Yeah. He adapted the novel to the time without sacrificing the original themes or message. Couldn't have asked for a better rendition. And given the impetus for writing Dune Messiah I think even Frank Herbert would approve the changes in Part Two made to better emphasize that this was not a 'good' ending to the story, and Paul was not to be lauded.
I haven’t felt this way watching a film in a long time. I was sweatinggggggg. What a masterpiece. I am going to be so sad once he leaves after dune messiah.
Me too. i really wish he did all the remaining original books by Frank Herbert every few years. Because he has already established the cinematic language for the movies.
I have not read the book, but Chani pushing back on Paul at every turn in this movie was a great call. I knew she would be a character to watch out for after the first. He has a great instinct.
I think it's a good change, because it certainly fits within the personality/identity of the Fremen, and other ideas discussed in the book by other characters, especially in later books, i am super fascinated how Villeneuve will adapt Messiah because it is completely turning the religious saviour narrative on its head and characters like Irulan and Chani have a pretty big role in it. It'll be amazing to Zendaya and Florence have a proper verbal sparring match and act their hearts out because I think Messiah has great dramatic potential even if its very tough to convince an audience to watch their idea of a hero be twisted like that.
Yeah in the book once she believes that Paul is the Lisan al-Ghaib she basically just becomes an accessory and fades into the background even more. I felt it was very disappointing at the time and I'm glad it was changed to better emphasize the dire nature of Paul's ascent.
@@julesjma I thought he went the progressive, ahead of her time route with Chani, but after learning the authors intent with the story, it was a good route.
The cinematography and soundtrack in this movie are both the greatest things I’ve ever experienced in IMAX. Paul pulling the sandworm up and hearing the wind rush in with that high pitch before Hans’ soundtrack kicks in as Paul takes waves and waves of sand crashing down was just unbelievable. Lots of moments all over the film like the Bene Gesserit’s powers being used demanded this level of sound design to be as effective as it was. I really can’t get over how incredible this was, I’ve seen it 4 times trying to nitpick problems and I really can’t. It’s an extremely rare 10 out of 10 and I’m so happy to be alive to experience it. We need a directors cut that’s as long as possible!
As someone who deeply loves cinema, it was an absolute joy to watch this film. It feels like the culmination of cinema's 120+ year history. Thank you to the Dune Part Two team!
That would be going, perhaps, too far, but it's definitely a blockbuster people longed for. Can't remember the last time I had the "edge of the seat" experience in the theatre before that.
I vote you make dune messiah 4+ hours long with an intermission in the theater showing. and please do an extended version of Dune 2. we need more of this universe. im going to see Dune 2 again tomorrow and then on Tuesday as well. this feels like something special just happened in our culture.
I've never seen a film in theaters as many times as Dune: Part Two. Thank you Denis Villeneuve and cast and crew and Hans Zimmer for this masterpiece of cinema.
I m from québec and i love Denis and his works. It s an ok interview but i would have love to hear him more. The questions were not great, but he found a way to bring us in his creative universe anyway. Thanks. (She does not seem to know well the books. Common, not kill zendaya?)
I was not talking about denis but the question from the interviewer. Denis knows bettern that Chani has a too great role not to kill her, except at the birth of the twin.
So as a result of this film I listened to a 1965 interview with Frank Herbert as well as a David Lynch roasting of his own film calling it, “putrification” and finally Denis view of the work he describes as becoming more and more relevant today.
1:58 "... you see all the mistakes you've done" I wish she'd asked: what mistakes did you see in the first film? That would have been an enlightening question.. oh well!
seen it three times now and its only gotten better just a wonderful adaption, i just wish paul and chandi had better chemistry in the first kiss scene is maybe the only flaw i can find
@@noreavad Zendaya wore an outfit by a French designer made in the 90s that looks like a robot from the film Metropolis at one of the Dune Part Two premieres.
I was always pretty convinced it was the spacing guild who controlled everything behind the scenes and not the sisterhood, time to reread the books again I suppose.
You're correct. They are. Denis gutted the story and characters. You're only getting roughly 50% of the book in character, plot and world building terms.
@@theavatar9191 doesn't matter. If you don't make a movie thats slow paced all over as opposed to in parts, you could've fit most of the book into two films. Denis just doesn't know how to work with a fluctuating pace, only with a monotonous one.
Dune Messiah (2026) Tagline: The Empire Rises Directed by Denis Villeneuve Screenplay by Hampton Fancher Jon Spaihts & Eric Roth Based on Dune Messiah by Frank Herbert Produced by Mary Parent Cale Boyter Patrick McCormick Tanya Lapointe & Denis Villeneuve Cinematography Greig Fraser Music by Hans Zimmer (Hans Will Composed 29 Tracks in 94 Minutes) Runtime: 174 Minutes (2 Hours and 54 Minutes) Premise: 13 Years After Dune Part Two Paul Muad'Dib Atreides Becomes the Emperor Of Arrakis As He Face's His Demons From the Past To Take Over Arrakis Once More Cast Ryan Gosling as Paul Muad'Dib Atreides Timothée Chalamet as Young Paul Muad'Dib Atreides Margot Robbie as Queen Irulan Corrino Florence Pugh as Young Irulan Corrino Rosario Dawson as Chani Zendaya as Young Chani Anya Taylor-Joy as Alia Atreides Rebecca Ferguson as Reverend Mother Jessica Javier Bardem as Stilgar Josh Brolin as Gurney Halleck Christopher Walken as Emperor Shaddam IV Charlotte Rampling as Reverend Mother Helen Mohiam Tim Blake Nelson as Edric Walker Scobell as Leto Atreides II Mckenna Grace as Ghanima Atreides
People keep giving "Oppenheimer" the credit for the retransfer to 70mm film, when, as I understand it, Matt Reeves was the first to do it for a major film with "The Batman". Am I wrong?
I haven’t even read the books and I can tell this interviewer didn’t do her homework. The fact that she says Zendaya and not Chani… Villeneuve must be a patient man.
"The sport is more important than anything. More important than any of the people in it. Of course I say what I think. I always have, even if it upsets people like Ecclestone and Balestre. Why should I be afraid of them? The fans aren't here to see politicians and manipulators. They're here to see Alain and Mario and Carlos and me. I am very secure in my feelings about racing. I make a lot of money from it, but one thing I can tell you for sure: if the money disappeared overnight, I would still be in racing, because I love it. The entrepreneurs would be gone." Gilles Villeneuve. Replace motor racing with cinema and Denis could easily pass for Gilles' son.
This interviewer seems to think that the adaption was catered to our times...feminism, dictators, fanaticism...it's not. It turns out that the source material was written pretty darn well and it was done before modern feminism. Actually, the females in the movie are there in spite of modern feminism. They have incredible depth, being both moral and morally compromised. They have significant flaws and strengths and they're incredibly interesting. If the female characters had been written 'for our time' they'd be insanely boring girl-bosses. Thank goodness they aren't.
I think you are misunderstanding feminism in general but I do agree that female characters in the movies are amazing characters, and that it self is a very feminist take on it, just as you said, "they have significant flaws and strengths and they're incredibly interesting" , as Dennis himself said :) Feminism at its core is the call to see women as equal being to men. No more no less.
@@cesnaanida9235 The way you described feminism certainly was the foundation of the movement when it began. It's gone through several 'waves' since then and is something quite different today. But we can probably agree that over the last decade or so hollywood has gone all in on the 'strong female characters' except that they're perfect girl-bosses that are as interesting as a card-board cut-out and have as much depth as one too. What Dune (the books and the movies) does is portray something far more interesting.
Annoying interviewer tried to make it about “current events” when Herbert was writing decades ago about a non-Fremen space emperor whipping up religious fervor to thread possible futures. Villeneuve had to gently steer the discussion away from that repeatedly and she still didn’t get the hint. Way to sour the mood.
All great sci fi is about being prescient of the future and the events of Dune can absolutely be paralleled to things that have happened the past 10-15. Cry some more you over sensitive, reacitonary chimp.
Moderator is trying too hard ! Chill! Listen to him and bounce. Referring to Kurosawa 7 Samurai was trying too hard and it’s annoying. Moderator, coming across pretentious.
not a blockbuster in the traditional sense at all... much more intelligent and had a grand presentation which is deserved when the fate of the universe rests in the hands of a select few people.
Sorry, but the notion that it's a documentary of modern times is absurd. Spices haven't represented the value they once did in over 100 years, and war has been and will always be a natural phenomenon because of the way conflict works. You don't need politics to make the movie work or to make it more relevant. It needn't be an apologia for people's bankrupt ideologies. It speaks for itself and is its own work and that's it. Art doesn't need propaganda, propaganda needs art. Thanks for such a wonderful escape from life, can't wait for a part III if there is one. For an entire franchise! Please, please, please don't let politics ruin it.
Politics are an inherent part of the Dune you idiotic clod. Herbert wrote it as cautionary tale against autocracy, messiahinic figures and funementalism. If he heard you say "don't let politics ruin it" he would laugh it you and tell you that his books are inherently political. You can let something speak for itself and still be politicial. Also you are being idiotically literal minded with your babble about "spice" and it being a "documentary of modern times". There's thing called allegory you pea brained idiot. You can absolutely equate spice to oil/petrol and how the US invaded the Middle East for its resources to the way the Great Houses on Dune took control Arrakis for its spice/resource. The parallels are there. Think before you open your idiotic mouth you idiotic troglodyte.
Wrong. Finnish names are NOT pronounced with weird English vowels and accented middle syllables. Emphasizing the "O" as much as English-speakers do is to emphasize the "SON" IN "JohnSON", "JackSON" or "PeterSON" since that's exactly the same construction as the Finnish name.
I like what he said “I wasn’t always faithful to the book, but I was always faithful to Frank Herbert.” That’s the right attitude for adapting a book.
Exactly, understanding the essence of the medium you are using
Yeah. He adapted the novel to the time without sacrificing the original themes or message. Couldn't have asked for a better rendition. And given the impetus for writing Dune Messiah I think even Frank Herbert would approve the changes in Part Two made to better emphasize that this was not a 'good' ending to the story, and Paul was not to be lauded.
@@BigMikeMcBastard Though given that Chani hasn't drank the Kool-Aid, does make me wonder how different Messiah would be, should it get made.
I haven’t felt this way watching a film in a long time. I was sweatinggggggg. What a masterpiece. I am going to be so sad once he leaves after dune messiah.
It felt like watching a movie made by the universe, not a human.
makes sense he really said he did his best to erase himself from it (althought thats impossible he knows hed always be a filter)
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@@timothynommensen so so so true. Great cinemas tend to do that 🤌
Me too. i really wish he did all the remaining original books by Frank Herbert every few years. Because he has already established the cinematic language for the movies.
There'll be other wonderful movies still to come from him.
We are fortunate.
Man, imagine how good Dune Messiah could be with Villenueve and the crew having two Dune films of experience
Don’t you mean will be!?
its definitely happening boys, 2026-7 probably
I have not read the book, but Chani pushing back on Paul at every turn in this movie was a great call. I knew she would be a character to watch out for after the first. He has a great instinct.
I think it's a good change, because it certainly fits within the personality/identity of the Fremen, and other ideas discussed in the book by other characters, especially in later books, i am super fascinated how Villeneuve will adapt Messiah because it is completely turning the religious saviour narrative on its head and characters like Irulan and Chani have a pretty big role in it. It'll be amazing to Zendaya and Florence have a proper verbal sparring match and act their hearts out because I think Messiah has great dramatic potential even if its very tough to convince an audience to watch their idea of a hero be twisted like that.
Yeah in the book once she believes that Paul is the Lisan al-Ghaib she basically just becomes an accessory and fades into the background even more. I felt it was very disappointing at the time and I'm glad it was changed to better emphasize the dire nature of Paul's ascent.
Our current society would not have been ok with her being submissive and complacent to his choices.
@@julesjma I thought he went the progressive, ahead of her time route with Chani, but after learning the authors intent with the story, it was a good route.
I like it on paper-not so much in practice. Zendaya is such an amateurish, one note actress that I found her difficult to take seriously.
The cinematography and soundtrack in this movie are both the greatest things I’ve ever experienced in IMAX. Paul pulling the sandworm up and hearing the wind rush in with that high pitch before Hans’ soundtrack kicks in as Paul takes waves and waves of sand crashing down was just unbelievable. Lots of moments all over the film like the Bene Gesserit’s powers being used demanded this level of sound design to be as effective as it was. I really can’t get over how incredible this was, I’ve seen it 4 times trying to nitpick problems and I really can’t. It’s an extremely rare 10 out of 10 and I’m so happy to be alive to experience it. We need a directors cut that’s as long as possible!
As someone who deeply loves cinema, it was an absolute joy to watch this film. It feels like the culmination of cinema's 120+ year history. Thank you to the Dune Part Two team!
That would be going, perhaps, too far, but it's definitely a blockbuster people longed for. Can't remember the last time I had the "edge of the seat" experience in the theatre before that.
Absolutely 🤌
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I vote you make dune messiah 4+ hours long with an intermission in the theater showing. and please do an extended version of Dune 2. we need more of this universe. im going to see Dune 2 again tomorrow and then on Tuesday as well. this feels like something special just happened in our culture.
I've never seen a film in theaters as many times as Dune: Part Two. Thank you Denis Villeneuve and cast and crew and Hans Zimmer for this masterpiece of cinema.
AND GREG FRASER!!!!!
4:07 “Goodbye, my Sihaya”
The Man, the Myth, The Legend.
The sound has been phenomenal on both films.
thanks for uploading this!!!
I m from québec and i love Denis and his works. It s an ok interview but i would have love to hear him more. The questions were not great, but he found a way to bring us in his creative universe anyway. Thanks.
(She does not seem to know well the books. Common, not kill zendaya?)
I was not talking about denis but the question from the interviewer. Denis knows bettern that Chani has a too great role not to kill her, except at the birth of the twin.
That death will break the messiah
It’s the most perfect film I’ve ever seen and I will go back again and again
What a gorgeous man. His voice is like warm milk.
4:07 yeah about that…
This is a massive spoiler :/
So as a result of this film I listened to a 1965 interview with Frank Herbert as well as a David Lynch roasting of his own film calling it, “putrification” and finally Denis view of the work he describes as becoming more and more relevant today.
1:58 "... you see all the mistakes you've done"
I wish she'd asked: what mistakes did you see in the first film? That would have been an enlightening question.. oh well!
About Hans Zimmer: I especially liked that, this time, Zimmer took over some portions of Toto´s soundtrack for David Lynch´s adaptation.
seen it three times now and its only gotten better just a wonderful adaption, i just wish paul and chandi had better chemistry in the first kiss scene is maybe the only flaw i can find
4:15 BIG Oof for DUNE:Messiah
This is a massive spoiler :/
"I didn't fit into the robot suit."
What did he mean by that?
@@noreavad Zendaya wore an outfit by a French designer made in the 90s that looks like a robot from the film Metropolis at one of the Dune Part Two premieres.
I was always pretty convinced it was the spacing guild who controlled everything behind the scenes and not the sisterhood, time to reread the books again I suppose.
That was in the 84 film version
You're correct. They are. Denis gutted the story and characters. You're only getting roughly 50% of the book in character, plot and world building terms.
@@humbleopulence The Spacing Guild are an important faction but they did not orchestrate the Atreides massacre
@@theavatar9191 doesn't matter. If you don't make a movie thats slow paced all over as opposed to in parts, you could've fit most of the book into two films. Denis just doesn't know how to work with a fluctuating pace, only with a monotonous one.
@@humbleopulence I don't think the point of the adaptation was to fit as many details of the book as possible into 2 films
Dune Messiah (2026)
Tagline: The Empire Rises
Directed by Denis Villeneuve
Screenplay by Hampton Fancher Jon Spaihts & Eric Roth
Based on Dune Messiah by Frank Herbert
Produced by Mary Parent Cale Boyter Patrick McCormick Tanya Lapointe & Denis Villeneuve
Cinematography Greig Fraser
Music by Hans Zimmer (Hans Will Composed 29 Tracks in 94 Minutes)
Runtime: 174 Minutes (2 Hours and 54 Minutes)
Premise: 13 Years After Dune Part Two Paul Muad'Dib Atreides Becomes the Emperor Of Arrakis As He Face's His Demons From the Past To Take Over Arrakis Once More
Cast
Ryan Gosling as Paul Muad'Dib Atreides
Timothée Chalamet as Young Paul Muad'Dib Atreides
Margot Robbie as Queen Irulan Corrino
Florence Pugh as Young Irulan Corrino
Rosario Dawson as Chani
Zendaya as Young Chani
Anya Taylor-Joy as Alia Atreides
Rebecca Ferguson as Reverend Mother Jessica
Javier Bardem as Stilgar
Josh Brolin as Gurney Halleck
Christopher Walken as Emperor Shaddam IV
Charlotte Rampling as Reverend Mother Helen Mohiam
Tim Blake Nelson as Edric
Walker Scobell as Leto Atreides II
Mckenna Grace as Ghanima Atreides
When French accent meets French accent.
He’s a truly great film maker ❤
People keep giving "Oppenheimer" the credit for the retransfer to 70mm film, when, as I understand it, Matt Reeves was the first to do it for a major film with "The Batman".
Am I wrong?
I haven’t even read the books and I can tell this interviewer didn’t do her homework. The fact that she says Zendaya and not Chani… Villeneuve must be a patient man.
She was so annoying.
Because she was talking about the actor and not the character idiot?
Great to hear from Denis, but the interviewer should at least know the book. I mean really
The book has been out for 60 years, eventually everyone dies, with the exception of
DUNCAN IDAHO
Why do you have to do this my god y’all are terrible
"The sport is more important than anything. More important than any of the people in it. Of course I say what I think. I always have, even if it upsets people like Ecclestone and Balestre. Why should I be afraid of them? The fans aren't here to see politicians and manipulators. They're here to see Alain and Mario and Carlos and me. I am very secure in my feelings about racing. I make a lot of money from it, but one thing I can tell you for sure: if the money disappeared overnight, I would still be in racing, because I love it. The entrepreneurs would be gone." Gilles Villeneuve. Replace motor racing with cinema and Denis could easily pass for Gilles' son.
The Bene Gesserit controls the Dune universe, what is this lady talks about!!!
The interviewer is annoying with her biases. I'd prefer to just have Denis talking.
🤙🤙
Interviewer wasn’t great this time.
it's funny that in every interview Denis is always told how "current" the story is, he has to remind the book was written in the sixties... *EYEROLL*
He said the book is coming more relevant by the year lmao
@@Thurnishaley6969 Yeah seriously, do these reactionary moron have any basic listening or comprehension skills?
This interviewer seems to think that the adaption was catered to our times...feminism, dictators, fanaticism...it's not. It turns out that the source material was written pretty darn well and it was done before modern feminism. Actually, the females in the movie are there in spite of modern feminism. They have incredible depth, being both moral and morally compromised. They have significant flaws and strengths and they're incredibly interesting. If the female characters had been written 'for our time' they'd be insanely boring girl-bosses. Thank goodness they aren't.
dawg shut up lmao
I think you are misunderstanding feminism in general but I do agree that female characters in the movies are amazing characters, and that it self is a very feminist take on it, just as you said, "they have significant flaws and strengths and they're incredibly interesting" , as Dennis himself said :)
Feminism at its core is the call to see women as equal being to men. No more no less.
@@cesnaanida9235 The way you described feminism certainly was the foundation of the movement when it began. It's gone through several 'waves' since then and is something quite different today.
But we can probably agree that over the last decade or so hollywood has gone all in on the 'strong female characters' except that they're perfect girl-bosses that are as interesting as a card-board cut-out and have as much depth as one too. What Dune (the books and the movies) does is portray something far more interesting.
@@byucatch22 I mean I would argue they turned Chani to a prett boring one dimensional girl boss. Not that it matters you reactionary moron.
Annoying interviewer tried to make it about “current events” when Herbert was writing decades ago about a non-Fremen space emperor whipping up religious fervor to thread possible futures. Villeneuve had to gently steer the discussion away from that repeatedly and she still didn’t get the hint. Way to sour the mood.
All great sci fi is about being prescient of the future and the events of Dune can absolutely be paralleled to things that have happened the past 10-15. Cry some more you over sensitive, reacitonary chimp.
Moderator is trying too hard ! Chill!
Listen to him and bounce.
Referring to Kurosawa 7 Samurai was trying too hard and it’s annoying.
Moderator, coming across pretentious.
She’s only comparing his compositional abilities with Kurosawa. They’re both good at it. There’s nothing wrong with this comparison lol.
Denis literally said in another interview that Kurosawa movies inspired Dune Part Two
That’s Florence Almonzini, one of the 3 people who organized this series.
Up there with Lawrence of Arabia
Shes not a great interviewer
Will Paul be recasted in messiah ‽
If you kill Zendaya😅😅 OH boy....
not a blockbuster in the traditional sense at all... much more intelligent and had a grand presentation which is deserved when the fate of the universe rests in the hands of a select few people.
Sorry, but the notion that it's a documentary of modern times is absurd. Spices haven't represented the value they once did in over 100 years, and war has been and will always be a natural phenomenon because of the way conflict works. You don't need politics to make the movie work or to make it more relevant. It needn't be an apologia for people's bankrupt ideologies. It speaks for itself and is its own work and that's it. Art doesn't need propaganda, propaganda needs art. Thanks for such a wonderful escape from life, can't wait for a part III if there is one. For an entire franchise! Please, please, please don't let politics ruin it.
Politics are an inherent part of the Dune you idiotic clod. Herbert wrote it as cautionary tale against autocracy, messiahinic figures and funementalism. If he heard you say "don't let politics ruin it" he would laugh it you and tell you that his books are inherently political. You can let something speak for itself and still be politicial. Also you are being idiotically literal minded with your babble about "spice" and it being a "documentary of modern times". There's thing called allegory you pea brained idiot. You can absolutely equate spice to oil/petrol and how the US invaded the Middle East for its resources to the way the Great Houses on Dune took control Arrakis for its spice/resource. The parallels are there. Think before you open your idiotic mouth you idiotic troglodyte.
This interviewer is horrible omgggggg
These type of events often have pandering nervous hosts.
Please do not have her moderate again
who is this interviewer? why is she there?
Honestly most of the Lincoln Center interviewers are boring
Pronounce Har ko nnen properly and I might consider watching. Har ko, not Har ka.
🙄
Wrong. Finnish names are NOT pronounced with weird English vowels and accented middle syllables.
Emphasizing the "O" as much as English-speakers do is to emphasize the "SON" IN "JohnSON", "JackSON" or "PeterSON" since that's exactly the same construction as the Finnish name.
Sorry but that’s an incredibly stupid reason to not watch a movie
My ears are bleeding because of this interviewer's accent