I think a good buff for panther is making it so his passive where he gets a damage boost at low health should be at half health instead of under 100 and obviously fix his dash bug. It’ll make him way more dangerous while still including a risk factor
I mean, if you even watched one match of S0 black panther in high ELO you’d know why. He was absolutely busted. Hes too sensitive of a character in this game: nerf too much and he’s useless, buff too much and he’s far too strong.
@@Radbiker33357 Sue, Namor, Peni all counter him. Mantis/Luna have cc, tanks have shields stop his marks. Not to mention the 300 immunity ults. Like he literally has the has most counters in the game. Not to mention the fuking bugs. People haven't figured out how to play against him/or dont want to, and automatically go "oh he to fast, I cant keep up." Lke most games supports are the most boosted players in the game. They always ruine every game with their crying and complaining, bc they cant not play their heroes correctly, even if they are the most op in the game. Divers are the only ones that kept them in check and there is no viable diver to go against them, spiderman is shit, Bp is shit, and now namor is a S-tier antidive. Magik is the closest thing to shut them down, but now we got the 3 support meta. Imagine that.
@@Radbiker33357good, almost like he’s a high skill character that deserves high reward in comp play. And that doesn’t change anything when they buff all of his counters too.
Another idea i had for bp and his consistency is to make it so his two clawed melee attack does more dmg than his normal one, and applies a vibranium mark. Itd give him another way to get shields, get his dash reset and would use things that already exist in his kit
I like that but it would need to be a cooldown, as it would simply be too strong with constant uptime, but on the other hand and argument could be that you put yourself in a vulnerable position of dying for getting the mark
My thing is that his resets don’t go off like they do so I find myself throwing fights by basically suiciding every engage I do because I do quick bursts of damage and don’t have a dash available when I know I clearly hit someone with a mark
Make it so his dash resets if you hit somebody with a mark whether they take damage or not, fix the dash reg and reset bugs, and make his passive proc way faster. Rn people just hard counter bp without even trying just by playing normally with heals, playing on their team. Also saw somebody say something about giving him a passive that makes all of his movement silent and that’s awesome bc it perfectly fits his characters hunter fantasy
id recommend just immediately disengaging when a loki places lamps or cloak places a bubble, its pretty much impossible to kill anyone through it and you charge their ults like crazy
I usually try to do dash resets on the clones while also destroying the beacons by dashing through both at the same time since the beacon only goes down in two dashes and the resets give me ult charge. You can get kills if a teammate also pushes with you but otherwise just disengage or else you will die
Honestly i wouldnt mind the nerfs if his dash reset properly i know half the time its a skill issue but there are so many times i see a golden opertunnity to make a big play go for it then my dash doesnt reset even though i hit like 3 people with mark
They need to fix the bug on his dash resets because it sells me way to much Edit: and obv nerf supports and also big brain idea, make it so he doesn’t have foot step noises like the movie.
I still find it crazy that the guy with the vibranium suit and champion of Bast has no defensive ability, no sprint or silent footstep passive and no team up with Storm. While Cap has a sprint, Iron Fist has a 3 block defense and these mfs Namor and Moon Knight have that big ahh whale and Khonshu collecting elims for them😭
Support ults are just not engaging enough. They need to nerf the ult build up rate for some of these ults, it shouldn’t be the case that a support uses an ult and the other team just can’t play the game
I second-main Black Panther, and I really find his kit very enjoyable (especially in Bronze to Gold ranks). That said, I'd say he's a bit more difficult to use than Psylocke (my main) in that kills, at least for me, are harder to pull off. For example: after doing the Spear Toss>Spirit Rend combo once and attempting to do another to secure a support kill, by the time you're about to Spirit Rend again that support, they've already been healed at full health! I'm thinking why not give BP's Spirit Rend anti-heal properties? Maybe for 2 seconds at most? That way, he can secure more kills without depending too much on luck or pro maneuvering skills!
Them Loki runes tearing you up black man, they heal the damage you do when you dump all your cooldowns into players under them. Don't attack into players, attack the runes themselves, pop them, resume dmg. You don't want to pad the Loki's healing numbers. You're still goated though. #buffblackpanther
Oh dude. SUBBED. I FEEL this I made the mistake of making the point of healing needing a massive nerf on the Marvel Rivals Facebook and got CRUCIFIED Love getting told I have a “skill issue” by a bronzer in a facebook group
Genuinely don’t get the heals thing when they were able to team wipe anyway even w opp healer ult. There’s counters to the healers ult. I can’t count how many times my ult has been cancelled/got killed in the process of it
"I literally did no damage" 10:00 In fact, you healed them, because you were hitting everyone while they were lamped lol and PSA, dealing damage to people in loki's rune doesn't even build any ult. Kill the runes. I know BP cant. Just in case people didnt know.
@idekkwhereimat it's just annoying to watch panther players blow all their abilities into a Loki rune and say they did no damage, when they could just reset and wait after baiting the ability. You get no value and are more likely to die. Bait out the rune, reset. He did it like 5 times in this video alone.
@@gamefreak9210 yeah we could do that but my point still stands it's not fun and a brainless oh shit button with 0 thought involved this kinda shit with supports going on now is what destroyed overwatch and it will destroy this game eventually
I feel like they should make the support ults charge two times slower, as right now playing against triple support is not fun. Also make his dash hit boxes bigger, it might fix some bugs with it, and it makes it so when loki does his invincibility shards you can hit it instead of just going below it.
My guy was playing BP into invisible woman and Cloak complaining about healers, then continued to play into 3 healers including Loki, yes the healers are strong in this game but you picked the worst team comp to play BP into and then complained about healers, just swap the same way their team did to 3 support to counter your 3 dps.
Support ults are WAAAAAY too powerful to have every 45 seconds like come on bro. It’s so unfun to play against. Luna snow, mantis, and cloak and dagger. You can’t play the game every literal 10 seconds
Im assuming hes still trying to charge up his ult unless hes been doing it while he already has the ult ready, the runes are easily breakable anyway you could dash through em while nickin loki
Im not gonna hold you, hearing you complain about the same stuff that drives me crazy with Black Panther is therapeutic as hell. My friends just tell me im not using him right 😪😪
So my thing with support ults is they can be countered with mag or wolverine or really just hard focusing the one who cast it. I like wolverine into invisible women bc if I have my ult I’ll just solo her into another part of the map and the ult goes bye with her. I’ve seen “multiple choice” smush cloak and dagger. Anything’s possible brotha.
I swear BP season 0 was decent but something changed he is almost unplayable. Of course I do a good game every now and then but most of the time I feel useless. And this ult is very weak. The kick/dash can get canceled by pretty much everyone. I thought it was me and that I became worst than before but it seems that I am not the only one to think that he is weak but I love to play him still :)
To be fair it was partly your fault. You were using all your abilities on the loki healing thing and anything in that aoe is essentially immune to damage until its destroyed.
That's the issue and what's killed other hero shooters supports run the game they press ult or a normal CD and you have to take your hands off the keyboard that's everyone's entire point
nah the 13:11 fight is how I feel playing BP in s1 24/7. They start with a cloak ult, loki takes her ult and does it again and then gets out of it and places a totem down. What did they do to BP :((((((
Im sad because i suck on BP and ill never be good as somjuu.I think ill go to qp and suffer against storm and Ironman while clock and dagger keep them up and they all spit at my face.
Keep playing don't just try ranked, play vs practice ai bots hard and play casual and use the practice arena and be patient, he needs a buff but he is his best against squishes and when your team is engaging, always you need to be very mobile with this character.
U got this bro! Never give up. I can be top20 rn if I wanted to 😂 all I have to do is not play bp. But he’s fun to me and I enjoy playing him! That’s all that matters fr❤️ I believe
We need to all be vocal the devs purposely NERFED BLACK PANTHER for no reason they went out of their way to buff All his counters so nobody would play him very egregious… they need to fix him now!!
There's too much cc in the game when every single ability has some sort of cc baked into it this is how you kill a game panther is hardly played at higher elos because yes panther and other melees are noob stompers quit defending enormous amounts of cc it's cringe
@@idekkwhereimat good as that's the only way backline heroes can defend against divers. He was complaining about a moonknight having ankh, might as well delete the hero. Invis woman is another story though, that character does too much. Divers complaining they get countered is cringe.
Difference between hard counters that get value just by existing with 0 thought or risk and having to use any brain cells at all to live this is what killed overwatch and will eventually kill this game if they cater to you casual players crying at every turn instead of learning to play the game
@@roghider3552I mean when the only thing a hero can do is dive the stragglers in the back line, and can’t really help in team fights, and then gets hard countered by any healing or just by the kits of 75% of heroes in the game, said dive character becomes unplayable. Spider man is literally black panther if he was good. Effective diver that kills faster and he’s movement and a good ult
#buffblackpanther IN THE CHAT😞 ✊🏾
I think a good buff for panther is making it so his passive where he gets a damage boost at low health should be at half health instead of under 100 and obviously fix his dash bug. It’ll make him way more dangerous while still including a risk factor
thats what I'm saying too. And also increase his damage boost by at least 10%
Buff his spear to 45 to 50
imo they should just scale it with his max hp, capping the damage when he reaches 100
No and yes u feel like buffing the damage in his kit like spear and spiny kick would work just the same if not better
And add shields back. They took it from 125 max hp gain to 75. That’s a HUGE nerf
I will never understand why they buffed bucky and then decided to nerf panther
I mean, if you even watched one match of S0 black panther in high ELO you’d know why. He was absolutely busted. Hes too sensitive of a character in this game: nerf too much and he’s useless, buff too much and he’s far too strong.
@@Radbiker33357 But they already buff his counters. Namor,storm,Bucky and they have sue storm to ruin his dive.
@@NecromancyKing170facts
@@Radbiker33357 Sue, Namor, Peni all counter him. Mantis/Luna have cc, tanks have shields stop his marks. Not to mention the 300 immunity ults. Like he literally has the has most counters in the game. Not to mention the fuking bugs. People haven't figured out how to play against him/or dont want to, and automatically go "oh he to fast, I cant keep up." Lke most games supports are the most boosted players in the game. They always ruine every game with their crying and complaining, bc they cant not play their heroes correctly, even if they are the most op in the game. Divers are the only ones that kept them in check and there is no viable diver to go against them, spiderman is shit, Bp is shit, and now namor is a S-tier antidive. Magik is the closest thing to shut them down, but now we got the 3 support meta. Imagine that.
@@Radbiker33357good, almost like he’s a high skill character that deserves high reward in comp play. And that doesn’t change anything when they buff all of his counters too.
Another idea i had for bp and his consistency is to make it so his two clawed melee attack does more dmg than his normal one, and applies a vibranium mark. Itd give him another way to get shields, get his dash reset and would use things that already exist in his kit
I like that but it would need to be a cooldown, as it would simply be too strong with constant uptime, but on the other hand and argument could be that you put yourself in a vulnerable position of dying for getting the mark
My thing is that his resets don’t go off like they do so I find myself throwing fights by basically suiciding every engage I do because I do quick bursts of damage and don’t have a dash available when I know I clearly hit someone with a mark
Make it so his dash resets if you hit somebody with a mark whether they take damage or not, fix the dash reg and reset bugs, and make his passive proc way faster. Rn people just hard counter bp without even trying just by playing normally with heals, playing on their team. Also saw somebody say something about giving him a passive that makes all of his movement silent and that’s awesome bc it perfectly fits his characters hunter fantasy
deadass, I can literally be already doing the WORST on my team and they'd still switch to namor, like give me a fucken break jesus christ
@ it’s insane how many things hard counter him tho ngl
id recommend just immediately disengaging when a loki places lamps or cloak places a bubble, its pretty much impossible to kill anyone through it and you charge their ults like crazy
If you fight a loki inside it you help them charge ult?
@Fightheavens yeah
I usually try to do dash resets on the clones while also destroying the beacons by dashing through both at the same time since the beacon only goes down in two dashes and the resets give me ult charge. You can get kills if a teammate also pushes with you but otherwise just disengage or else you will die
How about just destroy the damn domains
They need to fix his dash bruh
Literally
Honestly i wouldnt mind the nerfs if his dash reset properly i know half the time its a skill issue but there are so many times i see a golden opertunnity to make a big play go for it then my dash doesnt reset even though i hit like 3 people with mark
They need to fix the bug on his dash resets because it sells me way to much
Edit: and obv nerf supports and also big brain idea, make it so he doesn’t have foot step noises like the movie.
I think absolutely no footstep noise is a bit to much. They can make it a little more quiet than others
@ in the movie it is NONE. My boi needs smth man
I still find it crazy that the guy with the vibranium suit and champion of Bast has no defensive ability, no sprint or silent footstep passive and no team up with Storm. While Cap has a sprint, Iron Fist has a 3 block defense and these mfs Namor and Moon Knight have that big ahh whale and Khonshu collecting elims for them😭
Support ults are just not engaging enough. They need to nerf the ult build up rate for some of these ults, it shouldn’t be the case that a support uses an ult and the other team just can’t play the game
BRUH TYPO ON THE THUMBNAIL BUT ILL CHANGE IT LATER LMAOOOOO
The typo made it even more sad, BP mains are truly suffering
@@leviettri3576real
they need to fix that glitch bro 😭😭
I second-main Black Panther, and I really find his kit very enjoyable (especially in Bronze to Gold ranks). That said, I'd say he's a bit more difficult to use than Psylocke (my main) in that kills, at least for me, are harder to pull off. For example: after doing the Spear Toss>Spirit Rend combo once and attempting to do another to secure a support kill, by the time you're about to Spirit Rend again that support, they've already been healed at full health!
I'm thinking why not give BP's Spirit Rend anti-heal properties? Maybe for 2 seconds at most? That way, he can secure more kills without depending too much on luck or pro maneuvering skills!
That would be broken af bro lol
Haha, ikr? That said, it would be so much fun!
Tickle Monster 😂
I laughed out loud when I saw this title and thumbnail lol
*dashes into moon night's ult*
*dies*
"This is CRAZY bro!"
Them Loki runes tearing you up black man, they heal the damage you do when you dump all your cooldowns into players under them. Don't attack into players, attack the runes themselves, pop them, resume dmg. You don't want to pad the Loki's healing numbers. You're still goated though. #buffblackpanther
Holy what a play at 3:50 😭😭
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Oh dude. SUBBED. I FEEL this
I made the mistake of making the point of healing needing a massive nerf on the Marvel Rivals Facebook and got CRUCIFIED
Love getting told I have a “skill issue” by a bronzer in a facebook group
Genuinely don’t get the heals thing when they were able to team wipe anyway even w opp healer ult. There’s counters to the healers ult. I can’t count how many times my ult has been cancelled/got killed in the process of it
@ from what I understand: that’s what killed Overwatch. Overly powerful healing
@ I just started playing ow last year I can’t speak on that. But ow fixed that problem and ow is still dead so idk
Crazy that the one guy with CLAWS is called the tickle monster. #Buffblackpanther
"I literally did no damage" 10:00
In fact, you healed them, because you were hitting everyone while they were lamped lol
and PSA, dealing damage to people in loki's rune doesn't even build any ult. Kill the runes. I know BP cant. Just in case people didnt know.
Everyone knows this we're just annoyed he has a mini support ult baked into his regular abilities
@idekkwhereimat it's just annoying to watch panther players blow all their abilities into a Loki rune and say they did no damage, when they could just reset and wait after baiting the ability. You get no value and are more likely to die. Bait out the rune, reset.
He did it like 5 times in this video alone.
@@gamefreak9210 yeah we could do that but my point still stands it's not fun and a brainless oh shit button with 0 thought involved this kinda shit with supports going on now is what destroyed overwatch and it will destroy this game eventually
12:29 WTF OUR PUNISHER JUST KILLED HIMSELF!!!😭
I feel like they should make the support ults charge two times slower, as right now playing against triple support is not fun. Also make his dash hit boxes bigger, it might fix some bugs with it, and it makes it so when loki does his invincibility shards you can hit it instead of just going below it.
My guy was playing BP into invisible woman and Cloak complaining about healers, then continued to play into 3 healers including Loki, yes the healers are strong in this game but you picked the worst team comp to play BP into and then complained about healers, just swap the same way their team did to 3 support to counter your 3 dps.
Brother I don't think you understand quite as much as you think you do
Fr lol@@idekkwhereimat
Support ults are WAAAAAY too powerful to have every 45 seconds like come on bro. It’s so unfun to play against. Luna snow, mantis, and cloak and dagger. You can’t play the game every literal 10 seconds
Bro your vids have encouraged me to use black panther more and I thank you. #Buffblackpanther
I appreciate that! 😊
The devs definitely wanted a more backrow poke meta than skillful dive gotta be cause it more casual friendly
Good to see good player is hard to play too. It justify my plays
Does he know what Loki's green rune does?? Cause he be dumping all his cooldowns into it and yelling ''I do no damage bro!''
Im assuming hes still trying to charge up his ult unless hes been doing it while he already has the ult ready, the runes are easily breakable anyway you could dash through em while nickin loki
Yeah tf was that
Im not gonna hold you, hearing you complain about the same stuff that drives me crazy with Black Panther is therapeutic as hell. My friends just tell me im not using him right 😪😪
BP is ded on god
The quiet tickle monster
Question what should my sensitivity be when playing BP and what tips can you give for improvement
Something like 250 horizontal 200 vertical or 180
Also focus on accuracy over speed on dash
Fine I’ll learn black panther 😔😭
There is to much healing in the game.
17:30 you only marked mantis with your spear, but it should have been marked for everyone only which is weird lol
Fom on BP main to the other. I feel the pain. Take to the X!
So my thing with support ults is they can be countered with mag or wolverine or really just hard focusing the one who cast it. I like wolverine into invisible women bc if I have my ult I’ll just solo her into another part of the map and the ult goes bye with her. I’ve seen “multiple choice” smush cloak and dagger. Anything’s possible brotha.
Bro stopping pressing his attacks like that so brain dead expecting them to land smh
My bro, ahve u ever heard of loki crystals?
I swear BP season 0 was decent but something changed he is almost unplayable. Of course I do a good game every now and then but most of the time I feel useless. And this ult is very weak. The kick/dash can get canceled by pretty much everyone. I thought it was me and that I became worst than before but it seems that I am not the only one to think that he is weak but I love to play him still :)
blud actually reads his comments and took out the intro. aight you get a like for every upload you post now
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To be fair it was partly your fault. You were using all your abilities on the loki healing thing and anything in that aoe is essentially immune to damage until its destroyed.
That's the issue and what's killed other hero shooters supports run the game they press ult or a normal CD and you have to take your hands off the keyboard that's everyone's entire point
nah the 13:11 fight is how I feel playing BP in s1 24/7. They start with a cloak ult, loki takes her ult and does it again and then gets out of it and places a totem down. What did they do to BP :((((((
It’s so dumb how healers ult just insta max health
Does bro not understand lokis lamp?
Im sad because i suck on BP and ill never be good as somjuu.I think ill go to qp and suffer against storm and Ironman while clock and dagger keep them up and they all spit at my face.
Keep playing don't just try ranked, play vs practice ai bots hard and play casual and use the practice arena and be patient, he needs a buff but he is his best against squishes and when your team is engaging, always you need to be very mobile with this character.
U got this bro! Never give up. I can be top20 rn if I wanted to 😂 all I have to do is not play bp. But he’s fun to me and I enjoy playing him! That’s all that matters fr❤️ I believe
They really need to nerf supports, so annoying
These op supports are gonna kill this game
3:23 How did that not kill Namor?
We need to all be vocal the devs purposely NERFED BLACK PANTHER for no reason they went out of their way to buff All his counters so nobody would play him very egregious… they need to fix him now!!
Should be titled how it feels to play on an anti panther map
Character nerf straight from hell
dude i feel like this playing spiderman but hes no where near as bad as BP
Bruh, that aint even black panther, nice clickbait
I main spider iron fist and black panther and it is HELL
actually complaining about cc when cc is the only way to deal with divers xD
There's too much cc in the game when every single ability has some sort of cc baked into it this is how you kill a game panther is hardly played at higher elos because yes panther and other melees are noob stompers quit defending enormous amounts of cc it's cringe
@@idekkwhereimat good as that's the only way backline heroes can defend against divers. He was complaining about a moonknight having ankh, might as well delete the hero. Invis woman is another story though, that character does too much. Divers complaining they get countered is cringe.
Difference between hard counters that get value just by existing with 0 thought or risk and having to use any brain cells at all to live this is what killed overwatch and will eventually kill this game if they cater to you casual players crying at every turn instead of learning to play the game
@@roghider3552I mean when the only thing a hero can do is dive the stragglers in the back line, and can’t really help in team fights, and then gets hard countered by any healing or just by the kits of 75% of heroes in the game, said dive character becomes unplayable. Spider man is literally black panther if he was good. Effective diver that kills faster and he’s movement and a good ult
@@rhyshuber9981 Never seen somebody say spiderman is better than black panther with such confidence.
Panther feels so goofy to play rn that’s why you should coach me 🥺👉👈 also where’s the intro
#buffblackpanther
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Its Genji all over again. We know the truth. BP IS the scariest character in the game. So they clip his wings.
IF YOU SEE THIS WERE LIVE RN! www.twitch.tv/somjuu
it was just a bad game brother🥷🏾