It seems like M understands the problem of sibling rivalry. He feeds E18 while E17 is asleep, fills his crop, and then feeds E17. This time we don’t see the rivalry. Good job M!
The first time dad came home after the babies were returned and he saw the strong one beating up on the weaker of the two, you could see that dad was obviously trying to make him stop. A couple times dad moves the bully, gets in between the two and twice actually tosses bedding on the weak baby...I’m sure I’m an attempt to protect it. If this chick doesn’t survive it won’t be because dad didn’t try...that’s for sure.
So glad that E18 got fed, he was kinda hesitate there, but it's understandable. E17 is more than likely a female considering the size and her bossy attitude! But...we've been down this road before and both eaglets did well, fledged and took their life's journey. Just remember E15 and E16 last season, E15 was very bossy and possessive, she didn't want E16 in the nest!! Annnnd she didn't want to leave!!! I think she holds the world record of staying home the longest!🤣 We love them still❤❤❤🥰🥰🥰
18 seems very scared of 17 and doesn't even want adjust to get closer to feed I'm rooting for 18 to show some smarts and some fight you can do it lil one 🦅🧠💪
That's how they learn. Life is tough out there. E 18 will learn that. I have watched for a long while here and it is hard sometimes with I bet all of us to want to step in and kiss those "boo-boos" All better.💖
I was watching live cam earlier this morning during breakfast and it hurts to see little E18 beaten up by E17 so hard he hasn't eaten since yesterday morning after the renesting by CROW! glad he get to eat now that E17 in a food coma.
I feel like such a dork. I’m all the way across the country in a different time zone worried about whether the runt eagle will ever get fed. Or, whether the sibling will peck it to death. This is my life during the pandemic with not much of my own life drama. I so appreciate your videos. Mother Nature goes on in her ways as we watch helplessly. Thank you for all your hard work bringing us this story. ❤️
I’m in Australia doing exactly the same thing. Up all hours of my night time watching and waiting for an eaglet to get fed. We should start a club! 🤓 EDIT: we could call the club The Desperados (by the Eagles). 🤣
Hi there from New Zealand - I'm also up all hours of the night/early morning watching these magnificent birds and willing E18 (and all the other juniors) to be strong and thrive. M15 does tend to do more private feedings of the younger eaglets. It's such a privilege having a "bird's eye view" of eagles living in nature and I really appreciate Lady Hawk and others who produce these videos for us.
I am afraid 18 is not going to make it. 17 attacks it all the time, not even during feeding. If 18 even moves a little it gets attacked by 17. I have never seen such vicious sibling rivalry before and I have watched lots of nests. I have been watching all day and it is so sad. 17 is afraid of it's parents even at this point. M knows it has to hide feeding 18 too, as soon as 17 woke up, M had food in his mouth and walked over to 17 to give it to them so it didn't see him feeding 18. It does upset me. I am hoping 18 makes it but I wouldn't put lots of money on that.
Hello portlandval55 and thanks for taking the time to leave a comment! There are thousands of viewers that are watching during the pandemic and have become very attached to the eaglets already. This feeding was a nice one for E18 and E18 got two more feeding after this so went to bed with a full crop ♥
Thank you Lady Hawk!! So lovely to watch M15 feed E18, I liked very much that M15 persisted with offering E18 fish until finally E18 started to accept and eat with gusto!! It was hard to watch E18 turn away from the food at first and see his/her conditioning to E17's dominance, even though E17 was asleep and not near them at the time, E18 ate well and I hope get's plenty of private feedings from mum and dad!! Hopefully very soon E17 will realise that having E18 for a sibling is the best thing ever!!
Lady Hawk I saw this live and I just have to say I'm so glad little E18 got that private feeding. He reallllly needed it. It really hurt me that he was scared to take food from M15. I'm hoping that this food and a couple more of these feedings will give him the strength of the Hulk or Popeye. Thanks for a Happy video !! 🦅♥️🦅
SO amazing that these wonderful parents immediately went back into it when the kids came home!!! They love to be parents!! People should learn from them!! God bless this little family.
I think the parents are well aware of what's going on, hence M breaking up the bonking, being so patient w/E18 until he understood it was ok to eat. So I'm gonna be positive about it. Good job Harriet & M!!!💞
I was crying ...M is such a good, patient, and loving Dad Bless his heart. He was the same way with 16...makes you think he understands because he had a bossy sister. !8 is so much like 16....this rivalry is a lot tougher so we can pray that 18 is able to survive....or maybe Mom will give 17 a timeout.....a BIG timeout. Thanks LH...this video helped cheer me up after watching earlier today XOXO
Man E17 is sure a booger, Ive heard babies can get very aggressive beyond the bonks , now I’ve seen it.. ugh.. ( Iil guy looked a little afraid to take food at first) .. poor E18but tries his lil best.. stay strong lil one.. ❤️ Oh my heart and this family 🥰
I trust M and Harriet. They always know how to feed and care for their babies. They never neglected to feed any of their beloved children. They never let us down. Good job, M. I'm proud of you! 😊💘💕❤💕
I really love seeing E18's big crop!💖 And E17's is huge! She *wants to want* to eat but she can barely waddle over to dad for a top-up. No room for even a nibble🥰 M15 is very strategic about feeding his little one... I suspect he was the lil in his natal nest😘🐣 Thanks so much Ladyhawk, for this wonderful and reassuring video & great scap🥰
It is normal and we see it all the time with the younger eaglet having to wait his/her turn for the older one to eat first. I wouldn't worry, especially here there has always been plenty of food resources brought in by Harriett and M. These two are very experienced and know what they are doing. They will also double feed, so when they do that then there is no worries competition. The only thing I wish the parent's would do like us humans is step in and allow both to get their fair shot, but we can't humanize these wild creatures and compare them to us. Ultimately both birds will eat plenty and Harriett and M will make sure both are ready when their time comes.
Great reminder. I’ve watched the giraffes at Animal Adventure Park for years...April was famous with the cam during the pregnancy watch and delivery a few years ago. We always have to remind folks about applying human pregnancy stuff to the giraffes. I’m new to the eagle cam and needed that reminder myself. Thanks
I noticed when they were at crow, E17 got more food by weight than E18. Than makes sense as the larger being usually eats more. So even if E17 gets more food, it doesn't mean E18 could even eat as much.
@@dustigenes For sure and since they are still young and until both are fully grown 17 will always be slightly larger than 18. But give it a week after full grown and both will be the same size.
@@justingraham1774 Depending if the are the same sex or not. Females are larger. So it could very well be that E17 is female and E 18 is male. Otherwise yes, they should end up the same size later on.
@@dustigenes yep very true, but unfortunately without banding here while they are growing up by scientists it will remain a mystery and we'll never know for sure. With fully mature adults you can tell when there is a female next to a male and obviously which one is laying the eggs. For all we know they both could be male, both could be female or 18 could be female, it's anyone's guess at this point. Hopefully they both thrive
Thank-you for this explanation. I was worrying earlier about whether E18 was going to get any food - it bothered me so much I DID quit watching. Now I'm glad dad came to the rescue. Good advice.
Thank you Lady Hawk. I am new to watching these Eagles. I feel for everyone that is thinking the way i am and I'm glad I'm not alone. I always look for your posts because you explain so much and i really appreciate that. Thank you to all the others making comments, I love reading them knowing im not alone in the way I feel. God bless these precious babies,their parents and those of us watching and caring.
While it is uncomfortable to watch them fight over food, I try to see the beautiful sides. It was such a joy to watch E15 and E16, my crowning memories although she didn't want to leave. One beautiful memory was E16 learning trick ways to get fed. Hopefully E18 will find ways too. Thank you for the video
Hello Delores you have a very good prospective in regards to watching these live cams! We should just take it day by day and enjoy what we see in these moments of plenty. It is comforting to know that we have all been down this road before with watching the sibling rivalry over the years. Fortunately it does not last too long and we will be able to enjoy the E's growing up and becoming those apex raptors that will one day soar the skies!
This is the first time from this stage and it's real hard to watch at times,I then realize this is the wild and I'm privileged just to be able to watch this,I have had to turn off at times but I'm so grateful for what you write.Thank you so much.
While the bully sleeps, E18 eats. 😊. I was so happy to see the full crop. Also, watching Harriet in the nest with each eaglet on an opposite side. These parents know what they’re doing.
Thank you for the clarification Ladyhwak. I was way too worried for E18. I even dreamt about the eaglets last night. Thank you for the great videos. ❤❤❤
M's patience with little E18 was amazing to watch. I was wondering if being fed at CROW would impact how they ate once back at the nest. Seems E18 got the hang of it afterall! Hopefully he continues to make it!! I'm rooting for him despite the protestations from his big sis
I felt the same way Sarah. So sweet to watch. Didn’t take long for him to get the hang of it either did it?! And those crops!! H&M truly are remarkable parents!
I am shocked at just how aggressive E17 is as well. This is only the second round of eaglets I've been able to watch and I dont remember it being this bad last year! With luck, H and M will do double feeding for E18, or hopefully E18 can keep away from his feisty sis! I cant watch the bonking! Haha
I think E18 just liked the mice feeding at CROW. Now it’s back to fish !! These 2 will be allright with their good parents providing all the time but nature is wise and that’s why they call it Mother Nature. Thanks 😊
It was so good to see them both so well fed today they can barely stand! Saw E18 get another good feeding a little while ago. Mom and dad are making up for lost time I think . I watched them earlier today peering out of the nest as if they were saying “ isn’t it great to be home” and dreaming of the day they will fly away.
I don't know about everyone else but I have a very hard time with the sibling rivalry, so I always limit my viewing time. That is a normal.human emotion. However, mother nature is brutal and unforgiving. We just trust the eagles and move on.
Is it just me or is he keeping one eye on his sister the whole time he’s eating...kind of afraid to eat lol...Poor little guy I’m rooting for him to get his confidence back 🧡🧡🧡
E 18 says" I am not eating your rotten fish dad, after all, I am special. I was feed filet mignon and fresh fish at the last hotel I went to and in a private bed, protected from that monster that is full there"!
TY LH I have watched since they were taken and returned. Yes E17 is awful in every way. Almost doesn’t want E18 to eat. BUT... mom and dad are way too savvy for E17. And they finally get E18 to trust them and eat some wonderful food. All the while E17 is in a food coma. Mom and Dad are so skilled at raising a clutch of two! So happy to see E18 finally with a large crop. 😘❤️🦅 it will take time but I TTE and especially H and M! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
No worries - M15 and Harriet are fantastic parents, once they recovered from the shock of Both the Es reappearing in the nest, they were right back into their Super parents routine and they will make sure both Es get fed, if anything E18 looks normal while E17 looks to have overeaten a bit as the crop is as big as a basketball - given the history of the SWFL nest the Younger Eaglets actually do better than the Older ones - E3 and E5 both died, and E12 and E15 left the nest area much later than their younger siblings did - I think the younger ones learn the tricks of survival out of necessity quicker than the older ones - in any case none of them are 'Bullies' they are just Baby Eagles doing the best they can to survive in a world they don't understand - but the Es are fortunate to have the best Eagle Parents possible in H & M to teach them, so they will both be fine and grow into great adult Eagles. :)
Very well stated, indeed. You made me feel better, and that's really hard to do when it comes to this behaviour that is so very hard for me to watch. I just shut it down and move on and cry.
Great comment - it’s the truth! LOVE Harriet & M15 ❤️❤️❤️ The sibling rivalry can be hard to watch but, it’s important for all to understand that no baby eagle is a ‘bully’. Like you said, they’re just learning. They’re so lucky to have such awesome parents! 🥰
Ouu, thats so nice to see! Though I have to keep reminding myself that these are natural predators, and that the competitive behavior is just part of their nature. Human feelings get the best of me sometimes.
These are experienced loving parents. Just barely 1 day back in the nest. Dad is patient and both mom and dad appear to be aware of the little bully! E18 whined until dad fed him. He definitely lets them know when he’s hungry. (And when his brother is not near. He’s a smart little guy) He looks strong and healthy. It is difficult to watch at times. Dominance is important for eagles to survive. Eagle friends, don’t be mad at CROW for putting them back in the nest when mom and dad were not there. These people are so knowledgeable and so experienced. They know many things that we don’t yet. I’m sure there are many factors that they had to think about. Timing seems like an important factor. Also, I’m glad they put them back before announcing it. Less people there less stress for them. 🤟🦅🦅🦅🦅
M15 is a good Dad. He would feed E16 separately also. I am confident that dad will continue to give E18 private feedings. One thing the eaglets learned at CROW is to sleep apart, which I have seen watching the live stream. It was sweet to see E18 go towards mom when Harriet returned to the nest.
It’s difficult to watch. A few years back, Spur was the younger at Eagle Country nest. NEVER had I seen such aggression as I did with Dandy bullying Spur. He even tried pushing Spur out of the nest multiple times. Spur hung on and became very sly. He just had to figure it out. If 18 can figure it out, he will thrive and fledge. Both at EC did so.
E18 was afraid to eat even with 17 sleeping. 17 is absolutely viscous and if 18 even moves a little at any time 17 goes after him/her. I have been watching the days video. It is horrible. 18 is not even allowed to eat at all, even if 17 has gotten their fill, it doesn't allow 18 to eat.
E18 is not daft and I saw him looking out of the corner of his left eye as E17 had a go at him. He was probably chuckling to himself that it was too late E17, I already got my feed and I have better things to do than fight wirh you all day. That just weakens me anyway. Not going to fall for that anymore. . . . . . . . . One day. . . .just you wait and see. . .
Let's not forget the last 2 eaglets E16 and E15 were the same way. E16 became a very strong juvie, while E15 actually needed more time before she finally flew off on her own. E18 will become a stronger one when all is said and done.
Dad must do a good conviction job to make E18 eat, poor little one, despite being hungry, is terrified on his brother!! But this time he managed to make a nice harvest!! 🦅🐟🐥😋 ♥️
Every year it’s always the same comments about how the sibling aggression is worst this year than ever before or that the youngest will starve to death. Obviously nature is nature and whatever happens happens but...at this nest all younger eaglets have lived and fledged successfully under Harriet and M15’s care. They get private feedings or duo-feedings and eventually they learn how to eat with their older sibling but maneuvering to a place where they can’t get bonked. So have faith people. It’s sad to watch now, but eventually the younger eaglet will thrive.
Lucienne - I can't find a bonking video anymore but E7 was the worst (in my opinion). Also E8 (its younger sibling) - had fishing line tightly around his leg - thankfully C R.O.W. helped him. Then E8 was attacked on the ground by an owl - broken femur and something else. Made a full recovery, was gone 3 months and H+M accepted him right away. - Stephanie
M15 is amazing. E18 will get there, Having been in care for a week, E18 is a little behind perfecting his techniques to get plenty of food. We saw this with E13, E16 and Romy amongst others. Until then, Harriet & M15 have got this. Love this family!
I really hope E17 don't kill the baby cuz it's very aggressive. I love yo watch buy it hurts me... But Still love to watch maybe one day I will take your advise and take a break if E17 don't come down a bit. Thanks
I couldn't watch for a long time today, I felt so worried. I'm glad to see the eaglet finally got to eat. I keep waiting for it to just peck the heck out of the other one! Gosh it's brutal to watch!
E17 has 18 trained. 18 won't start eating till they know absolutely they won't get bonked. Happened on late feed too tonight. But 18 went to sleep stuffed.
Did you see how E18 waited for M to eat some before he take his food! Such a good child! 🌸🌿❄️🦅💚💚 E18 loves his Parents! For sure Dad! So the other day, when mom tried to feed E18 and Didn’t succeed was he wanted her to eat first!!! ♥️♥️♥️😭😭😭such warm heart E18 has!!!
E17’s crop is twice bigger than E18’s. No wonder E17 is much heavier. With plenty food supplies 1/3 of food can still raise the little one. Kudos to the parents for working so hard to provide.
This will make E18 a strong eagle. I have raised several animals that were the weaker of the litter when young and all have grown to be strong and dominant survivors when adults.
LOL!! I love your name for the towel!!! I wish they had put it in the nest and gently plonked E17 in it, just for the duration of sibling dominance!! lol.
@@bartmadness830 For a week, the eaglets were at a rehab facility called CROW to clear-up an eye infection. While there, the carers would stick E17 on his/her own little towel when the bonking would start. Google it... lots of pics and vids from their stay.
Hola, creo que E18 estará bien. ¡Recuerde que Harriet y M15 son excelentes padres y proveedores y se asegurarán de que E18 se alimente todos los días de alguna manera! ¡Gracias por ver!
Hang in there Bette! E18 got two more feedings from Dad after this one and went to sleep with a full crop! One day at a time right? ♥♥ He is so much better today than he did yesterday bless his heart. Although he might lose more of his downy feathers in the near future. What a warrior E18 is!!
@@ladyhawk wOw..never thought this would affect me this much.breaks my heart to see E18 so afraid to even eat..just caught glimpses of the live cam...thanks for understanding...😣
@@ladyhawk viewing, like you said one day at a time...hopefully bonking stage will pass quickly & will resume watching full time and enjoy this privileged 'gift' of seeing our beautiful eagle family in it's entirety !!! 💖🦅🦅🦅🦅💖🤗💕💕
I am totally convinced that E18 will survive this ordeal. As he grows and puts on the Weight and he can then move about the nest independently then E17 will gradually lose power over him as did E15 did lose power over E16. And with Dads help and knowledge of the situation E18 will succeed. Ofcourse, Harriet is there too. But Dad is a special kind of Guy. He is also very playful and has a lot of patience too, which he showed with Bossy boots E15. He must have been laughing at all her antics. Saying to himself, She just needs time and patience and she will go off all by herself on her journey. And She/E15 did just that one day. While we were all panicking and thinking E15 was going to eat them out of house and home. This next Episode we are going to witness may be something similar. But Harriet and M15 are determined to bring up TWO Eagle chicks and Not One and a half Eagle chicks. Of that purpose I am confident in them both.
Typical two eaglet nest. E17 had a huge crop at breakfast. E18 had a huge crop at lunch. Both have huge crops throughout the afternoon. Both healthy, strong eaglets. E18 might miss being a prince in his striped towel kingdom, but now back to reality and the skills both eaglets are learning will help them immensely when they leave the family home and have to survive on their own. Last season E15 and E16 had their rumbles at the pond even though both were well fed. Better to wrestle with family before having to compete with all the other juvies out there. They will have to steal and/or kill almost every day of their lives. So much for cute and cuddly 😂
E17 has to bite back. It's the only way to stop a bully. Glad to see he is getting a full crop so he will at least have some energy. Just needs the courage to put 17 in her place.
Disagree completely. Everyone said the same about E16 last year. It's always this way, kind of like big brother little brother. Harriett and M know what they are doing. Trust them.
Same thing happened with Jules and Romy. (NEFL) but Romy figured it out and would hide behind the Parents’ legs and grab the food. He was quick. He went on to successfully fledge as did Jules.
@@Teremei Best stay put and wait to be fed, there's no shortage of food at this nest. Later, he'll also learn to steal, which is very useful for his future life. E17's agressiveness is good omen for his/her future life, but E18 will also learn from his position.
It is good to see they are not bonking. I doubt that E17 has a bald spot. Think they're at the stage of having down feather making an appearance along with some pin feathers.
Dad, you're the best for taking care of 18
E 18 really needed this meal. Great job dad.
It seems like M understands the problem of sibling rivalry. He feeds E18 while E17 is asleep, fills his crop, and then feeds E17. This time we don’t see the rivalry. Good job M!
Amazing Dad is Mighty M!🤗💖🙏
M15 is an amazing Dad!
Gotta ♥️ Dad 2 take this care of these 2 Nuggets...
I think he did that for E16 too.
The first time dad came home after the babies were returned and he saw the strong one beating up on the weaker of the two, you could see that dad was obviously trying to make him stop. A couple times dad moves the bully, gets in between the two and twice actually tosses bedding on the weak baby...I’m sure I’m an attempt to protect it. If this chick doesn’t survive it won’t be because dad didn’t try...that’s for sure.
What a wonderful dad! Did my heart good to see that.
E18 “toddling” over to a parent who has just flown into the nest is so ♥️.
My heart melted
So glad that E18 got fed, he was kinda hesitate there, but it's understandable. E17 is more than likely a female considering the size and her bossy attitude! But...we've been down this road before and both eaglets did well, fledged and took their life's journey. Just remember E15 and E16 last season, E15 was very bossy and possessive, she didn't want E16 in the nest!! Annnnd she didn't want to leave!!! I think she holds the world record of staying home the longest!🤣 We love them still❤❤❤🥰🥰🥰
Failure to launch 🤦🏻♀️
I can't believe how much I love her,She totally had a hugh personality.😀
@@ellenriemann576 yes she did! She left us with memories that will forever be imprinted in our hearts. 🥰🥰🥰
18 seems very scared of 17 and doesn't even want adjust to get closer to feed I'm rooting for 18 to show some smarts and some fight you can do it lil one 🦅🧠💪
That's how they learn. Life is tough out there. E 18 will learn that. I have watched for a long while here and it is hard sometimes with I bet all of us to want to step in and kiss those "boo-boos" All better.💖
@@judithk7644 M's persistence and smarts will keep 18 going he's one smart Eagle
I was watching live cam earlier this morning during breakfast and it hurts to see little E18 beaten up by E17 so hard he hasn't eaten since yesterday morning after the renesting by CROW! glad he get to eat now that E17 in a food coma.
No, he has eaten. He got his own fish and had a big crop.
I feel like such a dork. I’m all the way across the country in a different time zone worried about whether the runt eagle will ever get fed. Or, whether the sibling will peck it to death. This is my life during the pandemic with not much of my own life drama. I so appreciate your videos. Mother Nature goes on in her ways as we watch helplessly. Thank you for all your hard work bringing us this story. ❤️
I'm in the same boat as you, I live on the east coast.
I’m in Australia doing exactly the same thing. Up all hours of my night time watching and waiting for an eaglet to get fed. We should start a club! 🤓
EDIT: we could call the club The Desperados (by the Eagles). 🤣
Hi there from New Zealand - I'm also up all hours of the night/early morning watching these magnificent birds and willing E18 (and all the other juniors) to be strong and thrive. M15 does tend to do more private feedings of the younger eaglets. It's such a privilege having a "bird's eye view" of eagles living in nature and I really appreciate Lady Hawk and others who produce these videos for us.
I am afraid 18 is not going to make it. 17 attacks it all the time, not even during feeding. If 18 even moves a little it gets attacked by 17. I have never seen such vicious sibling rivalry before and I have watched lots of nests. I have been watching all day and it is so sad. 17 is afraid of it's parents even at this point. M knows it has to hide feeding 18 too, as soon as 17 woke up, M had food in his mouth and walked over to 17 to give it to them so it didn't see him feeding 18. It does upset me. I am hoping 18 makes it but I wouldn't put lots of money on that.
Hello portlandval55 and thanks for taking the time to leave a comment! There are thousands of viewers that are watching during the pandemic and have become very attached to the eaglets already. This feeding was a nice one for E18 and E18 got two more feeding after this so went to bed with a full crop ♥
Thank you Lady Hawk!! So lovely to watch M15 feed E18, I liked very much that M15 persisted with offering E18 fish until finally E18 started to accept and eat with gusto!! It was hard to watch E18 turn away from the food at first and see his/her conditioning to E17's dominance, even though E17 was asleep and not near them at the time, E18 ate well and I hope get's plenty of private feedings from mum and dad!! Hopefully very soon E17 will realise that having E18 for a sibling is the best thing ever!!
Lady Hawk I saw this live and I just have to say I'm so glad little E18 got that private feeding. He reallllly needed it. It really hurt me that he was scared to take food from M15. I'm hoping that this food and a couple more of these feedings will give him the strength of the Hulk or Popeye. Thanks for a Happy video !! 🦅♥️🦅
SO amazing that these wonderful parents immediately went back into it when the kids came home!!! They love to be parents!! People should learn from them!! God bless this little family.
It really didn't take them much time at all did it? Especially once they got over the shock of: "Is that you mom?"
I think the parents are well aware of what's going on, hence M breaking up the bonking, being so patient w/E18 until he understood it was ok to eat. So I'm gonna be positive about it. Good job Harriet & M!!!💞
I was crying ...M is such a good, patient, and loving Dad Bless his heart. He was the same way with 16...makes you think he understands because he had a bossy sister. !8 is so much like 16....this rivalry is a lot tougher so we can pray that 18 is able to survive....or maybe Mom will give 17 a timeout.....a BIG timeout. Thanks LH...this video helped cheer me up after watching earlier today XOXO
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I’m also cheering for him. And had tears last night. Praying for him
Man E17 is sure a booger, Ive heard babies can get very aggressive beyond the bonks , now I’ve seen it.. ugh.. ( Iil guy looked a little afraid to take food at first) .. poor E18but tries his lil best.. stay strong lil one.. ❤️
Oh my heart and this family 🥰
I trust M and Harriet. They always know how to feed and care for their babies. They never neglected to feed any of their beloved children. They never let us down. Good job, M. I'm proud of you! 😊💘💕❤💕
The attack from E17 made E18 afraid of everything even the parents who are trying to feed E18.
E18 ran right to dad, not scared... So ?
I really love seeing E18's big crop!💖 And E17's is huge! She *wants to want* to eat but she can barely waddle over to dad for a top-up. No room for even a nibble🥰
M15 is very strategic about feeding his little one... I suspect he was the lil in his natal nest😘🐣
Thanks so much Ladyhawk, for this wonderful and reassuring video & great scap🥰
So glad that baby got feed. Praying for him/her
It is normal and we see it all the time with the younger eaglet having to wait his/her turn for the older one to eat first. I wouldn't worry, especially here there has always been plenty of food resources brought in by Harriett and M. These two are very experienced and know what they are doing. They will also double feed, so when they do that then there is no worries competition. The only thing I wish the parent's would do like us humans is step in and allow both to get their fair shot, but we can't humanize these wild creatures and compare them to us. Ultimately both birds will eat plenty and Harriett and M will make sure both are ready when their time comes.
Great reminder. I’ve watched the giraffes at Animal Adventure Park for years...April was famous with the cam during the pregnancy watch and delivery a few years ago. We always have to remind folks about applying human pregnancy stuff to the giraffes. I’m new to the eagle cam and needed that reminder myself. Thanks
I noticed when they were at crow, E17 got more food by weight than E18. Than makes sense as the larger being usually eats more. So even if E17 gets more food, it doesn't mean E18 could even eat as much.
@@dustigenes For sure and since they are still young and until both are fully grown 17 will always be slightly larger than 18. But give it a week after full grown and both will be the same size.
@@justingraham1774 Depending if the are the same sex or not. Females are larger. So it could very well be that E17 is female and E 18 is male. Otherwise yes, they should end up the same size later on.
@@dustigenes yep very true, but unfortunately without banding here while they are growing up by scientists it will remain a mystery and we'll never know for sure. With fully mature adults you can tell when there is a female next to a male and obviously which one is laying the eggs. For all we know they both could be male, both could be female or 18 could be female, it's anyone's guess at this point. Hopefully they both thrive
Thanks Lady Hawk for the info in description for those new. You my Dear have the heart of an Eagle! 💖🙏🤗
You are very welcome!!
I’m glad the poor eaglet got fed. Was worried watching live cam. 😊❤️💕💞💖
It may be my imagination but dad seems to run a little interference with E17. ❤️
Glad to see E18 getting some food, it's heartbreaking to see him/her getting bonked all the time..
Daddy to the Rescue! Hopefully E18 will make it through Healthy and Strong, with Daddy looking out for him.
So happy for E18 to get that private feeding! Thank you M for being such a great Dad and provider ❤️🦅🦅
A father proud of his children! so awesome!
Look at their beautiful clear eyes! And beautiful full crops! Thank you Ladyhawk, this is very reassuring🤩
Thank-you for this explanation. I was worrying earlier about whether E18 was going to get any food - it bothered me so much I DID quit watching. Now I'm glad dad came to the rescue. Good advice.
Yes and Dad fed E18 two more times after this feeding! He is such a good Dad!!
M 15 super smart eagle , hope offspring will inherite the smart gene.
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Thank you Lady Hawk. I am new to watching these Eagles. I feel for everyone that is thinking the way i am and I'm glad I'm not alone. I always look for your posts because you explain so much and i really appreciate that. Thank you to all the others making comments, I love reading them knowing im not alone in the way I feel. God bless these precious babies,their parents and those of us watching and caring.
Daddy love ♥❤❤....gives me hope.
For us simple people it's heavy to see their sibling rivalry..🤔😲 I've got tears😢
But thankfully Mom and Dad are incredibly wise🤗🦅🦅
While it is uncomfortable to watch them fight over food, I try to see the beautiful sides. It was such a joy to watch E15 and E16, my crowning memories although she didn't want to leave. One beautiful memory was E16 learning trick ways to get fed. Hopefully E18 will find ways too. Thank you for the video
Hello Delores you have a very good prospective in regards to watching these live cams! We should just take it day by day and enjoy what we see in these moments of plenty. It is comforting to know that we have all been down this road before with watching the sibling rivalry over the years. Fortunately it does not last too long and we will be able to enjoy the E's growing up and becoming those apex raptors that will one day soar the skies!
So glad he got to eat a big meal 🥰🥰🥰, thanks for sharing!
Good job Dad!! You’ll keep this baby strong as ever! ❤️
This is the first time from this stage and it's real hard to watch at times,I then realize this is the wild and I'm privileged just to be able to watch this,I have had to turn off at times but I'm so grateful for what you write.Thank you so much.
While the bully sleeps, E18 eats. 😊. I was so happy to see the full crop. Also, watching Harriet in the nest with each eaglet on an opposite side. These parents know what they’re doing.
Thank you for the clarification Ladyhwak. I was way too worried for E18. I even dreamt about the eaglets last night. Thank you for the great videos. ❤❤❤
M's patience with little E18 was amazing to watch. I was wondering if being fed at CROW would impact how they ate once back at the nest. Seems E18 got the hang of it afterall! Hopefully he continues to make it!! I'm rooting for him despite the protestations from his big sis
I felt the same way Sarah. So sweet to watch.
Didn’t take long for him to get the hang of it either did it?! And those crops!!
H&M truly are remarkable parents!
I am shocked at just how aggressive E17 is as well. This is only the second round of eaglets I've been able to watch and I dont remember it being this bad last year! With luck, H and M will do double feeding for E18, or hopefully E18 can keep away from his feisty sis! I cant watch the bonking! Haha
I think E18 just liked the mice feeding at CROW. Now it’s back to fish !! These 2 will be allright with their good parents providing all the time but nature is wise and that’s why they call it Mother Nature. Thanks 😊
They loved the mice feedings but fish is okay, second best.
@@birdlover6842 Definitely. And I was thinking Surf and Turf but I was being silly 🙃 I get very silly just looking at those 2. I love them 😍
It was so good to see them both so well fed today they can barely stand! Saw E18 get another good feeding a little while ago. Mom and dad are making up for lost time I think . I watched them earlier today peering out of the nest as if they were saying “ isn’t it great to be home” and dreaming of the day they will fly away.
Ya it's def been hard to watch since they returned to nest, but I was thrilled E18 finally got a nice big meal! I was concerned there for a min.
I don't know about everyone else but I have a very hard time with the sibling rivalry, so I always limit my viewing time. That is a normal.human emotion. However, mother nature is brutal and unforgiving. We just trust the eagles and move on.
Yep, E17 is just following instinct. And I know this is bad, but as a human I sometimes fantasize about thumping E17's little head while watching.
I agree.
As E18 gets older, he will learn how to get the food away from E17. Did you see him today starting to self feed on the rabbit?
Me, too. I slide over to the peaceful owlets & watch nice eaglet clips. I come back full steam on eagles when this phase has passed!!
Well said. Mother Nature can be a mother sometime. We all learn the hard way, mostly!
Is it just me or is he keeping one eye on his sister the whole time he’s eating...kind of afraid to eat lol...Poor little guy I’m rooting for him to get his confidence back 🧡🧡🧡
I'm sooooo glad babies are accepted by parents ... 😍🐣🐣
E18 is like E13 and E16 ❤️.He will survive and he will be the first one to fledge. E15 comes back to the nest again and again beacase she
was spoiled.
E 18 says" I am not eating your rotten fish dad, after all, I am special. I was feed filet mignon and fresh fish at the last hotel I went to and in a private bed, protected from that monster that is full there"!
Poor E18 is always tortured when E17 is awake...E18 immediately turned the head to play dead and had a rest after being fed, but E17 still attacked...
TY LH I have watched since they were taken and returned. Yes E17 is awful in every way. Almost doesn’t want E18 to eat. BUT... mom and dad are way too savvy for E17. And they finally get E18 to trust them and eat some wonderful food. All the while E17 is in a food coma. Mom and Dad are so skilled at raising a clutch of two! So happy to see E18 finally with a large crop. 😘❤️🦅 it will take time but I TTE and especially H and M! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
No worries - M15 and Harriet are fantastic parents, once they recovered from the shock of Both the Es reappearing in the nest, they were right back into their Super parents routine and they will make sure both Es get fed, if anything E18 looks normal while E17 looks to have overeaten a bit as the crop is as big as a basketball - given the history of the SWFL nest the Younger Eaglets actually do better than the Older ones - E3 and E5 both died, and E12 and E15 left the nest area much later than their younger siblings did - I think the younger ones learn the tricks of survival out of necessity quicker than the older ones - in any case none of them are 'Bullies' they are just Baby Eagles doing the best they can to survive in a world they don't understand - but the Es are fortunate to have the best Eagle Parents possible in H & M to teach them, so they will both be fine and grow into great adult Eagles. :)
Very well stated, indeed. You made me feel better, and that's really hard to do when it comes to this behaviour that is so very hard for me to watch. I just shut it down and move on and cry.
Thank you for writing this up lifting comment everything will go as it supposed to I guess the wild is a tough place to live 🦅🦅🦅🦅
Great comment - it’s the truth! LOVE Harriet & M15 ❤️❤️❤️ The sibling rivalry can be hard to watch but, it’s important for all to understand that no baby eagle is a ‘bully’. Like you said, they’re just learning. They’re so lucky to have such awesome parents! 🥰
bear force, that's one way of looking at it.
Ouu, thats so nice to see! Though I have to keep reminding myself that these are natural predators, and that the competitive behavior is just part of their nature.
Human feelings get the best of me sometimes.
Poor E18, he takes a lot of abuse. I'm so happy to see him get a good meal. M is the best dad ever!!!
These are experienced loving parents. Just barely 1 day back in the nest. Dad is patient and both mom and dad appear to be aware of the little bully! E18 whined until dad fed him. He definitely lets them know when he’s hungry. (And when his brother is not near. He’s a smart little guy) He looks strong and healthy. It is difficult to watch at times. Dominance is important for eagles to survive. Eagle friends, don’t be mad at CROW for putting them back in the nest when mom and dad were not there. These people are so knowledgeable and so experienced. They know many things that we don’t yet. I’m sure there are many factors that they had to think about. Timing seems like an important factor. Also, I’m glad they put them back before announcing it. Less people there less stress for them. 🤟🦅🦅🦅🦅
M15 is a good Dad. He would feed E16 separately also. I am confident that dad will continue to give E18 private feedings. One thing the eaglets learned at CROW is to sleep apart, which I have seen watching the live stream. It was sweet to see E18 go towards mom when Harriet returned to the nest.
It’s difficult to watch. A few years back, Spur was the younger at Eagle Country nest. NEVER had I seen such aggression as I did with Dandy bullying Spur. He even tried pushing Spur out of the nest multiple times. Spur hung on and became very sly. He just had to figure it out. If 18 can figure it out, he will thrive and fledge. Both at EC did so.
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E18 was afraid to eat even with 17 sleeping. 17 is absolutely viscous and if 18 even moves a little at any time 17 goes after him/her. I have been watching the days video. It is horrible. 18 is not even allowed to eat at all, even if 17 has gotten their fill, it doesn't allow 18 to eat.
E18 is not daft and I saw him looking out of the corner of his left eye as E17 had a go at him. He was probably chuckling to himself that it was too late E17, I already got my feed and I have better things to do than fight wirh you all day. That just weakens me anyway. Not going to fall for that anymore. . . . . . . . . One day. . . .just you wait and see. . .
Let's not forget the last 2 eaglets E16 and E15 were the same way. E16 became a very strong juvie, while E15 actually needed more time before she finally flew off on her own. E18 will become a stronger one when all is said and done.
感恩,E18 有吃到食物,謝謝老天
Thank you for that little lesson I know what these babies do growing up but on the FB some are getting not so nice about the bonking. Thank you
Dad must do a good conviction job to make E18 eat, poor little one, despite being hungry, is terrified on his brother!! But this time he managed to make a nice harvest!! 🦅🐟🐥😋 ♥️
Every year it’s always the same comments about how the sibling aggression is worst this year than ever before or that the youngest will starve to death.
Obviously nature is nature and whatever happens happens but...at this nest all younger eaglets have lived and fledged successfully under Harriet and M15’s care. They get private feedings or duo-feedings and eventually they learn how to eat with their older sibling but maneuvering to a place where they can’t get bonked.
So have faith people. It’s sad to watch now, but eventually the younger eaglet will thrive.
i recall last year how tricky & sneaky & good e16 got at sneaking in to get fed & avoid e15 ~ i will bet that e16 has done better on his own
E15 was the also dominant but E17 is worser
Lucienne - I can't find a bonking video anymore but E7 was the worst (in my opinion). Also E8 (its younger sibling) - had fishing line tightly around his leg - thankfully C R.O.W. helped him.
Then E8 was attacked on the ground by an owl - broken femur and something else. Made a full recovery, was gone 3 months and H+M accepted him right away. - Stephanie
Love you
Papa excellent ❤️❤️❤️
M15 is amazing. E18 will get there, Having been in care for a week, E18 is a little behind perfecting his techniques to get plenty of food. We saw this with E13, E16 and Romy amongst others. Until then, Harriet & M15 have got this. Love this family!
Ahhh, yes. The daily reminder I needed, thanks to another commentator. We must not apply human characteristics and behaviors to animals.
It's hard to watch, not sure if I can any longer. E17 is vicious even when not hungry. I think E18 is suffering horribly. So sad.
E18 gets a " private feeding" and then, at the end of the video, the usually sibling "beat down!"
I really hope E17 don't kill the baby cuz it's very aggressive. I love yo watch buy it hurts me... But Still love to watch maybe one day I will take your advise and take a break if E17 don't come down a bit.
Thanks
I couldn't watch for a long time today, I felt so worried. I'm glad to see the eaglet finally got to eat. I keep waiting for it to just peck the heck out of the other one! Gosh it's brutal to watch!
Daddy it’s the best I hope one of the baby get strong and nothing happen to the beautiful baby 🙏🙏♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️🦅🦅
E17 has 18 trained. 18 won't start eating till they know absolutely they won't get bonked. Happened on late feed too tonight. But 18 went to sleep stuffed.
Happy they are home!
LH, It's nice to see big crops on the babes again
Did you see how E18 waited for M to eat some before he take his food! Such a good child!
🌸🌿❄️🦅💚💚 E18 loves his Parents! For sure Dad! So the other day, when mom tried to feed E18 and Didn’t succeed was he wanted her to eat first!!! ♥️♥️♥️😭😭😭such warm heart E18 has!!!
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E17’s crop is twice bigger than E18’s. No wonder E17 is much heavier. With plenty food supplies 1/3 of food can still raise the little one. Kudos to the parents for working so hard to provide.
17 is probably a female. They are naturally bigger. The size difference between these 2 is natural.
This will make E18 a strong eagle. I have raised several animals that were the weaker of the litter when young and all have grown to be strong and dominant survivors when adults.
Let's all just keep this eagle family in our prayers and hope everything works out that's all we can do 😉 stay safe everyone 🦅🦅🦅
CROW really should've let Harriet bum the Timeout Towel of Terrible Behavior.
Lol I know right 🤣🤣🤣🤣☺☺☺🦅🦅🦅
LOL!! I love your name for the towel!!! I wish they had put it in the nest and gently plonked E17 in it, just for the duration of sibling dominance!! lol.
What does that mean?
@@bartmadness830 For a week, the eaglets were at a rehab facility called CROW to clear-up an eye infection. While there, the carers would stick E17 on his/her own little towel when the bonking would start. Google it... lots of pics and vids from their stay.
Lol❤️🦅
Face planting right into a food coma! Ahhhhh, it's good to be home!
Survival of the fitness I guess, that one has to play dead just to survive. Behaviour study!
fittest. sorry
So glad E18 warmed up to M and got a nice meal.
Mama an daddy stuffed E18 full tonight after 17 went to sleep🥰
I hope E 17 survive. I cannot watch it. He´s scared to dead,
You mean 18, and he's doing pretty good considering.
Ahhhh! Home with mom and dad. Dad lives me with private feeding. He knows E17 is mean. Bet she has moms foot
Espero no la dañe y quite las fuerzas, hoy tuve sensaciones encontradas 😥🤨. Espero pueda E18 salir adelante día a día 😍🐥🐥😍
Hola, creo que E18 estará bien. ¡Recuerde que Harriet y M15 son excelentes padres y proveedores y se asegurarán de que E18 se alimente todos los días de alguna manera! ¡Gracias por ver!
🙏🙏🙏👍🐥🐥🦅🦅❤❤❤наконец- то и слабенький начал кушать! Урааа!!!
First time unable to watch two healthy babies & one might not make it..😞
Hang in there Bette! E18 got two more feedings from Dad after this one and went to sleep with a full crop! One day at a time right? ♥♥ He is so much better today than he did yesterday bless his heart. Although he might lose more of his downy feathers in the near future. What a warrior E18 is!!
@@ladyhawk👍🏻 🦅♥️🦅
@@ladyhawk wOw..never thought this would affect me this much.breaks my heart to see E18 so afraid to even eat..just caught glimpses of the live cam...thanks for understanding...😣
@@ladyhawk viewing, like you said one day at a time...hopefully bonking stage will pass quickly & will resume watching full time and enjoy this privileged 'gift' of seeing our beautiful eagle family in it's entirety !!! 💖🦅🦅🦅🦅💖🤗💕💕
that's great. let e18 get up to equal bonking weight as e17. lol
What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger. I do think this will apply to E18.
Thank you LH. :-) -Hugs
I am totally convinced that E18 will survive this ordeal. As he grows and puts on the Weight and he can then move about the nest independently then E17 will gradually lose power over him as did E15 did lose power over E16. And with Dads help and knowledge of the situation E18 will succeed. Ofcourse, Harriet is there too. But Dad is a special kind of Guy. He is also very playful and has a lot of patience too, which he showed with Bossy boots E15. He must have been laughing at all her antics. Saying to himself, She just needs time and patience and she will go off all by herself on her journey. And She/E15 did just that one day. While we were all panicking and thinking E15 was going to eat them out of house and home.
This next Episode we are going to witness may be something similar. But Harriet and M15 are determined to bring up TWO Eagle chicks and Not One and a half Eagle chicks. Of that purpose I am confident in them both.
M15是了不起負責任細心的愛護孩子的爸爸,敬佩M15愛你唷!
Super film Pozdrawiam cieplutko👍👍👍👍
Typical two eaglet nest. E17 had a huge crop at breakfast. E18 had a huge crop at lunch. Both have huge crops throughout the afternoon. Both healthy, strong eaglets. E18 might miss being a prince in his striped towel kingdom, but now back to reality and the skills both eaglets are learning will help them immensely when they leave the family home and have to survive on their own. Last season E15 and E16 had their rumbles at the pond even though both were well fed. Better to wrestle with family before having to compete with all the other juvies out there. They will have to steal and/or kill almost every day of their lives. So much for cute and cuddly 😂
in my opinion E18 will not survive because E17 does not give him Pace he attacks him all the time, I pray for him that he can do it 🙏
E17 has to bite back. It's the only way to stop a bully. Glad to see he is getting a full crop so he will at least have some energy. Just needs the courage to put 17 in her place.
Disagree completely. Everyone said the same about E16 last year. It's always this way, kind of like big brother little brother. Harriett and M know what they are doing. Trust them.
I agree with you, must react 💪🏼 come on little eagle
Same thing happened with Jules and Romy. (NEFL) but Romy figured it out and would hide behind the Parents’ legs and grab the food. He was quick. He went on to successfully fledge as did Jules.
@@Teremei Best stay put and wait to be fed, there's no shortage of food at this nest. Later, he'll also learn to steal, which is very useful for his future life. E17's agressiveness is good omen for his/her future life, but E18 will also learn from his position.
It is good to see they are not bonking.
I doubt that E17 has a bald spot. Think they're at the stage of having down feather making an appearance along with some pin feathers.
If E18 can survive the attacks I think he’ll be okay with all the food they provide
Love Dad.