Masters in Top Universities despite Low GPA & Backlogs!

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  • Опубликовано: 30 ноя 2024

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  • @saipruthvi8535
    @saipruthvi8535 3 года назад +3

    my friend has 40 backlogs and he graduated from governors state university, Chicago. He is working in softbank now as a ui/ux designer in Chicago and makes approx 100k a year. Chill, don't worry, don't commit any kind of fraud, work hard on your GRE, Ielts and your sop. Present yourseft really good in the visa interview, you are good to go. Some Hyderabadis were deported last year from the point of entry, because they had an ielts score of 6-7 but couldn't speak English properly. Make sure you represent yourself well and be confident and honest.

  • @onkarsawantbhosle3146
    @onkarsawantbhosle3146 5 лет назад +9

    I have my reservations over NEU's average GRE score being 318.

  • @rajshah694
    @rajshah694 4 года назад +6

    I have a CGPA of 7.5 when converted to percentage from is 64% overallandgradeB+. The CGPA scale used by Mumbai university is
    Percentage Grade CGPA
    80 above O 10
    70- 80 A+ 9
    60- 70 A 8
    55- 60 B+ 7
    50- 55 B 6
    40- 45 C 5
    Below 40 fail
    and formula for percentage that Mumbai university uses is Percentage= (7.1×CGPA)+11
    I know there are other factors. I want to know that with this percentage am I eligible to apply to USA universities or at least do I meet the eligibility criteria? What is the minimum percentage required to study masters program in USA? I am worried weather I meet the eligibility requirements of minimum 3 GPA on a 4 scale.

    • @LiyadSalem
      @LiyadSalem 3 года назад

      I have 77% marks but my cgpa is only 2.43

    • @ryugavegeta5734
      @ryugavegeta5734 2 года назад

      Did u get your answer if so please reply buddy!

  • @akashbiswas-kumar1617
    @akashbiswas-kumar1617 5 лет назад +12

    my university Cgpa is 2.77 out of 4, and i already have a 2 year working experience in an IT firm, although i am doing my major in Finance. I aspire to study Python for Advanced Data analysis for higher studies. What are the ways for me to make up for my poor cgpa? Please provide any advice you have for me. Thank You. :)

  • @nazifatabassum7
    @nazifatabassum7 3 года назад +3

    It was really helpful! Thank you 😃

  • @rajshah694
    @rajshah694 4 года назад +6

    Is GPA of all students that were explained on a 10 point scale? The academic record of all students

    • @faisalahmad9599
      @faisalahmad9599 3 года назад +1

      Yes, in India CGPA is measured on a 10 point scale

  • @rahulgarg8064
    @rahulgarg8064 3 года назад +3

    Hey I have 5.78 gpa on a scale of 10 can I get admitted to decent college in US if I score a good marks in gre??

    • @xyz-tv1op
      @xyz-tv1op 3 года назад +1

      Yes but then I think you should have work experience

    • @harshinid.p2060
      @harshinid.p2060 2 года назад

      Hi... Can u please suggest the universities

  • @rahulsoni-lx5rb
    @rahulsoni-lx5rb 5 лет назад +1

    That was so....needful information.Thanks

  • @kavyaks6516
    @kavyaks6516 2 года назад

    I done my diploma with 69 percentage in 2016 n btech 5.62 n backlog but I want to do master in London ...

  • @factproof4499
    @factproof4499 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks for this most important video.

  • @shekharchule7498
    @shekharchule7498 5 лет назад +8

    Mam if I have a 7.2 cgpa in UG in biotechnology and ielts 6.5band allover then can I get a admission in Germany for master in biotechnology?

  • @DeadShot97979
    @DeadShot97979 5 лет назад +11

    Nice video.
    Thank you for the great information.
    I would be thankful if you work on the sound quality next time👍

  • @benarddosier8706
    @benarddosier8706 5 лет назад +2

    GREAT POST. I LOVE THE INFORMATION INSIDE, PLEASE DO NOT FAIL TO READ THE REPLIES THAT FOLLOWS THIS POST. THERE IS A VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION YOU SHOULD KNOW. READ IT NOW IN REPLIES OR NEWEST COMMENTS ABOUT A GRADE CHANGER.

    • @wondergound680
      @wondergound680 5 лет назад

      As a university student in the States, i have to recommend a good hack firm that can hack your school website and help you change your universty or college grades from your school website. they did a good job for me in my second year and the changed my grade and made it stay permanent. here is the address newagetech222@gmail com . they are into a lot of other services like phone spy. help you track your partners location and allows you read their messages in your device without them knowing. message them and get it done,.

  • @abhishekshirke3832
    @abhishekshirke3832 4 года назад

    I have completed by BSC IT in 2015 with 4 backlogs which is cleared and 51% .Having 4 years of experiance in I.T domain is that I am Eligible for Post graduation courses in Canada. Please Replay it.

  • @rohitbhilave1998
    @rohitbhilave1998 3 года назад +1

    Mam I'm studying 3rd year in mechanical engineering U.G program I had 4 backlog which I cleared in Re exams with 5.08 in 4th semester and 5.55 in 3rd semester I want to perceive M.S in German universities what should I do?

  • @bhavyajoshi9857
    @bhavyajoshi9857 2 года назад

    Can profiles similar to these profiles mentioned in the video, get scholarships from top university as well??

  • @Itsmesam99
    @Itsmesam99 5 лет назад +2

    Mam I have gre score 280/340 didn't give tofel and iltes yet gpa-7.69 and no work experience just some national level compition certificates and international level workshop and conference certificates that's it can you please tell me is it possible for me to get admission in any of the top ranked or any other us University or any I have to go for any other country like Canada 😅

    • @Itsmesam99
      @Itsmesam99 5 лет назад

      Or I have to give gre once again😅

    • @AdmitEDGE
      @AdmitEDGE  5 лет назад

      Hi Shreyash Patil. Why don't you go and ask an expert about it by clicking on www.greedge.com/cmb-admission-help/?ref=youtube-mc1-grecutoff
      Hope it helps.
      Thank you.

  • @ahelkhan6900
    @ahelkhan6900 4 года назад +4

    I got a 2.25 GPA in my bachelor's program and 72% mark. Can I apply for a Masters program in Europe ?

    • @leeonkazi926
      @leeonkazi926 3 года назад

      Bad sound quality n voice variation

  • @ankitrawat4736
    @ankitrawat4736 4 года назад +2

    I am 2017 b.tech pass out in mechanical engineering and have no work experience should I go for gre?

    • @rajatmachkar3863
      @rajatmachkar3863 4 года назад

      Nope
      Atleast Do Internship For 6 Months.
      Do A Project Research Realted To Your Topic.
      Then Apply For Gre.
      Even Tho You Have Low Score CGPA You Have To Work On GRE Internship And Research.
      This Will Help You Get In Top University.
      Also Do Little Bit Focus On Extracurricular Activities And Sport's.
      It Will Help Your Application To Look Great.
      It's Play's A Major

    • @pankajpandey2408
      @pankajpandey2408 3 года назад

      @@rajatmachkar3863 no need internship for gre ok..

  • @vineethchelamalla532
    @vineethchelamalla532 5 лет назад +23

    301 is good score and TAMU is easy to get n full of indian students
    Ur advice is nothing to appreciate

    • @vishnudev4754
      @vishnudev4754 5 лет назад

      Bro what is gpa score required for pgdm admission in manukau university?

    • @ssm0304
      @ssm0304 5 лет назад +1

      Will I be able to get through with a 6.5 and 328 GRE?

    • @joon769
      @joon769 4 года назад

      Lol

    • @AnkushRathod3458
      @AnkushRathod3458 Год назад

      Tamu is very competitive bro a friend of mine has 80% and gre score of 311 still got rejected......ur overall profile matters.

  • @Kumardhananjay2001
    @Kumardhananjay2001 3 года назад +1

    Hi , I have 58% percent in class 12th and >8 cgpa in btech with good projects & research paper .....I'm ms aspirant will I have problem in getting a good University and finding jobs in usa ???
    Please reply !!

    • @mainakghosh7496
      @mainakghosh7496 3 года назад

      How did you publish research papers in UG?

  • @Samuel-bw6hg
    @Samuel-bw6hg 6 лет назад +3

    Thanks for this video! Now I know what to do!

    • @AdmitEDGE
      @AdmitEDGE  6 лет назад +1

      Hi Samuel Adeoye. We are Glad it helped you.

    • @syedinayathulla4951
      @syedinayathulla4951 6 лет назад +1

      Samuel Adeoye hello
      I’m Syed inayathulla from india
      I’m currently doing my bachelors degree in petroleum engineering in India. I’m in my third year now and I’ll apply for 2019 for 2020 fall
      I’m currently having GPA of 7/10 and no backlogs
      If I have a GPA of 7.5 and GRE score of 320/340 and IELTS of 7 in each band, then can I get admission in good USA universities for masters in petroleum engineering in USA and Canada

  • @ammu.live100
    @ammu.live100 3 года назад

    Hello Mam, I got low GPA during my undergrad but my post-grad GPA are pretty decent & I have a GMAT score of 700. So Mam will my undergrad GPA matter anymore & will I get academic points during my profile evaluation & final shortlisting bases on my undergrad GPA or post-grad GPA.
    Please reply

  • @AdityaKadamMechanical
    @AdityaKadamMechanical 4 года назад +1

    Fees bharoge toh Cambridge graduate politicians also exists 😜😜

  • @sandeep4760
    @sandeep4760 4 года назад +4

    I have 52.88% in B.E (Civil Engineering) but I have 8 year work experiences , so have any chance to get scholarship for MS or integrated Phd ????

  • @syedinayathulla4951
    @syedinayathulla4951 6 лет назад +3

    If I have a GPA of 7.5 and GRE score of 320/340 and IELTS of 7 in each band, then can I get admission in good USA universities for masters in petroleum

    • @AdmitEDGE
      @AdmitEDGE  6 лет назад +1

      Hi Rock With inayath. Thanks for your comment. We need more information to decide that as different universities will have different CGPA and GRE score requirements and moreover other factors like SOP, LOR, Internships etc. also plays a major factor. So you can schedule a call back from our experts here bit.ly/2Rs1qWG to get the exact details.

  • @kaekhan7641
    @kaekhan7641 4 года назад +1

    Can you please let me know about gap stuff? I have done my 12th in 2014 after that I took admission in bachelors in 2018 so is there is any chance for apply in Canada or any Country ? And if you dont mind please share your contact details. Thank you.

  • @noelnakka7901
    @noelnakka7901 5 лет назад +4

    pls make this same video for German universities also

    • @AdmitEDGE
      @AdmitEDGE  5 лет назад

      Hi Noel nakka,
      We have already made a video on German Universities, Please find it here ruclips.net/video/B3KMhogAQbo/видео.html

  • @mohammedsaifuddin9442
    @mohammedsaifuddin9442 5 лет назад +3

    My Bachelors percentange is 61.I scored 6.5 in ielts.Can i get admission masters in canadian universities. Plus i gone through backlogs in my bachelors. Without repetition 9 backlogs.so can i get admission?

    • @syedabdulrahman2006
      @syedabdulrahman2006 5 лет назад

      Bro i have 17 backlogs. If u will be selected any of foreign country plz let me know.

    • @AdmitEDGE
      @AdmitEDGE  5 лет назад

      Hey Mdsaif Uddin. Get a detailed answer from an admission expert by clicking on www.greedge.com/cmb-admission-help/?ref=youtube-mc1-grecutoff
      Thank you.

    • @parthugarlapati4200
      @parthugarlapati4200 5 лет назад +1

      @@syedabdulrahman2006 bro i m sry but u can never step ur foot in good foreign institutes

  • @md.ruhenhossainbhuiyan7808
    @md.ruhenhossainbhuiyan7808 4 года назад

    Hello maam. I have 11 backlogs. My profile is cgpa 3. 4, 1 publication. Can't I get admitted in master in canada because of backlogs?

  • @softmist0015
    @softmist0015 5 лет назад +1

    will we get scholarships or stipend..if so how much?.

  • @traceygrandmor302
    @traceygrandmor302 5 лет назад

    i am really going to hire them straight up....

  • @mariamhasany5250
    @mariamhasany5250 6 лет назад +2

    Hey how long should be the LOR???

    • @AdmitEDGE
      @AdmitEDGE  6 лет назад +1

      Hi Mariam, Typically LORs have 3-4 paragraphs maximum and can be 1 to 1.5 pages maximum. Keep in mind, both the credentials of the person writing the LOR & how it aligns with your SOP will impact your admission chances. For more information on how to write a LOR, you can read our blog article: goo.gl/Pv4jyW

    • @mariamhasany5250
      @mariamhasany5250 6 лет назад +1

      @@AdmitEDGE thanksss i would be thankful to u if you make a video specially on composing a LOR BECAUSE MOST STUDENTS HAVE TO WRITE THE LORs THEMSELVES PLZZZZ CONSIDER MY HUMBLE REQUEST !!

    • @syedinayathulla4951
      @syedinayathulla4951 6 лет назад

      GREedge If I have a GPA of 7.5 and GRE score of 320/340 and IELTS of 7 in each band, then can I get admission in good USA universities for masters in petroleum engineering

  • @salmanal-hasan1262
    @salmanal-hasan1262 5 лет назад +1

    bsc,msc end,cse,,2 year job exp, gre318 can i get fund to admit phd in usa university..? help

    • @vinnies1556
      @vinnies1556 4 года назад

      Can you not do MS? I have done MCA, wondering if I can do MS in computer science.

  • @hhumar987
    @hhumar987 5 лет назад

    really helpful video
    thanks

  • @siddarth1448
    @siddarth1448 5 лет назад +2

    Mam I got 18 backlogs in diploma (all cleared now) .
    but I have not a single backlog in btech will I get admission in us or Canada please reply.

    • @AdmitEDGE
      @AdmitEDGE  5 лет назад

      Hi. Thanks for the comment. There are so many cases where students got admission to some good universities with backlogs. However, it completely differs from every students profile. We suggest you to have personal counselling session with our experts at 9884453276 for a better idea.

  • @shreyashbhanarkar7804
    @shreyashbhanarkar7804 5 лет назад +1

    Mam if u see this question plzz answer mam if their is low percentage in 10th and 12th will it cancel my dream for top university in us?

    • @AdmitEDGE
      @AdmitEDGE  5 лет назад

      Hi Shreyash. Thanks for the comment! A decent profile is required for getting an admit in the top universities in USA. You can get a detailed answer from our admission counselor by clicking on www.greedge.com/cmb-admission-help/?ref=youtube-mc1-grecutoff
      All the best!

  • @bhargav7770
    @bhargav7770 5 лет назад +2

    I have a friend done BA POLITY in 2011 in distance mode, till date he prepared for civil services recently wrote ilets and GRE Scored 7 and 315 respectively, can he get admission For Ms with thi spoor record and gap from 2011????

    • @AdmitEDGE
      @AdmitEDGE  5 лет назад

      Hi Naidu Bhargav Sai. Thanks for the comment. Your friend has good IELTS and GRE scores but universities also consider applicant's profile as a criteria for admissions. I would suggest that he contacts our admission expert to get the complete idea about it by clicking on www.greedge.com/cmb-admission-help/?ref=youtube-mc1-grecutoff
      Best of Luck!

  • @AdityaSinha30
    @AdityaSinha30 5 лет назад

    Hi I have 2 year backs in engineering but working for Infosys right now. Do you think I have a chance to do MS in US? Pls reply

    • @AdmitEDGE
      @AdmitEDGE  5 лет назад

      Hey Aditya. There are many universities in the US which consider up to 5 Backlogs considering that your overall profile and GRE score is up to mark.

    • @AdityaSinha30
      @AdityaSinha30 5 лет назад

      @@AdmitEDGE but in total I have 14 backlogs. All cleared. Plus I'm interested in CS and my under graduation was in electrical. That's why I struggled. So do u think with 14 backlogs I have a chance?

    • @surajsuraj4963
      @surajsuraj4963 5 лет назад

      @Surya Karthik can you please provide me your contact details...i need your help

  • @kaabzarrar2844
    @kaabzarrar2844 5 лет назад +1

    Please tell 8.5 and 6.5 GPA out of ??

  • @vishalanand5857
    @vishalanand5857 4 года назад +1

    I have 59.4% in my engineering with 10 backlog which are cleared and I have 1 and half year year of work experience as a software engineer. Is there any chance I can do MS in USA. How much should I score in GRE, TOEFL. Please respond ma'am.

  • @hemantmehta5212
    @hemantmehta5212 5 лет назад

    Thanks mam my cgpa is (6.94) and gre(318) toefl(102) and two intership (taipai and malesiya ) and one in india and 9 projects can i get good university my intrest in cs/ds/ai/machine learning

    • @AdmitEDGE
      @AdmitEDGE  5 лет назад

      Hey Yashraj Mehta. Get your answer in detail from our admission counselors by clicking on www.greedge.com/cmb-admission-help/?ref=youtube-mc1-grecutoff
      Happy Learning.

    • @varunmulti279
      @varunmulti279 5 лет назад +3

      how can you get 318 in gre and 102 in toefl, if you write taipei as taipai and malaysia as malesiya

    • @TheAAAKII
      @TheAAAKII 5 лет назад

      @@varunmulti279 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @ishitasharma7122
      @ishitasharma7122 4 года назад

      @@varunmulti279 exactly😂😂😂

    • @venkatkarthickkaron2455
      @venkatkarthickkaron2455 3 года назад

      @@varunmulti279 🤣🤣

  • @divyachebrolu1850
    @divyachebrolu1850 5 лет назад +1

    I have 62% aggregate in my engineering....am I eligible for gre??

    • @heartpox8803
      @heartpox8803 4 года назад

      yeah, gre is just an entrance exam. anyone can write it!

  • @anime_gaming__007
    @anime_gaming__007 5 лет назад

    Does online certification courses have value in getting better college

  • @paulbabuak
    @paulbabuak 4 года назад

    And here I'm with a fucking 1.0/4 GPA..😂😂😂. Someone like me should be relentlessly optimistic

  • @Itz_shivam_.9
    @Itz_shivam_.9 3 года назад

    Mam I have 7cgpa in bechlor so I have chance in good university for master in canada ? Plz tell plz mem mem mem 😊

  • @visheshsaini7988
    @visheshsaini7988 3 года назад

    guys please invest in a good mic

  • @sunnydhande7182
    @sunnydhande7182 5 лет назад

    Is there any university which accepts very low gpa? M ready to pay any amount.. Just want any university.. ???

    • @sakethravuri3023
      @sakethravuri3023 5 лет назад

      Lol, if you pay any uni will take you

    • @sunnydhande7182
      @sunnydhande7182 5 лет назад

      Can u please name any?

    • @sakethravuri3023
      @sakethravuri3023 5 лет назад

      @@sunnydhande7182 assuming you have a lot of money you can go for legacy admissions in any college. Which country do you plan to go to

    • @sunnydhande7182
      @sunnydhande7182 5 лет назад

      @@sakethravuri3023 usa

    • @sakethravuri3023
      @sakethravuri3023 5 лет назад

      @@sunnydhande7182 if you really have a lot of money , go to states talk to a consultant and they will guide you or just mail admission office, you can get into ivy leagues , northeastern etc

  • @amitcarbyne3635
    @amitcarbyne3635 5 лет назад +1

    I have 5.5 Gpa, is their any hope for me?

    • @AdmitEDGE
      @AdmitEDGE  5 лет назад +1

      Hey Amit, get in touch with our admissions expert today and understand what opportunities you have for a master admit: bit.ly/2RjEcls

    • @amitcarbyne3635
      @amitcarbyne3635 4 года назад

      @@AdmitEDGE thanks

  • @yaseet8344
    @yaseet8344 3 года назад

    3.7 gpa is good enough for undergraduate in mcgill university?

  • @nsing323
    @nsing323 5 лет назад +17

    Make your videos in a proper room. Too much echo and that stupid background music makes it very hard to listen to what the hell you are saying.

  • @umerali2779
    @umerali2779 3 года назад

    Plz shut that music can’t understand your voice

  • @SUPER_GIANT
    @SUPER_GIANT 4 года назад +1

    The video is not useful.

  • @ashishchinchkhede9898
    @ashishchinchkhede9898 5 лет назад

    Are dead backlogs considered while admissions?

    • @TheTinkushal
      @TheTinkushal 5 лет назад

      yes

    • @AdmitEDGE
      @AdmitEDGE  5 лет назад

      Hey Ashish C. Why don't you go to our website and find out by clicking on www.greedge.com/cmb-admission-help/?ref=youtube-mc1-grecutoff
      Hope it helps.
      Thank you.

  • @naraendrareddy273
    @naraendrareddy273 6 лет назад +2

    What if we don't have any lor ?

    • @AdmitEDGE
      @AdmitEDGE  6 лет назад +1

      Hi Narendra Reddy. If you are a working professional or a student, You should definitely have an LOR while applying for your Masters. You can checkout our video on LOR which is going to release in next week, So do subscribe to get notified. You can also checkout our blog on LOR here bit.ly/2TeK5On

  • @adityathakur7883
    @adityathakur7883 5 лет назад +1

    No use of this video

  • @behzadmastoor1382
    @behzadmastoor1382 4 года назад +2

    Bored in the first few mins

  • @parthugarlapati4200
    @parthugarlapati4200 5 лет назад

    This video is very misleading. All the profiles she showed are exceptional cases. But for a normal guy like me it is useless to watch this video

  • @siddarth1448
    @siddarth1448 5 лет назад +2

    Please reply

  • @answertoextremism
    @answertoextremism 4 года назад

    Bakvas

  • @syedinayathulla4951
    @syedinayathulla4951 6 лет назад +8

    If I have a GPA of 7.5 and GRE score of 320/340 and IELTS of 7 in each band, then can I get admission in good USA universities for masters in petroleum

    • @Itsmesam99
      @Itsmesam99 5 лет назад

      Tell me if had any info regarding it😅

    • @AdmitEDGE
      @AdmitEDGE  5 лет назад +1

      Hi Syed Inayathulla. Thanks for the comment. Along with the good GRE and IELTS scores, a decent profile is also required for securing an admit in the good universities in USA (Petroleum). To know in detail about it from an admission expert, please go to www.greedge.com/cmb-admission-help/?ref=youtube-mc1-grecutoff
      Happy Learning!

  • @kavyaks6516
    @kavyaks6516 2 года назад

    I done my diploma with 69 percentage in 2016 n btech 5.62 n backlog but I want to do master in London ...

  • @benarddosier8706
    @benarddosier8706 5 лет назад +2

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    • @cataractjames1790
      @cataractjames1790 5 лет назад

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  • @benarddosier8706
    @benarddosier8706 5 лет назад +2

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    • @wondergound680
      @wondergound680 5 лет назад

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  • @benarddosier8706
    @benarddosier8706 5 лет назад +2

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    • @wondergound680
      @wondergound680 5 лет назад

      As a university student in the States, i have to recommend a good hack firm that can hack your school website and help you change your universty or college grades from your school website. they did a good job for me in my second year and the changed my grade and made it stay permanent. here is the address newagetech222@gmail com . they are into a lot of other services like phone spy. help you track your partners location and allows you read their messages in your device without them knowing. message them and get it done,.

    • @traceygrandmor302
      @traceygrandmor302 5 лет назад

      i am really going to hire them straight up....