Australia is $649 AUD which equates to about $425 USD. - not sure if they’re jacking up the price for US hence why you’re referencing $589 in the video? 7:31
@@jannis8133 He's not disputing that. He is rightly pointing out that, in Australia the boots don't cost nearly so much. Check out the pricing on their website - AUD$649 for the Comfort Craftsman. The American pricing is quite out of whack. But still an interesting video. And i'd agree the boots are surely still overpriced in Oz.
Old Pommie bloke here. I am a lifelong fan of properly built shoes, got some nice Northampton made ones. So anyway, I drank the CoolAid and stumped up about £400, 5or6 years ago for a pair of black RMW’s. Disappointing to learn they are not all that… To be fair, they are comfortable and still look great, but I’ve only been wearing them for “best”. At my age that’s mostly funerals! Lol! Not ready to see how they stand up to yard work etc. just yet, so far I’ve managed not to scuff ‘em , or worse still overstretch the elastic sides. Maybe they’ll hold up long enough for my own funeral! 👍
Not surprised! Purchased the Gardener in 2021. Sole cracked in less than a year, along the upper chevron shapes (under the ball of the foot) from gentle, daily urban use. Replacement soles cracked again within 10 months, in the same spot. After a second replacement, they went into storage and I’m now on team Blundstone-a far better boot than I’d been led to believe.
I'm an Aussie - And Thank you so much for clarifying my suspicions. My old RMs were 10yrs old and had to get a new pair about 2yrs ago (due to some drunken escapades) and they definitely did not feel right! - I thought, "Maybe I just needed to break them in" but they still did not feel the same under-foot. Mate - You're Gold! Cheers!
They're different boots, he bought the Rubber soled "comfort" boots and compared them to the same leather soled boots that they still sell. It's a misleading video. He also paid way too much for them, both styles still sell for $600 dollerydoos, can look it up right now on their website. He's buying them in the US for $300 more and complaining about the price.
It wouldn’t be, as Australians have been saying for years. That’s the whole reason this video exists in the first place, because people keep saying the boots have seriously dropped in quality
@@G__U__T__Sthe problem with this video tho is that he didn't compare the same boots, therefore it's difficult to compare the quality of the construction. If he was comparing value based on the quality of construction then this video would make more sense.
Many years ago (at least 10) I won a RM Williams gift voucher for $250. I went to the shop 3 times and eventually bought the Chinchilla boots and paid the extra $300ish dollars. The most expensive clothing item I’ve ever bought. They are still amazingly comfortable & only get worn to anniversaries, weddings & funerals because I treat them like they are gold. I’m a sparky. There is no way I’m wearing these things to work. I go through 2 pairs of normal $200+ work boots a year because I wear them 15 to 18 hours a day!! I still have my 22 year old Doc Marten 8 hole boots. I wore for 2 years at school, part time pizza job, got married in them, still wore them last weekend to see a band in a pub. I’m pretty sure they don’t make them like they used to but they are bloody hard to beat.
Though they look mostly identical there’s a big difference between the two ranges of boot when it comes to the sole The craftsman have a traditional full leather sole The comfort craftsman has a hybrid leather & rubber sole with foam insert. To make it a more comfortable boot. I enjoy both boots. Both wear really well & are durable. When worn all day I lean more towards the comfort craftsman. The sole is less slippery and the insole more comfortable I agree at this price point the insole should be leather but if that’s what you want then I guess buy the full leather sole version The real crime here is that you pay $589 USD for them here in Australia they run $650 AUD which is around $430 USD Still not cheap/amazing value for money but they are a good looking dress boot with heritage Excellent video! Loved the intro and history you really did your homework thank you 🙏
This video doesn't seem that logical. You're comparing 2 different RM Williams boots. The comfort craftsman is constructed in a completely different way to the craftsman. I do agree that the comfort craftsman is far too expensive for what it is (especially at the ridiculous price in the US), but I just don't think this video is framed in a useful way.
Yep. 100% this. If this was the new leather soled vs the old leather soled, then it would make sense. He's comparing a Ferrari to a Fiat. Just because they're made by the same people, doesn't mean they're the same product.
The sad thing is this is the way of all brands now, someone builds up a value proposition business and it grows organically through being a superb quality and very good value product....Venture capitalists see an opportunity to milk the brand by slashing quality to bottom out costs while keeping the price high or even increasing it, they offer the owners a huge price to exit ....The brand then slowly declines as the reputation is ruined, but by this time the vultures have picked the business clean of assets and cash and move on to the next.
Keep in mind, Australian manufacturing has become so expensive that manufacturers are forced to cheap out on quality instead of cheaping out on manual labor. To give you an example, I work in a fabrication shop here in Aus, our charge out rate in $150/hr, that covers the on the floor workers and overheads. Now imagine how expensive these boots are to make for an Australian company, think again about the manufacturing of a car or a boat when charging out at such high rates. These $600 boots are equivalent to 4 hours of charge out at my workshop. Now of course, production lines and automation are the only thing that can help reduce the prices of items manufactured in Australia. However, the Australian government has given zero f**ks toward manufacturing for so long that manufacturing is almost dead. We don't have cheap labor like China, and we no longer have the skilled people, or economy to support automation like the US does. We are stuck in a loop of manufacturing being so expensive that, we are forced to choose to lower the quality of our products, or get priced out completely by overseas competitors. Now I'm not justifying this, I'm in complete agreement that RM's should be ashamed for this standard of quality for a $600 boot. its horrendous. But the Australian government should be more ashamed for not incentivizing and not allowing manufacturing to blossom here in Aus. It's incredible sad to see a country with sooooo many resources and soooo much space, almost perfect for large scale, low cost manufacturing, to fail so spectacularly.
@@Peterviegal The only words I used outside of the Australian spelling convention is "Labor" instead of "Labour". But look mate, if that's all you get out of my comment, so be it.
@@hambo6713 Too right, it's even more tragic considering how much of a fundimental lead we had given our space and resources. Unfortunately though, we have taken the easy way out and export all of resources instead. If the mining tap was switched off tomorrow, Australia's economy would cease to exist. What a terrible position to be in!
$300 paid 20 years ago is probably comparable to their Signature Craftsman in 2024, that ones some serious damage at $1059. It even states leather insole, as a selling feature.
Can't thankyou enough for this video. I'm an aussie and was about to invest in a so called quality RM Williams boot and no Can't justify it. Thankyou again for your content
Go try some on. A) the ones he just reviewed is by design lighter and thinner with composite sole to be comfortable. B) the leather sole craftsmans or other boots are different. I’ll personally vouch the comfort of their boots, just make sure you get the right size.
Love my RM’s have many pairs and wear them daily. I most like that they can be sent back for repair. Just had 2 pairs resolved and relined. Feel like new, look and feel like my worn in boots.
Yep… used to be a work boot, now a dress boot only. For riding/working if you want elastic sides I’d use mongrel or red back. For dressing up maybe RMs but yeah, the price! The mongrel riding boot looks ok.
I’ve been wanted to buy a pair of R.M for at least 5 years now. My plan was to buy them straight from the store when I’m visiting Australia, and making the whole thing a special memory. Welp fuck me and my dream I guess, I’ve never been this sad to see the quality drop of a brand
@@liamkelly5850 Yeah but do I really want to risk 600 bucks for a brand that has been confirmed to be cutting corners on one of their boots? I’m not sure yet, I might need some time to think about it, maybe look for a similar boots that are actually good quality at the same time
I think this review was a little unreasonable. And I bet every upmarket shoe & boot made in the last 40 years has had a huge mark-up. Why be disappointed? At least head into a RMW store and have a look. Years ago I would have suggested Blundstones, which at the time were half the price of Doc Martens and just as hard-wearing. Now they're no longer made in Australia.
Nice to see an honest review. I was disappointed by the origin review because you defended some of these features when you were sponsored by origin. I love origin but I was greatly disappointed by their boots
I’m Aussie it’s all good 👍 appreciate the honesty in your review! Very sad to see a much loved icon disappearing for the sake of corporate greed n profits! Thanks mate take care god bless!
What you haven't mentioned is that the expensive RM Williams boots are made from very durable kangaroo leather - not steer leather. Kangaroo leather is much thinner. All the best leather jackets are made from kangaroo leather also. On another note, did you know that RM Williams and Akubra and now owned by Andrew 'Twiggy' Forrest and his wife. Akubra also import their rabbit felt from Poland and Russia. On yet another note, did you know that mining magnate Gina Rhinehart also owns Driza-Bone now??
This is a very interesting take. I have whites, nicks, Aldens, Crockett & Jones, Vibergs. I love them all very dearly and some of these, for sure are considered tanks/well made. However, absolutely none of them can compete with my RM Williams Comfort Craftman boots when it comes to comfort/easy to wear. I can wear them all day at a time without feet soreness. I do want to see how long it actually lasts, along with re-sole-ability.
@@JH-wn1ko you can get them relasted at the factory, which was a relief considering I don’t expect the foam insole to last as long as leather. They’re overpriced (so are the leather ones), but they last a long time still.
@@childofthe60s100 not sure why my response to you got deleted. However - just to reiterate. It’s not about bragging about who got more expensive shoes. Bc I could care less about that. We all know that this community thrives on wanting the best made shoes/boots and it comes with a price tag. I’ve worked on this collection over a decade and I admit that it has become an addiction/obsession. I was just making a point that these boots are just very easy to wear and the comfort has been amazing even though when comparing materials used, they are absolutely lacking and yes, it is overpriced. If anything, let me make an assumption as well - it seems to me that it’s you that’s overloaded with time, like to attack everyone’s comments due to your own insecurities and have nothing better to do with it? Lastly - Rose Anvil’s content is great at sharing knowledge and I appreciate what he does. But here you are, having a problem with everyone’s comments. Here’s a lesson for you…If you have a problem with everyone…maybe it’s you that’s the problem 😉 perspectives…
Don’t apologise to us Aussies, we’re really glad you took a good look at RMs and let us know what’s really going on. They have taken a treasured emblem of outback Australia and sold it up the river. Seems to be happening to a lot of the excellent old brands we used to love and trust. Akubra hats have also been sold to a big corporate company, just waiting for their quality to drop through the floor too now.
Just to be fair, comparing the Craftsman to the Comfort Craftsman is a bit apples and oranges. I could be wrong, but I think the Comfort Craftsman, the new one you just cut apart is supposed to have more synthetic, comfortable components inside. If you want something more traditional, you go with the regular Craftsman, which I believe is the one you cut up a while ago.
@michaeldaly7884 My late paternal grandfather bought his boots in the early seventies one for the farm another for town and wore them until he passed away in twenty ten but if still around he sure as hell would find another brand.
I'm pretty sure RM Williams still makes full-leather boots, they're just listed as "Craftsman" and not "Comfort Craftsman". You purposely bought the one with synthetic materials and got mad at it for having synthetics. Besides, plenty of people on reddit have theirs for years and have no complaints.
I mean they literally advertise this as having a foam insole. You can also get the boot rebuilt by them when the insole goes bad. You could also just buy the equally overpriced version with the leather insole.
I’m Australian. This is complete click bait. Why would you compare the normal model to the comfort model and make out as if you are comparing the old version to the new version? You can still buy the standard version of the boots. This is the comfort version that is built for more comfort. The craftsman boot comes in 3 versions. standard, comfort and dynamic flex version which is a mix of rubber and leather sole. You should compare the same models! You know what you did here My best mate prefers the comfort models and I prefer the standard models. We both have the exact same boots but he always goes for the comfort version. People check the craftsmen boots section on the RMWilliams australia site and you will see what I mean. This is extremely misleading.
There have been three occasions when I went in to an RM Williams shop to buy a pair of boots. One the service was so bad I went down the road and bought a pair of Italian boots, which I still have after 20 years. The second they were so obviously ignorant about the product and range and living on the reputation. I showed a bootmaker in Hoi An in Vietnam a picture of the pair I was after and they made them for me. The third time I was just blown away by the outragious cost of the boots that are simply not worth it anymore. As an Aussie, I am very sad about that. Great video by the way.
Agreed with your review for comfort line, but I think the Craftsman line is still leather insole and I don’t think it changed much from your previous review 4 years ago.. Curious to see what other lines are like, would you consider cutting more boots from different lines of R.M. Williams ?
My cousin Yung Suk Dong is a factory worker in China. They produce RM Williams copy boots called RM Wangies. He said the quality is so low they were forced to used dead insects and animal droppings into a cheap composite material that they marketed as eco friendly to the people in California.
I appreciate this vid. I am from Adelaide and was going to head to the factory and buy a pair, but I think I’ll just stick with my $150 pair of Colorado’s every year.
This video feels very over exaggerated. As if the guy has something personal going on with R M Williams. I have 2 pairs and they are amazing. I have friends and colleagues that have pairs and they love them. Of course the comfort sole won’t be as good as the leather sole. It’s in the name. It’s all about comfort. There has to be materials like foam. The most comfortable shoes in the world are sneakers and they r all foam. I think they are worth it. And for all the people who say the leather cracks. Of course it will if u don’t take care of it. It’s leather!! It must be cleaned and conditioned every now and then. Depending on how often u wear them. Useless video full of useless comments
Cool to see rm’s getting opened up. FYI - The shank is not metal to make them airport friendly. Also, don’t let this video put you off RM completely - the dynamic flex version of the craftsman is much better quality for the same price.
I have bought three pairs of RMs from charity stores over the years for a combined price of $18 (AU). I guess i managed to pay a lot less and get the better quality (older) ones at the same time! All three are still amazing.
RM Williams is absolutely horrible. I have two pairs, both their Yearling, both sucks. Mine were bought about 20 years ago, so poor quality started longer than you suggest. The leather crack. Really zero durability. And the last is not comfortable. I have the same Chelsea boots by John Lobb…way superior in every way.
The comfort model is “softened” a lot. Your best bet if you but this brand is the original craftsman. It has the veg tan insole + thicker leather. Dam this National treasure hate is uncalled for!!
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Hey man, they’re only $600 Aud. That’s like $350 ish US isn’t it?
Just looked into it. It’s tariffs you guys put on our companies.
If they bought your harness they didn't steal it. Do they give credit to Nike or Adidas for the shoes they are wearing?
The one you bought before was the Yearling Leather version, RMW has some lower quality stuff like the one in the video, but they still make great leather products if you know what to look for. Their Kangaroo Leather range for example are really great.
Could you do JM WESTON. a legendary French shoe company
R.M Williams now solely exists to market and sell fully leather like boots to finance and realestate bros.
Don't forget National Party politicians, so they can pretend they've done a day of work in their life out in the bush.
@@SarmonOflynnThey blend in nicely with the brand new suede hat and alcoholism.
@@rocnoir4233 and 4th marriages. Good, Christian, 4th marriages.
@@rocnoir4233the beetrooter 😅
i bought a pair a while ago to fit into uni
35 years ago, i was mustering cattle out Mt Isa way... i was caught in a fire and badly burnt my legs, my jeans and boots burnt away except that the leather soles didnt. This protected the bottoms of my feet (only bit of my legs that didnt end up bbq'd). This meant i could learn to walk again properly... so a big thumbs up to old school RMs.
Gees mate. I hope your ok now. That's a horrendous thing to go through
@matthewcullen1298 cheers mate, yeah, was a tough go for a bit... but tried never to let it stop me.
Have a good one bud 👍
the new ones have the leather sole aswell the youtuber just didnt get the one with a leather sole even though theyre the same price
he bought the comfort one, where they still sell the regular craftsman on the rm williams site
Like most quality goods, and brand names from the past, when they are purchased by a group, solely motivated by profit, at the expense of quality, you are bound to buy expensive crap.
Remember, you can't make a silk purse, out of a sows ear.
Australian translation: You can't make strawberry jam, out of pig shit!
Ouch
Used to work as a cobbler repairing these, they've been in decline for 10 years getting worse and worse, the leather doesn't hold up doing any sort of work outside of needing to look nice (no matter the boot), I know people who bought a pair 30 years ago who've abused the crap out of them for that long and new ones maybe lasting a few months. Love from Australia and keep up the good work
Thanks for confirming my suspicions. I have one pair (albeit in suede) that are near 40 years old and still going strong, but only worn occasionally. My dailys," Craftsmen" in black wear out in ever shortening periods. The leather cracks and splits in just a few years.....and I look after them
Agreed my uncles 25 year old pair, he’s been working in them for years, still held up perfect. Mine have busted in 3 years.
The Craftsmen is a dress boot, the Gardner is a work boot. I have a pair of Gardner’s that I got 3 years ago, given them a pretty rough go and they’re still holding up.
@wilfredwoodhouse8505
Thanks mate, really usefull information! Hhhm, interesting, that's something to ponder about.
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Just like Blundstone, I used to buy them up until the manufacturing left Tasmania, after that they just shite, the soles wear out a lot quicker, the sole separation on the sides, inersole material lasts only weeks, they are just a shit boot relying on past quality that dose not exist anymore, but the purchase price has continued to be in the premium range. I was that disappointed in my last pair, I emailed the company voicing my disappointment in a gentlemanly way, but was sent a reply basically telling me to tell someone who cares! Not even a acknowledgment that they would look into it.
I switched to Rossi Endura, vastly superior boot 3 years of hard abuse and they still look like lasting for a while longer yet at least. I take care of my boots with regular cleaning and application of conditioner and dubbin, Not sure where the Rossi’s were made, but I’ll never buy another pair of Blundstone imposters again, I used to really like like them once, an Australian icon that’s become a shadow of its former reputation.
Rossi make a boot similar to the RM Williams, off memory they are called the Kidman, if I want a flash pair of riding boots, that’s where my cash will be going.
I'm Australian, I own a pair or RM Williams, I'm not the slightest bit offended your've called them out. The quality needs to be maintained!
Paid $600 thinking they would last 10+ years because I'm a heavy user, walking at least 10k steps everyday. My RMs starting cracking and holes appeared in the toe box. These were unfixable and after a total lifetime of only 18 months, I had to throw them out! Granted, I did do the Spit to Manly walk in them which in hindsight was not a good idea. But still, I was expecting the utmost quality for $600. Waste of money. I will never buy RM Williams ever again. I liked the design and leather feel, quick to put on and works with any clothes. After recovering my losses, I will invest in a much better boot. Just haven't found one yet.
You think our boots are bad, you should see our building quality 😂
Those boots are non-compliant
our cars were way worse
or our bloody roads here in country victoria.
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@@ShoeysAdventures our cars are some of the best in the market even today? why do you think you still see 1990 falcons and commodores on the road everyday 35 years after coming off the production line?!?! Because they were built to last.
As an Australian, no hurt feelings here! I’ve always thought that RM Williams boots are for politicians and business wankers who want to cosplay as people who work with their hands.
As a fellow Australian, I can only agree.
ADF uses them now.
Boomers and country cosplayers THE AUSSIE BATTLER (who drives a jeep)
You NEVER see them condition the boots either. No clue. RMWs and North Face vest, wanker uniform.
I agree with the comments from my fellow Australians
However, I am also guilty as charged 😳- been wearing RMs since I was 21 (sadly 42 years ago), especially during my younger, inner city more misspent days. I have 4 pairs ATM, thou only two are on active duty.
As an older Aussie (70) and an owner of RM’s since I was a kid (still own 3 pairs between 25-15 yrs old, all in good condition) I’m glad you’re calling this out because it’s a grab for cash based on a superb brand reputation, rather than living up to or enhancing the brand by sticking with quality.
I hope Hugh Jackman and other brand management pick up on this quickly, as nothing tanks a brand more than false value.
He is just comparing two different type of soles and leathers.
Not fair comparisons,I have mine for 3 years now worn almost every day,took them to Europe last year also waking up to 20 km a day,this sole that he cut off has sneaker like comfort
I don’t think Jackman is involved any more.
Brand was sold a few times over the last few years, after the worker nearly died. Its a shame
We will still buy them regardless. Rather that than anything from America.
The bigger their profit the more taxes they pay!
And that pays for your pension
So enjoy your great Aussie lifestyle and move on pal
R.M. Williams: _The essential wear for when a PM visits a country town, indigenous outpost or wants to put out the feels that he is an "everyday blue collar bloke"_
Don't forget the akubra to go with the look.
Or really, any member of the National Party. 😆
were as if they really wanted to look like the average real rural worker they would be wearing Mongrel boots, Bisley Industrial fluro shirt and pants and some corporate branded boonie hat with a neck flap... working main roads in IT they used to kit us up with this sort of stuff for regional visits ... farkinhell did we get sh*t for coming in off the plane in all fresh and clean out of the bag kit while their kit was so red dirt and battered like they had just come off set from Mad Max Fury Road
@@q9920867 Or the hi-vis vest, hard hat and safety glasses if it happens to be a factory.
lolol true story , nice one
RM Williams WAS an Aussie Icon. One of those companies that rose on the support of working class Australia over a century and turned around and effed them over. I and many like me would not purchase RM Williams products through principle and perhaps even spite, alone.
Me too
The wonders of private equity
@@newj-ib1bn Not wrong.
Blundstone are worse, they have a used by date on them now because the Poly soles fall apart. What can you buy these days.
RM.Williams is now owned by one of Australia's mining billionaires. He sprouts all sorts of patriotic garbage but (1) rips off Aboriginal land holders, (2) doesn't employ Australian seafarers on his ships, and (3) is now running down an iconic Australian brand.... Thanks for the enlightening video.
Yeah but what's the other side of that coin. Some green ceo in black rocks pocket pushing anti australian sentiment.
That's your number 1? Noongars won't even wear RM Williams, let alone to their regular "always was, always will be", "change the date" protests.
He rips off all Aussies by only paying royalties to a handful of elitist aboriginals that form native title land councils.
@@Arnz01 I was referring to a recent court case involving mining royalties. Any order you like...
@@Arnz01 no come to kimberly anyone wears rm
This is the content I come here for, companies like this need to be called out on cutting corners.
They cut corners because their owner demand ever-growing profit margins and when the CEO says it’s not possible without sacrificing quality, they replace him with someone who thinks he can.
I almost bought a pair last night as an impulse buy. Thank you for saving me almost $550!
I'd like to know if any of the changes are from it being a comfort craftsman rather then a traditional one
Impulse buy? Lmao what are you like 5 years old?
@@ThePoliceDonut or just buy the Craftsman line, which he gave a good review years ago. Mind you, this line of boots uses solid leather throughout and can be slippery. The Comfort Craftsman line was created to address the weather and wearability, but you can't make everyone happy.
@@Totemparadox Are you?
@@ShrewdPlacebo98 Clearly not since I don't do impulse purchases like a toddler.
They used to be ~350 AUD (~250 USD) before they got bought out by Louis Vuitton. Big corporations ruin everything.
Pretty sure it's owned by Tattarang a company belonging to Australian mining magnate Andrew 'twiggy' Forrest
@@Hitman-ds1ei it is now and that is likely to be why quality is in decline.
@@Hitman-ds1ei If you watched at least 2 minutes of this video before jumping to the comments section, you'd have learned and confirmed that it was the case, after being owned by LV, which set their first nail for their decline.
Not really Louis Vuitton fault, they have spent like 1/2 a million after the old owners refused to address health and safety issues at the salisbury factory and a few people got injuried and one nearly died. most people interstate are out of the loop about the shit that went down at the factory.
@@Hitman-ds1ei Tattarang took ownership in 2020 I never liked their boots and were over priced the factory was always going broke always in the news here in Adelaide
I’m 49…. Have had a hard working life and tried many Australian boots…. My Rossi boots from the 90s are by far the best I ever owned.
Oh man yes loved my Rossi boots from the 90's
100% agree - Rossi boots in the 1990’s were stuck in a timewarp from decades earlier, and though they weren’t the trendiest looking, they were by far the most comfortable and durable.
I have watched the video and have been a subscriber of Rose Anvil for a few years now. I appreciate the value of natural products in footware, and robust construction.
I feel the assessment should be qualified.
The comfort soled boots in the RM range has a foam inner synthetics in its sole construction, and always have I believe. Comfort soled boots are a hybrid boot designed for wearing all day. The comfort craftsman is an “office” or casual boot.
It would be interesting, and a fairer assessment, to directly compare the leather soled traditional models from pre 2000s to today.
FYI: I have the same style and colour (Caramel Pull Up) as is cut up. Plus also other variations of comfort soles. I also own many leather soled other models including pre. 2010 RM boots when they were locally owned.
My dad owned a pair of this he bought in early 2000-ish and now after he passed away, I wear them after a resole and goring repair. The past version is very comfortable and built like a tank.
That old saying ' Spoiling a ship for a Ha'porth of Tar' comes to mind. As an Aussie I thank you for an honest review.
I’ve been wearing RMs for 40 years. So I’m more than qualified to comment. I’m sorry to say the quality has fallen off. The stitching used to be sublime. My last pair (and probably my ‘last pair’) have really average stitching and looks like a first week apprenticeship job. The quality of workmanship is just not there with imperfect joins that suggest a cobbler at work that just did not give a crap that day. Finally, the leather suede is so thin and I know it won’t last the distance. Certainly NOT a boot that should cost the $700 I paid for it. I do regret dropping the price in the shop that day of purchase - should have walked out to look elsewhere as the lack of quality bugs me every day I wear them. I now use them to ride my motorbike as I just don’t care for them anymore. Sad, another iconic Australian brand going down the toilet for the sake of short term profits and thinking.
Totally agree, wouldn’t buy another pair, my originals are so much better than the stuff they’re producing now and my wife totally agrees
Only yuppies buy them now in Australia and every city doctor that comes to the country has to wear them its a bit of a weird one
ALso not good bike boots no mallelous protection and will slide off in a crash swap to a decent bike boot mate
I’m now 70 and bought RMW boots from when I was 16, the last I bought was about 15yrs ago, when I changed to Ariat due to price and have found Ariat a far better boot at a cheaper price. RMW is nothing like it use to be and never will be again
@@davidmcnamara8759 I have decent bike boots.
i bought a pair 7 years ago, and a pair 6 months ago. Both are beautiful pairs of boots and have maintain their quality and only seem to get more and more comfortable. I am from Adelaide, Australia where the company was founded and contrary to most other places, working class people continue to wear them here despite the cost, this is due to $500 for a pair thatll last you a decade is clearly a sound investment. Beautiful boots.
Did you even watch the video?
I bought a pair of Craftsman boots three years ago. Throughout I used the recommended leather conditioner. One boot developed cracks on the side of the toe a few inches back from the tip on the inside. A flex point. When I had them re-soled, they were nearly written off. The retailer said that it probably got wet and subsequent heating caused the cracking. They were bought as a long-term purchase and I'm very disappointed. I thought they were designed for riding horses, mine have barely been outdoors and still failed.
For those who aren't in Aus, I can't overstate how ubiquitous these are. I work in the Melbourne CBD and basically every single person you see in office outfits on a week day is wearing RM boots. It's such a shame the quality has dropped off, the original boots were considered incredible value and they were cheaper back then as well as being better. I never got around to buying a pair and I guess I won't now.
I'm hoping this gradually opens the door to smaller local brands taking more of the market. Last year I got a pair of custom ordered Gordon Classic Boots from Wootten for $820 AUD and they are spectacular, would be great if they got a video on this channel. They recently closed their Melbourne outlet though which is super unfortunate.
I got fitted at the Melbourne storefront right before they closed. It was a great experience, but Ballarat's not that big a trip. Totally agree that Wes should get a pair.
Stoked you're loving your boots, James. Thank you. And yours are coming soon, Randall!
Same in Sydney. Some of us used to joke that buying a first pair of RMs was a right of passage for the young profession types
Bought my rms in 2016 and wore them nearly every day for the first three years. I wear them often still and the leather is perfect and the sole is still going. Strong. Couldn't say the same for my Thursdays boots and shoes I own. I think the black leather version is better quality
Essential Collins St tradie wear
Back in the day Aboriginals were the back bone of beef industry.. the Aboriginal stockman would have been the biggest part of RMs business. Hawker vans would do runs out the the cattle stations and sell all RMs products to all the stockman. I often poke my nose in Rm stores and walk strait out.. prices are rediculous and the staff look down there noses at you as though you shouldnt be there.. its disgusting to think they built an empire from the old stockman but if a stockman was to walk into there shop today they would want security to search them
as a country boy who now works city office I find the city RM stores all a bit cringe but at least my local one no longer has all the fake stone walls and shop prop cooper barrels for display stands
Aborigine = Noun. Aboriginal= Adjective.
@@user-bo5dl9hr8k I left school at year 7 started working on cattle stations and droving cattle accross Australia.. adjectives and nouns were not considered
100% agree. They have terrible in store service, not just for “stockman” but also city mice like me… they simply direct you to buy online so they can stand about doing stuff-all.
Yuppies.
I bought the comfort craftsman yearling leather in 2017, (can only imagine it's worse now), the boots are great and comfortable, however, I needed the rubber heels replaced as they had worn out. Took it to their flagship store, 'we send it to our Adelaide factory' blah blah blah. A few weeks later I pick them up and they have dripped boot glue on the elastic. I told them they need to replace the elastic, they said it won't match as the elastics on the opposite side and pair are faded. I said, 'so you will need to replace all of them, it's not my fault there is glue on it'. Long story short another two weeks later, i get the boots back. Wear them for a day, i feel pain in my heel, like i've stepped on glass. Not sure what it was, once I got home, i took my boots off and i see blood inside the shoe, cut open sock and cut in my foot. I check the inside of the boot, theres no glass, I run my along the sole, and the nails from the new heel block had come through the sole!!! Needless to say I wasn't happy. I sent them an email, spoke to their production manager, who, to his credit said it wasn't acceptable and told me to pick a replacement pair from a store at no cost and to take that current paid to a cobbler to get fixed.
So you end up with brand new spanking pair as it should.
At least the customer service wasn't that bad
Ouch, literally.
My experience recently has been that the staff who have been in the factory for a very long time are deeply embarrassed by what is happening. Many are just bidding their time to retirement is my understanding. These days it appears they are DEI hiring!
@@kurjan1 I had a trial run working in the distribution and online despatch out at Salisbury; I didn't see diversity hires but I did see disability hires (was nearly one myself due to dialysis at the time, but die to dialysis the hours didn't work). Not many oldies though, so maybe they got let go for cheaper labour.
Aussie here. I started wearing RMs when I was at an agricultural high school in the 1960s. They were a great boot in those days. By the early 2000s I actually noticed that the leather was getting thinner and it would craze and crack in the toe flex area. I persisted for a bit but I and my family stopped buying about 20 years ago. We haven't gone back - I think the rot set in long before the private equity cockroaches got involved. It became a vanity product with a gouge price.
In their defence, I think these boots are a decent buy for the target Aussie market of white-collar city workers (which is why they're so popular). They are cheaper in Australia, where American and English-made boots typically retail 20% higher than what you enjoy in the northern hem. Choice is limited here in brands, and online shipping is expensive (and forget about free returns). Australian wages are some of the highest in the world (particularly minimum wage), and the boot is honestly quite reasonably priced considering. The sneaker sole is very comfortable and suitable for people who want a leather shoe that looks good with smart casual attire and holds up in wet or muddy weather (it doesnt snow here), taking the kids to the footy etc. Its not meant for mustering horses or digging mines like the rm williams of old.
As an Australian boot aficionado, of course this means war
No I've been thinking for YEARS that Australia needs more options for welted footwear. But 'boots' and 'RM Williams' are interchangeable terms in Australia, the task would first be to convince people that non-RM Williams boots exist and to teach them why Goodyear welts are cool. It's on my list for world domination, convincing my homeland to buy other boot brands!
Goodyear welts are like alien technology here. I bought a pair of cheap Thorogood work boots and people compliment me on them like they're luxury. Good quality lace ups just don't exist locally.
I wish we had more affordable GYW boots available in Aus. It's a shame there isn't a convenient way to get Thursdays here
Perhaps to boot aficionados, RM and boots are interchangeable. But the only people I've seen wearing them are doctors and politicians. I live in the outback. No one wears them. Even for dress events.
They're essentially dress shoes for wealthy city people.
Yeah agree with all the above comments. It's just such a shame for those who want to get into the shoe / boot world in Aus. I have mates that would ask me for recommendations, I used to say RM is good for Aussie made product, but now I probably need to direct them to the likes of Bridlen, CNES for the cost concious, or TLB for the mid level spenders, or the indos/Chinese for the handwelting nerds. Sigh. Doesn't affect me knowing that RM is shit now because I don't buy them, but it is a blow.
As an Aussie, used to have two pairs of RM. Now just one. Felt the quality going down, their repair quality also poor; damaged my boots. So, I Got two pairs of Grant Stone and a Red Wing Iron ranger - quality is way better than RM.
A bit harsh on Nick Cage... Man won an Oscar for Leaving Las Vegas.
Nicky enjoying some down time at home watching RUclips, "what the fuck did I do"
Oh I could name like 15 amazing Nicolas Cage movies. Hell, he can get an outright terrible script and improve the movie immensely by giving it a memorable performance. People calling him a bad actor are deluded and haven't seen enough Nicolas Cage movies.
(I've seen all of them, he's my favourite actor)
What Cage should be doing is Leaving Acting.
@@jrvasquez4353 People who say stuff like this don't actually like movies and are just repeating memes.
@@andrewnicon Hilarious.
DONT YOU DARE TRASH NICHOLAS CAGE!! you take that back!
It's Nicolas cage but you're right he needs to learn some respect!
I agree. Nicholas cage has a much broader set of Acting skills that ANY OTHER ACTOR alive at the moment
Tru dat! Nicholas Cage is a real one!
my middle name is Nicholas, because he was in a nic cage phase when he had me.
Has anyone seen him in The vampires kiss ?.... well worth watching , what a nutcase 🤣. !
I’ve worn RMs nearly every day for 20 years. The last pair I bought was about 2016 and they’ve held up remarkably well. Which I’d expect for the $600 price tag. Mine have the “oil proof sole” which is synthetic and amazingly it has stayed intact despite being in rain, hot concrete, dust, sand, mud etc. The elastic is still tight and stitching is excellent. Having watched this review, I think I might’ve got a pre-2014 model. I think I’ll try Rossi boots next and see if Gina has instilled god craftsmanship and quality materials to that company.
Quality still going great, I got a pair of RMs Dynamic Flex Comfort Craftsman a year ago and superb comfort and durability.
For all those looking for an actual Australian Made boot - give Wootten a go. Proper hand made by a small family crew.
I would also like a see a pair of Baxter's cut in half. Got an old Made in Australia pair which I love. I don't think they're made here anymore, but still Aussie owned and offers a much cheaper alternative to RMs ($350 aud instead of $699 lol), also looks very comparably built.
Have had my eye on a pair of Wootens for a while now but was struggling to justify the price however after seeing this might need to think again, would be happy to pay a bit extra for a longer lasting product.
@@rarekid740 if you're in syd check out zatz footwear in chatswood - 275$ ish for the baxter goulburn.
No, they'll say, "Well, any damage is done. What else can we cheapen in order to reduce our production costs?"
@@Colorado_Native I think the comfort version is different from regular craftsman.
This is the video alot of Aussies and cobblers here have been waiting for. We hoped after 'Twiggy' brought it back into Australian hands the quality would have come back. A lot of posts on Reddit over the years from fans, disappointed customers and cobblers have all pointed to this decline in quality. But nothing comprehensively embarrassing like this.
Hopefully this video goes viral & gets Tattarang's attention.
I only say this as a disappointed Aussie and a fan of RM Williams, whilst I slide on my Chocolate Suede Craftsman 🇦🇺
Twiggy is such a con artist. As an energy scientist, you only have to see the con job he is pulling with hydrogen to know that.
Everything Forrest touches turns to shit.
He got lucky once with iron ore. Everything else is an epic fail.
@@InfinitePlain Yep, no quality there.
I don't think this video is remotely comprehensive though?
Comparing a Classic to a Comfort and being surprised by the amount of leather used? Comparing aniline thickness to full grain yearling?
It's apples and oranges despite a likely decline. Needs to compare a 2024 classic yearling boot with the 2020 pair he has. Comforts have padded insoles for a reason and the rubber soles are far better than leather in my experience.
@@japesssit doesn't matter what boots he compares. These are $600USD/$650 AUD boots. The comfort craftsmen and classic are the same price. And for that money, 1.3mm uppers is not acceptable. Not even Thursdays uppers are that thin.
I have had both rubber and leather soles. I prefer the leather soles. More breathable and supportive, they just not that durable.
I would also like to add this video has gotten a lot of attention, with heaps of references on social media, and the odd media outlet article on it.
I can imagine the RM Williams board room is going to get rowdy soon.
Nah, they'll just carry on milking the mugs for years to come
Agree with all points but still think it would have been worth the exercise to compare the same boot to the one you had from 4 years ago.
Australians are not accustomed to complaining, and big companies know that. When companies (and the government) start to hear a bit of complaining, they shut it down, claiming it is 'un-Australian.' This is why iconic brands like R.M. Williams can lower their quality without fearing backlash. They will do this for a couple of years to increase profits and then possibly return to more durable products. It's a shame.
Thing is we're also not stupid. So when something drops in perception and quality we walk away.
Though the sheeple effect of your corporate RM wearer will run on for a while before people get stung by lesser quality faults.
Cut open the signature series RM Williams 🫢
Why? If their 600 bone boots can't cut it, what will "signature" boots do besides cost more.
@@RonnieStanley-tc6vi The non-Comfort craftsman seemed to be better constructed, at least the one from a few years back, for the same price as the Comfort Craftsman. It'd be interesting to see if the extra money just buys the "Signature" tag or if there are actually differences.
Like so many brands they have been ruined and no longer any interest
@@Love2Cruise Even if they're better constructed, they shouldn't be charging $600 for this crap
@@RonnieStanley-tc6viit's 600 AUD in Australia, which is 400 USD. People are being misled here.
The corporate greed by this company is astounding! And I thought Carhart was bad! Thanks for shining a spotlight on it.
I suspect Twiggy Forrest is to blame...
At least RMW didn’t demand AFAIK all employees topake vax like carhart. I will never buy them.
@@crazyg74he has lost the plot too!
I miss when Carhart was cheap and only sold at stores that sold at trades stores.
Get the same boot you cut the 1st time. It's simple to compare apples to apples. But yes, $600 is 3 times what those particular boots are.
As an expat Englishman who has called Oz my home for a long time. I am very pro Australian made. I was disappointed in the quality of the materials shown within the boot. I have owned RM's boots and loved them. Thanks for the review, Cheers
The only thing I like about RM Williams is that all the tossers in the office I work at wear them. Making them easier to identify.
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The older ones are bombproof.
You can say that about Doc Martins too. And just about Anything made back then when they were legit worried about a bomb dropping on them!
1.7 mm leather isn't stopping squat lol
It's like the normal way of making things back in the old days represents the highest peak of craft and durability nowadays.
bought mine 40 years ago and the soles wore out in just over 6 months...hard lesson to learn, and RMW didnt want to know about it.
I bought a pair of their 'Gardener' boots from their Bond Street store in London UK about a year ago, I had only worn them once, and the second time of wearing them the heel fell off of one of the boots! on closer inspection I found the heels were only glued on, no nails at all, I took them back to the store for a refund and was told they must have missed out on the nails in the construction process and they had never seen this before.
You shouldn't be comparing the Comfort Craftsman to the regular Craftsman, that's why there is less leather and more foam. But you are right that the Comfort Craftsman is not worth the price, but I have a pair of full leather Craftmans from 2021 that still have the 1.8mm thick leather and they are worth the ~$500, nothing in the $200 price range remotely compares to the quality of them.
He was successfully demonstrating the poor build quality - the RM apologists, obviously don't like that!
"You shouldn't be comparing the Comfort Craftsman to the regular Craftsman, " And why the fuk not ? they are the exact same price and are sold as being of equal quality. Guess this is why you don't have a popular youtube channel
I was thinking the same thing. Not sure what the prices are for each, but when doing a comparison test it’s pretty reasonable to expect the same boots to be compared.
The “comfort” is made to be comfortable immediately so that might be why it has thinner leather. It we’ll never know for sure until a like for like test is actually performed.
And for anyone wants to dismiss my comment as a fan boy - I have only owned one pair of RMs and I really dislike them. Borderline hate them. So they are so stiff, so uncomfortable. But I can’t bring myself to get rid of them because of how much they cost. The irony is I’d probably pay the same price for thinner leather based on my experience with the super thick and stiff leather.
@@alex98b627 Not filling those nail holes with hot cork screams budget to me. I have 3 pairs and I'm worried that if I get new heels and soles they will be lower quality than my used ones. Same with the belts, I have heard they are no good now which sucks so much cos they are the best belts ever.
@@alex98b627 Push through the initial discomfort and they become quite a comfortable boot. I had a similar thing happen. Now I wear them everyday with no issue
Love your channel. The world needs more in depth, totally objective product reviews like this to protect companies producing quality product and expose those purporting to be quality.
When I was a kid (long time ago), RM Williams were made to last forever. They actually offered a lifetime warranty on everything but the sole. I remember in the 80's my dad took back a 30 year old pair he had issues with and RM Williams replaced them for nothing.
I’m 52 and I am on my third pair. Only one pair had to be thrown away. Current pair I have owned since around 2012 and I have replaced the soles once. I suspected the quality was sliding, and you have confirmed that. Excellent video, thanks for posting.
Cut open the 'regular' Craftsman boot from 2024 and compare to the previous version?
The comfort insole is poron and lasts. Very comfortable boots and you can always buy the regular leather soul if you like.
Leather Soul - sounds like a Beatles follow up album?
I'm also Australian. 66 years old with two pairs of the round toe high stacked leather heels. Basically the Santa Fé with round toe. A brown pair I've had since the mid 70s and black since early-mid 80s. Had them re heeled and gussets replaced several times. They're the most comfortable boots (footwear) I've ever worn and they still look amazing. Haven't worn them for years but I reckon I'll get them out after watching this. It's a bloody screaming shame where RMs are at now🤦♂️😔
I hope this review kicks their butt back into the quality. We have bugger all manufacturing and legitimately Australian made products worthy to be proud of these days. "They've" sold our Cars, Vegemite, world class shock absorbers, quality fruit, quality building construction etc etc.
So damn sad! Still love you Australia!
There's not a lot of options when other countries can made decent products much cheaper. I for one am happy with the comparatively high wages Aussies get, especially these days.
The loss of manufacturing here actually was related to the surplus of cheap overseas-made stuff. The balance-of-payments stopped being an issue decades ago. International trade and the global economy means we can buy TVs, phones, stereos, dress shirts, etc., much cheaper than if we made them.
For widespread Aussie boot-making to continue, we'd have had to resort to the textiles trade of old, underpaid workers driven to exhaustion & paid a pittance, while their employers suck from the government teat of tariffs.
Near the end, textile makers were notorious for exploiting migrant women, given unfairly large amounts of piecework in sweatshops, being stood over by thugs.
If that's what it took to produce affordable footwear, I'm happy to see the end of manufacturing here. I'm sad to see iconic brands die or head overseas, but I feel we have it pretty good, consumer-wise.
Thank you for your service. To the boot manufacturers, no more fucking around. You will be exposed.
Just to clarify that the price of RM William boots here in Australia is $649 AUD which equates to about $425 USD. - not sure if they’re jacking up the price for US hence why you’re referencing $589 in the video? 7:31
Shipping cost
At 11:50 it does cost $589
Irrelevant - VASTLY overpriced wherever you are!
Shipping and handling plus covering the free returns
@@jannis8133 He's not disputing that. He is rightly pointing out that, in Australia the boots don't cost nearly so much. Check out the pricing on their website - AUD$649 for the Comfort Craftsman. The American pricing is quite out of whack.
But still an interesting video. And i'd agree the boots are surely still overpriced in Oz.
Old Pommie bloke here. I am a lifelong fan of properly built shoes, got some nice Northampton made ones.
So anyway, I drank the CoolAid and stumped up about £400, 5or6 years ago for a pair of black RMW’s. Disappointing to learn they are not all that…
To be fair, they are comfortable and still look great, but I’ve only been wearing them for “best”. At my age that’s mostly funerals! Lol!
Not ready to see how they stand up to yard work etc. just yet, so far I’ve managed not to scuff ‘em , or worse still overstretch the elastic sides.
Maybe they’ll hold up long enough for my own funeral! 👍
Not surprised! Purchased the Gardener in 2021. Sole cracked in less than a year, along the upper chevron shapes (under the ball of the foot) from gentle, daily urban use. Replacement soles cracked again within 10 months, in the same spot. After a second replacement, they went into storage and I’m now on team Blundstone-a far better boot than I’d been led to believe.
Thank you for the review, I was about to buy a pair, after watching this review, no way I'm buying it.
I'm an Aussie - And Thank you so much for clarifying my suspicions. My old RMs were 10yrs old and had to get a new pair about 2yrs ago (due to some drunken escapades) and they definitely did not feel right! - I thought, "Maybe I just needed to break them in" but they still did not feel the same under-foot. Mate - You're Gold! Cheers!
They're different boots, he bought the Rubber soled "comfort" boots and compared them to the same leather soled boots that they still sell. It's a misleading video. He also paid way too much for them, both styles still sell for $600 dollerydoos, can look it up right now on their website. He's buying them in the US for $300 more and complaining about the price.
Huge congratulations on the cut-centering. That was an awesome job!
I wonder if you bought the same boot if it would be the same as the old ones.
It wouldn’t be, as Australians have been saying for years. That’s the whole reason this video exists in the first place, because people keep saying the boots have seriously dropped in quality
@@G__U__T__Sthe problem with this video tho is that he didn't compare the same boots, therefore it's difficult to compare the quality of the construction. If he was comparing value based on the quality of construction then this video would make more sense.
Many years ago (at least 10) I won a RM Williams gift voucher for $250.
I went to the shop 3 times and eventually bought the Chinchilla boots and paid the extra $300ish dollars. The most expensive clothing item I’ve ever bought. They are still amazingly comfortable & only get worn to anniversaries, weddings & funerals because I treat them like they are gold.
I’m a sparky. There is no way I’m wearing these things to work. I go through 2 pairs of normal $200+ work boots a year because I wear them 15 to 18 hours a day!!
I still have my 22 year old Doc Marten 8 hole boots. I wore for 2 years at school, part time pizza job, got married in them, still wore them last weekend to see a band in a pub. I’m pretty sure they don’t make them like they used to but they are bloody hard to beat.
I've still got my high-topped Blunnies from 1991. Re-soled once. Will never see the likes of them again.
Though they look mostly identical there’s a big difference between the two ranges of boot when it comes to the sole
The craftsman have a traditional full leather sole
The comfort craftsman has a hybrid leather & rubber sole with foam insert. To make it a more comfortable boot.
I enjoy both boots. Both wear really well & are durable. When worn all day I lean more towards the comfort craftsman. The sole is less slippery and the insole more comfortable
I agree at this price point the insole should be leather but if that’s what you want then I guess buy the full leather sole version
The real crime here is that you pay $589 USD for them here in Australia they run $650 AUD which is around $430 USD
Still not cheap/amazing value for money but they are a good looking dress boot with heritage
Excellent video! Loved the intro and history you really did your homework thank you 🙏
This video doesn't seem that logical. You're comparing 2 different RM Williams boots. The comfort craftsman is constructed in a completely different way to the craftsman. I do agree that the comfort craftsman is far too expensive for what it is (especially at the ridiculous price in the US), but I just don't think this video is framed in a useful way.
Yep.
100% this. If this was the new leather soled vs the old leather soled, then it would make sense. He's comparing a Ferrari to a Fiat. Just because they're made by the same people, doesn't mean they're the same product.
The sad thing is this is the way of all brands now, someone builds up a value proposition business and it grows organically through being a superb quality and very good value product....Venture capitalists see an opportunity to milk the brand by slashing quality to bottom out costs while keeping the price high or even increasing it, they offer the owners a huge price to exit ....The brand then slowly declines as the reputation is ruined, but by this time the vultures have picked the business clean of assets and cash and move on to the next.
It’s more something private equity companies do, but your point is well made. VC’s are a different type of evil.
Keep in mind, Australian manufacturing has become so expensive that manufacturers are forced to cheap out on quality instead of cheaping out on manual labor. To give you an example, I work in a fabrication shop here in Aus, our charge out rate in $150/hr, that covers the on the floor workers and overheads. Now imagine how expensive these boots are to make for an Australian company, think again about the manufacturing of a car or a boat when charging out at such high rates. These $600 boots are equivalent to 4 hours of charge out at my workshop.
Now of course, production lines and automation are the only thing that can help reduce the prices of items manufactured in Australia. However, the Australian government has given zero f**ks toward manufacturing for so long that manufacturing is almost dead. We don't have cheap labor like China, and we no longer have the skilled people, or economy to support automation like the US does. We are stuck in a loop of manufacturing being so expensive that, we are forced to choose to lower the quality of our products, or get priced out completely by overseas competitors.
Now I'm not justifying this, I'm in complete agreement that RM's should be ashamed for this standard of quality for a $600 boot. its horrendous. But the Australian government should be more ashamed for not incentivizing and not allowing manufacturing to blossom here in Aus. It's incredible sad to see a country with sooooo many resources and soooo much space, almost perfect for large scale, low cost manufacturing, to fail so spectacularly.
100%
Hey mate. Are you Aussie? So much American spelling.
This deserves to be the top comment. The realities of manufacturing here are tragic and politicians played a huge part.
@@Peterviegal The only words I used outside of the Australian spelling convention is "Labor" instead of "Labour". But look mate, if that's all you get out of my comment, so be it.
@@hambo6713 Too right, it's even more tragic considering how much of a fundimental lead we had given our space and resources. Unfortunately though, we have taken the easy way out and export all of resources instead. If the mining tap was switched off tomorrow, Australia's economy would cease to exist. What a terrible position to be in!
Glad I still have the old ones and will be resoling and keeping forever... makes the $300 paid 20 years ago pretty good now!
$300 paid 20 years ago is probably comparable to their Signature Craftsman in 2024, that ones some serious damage at $1059. It even states leather insole, as a selling feature.
Can't thankyou enough for this video. I'm an aussie and was about to invest in a so called quality RM Williams boot and no Can't justify it. Thankyou again for your content
Go try some on. A) the ones he just reviewed is by design lighter and thinner with composite sole to be comfortable. B) the leather sole craftsmans or other boots are different. I’ll personally vouch the comfort of their boots, just make sure you get the right size.
I think the Comfort Craftsman have always had a lot of synthetics compared to the Craftsman for people who don't like breaking in leather.
It's clearly listed on the RM Williams website as being a Comfort Insole.
I've got comfort and regular craftsman and I find regular more comfortable for wearing all day. Comfort gets too hot. Weird.
@@kingofthenoobs The original Comfort Craftsman were built identical to the traditional craftsman with just a rubber sole.
@@ZulualfadeltaThat the Blaxland. Leather insole, rubber outsole. The comfort craftsman were introduced in the early 2000s with the comfort insole.
Hey! National Treasure is actually a pretty good movie. It's a lot of fun and it holds up surprisingly well.
Mr.Rose Anvil! Can the double harness be used as suspenders?!? If not you should totally make some!!!!
Love my RM’s have many pairs and wear them daily. I most like that they can be sent back for repair. Just had 2 pairs resolved and relined. Feel like new, look and feel like my worn in boots.
Yep… used to be a work boot, now a dress boot only. For riding/working if you want elastic sides I’d use mongrel or red back. For dressing up maybe RMs but yeah, the price! The mongrel riding boot looks ok.
As someone that grew up with everyone around me owning rmwilliams I myself own 3 pars. I am genuinely ashamed that this is what they have done.
I’ve been wanted to buy a pair of R.M for at least 5 years now.
My plan was to buy them straight from the store when I’m visiting Australia, and making the whole thing a special memory.
Welp fuck me and my dream I guess, I’ve never been this sad to see the quality drop of a brand
Don’t buy the comfort craftsman and buy a different upper leather. Don’t let your dreams be dreams.
@@liamkelly5850 Yeah but do I really want to risk 600 bucks for a brand that has been confirmed to be cutting corners on one of their boots? I’m not sure yet, I might need some time to think about it, maybe look for a similar boots that are actually good quality at the same time
There's outlet stores here and with the US to Australia exchange rate you could probably pick up a pair of Craftsman's for 300ish.
I wanted to do the same
I think this review was a little unreasonable. And I bet every upmarket shoe & boot made in the last 40 years has had a huge mark-up.
Why be disappointed? At least head into a RMW store and have a look.
Years ago I would have suggested Blundstones, which at the time were half the price of Doc Martens and just as hard-wearing. Now they're no longer made in Australia.
Nice to see an honest review. I was disappointed by the origin review because you defended some of these features when you were sponsored by origin. I love origin but I was greatly disappointed by their boots
His push for origin was due to their nearly all American true leather components, unlike many today.
Saved me from buying my next pair! Appreciate you highlighting this for us down under!!
I’m Aussie it’s all good 👍 appreciate the honesty in your review! Very sad to see a much loved icon disappearing for the sake of corporate greed n profits! Thanks mate take care god bless!
What you haven't mentioned is that the expensive RM Williams boots are made from very durable kangaroo leather - not steer leather. Kangaroo leather is much thinner. All the best leather jackets are made from kangaroo leather also. On another note, did you know that RM Williams and Akubra and now owned by Andrew 'Twiggy' Forrest and his wife. Akubra also import their rabbit felt from Poland and Russia. On yet another note, did you know that mining magnate Gina Rhinehart also owns Driza-Bone now??
This is a very interesting take. I have whites, nicks, Aldens, Crockett & Jones, Vibergs. I love them all very dearly and some of these, for sure are considered tanks/well made. However, absolutely none of them can compete with my RM Williams Comfort Craftman boots when it comes to comfort/easy to wear. I can wear them all day at a time without feet soreness. I do want to see how long it actually lasts, along with re-sole-ability.
@@JH-wn1ko you can get them relasted at the factory, which was a relief considering I don’t expect the foam insole to last as long as leather. They’re overpriced (so are the leather ones), but they last a long time still.
You are obviously overloaded with money, like to brag about it and have nothing better to do with it?
@@daniellogansa8101 thank you for this input! Looking forward to it.
@@childofthe60s100 not sure why my response to you got deleted. However - just to reiterate. It’s not about bragging about who got more expensive shoes. Bc I could care less about that. We all know that this community thrives on wanting the best made shoes/boots and it comes with a price tag. I’ve worked on this collection over a decade and I admit that it has become an addiction/obsession. I was just making a point that these boots are just very easy to wear and the comfort has been amazing even though when comparing materials used, they are absolutely lacking and yes, it is overpriced.
If anything, let me make an assumption as well - it seems to me that it’s you that’s overloaded with time, like to attack everyone’s comments due to your own insecurities and have nothing better to do with it?
Lastly - Rose Anvil’s content is great at sharing knowledge and I appreciate what he does. But here you are, having a problem with everyone’s comments. Here’s a lesson for you…If you have a problem with everyone…maybe it’s you that’s the problem 😉 perspectives…
Were the RMs bought in the last few years? That's where it's much more noticeable in the difference in quality.
Don’t apologise to us Aussies, we’re really glad you took a good look at RMs and let us know what’s really going on. They have taken a treasured emblem of outback Australia and sold it up the river. Seems to be happening to a lot of the excellent old brands we used to love and trust. Akubra hats have also been sold to a big corporate company, just waiting for their quality to drop through the floor too now.
Thank you for raising this issue. I can only hope that RM Williams responds and promises to do better.
Just to be fair, comparing the Craftsman to the Comfort Craftsman is a bit apples and oranges. I could be wrong, but I think the Comfort Craftsman, the new one you just cut apart is supposed to have more synthetic, comfortable components inside. If you want something more traditional, you go with the regular Craftsman, which I believe is the one you cut up a while ago.
Spot on, old mate needs to be comparing apples to apples.
@@digrar Also they are $650 in AUD, which in USD is $430, so they are not truly a '$600 boot'
Boots BS galore.
@@michaeldaly7884 They are $539 in the USA, plus NY state sales tax of 8.875 % brings the price to $586.83.
@michaeldaly7884 My late paternal grandfather bought his boots in the early seventies one for the farm another for town and wore them until he passed away in twenty ten but if still around he sure as hell would find another brand.
I'm pretty sure RM Williams still makes full-leather boots, they're just listed as "Craftsman" and not "Comfort Craftsman". You purposely bought the one with synthetic materials and got mad at it for having synthetics. Besides, plenty of people on reddit have theirs for years and have no complaints.
I mean they literally advertise this as having a foam insole. You can also get the boot rebuilt by them when the insole goes bad. You could also just buy the equally overpriced version with the leather insole.
Still doesn't change the fact that it isn't worth $600. If you believe that they're worth that much, then you suffer from Brand Loyalty
@@IsthisMike if you read my comment I distinctly say that they’re overpriced…
I’m Australian. This is complete click bait. Why would you compare the normal model to the comfort model and make out as if you are comparing the old version to the new version?
You can still buy the standard version of the boots. This is the comfort version that is built for more comfort. The craftsman boot comes in 3 versions. standard, comfort and dynamic flex version which is a mix of rubber and leather sole.
You should compare the same models! You know what you did here
My best mate prefers the comfort models and I prefer the standard models. We both have the exact same boots but he always goes for the comfort version.
People check the craftsmen boots section on the RMWilliams australia site and you will see what I mean.
This is extremely misleading.
There have been three occasions when I went in to an RM Williams shop to buy a pair of boots. One the service was so bad I went down the road and bought a pair of Italian boots, which I still have after 20 years. The second they were so obviously ignorant about the product and range and living on the reputation. I showed a bootmaker in Hoi An in Vietnam a picture of the pair I was after and they made them for me.
The third time I was just blown away by the outragious cost of the boots that are simply not worth it anymore.
As an Aussie, I am very sad about that.
Great video by the way.
Agreed with your review for comfort line, but I think the Craftsman line is still leather insole and I don’t think it changed much from your previous review 4 years ago..
Curious to see what other lines are like, would you consider cutting more boots from different lines of R.M. Williams ?
My cousin Yung Suk Dong is a factory worker in China. They produce RM Williams copy boots called RM Wangies. He said the quality is so low they were forced to used dead insects and animal droppings into a cheap composite material that they marketed as eco friendly to the people in California.
That's gold 😂😂😂
@@AusFeral23 Thanks mate. I'll get Dongy to send you a pair of Wangies.
@@user-jl2wd1it8h thanks mate i will give them to my mate Richard Cranium for his birthday 😁
@@user-jl2wd1it8h cool i will give them to my mate Richard cranium for his birthday 👍
Fake leather is absolutely crazy
I have a pair of my Dad's old Rm Williams, they are about 25 years old and I wear them every day.
I appreciate this vid. I am from Adelaide and was going to head to the factory and buy a pair, but I think I’ll just stick with my $150 pair of Colorado’s every year.
This video feels very over exaggerated. As if the guy has something personal going on with R M Williams. I have 2 pairs and they are amazing. I have friends and colleagues that have pairs and they love them. Of course the comfort sole won’t be as good as the leather sole. It’s in the name. It’s all about comfort. There has to be materials like foam. The most comfortable shoes in the world are sneakers and they r all foam. I think they are worth it. And for all the people who say the leather cracks. Of course it will if u don’t take care of it. It’s leather!! It must be cleaned and conditioned every now and then. Depending on how often u wear them. Useless video full of useless comments
You’ve compared two different boots which is why they’re different. That being said, the boot you’ve cut open today isn’t worth the price point.
A Chelsea boot from the same company in the same price range. The only things that should be different is small things
@@JJ-zr6fu yeah I agree. But would like to see the exact style of boot compared to see for sure if their quality has changed
They haven’t changed, neither have the leather insole ones. The price has just gone up.
The more I watch videos on this channel, the more I'm tempted to try making a boot for myself from scratch...
Cool to see rm’s getting opened up. FYI - The shank is not metal to make them airport friendly. Also, don’t let this video put you off RM completely - the dynamic flex version of the craftsman is much better quality for the same price.
I have bought three pairs of RMs from charity stores over the years for a combined price of $18 (AU). I guess i managed to pay a lot less and get the better quality (older) ones at the same time! All three are still amazing.
RM Williams is absolutely horrible. I have two pairs, both their Yearling, both sucks. Mine were bought about 20 years ago, so poor quality started longer than you suggest. The leather crack. Really zero durability. And the last is not comfortable. I have the same Chelsea boots by John Lobb…way superior in every way.
and about $2000 more lol
@@JasonBitman not that much back in the day…but considerably more than the RM. I would rather save up and buy one pair of JL than three pairs of RM.
someone needs a new bandsaw blade
The comfort model is “softened” a lot. Your best bet if you but this brand is the original craftsman. It has the veg tan insole + thicker leather. Dam this National treasure hate is uncalled for!!
Value is still there…had my pair for 4 years and going strong - best pair of shoes I’ve ever had
First Pair RMs 40yrs ago Loved em lasted for years.