Making A Stiletto Dagger Out Of One Piece! Part 2
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For the record, Jamie did say in the last episode, "You've made one of those before." "You've turned between centers before."
It’s a real shame that Jamie didn’t splice in that clip. 😂
@@ZaphodHarkonnen 😂😂😂 that's no joke!
@ZaphodHarkonnen yeah I'm new here so it withe if been cool to see.
The scream from the gem-setting tease was, on a scale of 0 to Will-dropping-a-powerhammer, probably a 9.
Too soon r.i.p 😂
nah, 7 tops
Will dropped a power hammer?
There's a point in most craftspeople's lives when something you want to attempt is just too damn mad. I think we came riiiiiight up to the edge of that line with that lathe setup lol
You should check out old model engineering books, they have some really crazy lathe set ups to make up for lack of mills!
OSHA would love that! 😱😂😂
Thank you, that goddamn lathe setup was so scuffed he coulda used it as a goddamn belt sander.
IF YOU LOVE the mathematical equation of 1 x BIG ASS LATHE + 1 BIG ASS MISSHAPEN TREE STUMP (or other object) there ARE videos on YT where mad peeps do this... 😮🤣🤣🤣
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As long as it's done right, there's nothing mad about that setup. I mean, look, my large German lathe came with its original papiere und dokumentationen and among those were examples of uses for the lathe. One such example is machining the bores on small engines. :) I think it's self evident from how bores are splayed that it's not what today would call "safe", but it's within the lathe's specs using its faceplate.
that foreshadowing of the next episode gave me goose bumps...a blast from the past Alex!
Wait was that from an older ep? I’m kinda concerned for the stiletto now.
Hey Alec, safety tip/small project idea:
Wrapping the sandpaper/sanding cloth strips around the part is a great way to get suddenly pulled into the spinny bits, even at low speed (ask me how I know)
The solution is a few different sizes/shapes of blank "files" that you can tape/clamp the sandpaper to, the ones I have even have a little nub at the far end for better control.
up this
Came here to say this
Well know I wanna know cause nobody asked. What exactly happened that day.
During the lathe portion all I heard in my head was "danger Will Robinson!!"
my toes were curled up tight!
doing that fillet on the transition from guard to the cross was a squeaky bum moment for sure
Worst show i've watched yet
I'm glad he put that blue tape on the ends so he could see the invisible Circle of Death.
Never seen a dagger with a muzzle break before
It’s almost back to the Alec Steele videos I used to love , it dose look amazing so far and this is what I think most of your viewers want to see.. you are a craftsman , a blade smith and a metallurgical master ..
Yea the turning of the gaurd lugs was terrifying. Kudos to you for even attempting it!
That triangular blade design was once used in bayonets, as it caused a wound that "would not close" which isn't exactly true, but a stab wound from a triangular bayonet, at the same depth as a regular bayonet blade, took significantly longer to heal. It's also a myth that the design itself was banned/outlawed by the Geneva Convention (a common myth I've seen online) but historically a lot of militaries swapped back to regular bayonets (while they were still in use at all) simply because the triangular ones were considered particularly cruel.
The flat blade is also much easier to make with machinery, so cheaper to produce.
@@mandrakejake And outside of combat it doubles as a handy tool. Which is how it's mostly used nowadays
I think you confused the "banned via geneva convention" bit with twist daggers (or whatever you call tri-blades that twist like a drill bit). Which ARE banned as they were intentionally designed to make a wound which is very hard to treat. Which makes them a warcrime under existing parts of the convention.
I came to comments to ask about this very thing. Thanks for the informative post. Glad I could learn something today and correct a faulty belief I had.
It's rather that a triangular blade doesn't cut very well once you remove the bayonet from the gun...
I'm at 2:17 thinking to myself, "well, at least I know he lives long enough to post the video."
That's sick. The dagger looks like it's from the official high class clue murder kit.
It was Sir Alec, in the library, with a dagger…
Thank god Jamie is your resident mathmatician for those tuff problems like 360 / 3
This channel is the living embodiment of "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome"
Don't get me wrong I'm a huge fan but he's not making it out of a popsicle stick and some tweezers he has tools worth more than my life😂❤
Editing the glimpse of "gem-stone setting" is gold😆
Alec wondering when he turned between centers. Also the ww2 commando knife with a lathe turned pommel holder that he turner between centers
Holy sh*t the hollow ground looks INCREDIBLE! I wonder if the effect will be as striking once it doesn't have the perpendicular sanding marks anymore
Seems to me you might drill and tap the end of the guard, then screw in some ornate gold or silver gem basket, cuppy thingies, and mount the gems in those. Looking sick and dangerous! Love it.
Im a training machinist with a ton of supervised lathe time and although this is just what ive been taught, you need deeper pilot holes for your live center, turning on the pommel was really close to getting you a darwin award
Turning between centres like that is pretty much the most accurate and repeatable way of doing so.
That's because the point's positioning doesn't change until you loosen the chuck, right?
So no matter how many times you remove the part it always self centers the socket back onto the cone's tip?
( I'm no machinist, so I'm not sure)
@@DH-xw6jp more or less, depends on the accuracy of the tail stock because that's the only moving part in the equation and also its centering alignment with the chuck
I think the fact that the blade was triangular helped prevent it from warping much. (If I remember my engineering classes correctly.)
This has been my favorite episode in awhile. Really feels like you returned to yourself
was anyone else desperate for him to turn this into a triangular file with the worlds most ornate handle?
Jamie, regardless of which way you turn a triangle, it has a spine on one side and a flat on the other.
You should put your stamp on the square part in the guard it would look really like 1800's stilet dagger style
Damn it's looking nice! I want to see a Damascus Hand Plane next!!!
I can’t hardly wait for the next video from you. I may not forge or even work with steel or the like, but it’s so amazing watching a raw piece of steel become something amazing and utile. Excellent work and excellent videos. Been a long time fan, and maybe one day I’ll get the urge to forge something or at least try.
The One Piece!!!
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The One Piece is Real!!!
Up close I see what you're talking about; the burnt look with the pattern showing is actually pretty cool looking.
My uncle is a fitter and Turner in the RAAF. He's always told me that if you ever feel relaxed about doing something on a lathe then you shouldn't be using the lathe. Same applies to landing a plane
Oh my god that blade is gorgeous! The way the light catches on the concave surfaces is just *chef's kiss*.
Okay, straight out of the temper, that thing with the pattern-welding looks like it's made of polished dark wood. That'd be a hell of a look!
I'm kind of surprised that after all this time, especially with how Alec watches other knife maker channels, he hasn't made a "hand" sanding machine yet. Sure it wouldn't work for the more complex surfaces but for just flat bits its perfect.
Another classic Alec Steele project
the triangle blade with the hollow grind looks insane! cant wait for the etch
I cant wait for episode 3 where Alec makes a whole new dagger because the gemstone laying goes wrong.
I had little faith in episode 1 but this has brought me around. I'm now very excited!
Wow a stiletto made out a whole anime, incredible
After this series I think you should make the duel wielding knives feyd rautha used in dune part 2. They’d be dope in Damascus obviously
Hats off to you sir! Turning the guard in the lathe was sketchy, but well executed! Lol
I was thinking it would be cool with fullers, but concave is cool too!
Alec I'd love to see you make a 1 piece M-48 Cyclone. Mabey some simple (or not) Damascus. I think you'd enjoy the challenge.
When you're a machinist but you need some protection at the court of Catherine Di Medici
Nothing keeps an ego in check like a mouthy cameraman! Jamie must care a lot!
I’ve watched both instalments of that project: That thing is insanely Good looking. Talk about a FULL TANG!😮 Watching is fascinating . Would you consider Smithing a Dirk for me?!?
These are the kinds of projects that I like to see.
Why is your music in these videos amazing it’s a really nice touch
Damn I have to say Props to Jamie for the Editing and filming of these videos its incredible, Great job💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Alec using the lathe, I gotta do it for the views. I gotta spice things up!
Hes been reading the comments! Gem stone setting and gold inlay incoming. Niiceeee!
That thing is gonna be Efin' sick.!! Can't wait to see when you slowly pull out the blade from the ferric chloride tank. Epic build.
I don't know if you realize that A World War I trench knife, used for combat. It has a triangular blade to make it more difficult for wounds to heal. Was later banned by Geneva Convention. FYI :)
A spiral triangular blade would be interesting
Those guards look a bit like a rook.
Maybe an idea for a next build? A forged Chess game?
To mark the 120 degrees for your 3 sided dagger, put your dead centers in a 3 jaw chuck. Put an indicator on the carriage and set it to zero on one jaw. Put a center drill in your tool holder and use it to scribe a line on the part using your X and Y knobs. Then turn the chuck by hand until the next jaw is at zero on the indicator. Note that the indicator on the carriage moves out of the way as you scribe lines and will allow you to move the chuck for the next set of lines. Quick dirty way to get good enough lines. 15 year machinist/tool maker here
It's been a few years since I have seen a video of yours, like, pre covid. I love that you are exactly the same and with the same energy, just with more experience.
I’d love to see him make a factal vice
Lots of moving parts
Question for Alec: with all the tools you have, and the ability to make any that you might need, why on earth are you using slip joint pliers to tighten bolts on your lathe?
Because he can't find the Damascus wrench he made?
Everyone - "Lathes really aren't THAT dangerous."
Alec - "Hold my beer."
THE ONE PIECE IS REAL
CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHERRRRR
SO HIGHH!
This is the comment I came for
@@jonathanfield7250 This is the comment I came to
THE ONE PIECE
If only there was a bladesmith in shop to hand sand it :'3 .... young lad is over the pond in Montana being happy its bittersweet
As much as I've enjoyed your more engineering type videos of late, its great to see you working on a proper blade again.
2:17 I've been a machinist for about a decade now. That's pretty high on my list for 'sketchiest thing I've seen turned on a lathe.'
I love it.
They use to use gap lathes for machining like that, use them in the company I use to work for making landing gear
Tha dagger is so sick that is even Geneva convention compliant lol , keep it up man
Make a fancy, Damascus, folding sommelier's knife with cork screw?
228⁰ celsius is 428⁰ Fahrenheit, for anyone wondering.
I've never done metal working, I've never used a lathe, and even so Alec is making me extremely nervous with that lathe setup
Bro I’m a machinist of 15 years and seeing that dagger spin on that lathe like made me nervous for you😅😅😂😂
Legit was JUST thinking "A triangular blade would be absolutely nasty on that thing, triangular wounds are near impossible to stitch up" and 2 seconds later "Im going to put a triangular blade on it" 😂
Another great project from (one of) my favorite English mad lads...
Since you foreshadowed something going wrong in the next episode it’s too late to do it, but next time you want to set a gemstone in hardened steel try taking the temper out in just that part with a torch. It should work even in the Damascus mix you used.
Other than that, this is shaping up to be one of your better pointy projects right up there with the flamberge.
It looks like a miniature angle sword from supernatural!
I love the flare on the end of the guard.
Love these projects! Knife and Sword making on your channel have always been the most entertaining!
well if that wasn't a teaser for the next episode I don't know what it was. First thing that came to mind, though, is that the very ends of the guard don't necessarily need to be hardened and could probably be annealed before trying to set a gem
Knowing your history with crashing lathes, I was watching for the blood and gore factor
Not a machinist, but it blows my mind that you wouldn't just mill the flats. You *just* used the mill to mark for them, so why not make a quick jig to hold the work at a slight angle and get the cuts perfect? On the same train of thought, you could probably use a ball mill to do the hollow grind as well.
Might have been a good idea to balance the hilt and blade ends somehow for working it in the lathe?
Great content young man. You always appear to have fun while creating something. Stay safe.
2:18 thats the monent OSHA walks in
It’s almost like a file with a fancy handle 🧐😂
This was a nice episode. Light hearted
I like that only after starting the hand sanding to hollow the blade did you go ahead and barbarian smash the bearings. You knew it might not work, and was probably a bad idea, so you didn't want to do it, but having to hand sand that much material forced you. Best representation of project work and problem solving in action.
Not gonna lie... I thought you were gonna make it into a flathead screwdriver and I was kinda more excited. T_T lol still amazing work. That lathe set up was REAL sketch!
Lads you’ve got some great banter nowadays. 🇬🇧 all the way
at 11:15 the handle looked like wood, it gave me an idea, why don't you try and make a very realistic wood finish on metal for the blade, but a very metal looking handle out of wood. kind of a weird mix up thing. completely useless as the blade would brake but could be cool
This is awesome. And your second stiletto dagger! Can I suggest an idea for doing a third? I don’t know if you’ve ever seen the Richard E Grant version of the Scarlet Pimpernel? Was a series of feature length TV episodes done by the BBC a quarter of a century ago…..in it the Pimpernel (Grant) is supposedly trapped in La Force (the Parisian prison). But being the cunning proto-Batman he is (a rich guy facade with a dual secret identity as a hero) he has plenty of tools concealed about his person to aid his escape including keys and lock picks and a stiletto dagger. The dagger comes in two or three pieces as I recall (haven’t watched the show in a while) parts of which are concealed in his shoes- and he screws together a blade, the handle and a guard to form the dagger!
Do check it out, think it would be a cool thing to recreate! 😂
I've been on the internet too long since I read the title and all I could think was "Can we get much higher?"
this piece is gonna be legendary to say the least!
Might wanna check your tool height on that DCMT/diamond tool holder. Looked to me like it was high in that cut.
I know it's completely irrational because I didn't see any stories like "Alec Steele has stiletto embedded in his skull due to lathe accident" but man I was honestly sweating when you were spinning that the wrong way.
when i saw alec goig to the grinder i thought it would be the most epic honing rod.
Not gonna lie, I have seriously considered ripping the cheap plastic grip off my honing steel and replacing it with an epic dagger handle once or twice.
I've thought it before, but you really need an induction heater for projects like this. It would allow you to anneal small parts of a project without endangering critical tempering in others. I have a suspicion that you forshadowed just such a problem from not annealing the hardened and tempered guard.
A nice cool rap around the handles and a pen torch to soften where you are setting the stones may not be one of the worst ideas that comes to mind. Beautiful dagger! I look forward to seeing where you go with it.
Tune in next week as Alex breaks the setting prongs.
These videos really make me want to rebuild the forge
Thats a really cool project!!
But for the gemstone setting, you should probably aneal the steel just at the top of the setting, so you can bend them inwards.
Reminds me a bit of the Angel Blade from Supernatural
I'm very happy that you're making a beautiful blade. This is why I've followed you these past years - Thanks 😊