@@nathansmith7153 Well, both of those fires were started by diesel Range Rovers catching fire of course and if the car parks had been fitted with a full sprinkler system then they would have contained it to that area and it would not have spread to other cars around. So, yes, absence of sprinkler systems let to the total destruction of both of those multi storey car parks really.
LOL.... i'd say, Evs only to POLITICIANS, LAWMAKERS, REGULATORignorants S and maybe also the 700 ignorants and fakers over there in BRUSSELS (did i hear that EACH one makes almost 50 THOUSAND euros a MONTH????!!!! over 400 Million a year??!! maybe? out with 646 of them, keep only 54, that is 2 per country needed, no more thievery , go away, you are hurting the whole of Europe now). Evs did not work in 1900, they are dieing now too; CO2 is the best thing humankind ever had, trees and plants NEED CO2,they will DIE without it; what do you thing the trunk of plants and trees, imagine big, huge, trees, their cellulose trunks came from? what? from where? they came from the AIR, more precisely from the CO2,plus water and H2; they keep the C and they give us back the O2, that WE NEED; i am ok with fossil fuels, no Evs for me yet,they are not ready for mass consumption; ONE man promoted all this craze, this religion, by his own thoughts, but it seems that he might have thought wrong, time will tell, you can't fool Nature for ever.
Yes…. But they’ll quietly drip feed it at a low level. Remember that other government endorsed and incentivise product that was “ 100% safe and 100% effective “ ?
EVs should not be allowed to park next to or near other ICE vehicles. EVs should not be allowed to park next to or near other EVs. EVs should not be allowed to park next to or near houses, hospitals, or homes of any other description. And that's just a bare minimum requirement.
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 You don't seem to be very well educated in the latest facts. Just look up some fire service facts, how many fire men have been injured when EVs explode is a fact you should see.
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 EV are very dangerous when they ignite and burn at much higher temperatures not to mention the highly toxic chemicals again much more dangerous than the ICE plus their range is utter crap. You also failed to mention that the amount of co2 is produced just to make one battery is astonishing especially when mining compared to the co2 produced by ICE they are not FIT for their purposes
@@SuperBartet You are the one who has not taken the trouble to educate yourself on this subject. You seem content to believe the sensationalist stories coming out of the media. If you really want to understand car fires in general I suggest you look at the data on car fires. You may want to start with the NTSB (USA) data and the CCA (Sweden), then you will understand the subject more fully. These are just two examples of agencies who have been collecting data on thousands of car fires for decades. As an example there are on average 300 car fires per day in the UK, so there's a lot of data around. Car fires are measured by fuel type per 100,000 vehicles and the data is quite clear on which type of cars are the safest. And BTW, EVs don't 'explode'.
Or a car park like Luton airport 😲 .........wait 🤔 that was a diesel Range rover, or the Liverpool car park fire😲.......... Ooohh wait , that was another range rover 🤣😂
I took a stena ferry recently and I checked their policy on ev,s ,can u imagine if one of those caught fire on a ship.however the policy with is they are not allowed to board if any damage is caused to the car.does this mean they are going to inspect every ev that boards it doesn't make any sense.
Normally, cars in a showroom have almost empty fuel tanks, or are actually empty. Of course, you can't leave an EV on 'empty'; bad for the batteries. Here's a thought. There are a couple of locations (Bristol docks being one) where there are literally thousands of the things parked next to one another. If one of those ignited, the chain reaction ...
@@nathansmith7153WOW! Easy Tiger.... EASY! You sound like you're so mad you could just cry! What happened? Did you get misgendered again, or did you just find out what the resale value of your EV is? BAHAHAHAHA!!!! 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
This is why "investigations are still ongoing", they need time to come up with a semi believable excuse that would make any EV in the vicinity look like an innocent victim in all this.
It's silly that they keep saying it was a diesel when they want to take the blame away from EVs, because diesel is so difficult to set fire, why don't they say it was a petrol? This just shows how stupid the people that defend EVs are.
I’d rather risk a parking ticket on a street than park in a multi story carpark these days, it’s cheaper than paying more insurance once a rouge EV self combusting, which is highly likely to happen in hot weather.
There's several reports in the US where rear passengers in teslas could not escape and died in the infernos .. This was due too NO REAR MECAHNICAL door handle... as a result when the electrics fried that was it no escape...
Near to this fire there is cribbs causeway mall. On the second level, in the middle of the shopping centre is a Polestar showroom with three battery electric vehicles on show to the public. How is this possible knowing the fire risks …?
To do a safety risk assessment you take the likelihood of a hazard happening and multiply it by the severity of the risk, so something with very little impact will be classed as low risk even if it is quite likely to happen, where as something that would be catastrophic is ranked as high risk even if it would happen rarely. So a petrol or diesel engine fire in an indoor car park with a sprinkler system that can put the fire out would be classed as manageable. Whereas if the sprinkler System cannot put out an EV fire then that would be classed as an unacceptable, and not a place to allow EV’s to park.
It’s simples. The politicians want to have total control. An electric car is more expensive and less capable than a petrol car. Therefore mobility will be reduced, unless you can afford a luxury car. Restricting the mobility of poor people is a great way to keep them poor.
1. Create public fear (we need to save planet) using flawed “scientific” studies. 2. Green movement is born. 3. EVs are green. 4. Heavily subsidize EV makers in bills and offer tax incentives. No one objects because we’re saving planet. 5. Include thousands of earmarks and pork barrel spending in green legislation that have nothing to do with green but will get politician elected.
Well there's no disputing that if an EV is involved in a fire , it will be dangerous for anyone near it due to toxic smoke , and of course the massive heat generated by EV batteries when they go into thermal runaway and anything nearby be it other vehicles or buildings . Perhaps they really should look at seperating EVs with a greater bigger space , and of course if you are going to do it properly given the danger EVs are , you would think building codes need to be revised as well ! And that of course also means fire suppression systems in buildings should be upgraded and in a hurry if these ridiculous EV mandates are to be adhered to ! This EV mandate thing was a government idea ...... So they should pay. It's bad enough car drivers are being required to go out and buy inferior EVs , so definitely government should pay all the extra costs of adoption the inferior EV .
I have just joined you on this channel, finally someone talking about EV serious problems that are being swept under the carpet. All so enjoying your car reviews.
Well as an intensely anti EV individual mate I think that EV's should be taken off the net zero agenda and frankly I will not park anywhere within any distance from one of these insane vehicles. Thta is not only do I not want my ICE car involved but definitely DO NOT want to be exposed to those toxic and explosive gases and materials generated by these lithium ion battery fires.
Since the dealers can't sell these EV's perhaps this is the best way they have found of disposing of unsold stock. I hope no customers cars were lost in the inferno.
There is active surpression of any EV fire reports in the media in the UK and blame is quickly shifted elsewhere as in the Luton cat park fire everyone could see the flames like a jet coming from the side of the vehicle yet they say it was a diesel vehicle but if that is the case why are insurance company's refusing claims due to an EV causing the fire ? and why did insurance premiums suddenly escalate for the hybrid Range Rovers making them impossible for all but the super rich to insure.
Car Dealer Online have confirmed that the Fire Service have confirmed it was an EV that started the fire. BBC Bristol are also running with this, so there's every chance it's 100% accurate.
I thought the same, imagine lines of milk floats parked nose to tail in urban streets with rows of houses maybe just feet away!! No doubt being charged at night for cheaper rates whilst most people are in bed! 😮 We can only hope that they come up with something better by then. Or perhaps nobody will be allowed to own a car at all! 🙄
I'd like to see all EVs have the mandatory green flash on the number plate, so I can make sure I park a good distance away. Doesn't stop an EV then parking next to me, but it reduces my changes of getting mine destroyed.
What i don't understand is how is it so that there are more and more car fire's of all types, ev's, petrol, diesel today ! 20ys ago it was quite rare. My gess is quality
A fossil car burns every 3-5 minutts in the US alone. 2 persons dies from it every day. And, and EV isn't a fossil car with big batteries. Even thought the fossil sect say so... The car that has cased the most fires are Opel/Wokshall Zafira diesel. This car has been recalled over 3 times over decades. If you look at Norway where 26% of all cars on the roads are EV's there are less fires. The fire departementet says that a fire in crampt spaces is also imposible to put out. EV's are easier, because there are no fuel leaking out on the floor. If the UK needs help here, just ask.
When will you EV lot get it into your heads.. MORE ICE means more it seems like more fires yet when you do the actual damn maths which you lot can't seem too do the EV fires tend to be the same as ICE and in some case slightly higher PER 1000 cars... You harp on about damn facts yet ignore them when it suits you... Oh and I check your Norway claim and I suggest everyone else do the same,., YOU ARE WRONG it is similar t o whats stated in my comment...
The fire was obviously caused by a horse, which exploded after being left unattended to refuel on a nosebag full of oats. Oh, when will this horse-nosebag madness end? Hey a mustang is a wild horse, so maybe we should ban Mustangs, too. Can't be too careful...
I make a point of parking far away if I see an EV. Like go across to the other end of the parking area kinda thing. Don’t see the point over a few extra steps. They’re usually an eyesore anyway
you say ev fires . well here in Basingstoke there building a huge battery bank complex on the Tadley road . so muliiple container size full of batteries will be sited . OMG
You'll know what I'm talking about here. I used to work at AWRE in '85 & '86. We both know what's produced there. I hope the container is a good distance away. I lived in Old Basing btw.
Any word what happened just it could have been a petrol car and my friends thinking of buying one and I'm worried because you know petrols explosive. Also it seems to profit dictatorships.
EV batteries are a time bomb waiting to go off. If it's not faulty or poor manufacture that causes it then the dendrites forming between the electrodes will, eventually, short out.
EV's should be parked on the Top Level (roof). Of any multistory car park. Or a designated areas on. Ground level parking areas. Failure to do so. Is a "High" penalty ticket fine.
Even if the EV did NOT start the fire, once burning it would an awful lot harder to extinguish. Now I see they want to ban ICE motorcycles in the UK. I wonder what a comparison of the emissions from one EV fire, to those from a motorcycle lifetime would look like.
Worldwide stats show that fossil fuelled cars are 20 to 40 times more likely to catch fire than EVs. Depends whether you include hybrids with batteries and a petrol engine in the petrol or EV category or not. And that's pro rata the total fleet sizes and not just numbers. For sure, an EV fire is harder to put out but that's a different issue. On stats alone we should be more bothered about being parked next to a petrol car if fire is a phobia that keeps you awake. In any case the EVs most prone to fire are the early tech ones from 6 to 10 years ago and those kind of batteries have now been phased out. More recent batteries use a totally different chemical content and tests have driven nails through them without overheating. Over time those older tech EVs will all be off the road and the later EVs with new tech batteries, that are far less likely to combust, will become the majority.
I think EV should be banned completely and return to petrol and diesel. As for EV they should have their own designated spaces away from petrol and diesel cars that way ICE are protected and the EV parked together can burn in hell that’s my take on this
And the grift goes on. You could at least be honest enough to call your channel 'Confirmation bias - come and hear what you want to hear'. In the meantime, here's somethings you don't want to hear. Fossil fuels are finite. Man-made climate change is real. The most efficient and practical way of driving an axle is with an electric motor.
So sad to hear such nonsense about EVs from you. There are millions of Teslas on the roads around the world. Virtually none catch on fire while old ICE cars catch on fire all the time, they just don’t make the news. It’s your videos that helped me decide to buy a 1st gen R8 V10/manual, but EVs are still the future if we want to have breathe clean air in the cities and stop the dependancy on oil from Russia/Middle East.
The problem isn't EVs. It's batteries. Lithium Ion batteries, especially large ones, should never have been tested on the public until they had the fire issues sorted.
Data from EV FireSafe, which is backed by the Australian Government, states that petrol cars are over 80 times more likely to set on fire than EVs. Swedish Civil Contingencies Agency found in 2022 there was an average of 3.8 fires per 100,000 electric and hybrid cars, and 68 fires per 100,000 cars of all fuel types.
Does that control for vehicle age, in other words as EVs age and approach the average age of ICE vehicles will they tend towards similar rates of catching fire? Will it be less, maybe more? Could newer batteries be safer, or less safe? the way new diesels can have fires caused by the particulate filter systems.
@@joytotheworld9109 The statistics are so overwhelmingly in favour of EVs that statistically factors like those you suggest wouldn’t be statistically significant. I’m not sure why a diesel filter is a factor in any event as part and parcel of modern diesels.
@@gesp5151 Wouldn't or couldn't? I don't see large numbers of 10 to 15 year old EV's in daily use to begin to form an opinion. I was comparing ICE tech changing to battery tech changing. Filters can get very hot during regen and start fires. Older roadgoing diesels or modern mining/off road only diesels lack this equipment and so don't have that fire risk. Newer Lithium Ion batteries are generally much bigger capacity older batteries, with different chemistry. This may, like the improved filtering on diesels, give them different fire issues.
@@joytotheworld9109 Well Tesla alone have sold 5m EVs! Your point about Diesel cars is actually against them: on your argument older diesels without the tech/filters are less of a fire risk so diesel fire risk is likely proportionality to increase. The differential statistically is so huge in favour of EVs that there would need to be a massive overriding statistical change to alter the position. Probably why more car insurance when down when I chopped in a £2k old diesel for a £50k EV (which costs me nothing because the charging savings exceed interest repayments!).
@@gesp5151 5 million EVs, but how many over 15 years ago, and were they the same battery tech they're using now? You're right, modern, more complex diesels need more careful engineering. But they are much cleaner, less thirsty, and have huge pulling power - which is why the world runs on diesel, well diesel, jet fuel, and ship oil. The stats aren't in yet is my entire point - we'll start getting a clear picture as the average EV age creeps up, say in about 5 to 10 years for most brands, with good data about a decade after that.
Imagine these underneath an apartment building.
The sprinkler system is useless against an EV fire.
And gas fires too.
Agreed. But they will stop it spreading to other cars around that single car.
@@Hitstirrer So is that why the Liverpool and Luton car parks burned down?
@@nathansmith7153 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@nathansmith7153 Well, both of those fires were started by diesel Range Rovers catching fire of course and if the car parks had been fitted with a full sprinkler system then they would have contained it to that area and it would not have spread to other cars around. So, yes, absence of sprinkler systems let to the total destruction of both of those multi storey car parks really.
Bumper Sticker - 'Gota EV, No Parking Near Me'
Should EVs be allowed to park with other cars. I don't think that is the right question, I think the question is, Should EVs be allowed in the UK.
One can dream…
Screw you. Your stupid ICE cars have been killing people for decades.
LOL.... i'd say, Evs only to POLITICIANS, LAWMAKERS, REGULATORignorants
S and maybe also the 700 ignorants and fakers over there in BRUSSELS (did i hear that EACH one makes almost 50 THOUSAND euros a MONTH????!!!! over 400 Million a year??!!
maybe? out with 646 of them, keep only 54, that is 2 per country needed, no more thievery , go away, you are hurting the whole of Europe now).
Evs did not work in 1900, they are dieing now too; CO2 is the best thing humankind ever had, trees and plants NEED CO2,they will DIE without it; what do you thing the trunk of plants and trees, imagine big, huge, trees, their cellulose trunks came from? what? from where?
they came from the AIR, more precisely from the CO2,plus water and H2; they keep the C and they give us back the O2, that WE NEED; i am ok with fossil fuels, no Evs for me yet,they are not ready for mass consumption; ONE man promoted all this craze, this religion, by his own thoughts, but it seems that he might have thought wrong, time will tell, you can't fool Nature for ever.
An EV is 50 times less likely to catch fire than an ICE car, and that's a fact.
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 only because the EV has taken out 50 other cars parked around it 😂😂😂
Loved the sarcasm in "perhaps we'll find out it was a diesel Landrover".
They will have to come clean about this in the end!!
Yes - your freaking ICE cars burn 19 times more often. Now, go away.
roundabout the time it's too late for the masss majority who was pushed intp usiing EVs to get rid of them..
Yes…. But they’ll quietly drip feed it at a low level. Remember that other government endorsed and incentivise product that was “ 100% safe and 100% effective “ ?
@@karlhulme8014 ICE cars aren't either. They trashed the planet. EV's work despite what this clueless clown says
It was an EV
He'll no they shouldn't be allowed to park with other cars, they shouldn't be aloud inside the city limits.
You know what’s crazy… I was in Modena, Italy lately and ONLY EV’s were allowed in the main streets of the city centre. Insane!
You shouldn't be allowed out on the street. Too clueless
@@nathansmith7153WOW! Why so butt hurt little fella? You must have just found out what the resale value of your EV is! BAHAHAHAHA!!!! 😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡
EVs should not be allowed to park next to or near other ICE vehicles.
EVs should not be allowed to park next to or near other EVs.
EVs should not be allowed to park next to or near houses, hospitals, or homes of any other description.
And that's just a bare minimum requirement.
EVs are the safest cars in production and should be allowed to park anywhere.
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 You don't seem to be very well educated in the latest facts. Just look up some fire service facts, how many fire men have been injured when EVs explode is a fact you should see.
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 EV are very dangerous when they ignite and burn at much higher temperatures not to mention the highly toxic chemicals again much more dangerous than the ICE plus their range is utter crap. You also failed to mention that the amount of co2 is produced just to make one battery is astonishing especially when mining compared to the co2 produced by ICE they are not FIT for their purposes
@@SuperBartet You are the one who has not taken the trouble to educate yourself on this subject. You seem content to believe the sensationalist stories coming out of the media. If you really want to understand car fires in general I suggest you look at the data on car fires. You may want to start with the NTSB (USA) data and the CCA (Sweden), then you will understand the subject more fully. These are just two examples of agencies who have been collecting data on thousands of car fires for decades. As an example there are on average 300 car fires per day in the UK, so there's a lot of data around. Car fires are measured by fuel type per 100,000 vehicles and the data is quite clear on which type of cars are the safest. And BTW, EVs don't 'explode'.
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 EVs are only the safest cars in the same way that EV owners are the most intelligent people.
Sadly this will happen on a ferry or in a tunnel, which will be a national disaster to where it happens.
Or a car park like Luton airport 😲 .........wait 🤔 that was a diesel Range rover, or the Liverpool car park fire😲.......... Ooohh wait , that was another range rover 🤣😂
I cant wait.
Park your EVs at your politicians home...
In their garages
I never park next to or near an Ev.
I took a stena ferry recently and I checked their policy on ev,s ,can u imagine if one of those caught fire on a ship.however the policy with is they are not allowed to board if any damage is caused to the car.does this mean they are going to inspect every ev that boards it doesn't make any sense.
I can't believe EVs or any car with a lithium battery would be allowed to park indoors or underground anywhere.
Normally, cars in a showroom have almost empty fuel tanks, or are actually empty. Of course, you can't leave an EV on 'empty'; bad for the batteries. Here's a thought. There are a couple of locations (Bristol docks being one) where there are literally thousands of the things parked next to one another. If one of those ignited, the chain reaction ...
Yes that's one hell of a fire if that goes up
You know nothing about EVS
@@nathansmith7153WOW!
Easy Tiger.... EASY!
You sound like you're so mad you could just cry!
What happened?
Did you get misgendered again, or did you just find out what the resale value of your EV is?
BAHAHAHAHA!!!! 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@nathansmith7153 LOL yes Nathan only you know anything I guess...
@@hudsonbear5038 You and the clown that writes this garbage know sweet FA about cars
I was in the Fire Service 30yrs. and knew where a fire started on every one I attended .. really isn't rocket science!!
Thanks for commenting given your experience!
The black smoke is eco friendly
EV'S are a curse on this country 🇬🇧
Prediction time. Was an EV but authorities will say it was a diesel.
Stupid people will believe it
This is why "investigations are still ongoing", they need time to come up with a semi believable excuse that would make any EV in the vicinity look like an innocent victim in all this.
It's silly that they keep saying it was a diesel when they want to take the blame away from EVs, because diesel is so difficult to set fire, why don't they say it was a petrol? This just shows how stupid the people that defend EVs are.
Good things someone standing up for the little guy opec.
Insurance company should demand segregation to put ev in containers make provisions otherwise your not insured
Scaremongering nonsense.
Still spreading scaremongering speculation, eh? “We’d just be speculating”…but I’ll just stick it in the title anyway - good click bait.
@@ochayethegnu2915what's the resale value of your EV, little fella? BAHAHAHAHA!!! 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@ochayethegnu2915 Guess you own an EV...LOL could you park in the field5kms away please???
I’d rather risk a parking ticket on a street than park in a multi story carpark these days, it’s cheaper than paying more insurance once a rouge EV self combusting, which is highly likely to happen in hot weather.
The MacMaster went into why we don't hear much negativity about EV's a few weeks ago, apparently they've been told not to!
Because it is all stupid click bait - just like this clown.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 as if
He's got a great channel!
@@NinoPrez007 if you 3
@@NinoPrez007 A guy who knows nothing about cars or EVs ranting for clicks
You know what, I don't think EV's are safe, I would be worried to park one in my garage.
More investigation into these batteries needs to be done.
That's because you are clueless. Sorry about that
@@nathansmith7153 so you know better do you.
@nathansmith7153 Go and buy one , good luck.
@@kevingriffin6199 I've got two. 5 years no repairs and 3p a mile . You are just flat ignorant
@@kevingriffin6199Kev probably has one
One of these days someone will be injured or worse. I can’t believe they allow these death traps on the road.
There's several reports in the US where rear passengers in teslas could not escape and died in the infernos .. This was due too NO REAR MECAHNICAL door handle... as a result when the electrics fried that was it no escape...
Near to this fire there is cribbs causeway mall. On the second level, in the middle of the shopping centre is a Polestar showroom with three battery electric vehicles on show to the public. How is this possible knowing the fire risks …?
Who says they actually have a battery install?
To do a safety risk assessment you take the likelihood of a hazard happening and multiply it by the severity of the risk, so something with very little impact will be classed as low risk even if it is quite likely to happen, where as something that would be catastrophic is ranked as high risk even if it would happen rarely.
So a petrol or diesel engine fire in an indoor car park with a sprinkler system that can put the fire out would be classed as manageable.
Whereas if the sprinkler System cannot put out an EV fire then that would be classed as an unacceptable, and not a place to allow EV’s to park.
Why are politicians heavily promoting EVs while ignoring other options such as synthetic fuels? Can anyone explain, please?
It’s simples. The politicians want to have total control. An electric car is more expensive and less capable than a petrol car. Therefore mobility will be reduced, unless you can afford a luxury car. Restricting the mobility of poor people is a great way to keep them poor.
Net Zero (their words, not mine). I wouldn’t ask a politician to explain though, I value my time and sanity.
1. Create public fear (we need to save planet) using flawed “scientific” studies.
2. Green movement is born.
3. EVs are green.
4. Heavily subsidize EV makers in bills and offer tax incentives. No one objects because we’re saving planet.
5. Include thousands of earmarks and pork barrel spending in green legislation that have nothing to do with green but will get politician elected.
Because they are bought and paid for.
I'm thinking Control....net zero...brainwashing...government agendas....
It's like storing a box of TNT next to the gas hob.
Well there's no disputing that if an EV is involved in a fire , it will be dangerous for anyone near it due to toxic smoke , and of course the massive heat generated by EV batteries when they go into thermal runaway and anything nearby be it other vehicles or buildings .
Perhaps they really should look at seperating EVs with a greater bigger space , and of course if you are going to do it properly given the danger EVs are , you would think building codes need to be revised as well !
And that of course also means fire suppression systems in buildings should be upgraded and in a hurry if these ridiculous EV mandates are to be adhered to !
This EV mandate thing was a government idea ...... So they should pay.
It's bad enough car drivers are being required to go out and buy inferior EVs , so definitely government should pay all the extra costs of adoption the inferior EV .
Keep on with your reporting, someone has to wake up the brainwashed masses! Green what green ??
I have just joined you on this channel, finally someone talking about EV serious problems that are being swept under the carpet. All so enjoying your car reviews.
I hope my neighbour`s don`t buy an EV
Why - because they will tell you stories about how much cheaper it is to drive?
I moved house 6 months ago for that reason . Far too dangerous.
Especially if you need to notify your House Insurance
Evs don't look good outside council house's 😂😂😂
@@nathansmith7153 Nah,he doesnt associate with pedophiles.
I won’t park my car anywhere near an ev , as far away as possible
Keep them apart ✔️
Yes 100 percent 👍 park the Ev’s & ice vehicles separately!
Well as an intensely anti EV individual mate I think that EV's should be taken off the net zero agenda and frankly I will not park anywhere within any distance from one of these insane vehicles. Thta is not only do I not want my ICE car involved but definitely DO NOT want to be exposed to those toxic and explosive gases and materials generated by these lithium ion battery fires.
BBC - Fire was 'mostly peaceful'
And was gender neutral.
Since the dealers can't sell these EV's perhaps this is the best way they have found of disposing of unsold stock.
I hope no customers cars were lost in the inferno.
The hush up squad will point the finger at a diesel just like they did at Luton.
EV's: saving the planet; one uncontrollable burning inferno at a time.
What more German cars gone up in smoke. 🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵
I expect it was started by an EV, but it's wise not to speculate - at least until we are told it was a diesel Land Rover. 😉
There is active surpression of any EV fire reports in the media in the UK and blame is quickly shifted elsewhere as in the Luton cat park fire everyone could see the flames like a jet coming from the side of the vehicle yet they say it was a diesel vehicle but if that is the case why are insurance company's refusing claims due to an EV causing the fire ? and why did insurance premiums suddenly escalate for the hybrid Range Rovers making them impossible for all but the super rich to insure.
Car Dealer Online have confirmed that the Fire Service have confirmed it was an EV that started the fire. BBC Bristol are also running with this, so there's every chance it's 100% accurate.
And, when everyone owns an EV..........
I thought the same, imagine lines of milk floats parked nose to tail in urban streets with rows of houses maybe just feet away!! No doubt being charged at night for cheaper rates whilst most people are in bed! 😮 We can only hope that they come up with something better by then. Or perhaps nobody will be allowed to own a car at all! 🙄
And when will that be bird brain?
Stop, Drop and Roll!
I'd like to see all EVs have the mandatory green flash on the number plate, so I can make sure I park a good distance away.
Doesn't stop an EV then parking next to me, but it reduces my changes of getting mine destroyed.
It is just a matter of time before a EV (sorry diesel landrover) starts a wildfire in the countryside .
It's extremely dangerous when EV's are in fires.
It was a fire we couldn’t put out for 24 hours but it wasn’t an EV fire😂😂😂
Was it an EV fire? Ask the insurance companies ,,, THEY know.
EV is shortened from EVIL
Are they qualified to work on evs
Good luck to EV owners parking EVs near their family homes
Should Evs be allowed to park near homes?
How was the car dealership doing in sales?
What i don't understand is how is it so that there are more and more car fire's of all types, ev's, petrol, diesel today ! 20ys ago it was quite rare. My gess is quality
It was probably a diesel car. Same as the one at this airport fire
Was this fire in a LEZ (low emission zone)?
yes EV's should be allowed to park in a car park... preferably off the coast of Greenland
They will cover it up like thay did in are area big showroom went up !!!
No speculation at all,it was a diesel,period.Next question.Should you be allowed to smoke in a fireworks factory?
A fossil car burns every 3-5 minutts in the US alone.
2 persons dies from it every day.
And, and EV isn't a fossil car with big batteries.
Even thought the fossil sect say so...
The car that has cased the most fires are Opel/Wokshall Zafira diesel. This car has been recalled over 3 times over decades.
If you look at Norway where 26% of all cars on the roads are EV's there are less fires.
The fire departementet says that a fire in crampt spaces is also imposible to put out. EV's are easier, because there are no fuel leaking out on the floor.
If the UK needs help here, just ask.
When will you EV lot get it into your heads.. MORE ICE means more it seems like more fires yet when you do the actual damn maths which you lot can't seem too do the EV fires tend to be the same as ICE and in some case slightly higher PER 1000 cars... You harp on about damn facts yet ignore them when it suits you... Oh and I check your Norway claim and I suggest everyone else do the same,., YOU ARE WRONG it is similar t o whats stated in my comment...
Nice English
@@HappyBaggerSo, we have an english teacher that's out of arguments....
The fire was obviously caused by a horse, which exploded after being left unattended to refuel on a nosebag full of oats.
Oh, when will this horse-nosebag madness end? Hey a mustang is a wild horse, so maybe we should ban Mustangs, too. Can't be too careful...
How about a city tax on EV's 😊
I make a point of parking far away if I see an EV. Like go across to the other end of the parking area kinda thing. Don’t see the point over a few extra steps. They’re usually an eyesore anyway
EV 💥💥🔥🔥
you say ev fires . well here in Basingstoke there building a huge battery bank complex on the Tadley road . so muliiple container size full of batteries will be sited . OMG
You'll know what I'm talking about here. I used to work at AWRE in '85 & '86. We both know what's produced there. I hope the container is a good distance away. I lived in Old Basing btw.
Any word what happened just it could have been a petrol car and my friends thinking of buying one and I'm worried because you know petrols explosive. Also it seems to profit dictatorships.
EV batteries are a time bomb waiting to go off. If it's not faulty or poor manufacture that causes it then the dendrites forming between the electrodes will, eventually, short out.
EV's should be parked on the Top Level (roof). Of any multistory car park. Or a designated areas on. Ground level parking areas. Failure to do so. Is a "High" penalty ticket fine.
A called an EV a rolling fire b0mb an it was too much for the filter.
Even if the EV did NOT start the fire, once burning it would an awful lot harder to extinguish.
Now I see they want to ban ICE motorcycles in the UK.
I wonder what a comparison of the emissions from one EV fire, to those from a motorcycle lifetime would look like.
The reason 'investigations are still ongoing' is because it takes time to find something else they could believably pin it to.
Politicizing mechanical engineering means the fire was just an unfortunate accident
Diesel land rover - great comment!!! Segregation for EV's absolutely!
Worldwide stats show that fossil fuelled cars are 20 to 40 times more likely to catch fire than EVs. Depends whether you include hybrids with batteries and a petrol engine in the petrol or EV category or not. And that's pro rata the total fleet sizes and not just numbers. For sure, an EV fire is harder to put out but that's a different issue. On stats alone we should be more bothered about being parked next to a petrol car if fire is a phobia that keeps you awake. In any case the EVs most prone to fire are the early tech ones from 6 to 10 years ago and those kind of batteries have now been phased out. More recent batteries use a totally different chemical content and tests have driven nails through them without overheating. Over time those older tech EVs will all be off the road and the later EVs with new tech batteries, that are far less likely to combust, will become the majority.
I think EV should be banned completely and return to petrol and diesel. As for EV they should have their own designated spaces away from petrol and diesel cars that way ICE are protected and the EV parked together can burn in hell that’s my take on this
So much hate in this channel. sad.
Car racists! Segregating cars now…
You monsters will be demanding fireproof walls to keep one isolated from the other for “their protection”.
Politicians keeping a tight lip about the apparent dangers and shortcomings of EVs just add fuel to fire
EV's with Li-Ion batteries should be totally banned!
And remember that you got the government you voted for....bunch of car haters.... enjoy 👍
And the grift goes on. You could at least be honest enough to call your channel 'Confirmation bias - come and hear what you want to hear'. In the meantime, here's somethings you don't want to hear.
Fossil fuels are finite.
Man-made climate change is real.
The most efficient and practical way of driving an axle is with an electric motor.
So sad to hear such nonsense about EVs from you. There are millions of Teslas on the roads around the world. Virtually none catch on fire while old ICE cars catch on fire all the time, they just don’t make the news. It’s your videos that helped me decide to buy a 1st gen R8 V10/manual, but EVs are still the future if we want to have breathe clean air in the cities and stop the dependancy on oil from Russia/Middle East.
EV's should be keep separate , I believe It's 15 meters between each one ?
Should be whatever the rules are for truck tankers carrying liquid gas.
The problem isn't EVs. It's batteries. Lithium Ion batteries, especially large ones, should never have been tested on the public until they had the fire issues sorted.
Evs are great...very green 💚 apart from the fires
If it wasn't an ev, they would of said so virtually straight away
if a carpark says no ev's ----can you park a hybrid there????
I wouldn’t park in the same post code area never mind same car park as an electric car
Data from EV FireSafe, which is backed by the Australian Government, states that petrol cars are over 80 times more likely to set on fire than EVs. Swedish Civil Contingencies Agency found in 2022 there was an average of 3.8 fires per 100,000 electric and hybrid cars, and 68 fires per 100,000 cars of all fuel types.
Does that control for vehicle age, in other words as EVs age and approach the average age of ICE vehicles will they tend towards similar rates of catching fire? Will it be less, maybe more?
Could newer batteries be safer, or less safe? the way new diesels can have fires caused by the particulate filter systems.
@@joytotheworld9109 The statistics are so overwhelmingly in favour of EVs that statistically factors like those you suggest wouldn’t be statistically significant. I’m not sure why a diesel filter is a factor in any event as part and parcel of modern diesels.
@@gesp5151 Wouldn't or couldn't? I don't see large numbers of 10 to 15 year old EV's in daily use to begin to form an opinion.
I was comparing ICE tech changing to battery tech changing. Filters can get very hot during regen and start fires. Older roadgoing diesels or modern mining/off road only diesels lack this equipment and so don't have that fire risk.
Newer Lithium Ion batteries are generally much bigger capacity older batteries, with different chemistry. This may, like the improved filtering on diesels, give them different fire issues.
@@joytotheworld9109 Well Tesla alone have sold 5m EVs! Your point about Diesel cars is actually against them: on your argument older diesels without the tech/filters are less of a fire risk so diesel fire risk is likely proportionality to increase. The differential statistically is so huge in favour of EVs that there would need to be a massive overriding statistical change to alter the position. Probably why more car insurance when down when I chopped in a £2k old diesel for a £50k EV (which costs me nothing because the charging savings exceed interest repayments!).
@@gesp5151 5 million EVs, but how many over 15 years ago, and were they the same battery tech they're using now?
You're right, modern, more complex diesels need more careful engineering. But they are much cleaner, less thirsty, and have huge pulling power - which is why the world runs on diesel, well diesel, jet fuel, and ship oil.
The stats aren't in yet is my entire point - we'll start getting a clear picture as the average EV age creeps up, say in about 5 to 10 years for most brands, with good data about a decade after that.
Makes you wonder what would happen on a long ferry trip if an EV started a fire
Couldn’t give a crap, whatever car is best for my tax purposes will be on the list when replacing the current ev.