If you want easy money then it is best to use sunglasses. Temmie armor still takes too long to farm if you're not so bad that you'd die at least 10 (it's best to die 25) times
I would never be able to solve it by ear. This seems like pure magic to me. Did a tone deafness test and I'm apparently moderately tone deaf. Having at least the choice to display the notes is an important accessibility option.
That's called movable Do, the name of the pitch doesn't matter, what matters is the root, in G major G is the root, so in movable do instead of singing G/Sol, you'd sing Do. That's a good way to learn because it's more important to understand the relationship between notes in a given context rather than knowing their absolute value.
@@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS It depends from what angle you're trying to approach it. For starters it's not really related to absolute pitch, people able to use absolute pitch doesn't really need to rely movable do because they probably can identify the notes, but they might learn to use it in order to strengthen their relative pitch since they're not incompatible from what I've heard. I don't have absolute pitch to answer from experience on this side, but from what people have told me, developing a sense for relative pitch is helpful even if you have absolute pitch, and they can be complementary skills. I guess an example would be like learning color theory, most of us, unless we have some specific color blindness, can identify colors by using absolute values, you see red and you don't need to compare it to other colors to know it's red, but by learning color theory you develop skills that let you create deliberate color pallets because you're able to understand how colors interact in a relative manner.
Which is ironic, considering everything's come around again xD We started with it covering the video then transitioned to moving the video so it isn't covered and somehow got back to the start xD
I'll second that, I really appreciate you doing that for us. Likewise, I also appreciate it whenever you avoid putting content in the bottom-right of a thumbnail, since the timestamp always covers it up.
This really shows how much work she's put into vocal training. It takes a pretty serious amount of time to mentally associate pitches with an instrument, even more so voice. As expected of tokino sofa
god, all the hololive undertale playthroughs make me immediately emotional… watching watame and kanata’s playthroughs were really the breaking point in getting me fully into hololive. they are just such genuinely gentle and kind souls and resonate with the story of undertale so much
Sasuga Sora-chan. But seriously, thank you for adding the animation of the musical scale to this clip, that visual really helps to understand what she's doing with the music.
The answer in the in-game piano's notation format is on the screen, and she still goes through the effort of learning the notation. A for effort, F for observation. 😂
it’s funny how she uses the correct syllables to match the pitch she hears in the melody, however the actual pitch she sings when she goes up is Mi (sol mi re sol ti ti ti do) and that is what the second half of the melody actually does.
It was interesting to see the change in her body language when she was figuring out the puzzle using her musical skills, you could almost see the shift in mental gear configuration.
@1:35: great work in including the music scale for easier learning and context! Identifying tones without knowing the specific reference tone is one of the features of relative pitch. Having perfect pitch is still better though. One simply can gradually get relative pitch as you consistently keep on doing music, whether it's singing or playing an instrument.
Why would having perfect pitch be better though? It is not a requirement to play, listen or understand music. A lot of people with absolute pitch say it's a curse rather then a blessing since small imperfections in the pitch annoy them. Basically anything played on any remotely viable instrument aside from a microtonal guitar will have imperfect pitch due to equal temperament.
@@Neph9 it's just a general comparison. I do not say that you need relative/perfect pitch to listen/learn music. Relative pitch is just a part of perfect pitch. If you want to identify and learn songs/pieces most efficiently, then having perfect pitch is better than relative pitch. I could understand that having perfect pitch can get annoying (I have friends who have them), but treating it like a curse just because they are annoyed by microtonal imperfections might be an exaggeration. My aforementioned friends could live normally (and often brag about perfect pitch too), and it's not like they always hear sounds with the intent of telling what pitch they are.
I'm so jealous... Learning an instrument rn, and I understand enough music theory to make pretty sounds with it; but I might actually be tone deaf. Can't really tell sounds apart from each other. She's so talented though; I've never seen someone solve this puzzle that way!
Sora-chan is truly a genius for being able to figure it out using the musical scale like that. I figured it out by trial and error after listening to the music and trying to match it myself, I think you literally have to have a good mental rhythm to figure that puzzle out without cheating or seeing the arrows if you wait a while.
Anyone who took proper lessons playing an instrument like piano would have studied music theory. A pretty simple skill most intermediate piano players would be able to do even at the middle school level.
In the 1.0 version of Undertale, there wasn't the hint at the statue that popped up showing which buttons to push. You had to do it by pure pitch recognition and memorization. Sora used pitch recognition anyway; she didn't need the button based hint The button hint was added in v1.001, I guess after convincing Toby that not everyone can reasonably gain or have a sense of pitch. And more importantly, that deaf people are a thing that exists.
wait... i solved this puzzle just by hearing the melody the first time in the statue you suppossed to wait for the statue to give you the song? man i never knew that... even after almost 10 years i still discover things about undertale...
The funniest thing is, the game does just give you the answer if you wait by the statue long enough, I've personally never seen someone recognize the pitch and was able to recreate it like that, super impressive
For me as kid not knowing english and solving the first silent hill game piano puzzle was also a big accomplishment, and still not knowing english and solving all resident evil's, dino crisis' and silent hill's puzzles was a big accomplishment. This much I'm happy and made me a fan of those games.
2:08 The "do" here has a lower pitch than the first "do", i.e she made a small mistake at the beginning and she sang "so mi re" instead of the correct "so re do". But she did play the melody accurately later and that's what matters.
omg, watching this made me realize I did nearly the same thing to solve it LOL. played the violin for 13 years by that point/studied some music theory, god i loved seeing this
fun fact, this is how Toby Fox meant for the puzzle to be solved, but he added the hint because he realized most people would just look up the solution when they couldn't solve it themselves
We never hear C or C# be played in memory, so it could be in D major or G major. When I taught myself how to play it on the piano i always thought of it as being in D major lol.
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Other games: Solve puzzle, receive powerup. Win.
Undertale: Solve puzzle, receive dog, lose powerup. Win anyway.
More like: Solve puzzle, receive dog, lose power up, left with trash, find out trash is an inf money generator
If you want easy money then it is best to use sunglasses. Temmie armor still takes too long to farm if you're not so bad that you'd die at least 10 (it's best to die 25) times
Very impressive, carbonated water chan
Yall wild with the names for arm chair chan
*IRyS’ favorite drink-chan
Fizzy Fluid Chan
I like sparkly sugary water chan more
ur comment got me weak
The swaying with the mouth wide open face is so cute
I swear I've never seen such cuteness
She's a living metronome.
The cutest concentration
I'd have that on loop
Motion so smooth fr
The last single strand that still holding the yagoo dream 😂
Like that one scene where cap america keeps a chopper from leaving while holding the corner of a building
More like the one who gave yagoo his dream.
@@Xx1devilgod1xX nah, like that one strand of supermans hair holding a 1000 pound weight
The Alpha and Omega, beginning and the end. Sora started the dream and will hold it together until the finish line.
@@flyingoctopus4304except the horny song cover where they moan in the chorus was her idea
I like how the game just tells her the solution, but she still solves it the cool way.
Supposedly older versions of the game didn't have the notes appear above and you did in fact have to do it by ear.
@@kantpredictyeah I don’t ever remember it showing it like that
I would never be able to solve it by ear. This seems like pure magic to me. Did a tone deafness test and I'm apparently moderately tone deaf. Having at least the choice to display the notes is an important accessibility option.
Sasuga soda chan
sausage soda can indeed
Damn, hearing the leitmotiff for
His Theme for the first time in a while takes me back...
That theme is a WEAPON.
Immediate tears.
His theme?
@@hanakoisbestgirl4752 Google "his theme undertale"
@@hanakoisbestgirl4752 the name of the song is called "His Theme", coz its "His" theme
i don't know if i'm ready to hear it again when he comes back in deltarune
It never ceases to amaze me at how talented Sora-chan is... and yet, how much she gets trolled in games 😅
That's called movable Do, the name of the pitch doesn't matter, what matters is the root, in G major G is the root, so in movable do instead of singing G/Sol, you'd sing Do. That's a good way to learn because it's more important to understand the relationship between notes in a given context rather than knowing their absolute value.
Surely that only helps with relative and not absolute pitch?
Not trying to dismiss your advice or anything, just to add further context.
@@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS It depends from what angle you're trying to approach it. For starters it's not really related to absolute pitch, people able to use absolute pitch doesn't really need to rely movable do because they probably can identify the notes, but they might learn to use it in order to strengthen their relative pitch since they're not incompatible from what I've heard. I don't have absolute pitch to answer from experience on this side, but from what people have told me, developing a sense for relative pitch is helpful even if you have absolute pitch, and they can be complementary skills. I guess an example would be like learning color theory, most of us, unless we have some specific color blindness, can identify colors by using absolute values, you see red and you don't need to compare it to other colors to know it's red, but by learning color theory you develop skills that let you create deliberate color pallets because you're able to understand how colors interact in a relative manner.
i like your funny words magic man
i can intuitively determine relative pitch this way, but no real notes.
It's singing it in a different key right? The notes are wrong but the relationships of the notes are the same
that is some nice layout for the ending, so instead of the video getting blocked by cards you move it to upper-left... nice one
Which is ironic, considering everything's come around again xD
We started with it covering the video then transitioned to moving the video so it isn't covered and somehow got back to the start xD
I always hate when youtuber blocks the video that is still playing with those video boxes at the end
I'll second that, I really appreciate you doing that for us. Likewise, I also appreciate it whenever you avoid putting content in the bottom-right of a thumbnail, since the timestamp always covers it up.
Do you mean to say that you don't have that extension where you can just click a button to hide those annoying boxes?
@@Justakatto Some are just watching on phones like me. And it's kinda annoying when those things happen. So yeah, props to the editor 😊
That is actually quite impressive.
This really shows how much work she's put into vocal training. It takes a pretty serious amount of time to mentally associate pitches with an instrument, even more so voice. As expected of tokino sofa
Or just get "born" with it, like me, 0 effort (mom singing 24/7 at home :D)
Sora-chan is so smart but that dog is outsmart and off the screen 😂😂
DAMN YOU TOBY
1:12 - Cute Sora.
Also solving it the hard way pretty quickly while ignoring the given on screen answer.
god, all the hololive undertale playthroughs make me immediately emotional… watching watame and kanata’s playthroughs were really the breaking point in getting me fully into hololive. they are just such genuinely gentle and kind souls and resonate with the story of undertale so much
Ririka recently proving it too, I didn't think I'd find someone who cried during True Pacifist more than Watame and then Ririka just went: "Bet."
Fubuki play it several times.
Sasuga Sora-chan. But seriously, thank you for adding the animation of the musical scale to this clip, that visual really helps to understand what she's doing with the music.
The answer in the in-game piano's notation format is on the screen, and she still goes through the effort of learning the notation. A for effort, F for observation. 😂
She's a curious creature. To her, singing is easier than reading
the dream is alive!
Sora-chan is like a real life Platelet-chan that grew up
Man that takes me back
There's a reason why she is the Goddess of Hololive!
These kinds of puzzles are practically impossible for my tone-deaf ass. But Sora of course nail it.
Amazing! as expected of Sora
That undertale music always bring tears to my eyes.
I remember my first playthrough of this game, it was raining in my room
it’s funny how she uses the correct syllables to match the pitch she hears in the melody, however the actual pitch she sings when she goes up is Mi (sol mi re sol ti ti ti do) and that is what the second half of the melody actually does.
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed lol
This is what happens when you did your side quest first.
Wow she's so amazing.
Sasuga first hololive member
It was interesting to see the change in her body language when she was figuring out the puzzle using her musical skills, you could almost see the shift in mental gear configuration.
when your idol skills prove useful in an adventure
"What do you mean, too many dogs?"
Well she is a singer and i think she plays piano too, she could guess harder musical puzzles, sasuga soda chan
So this is the true power of an idol to surpass comedians
@1:35: great work in including the music scale for easier learning and context!
Identifying tones without knowing the specific reference tone is one of the features of relative pitch. Having perfect pitch is still better though.
One simply can gradually get relative pitch as you consistently keep on doing music, whether it's singing or playing an instrument.
Why would having perfect pitch be better though? It is not a requirement to play, listen or understand music. A lot of people with absolute pitch say it's a curse rather then a blessing since small imperfections in the pitch annoy them. Basically anything played on any remotely viable instrument aside from a microtonal guitar will have imperfect pitch due to equal temperament.
@@Neph9 it's just a general comparison. I do not say that you need relative/perfect pitch to listen/learn music. Relative pitch is just a part of perfect pitch. If you want to identify and learn songs/pieces most efficiently, then having perfect pitch is better than relative pitch.
I could understand that having perfect pitch can get annoying (I have friends who have them), but treating it like a curse just because they are annoyed by microtonal imperfections might be an exaggeration. My aforementioned friends could live normally (and often brag about perfect pitch too), and it's not like they always hear sounds with the intent of telling what pitch they are.
I'm so jealous... Learning an instrument rn, and I understand enough music theory to make pretty sounds with it; but I might actually be tone deaf. Can't really tell sounds apart from each other.
She's so talented though; I've never seen someone solve this puzzle that way!
that heck of amazing feats
she's not an idol for nothing
Sora-chan is truly a genius for being able to figure it out using the musical scale like that.
I figured it out by trial and error after listening to the music and trying to match it myself, I think you literally have to have a good mental rhythm to figure that puzzle out without cheating or seeing the arrows if you wait a while.
Anyone who took proper lessons playing an instrument like piano would have studied music theory. A pretty simple skill most intermediate piano players would be able to do even at the middle school level.
@@Toritori-ke9sf you sound like a very fun person to be around
1:33 shi, I didn't even do this, I just played random notes on the clock until it sounded like the original song
Wow, I dunno if I've ever seen someone solve this puzzle without the guide before. It's so hard for anyone not trained in music
1:00 Sora is so perfect.
Idol?!
Interesting to see how Musician Virtual Idol solves musical puzzle made by Musician Game Developer.
In the 1.0 version of Undertale, there wasn't the hint at the statue that popped up showing which buttons to push. You had to do it by pure pitch recognition and memorization.
Sora used pitch recognition anyway; she didn't
need the button based hint
The button hint was added in v1.001, I guess after convincing Toby that not everyone can reasonably gain or have a sense of pitch. And more importantly, that deaf people are a thing that exists.
That edit made it so much easier to follow along. Nice
Yeah Sora is classically trained.
Reminds me of similar puzzle in Myst. These days modern versions also have a alternative way to solve it as well.
Amazing sofa-chan
As someone that solved this puzzle the same way on my first playthrough, it's always good to see other vtubers do the same
soda chan thinking face is so cute.
wait... i solved this puzzle just by hearing the melody the first time in the statue
you suppossed to wait for the statue to give you the song?
man i never knew that...
even after almost 10 years i still discover things about undertale...
thats Incredible
That was both impressive and adorable!
Kakkoii to kawaii desu!
skilled cute sora-chan!
1:00 And then i start crying from the memories. I can never hear that melody without getting emotional.
Damn, she is musically talented
It’s cute how she starts swaying with the music
ty for including dog handou
First time I see anyone solving this puzzle via what looks like solfege to audiate the different pitches. that's some cool musical training she's got.
She got visited by the one and only TOBY FOX
I fucking love undertale music
The funniest thing is, the game does just give you the answer if you wait by the statue long enough, I've personally never seen someone recognize the pitch and was able to recreate it like that, super impressive
Sora really is the final vestige of Yagoo's idol dream
For me as kid not knowing english and solving the first silent hill game piano puzzle was also a big accomplishment, and still not knowing english and solving all resident evil's, dino crisis' and silent hill's puzzles was a big accomplishment. This much I'm happy and made me a fan of those games.
The one who dreamed of opera but had to settle for goddesshood
This reminds me of the Guardians who would clear Oracles in Vault of Glass just by sound. Real madlads
Sora humming the tune is so blessed.
Perfect Pitch Tenshi
She truley is an Idol
Thank you for the translation notes
It's been a while since the last time I've heard of this game. Thank you Soda chan for reminding me of this masterpiece
2:08 The "do" here has a lower pitch than the first "do", i.e she made a small mistake at the beginning and she sang "so mi re" instead of the correct "so re do".
But she did play the melody accurately later and that's what matters.
While watching this video it fills you with determination
omg, watching this made me realize I did nearly the same thing to solve it LOL. played the violin for 13 years by that point/studied some music theory, god i loved seeing this
the talented soda chan!
fun fact, this is how Toby Fox meant for the puzzle to be solved, but he added the hint because he realized most people would just look up the solution when they couldn't solve it themselves
Soba-chan is amazing.
Undertale was a beautiful game… I could cry 😭
Wow.
Is she perfect pitch? Because that would explain this. That's really impressive
that's impressive whoa
my favourite song from the game❤
This is some fantastic context for the clip. Good on the clipper
I need to finish this journey of a game again...
Okay that's pretty dope, and also really cute
Perfect pitch can get you dat far huh
This is trully great YAGOO Dream
Sora is so amazing!~ ^_^
That was pretty impressive
That end part lmao
she's so cute 😭😭😭
I like your outro, pretty subtle.
We never hear C or C# be played in memory, so it could be in D major or G major. When I taught myself how to play it on the piano i always thought of it as being in D major lol.
Just watched 4 times in a row because cutest idol ever moment ❤️
Woah, the algorithm seems to like this video recently. Understandable :D
Cute Sora vibing 💙
2:05
"His Theme" cover by Sora 💕
...
You can tell how Yagoo got his dreams when he saw fizzly water-chan. Too bad her forerunners are comedians
Very cool
It makes me want to play again i struggle using controller when that puzzle pop i need to start all over again just because my save file was gone
She literally played it by ear lol
True idol
Goes to show sora is very skilled at what she does
And has phenomenal musical understanding