Very true and if the plagiarized product will offer me practicality the same features/options at a significantly reduced price, I will always go with that
In Bangladesh, most people can't afford $100 keyboards. They want inexpensive ones with lots of features. Buying online is difficult due to credit card issues and taxes. This makes the MAD60 keyboard readily accessible through local sellers.
its literally stated at the start that its called that and not actually $20. people have been calling it the “$20 wooting” and the title is to clickbait and make people realise its not actually $20 and it seems to be working
It literally says "20$" in quotation marks, and he explains why in the first 20s. Every other YT video said it was 20$ when it's not, hence the quotation mark and explanations
im happy with my Mad 68 HE purchase tbh, i wasn't planning on dropping 200 dollars on a damn keyboard when i can get the same performance with just 40 dollars.
No, they said they would rather work on a different product which is better than taking a lawsuit. The reason being is because taking a lawsuit in china sucks horribly and I don't blame them at all.
"I have no stake in this" You mean aside from popular relations with a large keyboard manufacturer, as well as the content you will be able to create from their response.
The madlions really surprised me for its price point. I bought it to compare it to my Wooting 60he for shits and giggles. I do like the way that it comes in white instead of just black (fits my setup better). After comparing both, I will have to say that the madlions sounds good straight out the box but comparing the software and specs it is such a big win for Wooting. Id rather have a Wooting for a bit more money and knowing that it will have amazing software and continued updates than spending less on a questionable ripoff that wont be updated after like 2 weeks.
During its release it WAS actually as low as 22 dollars, I got mine for 26.43. Although im someone who disapprove of plagiarism, Im not someone who can afford a cheap HE keybpard other than the Madlions 60HE and this just shows that a keyboard that would normally be expensive is being sold at a cheap price means our technology is advancing further for people to be able to access it without having to cough up a huge sum. People tend to think that every gamer are well off and would have access to new technology and games. This is also exactly why ANY attempt to get rid of plagiarism using the law will NEVER succeed, especially in china. Here to represent the budget gamers from SEA. (I own an Inplay set thats how broke I am)
i respect that man. the whole part about the tech being improved to be cheaper and better is something im all for. mechanical keyboards used to start at $200 and now they are as cheap as ever. and this situation, i believe, is that for hall effect keyboards. also shout out to SEA.
To be honest wooting is like 1x-2x minimum wage/month in my country capital. As much as copying is bad atleast this way rapid trigger keyboard technology is not gatekept by the high price. For people from rich country or atleast high paying job wooting will be always worth it because of it's software and support meanwhile for people from non rich country and low paying job these keyboards (mad60he) is affordable and do its job.
I agree, I even think that the Price is way too high.. yes they do have nice Services.. But who needs that on a keyboard?? Most of the time People just Plug and Play.. it’s Not a car..
The wooting 60HE+ is about 8% of a month's pay at min wage here. For me personally it'd be about a fifth of a single week of work's earnings. Still "pricy" but clearly within reason for cutting edge stuff. It sucks but some countries just aren't target markets and I wouldn't blame you for throwing out the "ethics" at that point.
I completely agree, but I still think there are better options out there at this price range. And the biggest argument I hear is “Wooting has the better software.” I gotta be real here, I touch any keyboard’s software once, set up what I need, and never again. So the whole software thing is kinda invalid imo.
you need to review the MCHOSE 60 HE. its so much better quality than the Mad60 HE, im not sure why the mad60 got all the popularity rather than the mchose60.
You mean the Mchose Ace 60 Pro my friend, i have one here and bro this keyboard is so amazing ;) I have the Mad 60 He Ultimate also here but the Ace 60 Pro is on another level ! ;)
If someone can make the same thing cheaper then what's wrong? It's like saying a random brand copying the style of a jacket from Louis Vitton but selling it for like 20 bucks whereas LV is 2000 bucks, if you can get the same thing for cheaper it's always great, keeps the market competitive and there's no monopoly, consumer access becomes easier, new people would be much more interested to join in instead of spending 150+ dollars
It is (borderline) illegal bro, same thing with pandabuy, that shit got shut down. If you can make a keyboard that has its own twist to it and not a exact copy it is a different story.
One thing that is worth more than $20 is actual support and guarantees. What happens if your madlions breaks or if they decide to not update it anymore. Also on your point about make the same thing but cheaper is shows in the Wooting statement. Madlions can make it so cheap because they don't have any r&d costst while Wooting has to invest a lot to create new things. So that is the thing that is wrong. If they could make their own design and own marketing for $20 it would be a different story!
thing is, its not the "same thing", it definitely IS CHEAPER, but it isn't the same thing. There are other things you need to consider when factoring in the price of the item, not just the product itself. Sure, it'll give you the same functionalities of the real thing, but as wooting said, how long would it last as compared to the real thing? The video mentions one of the quality downsides of the thing, a lesser quality plastic may mean it could break faster under heavy use. The PCB could also be of lesser quality, with lesser quality ICs and capacitors, QC issues could also be more prevalent with the cheaper product, warranty coverage/ duration and how easy it is to contact the company for it, and lastly as Wooting also mentioned, the lack of innovation and progress. Being an outright plagiarized product means it brings nothing new to the table, they cut on R&D costs as well. All these together is enough reason for other people to buy products such as wooting even if it mean shelling out a bit more, and hence why plagiarized products will bring nothing to the table, not even "Market Competition".
if cheaper copycat = good, then no ones is going design anymore and no one will willing to create something new. all the market or company will just wait for other person to create a new things and copy it with cheaper price. Also, the price get lower, the quality gets lower too. I do agree and support it at some point that luxury product are overpriced and it doesn't come with the value and the quality sometimes. But still, copy other's product totally is unethical and its illegal in all around the world. Like what happened in university, do some effort and edit on your assignment and not just copy and paste other's works. Both "copy and paste" and "copy and add some ideas and spice on it" looks similar but its completely different in ethic and legal perspective
Straight out copying wooting is bad, but when it comes to Chinese companies copying each other just lmao wfc, I’m sure Chinese consumers will just buy the cheaper one as well without caring about ethical and shit
6:08 typing on my Mad 60 HE white ultimate, and in all tests this keyboard is better than Wooting (less latency, less deadzones, etc.), so it's so good) But the Wooting answer on 6:35 is so good, so mature
this kind of blatant plagiarism feels so weird to me cuz iirc those people has probably the most unique looking mouse out there, with pretty good reputation too. Why would they ever done this is beyond me
Honestly what were they thinking? Copying Wooting? Wooting owners literally swap the case whenever possible. They hate it. Why even copy something people don't like?
Eh I have the VXE Mad R and Mad68 R and they're a great combo. Paid under $100 for both. And they're pretty much endgame until something breaks. Maybe these companies can stop ripping off their customers with 'gamer' prices and tax.
so what i got out of this was that i should just buy the cheaper one and a braided cord and some sound dampening matting to insert and it will feel BETTER than the wooting? i mean it willl deff sound better . im actually in market i cant let go of my g910 orion help! def dont want a 60 tho need full size or TKL . i DO also like dedicated media controls. recommendations accepted ( maybe wireless so i can lose my extra keyboard in the sim seat, ) i dont like half caps either . i like assignable rgb as well for my sim driving games. and flight sims.
it's honestly a bit misleading that MAD Lions and Madlions have the same name. the first one is a spanish esports org and the other is a chinese brand that's focused on making knockoff products and is unrelated to the MAD Lions esports org.
For some reason, I am not able to access the browser software on my PC but it worked on my laptop and idk what setting I have to change for it to work. I can pair the keyboard and the page gets stuck at 'LOADING PROTOCOLVERSION'. I tried talking to seller but they cant help me either. I tried different browsers and VPN, reset the network settings but idk what the issue could be.
@@SquashyBoy I tried different browsers. reset all my network settings. repaired windows. still the same. not sure what setting is causing this to look into it.
It's not a lawsuit because as a Dutch company that will cost 6/7 number money. I know, I worked at a multinational with many clients from China (national companies and international branches within China).
These chinese companies can keep copying Wooting all they want but they'll never get the software right and that's important for these hall effect keyboards. Wootings maybe expensive, but they're so worth it coming from someone who just got the 80HE.
@DctrGizmo I didn't see the upgrade over the A75, I don't think wooting is worth its price. Also, my unit (and many people on wooting discord) kept disconnecting over and over which I never got with any other keyboard.
nah its not the same factory, and the sound is due to the closed back switches. similar sounding switches are the geon raws and the gat jade pros. Doesnt excuse the stock stabs on the wooting tho.
i used to be pro these knockoff companies as for us keyboard people, knockoff cherry switches were the birth of the modern hobby but it took a LOT of effort to wrangle companies like kailh and gateron into not being terrible quality, which was only possible because their only customers were hobbyists the companies that have a market any broader than niche hobbyists, like Massdrop, are still shit. so i think don't even try with these guys
1:18 still don’t know how to put that band in and no yt video I’ve watched that have reviewed this/wooting has shown the process. Skill issue yes but still bruh.
I am Not with you here. i like madlions for the fact that they copy the wooting and Sell it Cheaper.. and the Statement from wooting was horrible.. the Fake wooting has the same quality and even Sounds better.. and if the keyboard was Bad (Like they indirectly said) im sure the Company is Going to fail.. no one wants to waste Money on a product that is Not Going to work even if it is small Money.. Wooting has such a good name in the Keyboard Scene, that the Price they Are selling the Keyboard is Not Even mentioned once.. i even remember People hating on the rog ace hfx just on the fact its 200€.. even tho its like 10x better than the wooting in every way.. but yet Both are the Same Price... I have the same vibe here.
I think you’re missing the point. This is not a matter of “the better keyboard” rather an illegal case of copyright infringement. also yes the asus rog hfx is better than any of these keyboards and is probably my favourite feeling hall effect keyboard rn.
@SquashyBoy I Get Your Point.. it is illegal and not ethical to Copy something - put your Brand on it- and Sell it.. but at the same time.. it doesnt make sense that the wooting costs 200€.. as you Reviewed yourself.. madlion literally sells the Same product (imo even better) for 3 times less… This just screams to Copy it and Sell it for Cheaper... In my opinion selling the wooting for 200€ is more unethical than copying one and selling it for cheaper…
I think the reason behind the Wooting price is because they had to R&D the keyboard, plan out the whole process, and market it. And Madlions skips all the steps till the selling and profiting part. But I agree with you, the Wooting price is a HUGE premium. If we are talking raw materials alone, I think they are upcharging a butt ton. But at least they are a nice company to the community, ig. A perfect world would be the Wooting 60he (a 3-year-old keyboard) priced at $80 because it is still just a plastic keyboard. But oh well
"We'll cook"...lmfao how long have wooting been on the market and how long did they take to drop anything other than a 60% and 100%? They've had time to cook - they haven't cooked. Don't get me wrong, complete knockoffs are never a great thing but that's unfortunately the route a lot of chinese companies take; use a design/theme that is recognisable to draw attention to the product. But that doesn't change the fact that the wooting is nothing special and the other there are other hall effect or optical analogue keyboard out there that are MUCH better.
what? you call it "the $20 wooting clone" in the title but in the video you literally instantly say that its actually not $20? What the hell is even the point then. I don't get it man
He was saying that people were telling him to try this board showing comments of people saying it's $20, it's probably become popularised as the "$20 wooting" cause a bunch of people apparently got it for $20
its literally stated at the start that its called that and not actually $20. the title is to clickbait and make people realise its not actually $20 and it seems to be working
Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery.
True, never thought about it like that
keep being you wooting ❤❤
its like buying the reprinted $100 book for $10 and still get the same thing out of it lol
hi wooting can i have free keyboad
Very true and if the plagiarized product will offer me practicality the same features/options at a significantly reduced price, I will always go with that
“Take control” ❌
“Fake control” ✅
Ok his uploading schedule is getting better
In Bangladesh, most people can't afford $100 keyboards. They want inexpensive ones with lots of features. Buying online is difficult due to credit card issues and taxes. This makes the MAD60 keyboard readily accessible through local sellers.
you tried it! :D good video as always!
indeed it was a good video
was inspired by your video ;)
"I lied in the title about the price of the keyboard!", "...but I digress."
Alright brother, you've left profound first impressions on me.
I didn't even notice lol
its literally stated at the start that its called that and not actually $20. people have been calling it the “$20 wooting” and the title is to clickbait and make people realise its not actually $20 and it seems to be working
To be fair he did put the 20$ between quotation marks
It literally says "20$" in quotation marks, and he explains why in the first 20s. Every other YT video said it was 20$ when it's not, hence the quotation mark and explanations
im happy with my Mad 68 HE purchase tbh, i wasn't planning on dropping 200 dollars on a damn keyboard when i can get the same performance with just 40 dollars.
mad 68he
"The $20 Wooting Clone. To start off the keyboard is actually not 20$" very cool.
he put "20" because thats what people refer to it as, not what it is.
Wooting literally said “we lost to these mfs but please buy our products”
No, they said they would rather work on a different product which is better than taking a lawsuit. The reason being is because taking a lawsuit in china sucks horribly and I don't blame them at all.
Why do you think all these knock offs come from China, it's impossible to sue them
Man see keyboard, man see keyboard review, man happy
"I have no stake in this"
You mean aside from popular relations with a large keyboard manufacturer, as well as the content you will be able to create from their response.
The madlions really surprised me for its price point. I bought it to compare it to my Wooting 60he for shits and giggles. I do like the way that it comes in white instead of just black (fits my setup better). After comparing both, I will have to say that the madlions sounds good straight out the box but comparing the software and specs it is such a big win for Wooting. Id rather have a Wooting for a bit more money and knowing that it will have amazing software and continued updates than spending less on a questionable ripoff that wont be updated after like 2 weeks.
Don't EVER say "a bit more money" when comparing a $50 keyboard to a $250+ one. This is clear buyer's remorse lol
allat spend a bit more money just to be gold is crazy
@@kokorocrunch6615 I build keyboards as a hobby, I know I’ll still be shit in the end 😂
madlions does update their firmware tho
@@kraenovt don't worry, these people think madlions is a random Chinese company that definitely hasn't been around and consistent for a while now lol
During its release it WAS actually as low as 22 dollars, I got mine for 26.43.
Although im someone who disapprove of plagiarism, Im not someone who can afford a cheap HE keybpard other than the Madlions 60HE and this just shows that a keyboard that would normally be expensive is being sold at a cheap price means our technology is advancing further for people to be able to access it without having to cough up a huge sum.
People tend to think that every gamer are well off and would have access to new technology and games.
This is also exactly why ANY attempt to get rid of plagiarism using the law will NEVER succeed, especially in china.
Here to represent the budget gamers from SEA. (I own an Inplay set thats how broke I am)
i respect that man. the whole part about the tech being improved to be cheaper and better is something im all for. mechanical keyboards used to start at $200 and now they are as cheap as ever. and this situation, i believe, is that for hall effect keyboards. also shout out to SEA.
I bought the Mad60HE from Ali Express and its honestly amazing quality for the price, I love it
To be honest wooting is like 1x-2x minimum wage/month in my country capital. As much as copying is bad atleast this way rapid trigger keyboard technology is not gatekept by the high price. For people from rich country or atleast high paying job wooting will be always worth it because of it's software and support meanwhile for people from non rich country and low paying job these keyboards (mad60he) is affordable and do its job.
I agree, I even think that the Price is way too high.. yes they do have nice Services.. But who needs that on a keyboard?? Most of the time People just Plug and Play.. it’s Not a car..
The wooting 60HE+ is about 8% of a month's pay at min wage here. For me personally it'd be about a fifth of a single week of work's earnings. Still "pricy" but clearly within reason for cutting edge stuff. It sucks but some countries just aren't target markets and I wouldn't blame you for throwing out the "ethics" at that point.
I completely agree, but I still think there are better options out there at this price range.
And the biggest argument I hear is “Wooting has the better software.” I gotta be real here, I touch any keyboard’s software once, set up what I need, and never again. So the whole software thing is kinda invalid imo.
@@SquashyBoy I think the madlion is the best Price Value Keyboard you Can Get Right now..
i saw this on taobao, and I'm so happy squashy made a vid on it!
“Keyboard drama” that don’t even sound real 😭
Thanks for reviewing the mad60he was wondering if i should get it or not
One thing I would worry about is that, since you can only (?) configure it from the website, if the company shuts down, aren't you kinda out of luck?
yea
I know that ATK (main brand) has web drived and actual software, but idk if Madlions will do that.
So does Wooting, so does every other website based configurator.
Remeber you have option aside from web based driver to download file of driver in .bat extencion so that is the last resort if company go bye bye
you can run the web software locally
you need to review the MCHOSE 60 HE. its so much better quality than the Mad60 HE, im not sure why the mad60 got all the popularity rather than the mchose60.
I also believe Mchose is better, but I think the mad60 is getting more attention because it's a wooting clone.
You mean the Mchose Ace 60 Pro my friend, i have one here and bro this keyboard is so amazing ;)
I have the Mad 60 He Ultimate also here but the Ace 60 Pro is on another level ! ;)
If someone can make the same thing cheaper then what's wrong? It's like saying a random brand copying the style of a jacket from Louis Vitton but selling it for like 20 bucks whereas LV is 2000 bucks, if you can get the same thing for cheaper it's always great, keeps the market competitive and there's no monopoly, consumer access becomes easier, new people would be much more interested to join in instead of spending 150+ dollars
It is (borderline) illegal bro, same thing with pandabuy, that shit got shut down. If you can make a keyboard that has its own twist to it and not a exact copy it is a different story.
One thing that is worth more than $20 is actual support and guarantees. What happens if your madlions breaks or if they decide to not update it anymore.
Also on your point about make the same thing but cheaper is shows in the Wooting statement. Madlions can make it so cheap because they don't have any r&d costst while Wooting has to invest a lot to create new things.
So that is the thing that is wrong. If they could make their own design and own marketing for $20 it would be a different story!
thing is, its not the "same thing", it definitely IS CHEAPER, but it isn't the same thing. There are other things you need to consider when factoring in the price of the item, not just the product itself. Sure, it'll give you the same functionalities of the real thing, but as wooting said, how long would it last as compared to the real thing? The video mentions one of the quality downsides of the thing, a lesser quality plastic may mean it could break faster under heavy use. The PCB could also be of lesser quality, with lesser quality ICs and capacitors, QC issues could also be more prevalent with the cheaper product, warranty coverage/ duration and how easy it is to contact the company for it, and lastly as Wooting also mentioned, the lack of innovation and progress. Being an outright plagiarized product means it brings nothing new to the table, they cut on R&D costs as well. All these together is enough reason for other people to buy products such as wooting even if it mean shelling out a bit more, and hence why plagiarized products will bring nothing to the table, not even "Market Competition".
i never said it was wrong, i just said its scummy. oh btw if wooting patented their designs, then yes its wrong to copy the case 1 for 1.
if cheaper copycat = good, then no ones is going design anymore and no one will willing to create something new.
all the market or company will just wait for other person to create a new things and copy it with cheaper price. Also, the price get lower, the quality gets lower too. I do agree and support it at some point that luxury product are overpriced and it doesn't come with the value and the quality sometimes. But still, copy other's product totally is unethical and its illegal in all around the world.
Like what happened in university, do some effort and edit on your assignment and not just copy and paste other's works. Both "copy and paste" and "copy and add some ideas and spice on it" looks similar but its completely different in ethic and legal perspective
Squashy should do a Shoppee haul
Nice vid mate
Bro i beg to you for a review of Mchose Ace 60 Pro with Uranus Switches (seems to be an insane keyboard, and also budget LIKE WTF)
Straight out copying wooting is bad, but when it comes to Chinese companies copying each other just lmao wfc, I’m sure Chinese consumers will just buy the cheaper one as well without caring about ethical and shit
yea youre 100% right. shout out to my ancestors
4:28 The Nano68 is actually their newest keyboard, maybe ur confusing it with the fire68 which came out before the mad60he.
i knew this was coming after seeing all the other reviews
Will be running faster then light for this
6:08 typing on my Mad 60 HE white ultimate, and in all tests this keyboard is better than Wooting (less latency, less deadzones, etc.), so it's so good)
But the Wooting answer on 6:35 is so good, so mature
This isn't the Squashy Boy i know. Where that 10 millions years wait time for new videos
I just bought the mad60he is it worth to cancel the order and get another one?
NGL I bought the mad 60 he because I don't have that big of a budget if I had a better budget 100% I'm buying a wooting
i feel like "the $38 wooting clone" would have garnered the same amount of attention instead of just lying
Does the ak820 also have rapid trigger?
Yay finally real content again
Mine delivering in 3 days😀
same :D
this kind of blatant plagiarism feels so weird to me cuz iirc those people has probably the most unique looking mouse out there, with pretty good reputation too. Why would they ever done this is beyond me
If I didn't hate not having arrow keys, I would definitely snag this at that price, just to get a feel for a hall effect board.
there's a 68 key version that has arrow keys
Honestly what were they thinking?
Copying Wooting?
Wooting owners literally swap the case whenever possible. They hate it. Why even copy something people don't like?
Eh I have the VXE Mad R and Mad68 R and they're a great combo. Paid under $100 for both. And they're pretty much endgame until something breaks.
Maybe these companies can stop ripping off their customers with 'gamer' prices and tax.
so what i got out of this was that i should just buy the cheaper one and a braided cord and some sound dampening matting to insert and it will feel BETTER than the wooting? i mean it willl deff sound better . im actually in market i cant let go of my g910 orion help! def dont want a 60 tho need full size or TKL . i DO also like dedicated media controls. recommendations accepted ( maybe wireless so i can lose my extra keyboard in the sim seat, ) i dont like half caps either . i like assignable rgb as well for my sim driving games. and flight sims.
This is the sayodevice equivelant keyboard
it's honestly a bit misleading that MAD Lions and Madlions have the same name. the first one is a spanish esports org and the other is a chinese brand that's focused on making knockoff products and is unrelated to the MAD Lions esports org.
Can you please try logitech pro x tkl rapid?
You should mod it
For some reason, I am not able to access the browser software on my PC but it worked on my laptop and idk what setting I have to change for it to work. I can pair the keyboard and the page gets stuck at 'LOADING PROTOCOLVERSION'. I tried talking to seller but they cant help me either. I tried different browsers and VPN, reset the network settings but idk what the issue could be.
At first , I also like that but after I close my browser and refresh and just wait, it changed from slow to faster setup
@@hadan8827 I've been trying for 4 days but nothing is working.
it could be a browser connection error. or something with hardware acceleration in your browser. Im not sure tho
@@SquashyBoy I tried different browsers. reset all my network settings. repaired windows. still the same. not sure what setting is causing this to look into it.
It's not a lawsuit because as a Dutch company that will cost 6/7 number money. I know, I worked at a multinational with many clients from China (national companies and international branches within China).
I’m about to buy the madlad60 HE just so I can toss the PCB in my Singa Unikorn
and i just bought a drunkdeer as well
fr same but I think DD sounds better than both personally
@@ReidAstreai agree
unfortunately i missed out on when they were selling the g65(?) for half price on amazon 😭😭😭
How durable are these pcbs tho? Only time will tell.
now change the switch, im sure it will be fun
First 🔥🔥, Love your videos!
cant wait to get mine , been waiting forever tho lol (also idc if im supporting a knock off)
damn seems like it's worth it
edit: ok nvm I guess I'll go for the better alternatives
I wonder if the OEM manufacturer for Wooting, is now "sharing" the Wooting design to anyone with some cash...
right
wouldnt suprise this is just another overnight china factory practice
i got the 68he and so far so good
the socd and rapid trigger work like intended
it does have horrible rbg
but other than that its a really good board
These chinese companies can keep copying Wooting all they want but they'll never get the software right and that's important for these hall effect keyboards. Wootings maybe expensive, but they're so worth it coming from someone who just got the 80HE.
Coming from someone who returned the 80HE, I'll be keeping my drunkdeer A75, the software is quite comparable.
@ Why did you end up returning it?
@DctrGizmo I didn't see the upgrade over the A75, I don't think wooting is worth its price. Also, my unit (and many people on wooting discord) kept disconnecting over and over which I never got with any other keyboard.
Wooting is playing it cool now until its all "IDENTITY THEFT IS NOT A JOKE JIM"
mad 60he is good if your on a budget
Funny how wooting is worse in terms of stock sound, both in switch sound and stabs sound. They most likely use the same factory as wooting
nah its not the same factory, and the sound is due to the closed back switches. similar sounding switches are the geon raws and the gat jade pros. Doesnt excuse the stock stabs on the wooting tho.
I'm sure these are super important to gaming keyboards xd.
@Rotasu_ I mean, it's better to have good stabs, especially for a high end keyboard like Wooting.
which version is better no rgb or with rgb?
huge l but i might just take it its so cheap, keep in mind that the case is plastic but its so cheap the pcb and software itself is worth
7:29 I don’t pay for Spotify tho…just raw dog with ads
my man
want a break from the ads ?
Hello squashy
has the malware issue happened before?
better to be safe if he has the setup to test for it
you guys pay for music?
7:15 yo my keyboard is mentioned lol
i used to be pro these knockoff companies as for us keyboard people, knockoff cherry switches were the birth of the modern hobby
but it took a LOT of effort to wrangle companies like kailh and gateron into not being terrible quality, which was only possible because their only customers were hobbyists
the companies that have a market any broader than niche hobbyists, like Massdrop, are still shit. so i think don't even try with these guys
So all I got was it’s a very good keyboard for the price but if I don’t wana upset Wooting
Wooting so good they made wooting 2
looks like wooting keyboards are generic chinese oem now, nice
nice
1:18 still don’t know how to put that band in and no yt video I’ve watched that have reviewed this/wooting has shown the process. Skill issue yes but still bruh.
yea no i hate installing them
@ understandable, I just need to find one that shows the process 🫡
If it's "OK" and cheap then why shouldn't I buy it
I am Not with you here.
i like madlions for the fact that they copy the wooting and Sell it Cheaper.. and the Statement from wooting was horrible.. the Fake wooting has the same quality and even Sounds better.. and if the keyboard was Bad (Like they indirectly said) im sure the Company is Going to fail.. no one wants to waste Money on a product that is Not Going to work even if it is small Money..
Wooting has such a good name in the Keyboard Scene, that the Price they Are selling the Keyboard is Not Even mentioned once.. i even remember People hating on the rog ace hfx just on the fact its 200€.. even tho its like 10x better than the wooting in every way.. but yet Both are the Same Price... I have the same vibe here.
I think you’re missing the point. This is not a matter of “the better keyboard” rather an illegal case of copyright infringement.
also yes the asus rog hfx is better than any of these keyboards and is probably my favourite feeling hall effect keyboard rn.
@SquashyBoy I Get Your Point.. it is illegal and not ethical to Copy something - put your Brand on it- and Sell it..
but at the same time.. it doesnt make sense that the wooting costs 200€.. as you Reviewed yourself.. madlion literally sells the Same product (imo even better) for 3 times less… This just screams to Copy it and Sell it for Cheaper...
In my opinion selling the wooting for 200€ is more unethical than copying one and selling it for cheaper…
I think the reason behind the Wooting price is because they had to R&D the keyboard, plan out the whole process, and market it. And Madlions skips all the steps till the selling and profiting part.
But I agree with you, the Wooting price is a HUGE premium. If we are talking raw materials alone, I think they are upcharging a butt ton. But at least they are a nice company to the community, ig.
A perfect world would be the Wooting 60he (a 3-year-old keyboard) priced at $80 because it is still just a plastic keyboard. But oh well
@@SquashyBoy 👍👍
Can the madlions 60he be case swapped and use the jade pro?
Yes it's GH60 compatible,Any switch can work apparently as long as you calibrate it.
@Khino727 sheesh uh does it have snap tap or whatever that's called?
@Khino727 in theory you can even use the wooting aftermarket plates?
@@shinobee771 I've seen some reviews swap for the tofu redux and gateron jade pros. It has snap tap too.
"We'll cook"...lmfao how long have wooting been on the market and how long did they take to drop anything other than a 60% and 100%? They've had time to cook - they haven't cooked.
Don't get me wrong, complete knockoffs are never a great thing but that's unfortunately the route a lot of chinese companies take; use a design/theme that is recognisable to draw attention to the product. But that doesn't change the fact that the wooting is nothing special and the other there are other hall effect or optical analogue keyboard out there that are MUCH better.
yeah cool change your title then 0:14
what? you call it "the $20 wooting clone" in the title but in the video you literally instantly say that its actually not $20? What the hell is even the point then. I don't get it man
He was saying that people were telling him to try this board showing comments of people saying it's $20, it's probably become popularised as the "$20 wooting" cause a bunch of people apparently got it for $20
what kyle said^
@kylesanders9543 why not put quotation marks then? It literally just says the $20 wooting clone as if he's stating it
ive changed that, thanks
yeah... who said it was $20? where did that come from? i don't expect clickbait from you
its literally stated at the start that its called that and not actually $20. the title is to clickbait and make people realise its not actually $20 and it seems to be working
just get the luminkey lx60 HE
"Produce a better sound" literally silent
Why not just change the title to $40 keyboard? misleading and clickbaity for the sake of being 'quirky'.
wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Lol its on Shopee all over and cheap man
Feels like a wooting PR video. Didn't even compare the specs of both keyboard.
It’s a good keyboard at a moral cost. There’s nothing more to say really.
Brother he mentioned them all
Great video, glad you called out the horseshit with this product.
omg im early
The lawsuit will go crazy
It won't because Madlions is Chinese they are immune to copyright
Wooting literally said they are not entertaining a lawsuit
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Hva ea mad 68he white in my cart waiting, this video game me more insensitive to buy it. On a side note F*** wooting
ok that was racist as hell
Wdym?
what the "almost impossible to win lawsuit against China company in China" part? if so then buddy you're completely lost in touch with reality
and i just bought a drunkdeer as well