When someone says "Please, don't call an ambulance!" and tries to leave the scene with a broken leg because they would rather let it heal incorrectly than lose their life savings you should realise that the politicians who tell you that you live in the greatest country in the world just might be lying to you.
David Tucker Yes it dose happen in America I’m an example of that because I had a car accident on November 15 2018 I was hit so hard I cracked my skull on the steering wheel messed up my arm, had a really bad concussion lost all of my hearing for a few weeks, couldn’t see clearly, and couldn’t even walk. I went in a ambulance to the ER and I got a bill for 700$ luckily my insurance paid the rest of the out of the 2.5 k I would’ve gotten hit with. I was a college student working a part time security job making just enough to pay my school and other bills. I soon after lost my job cause I couldn’t work and I had to ask my parents for money just so I wouldn’t go into debt because of unpaid medical bills, between the cost of the ambulance, physical therapy and all of my medications there was no way I could’ve paid for it.This system is atrocious for the vast majority of people in this country we need to find better solutions for this issue.
@David Tucker *"No one is entitled to a free ride"* Why then are unemployed Americans entitled to free police protection? Free fire protection? Free defence by the military? Free access to libraries? Free upkeep of the sidewalks they use? After all if they don't pay taxes they aren't contributing to any of these. Or better yet - let's shorten this to a single question - why is healthcare the odd one out in a nation where almost everything else has been socialised?
@David Tucker Just because someone is poverty-stricken does not mean they are more likely to steal... The circumstances that they are put through since childbirth and so many other factors go into effect when talking about people less fortunate then you are, and that doesn't even mean they are less hardworking than you... Here in Canada, we have universal healthcare and it helps everyone out when someone gets hurt. You sound really closed-minded and your not taking into consideration all the factors at play when you speak clearly so have fun with a close-minded outlook on life you sheep.
@@jamiemidge4983 hahaaa send me your IBAN code then lol. (p.s: Actually I paid for it, I am an EU citizen -where I pay my taxes including a yearly tax for health care card-, I lived in the US for couple of months where I had a private insurance for which I paid around 300$ per month yet, it didn't cover my issue. Hence, it turned out to be cheaper for me to go back to Europe for hospitalisation, then fly back to the US. Sad but true)
@@dansattah I should know, I'm european. However declaring something as a right means that someone has to be forced to provide that for you. So I hope you see the problem with that, you are not entitled to someone elses' labour.
mentaljedi maybe if they stopped putting so much money into military and police and spent it on education and healthcare we could be a better population.. maybe starting with the food.. so much sugar, sodium, fat, oils... this is why the obesity rate is so high here- also smaller portions
I‘m from Austria and I got in an Emergency my Appendix removed, Ambulance ride and all! Had to stay 4 days in Hospital bed! Only paid 53 € for my 4-day stay and that was it!
Just get an international travel health insurance policy, they're not expensive. Example: 40 year old male from UK visiting US for 2 weeks, policy for up to $1,000,000 with $0 deductible, $1,000,000 for medical evacuation back home if needed. Everyone is eligible. Cost - $84.00
John Montgomery Insurance aside, the experience of US healthcare is a miserable one. I was taken ill in New York. Fully insured. But treated like a criminal and waited hours to be basically abused by a doctor.
When Corona gained traction, European universities told students abroad in America to return their respected countries in Europe because the health care in America wasn't sufficient. They compared it to 3rd world standards D:
@@bounty1402 Exactly... If you are looking for the best of the best doctors I am pretty sure that more than half of them live in the US (doesn't mean that there are bad ones in Europe... Just not the best)... I'd still choose the European system whatsoever, because they are kilometers (just a little sidepunch) ahead.
In pharmacies and hospital in France, almost everything on prescription is free and if not, you don't have to pay anything either because the pharmacist/the hospital will contact your insurance itself to get paid back. The only thing we pay is the 25 euros appointment with the doctor on which the healthcare system pays back later 16.5 euros and your health insurance pays back the rest.
Marie Bambelle You know what, Americans usually say “There’s no free lunch” 😏 Your healthcare is free because you’ve already paid for it through tax. Nothing is free
Antonietta Bombardelli a lot Americans own guns. If we outlaw them it will just send more people to prison. Also protection. Disarming the working class is also bad.
In total he spent $122 rounded up, for convience, for an ER trip, two evalutions, 3 prescriptions, and an X-ray. You'd be looking at 1,000-$5,000 grand in the USA.
Why are people not protesting in the streets? They start protests for the smallest things but not for healthcare. I don't understand that.. now with bernie out of the race nothing will change while healthcare has become 40% more expensive in the last decade the US.
@@mentos93 Because older Americans have been thought that a socialist system which include health care is communism. after amercia so called won the cold war. which they didnt. they claimed that a socialist system is communism. and that have been drilled in the heads of the older Americans. so they dont want a socialist system they think the word socilist is a dirty word. so they are happy to pay thousands upon thousands of dollars for something simple. they dont mind to get bankrupt or kicked out of their house because they cant pay a medical bill. medical bills in america are among the highest debt rates in the country. so in other words they are brainwashed by their own government. and nobody have questioned it.
I went to ONE trip to the ER and after my insurance paid their portion I still owed almost $2K...I’d like to be accepted as a European citizen please lol
I am from Norway. I married a California girl and have been living in California for the last 5 years. I pay a little bit less tax here than in Norway but in Norway I would have 1st class healthcare, retirement, free university education for my kids, unemployment benefits, disability insurance and more included in my taxes. The retirement I would receive would be enough for a good standard of living, where I can travel the world for several months a year. Like my retired parents are doing now even though they probably made less through life than average of their generation. Me and my wife make more than average Californians but if we add health insurance cost to our tax we are already worse off then what we would pay in tax in Norway and the only thing we receives back is a terrible system of copays, deductible, not covered, in network and so fort. The European system is far better. Generally laws are made to protect the consumer, the normal guy on the street and not big money and corporations. I would pay my Norwegian tax with a smile on my face compared to this. This is why Scandinavia over multiple years have been ranked the best countries to live in with the happiest people. And yes it is a big difference.
@@kurtoskarson6778 Just an excuse to stay. We claim how much better someplace else is, but we just can't go there, yet. Obviously, where you are provides for you better then there. That's the real reason you're staying.
California + no national healthcare = current taxes of Cali Norway + National Healthcare = slightly higher taxes than Cali California + national healthcare = Taxes far higher than Norway The government of Norway has far lower expenses than the government of US.
All you need to know: 1. Every industrial nation except USA has universal healthcare with heavy government regulation or fully socialized. 2. None of these nations want to get rid of the system. All have minor problems but the general populations don’t want to get rid of it. 3. In America most people hate the healthcare system - surprise bills, crazy tests etc.
Unfortunately the Liberal National Party in Australia (the current government) have had a long term plan (which they have regularly failed) to dismantle our universal health care system. But then our current PM likes Trump.
Universal healthcare cant be apply in USA cuz that suggest social equality and its something that people can apply to every area in the life and that will collaps the capitalism.We all know that capitalism depend on inequality injustice and class devisions,something that all people in USA love so mach.
@@MegaDixen that's because nazism is national socialism and fascism is pretty much the same. Far right in europe hasn't been like "yeah you should be paying your private healthcare" since the late 1800's .
I live in Africa,Ethiopia one of the poorest countries in the world but guess what we have FREE health care yes completley free no insurance nothing their are private hospitals with foreigner doctors which will make you pay but public hospitals will probably ask you to pay 0.75$
@@lastchance1101 It doesn't really add up though... If there's supposedly enough funding to have free healthcare for everyone then I'd really like to know what your definition of poverty is.
S0urc3C0de: I suppose you’re American since you think free healthcare has anything to do with poverty. Universal healthcare is MUCH cheaper than the American system. People from the US are however indoctrinated to think it’s expensive.
@@rKhighlight I'm from Germany, thank you very much. I know how a well-functioning healthcare system works - I've been living in one my whole life. Furthermore, after having conducted a bit of research, I found NOTHING about any healthcare system whatsoever in the Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia - the situation there is, in fact, described as pretty much the opposite of any sort of healthcare system. So, either, this information is, for some mysterious reason, so well hidden that neither german, nor english sources provide anything about it at all, or my suspicions were well founded after all.
As an American that has been living in Australia for 9 years I can say that a single payer, universal, medicare for all system is NOTHING like what I thought it would be living in the US. I got bit by a spider 4 days ago.. and settle down.. it's a white tail, known in the US as a brown recluse, so not even an exotic Aussie spider. Went to doc.. was able to see him that day, fit me in between patients. Got a couple of scripts, got a swab taken for him to send it off to test for a secondary infection and a follow up appointment next week. I've paid a grand total of $13.00 for all of this. I had my gallbladder removed. The doctors visits cost me nothing, the surgery cost me nothing. The ultra sounds to diagnose cost me nothing. The wait time.. was about 6 weeks from the first serious attack. Keep in mind, after knowing what it was mine was treated with diet until surgery. I was not in pain and not a critical need. Back in the US.. the gallbladder would have had me bankrupt. The spider bite would have me wondering how to pay the electric bill.
Ya, it sucks if you don't have really good health insurance in US. Even some "good" health insurance (that cost money every month) still leaves high medical bills.
@@kathleeninkansas1770 and yet most of you cant even afford even the most simple of healthcare. You are essentially a 3rd World country full of people that cant even afford the essential that is healthcare. Healthcare is not a luxury it is an essential without your health you have nothing. Everybody pays for healthcare in Europe so whats to disbelieve? It just works & its not extortionate. I would much rather pay for healthcare the way we do than the way you do. I'm reading even for simple medical care peopele getting charged $5k! How can that be right? Because we all pay in Europe brings the cost of treatments down. By your own comments my dog has better healthcare than most of you Americans! Thats savage.
@@kathleeninkansas1770 also sayes a lot about your own governent then doesn't it. We have had NHS here for 80 years now & yes there are issues but medicine is still free to us at the point of use even with our government
@@kathleeninkansas1770 no you would rather die on a dirty ood sidewalk someplace rather than have basic medical care. What a bizarre country youl live in!?!
@@kathleeninkansas1770 and yes it is actually cheaper for us because you buy medical care policies for healthcare that would otherwise cost you more than we pay but also therrs a double whammy here get this you are at the mercy of the health care cover provider so if you have suffered with a condition they are pergectly within their right to bump your policy up. Well that doesn't happen here in Europe.
My wife and I were on vacation in France a few years ago. She sprained her ankle so we went to see the local doctor, who suggested she have an X-ray in a local clinic, nearby. The X-ray, which was reviewed by a radiologist, showed there to be no break but it was indeed sprained. They wrapped it gave her a prescription for a set of crutches and some pain killers which we filled at the local pharmacy. The costs; €20 for the first doctor, €40 for the X-ray and treatment in the clinic, €5 for an anti inflammatory pain killers and the crutches were free. €65 all in. This all took less than two hours. I have no idea if this is typical, but, my God, it was great. We didn’t have to, but we gave the crutches back to the pharmacy, before we left. This is not socialism, it’s basic decency in a sophisticated civilized country.
If it had been the UK it would have been free except for the painkillers, they analysed it and discovered that it was cheaper just to treat everyone than set up the tracing and billing systems necessary to charge foreigners/ tourists.
I was in Croatia hiking. I fell and broke my left wrist. A rescue helicopter hoisted me into the chopper from the mountain whereupon I was taken to the hospital by ambulance. After a thorough physical exam to rule out other trauma,( I am a diabetic and have a heart condition) my coles fracture of the left wrist was straightened and placed in a cast. I went to the cashier. The total cost was $20 AMERICAN dollars CASH‼️ All I had to show was my US driver’s license . I signed a consent form to be treated. Passport not required! It is a medical experience I cannot forget. The amiability and the gracefulness removed any thoughts that I was in “foreign” country.
@@Perados lol croatia is not a shithole. medical care there is great. i lived in both germany and scandinavia and i still went to the private docs and dentists in croatia when needed due to them being better. they even have specialists that you cant find anywhere else in the world. even the most expensive doctors with best equipment on the market wont cost you a fraction of what it would cost you in the states.
""@@doublewidesurprise6016 it's actually a company called the "Fed" and if it was all that powerful you would be living in a proper house not a double wide!
Thats what you get when you (the US governemnt) want to behave as the "world police". All those money spent on the military budget would have done miracles to the US healthcare system! But make no mistake though! Its not the average Joe on the street that have made the US government into what it is today, but the asshole politicians with nothing else but business in mind! In most countires with a presidency, the people are usually forced to choose between the lesser of two evils. Just look at the last US election... Choosing between Killary and Dump is just about the same as choosing if you're going to shoot yourself in the left or right foot! In the end you'll still end up wounded. America could have been so much better for the people if its politicians only had wanted it.
Thought the same thing but then again who is gonna protect our asses when WW3 breaks out? German military is a joke, is not really combat experienced in recent times and has no nukes. Sounds good for idealists but when shit hits the fan somebody will need big brother.
Pew TheBIind That might seem like a logical train of thought. But when you consider that the second place for military expenditure is China with their highest annual expenditure sitting at 250 billion dollars and usually sits at 150 billion with Russia following as third with 69 billion dollars. 600 billion dollars annually is fucking ludacris. You can literally half that and still spend more than the closest competitor. Secondly I do not think that spending more at the military yields any protection from ww3 since usually the possession of weapons results in more violence rather than the contrary. Also considering the fact wars are fought differently now. Also with trump sitting in the oval office I would say the US is most likely to cause ww3 or at least another cold war rather than protect us from it. Anyways if you cant stay on top of the military game with 300 billion annually then there is some serious misexpenditure and mismanagement going on in the US' Military. I mean even cutting only a slight sliver out of that budget would yield a increase in infrastructure and healthcare quality and yank the US out of the 20th century that they seem to be so stubbornly stuck in.
+DynamicX Dude you are only scratching the tip of the iceberg, this is too deep. Anything overthere is profit for companies, the goverment pay the companies make. They need 10 000 cases of amunition, the country pay to private company who will charge big time and deliver. At the same time from this hudge price a piece will go for the one that sighn the deal whit this company, some for the topper in comand and etc. You can check there army is not that big, even North Korea got bigger regular personal than the US. ... well i lied here but the diference is like 1-200 000 people from a 1 000 000. China another example, got 2 times bigger personal than the US and still pay so much less. +Pew The Blind rember my words in the near 2 years there will be another economic crisis and again will start from the US(the dept) and when your country cant take more ... well then the shit will hit the fan.
I have to comment on this video. I'm from Europe, and I was in the USA for 7 months as a student. I had to go to the hospital for a very bad stomach pain with other symptoms. They took me to a small room with a bed and asked me what is the problem, then I had to wait. I had to give them my urine so they can check that I'm telling the truth that I didn't take any drugs. What? I never ever experienced something like that in European countries. After that, another two people came in and I had to tell them the same story (where I have my pain when it began and so on). After that, again, I had to wait for another two people that I had to tell the same story again and again. So, for this, I had to pay almost 2.000 dollars. Yes, you read correctly, 2.000 dollars. For nothing. After almost one hour of waiting and telling the same story, again and again, they just told me that I have to go to a specialist. And for this, they charged me 2.000 dollars. Fortunately, my European health insurance paid it all back to me. So yes that is my experience with the USA healthcare. It's a big joke, they charge you so much money for absolutely nothing, they even don't help you and send you somewhere else. If I would have something serious, I will be dead by now.
Eva J. That's our "system" right there in a nutshell. And to the political party in charge, if you even suggest that you shouldn't have to deal with that, you're called a spoiled entitled millennial that just wants handouts and everything for free. It's sickening, it is truly truly sickening. It's such a relief to see these comments from other countries. I agree with people all over the world more than my fellow countrymen (and women).
@@AmbyJeans I think that you would improve your cohesion as a society just by doing It the way european states do: less sense of injustice, less violence and rage, this is patriotism: taking care of your people.
He’s not an eh citizen so he isn’t covered for free care, of course here in Europe we care about foreigners so we still don’t charge the fuck out of them, just enough
@@MarkSmith-vo1vn I had been living in Italy, Spain, Germany and the Netherlands. Italians are stunned when we have to pay more than 10 EUR and if we take our health card (given to all citizens for free) with us we don't have to pay anything but prescriptions in EU as price is covered by our country, our homeless get treated for free, immigrants are treated for free so yeah, 80 EUR seems like a lot to Italians, we expect that kind of price after a 7-8 months hospital bed rest but only if your wealth is beyond some high threshold or you need some 1 in a billion like prescription (rare genetic conditions and such that have never been considered by the national healthcare system because, you know, numbers).
I spent 13 days in hospital, 3 days in ICU for meningococcal sepsis in Sweden, my total bill was US $195. That was for the meals and bed, and wifi. I'm not gonna pretend the meals were good, I'm fat so even if I had some choices, there were a lot of sallad, white fish and lean meals... Can't blame them there. And the wonderful nurses, since I was in -total- isolation, no visits, no nothing, brought newspapers and treats from their lunchroom. Sometimes a smoothie, sometimes a muffin. A late night coffee and sandwish. It was very appreciated. I had to pay an extra $89 for like 4 subscription meds when I left. And they fully compensated the cost of the Taxi that brought me home, since there was no busses late at night. I can't even stress how 5/5 I would rate it, fresh clean clothes every day, cleaners that looked like Martians in their suits... Still friendly and joking around.
Here is a fun fact. When my dad had an appendicitis at like 2 AM in the morning and had go into the ICU for over a week, the care he got was on par or better than what you said. His condition was so bad that he would not have made it in most places but here he survived with no complications. And the total cost for all of the days in the ICU and and ambulance and the very nice food he got was less than $1000 out of pocket. The rest was covered by insurance. Why would Americans support a system if it made everyone poor who used it? We have so many systems for the poor over here to have affordable Healthcare. Nobody is going homeless because of a broken arm. Thats what you Europeans don't understand. The Swiss Healthcare system is alot like America's too, if you cared to look into it.
@@mroof523 This is the dumbest shit I ever read. So he "only had to pay $1000" because a good health insurance... What do you pay with a shitty health insurance or none at all? I don't have an insurance, i don't need one. And did you just confuse Sweden for Switzerland wtf?
@@mroof523 I am Portuguese, I have a friend who wants to go to the USA, I am also wondering if it would be better or worse than here in Europe, and the Healthcare and workers rights scare me in the USA. What do you do if you lose your job because your employer feels like it? Does the government help you in any way or are you screwed?
In europe, when we hear you in the US got an accident (lets say you crashed with your bike) and you have to pay up to 5k for an ambulance and a medical team to pick you up, we don't understand how can you live in peace. I wouldnt leave my house, literally I'd live in a buble
Well, in Poland there is this obligation (when someone is old or very sick) for ambulance pick up such person to hospital even for a day to day care. Ppl can drive their own car but when the ambu gets for them its like they dont have to wait too much to be cared for in hospital, they go first bc ambu picked them up from home.
I don’t get how people can hate on countries such as Sweden for their health insurance and calling it “communism”. When a country is that rich and a greatly developing economy, why wouldn’t you have (almost) free healthcare. Here people who are sick actually get help and don’t have to decline medical treatment because they can’t afford a ridiculous amount of money for something small. It’s crazy imo
Germans dont appreciate their health care because its almost free, and because of that the doctor treat their patients within a few minutes not even listening to them. People here go to the doctors with just little things, and people who are really sick dont get the treatment they deserve
Free universal healthcare = something every 1st world country has (including some 3rd world countries) but something the USA doesn't have, for reasons only greed and corruption can answer.
I mean "free" isnt really true. As a german, the normal workforce has to pay ~7-8% (the maximum is 560€ in total/mo if i recall correctly ) of there paycheck with the very same amount paid by the employer. It is nice to have, but i think that it is sometimes being labeld wrong.
@@Cod4Wii I know that you pay tax haha. What i meant to say is, that there is a dedicated SoocialSecurity Tax, which is split up into healtcare and 4 other branches. By far the largest portion (~7-8 out of 14% (?)) goes to your health insurance company. No middle man in between. Btw, sry for my writing skills. Speaking is not a problem, but gramma and so on...^^
Yup, richest nation on the planet should join the majority that is slacking behind, I guess they're ahead in everything for no reason and should just be like the rest
Its amazing to me how mindblowing this actually sounds to americans. I currently live in Spain, I had a seizure some time ago, my friends called an ambulance, the ambulance got me in the hospital, where they tested me for everything. I just had to show my EU sanitary card. Final cost of this 0€ (well actually 4 euros for prescription pills). Sorry for the euro-brag lol
I had to pay nearly 2,500 dollars for a a simple cyst removal, and my insurance covered the rest of the $12,000 bill, which I could have drained with an exacto knife at home if they told me ahead of time it would cost me the value of a car. But here in America you get really neat surprise bills when you get sick.. What is your life worth to you? How can we profit?
@@zee9709 A lot of doctors here are scam artists and crooks. I got bounced to three doctors for a specialist referral, I paid a hundred dollars out of pocket in co-pays just to see the general surgeon. Then he said he had to do the cyst removal in the hospital because it was on my scalp and might bleed a lot. Then where the bill went crazy is they used an "out of network" anesthesiologist during the procedure that ran up an extra $6,000. None of which was explained to me in advance, just Surprise!!! Here's your part of the bill after insurance a week later in the mail. All for a hat cyst as big as a marble I could have jabbed at home.
That EU sanitary card is really a good idea. Even though my family has a private health insurance, which kind of speeds up things, I'm so thankful I live in Spain where we have public healthcare. Although it used to be better (cut budgets from previous governments undermined it), the professionals who work there and the system in general prevent many people from being unattended. I am thankful to all of them.
I am a Kiwi and I hurt my back at Munich (Germany) airport while rushing to a connecting flight with my husband (flight ended up delayed anyway). I was in agony. Within 5 mins a motorized medical trolley appeared and I was put on a stretcher and taken down to a large health clinic. I was immediately seen by a doctor; x-rayed and given pain relief. I received a wonderful massage; was given a container of anti-inflammatory/pain-relieving pills and then taken back upstairs in the medi-trolley. Whereupon they put myself and my husband into a car with flashing lights and drove us out onto the tarmac to the foot of the plane. I was then helped to board. I honestly don't recall that we paid anything at all. If we did it must have been a very small amount. The Germans are soo efficient and wonderful friendly people. I love visiting there. In New Zealand and Australia where I currently live we have universal healthcare too (as does most of the civilized world). The US system is barbaric and morally wrong. Healthcare for profit should be outlawed.
But how are they going to give billionaires trillions of dollars in tax cuts and invade dozens of random countries and subsidise the genocide in Palestine and Yemen if people aren't ripped off and made bankrupt when they have a cold or they scratch their knee?
A few years ago, I had severe food poisoning in Hong Kong. It was so bad, I was puking like a waterfall, I had muscle seizures, I was doubled up and couldn't function. I was put into an ambulance and taken to emergency. I had no idea where I was, I was really vague and dizzy. I was still puking so hard, the staff put, what was effectively a plastic horse bag over my head, because I just couldn't stop heaving. The doctors got a little worried and took me to have an X-ray in case I'd damaged anything internally (it came out ok). They injected me with a couple of things, took blood tests and checked my blood pressure regularly. I was given a sort of set of pyjamas to keep me warm (I felt very cold) and was kept in overnight and given drips to rehydrate. So, some 24+ hours later I felt considerably better and decided to discharge myself to go back to the hotel. I was worried about the cost but when I asked what the damage for all this might be and they said, "Nothing" (as it was an emergency)! There are some very civilised countries in the world.
Chris Powell those grey and white generic pj's we have here in Hong Kong? Love 'em! Plus the blue padded jacket if it's cold...glad our system was able to look after you.
Profezor Snayp As it should be. European healthcare is theft and extortion. Stealing my money to pay for other people. We should be allowed to opt out.
Don't forget other crime syndicates constantly stealing your money: the police, fire department, postal offices and public schools. Sure, whatever you say... :/
Profezor Snayp The difference is that those are essential. I need the police and the fire brigade. Those services would not work privatized. The NHS would. Just don't take national insurance of me and I won't use the NHS. It should be my right. If you want to pay for the NHS then do so but I should not be robbed like this.
As an American expat living in Amsterdam for years....I appreciate how good health care is here. Even people who lose their job or are homeless get good care.
UK here. Last year I ended up in A&E (Emergency Room) on Saturday night, had urine and blood tests, was put on the drip and given pain killers, in the morning they did CT Scan to confirm diagnosis, then transported me in ambulance to another hospital in London for treatment. Gave me morphine and antibiotics that day and said they'll tell me what will be done next day as they wanted to see if antibiotics would help with infection first. Took a turn to worse, was given oxygen at night and Monday morning I was prepped for 1st operation, I was told I'd also need 2nd non emergency one later. I was in the hospital for few more days after operation, then was given a date for 2nd operation (4 weeks later), given all meds I'd need for another 4 weeks and sent home. Came back 4 weeks later, had another operation and was given prescription and told I'll need to come back every few months for follow up after. In total I paid £9 - for that second prescription. That's all. I was off work for total of 6 weeks, had 20 full paid days off sick by my employer, one week was paid from my holiday(I was on my way to the holiday when this happened) and rest (1 week) paid half pay. If it happened in US I'd be in debt for the rest of my life or dead.
WOW £9. Here in the US that CT Scan alone is about $4000 and the doctors love putting patients in them for any reason possible. And yes, you'd be in debt for a long time. Most Americans are one hospital visit away from financial ruin.
Guns don't have anything to do with healthcare and no your country doesn't spend more for the military/guns than health . It's your system that's messed up.
I'm a German citizen & our mandatory health insurance is valid for all EU countries. Since I frequently travel overseas I got myself "additional travel insurance" which is valid worldwide except for U.S. I often wondered "why not U.S.?" but now I understand: because the insurance doesn't wanna go bankrupt.
And that's why I cured myself from the need to visit USA ever... srsly, it's crazy... universal healthcare is not perfect (you Germans took most of our doctors and nurses but you pay them more ;)), but I'll take it anyway and I'm sure that I'll get the needed help when needed
There are slightly more expensives insurrances also covering the US, provided you don't spend more than x days (15 ? 30 ? ... I only needed it for 2 weeks so that was irrelevant) there for each year. It costs something between 200 and 300 EUR a year.
+Ringeistvonmordor: Maybe you should read my comment again. Our German (mandatory) health insurance is valid throughout the EU - that's what I was saying. Btw. same goes for Polish & all EU citizens: if you're traveling through Europe and have an accident, emergency / other sort of urgent need for treatment, costs for you are covered. One of the good things the EU brought about. It's covered either by your home insurance in Poland, or by your host country (depending on the system).
Lived in England for 3 years and had a baby there too. Excellent care. It was so nice to work whatever job I could find because I didn’t have to worry about healthcare. That alone did wonders for my mental health and was the start of me changing from a conservative to a liberal.
Erin Farnes oh no being liberal means you think everyone should be able to come to UK to benefit. What then happens is what is happening now and people think they can come here illegally and abuse our systems. Esp our healthcare. Why should my parents, grandparents have to move down the queue for someone who has never paid into our system. Liberalism just doesn’t work.
@@annonymouse2853 firstly, being liberal means equality and freedom for everyone. secondly, the NHS was made to provide healthcare for everyone who can or can not afford it, this could be a lone parent family or an asylum seeker. thirdly, your parents or grandparents won't move down the list because healthcare isn't first come, first served (there ain't no list) - it is determined via priority and necessity, there is a reason why if you call the ambulance and you state you have a small headache they will ask you if it affects any of your motor functions and if it does then they will send an ambulance.
You actually think your healthcare if free? You literally believe this doesn’t cost anyone anything and just accept that as truth. Canadian have just got severely dumb in my lifetime.
I can also say in my entire life there is not once that I didn’t have to pay for a doctors visit or prescription in Canada. But the years I lived in the USA my health insurance covered even the visit and prescription.
I am Australian, so it would be about $50 here.. I broke my foot when on holiday in the USA and it was over $4000 for the xray and the specialist to look at it, probably 3 hours all up... almost died, thankfully I got a lot of it back from travel insurance. Americans get completely screwed. Interesting story.
a country where all the people are healthy, is a country that could count on a efficient workforce, so what's the point to keep people sick in the USA when basic treatment could heal people so easy? still illogic and non sense ( of course , if you are a healthcare worker and manager maybe it could have one sense, the profit)
Nerfenstain aka / fucking liberal / …. I am American and I pay $150 a month for my health insurance, that is including X-rays , dental , simply everything . Where am I screwed ??
martinko40 what happens in america when someone Who is born with a chronical illness turns 18 and have to get incurens by themself and not live om their parents incurense? What happens IF you can not afford those 150 dollars a month eventhough you work 2 Jobs but only make minimumwage? Sure here in my country we pay alot of taxes.. But I still can afford to live... And live over The standard.. Eventhough I am just an normal employee working at a counstructionsite.
Booxeen, $150 / month apply to me , because I earn MOORE than minimum wage . If somebody is born with chronical illness and is over 18 years old. he, like my son will get on SSI/ disability which is including health insurance for FREEEEEEE in USA. Also low income people / grand money recipients has medical covered by government insurance , which means it is FREEEEE to them . Where are you getting that NONSENCE, that in USA people are dying for lack of insurance ?? Australia ?? France ?? People who do NOT have health insurance are earning quite a bit of the money, so they can afford to pay for theirs own insurance . Some of them decided NOT to pay for insurance , which is their CHOICE !! However they are still will be treated like anybody else , but the bill for treatment will come later .
When my ex visited me in the UK he got sick and went to the urgent care. Examination, IV fluids, blood test, and painkillers, all of it free. He was like tiptoeing out like we were going to get in trouble for skipping the bill, he couldn't believe the level of care and that it was free.
You can argue that the US Military is.. US healthcare kill only 45000 people every year. But they ruin 300 million lives every year though, whereas the US military kill hundred thousands of civilians every year. Not sure what is worse..
You are right by the numbers but I do not speak about numbers. Healthcare and military are not the same category. Military job is to kill (for many reasons), healthcare job is to help. So,there are to many people in US who died just because they did not have to pay for help by healtcare system. US healtcare system kills its own people,US citizens,people who work and pay taxes like everybody else in Canada,Australia,New Zeland,Russia,Japan,England,France,Italy,Spain,Germany...all Europe. Everywhere free healthcare system is possible (free because we/they pay taxes,so we/they pay it by paying taxes) and it works for decades only in US they say it is not passible and the most sutpid thing they say is that free healthcare is communism. :D :D I'm not sure that countries like Canada,AUS,England,Germany,France are communist countries. :D
It all depends on how you look at it. Why I said it is debatable. Both are horrible in their own right. Would you call a terrorist organisation an organized crime organisation?
In Coorperation with the dairy and meat industry. The latter makes us sick and the first one uses this oppertunity to pump everyone full with pills. The documentary "What The Food" proves the insanely huge mafia behind it standing above the goverment, a must watch .
I lived in Spain and loved it! Later took my children to Spain. My daughter became ill with a sore throat and fever. At the Pharmacy, the Pharmacist asked me about her symptoms, just like a doctor. After I told her she asked for my daughter's weight and height and I was able to get antibiotics for her. Cost? $5.00. Then, I got very ill. Turned out I had pneumonia. Cost for the ER doctor (wait was less than 5 minutes) x-ray and medicine was $70.00 total. In the USA it would have been far more if we hadn't had health insurance. Call it socialized medicine or social health CARE, what matters is everyone should have FREE health care. So what if we pay it in taxes from our pay check. We pay health insurance out of our pay check already. The big difference is what IF you suddenly no longer get a pay check because of a job loss? The company downsizes, closes, or you get in an accident or get seriously ill and no longer able to work? And can't afford COBRA? No pay check, no health insurance. But, through social health care, no one would have such worry, let alone the stress. And stress CAN kill you. Please, it is long overdue for the USA to become more civilized and caring when it comes to health CARE!
@Tim Blanks She also had swollen glands. (Wasn't just a cold.) I don't know if Pharmacies in Spain hand out antibiotics like candy, but doubt it. What I do know is they are far better trained than Pharmacist here. Based on my symptoms, the Pharmacist told me I needed to be seen by a doctor. I did.
The funny thing is, the US spends more tax money per capita on healthcare then most european countries, on top of everything they spend privately. And in return they get no public healthcare.
I'm a European and an American citizen, and I have lived on both sides of the ocean and had insurance in both places. He said an emergency room visit in the US would probably cost about $500 without insurance - SO MUCH MORE! I HAD insurance while living in SoCal. My son was sick so I brought him to the ER. They ran a standard blood test and then forgot about us for hours. They tried to give him an IV for possible dehydration but they couldn't get it to work. They had no idea what they were doing - they left us with the needle inserted but the fluid not flowing for over an hour. When I realised it wasn't going down, I had to chase them down. Someone came in and turned it on too much so that it hurt his veins and I had to run find someone again to stop it. They ended up asking him to chug a pitcher of ice water instead of just doing the IV properly. Real medical genius at work here. I finally checked us out after it was clear they were not going to do anything, had no idea what was wrong with him, and frequently forgot we were in the room waiting for them. As I'm checking us out, blood spurts like a geyser out of my son's arm because of how badly they butchered his IV. They get mad at me for his blood getting on their floor and give me attitude when I try to go to the bathroom to wash the blood off my hands. We go home exhausted with no answers and with blood all over both of our clothes. Six months later, they track me down to say that AFTER insurance, I owe them $1,000+. I contest it and explain what happened. I say I am not paying for a botched IV, a pitcher of ice water, and doctors who forgot we were there. They performed an investigation without bringing me in as a witness and THEY determined that THEY had done nothing wrong and that I did indeed still owe them over $1,000 - for absolutely nothing! They took money from my insurance and then still wanted all that from me. It's a joke!
You got a good deal, when I went to the ER it was $1500 before they even touched me. That was with insurance. I then had a CT scan and some pain meds, and in all it cost me over $4000 with insurance
On the wage I make, I'm quite sure I couldn't pay this bill if I were to get sick. How dangerous is it for a society when your population won't get the care they need because they might not be able to afford it in the end. If you go beyond the simple fact of the ethic of it, it harms the productivity and general health of your society. Even in an economical calculated point of view, it is counter productive.
It would have been pretty much free if he were a German citizen, which, had it all happened in Germany, would have brought the total to a 5 Euros deductible for the pain meds.
Don't be misled, in the United States the government runs the healthcare system. They just enforce monopolies in hospitals, pharmaceutical and insurance. They ban all competition, privatize profits, socialize losses and blame the high prices on the free market. This is a problem created by the government.
Sorry to say this, but hamerica is the most hated country, for all good and valid reasons, and definitely not the best country...faaar from it...you don't even have freedom of speech anymore and you hate one another...hate other countries...downgrade another countries...invade and destroy cultures..you have become terrorists...I can't wait till this devil empire falls...
I'm Dutch and I spent some time in the US. At one point I got a UTI (bladder infection) mostly due to dehydration (I wasn't exactly used to desert climate level water intake!) and had to go see a doctor. The clinic was completely empty and yet they made me wait 2 hours to see someone. I told them what I had, but they insisted on elaborately measuring and testing me first - after an hour of that, I peed in a cup, they confirmed my UTI... and charged me $400 and then later another $400 bill by mail. Wow. The US system is actually inhumane. Everyone should have access to basic medical care, efficiently and affordably, period!
Its is all about profit in america. To the point that hospitals and doctors will lie about your problems and give you meds you don't need to get money. Children on anti depressants! Wtf? Unnecessary tests another add to the profit. The biggest issue with free health care is it gets abused. But it doesn't have to be that way. You aren't a perminant resident you don't get it simple as that but id rather have that than american health care. Its dangerous. No ones life is worth more than another and healthcare is something that no corperation should be able to profit from.
Everyone? even the criminals and the people who have never worked a day in their lifes? Thats called Communism. MIddle class to pay for the Not-willing to work and criminals.
hopefully one day you will, we have had it since the 1940s, I pay 29% tax in total for the country healthcare and pension, id be happy to pay more, our cancer patients pay nothing for transport, prescriptions or care to me that is invaluable, worth every penny
Glad to hear you got yourself checked out. I'm sure if it would have been $800 you might have decided not to go. I live in Austria but i'm from U.K (so technically I'm a foreigner) but I have the E-Card (European Social Card), I also had foot pains and went to my doctor. Didn't pay for the visit, got sent to the hospital where I had a consult, x-ray and medication. Think I paid €3 for pain meds. Then had to return for an operation. I ended up having 3 operations and 7 months paid leave from work. The state insurance which is covered by tax paid my salary for 7 months during my recovery, I also had 3 months of physio and paid the grand total of €3. I couldn't think of a better system. Everyone pays a % of their wages (the more you earn the more you pay) and everybody regardless of wealth, status or occupation gets the best care available. There's no way I could afford to pay 7 months living expenses and doctors fees when I wasn't working. I should have been in debt for about €10,000 instead I paid €3 and I got nearly €10,000 worth of help. I'm now fully recovered and am back at work, paying my taxes for either the next person that needs help or the next time I need help.
I work for a Dutch Healthcare insurance company and I have these conversations on a regular bases. People sometimes ask if they can get a refund because they didn`t use any care over a year. So I explain to them that their premiums were used for sick people, who did use (a lot of) care. But I payed €1200 - €1500 this year? Do you know how much extended cancer treatments costs? No? It could run up to several thousands of Euros, sometimes up to €50.000 or more. How are you going to pay for that? Ehh, That`s what I mean, I am happy to co-pay for that treatment for you if you need it!
Completely agree. There's a lot of issues, don't get me wrong, especially if you're poorly triaged, but once you're in the system treatment is amazing overall. Hell, I'm in Ireland, and their healthcare is one of the worst in Europe, and o had about 20 specialist appointments last year for the cost of a GP visit, 65 euro. Basically, I needed to be referred and that was it.
@Mikael Jensen Bravo. Wonderful summary, carefully explained. Your example of the trans-border undersea tunnel, "waiting in the wings", should be taught in schools and universities throughout the world. Everyone from the Anglo-Saxon part of the world has reason to be grateful to your nation not just for modern examples but for enriching England's history with that short but important period when you provided it with rulers. I was thinking the other day about the wisdom of Knut. His demonstration to his fawning courtiers of the limits to his authority, when he "commanded" the tide to stop coming up the beach and it took no heed, was an example which might have sparked a more enlightened streak ... and even conceivably have helped England, 660 years later, to be the first nation to officially recognise everyone, including the monarch, as being equal under the law.
@Mikael Jensen Speaking as the citizen of another enlightened country (in some ways) I am delighted for you, and full of admiration. It makes SO much more sense to use "paper money" to fund infrastructure than to loan it into existence in the usual way, which mainly benefits the financial sector. We won't follow suit, because while a tunnel to our nearest neighbour would be a huge benefit to both of us, it would take two or three days to drive through it!
@Mikael Jensen You do realise there's a very active fault, the Alpine Fault on NZ's main divide, along the entire stretch where such a tunnel would have to come ashore? Good luck designing a tunnel which could handle lateral dislocation, on either side of a single transverse plane, of 10-20m in opposite directions! Couldn't agree more with your underlying thesis, though....
Well , I am from Spain and I had Covid. I had to go to doctor, the doctor do a rapid test, after a PCR , and radiography and pills ( 8 December) I was really sick during last two week. I couldn't go to my job. Healthcare pay your salary when I'm sick I waited more in emergency room, 30 min, and the radiograph 30 min more TOTAL BILL: 1'25 Euros (for pills) yes 1 euro and 25 centims Well , I am a citizen When you pay taxes, it's natural to receive services with that taxes, it's the same call the police, firefighters or ambulance
Living in Germany as a British citizen, my son was not well, he was rushed to hospital, we were seen in front of everyone, no waiting what so ever. They were amazing! Because my husband is in the army we paid zero. Living in the uk, I’ve just had a knee replacement two weeks ago, I paid zero! That is the beauty of having a national health service! We pay a small amount out of our pay and this gives me no worry about being treated if I get sick. Our health care is amazing! I wish American would see this.
That's a difference. When you have anything urgent and arrive in an ambulance you'll be taken care of right away or just anything urgent basically. If you "walk in" it's usually not urgent. I broke my foot once and although it really hurt I had to wait for some time, no problem there. I crashed my motorcycle and was taken by an ambulance, again nothing life threatening, just a few bruises, I had to wait some time before they did a scan, etc. But if you had an open fracture or something that requires immediate attention you'll be taken care of right away. Hospitals are notoriously understaffed so that's why you have to wait, nurses and doctors have to take care of many other patients at the same time. So if it does not require immediate attention you'll have to wait a little. Also the emergency room / Notaufnahme does not really exist in the same way as in the states(at least in germany). Either you come in an ambulance (actual Notaufnahme) or you walk in, ask at the reception where to go and you'll be forwarded to the corresponding section.
Der Keksinator not how it worked for us. In Germany we walked in having come by car being sent from the doctor. my boy was only 12 months and was dealt with super fast and admitted. The care he was given was outstanding. I happened to have just come out of hospital last week, I arrived in a&e (the ER if you’re American), waited 10 mins and was sent through and seen by a doctor. This is in the UK, our health service is amazing. Gets bad press because of lack of government funding but we are so lucky. Very over stretched but we make it work. No one is turned away, and everyone is looked after. One thing is, if you fall ill while visiting the uk you won’t have to be paying out for a bill to be seen by a doctor or to have an X-ray. You may have to pay for your medication though, otherwise it’s free, and fantastic!!
Well that is the point. To take the worries about such things. Constantly having to worry if you could afford treatment for your kid? That is a horrible thought. No one should live with that damocles sword above their head.
Taxes saved my life. I nearly died one time: I was 3 weeks in a coma. I was attended to by 3 specialists, a round-the-clock team of critical care nurses & a gauntlet of blood tests & cultures, lumbar punctures, x-rays, CT scans, & full life support including renal dialysis. Even after another 3 weeks recovering on the ward, I was still discharged without a bill. I even got free medical consultation & physiotherapy throughout my recovery. Medications totaled around $100 over the entire duration. I lived to go back to work in order to pay my taxes so that someone else can benefit from the same healthcare I had. That was really the only debt I owed. I hope my taxes have gone to help save someone else's life. It's only fair. A well funded public health system is the best form of health insurance a society can buy.
"People should be able to afford going to the doctor's" literally all of the civilized world besides america: ok sounds reasonable america: but DATS *COMMUNISM **_REEEEEEEEEEEEEE_*
If you had to wait 30 minutes in the urgency room, it's because they checked with you when you came in and a sprained or broken foot is not prioritary. When I went there beliving I had an heart attack I was in front of a doctor in less than 2 minutes.
I’d hate to go to a hospital where the first thought of the doctor is how much it’s gonna cost ,and refuse care if not covered. Capitalism is ok except for education and healthcare both should be a human right
Broke my leg completely skiing in Sweden. Ambulance, 2 x-rays, surgery inserting a titan rod in my leg, 4 days in hospital, prescription drugs and meals at the hospital. Total cost for me as a Swedish citizen.. 45 euros.
I am an American citizen who worked for 35 years as a floor nurse in an inner city hospital I can tell you we do have the best of everything especially healthcare vs any other country bar none. I have had the pleasure of working with doctors from all over the world and to recap I will tell you that in many parts of the EU their surgeons autoclave surgical sponges -in other words to save money the blood soaked sterile gauze pads that are put into patients for soaking up blood during surgery are rinsed off and sterilized to be used again for the next patient. Many who find they need a surgical intervention within a few days and sometimes sooner are given a script so they or their family members can pick up the surgical kit to be used during the procedure. We have had people come from all over the world to have something fixed that would have been done right here much earlier to prevent many of the things Ive seen. I assisted an Indian doctor who performed a tracheostomy on an alert and awake woman with no numbing of the area bc he felt it was her karma to have to go thru that and feel it and have had much similar things like that with other foreign practitioners. Health care is not free here in the US but we are free to pick and choose who and where we want to go and we do have welfare and free care areas in my city that take care of the poor with doctors and nurses who volunteer with their free time. No second rate country here just some good hard working people who get a bad rap by the socialist agenda who are jealous of our freedoms.
Nino Monaco If you could read, you'd know I wasn't responding to you, but to the ignoramus who originally replied to your comment. But thanks anyway for the insult when I was basically defending you. Idiot.
Funny thing is that Americans say that European countries are socialists. Nope they are capitalistic countries just like the USA but they have some vital aspects of society that are not for sale. Healthcare for example. It is funded with taxes, of course it’s not free, but those taxes are maybe 200-300 euro per month. A good health insurance in NYC costs $1000 and you are not even covered 100%. They pay much more to get less. In any case in Europe there are public and also private hospitals and specialists so you have freedom of choice. The good part is that privates have competition from public system so unlike in the US they can’t charge astronomical bills. In the USA privates have no competition, they all agree to increase prices every year, it’s a mafia.
Few years ago my son got sick and I didn’t have insurance thru my employer at the time because it cost $300 dollars monthly and I was already not making much. He didn’t get sick much so I decided to not get it. Well, he got very ill and was in the hospital for weeks. After we were discharge the bills started arriving, the total amount of the hospital stay was 119k up until this day they have not seen a penny from me because I just don’t have the money to pay so that went to my credit. I can’t buy or have anything of my own because of that. If you don’t have good credit here you can’t buy nothing (car, house, etc) so go figure...the American dream? More like nightmare!
It's terrible what you say. I´m sorry. You have to do everything you can to change that in your country. It does not make any sense and it is unfair that the richest country in the world does not have enough to take care of the health of its citizens. It is an authentic shame.
Isa -- that is horrible. I don't know if you are aware that you can negotiate with the hospital before they send it out for collection. They would rather not send it to collection because of the cost of that. They have their own in-hospital collection department. I don't know if it's too late. Get some advice. You tell them -- this is ALL I have -- 5000 for instance. I will give you this when you send me a letter that this will pay my account in full -- you have to get the promise in writing because they will take your 5000 and you will still owe 114,000. They would rather have something than nothing. I don't know if 5000 is enough to close it but you get my drift. It's outrageous but that's how it is until America wakes up and the Congress starts working for all the people, not just a few.
Ntakovac J I was not aware of that. Thank you for letting me know. Is been a few years now but I am planning on fixing that in the upcoming months. Thank you so much for that information. It is sad that we have to go thru that. The so call richest country in the world rips us off like this.
lol when people in Europe go to the hospital they worry about their illness. Meanwhile when I go to the hospital I'm like is this pain worth the $6,000 bill I will get after.
Healthcare in Europe is seen as a fundamental human right, after all if one doesn’t have ones health one has nothing. It’s rather sad to see a country which allows profiteering from suffering. Turning someone’s misery in dollar bills. What’s worse is it’s actually inefficient, resulting in higher costs in the US compared with Europe. Kinda sad socialism is such a dirty word in the US, you’ve been duped friends.
@mike a the problem is conservatives who bow down to their overlords in the big pharma industry, and the stupid idiots who vote for them, like yourself.
America is like the child who won't come out of his room because he thinks that by staying in there he is somehow punishing his parents. He doesn't understand that his parents are happy to let him stay in there with his own misery and stubbornness because he is only hurting himself. Unfortunately, this ideology is dragging the rest of us down with it.
@@lordcharles9786 Yeah, and any other Western country that has implemented socialized medicine with any modicum of success. Granted, in the United States it would be a daunting challenge, more so than anywhere else. But you've got to start somewhere if any progress is to be made. It's no use covering your eyes and ears and pretending nothing can be done.
@@stonesforlife4267 The cost of medical care in the United States is insane. A couple years ago I went to emergency with chest pain. I try to avoid going to ER, but I couldn't stand the pain. They took an X-ray and I talked to the doctor for five minutes and he gave me over-the-counter anti inflammatories. The bill was $2500!!! Some friends of mine had a motorcycle accident a few years ago and their auto insurance would only cover up to $25,000. They were in the hospital three days. They owe $100,000 in hospital bills beyond what their insurance paid. It's sad because they're a young couple with a kid and they're stuck in a tiny apartment and struggling because of their medical bills. Crazy thing is the husband is a hardcore conservative and is still against single payer because it's "Socialism." He's what's wrong with American healthcare. Some people will cut off their nose to spite their face. So many people would have better opportunities if they weren't suffocating from doctor bills.
As an English person it always shocks me to hear any money being involved in healthcare but then I realise that things like even a couple hundred euros is ridiculously cheap for Americans. So strange how they stand for that.
@@JohnHughesChampignyI do. Nothing about my comment is changed by that. I was trying to express the difference in me thinking that any money involved is a scam whereas an American being relieved to only have to pay an amount that would ruin my month, if not year, if I had that bill.
This is such a great video. I'm so happy you had a good experience in both the Netherlands and Germany. I have lived in both countries (originally from Canada) and they're great. In Amsterdam, I would call my doctor to make an appointment and she'd be like, come in half an hour...or come in the afternoon. It was ALWAYS the same day. Doctors in NL/DE are way more hands on than in Canada. They really know how all the nerves, ligaments, muscles, etc are connected and will use touch and sight to see what's going on. In Germany, the most you can pay for a prescription is 5 eur per prescription. So if I got antibiotics and a painkiller it would be 10 eur total. Here's the thing Americans won't like though, in Germany my family is in the highest tier for income and so our total amount for health insurance is about 400 eur/month. That's because we make a lot of money, so we're paying for poorer people. We are 100% fine with this. We are very lucky and have no problem knowing that we are helping someone else pay for their insurance. Americans would freak out about that. It's very sad.
Crystal Franke-Carlisle In doing a conversion in my head, that’s around or a bit above the high tier of American health insurance per person. And you pay that for your entire family? Holy hell... that goes to show how much private for-profit companies cost to operate.
Remember that if you have an emergency an ambulance ride can easily cost something like 4000 euros if you had to pay for it yourself (which you obviously don't) and that would only be to even get to the hospital. So paying 400 euro/month isn't as bad a deal as you make it seem.
@@freekdomburg6081 I wish Americans would learn the difference between Communism and Socialism. Communism is what China has - one Government - no vote. Whether you like it or not, socialism exists in EVERY country - it's just at different levels and different areas. Do you pay tax to the Government? You DO have socialism in your country. Do you have police paid by public money who protect all citizens? You DO have socialism in your country. Do you pay ANY money into ANY type of communal pot that benefits all, or many, people? You DO have socialism in your country. Even the expensive insurance you pay is a form of socialism - and ARE you DEFINITELY paying for other people's medical bills with insurance, but you are also paying for very rich people to maintain their rich lifestyle. Socialism is ANY type of shared resource, including military. America has MASSES of socialism with respect to its military - the military is a socialist construct. But Americans apparently don't see military and Governments as socialist institutions. The difference is where, and on what, a country chooses to spend the money put into that communal pot. Most countries spend most of that money on health care and education. America spends the vast majority of that money on military, and uses propaganda to teach their society that spending money on military instead of health care and education for the masses is good. Sadly, many generations of this propaganda has brainwashed American citizens into believing that money placed into communal pot to benefit poorer, or the general population, is labelled as "Socialism" and money collected for the communal pot that benefits the rich is not labelled socialism. Secondly, they are indoctrinated into believing that "Socialism" is bad, without actually being taught what "Socialism" means at all! It's bizarre, and extraordinarily sad! If you ask the average American to describe exactly what Socialism and Communism actually mean and to list the differences between the two, almost none of them can explain. It's so much into their psychology that the belief is like breathing and native language acquisition - it's automatic, and anyone can do it. As a result, America is a declining country, imploding upon itself. This Coronavirus might actually be the straw that really breaks it. I feel very sad for American people...
USA - I went to the emergency room once for a sinus infection, i knew without a doubt thats what i had. So after waiting around for the Doctor to come he touches my face and says yes you have sinus infection and then wrote me a prescription. How much was that bill? 600 fucking dollars. I told them i would pay them like 80-100 and they would never get the rest lol. Ill be damned if im going to pay 600 for someone touching my face once. I already knew what i had and all i needed was a prescription in the first place.
In the UK that would cost £9.15, the cost of the prescription. You would probably have waited longer but a sinus infection is just an inconvenience not life threatening so no rush. You can buy private healthcare in the UK which is comparatively cheap and if you end up in an NHS hospital rather than a private one they pay you to be there.👍👍👍
@Captain Brandon Horror Lover Over 400 years ago? You do realize that the United States haven't even yet existed for 250 years, right? So what exactly are you referring to? The problem with nationalism (or even patriotism) is that it really quickly turns into a sense of superiority and once that's established, people are just too proud to let go of it and admit that their country/culture/religion is not the best at everything after all.
@Captain Brandon Horror Lover Well, I'm German. I certainly don't need to tell you what we sometimes still have to deal with. Whilst you could say that my parents were rather "close" to these events; in reality, when they were born, the Federal Republic of Germany had already celebrated its 10th anniversary. But yeah, I figured you didn't really mean 400 years ago... I simply couldn't refuse to be the little b*tch pointing it out 😬 Anyway... yeah, I agree with you. Most of the problems people had or have with each other are based on the incomprehension of something different. All animals naturally fear what they don't know, however, us being human beings, we do have the mind to see and understand another perspective. Simply refusing to do so (which is essentially what nationalists do most of the time) is just a sign of lower intelligence, or outright stupidity, in my not so humble opinion.
This has been my experience too. I have lived in Germany and Japan. Those are CIVILIZED countries that don't believe health care is a luxury that only the rich should be able to afford. I remember when I took my Japanese wife to America and after a hike, she noticed a tick had embedded itself in her shoulder. She insisted a doctor remove it because "that's who does it in Japan." Well, it was 10:00 pm, so the only choice was to go to an emergency room. To make a long story short, getting a tick removed and an antibiotic shot cost us $480, I kid you not. We had Japanese travel insurance which later reimbursed us, but still, that was just an outrageous amount of money to get a tick removed. In Japan or Germany, it would have cost $15 max.
I've had one removed by my local vet once. It was late and the closest hospital is 30 minutes away. I took a chance since she had already removed a couple from one of my dogs. She asked me how long ago I was bitten. It was only a couple hours before so the risk of infection was minimal. She put some gloves on, pulled out forceps out of a sterile bag and promptly twisted it out. A couple minutes in and out and no charge. I'm in Canada so it still would not have cost much anything but I was happy not to have drive and wait at a hospital.
I had a tick removed when I was on holiday in Austria. I´m danish, and had my danish insurance card with me. The doctor (private praxis) didn´t charge a dime or asked for my insurancecard. I guess the cost filling out the paperwork, would cost more then the procedure
When I realised that I was in the US with no medical insurance, I took a great deal of care. Being European I am used to my medical card which gives me access to free or subsidised care!
Humanity, including Americans, has a responsibility to itself. The US is the only country which hasn't learned that healthcare and equality should be a given paid for by everyone, for everyone.
Spam Mouse The total amount of taxation, however, is vastly less than US premiums, co-pays and other surcharges. Amount of dollars spent per unit of health is just less in single payer or heavily government controlled systems. This while care and health outcomes are almost always as good or better than in the US.
Read the post above yours. Copays, surchargers and premiums. Also insurance charges. All of these amount to significantly more. The average citizen in america, would get higher taxes, but as everything else would come down, the average citizen would SAVE 2k a year. IT WOULD SAVE YOU MONEY. And no one would be in debt from hospital bills.
Im from Germany and what he describes is business as usual. If you are sick you go to the doc, maybe wait 30min and that's it. For free, med for free, if you need surgery, for free. And we pay half of health insurance per capita then USA. You have a sick system
That's because your hospitals don't overcharge on everything. In the US the blanket they cover you with will be billed for $700 and you don't even get to keep the blanket.
Antonietta Bombardelli Well Hospitals are still required to treat you in an emergency. But you will go into debt and probably need to declare bankruptcy after.
@@antoniettabombardelli8868 Hospitals in America are designed to make profit. I mean you can see that a lot of German hospitals are making a loss. But I think this doesn't matter at all, because your medical treatment shouldn't depend on your wealth.
Free Speech is a fundamental Right. Due Process is a fundamental Right. Healthcare cannot be a "Right" if you have to get someone else to pay for it. It is an entitlement.
+Snowcrest Except that those "fundamental Rights" aren't more fundamental than being healthy, since you generally have to be in decent health if you want to utilize them without relying on others to do things for you (with reliance on others being a sign of an entitlement according to you, apparently). How, exactly, do you take advantage of free speech when you have apraxia of speech or have been silenced by laryngitis or some other medical condition but can't afford the cost of treatment? How do you take advantage of due process when you can't even step into a courtroom because the medication that would stabilize your mental illness and make you competent is too expensive for you to buy? The answer to both questions is that you can't. If you aren't healthy then you need help from others, and if they don't volunteer for the job then according to your own logic your reliance on them means your "fundamental Rights" are mere entitlements. If the government owes you free speech and due process, then it also owes you as much health as it can reasonably provide through modern healthcare so that you can make use of them. Otherwise, free speech and due process are only for those who can afford them, and are pipe dreams for everyone else.
The government owes me nothing. The government must be restrained to guarantee my free speech. Prior to the invention of modern health care, people still had a right to free speech, due process, self defense, Life, liberty, etc...…..By your indoctrinated logic, if there was no modern health care (pretty much since humans have been around except the last 100 years) everyone was having their "rights" violated due to lack of health care, even though there was no such thing. Free Speech still existed though. Government funded (aka Taxpayer funded) healthcare is an entitlement. You do have a Right to negotiate a private sector health care agreement with a medical professional of your own free will. Forcing me to pay for it is not a "right".
Snowcrest You are seriously telling me that in the middle ages with absolutism, the inquisitions and all of that bullshit people's rights were being respected? I call bullshit. I'm not american, so I haven't read your constitution, but I know that most constitutions, and even the declaration of human rights of the UN stablish that humans have the right to live, that's a right, and not treating a life-threatening illness because they care more about money is a violation of that right. Plus, the ancient Egyptians had free healthcare, but not freedom of speech, just a little fact out there.
For any Europeans watching who don't know why this man is so impressed, look here on youtube for "Adam Ruins Healthcare". It's a clip explaining how American hospitals just make up imaginary numbers to charge people - big numbers. Thankfully those of us who live in civilized countries don't have to go bankrupt if we get sick.
yeah, in Europe you just get bankrupt by paying the compulsory health care insurance... have you ever talked to e.g. to students in Germany who sometimes really have problems paying the Health Care insurance? Most of the time, their parents pay but what if the connection to the parents is not so good? Or pensioners, whose already taxed pensions get decimated by compulsory health care insurance. Self employed people above 50 who pay 6-800 EUR per month to get a health insurance. This is also not an option, it is illegal, not to have a health insurance in most EU countries. I also had the same problem when I started my business with small capital and had to pay these insurance sums... that money had to be earned first... of course, as most people are not students/founders/self employed, they do not see the dark side of our health care system.... mostly, because the insurance will be paid by your employer... but then again, there are also family businesses with employees... for them, paying high insurance sums means also huge costs... also, if you are a healthy person in Europe, you will just pay into the system, without ever getting back any money or services ... how about that for "civilized".
LOL You just pulled that comment and costs STRAIGHT out of your ass :D what a complete load of rubbish! Not only do I live in Europe permanently and have lived in quite a few european countries I specialise in implementing HIPAA across medical systems and basically, you are full of shit - students taking government health plans pay a maximum of 80 euros per month, no extra costs, get cancer? no extra costs, get cancer in the US? unless your rich you are dead. Also the government student allowance covers the 80 anyway. pensioners? THEY DON'T PAY ANYTHING AT ALL. Idiot... Across Europe you will be fully treated with or without health insurance you will just get a bill roughly 20% of what it would be in the US. I am English I can be treated in ANY hospital across Europe free of charge. try that being AMerican
yes, I see in your comment that you are an expert in the field... this is how experts talk... Also, I see, you have no idea about real life situations. Yes, you are right with the student costs. In Germany, they pay around 60-80 EUR per month (probably this is about the same in the UK)... Now tell me please, a student, who might (!) have a part time job as a waiter, earning 400-450 EUR tops, has to pay the flat or the room, bus and train tickets, has to buy food and pay for educational materials as well, from where exactly do they have 60-80 EUR extra to pay health insurance? You oviously haven't been in such a situation (either because your parents took over your study costs or you haven't been in higher education... which would explain your commenting style...) And also: being treated free of charge in an EU hospital??? Seriously? This shows, that you have probably state insurance (I think in England it is NHS but I might be wrong) and also, you have no idea how insurances work. Well newsflash, that is what your employer pays you the insurance, that you are covered so you don't get an "extra" bill... this is how insurances work... if you have a private insurance (not state), you will be billed and your insurance company pays over a certain sum, the height of which you can decide. Sorry "mate" but I seriously doubt that you have anything to do with health care or insurances. If yes, that is very sad, how little you know about your own field... and also, this explains, why a complete nation could have been hijacked with stupid slogans on a red bus about the NHS system.... you probably still believe you are going to pay any extra money into NHS after Brexit... that is just so sad...
'this is how experts talk.' yes, it is - Thats my real photo, thats my real name, a few minutes research would of told you i am the COO who developed one of the world's most advanced health/medical/fitness systems so feel free to shove your passive aggressive rubbish right up your..... and yes, I am an expert ;) you are wrong about Germany, you are wrong about the UK you have been nothing but wrong because obviously you know nothing on the subject, you literally made up all the crap you put in your comment and now you have been busted you try to come back? get lost. You are not American from the way you write and you are not European yet you attack Europe and defend the american system with lies to start an argument... hmmm comrade i wonder where you are from.
well, if you are the COO of the "worlds most advanced health" etc. system, it is even more frightening, that you think, you pay nothing for medical treatment in hospitals... I mean, the important thing is, you have the title, you don't have to possess real expert knowledge... do you also have a fancy business card? Surely, you are an important person, then... and also, this is how you consult with your US clients? or how you give advice to your UK clients? Also it is interesting how you as the COO of a global company have so much time for trolling in RUclips comments... must be a very successful company. Could you please advice me which company this is so that I make sure I never buy sth from it? I mean with such a friendly and expert COO...
I'm an American from California but I've been living in Sweden for 16 years. The Healthcare here is second to none. Healthcare in Europe is a right not a privilege. Always felt like a privilege for the rich when I lived in America
+Nitte Cera begone troll ,or in the event your a neo facist , facist or in hiding religious fantaic kd member... no they ,wont there might be blood sweet and tears but in the end your either gona have the violent ones 'melt' away in the sea of the younger generations saying fuck that and joining forces with uss 'natives' ..or your gona have people saying enough is enough and building a second 'kumla bunker' specificly for those proven to be byond salvation.
I live in Germany and was playing American football with a 7th grader in Dresden. He had a rocket arm and I missed catching one and severed a tendon on my middle finger of the left had. I went to the emergency room there and the total cost 75 Euro for x-ray and doctor fee. The apparatus for to stabilize my finger was 10 Euro. When I returned to the US, I went to a "specialist" who took an x-ray of my finger and then made a splint out of a tongue suppressor. The treatment and diagnosis was the same as the German doctor, no movement for six weeks. Total cost for US medical treatment was $930. Total German cost was $85 Euro.
More I hear about the healthcare in the U.S the more concerned I am for its citizens, everyone should be entitled to a good standard of healthcare, rich or poor. Seems some people are sentenced to death as they don't have money for life saving treatment.
Quinton Bailey like Harley's k c employees they got tax breaks and are closing their plant and will soon have no jobs or insurance I'll be damned I don't feel tax money should give them unemployment right that's welfare them folks should take care of themselves duh
Oh I am too, I'm in the US for a year (voluntary service etc) on a ranch and it makes me furious to see that they decide to not go to see a doctor, even tho a finger was clearly broken or one got bit by a wild animal and decided to "hope for the best". That is a violation of human rights and I am so sorry for the people living here. It is just sad.
@@matthewmoselle9789 I am not an American Citizen. I've only been to the US on holiday. But I can't understand how you can hate your Country from birth. Surely the US has it's problems but so does every other Country in the World. There is no Utopia.
@@matthewmoselle9789 I would change with you! :D As a doctor working in Europe (I come from Czech Republic), you're not adequately remunarated. Living in Europe is fine but what I miss is the 'sense for freedom' as in America - If you work hard, you'll be pretty well rewarded. In Europe everything is much more egalitarian.
I’m all for free healthcare, but just so everyone knows, IF YOU ARE INJURED YOU WILL GET HEALTHCARE IN THE US! They will not let you physically die but they have no problem letting you die in debt. Also, a ton of hospitals do free procedures. Just wanted to make sure everyone was informed.
I also believe we have been lied to for years by our corrupt politicians. I am not in the States, btw, I am Canadian. Lived here all my life. Ours are liars too. But, if you think the US is exceptionally greedy you don't know human nature. Why not leave that exceptionally greedy place and find a place that is less so, bet you won't find it, oh and don't come looking here either, our government in particular is exceptionally greedy...should see our tax rates. The US is a fine place, better than most countries on earth. Now, that is no lie.
A lot of people are good people that dont care what is wrong. A lot of people are good people that just don't want to believe what they know is wrong. A lot of people are good people that don't understand what is wrong. Some people are good people that do understand what is wrong. And a very small amount of people are bad people that also understand what is wrong. And they are some very fucking bad people.
Us is just on the front . . Thats all . . The european health system is collapsing as we speak . . It just takes some time . . I m dutch 50yrs and remember the good times . . I pay e1800 a year and my own risk is e1000 pr year . . Furthermore they dont pay 100% of costs . .just remember for a nondutch person hospitals are nicer . .
Lol, we Dutchies get angry when we have to pay 7€ at the pharmacy. Normally everything gets insured but the last couple of years more and more meds aren't automatically insured anymore. So from never having to pay at the pharmacy we now have to pay more often. Most times we can still declare it back from the insurance company, but it's just a pain in the ass having to pay up front at the pharmacy and handling the rest yourself :P Funny to see you laughing at 'how little 7€ is' and we get angry because we have to pay 7 instead of 0 :P
Suzanne--That is quite an interesting observation. You get mad when having to pay for your own, but don't seem to care that you have to pay for someone else's care.
Do you watch FOX news or something? 70%? I doubt that even exists anywhere in the world. 90% of people pay about 20% taxes. And I do that with love, since I get to enjoy proper affordable health care and education.
I live in Canada- the idea of having to PAY to visit the emergency room, in the event of an EMERGENCY- that's so alien and dystopian to me, and I live less than an hour away from the border.
In Italy, 11 years ago my granddad, before he died, he was diagnosed with a stomach cancer. The surgery was around 5000/6000 euro. At the end of it, he has paid for what we call "ticket". 25 euro
Because you have absolutely no idea how insanely expensive those Treatments actually are. But you and all other citizens are paying for it through their taxes. Which is great...but do not think this is cheap.
I am living in switzerland at the moment and I get to see all the bills the doctor sends to my insurance (I have to approve them). Some things are expensive (like staying in intensive care), but many are not (like a doctor's visit). And the doctors fees definitely are not paid by taxes.
Well it doesn´t really matter how you call it...taxes, social security contribution, public Charge, etc. The Point is, that the whole Society pays for it. I´m from Austria and I know as a fact (I have a lot of MD-friends) that medical Treatment is insanely expensive. It´s just a question from what perspective you are looking at it. The whole health System in Austria costs a lot of Money not because of Special Treatment that is indeed needed is so expensive but because People go to the doctor for every minor bullshit. Why is that? Because they don´t really realize that this shit actually costs a lot of Money...and I´m not talking about a single doctor´s visit...I´m talking about a lot of People doing it. The quantity makes it so expensive. I´m still happy we have a System like this and wouldn´t wanna Change with the US System, but at least in Austria it´s cerntainly a mentality Problem. People think it is for free without realizing that they are actually paying for it through social security contribution.
The thing about healthcare is safety. Sure, you can go uninsured and have more money that way, but if something happens, you might be in big financial trouble. It might not even be your fault, just something needs to go wrong and the cost of fixing you up goes into the ten thousands. With healthcare, average people can just pay regularly into it, and if something happens to them, they're covered. And if nothing happens, that's the best they could wish for. It's called solidarity.
I’m Canadian and I used to sell travel insurance. It pretty much didn’t matter what country you were traveling to, it was the same price - depending on age and duration of the trip. However if someone was going to the U.S. it was a lot more, even if the U.S. was just a layover to the country you wanted to get to. It saddens me that so many people in the U.S. don’t have free healthcare - it ends up being a bigger drain on the economy.
I seriously hope that you guys can watch this and understand that health care is a good thing and a human right! ❤️God bless America but America, get your shit together!
For it to be a human right, means that you have the right to force someone to perform it. Which would infringe on their human rights. Hence, no, you can not have positive rights.
Timor Khanagov I'm struggling to understand if you are real or just pretending. All it means is that somebody pays for it, if you cannot afford it. Doctors aren't forced to work as doctors. They decide to do so when choosing the profession. In case of universal health care, doctors get paid by the government if government recognizes the human right to give health care to a person that cannot afford it. I hope this helps.
universal healthcare is such a good system for affluent countries. US citizens are getting conned by corrupted politicians in so many issues. US has the only government in the entire world that says climate change isn't real. They have the only government that says the way to stop shootings is more guns .And they charge the most extortionate prices for healthcare and education .
Here in Spain it's the same, you can pay for "private" health care. It is usually faster but it's actually not much better. By the way, I broke my hand and had like 6-8 x-rays and a plaster and didn't have to pay one euro. Of course, we all pay for it at the end of the day, but I'd say it's pretty worth it.
I live in Amsterdam. I was in Florida in 2015 and I, my wife and 3 year old all caught bronchitis. We saw a doctor and got antibiotics, decongestants and for some reason cortisone. Totalled over 6 hundred dollars. I’ll stick with universal health care thanks.
uh huh = same for me. I live in Canada. I have zero interest in travelling to or through or over the USA!!! If I need to I will fly via Japan or via Europe and middle east and Asia to get back to my home country down under.
Today i received a bill of 350 euro (430 dollar) from the hospital after laying there for 2 weeks being sick. One week on the Intensive Care, one week normal hospital. I was kinda sad to receive this bill today but after watching your video i feel i cheated society whaha. Greetings from the Netherlands (and feel free to visit us again!)
Keep in mind the best part about Dutch healthcare (assuming youbare a citizen) is that there is a maximum amount of 'personal risk' you have to pay a year. You can set it between like 350 and 800 euros, the higher you set it the lower your insurance costs. Lets say i set it at 500, and I break my leg. The hospital bills will probably be more than 500 euros, but I only have to pay 500. The rest is covered by insurance. Then if I also break my arm two weeks later, I dont pay anything because I already maxed out my personal risk. Going to a regular doctor is also free :D
Dance Artist . Yes...i agree. My own risk is €50 and i pay €170 every month. And everything else is free...inclyding my glasses. For the record. ..i live in Holland
I live in canada. We have healthcare for all, universal healthcare. I get a rebate on my taxes every year between $500 & $1000 depending on my earnings for the year. I was diagnosed with Colo-rectal cancer that had metastasized to my liver on July 26th last year. (2018) i discovered this because of severe rectal bleeding which happened at work and sent me to the emergency room on July 25th where I waited 25 mins to see a doctor. The emergency room doctor sent me to a specialist for a colonoscopy the next day. I was anesthetised and woke up and they said I had colon cancer and referred me to an oncologist at the local hospital the next day July 28th where they did a CT scan and an mri. Which showed them I had liver cancer as well. They took biopsies and refered me to a surgeon. On August 8 2018 I had colorectal surgery to remove the tumor. I spent 6 days in the hospital recovering. They provided pain medication and support in a room I shared with one other person (we became friends) When I recovered from my surgery I began chemotherapy which lasted 13 weeks, getting treatment every other week. I was prescribed pain killers, anti nausea pills, and anti constipation medication. When I recovered from my chemo I was refered to another specialist at another hospital where I Recieved another mri to determine the effectiveness of the chemotherapy. It had reduced my liver tumor growth by 67%. On Jan 31st I had liver surgery and spent another week in hospital recovering in a room I shared with a kind woman who also became my friend. Again I had a painkiller drip, subdermal painkillers, and was well cared for by nurses 24/7. When I recovered from this surgery I met with a genetic specialist who analyzed my DNA to determine the likely hood the cancer would return. Now I am back doing another 12 weeks of chemo and expected to make a full recovery. I have no health insurance except what is provided by my universal healthcare system, called ohip in my province and the total amount I will have to pay when all is said and done is $0.00. Needless to say I'd be deeply in debt if I was an American and I am pretty happy with our healthcare system.
No unless you were rich, you would be dead because your insurance company would find some reason to say you weren't eligible for chemotherapy treatment, underlying condition, unwarranted procedure etc. In America your no a person your a piece of machinery to keep the economic war factory going. If your defective they replace you with a new machine and throw you into the junk bin.
Can this really be the, ‘evil, socialised medicine’ that some Americans freak out about? I’m British and our healthcare system is state run and we love it. Yes it has lots of problems and is underfunded by the government but we pay nothing for visiting the doctor, the hospital or surgery. It all come out of our taxes. I took ill in Germany a few years ago and had excellent treatment from the doctor in the village where I was staying and paid nothing for it.
Your statement stinks of ignorance. People in the UK pay twice as much tax as people In America do. In Britain if people can afford it they will always have private insurance. If you are unemployed in the UK somebody else is paying it for you. In the US those that do not have any money are covered by public health insurance called medicaid and medicare.
Your statement stinks of ignorance. UK income tax is a little higher than the US, depending on your income, maybe 10% more, not 100% (if you are low income the tax is actually lower in the UK). And then when you go and have a baby and it costs you nothing, as opposed to $10,000 you don't mind the extra tax so much. "If people can afford it they will always have private insurance", This just isn't true. You can have private medical insurance, but a fraction of the people who "could afford it" do. Because the NHS is very good. blog.thesalarycalculator.co.uk/paye/tax/comparison-of-uk-and-usa-take-home/
The first two points are correct, and Brexit isn't helping because after we leave EU that is 500 million more people who won't be NHS nurses. The last point? We created the greatest health service on Earth - it's just that periodically the government tries to privatise it. And you do that by first wrecking it - by underfunding - so people think privatisation will make it better, which it won't.
So, if you get hurt or sick in the US, you can fly to Germany, get treatment/medication, stay a few days, fly back and it will cost you less than treatment in the US?
Dont do that, its very unfair to dont pay taxes but then going to Europe and take the free healthcare from the europeans tax payers... People is working very hard here
I think the point is that you would still pay for the care in Europe (so that tax payers are not involved). But the cost in Europe is so low compared to the US that for some things the cost of the plane ticket would be worth it.
To a child, healthcare in the Europe is absolutely free. Child birth doesnt cost you shit. To as, in the US, even getting a hospital bed costs you a luxury airplane!
Love how all the US patriots argue against European health systems with the "you pay more taxes" argument. Yeah, thats true. And I studied to an M.A. for free, my wife studied to an M.A. for free and while pregnant she did not work due to complications and got teaching hospital treatment and her full salary anyway (her employer gets it back from the state). I gladly pay taxes, so that other people can have the same. By the wayTaxes and social security contributions, healthcare etc. eat up 48% of my paycheck, a US citizen would be at 31%. Are the 17% more worth it? I am very OK with it and many others are. So do not be mad at us.
They wouldn't even really spend more money because the outrageous insurance premiums would be gone. They are seriously so expensive, I thought I misheard or something.
Carl Sassau: The US argument about Europeans paying higher tax for health care also falls flat on the grounds that in the United Kingdom, for instance, many don't pay tax for whatever reason but still have free health care.
People on benefits get their national insurance taken automatically, but yes, they don't usually pay taxes because the pay is bare minimum for survival - or below if you rent from private landlord or are paying off debts. Or have kids.
When someone says "Please, don't call an ambulance!" and tries to leave the scene with a broken leg because they would rather let it heal incorrectly than lose their life savings you should realise that the politicians who tell you that you live in the greatest country in the world just might be lying to you.
David Tucker Yes it dose happen in America I’m an example of that because I had a car accident on November 15 2018 I was hit so hard I cracked my skull on the steering wheel messed up my arm, had a really bad concussion lost all of my hearing for a few weeks, couldn’t see clearly, and couldn’t even walk. I went in a ambulance to the ER and I got a bill for 700$ luckily my insurance paid the rest of the out of the 2.5 k I would’ve gotten hit with. I was a college student working a part time security job making just enough to pay my school and other bills. I soon after lost my job cause I couldn’t work and I had to ask my parents for money just so I wouldn’t go into debt because of unpaid medical bills, between the cost of the ambulance, physical therapy and all of my medications there was no way I could’ve paid for it.This system is atrocious for the vast majority of people in this country we need to find better solutions for this issue.
@David Tucker *"No one is entitled to a free ride"* Why then are unemployed Americans entitled to free police protection? Free fire protection? Free defence by the military? Free access to libraries? Free upkeep of the sidewalks they use? After all if they don't pay taxes they aren't contributing to any of these.
Or better yet - let's shorten this to a single question - why is healthcare the odd one out in a nation where almost everything else has been socialised?
@David Tucker you are insane.
@David Tucker i'm serious, seek help.
@David Tucker Just because someone is poverty-stricken does not mean they are more likely to steal... The circumstances that they are put through since childbirth and so many other factors go into effect when talking about people less fortunate then you are, and that doesn't even mean they are less hardworking than you... Here in Canada, we have universal healthcare and it helps everyone out when someone gets hurt. You sound really closed-minded and your not taking into consideration all the factors at play when you speak clearly so have fun with a close-minded outlook on life you sheep.
it might actually be cheaper to book a flight from US to EU, get treated and fly back.
Non urgent medical care isn't free for American tourists.
gwishart It’s not free, but it would still be cheaper than US
I literally did it once.
Cours Anglais I want my 0.0001 penny that paid for it!
@@jamiemidge4983 hahaaa send me your IBAN code then lol. (p.s: Actually I paid for it, I am an EU citizen -where I pay my taxes including a yearly tax for health care card-, I lived in the US for couple of months where I had a private insurance for which I paid around 300$ per month yet, it didn't cover my issue. Hence, it turned out to be cheaper for me to go back to Europe for hospitalisation, then fly back to the US. Sad but true)
Europe --> Healthcare is a right
America--> Healthcare is a privilege.
It's a service.
@@edgarfriendly666 It's a service on both continents. However, in Europe healthcare is included in the "human right to life".
@@dansattah I should know, I'm european. However declaring something as a right means that someone has to be forced to provide that for you. So I hope you see the problem with that, you are not entitled to someone elses' labour.
Even beyond that argument, it just makes sense. A healthy population = a more productive one. Everyone wins.
mentaljedi maybe if they stopped putting so much money into military and police and spent it on education and healthcare we could be a better population.. maybe starting with the food.. so much sugar, sodium, fat, oils... this is why the obesity rate is so high here- also smaller portions
I am Italian and when I broke my finger I paid 0,00€ for a visit to the doctor and an x-ray. I am proud of being European. 🇪🇺🇮🇹
You're lucky to be living there!
tell that now lol
I‘m from Austria and I got in an Emergency my Appendix removed, Ambulance ride and all! Had to stay 4 days in Hospital bed! Only paid 53 € for my 4-day stay and that was it!
@@KatanBlack Wow!
Don't be proud of your privileges.
I'm European and when I told my friends I was visiting Las Vegas for a holiday they all said "Don't get sick!!!"
Just get an international travel health insurance policy, they're not expensive. Example: 40 year old male from UK visiting US for 2 weeks, policy for up to $1,000,000 with $0 deductible, $1,000,000 for medical evacuation back home if needed. Everyone is eligible. Cost - $84.00
John Montgomery Insurance aside, the experience of US healthcare is a miserable one. I was taken ill in New York. Fully insured. But treated like a criminal and waited hours to be basically abused by a doctor.
yes, don't get sick or get travel insurance from Europe, well worth it.
@@johnm.3279 Just go to the hospital get fixed, Go back to the UK, Don't pay the bill, They just write it off, Don't you guy's know how America works
In Canada, near the American border you can buy health insurance payed per hour, if you want to go across the border.
When Corona gained traction, European universities told students abroad in America to return their respected countries in Europe because the health care in America wasn't sufficient. They compared it to 3rd world standards D:
Turned out to be some good advice!
Portugueses universities told their students to bring friends and etc 😂
I believe the problem in America is not the quality of health care, but the business system.
Even 3rd world countries have better health care systems. I live in one.
@@bounty1402 Exactly... If you are looking for the best of the best doctors I am pretty sure that more than half of them live in the US (doesn't mean that there are bad ones in Europe... Just not the best)... I'd still choose the European system whatsoever, because they are kilometers (just a little sidepunch) ahead.
You know you're European when he says 60€ and you're like "that's too expensive!"
Lmao this.
Lmaoo trueeee
In pharmacies and hospital in France, almost everything on prescription is free and if not, you don't have to pay anything either because the pharmacist/the hospital will contact your insurance itself to get paid back.
The only thing we pay is the 25 euros appointment with the doctor on which the healthcare system pays back later 16.5 euros and your health insurance pays back the rest.
Marie Bambelle You know what, Americans usually say “There’s no free lunch” 😏 Your healthcare is free because you’ve already paid for it through tax. Nothing is free
Oululainen That's fine, happy to pay the taxes and have a solid healthcare and social security system for that. Where do the US taxes go? 😉
over 500$ for an X-ray? what kind of third world country is the US lol.
Bro we are just a business. This entire country is a business
Agree
at least, it can be WAY more depending on whatever they want to factor in.
@@HeylookbuddyImanengineerThatme America is a bunch of companies that pretend to be a country.
I live in a South Asian 3rd world country. An X-Ray costs about $4 BTW :P
It's mind-boggling to me how Americans think healthcare is a service you need to pay for but owning a gun is a right. A very backward country...
huntsman145 owning a gun is an important right but the people who think healthcare should stay as it is here are sadly misinformed
@@coleslaw8493 what do you mean "having a gun is an important right"?
Antonietta Bombardelli a lot Americans own guns. If we outlaw them it will just send more people to prison. Also protection. Disarming the working class is also bad.
@@coleslaw8493 strange law for an European.
Antonietta Bombardelli yep but America is a very weird country
In total he spent $122 rounded up, for convience, for an ER trip, two evalutions, 3 prescriptions, and an X-ray. You'd be looking at 1,000-$5,000 grand in the USA.
Why are people not protesting in the streets? They start protests for the smallest things but not for healthcare. I don't understand that.. now with bernie out of the race nothing will change while healthcare has become 40% more expensive in the last decade the US.
@@mentos93 Because older Americans have been thought that a socialist system which include health care is communism. after amercia so called won the cold war. which they didnt. they claimed that a socialist system is communism. and that have been drilled in the heads of the older Americans. so they dont want a socialist system they think the word socilist is a dirty word. so they are happy to pay thousands upon thousands of dollars for something simple. they dont mind to get bankrupt or kicked out of their house because they cant pay a medical bill. medical bills in america are among the highest debt rates in the country. so in other words they are brainwashed by their own government. and nobody have questioned it.
Five thousand grand?
And that's without insurance, as a foreigner
I went to ONE trip to the ER and after my insurance paid their portion I still owed almost $2K...I’d like to be accepted as a European citizen please lol
I am from Norway. I married a California girl and have been living in California for the last 5 years. I pay a little bit less tax here than in Norway but in Norway I would have 1st class healthcare, retirement, free university education for my kids, unemployment benefits, disability insurance and more included in my taxes. The retirement I would receive would be enough for a good standard of living, where I can travel the world for several months a year. Like my retired parents are doing now even though they probably made less through life than average of their generation. Me and my wife make more than average Californians but if we add health insurance cost to our tax we are already worse off then what we would pay in tax in Norway and the only thing we receives back is a terrible system of copays, deductible, not covered, in network and so fort. The European system is far better. Generally laws are made to protect the consumer, the normal guy on the street and not big money and corporations. I would pay my Norwegian tax with a smile on my face compared to this. This is why Scandinavia over multiple years have been ranked the best countries to live in with the happiest people. And yes it is a big difference.
Day care and college expense for two my kids are $400k, 100+300. I could buy another house.
Then go back to Norway if it's so bad in California.
I will, as soon as my family situation allows it.
@@kurtoskarson6778 Just an excuse to stay. We claim how much better someplace else is, but we just can't go there, yet. Obviously, where you are provides for you better then there. That's the real reason you're staying.
California + no national healthcare = current taxes of Cali
Norway + National Healthcare = slightly higher taxes than Cali
California + national healthcare = Taxes far higher than Norway
The government of Norway has far lower expenses than the government of US.
All you need to know:
1. Every industrial nation except USA has universal healthcare with heavy government regulation or fully socialized.
2. None of these nations want to get rid of the system. All have minor problems but the general populations don’t want to get rid of it.
3. In America most people hate the healthcare system - surprise bills, crazy tests etc.
Not even far right parties want the healthcare system gone, shows how good it is
Unfortunately the Liberal National Party in Australia (the current government) have had a long term plan (which they have regularly failed) to dismantle our universal health care system. But then our current PM likes Trump.
Universal healthcare cant be apply in USA cuz that suggest social equality
and its something that people can apply to every area in the life and that will collaps the capitalism.We all know that capitalism depend on inequality injustice and class devisions,something that all people in USA love so mach.
@@RodrigoroRex far right parties in europe are not that right when in it coms to economics.
@@MegaDixen that's because nazism is national socialism and fascism is pretty much the same. Far right in europe hasn't been like "yeah you should be paying your private healthcare" since the late 1800's .
I live in Africa,Ethiopia one of the poorest countries in the world but guess what we have FREE health care yes completley free no insurance nothing their are private hospitals with foreigner doctors which will make you pay but public hospitals will probably ask you to pay 0.75$
May I ask, with your country being one of the poorest in the world, how does it afford a free healthcare system?
@@srccde we pay tax and they probably use that money properly to help the people
@@lastchance1101 It doesn't really add up though... If there's supposedly enough funding to have free healthcare for everyone then I'd really like to know what your definition of poverty is.
S0urc3C0de: I suppose you’re American since you think free healthcare has anything to do with poverty. Universal healthcare is MUCH cheaper than the American system. People from the US are however indoctrinated to think it’s expensive.
@@rKhighlight I'm from Germany, thank you very much. I know how a well-functioning healthcare system works - I've been living in one my whole life.
Furthermore, after having conducted a bit of research, I found NOTHING about any healthcare system whatsoever in the Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia - the situation there is, in fact, described as pretty much the opposite of any sort of healthcare system.
So, either, this information is, for some mysterious reason, so well hidden that neither german, nor english sources provide anything about it at all, or my suspicions were well founded after all.
As an American that has been living in Australia for 9 years I can say that a single payer, universal, medicare for all system is NOTHING like what I thought it would be living in the US.
I got bit by a spider 4 days ago.. and settle down.. it's a white tail, known in the US as a brown recluse, so not even an exotic Aussie spider. Went to doc.. was able to see him that day, fit me in between patients. Got a couple of scripts, got a swab taken for him to send it off to test for a secondary infection and a follow up appointment next week. I've paid a grand total of $13.00 for all of this.
I had my gallbladder removed. The doctors visits cost me nothing, the surgery cost me nothing. The ultra sounds to diagnose cost me nothing. The wait time.. was about 6 weeks from the first serious attack. Keep in mind, after knowing what it was mine was treated with diet until surgery. I was not in pain and not a critical need.
Back in the US.. the gallbladder would have had me bankrupt. The spider bite would have me wondering how to pay the electric bill.
Ya, it sucks if you don't have really good health insurance in US. Even some "good" health insurance (that cost money every month) still leaves high medical bills.
@@kathleeninkansas1770 and yet most of you cant even afford even the most simple of healthcare. You are essentially a 3rd World country full of people that cant even afford the essential that is healthcare. Healthcare is not a luxury it is an essential without your health you have nothing. Everybody pays for healthcare in Europe so whats to disbelieve? It just works & its not extortionate. I would much rather pay for healthcare the way we do than the way you do. I'm reading even for simple medical care peopele getting charged $5k! How can that be right? Because we all pay in Europe brings the cost of treatments down. By your own comments my dog has better healthcare than most of you Americans! Thats savage.
@@kathleeninkansas1770 also sayes a lot about your own governent then doesn't it. We have had NHS here for 80 years now & yes there are issues but medicine is still free to us at the point of use even with our government
@@kathleeninkansas1770 no you would rather die on a dirty ood sidewalk someplace rather than have basic medical care. What a bizarre country youl live in!?!
@@kathleeninkansas1770 and yes it is actually cheaper for us because you buy medical care policies for healthcare that would otherwise cost you more than we pay but also therrs a double whammy here get this you are at the mercy of the health care cover provider so if you have suffered with a condition they are pergectly within their right to bump your policy up. Well that doesn't happen here in Europe.
My wife and I were on vacation in France a few years ago. She sprained her ankle so we went to see the local doctor, who suggested she have an X-ray in a local clinic, nearby. The X-ray, which was reviewed by a radiologist, showed there to be no break but it was indeed sprained. They wrapped it gave her a prescription for a set of crutches and some pain killers which we filled at the local pharmacy. The costs; €20 for the first doctor, €40 for the X-ray and treatment in the clinic, €5 for an anti inflammatory pain killers and the crutches were free. €65 all in. This all took less than two hours. I have no idea if this is typical, but, my God, it was great. We didn’t have to, but we gave the crutches back to the pharmacy, before we left. This is not socialism, it’s basic decency in a sophisticated civilized country.
I'm assuming you went to a private clinic, it would be about the same cost in Portugal.
@@maximusasauluk7359 He had to pay something because he's not european, its still cheap tho
If u would’ve lived there it would’ve been free
If it had been the UK it would have been free except for the painkillers, they analysed it and discovered that it was cheaper just to treat everyone than set up the tracing and billing systems necessary to charge foreigners/ tourists.
I was in Croatia hiking. I fell and broke my left wrist.
A rescue helicopter hoisted me into the chopper from the mountain whereupon I was taken to the hospital by ambulance.
After a thorough physical exam to rule out other trauma,( I am a diabetic and have a heart condition) my coles fracture of the left wrist was straightened and placed in a cast.
I went to the cashier.
The total cost was $20 AMERICAN dollars CASH‼️
All I had to show was my US driver’s license . I signed a consent form to be treated.
Passport not required!
It is a medical experience I cannot forget. The amiability and the gracefulness removed any thoughts that I was in “foreign” country.
And you have been to the "shit hole" of Europe... even there the health care system is better than in the USA ;)
Croatia is a great country, except for corrupt politicians.
They want tourists to come back and tell their friends about that great experience!
@@Perados lol croatia is not a shithole. medical care there is great. i lived in both germany and scandinavia and i still went to the private docs and dentists in croatia when needed due to them being better. they even have specialists that you cant find anywhere else in the world. even the most expensive doctors with best equipment on the market wont cost you a fraction of what it would cost you in the states.
@@MsMesem no, people there actually care for other human beings, apparently something the states has a hard time comprehending
The US is not a country it's a business.
So true... If the online store Amazon were a country it would be USA
The CEO needs to be replaced.
Well then the business is more powerful than every other country on the planet
""@@doublewidesurprise6016 it's actually a company called the "Fed" and if it was all that powerful you would be living in a proper house not a double wide!
I love my double wide
when you spend 600 billion dollars annually on the military but cant provide healthcare cause that would be socialism
this exactly.
Thats what you get when you (the US governemnt) want to behave as the "world police". All those money spent on the military budget would have done miracles to the US healthcare system! But make no mistake though! Its not the average Joe on the street that have made the US government into what it is today, but the asshole politicians with nothing else but business in mind! In most countires with a presidency, the people are usually forced to choose between the lesser of two evils. Just look at the last US election... Choosing between Killary and Dump is just about the same as choosing if you're going to shoot yourself in the left or right foot! In the end you'll still end up wounded. America could have been so much better for the people if its politicians only had wanted it.
Thought the same thing but then again who is gonna protect our asses when WW3 breaks out? German military is a joke, is not really combat experienced in recent times and has no nukes. Sounds good for idealists but when shit hits the fan somebody will need big brother.
Pew TheBIind That might seem like a logical train of thought. But when you consider that the second place for military expenditure is China with their highest annual expenditure sitting at 250 billion dollars and usually sits at 150 billion with Russia following as third with 69 billion dollars. 600 billion dollars annually is fucking ludacris. You can literally half that and still spend more than the closest competitor. Secondly I do not think that spending more at the military yields any protection from ww3 since usually the possession of weapons results in more violence rather than the contrary. Also considering the fact wars are fought differently now. Also with trump sitting in the oval office I would say the US is most likely to cause ww3 or at least another cold war rather than protect us from it. Anyways if you cant stay on top of the military game with 300 billion annually then there is some serious misexpenditure and mismanagement going on in the US' Military. I mean even cutting only a slight sliver out of that budget would yield a increase in infrastructure and healthcare quality and yank the US out of the 20th century that they seem to be so stubbornly stuck in.
+DynamicX Dude you are only scratching the tip of the iceberg, this is too deep. Anything overthere is profit for companies, the goverment pay the companies make. They need 10 000 cases of amunition, the country pay to private company who will charge big time and deliver. At the same time from this hudge price a piece will go for the one that sighn the deal whit this company, some for the topper in comand and etc. You can check there army is not that big, even North Korea got bigger regular personal than the US. ... well i lied here but the diference is like 1-200 000 people from a 1 000 000. China another example, got 2 times bigger personal than the US and still pay so much less. +Pew The Blind rember my words in the near 2 years there will be another economic crisis and again will start from the US(the dept) and when your country cant take more ... well then the shit will hit the fan.
I have to comment on this video. I'm from Europe, and I was in the USA for 7 months as a student. I had to go to the hospital for a very bad stomach pain with other symptoms. They took me to a small room with a bed and asked me what is the problem, then I had to wait. I had to give them my urine so they can check that I'm telling the truth that I didn't take any drugs. What? I never ever experienced something like that in European countries. After that, another two people came in and I had to tell them the same story (where I have my pain when it began and so on). After that, again, I had to wait for another two people that I had to tell the same story again and again. So, for this, I had to pay almost 2.000 dollars. Yes, you read correctly, 2.000 dollars. For nothing. After almost one hour of waiting and telling the same story, again and again, they just told me that I have to go to a specialist. And for this, they charged me 2.000 dollars. Fortunately, my European health insurance paid it all back to me. So yes that is my experience with the USA healthcare. It's a big joke, they charge you so much money for absolutely nothing, they even don't help you and send you somewhere else. If I would have something serious, I will be dead by now.
Eva J.
That's our "system" right there in a nutshell. And to the political party in charge, if you even suggest that you shouldn't have to deal with that, you're called a spoiled entitled millennial that just wants handouts and everything for free. It's sickening, it is truly truly sickening. It's such a relief to see these comments from other countries. I agree with people all over the world more than my fellow countrymen (and women).
@@AmbyJeans I think that you would improve your cohesion as a society just by doing It the way european states do: less sense of injustice, less violence and rage, this is patriotism: taking care of your people.
In Chicago, I'm a US citizen, and got charged the same for ER visit and they did absolutely nothing and sent me off as sick as when I came in
Sounds like you walked into my cousin Guido’s travel agency. It looks like a European clinic. They saw you coming...
Eva J.
Had similar experience
I am European and 80 euros seem a little bit too large as a price lol
Lupo Astronomico I’d say having to pay for anything is to expensive
if it in the usa, 3 time seeing doctor, 2 prescription and xray, that like 1-5k
He’s a foreigner to be fair, he does not pay the taxes idk if that affects the cost, however
He’s not an eh citizen so he isn’t covered for free care, of course here in Europe we care about foreigners so we still don’t charge the fuck out of them, just enough
@@MarkSmith-vo1vn I had been living in Italy, Spain, Germany and the Netherlands. Italians are stunned when we have to pay more than 10 EUR and if we take our health card (given to all citizens for free) with us we don't have to pay anything but prescriptions in EU as price is covered by our country, our homeless get treated for free, immigrants are treated for free so yeah, 80 EUR seems like a lot to Italians, we expect that kind of price after a 7-8 months hospital bed rest but only if your wealth is beyond some high threshold or you need some 1 in a billion like prescription (rare genetic conditions and such that have never been considered by the national healthcare system because, you know, numbers).
I spent 13 days in hospital, 3 days in ICU for meningococcal sepsis in Sweden, my total bill was US $195. That was for the meals and bed, and wifi. I'm not gonna pretend the meals were good, I'm fat so even if I had some choices, there were a lot of sallad, white fish and lean meals... Can't blame them there. And the wonderful nurses, since I was in -total- isolation, no visits, no nothing, brought newspapers and treats from their lunchroom. Sometimes a smoothie, sometimes a muffin. A late night coffee and sandwish. It was very appreciated. I had to pay an extra $89 for like 4 subscription meds when I left. And they fully compensated the cost of the Taxi that brought me home, since there was no busses late at night. I can't even stress how 5/5 I would rate it, fresh clean clothes every day, cleaners that looked like Martians in their suits... Still friendly and joking around.
Wow imagine being treated like a person… why Americans keep insisting on supporting on a system that isn’t built for the people.
Here is a fun fact. When my dad had an appendicitis at like 2 AM in the morning and had go into the ICU for over a week, the care he got was on par or better than what you said. His condition was so bad that he would not have made it in most places but here he survived with no complications. And the total cost for all of the days in the ICU and and ambulance and the very nice food he got was less than $1000 out of pocket. The rest was covered by insurance. Why would Americans support a system if it made everyone poor who used it? We have so many systems for the poor over here to have affordable Healthcare. Nobody is going homeless because of a broken arm. Thats what you Europeans don't understand. The Swiss Healthcare system is alot like America's too, if you cared to look into it.
@@mroof523 This is the dumbest shit I ever read. So he "only had to pay $1000" because a good health insurance... What do you pay with a shitty health insurance or none at all? I don't have an insurance, i don't need one. And did you just confuse Sweden for Switzerland wtf?
@@mroof523
1000 USD ..! Out of pokcet.
Insane
@@mroof523 I am Portuguese, I have a friend who wants to go to the USA, I am also wondering if it would be better or worse than here in Europe, and the Healthcare and workers rights scare me in the USA. What do you do if you lose your job because your employer feels like it? Does the government help you in any way or are you screwed?
In europe, when we hear you in the US got an accident (lets say you crashed with your bike) and you have to pay up to 5k for an ambulance and a medical team to pick you up, we don't understand how can you live in peace. I wouldnt leave my house, literally I'd live in a buble
I would scream at anyone calling for an ambulance i would rather walk on one foot home
@@dubstepforever99 true. It's like "if I call the ambulance now, I can say goodbye to my fucking car. Or I just try to wall home with a broken foot."
In the US when we hear of your globalised union we think you're crazy too don't worry about us well be fine you have plenty of problems of your own.
@@chrispetets3683 Ooh triggered Yank. This ladies and gentleman is a fine specimen...
Well, in Poland there is this obligation (when someone is old or very sick) for ambulance pick up such person to hospital even for a day to day care. Ppl can drive their own car but when the ambu gets for them its like they dont have to wait too much to be cared for in hospital, they go first bc ambu picked them up from home.
I don’t get how people can hate on countries such as Sweden for their health insurance and calling it “communism”. When a country is that rich and a greatly developing economy, why wouldn’t you have (almost) free healthcare. Here people who are sick actually get help and don’t have to decline medical treatment because they can’t afford a ridiculous amount of money for something small. It’s crazy imo
sweden is a lost country at this point.
fourroses foryou Why?
Germans dont appreciate their health care because its almost free, and because of that the doctor treat their patients within a few minutes not even listening to them. People here go to the doctors with just little things, and people who are really sick dont get the treatment they deserve
@@martinapetrovic159 oh yeah? explain why, cause that's one bold statement to make.
@@suhdude9775 what exactly do you want me to explain?
Free universal healthcare = something every 1st world country has (including some 3rd world countries) but something the USA doesn't have, for reasons only greed and corruption can answer.
I mean "free" isnt really true.
As a german, the normal workforce has to pay ~7-8% (the maximum is 560€ in total/mo if i recall correctly ) of there paycheck with the very same amount paid by the employer.
It is nice to have, but i think that it is sometimes being labeld wrong.
@@florian9540 Americans pay taxes too but seems like all the tax money just going to rich politicians and wars.
@@Cod4Wii I know that you pay tax haha.
What i meant to say is, that there is a dedicated SoocialSecurity Tax, which is split up into healtcare and 4 other branches.
By far the largest portion (~7-8 out of 14% (?)) goes to your health insurance company.
No middle man in between.
Btw, sry for my writing skills. Speaking is not a problem, but gramma and so on...^^
@@florian9540 Good to know, thanks..
Yup, richest nation on the planet should join the majority that is slacking behind, I guess they're ahead in everything for no reason and should just be like the rest
Its amazing to me how mindblowing this actually sounds to americans. I currently live in Spain, I had a seizure some time ago, my friends called an ambulance, the ambulance got me in the hospital, where they tested me for everything. I just had to show my EU sanitary card. Final cost of this 0€ (well actually 4 euros for prescription pills). Sorry for the euro-brag lol
I had to pay nearly 2,500 dollars for a a simple cyst removal, and my insurance covered the rest of the $12,000 bill, which I could have drained with an exacto knife at home if they told me ahead of time it would cost me the value of a car. But here in America you get really neat surprise bills when you get sick..
What is your life worth to you? How can we profit?
Ghadrack Potato that’s sad man holy shit
@@ghadrackpotato960 omg dude, i just do cyst removal too some month a go. It cost me about 100 in dollars, and im not insured.
@@zee9709 A lot of doctors here are scam artists and crooks. I got bounced to three doctors for a specialist referral, I paid a hundred dollars out of pocket in co-pays just to see the general surgeon.
Then he said he had to do the cyst removal in the hospital because it was on my scalp and might bleed a lot. Then where the bill went crazy is they used an "out of network" anesthesiologist during the procedure that ran up an extra $6,000.
None of which was explained to me in advance, just Surprise!!! Here's your part of the bill after insurance a week later in the mail. All for a hat cyst as big as a marble I could have jabbed at home.
That EU sanitary card is really a good idea. Even though my family has a private health insurance, which kind of speeds up things, I'm so thankful I live in Spain where we have public healthcare. Although it used to be better (cut budgets from previous governments undermined it), the professionals who work there and the system in general prevent many people from being unattended. I am thankful to all of them.
Feeling dizzy? Book a ticket to Europe.
It will be cheaper, apparently
edthejester I was thinking the same haha
Now it's not the good time!
feeling dizzy ? just don't eat fucking unhealty food u fat fucks in usa lmao
Cridge McKing feelings stay in your fucking country..
I am a Kiwi and I hurt my back at Munich (Germany) airport while rushing to a connecting flight with my husband (flight ended up delayed anyway). I was in agony. Within 5 mins a motorized medical trolley appeared and I was put on a stretcher and taken down to a large health clinic. I was immediately seen by a doctor; x-rayed and given pain relief. I received a wonderful massage; was given a container of anti-inflammatory/pain-relieving pills and then taken back upstairs in the medi-trolley. Whereupon they put myself and my husband into a car with flashing lights and drove us out onto the tarmac to the foot of the plane. I was then helped to board. I honestly don't recall that we paid anything at all. If we did it must have been a very small amount.
The Germans are soo efficient and wonderful friendly people. I love visiting there. In New Zealand and Australia where I currently live we have universal healthcare too (as does most of the civilized world). The US system is barbaric and morally wrong. Healthcare for profit should be outlawed.
"The US system is barbaric and morally wrong Healthcare for profit should be outlawed." Word!!!!!
Great example! Don’t understand how some people can argue against it.
But how are they going to give billionaires trillions of dollars in tax cuts and invade dozens of random countries and subsidise the genocide in Palestine and Yemen if people aren't ripped off and made bankrupt when they have a cold or they scratch their knee?
A few years ago, I had severe food poisoning in Hong Kong. It was so bad, I was puking like a waterfall, I had muscle seizures, I was doubled up and couldn't function. I was put into an ambulance and taken to emergency. I had no idea where I was, I was really vague and dizzy. I was still puking so hard, the staff put, what was effectively a plastic horse bag over my head, because I just couldn't stop heaving. The doctors got a little worried and took me to have an X-ray in case I'd damaged anything internally (it came out ok). They injected me with a couple of things, took blood tests and checked my blood pressure regularly. I was given a sort of set of pyjamas to keep me warm (I felt very cold) and was kept in overnight and given drips to rehydrate. So, some 24+ hours later I felt considerably better and decided to discharge myself to go back to the hotel. I was worried about the cost but when I asked what the damage for all this might be and they said, "Nothing" (as it was an emergency)! There are some very civilised countries in the world.
awesome story
Chris Powell those grey and white generic pj's we have here in Hong Kong? Love 'em! Plus the blue padded jacket if it's cold...glad our system was able to look after you.
BUT MUH FREEDOM!
Just America isn't civilised.
Yep!
European healthcare is a public service, the American healthcare is a business.
Spot on. 100%.
Summed it up in one sentence
Profezor Snayp As it should be. European healthcare is theft and extortion. Stealing my money to pay for other people. We should be allowed to opt out.
Don't forget other crime syndicates constantly stealing your money: the police, fire department, postal offices and public schools.
Sure, whatever you say... :/
Profezor Snayp The difference is that those are essential. I need the police and the fire brigade. Those services would not work privatized. The NHS would. Just don't take national insurance of me and I won't use the NHS. It should be my right. If you want to pay for the NHS then do so but I should not be robbed like this.
As an American expat living in Amsterdam for years....I appreciate how good health care is here. Even people who lose their job or are homeless get good care.
Why shouldn"t they get good care is the question Americans need to ask themself
Exactly: You loose your job --> unemployment insurance takes over your health insurance payment. Simple as that.
UK here. Last year I ended up in A&E (Emergency Room) on Saturday night, had urine and blood tests, was put on the drip and given pain killers, in the morning they did CT Scan to confirm diagnosis, then transported me in ambulance to another hospital in London for treatment. Gave me morphine and antibiotics that day and said they'll tell me what will be done next day as they wanted to see if antibiotics would help with infection first. Took a turn to worse, was given oxygen at night and Monday morning I was prepped for 1st operation, I was told I'd also need 2nd non emergency one later. I was in the hospital for few more days after operation, then was given a date for 2nd operation (4 weeks later), given all meds I'd need for another 4 weeks and sent home. Came back 4 weeks later, had another operation and was given prescription and told I'll need to come back every few months for follow up after.
In total I paid £9 - for that second prescription. That's all. I was off work for total of 6 weeks, had 20 full paid days off sick by my employer, one week was paid from my holiday(I was on my way to the holiday when this happened) and rest (1 week) paid half pay.
If it happened in US I'd be in debt for the rest of my life or dead.
WOW £9. Here in the US that CT Scan alone is about $4000 and the doctors love putting patients in them for any reason possible. And yes, you'd be in debt for a long time. Most Americans are one hospital visit away from financial ruin.
Im American and i wish my country had universal healthcare but we care more about guns. So sad
Guns don't have anything to do with healthcare and no your country doesn't spend more for the military/guns than health . It's your system that's messed up.
@@mariosmatzoros3553 pretty sure the us does spend more on military than health, I live In The us and guns are more accessible than good healthcare
@@johndoeswife5497 I can get a gun at the grocery store. But I can’t go to the doctor. That America in a nutshell.
@@skyest6799 I’m proud to be a part of that lmao
@@johndoeswife5497 I wouldn’t say I’m proud. But I don’t completely dislike it here
I'm a German citizen & our mandatory health insurance is valid for all EU countries. Since I frequently travel overseas I got myself "additional travel insurance" which is valid worldwide except for U.S. I often wondered "why not U.S.?" but now I understand: because the insurance doesn't wanna go bankrupt.
And that's why I cured myself from the need to visit USA ever... srsly, it's crazy... universal healthcare is not perfect (you Germans took most of our doctors and nurses but you pay them more ;)), but I'll take it anyway and I'm sure that I'll get the needed help when needed
There are slightly more expensives insurrances also covering the US, provided you don't spend more than x days (15 ? 30 ? ... I only needed it for 2 weeks so that was irrelevant) there for each year. It costs something between 200 and 300 EUR a year.
In Poland we had public discussion about making health care private, so you're wrong it's not mandatory. You nazis like everything unified
Ringeistvonmordor
1st In Germany health insurance is mandatory.
2nd If you don't want to get in trouble, stop calling germans Nazis.
+Ringeistvonmordor: Maybe you should read my comment again. Our German (mandatory) health insurance is valid throughout the EU - that's what I was saying. Btw. same goes for Polish & all EU citizens: if you're traveling through Europe and have an accident, emergency / other sort of urgent need for treatment, costs for you are covered. One of the good things the EU brought about. It's covered either by your home insurance in Poland, or by your host country (depending on the system).
Lived in England for 3 years and had a baby there too. Excellent care. It was so nice to work whatever job I could find because I didn’t have to worry about healthcare. That alone did wonders for my mental health and was the start of me changing from a conservative to a liberal.
Erin Farnes oh no being liberal means you think everyone should be able to come to UK to benefit. What then happens is what is happening now and people think they can come here illegally and abuse our systems. Esp our healthcare. Why should my parents, grandparents have to move down the queue for someone who has never paid into our system. Liberalism just doesn’t work.
@@annonymouse2853 firstly, being liberal means equality and freedom for everyone.
secondly, the NHS was made to provide healthcare for everyone who can or can not afford it, this could be a lone parent family or an asylum seeker.
thirdly, your parents or grandparents won't move down the list because healthcare isn't first come, first served (there ain't no list) - it is determined via priority and necessity, there is a reason why if you call the ambulance and you state you have a small headache they will ask you if it affects any of your motor functions and if it does then they will send an ambulance.
In the US, we don't have a "health care" system, we have a "health care about profit" system.
THats why we have the best doctors and the best medicine...
For those that can afford it.
Quinton Bailey I wish I could get them without having to put up mortgages in my house.
Quinton Bailey Thats what they told you.
Kevin Loughin That's what Jeremy Hunt is trying ti do to the NHS.
I’m Canadian, last year I’ve had at least 7 MRI visits, total cost $0.
Bullshit. I’m Canadian and know that is a lie.
I just paid $350 for an MRI in Jacksonville, FL. I have insurance, but it wasn't covered
Roger C my husband had cataract surgery in April and total knee replacement and physio meds total cost $0
You actually think your healthcare if free? You literally believe this doesn’t cost anyone anything and just accept that as truth. Canadian have just got severely dumb in my lifetime.
I can also say in my entire life there is not once that I didn’t have to pay for a doctors visit or prescription in Canada. But the years I lived in the USA my health insurance covered even the visit and prescription.
I am Australian, so it would be about $50 here.. I broke my foot when on holiday in the USA and it was over $4000 for the xray and the specialist to look at it, probably 3 hours all up... almost died, thankfully I got a lot of it back from travel insurance. Americans get completely screwed. Interesting story.
a country where all the people are healthy, is a country that could count on a efficient workforce, so what's the point to keep people sick in the USA when basic treatment could heal people so easy? still illogic and non sense ( of course , if you are a healthcare worker and manager maybe it could have one sense, the profit)
Nerfenstain aka / fucking liberal / …. I am American and I pay $150 a month for my health insurance, that is including X-rays , dental , simply everything . Where am I screwed ??
Dani mew Blitz, Bulgaria is one of the POOREST countries in EUROPA. YOU need to get X-rays of your brain , because you have some serious problems !!
martinko40 what happens in america when someone Who is born with a chronical illness turns 18 and have to get incurens by themself and not live om their parents incurense? What happens IF you can not afford those 150 dollars a month eventhough you work 2 Jobs but only make minimumwage? Sure here in my country we pay alot of taxes.. But I still can afford to live... And live over The standard.. Eventhough I am just an normal employee working at a counstructionsite.
Booxeen, $150 / month apply to me , because I earn MOORE than minimum wage . If somebody is born with chronical illness and is over 18 years old. he, like my son will get on SSI/ disability which is including health insurance for FREEEEEEE in USA. Also low income people / grand money recipients has medical covered by government insurance , which means it is FREEEEE to them . Where are you getting that NONSENCE, that in USA people are dying for lack of insurance ?? Australia ?? France ?? People who do NOT have health insurance are earning quite a bit of the money, so they can afford to pay for theirs own insurance . Some of them decided NOT to pay for insurance , which is their CHOICE !! However they are still will be treated like anybody else , but the bill for treatment will come later .
When my ex visited me in the UK he got sick and went to the urgent care. Examination, IV fluids, blood test, and painkillers, all of it free. He was like tiptoeing out like we were going to get in trouble for skipping the bill, he couldn't believe the level of care and that it was free.
Healthcare system in US is the biggest organized crime in the history of mankind.
You can argue that the US Military is.. US healthcare kill only 45000 people every year. But they ruin 300 million lives every year though, whereas the US military kill hundred thousands of civilians every year. Not sure what is worse..
You are right by the numbers but I do not speak about numbers. Healthcare and military are not the same category. Military job is to kill (for many reasons), healthcare job is to help.
So,there are to many people in US who died just because they did not have to pay for help by healtcare system. US healtcare system kills its own people,US citizens,people who work and pay taxes like everybody else in Canada,Australia,New Zeland,Russia,Japan,England,France,Italy,Spain,Germany...all Europe. Everywhere free healthcare system is possible (free because we/they pay taxes,so we/they pay it by paying taxes) and it works for decades only in US they say it is not passible and the most sutpid thing they say is that free healthcare is communism. :D :D I'm not sure that countries like Canada,AUS,England,Germany,France are communist countries. :D
It all depends on how you look at it. Why I said it is debatable. Both are horrible in their own right. Would you call a terrorist organisation an organized crime organisation?
meybe they use a fake x-ray app for phone :P
In Coorperation with the dairy and meat industry. The latter makes us sick and the first one uses this oppertunity to pump everyone full with pills. The documentary "What The Food" proves the insanely huge mafia behind it standing above the goverment, a must watch
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I lived in Spain and loved it! Later took my children to Spain. My daughter became ill with a sore throat and fever. At the Pharmacy, the Pharmacist asked me about her symptoms, just like a doctor. After I told her she asked for my daughter's weight and height and I was able to get antibiotics for her. Cost? $5.00.
Then, I got very ill. Turned out I had pneumonia. Cost for the ER doctor (wait was less than 5 minutes) x-ray and medicine was $70.00 total.
In the USA it would have been far more if we hadn't had health insurance.
Call it socialized medicine or social health CARE, what matters is everyone should have FREE health care. So what if we pay it in taxes from our pay check. We pay health insurance out of our pay check already. The big difference is what IF you suddenly no longer get a pay check because of a job loss? The company downsizes, closes, or you get in an accident or get seriously ill and no longer able to work? And can't afford COBRA?
No pay check, no health insurance.
But, through social health care, no one would have such worry, let alone the stress.
And stress CAN kill you.
Please, it is long overdue for the USA to become more civilized and caring when it comes to health CARE!
@Tim Blanks
She also had swollen glands. (Wasn't just a cold.)
I don't know if Pharmacies in Spain hand out antibiotics like candy, but doubt it.
What I do know is they are far better trained than Pharmacist here.
Based on my symptoms, the Pharmacist told me I needed to be seen by a doctor.
I did.
You should have been ill in Wales. Health care and medicines is free for foreigners (but not for the English!).
@Well Well What?
The funny thing is, the US spends more tax money per capita on healthcare then most european countries, on top of everything they spend privately. And in return they get no public healthcare.
Temper,temper!@Captain America
I'm a European and an American citizen, and I have lived on both sides of the ocean and had insurance in both places. He said an emergency room visit in the US would probably cost about $500 without insurance - SO MUCH MORE! I HAD insurance while living in SoCal. My son was sick so I brought him to the ER. They ran a standard blood test and then forgot about us for hours. They tried to give him an IV for possible dehydration but they couldn't get it to work. They had no idea what they were doing - they left us with the needle inserted but the fluid not flowing for over an hour. When I realised it wasn't going down, I had to chase them down. Someone came in and turned it on too much so that it hurt his veins and I had to run find someone again to stop it. They ended up asking him to chug a pitcher of ice water instead of just doing the IV properly. Real medical genius at work here. I finally checked us out after it was clear they were not going to do anything, had no idea what was wrong with him, and frequently forgot we were in the room waiting for them. As I'm checking us out, blood spurts like a geyser out of my son's arm because of how badly they butchered his IV. They get mad at me for his blood getting on their floor and give me attitude when I try to go to the bathroom to wash the blood off my hands. We go home exhausted with no answers and with blood all over both of our clothes. Six months later, they track me down to say that AFTER insurance, I owe them $1,000+. I contest it and explain what happened. I say I am not paying for a botched IV, a pitcher of ice water, and doctors who forgot we were there. They performed an investigation without bringing me in as a witness and THEY determined that THEY had done nothing wrong and that I did indeed still owe them over $1,000 - for absolutely nothing! They took money from my insurance and then still wanted all that from me. It's a joke!
litastardreams without insurance its about. $1300...that does not include medicine or procedures thats just for being seen
litastardreams Jesus man, what a shit time you had! Hope your son is better.
Jesus! Poor kid :(
You got a good deal, when I went to the ER it was $1500 before they even touched me. That was with insurance. I then had a CT scan and some pain meds, and in all it cost me over $4000 with insurance
On the wage I make, I'm quite sure I couldn't pay this bill if I were to get sick. How dangerous is it for a society when your population won't get the care they need because they might not be able to afford it in the end. If you go beyond the simple fact of the ethic of it, it harms the productivity and general health of your society. Even in an economical calculated point of view, it is counter productive.
That’s $90 for everything!!! Too bad we won’t have that in the so-called greatest country in the world.
It would have been pretty much free if he were a German citizen, which, had it all happened in Germany, would have brought the total to a 5 Euros deductible for the pain meds.
Don't be misled, in the United States the government runs the healthcare system. They just enforce monopolies in hospitals, pharmaceutical and insurance. They ban all competition, privatize profits, socialize losses and blame the high prices on the free market. This is a problem created by the government.
Just fly over to Germany and back xD Would still be cheaper no xD
Sorry to say this, but hamerica is the most hated country, for all good and valid reasons, and definitely not the best country...faaar from it...you don't even have freedom of speech anymore and you hate one another...hate other countries...downgrade another countries...invade and destroy cultures..you have become terrorists...I can't wait till this devil empire falls...
We're Number 1! In health care costs and gun violence.
I'm Dutch and I spent some time in the US. At one point I got a UTI (bladder infection) mostly due to dehydration (I wasn't exactly used to desert climate level water intake!) and had to go see a doctor. The clinic was completely empty and yet they made me wait 2 hours to see someone. I told them what I had, but they insisted on elaborately measuring and testing me first - after an hour of that, I peed in a cup, they confirmed my UTI... and charged me $400 and then later another $400 bill by mail. Wow. The US system is actually inhumane. Everyone should have access to basic medical care, efficiently and affordably, period!
Americans should start living their lives as if they couldn't afford a doctor... because most of them can't!
Its is all about profit in america. To the point that hospitals and doctors will lie about your problems and give you meds you don't need to get money. Children on anti depressants! Wtf?
Unnecessary tests another add to the profit.
The biggest issue with free health care is it gets abused. But it doesn't have to be that way. You aren't a perminant resident you don't get it simple as that but id rather have that than american health care. Its dangerous. No ones life is worth more than another and healthcare is something that no corperation should be able to profit from.
it was right of them to thoroughly check on you, although those prices...damn I really enjoy not being american
Everyone? even the criminals and the people who have never worked a day in their lifes?
Thats called Communism. MIddle class to pay for the Not-willing to work and criminals.
In USA everything other than HealthCare is much cheaper than in EU.
Food , Electricity , Gas , Petrol , Cars , Electronics , Tech , Houses , Rents .
Wait... a video with Germany in the title and no german comments in the Top? This cannot be!!
ZUGRIFF MEINE BRÜDER UND SCHWESTERN, ZUGRIFF SAGE ICH!!!
Wir sind hier!!
Schinkenspeckomat 3000 Same thing with no Dutch comments, it is eerily quiet...
I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU SAID BUT YES!
s a b r i n a It’s something along the lines of “Come here my bothers and sisters, I say come here!”
Nederland is beter
I'm an American and wish we had universal healthcare here.
hopefully one day you will, we have had it since the 1940s, I pay 29% tax in total for the country healthcare and pension, id be happy to pay more, our cancer patients pay nothing for transport, prescriptions or care to me that is invaluable, worth every penny
Amen
Glad to hear you got yourself checked out. I'm sure if it would have been $800 you might have decided not to go. I live in Austria but i'm from U.K (so technically I'm a foreigner) but I have the E-Card (European Social Card), I also had foot pains and went to my doctor. Didn't pay for the visit, got sent to the hospital where I had a consult, x-ray and medication. Think I paid €3 for pain meds. Then had to return for an operation. I ended up having 3 operations and 7 months paid leave from work. The state insurance which is covered by tax paid my salary for 7 months during my recovery, I also had 3 months of physio and paid the grand total of €3. I couldn't think of a better system. Everyone pays a % of their wages (the more you earn the more you pay) and everybody regardless of wealth, status or occupation gets the best care available. There's no way I could afford to pay 7 months living expenses and doctors fees when I wasn't working. I should have been in debt for about €10,000 instead I paid €3 and I got nearly €10,000 worth of help. I'm now fully recovered and am back at work, paying my taxes for either the next person that needs help or the next time I need help.
I work for a Dutch Healthcare insurance company and I have these conversations on a regular bases. People sometimes ask if they can get a refund because they didn`t use any care over a year. So I explain to them that their premiums were used for sick people, who did use (a lot of) care. But I payed €1200 - €1500 this year? Do you know how much extended cancer treatments costs? No? It could run up to several thousands of Euros, sometimes up to €50.000 or more. How are you going to pay for that? Ehh, That`s what I mean, I am happy to co-pay for that treatment for you if you need it!
@@Wichert74 Solidarity is great. I happily pay for other's needs.
European healthcare system isn't perfect but is sure is better than what the U.S. has. We should learn from what works in their system.
Completely agree. There's a lot of issues, don't get me wrong, especially if you're poorly triaged, but once you're in the system treatment is amazing overall. Hell, I'm in Ireland, and their healthcare is one of the worst in Europe, and o had about 20 specialist appointments last year for the cost of a GP visit, 65 euro. Basically, I needed to be referred and that was it.
@Mikael Jensen Bravo. Wonderful summary, carefully explained.
Your example of the trans-border undersea tunnel, "waiting in the wings", should be taught in schools and universities throughout the world.
Everyone from the Anglo-Saxon part of the world has reason to be grateful to your nation not just for modern examples but for enriching England's history with that short but important period when you provided it with rulers. I was thinking the other day about the wisdom of Knut. His demonstration to his fawning courtiers of the limits to his authority, when he "commanded" the tide to stop coming up the beach and it took no heed, was an example which might have sparked a more enlightened streak ... and even conceivably have helped England, 660 years later, to be the first nation to officially recognise everyone, including the monarch, as being equal under the law.
@Mikael Jensen Speaking as the citizen of another enlightened country (in some ways) I am delighted for you, and full of admiration.
It makes SO much more sense to use "paper money" to fund infrastructure than to loan it into existence in the usual way, which mainly benefits the financial sector.
We won't follow suit, because while a tunnel to our nearest neighbour would be a huge benefit to both of us, it would take two or three days to drive through it!
@Mikael Jensen You do realise there's a very active fault, the Alpine Fault on NZ's main divide, along the entire stretch where such a tunnel would have to come ashore?
Good luck designing a tunnel which could handle lateral dislocation, on either side of a single transverse plane, of 10-20m in opposite directions!
Couldn't agree more with your underlying thesis, though....
@Mikael Jensen Hmmm - let me guess: you're an American? (based on your evident belief that anything is possible given time and money)?
Well , I am from Spain and I had Covid.
I had to go to doctor, the doctor do a rapid test, after a PCR , and radiography and pills ( 8 December)
I was really sick during last two week. I couldn't go to my job.
Healthcare pay your salary when I'm sick
I waited more in emergency room, 30 min, and the radiograph 30 min more
TOTAL BILL: 1'25 Euros (for pills) yes 1 euro and 25 centims
Well , I am a citizen
When you pay taxes, it's natural to receive services with that taxes, it's the same call the police, firefighters or ambulance
And that's what a developed country does, it takes care of it's citizens. Merry Christmas from the Netherlands.
Living in Germany as a British citizen, my son was not well, he was rushed to hospital, we were seen in front of everyone, no waiting what so ever. They were amazing! Because my husband is in the army we paid zero.
Living in the uk, I’ve just had a knee replacement two weeks ago, I paid zero! That is the beauty of having a national health service! We pay a small amount out of our pay and this gives me no worry about being treated if I get sick.
Our health care is amazing! I wish American would see this.
That's a difference. When you have anything urgent and arrive in an ambulance you'll be taken care of right away or just anything urgent basically. If you "walk in" it's usually not urgent. I broke my foot once and although it really hurt I had to wait for some time, no problem there. I crashed my motorcycle and was taken by an ambulance, again nothing life threatening, just a few bruises, I had to wait some time before they did a scan, etc. But if you had an open fracture or something that requires immediate attention you'll be taken care of right away. Hospitals are notoriously understaffed so that's why you have to wait, nurses and doctors have to take care of many other patients at the same time.
So if it does not require immediate attention you'll have to wait a little. Also the emergency room / Notaufnahme does not really exist in the same way as in the states(at least in germany). Either you come in an ambulance (actual Notaufnahme) or you walk in, ask at the reception where to go and you'll be forwarded to the corresponding section.
Der Keksinator not how it worked for us. In Germany we walked in having come by car being sent from the doctor. my boy was only 12 months and was dealt with super fast and admitted. The care he was given was outstanding.
I happened to have just come out of hospital last week, I arrived in a&e (the ER if you’re American), waited 10 mins and was sent through and seen by a doctor. This is in the UK, our health service is amazing. Gets bad press because of lack of government funding but we are so lucky. Very over stretched but we make it work. No one is turned away, and everyone is looked after.
One thing is, if you fall ill while visiting the uk you won’t have to be paying out for a bill to be seen by a doctor or to have an X-ray. You may have to pay for your medication though, otherwise it’s free, and fantastic!!
Well that is the point. To take the worries about such things. Constantly having to worry if you could afford treatment for your kid? That is a horrible thought. No one should live with that damocles sword above their head.
Taxes saved my life. I nearly died one time: I was 3 weeks in a coma. I was attended to by 3 specialists, a round-the-clock team of critical care nurses & a gauntlet of blood tests & cultures, lumbar punctures, x-rays, CT scans, & full life support including renal dialysis. Even after another 3 weeks recovering on the ward, I was still discharged without a bill. I even got free medical consultation & physiotherapy throughout my recovery. Medications totaled around $100 over the entire duration. I lived to go back to work in order to pay my taxes so that someone else can benefit from the same healthcare I had. That was really the only debt I owed. I hope my taxes have gone to help save someone else's life. It's only fair. A well funded public health system is the best form of health insurance a society can buy.
Der Keksinator .
"People should be able to afford going to the doctor's"
literally all of the civilized world besides america: ok sounds reasonable
america: but DATS *COMMUNISM **_REEEEEEEEEEEEEE_*
what?
Becoming?
except Russia China north korea and actual third world craphole countries which honestly we are well on our way to becoming.
Are you part of the 9.y.o squadfam ?lol "brofist"
Electroflame 618 funny but *_I N C O R R E C T_*
If you had to wait 30 minutes in the urgency room, it's because they checked with you when you came in and a sprained or broken foot is not prioritary. When I went there beliving I had an heart attack I was in front of a doctor in less than 2 minutes.
I’d hate to go to a hospital where the first thought of the doctor is how much it’s gonna cost ,and refuse care if not covered. Capitalism is ok except for education and healthcare both should be a human right
Broke my leg completely skiing in Sweden. Ambulance, 2 x-rays, surgery inserting a titan rod in my leg, 4 days in hospital, prescription drugs and meals at the hospital. Total cost for me as a Swedish citizen.. 45 euros.
America believes that they have the best of everything. They do not. The American arrogance will continue to make it a second rate country.
I am an American citizen who worked for 35 years as a floor nurse in an inner city hospital I can tell you we do have the best of everything especially healthcare vs any other country bar none. I have had the pleasure of working with doctors from all over the world and to recap I will tell you that in many parts of the EU their surgeons autoclave surgical sponges -in other words to save money the blood soaked sterile gauze pads that are put into patients for soaking up blood during surgery are rinsed off and sterilized to be used again for the next patient. Many who find they need a surgical intervention within a few days and sometimes sooner are given a script so they or their family members can pick up the surgical kit to be used during the procedure. We have had people come from all over the world to have something fixed that would have been done right here much earlier to prevent many of the things Ive seen. I assisted an Indian doctor who performed a tracheostomy on an alert and awake woman with no numbing of the area bc he felt it was her karma to have to go thru that and feel it and have had much similar things like that with other foreign practitioners. Health care is not free here in the US but we are free to pick and choose who and where we want to go and we do have welfare and free care areas in my city that take care of the poor with doctors and nurses who volunteer with their free time. No second rate country here just some good hard working people who get a bad rap by the socialist agenda who are jealous of our freedoms.
Tony Tudi You sound like an ignorant tosser, but then again, you undoubtedly are.
Matt I WBA your fuck head response says it all. Your recreational outrage tells me you need a safe space.
Nino Monaco If you could read, you'd know I wasn't responding to you, but to the ignoramus who originally replied to your comment. But thanks anyway for the insult when I was basically defending you. Idiot.
Matt I WBA ha ha sorry man comment was intended for our mutual friend cheers
Funny thing is that Americans say that European countries are socialists. Nope they are capitalistic countries just like the USA but they have some vital aspects of society that are not for sale. Healthcare for example. It is funded with taxes, of course it’s not free, but those taxes are maybe 200-300 euro per month. A good health insurance in NYC costs $1000 and you are not even covered 100%. They pay much more to get less. In any case in Europe there are public and also private hospitals and specialists so you have freedom of choice. The good part is that privates have competition from public system so unlike in the US they can’t charge astronomical bills. In the USA privates have no competition, they all agree to increase prices every year, it’s a mafia.
Few years ago my son got sick and I didn’t have insurance thru my employer at the time because it cost $300 dollars monthly and I was already not making much. He didn’t get sick much so I decided to not get it. Well, he got very ill and was in the hospital for weeks. After we were discharge the bills started arriving, the total amount of the hospital stay was 119k up until this day they have not seen a penny from me because I just don’t have the money to pay so that went to my credit. I can’t buy or have anything of my own because of that. If you don’t have good credit here you can’t buy nothing (car, house, etc) so go figure...the American dream? More like nightmare!
It's terrible what you say. I´m sorry. You have to do everything you can to change that in your country. It does not make any sense and it is unfair that the richest country in the world does not have enough to take care of the health of its citizens. It is an authentic shame.
So sorry
Isa -- that is horrible. I don't know if you are aware that you can negotiate with the hospital before they send it out for collection. They would rather not send it to collection because of the cost of that. They have their own in-hospital collection department. I don't know if it's too late. Get some advice. You tell them -- this is ALL I have -- 5000 for instance. I will give you this when you send me a letter that this will pay my account in full -- you have to get the promise in writing because they will take your 5000 and you will still owe 114,000. They would rather have something than nothing. I don't know if 5000 is enough to close it but you get my drift. It's outrageous but that's how it is until America wakes up and the Congress starts working for all the people, not just a few.
Ntakovac J I was not aware of that. Thank you for letting me know. Is been a few years now but I am planning on fixing that in the upcoming months. Thank you so much for that information. It is sad that we have to go thru that. The so call richest country in the world rips us off like this.
Ladyloca I agreed, is such a shame and so unethical.
You Healthcare experience in europe, summed up Short:
YOU HAD ONE!
lol when people in Europe go to the hospital they worry about their illness. Meanwhile when I go to the hospital I'm like is this pain worth the $6,000 bill I will get after.
@@alexandercrush I always thought that was the best thing about it.
Mother, grandfather, etc. have been in IC.
Money wasn't a concern at all.
Healthcare, exists
American:"wait, that's illegal"
That is north korea and communism mixed together
80 Euro thought that was pretty expensive tbh haha
Heard someone pay 4000$ in the US for x-ray and specialist to look at it.
@@dubstepforever99 i heard it's like $5k if you call an ambulance
4000$ wtf?!
In austria its about 30 damn 80 is sick xD
@@Andreas-pj6np Last time I paid 15€ for emergency x-ray in Latvia a while back. 80€ is nuts.
Healthcare in Europe is seen as a fundamental human right, after all if one doesn’t have ones health one has nothing.
It’s rather sad to see a country which allows profiteering from suffering. Turning someone’s misery in dollar bills. What’s worse is it’s actually inefficient, resulting in higher costs in the US compared with Europe.
Kinda sad socialism is such a dirty word in the US, you’ve been duped friends.
indeed
ah so the conclusion is that in your youth was no government???
We have the healthcare foundamental human right,you have the foundamental Second Amendment ...different priorities ...
@mike a the problem is conservatives who bow down to their overlords in the big pharma industry, and the stupid idiots who vote for them, like yourself.
@@justitas3392 You democrats are soooo boring. Nobody believes your shite anymore Get a (logical) life.
Trump 2020 baby!!
for an European standard paying 25 euros to the GP and 80 in the Hospital is a rip off. It s usually all free.
Andrea Agosti for citizens or ppl with insurances which he isn‘t and hasn‘t.
America is like the child who won't come out of his room because he thinks that by staying in there he is somehow punishing his parents. He doesn't understand that his parents are happy to let him stay in there with his own misery and stubbornness because he is only hurting himself. Unfortunately, this ideology is dragging the rest of us down with it.
Well said!
The parents are France and the UK
@@lordcharles9786 Yeah, and any other Western country that has implemented socialized medicine with any modicum of success. Granted, in the United States it would be a daunting challenge, more so than anywhere else. But you've got to start somewhere if any progress is to be made. It's no use covering your eyes and ears and pretending nothing can be done.
Lmao this is the best
@@stonesforlife4267 The cost of medical care in the United States is insane. A couple years ago I went to emergency with chest pain. I try to avoid going to ER, but I couldn't stand the pain. They took an X-ray and I talked to the doctor for five minutes and he gave me over-the-counter anti inflammatories. The bill was $2500!!!
Some friends of mine had a motorcycle accident a few years ago and their auto insurance would only cover up to $25,000. They were in the hospital three days. They owe $100,000 in hospital bills beyond what their insurance paid. It's sad because they're a young couple with a kid and they're stuck in a tiny apartment and struggling because of their medical bills. Crazy thing is the husband is a hardcore conservative and is still against single payer because it's "Socialism." He's what's wrong with American healthcare. Some people will cut off their nose to spite their face. So many people would have better opportunities if they weren't suffocating from doctor bills.
As an English person it always shocks me to hear any money being involved in healthcare but then I realise that things like even a couple hundred euros is ridiculously cheap for Americans. So strange how they stand for that.
You do realise that an American would have to pay for hospital care in the UK?
@@JohnHughesChampignyI do. Nothing about my comment is changed by that.
I was trying to express the difference in me thinking that any money involved is a scam whereas an American being relieved to only have to pay an amount that would ruin my month, if not year, if I had that bill.
This is such a great video. I'm so happy you had a good experience in both the Netherlands and Germany. I have lived in both countries (originally from Canada) and they're great. In Amsterdam, I would call my doctor to make an appointment and she'd be like, come in half an hour...or come in the afternoon. It was ALWAYS the same day. Doctors in NL/DE are way more hands on than in Canada. They really know how all the nerves, ligaments, muscles, etc are connected and will use touch and sight to see what's going on. In Germany, the most you can pay for a prescription is 5 eur per prescription. So if I got antibiotics and a painkiller it would be 10 eur total.
Here's the thing Americans won't like though, in Germany my family is in the highest tier for income and so our total amount for health insurance is about 400 eur/month. That's because we make a lot of money, so we're paying for poorer people. We are 100% fine with this. We are very lucky and have no problem knowing that we are helping someone else pay for their insurance. Americans would freak out about that. It's very sad.
Crystal Franke-Carlisle In doing a conversion in my head, that’s around or a bit above the high tier of American health insurance per person. And you pay that for your entire family? Holy hell... that goes to show how much private for-profit companies cost to operate.
Remember that if you have an emergency an ambulance ride can easily cost something like 4000 euros if you had to pay for it yourself (which you obviously don't) and that would only be to even get to the hospital. So paying 400 euro/month isn't as bad a deal as you make it seem.
autohmae no, it definitely doesn't cost that much. In Germany it's about 500 EUR +- and can be partially covered by insurance.
I've seen bills of ambulance rides in Germany they can be that expensive. Obviously if you are European you won't have to pay for it yourself.
autohmae so what's the problem?
Guys, social and socialism isn’t the same thing....
Don't listen to him, he's trying to bring back the USSR and communism.
Gustav W aren’t*
@@freekdomburg6081 you need a docter, ah you probably can't pay that
@@freekdomburg6081 I wish Americans would learn the difference between Communism and Socialism. Communism is what China has - one Government - no vote. Whether you like it or not, socialism exists in EVERY country - it's just at different levels and different areas. Do you pay tax to the Government? You DO have socialism in your country. Do you have police paid by public money who protect all citizens? You DO have socialism in your country. Do you pay ANY money into ANY type of communal pot that benefits all, or many, people? You DO have socialism in your country. Even the expensive insurance you pay is a form of socialism - and ARE you DEFINITELY paying for other people's medical bills with insurance, but you are also paying for very rich people to maintain their rich lifestyle. Socialism is ANY type of shared resource, including military. America has MASSES of socialism with respect to its military - the military is a socialist construct. But Americans apparently don't see military and Governments as socialist institutions. The difference is where, and on what, a country chooses to spend the money put into that communal pot. Most countries spend most of that money on health care and education. America spends the vast majority of that money on military, and uses propaganda to teach their society that spending money on military instead of health care and education for the masses is good. Sadly, many generations of this propaganda has brainwashed American citizens into believing that money placed into communal pot to benefit poorer, or the general population, is labelled as "Socialism" and money collected for the communal pot that benefits the rich is not labelled socialism. Secondly, they are indoctrinated into believing that "Socialism" is bad, without actually being taught what "Socialism" means at all! It's bizarre, and extraordinarily sad! If you ask the average American to describe exactly what Socialism and Communism actually mean and to list the differences between the two, almost none of them can explain. It's so much into their psychology that the belief is like breathing and native language acquisition - it's automatic, and anyone can do it. As a result, America is a declining country, imploding upon itself. This Coronavirus might actually be the straw that really breaks it. I feel very sad for American people...
@@freekdomburg6081 I'm surprised no-one realised that your reply is a joke.
USA - I went to the emergency room once for a sinus infection, i knew without a doubt thats what i had. So after waiting around for the Doctor to come he touches my face and says yes you have sinus infection and then wrote me a prescription.
How much was that bill?
600 fucking dollars.
I told them i would pay them like 80-100 and they would never get the rest lol. Ill be damned if im going to pay 600 for someone touching my face once. I already knew what i had and all i needed was a prescription in the first place.
Omg sad :(
$600 for Emergency room :O. You are so lucky. Usually they charge $1,500 at the minimum.
In the UK that would cost £9.15, the cost of the prescription. You would probably have waited longer but a sinus infection is just an inconvenience not life threatening so no rush. You can buy private healthcare in the UK which is comparatively cheap and if you end up in an NHS hospital rather than a private one they pay you to be there.👍👍👍
An ER for a fucking Sinus infection????
Peaceful Music Yeah that is kind of weird. It’s obviously not an emergency. Could have easily gone to urgent care or a family doctor and paid $40.
In terms of healt care American citizens are in a very poor situation... I’m glad and proud to be German. 🇩🇪
@Captain Brandon Horror Lover Over 400 years ago? You do realize that the United States haven't even yet existed for 250 years, right? So what exactly are you referring to?
The problem with nationalism (or even patriotism) is that it really quickly turns into a sense of superiority and once that's established, people are just too proud to let go of it and admit that their country/culture/religion is not the best at everything after all.
@Captain Brandon Horror Lover Well, I'm German. I certainly don't need to tell you what we sometimes still have to deal with.
Whilst you could say that my parents were rather "close" to these events; in reality, when they were born, the Federal Republic of Germany had already celebrated its 10th anniversary.
But yeah, I figured you didn't really mean 400 years ago... I simply couldn't refuse to be the little b*tch pointing it out 😬
Anyway... yeah, I agree with you. Most of the problems people had or have with each other are based on the incomprehension of something different. All animals naturally fear what they don't know, however, us being human beings, we do have the mind to see and understand another perspective. Simply refusing to do so (which is essentially what nationalists do most of the time) is just a sign of lower intelligence, or outright stupidity, in my not so humble opinion.
This has been my experience too. I have lived in Germany and Japan. Those are CIVILIZED countries that don't believe health care is a luxury that only the rich should be able to afford. I remember when I took my Japanese wife to America and after a hike, she noticed a tick had embedded itself in her shoulder. She insisted a doctor remove it because "that's who does it in Japan." Well, it was 10:00 pm, so the only choice was to go to an emergency room. To make a long story short, getting a tick removed and an antibiotic shot cost us $480, I kid you not. We had Japanese travel insurance which later reimbursed us, but still, that was just an outrageous amount of money to get a tick removed. In Japan or Germany, it would have cost $15 max.
actually it would have been for free - at least in germany xD
I've had one removed by my local vet once. It was late and the closest hospital is 30 minutes away. I took a chance since she had already removed a couple from one of my dogs.
She asked me how long ago I was bitten. It was only a couple hours before so the risk of infection was minimal. She put some gloves on, pulled out forceps out of a sterile bag and promptly twisted it out. A couple minutes in and out and no charge.
I'm in Canada so it still would not have cost much anything but I was happy not to have drive and wait at a hospital.
Free in the UK.
I had a tick removed when I was on holiday in Austria. I´m danish, and had my danish insurance card with me. The doctor (private praxis) didn´t charge a dime or asked for my insurancecard. I guess the cost filling out the paperwork, would cost more then the procedure
10$ in Sweden, free under 24
When I realised that I was in the US with no medical insurance, I took a great deal of care. Being European I am used to my medical card which gives me access to free or subsidised care!
It's not FREE but paid for in taxation elsewhere by taxpayers.
Because we used to free health care if you travel in EU and you need go to hospital it's almost free.
Humanity, including Americans, has a responsibility to itself. The US is the only country which hasn't learned that healthcare and equality should be a given paid for by everyone, for everyone.
Spam Mouse The total amount of taxation, however, is vastly less than US premiums, co-pays and other surcharges. Amount of dollars spent per unit of health is just less in single payer or heavily government controlled systems. This while care and health outcomes are almost always as good or better than in the US.
Read the post above yours. Copays, surchargers and premiums. Also insurance charges. All of these amount to significantly more. The average citizen in america, would get higher taxes, but as everything else would come down, the average citizen would SAVE 2k a year. IT WOULD SAVE YOU MONEY. And no one would be in debt from hospital bills.
Im from Germany and what he describes is business as usual. If you are sick you go to the doc, maybe wait 30min and that's it. For free, med for free, if you need surgery, for free.
And we pay half of health insurance per capita then USA.
You have a sick system
That's because your hospitals don't overcharge on everything. In the US the blanket they cover you with will be billed for $700 and you don't even get to keep the blanket.
@@alexandercrush Are you serious? All that money for a blanket?! So if you're a poor or even clochard, you die?
Antonietta Bombardelli Well Hospitals are still required to treat you in an emergency. But you will go into debt and probably need to declare bankruptcy after.
@@alexandercrush my god... This is not human, it's barbaric! Your system lets people die!
@@antoniettabombardelli8868 Hospitals in America are designed to make profit. I mean you can see that a lot of German hospitals are making a loss. But I think this doesn't matter at all, because your medical treatment shouldn't depend on your wealth.
Taking care of each other is not communism, it is caring for my countrymen and fellow human beings.
Welcome to the real world.
Health care is a fundamental right, not a get rich scheme for the medical profession.
spoken like a true liberal.
Free Speech is a fundamental Right. Due Process is a fundamental Right. Healthcare cannot be a "Right" if you have to get someone else to pay for it. It is an entitlement.
+Snowcrest Except that those "fundamental Rights" aren't more fundamental than being healthy, since you generally have to be in decent health if you want to utilize them without relying on others to do things for you (with reliance on others being a sign of an entitlement according to you, apparently). How, exactly, do you take advantage of free speech when you have apraxia of speech or have been silenced by laryngitis or some other medical condition but can't afford the cost of treatment? How do you take advantage of due process when you can't even step into a courtroom because the medication that would stabilize your mental illness and make you competent is too expensive for you to buy?
The answer to both questions is that you can't. If you aren't healthy then you need help from others, and if they don't volunteer for the job then according to your own logic your reliance on them means your "fundamental Rights" are mere entitlements.
If the government owes you free speech and due process, then it also owes you as much health as it can reasonably provide through modern healthcare so that you can make use of them. Otherwise, free speech and due process are only for those who can afford them, and are pipe dreams for everyone else.
The government owes me nothing. The government must be restrained to guarantee my free speech. Prior to the invention of modern health care, people still had a right to free speech, due process, self defense, Life, liberty, etc...…..By your indoctrinated logic, if there was no modern health care (pretty much since humans have been around except the last 100 years) everyone was having their "rights" violated due to lack of health care, even though there was no such thing. Free Speech still existed though. Government funded (aka Taxpayer funded) healthcare is an entitlement. You do have a Right to negotiate a private sector health care agreement with a medical professional of your own free will. Forcing me to pay for it is not a "right".
Snowcrest You are seriously telling me that in the middle ages with absolutism, the inquisitions and all of that bullshit people's rights were being respected? I call bullshit.
I'm not american, so I haven't read your constitution, but I know that most constitutions, and even the declaration of human rights of the UN stablish that humans have the right to live, that's a right, and not treating a life-threatening illness because they care more about money is a violation of that right.
Plus, the ancient Egyptians had free healthcare, but not freedom of speech, just a little fact out there.
For any Europeans watching who don't know why this man is so impressed, look here on youtube for "Adam Ruins Healthcare". It's a clip explaining how American hospitals just make up imaginary numbers to charge people - big numbers.
Thankfully those of us who live in civilized countries don't have to go bankrupt if we get sick.
yeah, in Europe you just get bankrupt by paying the compulsory health care insurance... have you ever talked to e.g. to students in Germany who sometimes really have problems paying the Health Care insurance? Most of the time, their parents pay but what if the connection to the parents is not so good? Or pensioners, whose already taxed pensions get decimated by compulsory health care insurance. Self employed people above 50 who pay 6-800 EUR per month to get a health insurance. This is also not an option, it is illegal, not to have a health insurance in most EU countries. I also had the same problem when I started my business with small capital and had to pay these insurance sums... that money had to be earned first... of course, as most people are not students/founders/self employed, they do not see the dark side of our health care system.... mostly, because the insurance will be paid by your employer... but then again, there are also family businesses with employees... for them, paying high insurance sums means also huge costs... also, if you are a healthy person in Europe, you will just pay into the system, without ever getting back any money or services
... how about that for "civilized".
LOL You just pulled that comment and costs STRAIGHT out of your ass :D what a complete load of rubbish! Not only do I live in Europe permanently and have lived in quite a few european countries I specialise in implementing HIPAA across medical systems and basically, you are full of shit - students taking government health plans pay a maximum of 80 euros per month, no extra costs, get cancer? no extra costs, get cancer in the US? unless your rich you are dead. Also the government student allowance covers the 80 anyway. pensioners? THEY DON'T PAY ANYTHING AT ALL. Idiot... Across Europe you will be fully treated with or without health insurance you will just get a bill roughly 20% of what it would be in the US. I am English I can be treated in ANY hospital across Europe free of charge. try that being AMerican
yes, I see in your comment that you are an expert in the field... this is how experts talk... Also, I see, you have no idea about real life situations. Yes, you are right with the student costs. In Germany, they pay around 60-80 EUR per month (probably this is about the same in the UK)... Now tell me please, a student, who might (!) have a part time job as a waiter, earning 400-450 EUR tops, has to pay the flat or the room, bus and train tickets, has to buy food and pay for educational materials as well, from where exactly do they have 60-80 EUR extra to pay health insurance? You oviously haven't been in such a situation (either because your parents took over your study costs or you haven't been in higher education... which would explain your commenting style...) And also: being treated free of charge in an EU hospital??? Seriously? This shows, that you have probably state insurance (I think in England it is NHS but I might be wrong) and also, you have no idea how insurances work. Well newsflash, that is what your employer pays you the insurance, that you are covered so you don't get an "extra" bill... this is how insurances work... if you have a private insurance (not state), you will be billed and your insurance company pays over a certain sum, the height of which you can decide. Sorry "mate" but I seriously doubt that you have anything to do with health care or insurances. If yes, that is very sad, how little you know about your own field... and also, this explains, why a complete nation could have been hijacked with stupid slogans on a red bus about the NHS system.... you probably still believe you are going to pay any extra money into NHS after Brexit... that is just so sad...
'this is how experts talk.' yes, it is - Thats my real photo, thats my real name, a few minutes research would of told you i am the COO who developed one of the world's most advanced health/medical/fitness systems so feel free to shove your passive aggressive rubbish right up your..... and yes, I am an expert ;) you are wrong about Germany, you are wrong about the UK you have been nothing but wrong because obviously you know nothing on the subject, you literally made up all the crap you put in your comment and now you have been busted you try to come back? get lost. You are not American from the way you write and you are not European yet you attack Europe and defend the american system with lies to start an argument... hmmm comrade i wonder where you are from.
well, if you are the COO of the "worlds most advanced health" etc. system, it is even more frightening, that you think, you pay nothing for medical treatment in hospitals... I mean, the important thing is, you have the title, you don't have to possess real expert knowledge... do you also have a fancy business card? Surely, you are an important person, then... and also, this is how you consult with your US clients? or how you give advice to your UK clients? Also it is interesting how you as the COO of a global company have so much time for trolling in RUclips comments... must be a very successful company. Could you please advice me which company this is so that I make sure I never buy sth from it? I mean with such a friendly and expert COO...
The US American health care system is not made to help people, it's made to make a lot of money. Just that simple.
it's a health business not health care in america
I'm an American from California but I've been living in Sweden for 16 years. The Healthcare here is second to none. Healthcare in Europe is a right not a privilege. Always felt like a privilege for the rich when I lived in America
Exacly, the rich is disgustingly rich its like the middle east. Higher taxes is needed.
Well Sweden isn't gonna even need healthcare because the so called "refugees" will kill anyone who pays taxes (aka swedes)
Nitte Cera You're disgusting
+Nitte Cera
begone troll ,or in the event your a neo facist , facist or in hiding religious fantaic kd member...
no they ,wont there might be blood sweet and tears but in the end your either gona have the violent ones 'melt' away in the sea of the younger generations saying fuck that and joining forces with uss 'natives' ..or your gona have people saying enough is enough and building a second 'kumla bunker' specificly for those proven to be byond salvation.
I love living in Sweden, my life would probably be hell if I lived in America.
I live in Germany and was playing American football with a 7th grader in Dresden. He had a rocket arm and I missed catching one and severed a tendon on my middle finger of the left had. I went to the emergency room there and the total cost 75 Euro for x-ray and doctor fee. The apparatus for to stabilize my finger was 10 Euro. When I returned to the US, I went to a "specialist" who took an x-ray of my finger and then made a splint out of a tongue suppressor. The treatment and diagnosis was the same as the German doctor, no movement for six weeks. Total cost for US medical treatment was $930. Total German cost was $85 Euro.
More I hear about the healthcare in the U.S the more concerned I am for its citizens, everyone should be entitled to a good standard of healthcare, rich or poor. Seems some people are sentenced to death as they don't have money for life saving treatment.
If you cant figure out that the money you save on taxes should go towards health insurance its not our fault. be responsible for yourself its not hard
Ana4Star you know our company's don't even have to provide insurance they just hire temporary workers it's a huge scam
Quinton Bailey like Harley's k c employees they got tax breaks and are closing their plant and will soon have no jobs or insurance I'll be damned I don't feel tax money should give them unemployment right that's welfare them folks should take care of themselves duh
Quinton Bailey US citizens spend more on healthcare per capita via taxation+insurance than Europeans spend on taxation.
Oh I am too, I'm in the US for a year (voluntary service etc) on a ranch and it makes me furious to see that they decide to not go to see a doctor, even tho a finger was clearly broken or one got bit by a wild animal and decided to "hope for the best".
That is a violation of human rights and I am so sorry for the people living here.
It is just sad.
Been out of the US 2 years now and don't plan to go back for this reason!
where do you live now?
Crypto Dunker i cant wait to leave myself. Hated my country since birth. Its spiritually bankrupt and decayed beyond repair.
@@matthewmoselle9789 I am not an American Citizen. I've only been to the US on holiday. But I can't understand how you can hate your Country from birth. Surely the US has it's problems but so does every other Country in the World. There is no Utopia.
@@matthewmoselle9789 I would change with you! :D As a doctor working in Europe (I come from Czech Republic), you're not adequately remunarated.
Living in Europe is fine but what I miss is the 'sense for freedom' as in America - If you work hard, you'll be pretty well rewarded.
In Europe everything is much more egalitarian.
Good
I’m all for free healthcare, but just so everyone knows, IF YOU ARE INJURED YOU WILL GET HEALTHCARE IN THE US! They will not let you physically die but they have no problem letting you die in debt. Also, a ton of hospitals do free procedures. Just wanted to make sure everyone was informed.
In Europe healthcare is to care for health not just to make a profit.
We've been lied to for years by our corrupt politicians. The only thing exceptional about America is our exceptional greed.
I also believe we have been lied to for years by our corrupt politicians. I am not in the States, btw, I am Canadian. Lived here all my life. Ours are liars too. But, if you think the US is exceptionally greedy you don't know human nature. Why not leave that exceptionally greedy place and find a place that is less so, bet you won't find it, oh and don't come looking here either, our government in particular is exceptionally greedy...should see our tax rates. The US is a fine place, better than most countries on earth. Now, that is no lie.
A lot of people are good people that dont care what is wrong. A lot of people are good people that just don't want to believe what they know is wrong. A lot of people are good people that don't understand what is wrong. Some people are good people that do understand what is wrong. And a very small amount of people are bad people that also understand what is wrong.
And they are some very fucking bad people.
You'll find them all in the financial sector, divorced from the means of production.
Us is just on the front . . Thats all . . The european health system is collapsing as we speak . . It just takes some time . . I m dutch 50yrs and remember the good times . . I pay e1800 a year and my own risk is e1000 pr year . . Furthermore they dont pay 100% of costs . .just remember for a nondutch person hospitals are nicer . .
im sorry for you, i do live in europe as well. none of that here ;)
Lol, we Dutchies get angry when we have to pay 7€ at the pharmacy. Normally everything gets insured but the last couple of years more and more meds aren't automatically insured anymore. So from never having to pay at the pharmacy we now have to pay more often. Most times we can still declare it back from the insurance company, but it's just a pain in the ass having to pay up front at the pharmacy and handling the rest yourself :P
Funny to see you laughing at 'how little 7€ is' and we get angry because we have to pay 7 instead of 0 :P
Suzanne--That is quite an interesting observation. You get mad when having to pay for your own, but don't seem to care that you have to pay for someone else's care.
Christian Libertarian well, i'm happy to contribute to society so every human gets proper care, rich or not.
BB TT--So, are you happy to send 70% of your take-home pay to the government?
Do you watch FOX news or something? 70%? I doubt that even exists anywhere in the world. 90% of people pay about 20% taxes. And I do that with love, since I get to enjoy proper affordable health care and education.
Suzanne, *I* pay 67% top marginal rate.
I live in Canada- the idea of having to PAY to visit the emergency room, in the event of an EMERGENCY- that's so alien and dystopian to me, and I live less than an hour away from the border.
In Italy, 11 years ago my granddad, before he died, he was diagnosed with a stomach cancer. The surgery was around 5000/6000 euro. At the end of it, he has paid for what we call "ticket".
25 euro
It's "funny" how I was finding all those prices to be high and he was like "it's ridiculously cheap!" (Clearly I'm not American)
Because you have absolutely no idea how insanely expensive those Treatments actually are. But you and all other citizens are paying for it through their taxes. Which is great...but do not think this is cheap.
I am living in switzerland at the moment and I get to see all the bills the doctor sends to my insurance (I have to approve them). Some things are expensive (like staying in intensive care), but many are not (like a doctor's visit). And the doctors fees definitely are not paid by taxes.
Well it doesn´t really matter how you call it...taxes, social security contribution, public Charge, etc. The Point is, that the whole Society pays for it. I´m from Austria and I know as a fact (I have a lot of MD-friends) that medical Treatment is insanely expensive. It´s just a question from what perspective you are looking at it. The whole health System in Austria costs a lot of Money not because of Special Treatment that is indeed needed is so expensive but because People go to the doctor for every minor bullshit. Why is that? Because they don´t really realize that this shit actually costs a lot of Money...and I´m not talking about a single doctor´s visit...I´m talking about a lot of People doing it. The quantity makes it so expensive. I´m still happy we have a System like this and wouldn´t wanna Change with the US System, but at least in Austria it´s cerntainly a mentality Problem. People think it is for free without realizing that they are actually paying for it through social security contribution.
The thing about healthcare is safety. Sure, you can go uninsured and have more money that way, but if something happens, you might be in big financial trouble. It might not even be your fault, just something needs to go wrong and the cost of fixing you up goes into the ten thousands. With healthcare, average people can just pay regularly into it, and if something happens to them, they're covered. And if nothing happens, that's the best they could wish for. It's called solidarity.
I’m Canadian and I used to sell travel insurance. It pretty much didn’t matter what country you were traveling to, it was the same price - depending on age and duration of the trip. However if someone was going to the U.S. it was a lot more, even if the U.S. was just a layover to the country you wanted to get to. It saddens me that so many people in the U.S. don’t have free healthcare - it ends up being a bigger drain on the economy.
I seriously hope that you guys can watch this and understand that health care is a good thing and a human right! ❤️God bless America but America, get your shit together!
For it to be a human right, means that you have the right to force someone to perform it. Which would infringe on their human rights. Hence, no, you can not have positive rights.
Timor Khanagov I'm struggling to understand if you are real or just pretending. All it means is that somebody pays for it, if you cannot afford it. Doctors aren't forced to work as doctors. They decide to do so when choosing the profession. In case of universal health care, doctors get paid by the government if government recognizes the human right to give health care to a person that cannot afford it. I hope this helps.
Our shit is together, buy fucking health insurance...
Why when you can have it for free.........thats getting your shit together
P Cat denial while watching a video showing how awesome healthcare could be. Now that's patriotism.
universal healthcare is such a good system for affluent countries. US citizens are getting conned by corrupted politicians in so many issues. US has the only government in the entire world that says climate change isn't real. They have the only government that says the way to stop shootings is more guns .And they charge the most extortionate prices for healthcare and education .
Here in Spain it's the same, you can pay for "private" health care. It is usually faster but it's actually not much better.
By the way, I broke my hand and had like 6-8 x-rays and a plaster and didn't have to pay one euro. Of course, we all pay for it at the end of the day, but I'd say it's pretty worth it.
comandosespeciales te la rompiste machacandotela
No exactamente
x-rays give you cancer so too many are bad stupid
search x-rays and come bad with a proper answer
Sakurawaneko on rule 34?
I live in Amsterdam. I was in Florida in 2015 and I, my wife and 3 year old all caught bronchitis. We saw a doctor and got antibiotics, decongestants and for some reason cortisone. Totalled over 6 hundred dollars. I’ll stick with universal health care thanks.
No interest in travelling to the U.S.
uh huh = same for me. I live in Canada. I have zero interest in travelling to or through or over the USA!!!
If I need to I will fly via Japan or via Europe and middle east and Asia to get back to my home country down under.
I have traveled to the U.S., and it's a fantastic place - just make sure you have enough medical insurance!
There are better places to be than that country. Don’t waste your money.
@@richardsmart9331 And don't bother visiting the cities...
who in their right mind would ever want to travel there??
Today i received a bill of 350 euro (430 dollar) from the hospital after laying there for 2 weeks being sick. One week on the Intensive Care, one week normal hospital. I was kinda sad to receive this bill today but after watching your video i feel i cheated society whaha. Greetings from the Netherlands (and feel free to visit us again!)
Percy Tienhooven r
Yea you would have a bill of over 4000.00 if you did the same here in America.
Percy Tienhooven , Great, but a day in Intensive care actuallly costs €2000 a day !
Keep in mind the best part about Dutch healthcare (assuming youbare a citizen) is that there is a maximum amount of 'personal risk' you have to pay a year.
You can set it between like 350 and 800 euros, the higher you set it the lower your insurance costs.
Lets say i set it at 500, and I break my leg. The hospital bills will probably be more than 500 euros, but I only have to pay 500. The rest is covered by insurance. Then if I also break my arm two weeks later, I dont pay anything because I already maxed out my personal risk.
Going to a regular doctor is also free :D
Dance Artist . Yes...i agree.
My own risk is €50 and i pay €170 every month.
And everything else is free...inclyding my glasses.
For the record. ..i live in Holland
I live in canada. We have healthcare for all, universal healthcare. I get a rebate on my taxes every year between $500 & $1000 depending on my earnings for the year.
I was diagnosed with Colo-rectal cancer that had metastasized to my liver on July 26th last year. (2018) i discovered this because of severe rectal bleeding which happened at work and sent me to the emergency room on July 25th where I waited 25 mins to see a doctor.
The emergency room doctor sent me to a specialist for a colonoscopy the next day. I was anesthetised and woke up and they said I had colon cancer and referred me to an oncologist at the local hospital the next day July 28th where they did a CT scan and an mri. Which showed them I had liver cancer as well. They took biopsies and refered me to a surgeon.
On August 8 2018 I had colorectal surgery to remove the tumor. I spent 6 days in the hospital recovering. They provided pain medication and support in a room I shared with one other person (we became friends)
When I recovered from my surgery I began chemotherapy which lasted 13 weeks, getting treatment every other week. I was prescribed pain killers, anti nausea pills, and anti constipation medication.
When I recovered from my chemo I was refered to another specialist at another hospital where I Recieved another mri to determine the effectiveness of the chemotherapy. It had reduced my liver tumor growth by 67%.
On Jan 31st I had liver surgery and spent another week in hospital recovering in a room I shared with a kind woman who also became my friend. Again I had a painkiller drip, subdermal painkillers, and was well cared for by nurses 24/7.
When I recovered from this surgery I met with a genetic specialist who analyzed my DNA to determine the likely hood the cancer would return.
Now I am back doing another 12 weeks of chemo and expected to make a full recovery. I have no health insurance except what is provided by my universal healthcare system, called ohip in my province and the total amount I will have to pay when all is said and done is $0.00.
Needless to say I'd be deeply in debt if I was an American and I am pretty happy with our healthcare system.
Hope you are well now
No unless you were rich, you would be dead because your insurance company would find some reason to say you weren't eligible for chemotherapy treatment, underlying condition, unwarranted procedure etc. In America your no a person your a piece of machinery to keep the economic war factory going. If your defective they replace you with a new machine and throw you into the junk bin.
God help you man!
Bravo! It is the same for us in Europe. I send you my sincere wishes for a complete recovery. I'm sure you are in excellent hands.
Can this really be the, ‘evil, socialised medicine’ that some Americans freak out about? I’m British and our healthcare system is state run and we love it. Yes it has lots of problems and is underfunded by the government but we pay nothing for visiting the doctor, the hospital or surgery. It all come out of our taxes. I took ill in Germany a few years ago and had excellent treatment from the doctor in the village where I was staying and paid nothing for it.
Your statement stinks of ignorance.
People in the UK pay twice as much tax as people In America do. In Britain if people can afford it they will always have private insurance.
If you are unemployed in the UK somebody else is paying it for you. In the US those that do not have any money are covered by public health insurance called medicaid and medicare.
Your statement stinks of ignorance.
UK income tax is a little higher than the US, depending on your income, maybe 10% more, not 100% (if you are low income the tax is actually lower in the UK). And then when you go and have a baby and it costs you nothing, as opposed to $10,000 you don't mind the extra tax so much.
"If people can afford it they will always have private insurance", This just isn't true. You can have private medical insurance, but a fraction of the people who "could afford it" do. Because the NHS is very good.
blog.thesalarycalculator.co.uk/paye/tax/comparison-of-uk-and-usa-take-home/
This was for bighands69. Who/s statement stank of ignorance.
The first two points are correct, and Brexit isn't helping because after we leave EU that is 500 million more people who won't be NHS nurses. The last point? We created the greatest health service on Earth - it's just that periodically the government tries to privatise it. And you do that by first wrecking it - by underfunding - so people think privatisation will make it better, which it won't.
Americans are talking about socialism and communism as if you know what it is. Then you call Bernie Sanders a socialist. Idiot.
A decent and civilized country provides universal health care to it's population. And to visitors from USA so we can show off how good we are. :-)
So, if you get hurt or sick in the US, you can fly to Germany, get treatment/medication, stay a few days, fly back and it will cost you less than treatment in the US?
Dont do that, its very unfair to dont pay taxes but then going to Europe and take the free healthcare from the europeans tax payers... People is working very hard here
I think the point is that you would still pay for the care in Europe (so that tax payers are not involved). But the cost in Europe is so low compared to the US that for some things the cost of the plane ticket would be worth it.
Exactly. Tax isn’t involved anyway. We all pay for healthcare insurance.
Canada is closer
You've basically just described the entire "migration crisis" in Europe right now.
To a child, healthcare in the Europe is absolutely free.
Child birth doesnt cost you shit.
To as, in the US, even getting a hospital bed costs you a luxury airplane!
Love how all the US patriots argue against European health systems with the "you pay more taxes" argument. Yeah, thats true. And I studied to an M.A. for free, my wife studied to an M.A. for free
and while pregnant she did not work due to complications and got teaching hospital treatment and her full salary anyway (her employer gets it back from the state). I gladly pay taxes, so that other people can have the same.
By the wayTaxes and social security contributions, healthcare etc. eat up 48% of my paycheck, a US citizen would be at 31%. Are the 17% more worth it? I am very OK with it and many others are. So do not be mad at us.
They wouldn't even really spend more money because the outrageous insurance premiums would be gone. They are seriously so expensive, I thought I misheard or something.
Carl Sassau: The US argument about Europeans paying higher tax for health care also falls flat on the grounds that in the United Kingdom, for instance, many don't pay tax for whatever reason but still have free health care.
People on benefits get their national insurance taken automatically, but yes, they don't usually pay taxes because the pay is bare minimum for survival - or below if you rent from private landlord or are paying off debts. Or have kids.
that 17% would be a way better deal than paying for premium health insurance, i read about the prices and they are outrageous
Sadly, here in the USA it is I got mine - FU. We don't care about our common man. No compassion.
Most european countries have a great healthcare system, and america... well they, they need a healthcare system.