Destroyer School - Guide to IJN Torpedo Doctrine

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  • Опубликовано: 9 фев 2022
  • Japanese destroyers are generally defined as fast, light and maneuverable. Their main drawbacks being slow gun traverse speed, average reload time and limited ammunition types. offset to a small degree by good accuracy and high velocity shells. As such Japanese destroyers cannot compete in a straight gun battle against other nations destroyers, with a few exceptions. However, This was never the intention behind the design. Today I am going to show you how to use this torpedo to maximum effect. These lessons can be applied to any destroyer armed ship, the Japanese just excel at this form of combat.
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Комментарии • 56

  • @marcokriesche9664
    @marcokriesche9664 2 года назад +29

    Very interesting, many thanks! The IJN is not very well covered on RUclips. It demands another play style than other nations, as you explained.
    I will research the IJN now, I already have an excellent air force there. Cheers from Germany!

    • @CmdrTyrael
      @CmdrTyrael  2 года назад +5

      You literally have to play them as intended in real life. The early cruisers are purely reliant on hunting destroyers or using torpedos.
      Once you unlock the 20.3cm APHE on the late cruisers you can delete everyone 🤣

  • @Sigmagnat650
    @Sigmagnat650 Год назад +9

    OMFG that Moffet xD - tfw they're so scared of the long lance spam they literally crawl ashore to get away from it. These tactics are brutal, especially on the right map- I submitted a replay to Thunder Show (but never got featured) where I used the Shimakaze to saturate the two main choke points in the middle of the South Africa map. About 6 minutes later I killed 7 heavy cruisers within a 15 second window.

    • @CmdrTyrael
      @CmdrTyrael  Год назад +4

      Lol 7 heavy cruiser is definitely worthy of a mention 🤣. Sadly naval rarely see's a mention on thunder show 🥲

    • @Sigmagnat650
      @Sigmagnat650 Год назад +4

      @@CmdrTyrael Gaijin during FAQs: players need to be more excited for naval for us to invest more heavily in those games modes.
      Also Gaijin: here's a triple kill with a sturmtiger!
      Me: *flips table*

    • @CmdrTyrael
      @CmdrTyrael  Год назад +3

      @Sigmagnat650 lol
      After being rejected multiple times for my torpedo boat tactics.
      I started making shorts purely because I wanted people to see the exciting side of naval 🤣
      Granted BB vs BB is not fun to watch but anything smaller certainly is

  • @z0orb
    @z0orb 2 года назад +9

    oooh the reverse-torpedo i didnt know, this will be epic

  • @CharliMorganMusic
    @CharliMorganMusic 2 года назад +12

    Holy shit, a guy who ALSO likes naval!? We can be friends.

    • @CmdrTyrael
      @CmdrTyrael  2 года назад +2

      We are a rare and special breed. We can be friends 👨‍✈️

  • @Biznatski
    @Biznatski 2 года назад +10

    Beautifully covered the IJN Torpedo Doctrine!
    All of your naval videos are 10/10!
    Cheers Commander!
    And I know that you will definitely keep up the amazing work !
    o7

  • @BleedingUranium
    @BleedingUranium 2 года назад +12

    Thank you so much for this! Best explanation for torpedoes I've ever seen! :)

    • @CmdrTyrael
      @CmdrTyrael  2 года назад +3

      Thank you mate. I appreciate it.
      I did forget to mention that torpedo depth is super important too.
      If you're fighting destroyers and larger always use 4m depth. It is nearly always a guaranteed kill. Useless against coastal vessels though

    • @BleedingUranium
      @BleedingUranium 2 года назад +1

      @@CmdrTyrael I saw that in the other comments and already changed them all to 4 metres, thanks! :)

    • @Rosaslav
      @Rosaslav 5 месяцев назад

      @@CmdrTyraelI am glad I stumbled upon this comment!:) So what is the difference there? Shorter detection range? Circumventing torpedo protection belts?

    • @Rosaslav
      @Rosaslav 4 месяца назад

      @@CmdrTyrael I found out it could depend on the map. My torpedoes often hit shallows when I launched them close to island, so with 1m depth they could fit in spaces they wouldn't be able to with 4m, I think

  • @Secret-gn5pf
    @Secret-gn5pf 2 года назад +2

    I keep coming back to this vid

  • @Rosaslav
    @Rosaslav 5 месяцев назад +1

    This is going to be VERY relevant video currently, with battle pass challenge for torpedo kills starting today and IJN destroyer easily obtainable from WT Mobile:)
    I torpedoed like one ship on purpose in my WT Naval history so far, so wish me luck:)

  • @Secret-gn5pf
    @Secret-gn5pf 2 года назад +5

    I thank you for this. Really needed help with the torps.

    • @CmdrTyrael
      @CmdrTyrael  2 года назад +3

      Make sure to always set them to 4m depth. They do max damage and are invisible to the enemy in RB. They just don't work against coastal boats at that depth. That's what guns are for though

    • @Secret-gn5pf
      @Secret-gn5pf 2 года назад +2

      @@CmdrTyrael thanks for the info

    • @Secret-gn5pf
      @Secret-gn5pf 2 года назад +2

      @@CmdrTyrael What do I do in very open maps where I get hit as soon as I spawn.

  • @ltsalt
    @ltsalt Год назад +2

    Amazing video! Really helpful for someone like me who's just got into the IJN ships.

    • @CmdrTyrael
      @CmdrTyrael  Год назад +1

      Be sure to check out the Cruiser doctrine video then. It gives a good explanation of their fighting style and strength vs weaknesses. One of my favorite Tech trees

  • @notinsectanimoh4108
    @notinsectanimoh4108 2 года назад +3

    Great explanation, commander, thanks!

    • @CmdrTyrael
      @CmdrTyrael  2 года назад +1

      No worries! Glad you found it useful

  • @filli2429
    @filli2429 2 года назад +3

    great video🔥🔥🔥

    • @CmdrTyrael
      @CmdrTyrael  2 года назад +2

      I just unlocked the KOLN so I'll look to making your vid soon 👨‍✈️. I also have a UBOAT vid coming soon if you are looking for a change of pace from Warthunder o7.
      You got a sailor named after you regardless 🤣

  • @Drgunzo616
    @Drgunzo616 Год назад +7

    Trying to get better with my torpedo discipline instead of spamming them out at the start. Japanese ships have such a weird playstyle. Like in 10 matches in the Isuzu I have fifteen kills and only two deaths. The secondaries help immensely with PT boats and just saturating and frustrating DD's that get too close.

  • @mibraheem2263
    @mibraheem2263 2 года назад +5

    Amazing vid quick question which mode is better for grinding naval? For some reason i find arcade to be better because faster matches. Another question is that are there any special keybinds/ control we should adjust before playing naval?

    • @CmdrTyrael
      @CmdrTyrael  2 года назад +6

      In my opinion RB is the best mode. Worth the 4 min wait time. The rewards are much higher. My average game earns 50k per match.
      As for special key binds. I recommend watching my gunnery guide if you haven't already. It can be useful to have your radar to tools bound to separate keys. For ships that have them

    • @mibraheem2263
      @mibraheem2263 2 года назад +3

      @@CmdrTyrael alright ill be sure to watch thanks for the advice

    • @CharliMorganMusic
      @CharliMorganMusic 2 года назад +1

      Set windage to E and Q. Set elevation to mouse wheel.

    • @CharliMorganMusic
      @CharliMorganMusic 2 года назад +2

      @@CmdrTyrael SL rewards are higher but AB is much better for grinding.
      Also, don't forget to bring a fighter and a strike plan; it's up to two extra spawns.

  • @Benjaminsquad391
    @Benjaminsquad391 10 месяцев назад +1

    You have a new subscriber and Japanese navy friend :)

  • @mohammedabdelmoniem9144
    @mohammedabdelmoniem9144 6 месяцев назад +1

    at 2:30 red alert 3 empire of the rising sun music ...keep make more navy videos pls

    • @CmdrTyrael
      @CmdrTyrael  6 месяцев назад

      Orders received and acknowledged 🫡

  • @nighthawk8104
    @nighthawk8104 2 месяца назад +1

    I like the Japanese Navy and the Destroyers, but i need more practice with the Torpedo Doctrine... I rarely hit anything and they really hate beeing shot at. At 4.7 now and only got 13 kills total with the Torpedos. German destroyers are a lot more forgiving and can take more punishment before sinking, so i play them more risky and get more torp kills while knife fighting around islands

    • @CmdrTyrael
      @CmdrTyrael  2 месяца назад +1

      It is hard adapting a torpedo doctrine into a gun meta, but once you have a good sense of when you can be seen and what the enemy are doing. You can lay some effective spreads.
      Playing Germany like you do is the first step. They have great destroyers for torpedo brawls and this is the first step to going all in with long lance.

  • @lethao8731
    @lethao8731 2 года назад +2

    Reizo Tanaka !

    • @CmdrTyrael
      @CmdrTyrael  2 года назад +1

      Good old Tenacious Tanaka and the Tokyo express. 👨‍✈️

  • @budgetmuffin
    @budgetmuffin Год назад +2

    Should I have “shoot without alignment” on or off? what’s the difference? Love the videos.

    • @CmdrTyrael
      @CmdrTyrael  Год назад +2

      " *Shoot without alignment* " allows you to fire some of your main guns before they are lined up with the target. This can be useful at times when you need to react quickly and fire on a nearside target.
      Otherwise it can cause you to fire early before the gun is truly aligned with the target and cause a wild shot.
      Choose whichever seems to have more use for you. I turn this option ON personally.
      Thanks for the comment mate o7

    • @budgetmuffin
      @budgetmuffin Год назад +1

      @@CmdrTyrael Thanks a lot.

  • @Secret-gn5pf
    @Secret-gn5pf 2 года назад +3

    Quick question, you into CnC?

    • @CmdrTyrael
      @CmdrTyrael  2 года назад +5

      I love it 😀 first strategy game I ever played. It's probably obvious 🤣

    • @Secret-gn5pf
      @Secret-gn5pf 2 года назад +3

      @@CmdrTyrael one of the greatest series. I wish it would return. Same with Battlestations.

  • @tamamonomae7465
    @tamamonomae7465 4 месяца назад +1

    Shimose powder is not to be slept on

  • @FirstLast-cg9ic
    @FirstLast-cg9ic Год назад +3

    when doing 2:20 is using torpedo mode module optimal or not?

    • @CmdrTyrael
      @CmdrTyrael  Год назад +4

      Torpedo mode is only really useful when it gives a poor torpedo some extra range.
      If your using Japan don't bother with it.
      If your using a nation with shirt range torps, it may be worth it.

    • @FirstLast-cg9ic
      @FirstLast-cg9ic Год назад +2

      @@CmdrTyrael waht about italian destroyers?

    • @CmdrTyrael
      @CmdrTyrael  Год назад +4

      @@FirstLast-cg9ic Italian DD's have fast short range torpedos (4km), when you add torpedo mode it stretches it out to 10km. So it would be more suited for this tactic.

    • @FirstLast-cg9ic
      @FirstLast-cg9ic Год назад

      @@CmdrTyrael also can you make guide on which low tier coastal fleet vehicles are good in taking to bluewater fleet battles

  • @m96920
    @m96920 Год назад +2

    What style jpn have to play?

    • @CmdrTyrael
      @CmdrTyrael  Год назад +2

      I have a video all about their fighting style ruclips.net/video/XOH1tyTxqis/видео.html
      But in short form. Their destroyers rely on torpedo kills and ambush gunnery. Their cruisers hit hard, are accurate and are designed to directly support destroyers. (Fast and armoured against DD's)
      Basically backline and stealth play.

    • @m96920
      @m96920 Год назад +1

      @@CmdrTyrael thanks