@Todd m Anything they ever teach in safety courses or site orientations is what he could have done. He clearly had enough intuition that this guy was inexperienced before the accident that he took out his phone to record him. He could have gotten out and spotted him before the young guy got himself into this scenario, he could have honked the horn in his machine to get his attention, he could have gotten out and ran to get in his eye line and signalled him to stop. Literally anything other than sit there and watch someone put themselves in a dangerous position and then say "saw that coming". There's a reason safety guys say "you see it, you own it." Well he saw it and made no effort to prevent it. He's just as responsible for this accident.
@Todd m Well I can tell you that "not my problem" attitude would 100% not fly on many big sites these days, especially oil and gas ones. Safety isn't an individual responsibility. You see someone that needs a spotter especially someone inexperienced, you step in and help them, then if the drivers fine, he can tell you he's fine. Not many people say no to an extra set of eyes. Attitudes like that is why they keep adding more and more legislation, safety training, and paperwork because having personally been on sites where people died, when the big bosses start asking "What could everyone do to make this site safer?" Just observing "the stupidity unfolding in front of him" is a pretty stupid answer. Just my opinion though.
Somehow the fault goes to the guy who said “saw it coming” 😂😂😂😂 Maybe learn how to do the job before doing it???? LMAO the kid doesn’t know how to ask for help? 😂😂😂
my pappy used to say "learn to walk before you start to run". mistakes around heavy machinery can be fatal. train yourself before sitting in the driving seat of these iron behemoths
you run up to that hoe and say something, hero. unless you are in line of sight of the operator there is no way you should be going near that accident. self preservation.
Bro bro my dad did that to me once where I was walking on joists above wall and one had a big dead eye if that’s what it’s called but he said he was looking at me from down below in front of the house sitting on top of the roof trusses he had cut and just saw me fall bc it broke my ass went straight down😭😭
“Saw that coming” Being a foreman, I always give the veteran guys shit when they witness a green horn fuck up like that, it fucking boils my blood. Especially when they record or shout to other guys and tell them to watch. We all started from the bottom at one point, so do the right thing a speak up.
how do you know the cameraman is a veteran? how do you know that the kid didn't get cocky and didn't listened when everyone advised him to stop? your white knighting about a situation that you know nothing about is pathetic
@@lordjaashin it’s about being a bigger person in those situations man, even if someone was being a cocky little shit. If you want to watch someone get seriously injured or killed be my guest. Doesn’t matter if the camera guy is a veteran or not he’s witnessing it happen, walk over and pull the guy out of the machine and tell him to take a break and explain the situation in a level headed manor. Guys like you are too full of an ego to be the bigger person though.
I became a good operator because my dad “saw that comin” and helped me out of shit situations like that. Truly lucky to have a pop that didn’t make working for him hell.
Lol right ,working with my uncle was like that. he died of lung cancer and 2 brain tumors. he would sooner tell you to go get the board stretcher or, bitch about paying you 11 dollars an hour wasn't worth what he was getting out of me. I was a straight donkey.. oh well, I went to welding school and I got a fabrication job, fresh out, making 28 dollars an hour, and all the fuckers are self taught🤣
Obviously this says more about his shitty crew than him! When I was a young man me and my crew were like family we watched out for each other at all times!
Yea, I’m sorry.. I don’t care if the punk kid deserved it. You gotta say something… help the kid out. That’s the difference of being an adult.. be the bigger man..
@@frankdieber7090 people like you are always a pain in my ass because you're all the same type of asshole. You see someone need help and you always say shit like "it's not my problem" "they should've known better" "it's none of my business" "I knew they were gonna fuck up" and all that shit but then y'all always cry when y'all fuck up. "Everybody stood around and didn't say nothing" "someone could've spotted me but chose to let me mess up" "it could have been prevented if someone stepped in and said something" and a bunch of other excuses despite claiming that they will "always" claim their own mess up when it happens. Another thing is that y'all have the same excuses when it comes to not helping people which is things like "nobody helps me when I need help" but yet YOU'RE that type of person that says "I know what I'm doing so get the hell out of my way" so people avoid you when you need help and you'll cry about nobody wanting to help you and think you're a lone wolf or someyhing when it's you that put yourself in that position.
@@frankdieber7090 keep working for the big man your whole life. There’s a reason you aren’t up in management by now. Go get those pants dirty bright and early in the morning
Or... when I'm too self interested, arrogant, self centered, and selfish to get off my ass and prevent this situation from occurring. They both should've been fired.
@@Mark-zj7hn the operator clearly didn't know What he was doing, this whole clip was decided within the last few seconds so it was quite hard to stop it from happening so no reason for the bystander to be sacked
I thought the same thing. It’s one thing when someone says they can operate when they can’t and you let them fail but this looks bad on the company as a whole. From the outside it looks like they can’t handle the task and a potential hazard. Even if you hate the company you work for just letting stuff like this happen is bad for future business & “could” be the difference in being laid off for a few weeks or not.
Thank you, and i hope more people see this comment. People SHOULD NOT be afraid to fuck up, it’s part of life. In order to perfect something you must first fail and try again time after time.
It looked like he was actively trying to put it in that trench, every time he moved the bucket, he moved with the pivot of the rig as apposed to going against it so it actually supports the facking thing.
Im a heavy equipment operator too. Dont care if you are the best #1 in the world operating an excavator please in the future instead of filming help that 19yr old learn the proper skill pass it down thats how it supposed to be in a construction team. "TEAM" this.
The only reason that never happened to me when I was breaking in was that more experienced men stopped me when I was doing wrong and taught me what to do instead of watching me fuck up.
@Funk master flex They could prevent people “putting their life and others in danger” by helping the kid out and getting the equipment out safely. . For example; If somebody is new to doing brakes on a vehicle, you don’t let them do it wrong and then speak up when the vehicle crashes and injured or kills someone. You help them do it right the first time to prevent incidents.
@Funk master flex only way to get in... you think in todays world where they have some HR person who doesn't know anything about the work just list a superhero level list for a entry level position...
I agree with you guys, he might of been wrong honestly by saying he’s and experienced operator but as soon as saw him messing up you should of spoke and said something, not just stand there and record 🤦🏽♂️it’s called a fcking test for a reason, you need to test somebody first and then send him off to a REAL PROJECT! There’s some people that would even go out of their way to teach them if they know that he has no idea what he’s doing but there’s very few who would actually consider doing that.
“I saw that coming” If I was that boss you would be fired. Why not get out and help the kid. No, film it and laugh with him. You must be the best teammate!
Right!!! What happened to being your brothers keeper??? Looking out for each other! This guys a joke. Looks like I have my topic for our next safety meeting. LOL.
I'm a lineman and I get out of the truck to help my groundman back up. Because I can see more from behind the bucket truck. Guess who can see more from the ground, when I'm in the bucket? Be the leader you'd want to follow. The guy with the camera would be packing his stuff, if this was my crew. You scratch my back and I'll scratch your's. Talk about me behind my back and we be seeing you.
Yup thats people instead of step in and encourage n give advice videO n gloat when people fail thats not gonna make anything better verry low quality human being here least the kid is tryin
I worked construction this how they roll it's pretty much a fuck you attitude figure it out for yourself....not for me man ...I quit 26/hr seasonal job in Ohio and moved back to ga...best decision I coulda made 8 years ago now making just as much and I'll be at 100k next year driving truck for a top grocery chain in the south
love the older guys acting like they never had to learn anything and have always had the skills they have. teach the young ones so your industry doesn’t die when all you die 😂 *edit : to everyone simply talkin about their experiences thank you. To all you mf’s who think your mindset is the only correct mindset, gtfo you’re either too old or just plain n simple ignorant.
I haven't seen one of those comments yet. Seems like everyone agrees that the guy recording needs to be let go. I agree with you. Everyone makes mistakes when they first start out.
Every site I've worked on if someone "saw that coming" they would of done something. A team is where it's at not this bullshit letting others fail so you don't look as stupid.
“I saw that coming” guy should be fired on the spot. Putting that kids, and people around his lives in danger. If I was on that site and heard that I woulda been fired that day too for beating someone with a pipe wrench...
@@caddiman1990 I was thinking the same thing! Guy probably already offered his assistance and the kid refused, insisting that he knew best. So the guy did the next best thing and filmed the mishap 😂
That was such an easy recovery if the dude would've just stepped in and teach him a good lesson. The guy who simply dont give a f about anything or anyone but themselves are always the most dangerous ones. Not the ignorant.
@@chuckbailey6835 I’ve been looking for this exact reply. Of course the RUclips experts all want to bash the dude that said “could’ve seen” but none of them know how to think outside the box of; what if management made the decision to put the kid there then told the others to shut up and let him go.....nobody seems to think of that scenario...
@@thesouthernpatriot24 bc all the yrs ive been in construction/logging. Ive never ever seen management say “leave him alone do not help him” if i see a kid fucking up 9 times out of 10 im stepping in to make sure he doesnt die
@@z0ffi928 so in all your years you never came across an arrogant Punk that thinks he knows every thing and wont listen to a guy thats been doing it longer then he's been alive and the only reason he has the job is because the owner is his uncle or some other relative?
Yeah I'm really serious about safety. And I know how that operator feels. He was probably waiting for someone to help him. The way he was moving the equipment around tells you he was making uncertain adjustments to get someone's help
Dude who “saw that coming” absolutely needs to get fired and sued. Could’ve cost the company a fatality/lawsuit and prevented the damage to the machine and any towing to get it out.
You want to fire the only one that had sense enough to know that the 19 year old that some jack-wagon hired to run an excavator had no idea what he was doing???? Hell, this guy deserves a raise. Maybe the lying kid and the dpst who hired him ought to be fired . . .
@@jasonjackson6055 I disagree... I have a 19 year old and a 22 year old who are damn good operators. Of course I am not expecting them to know how to handle every situation, maybe in 5 years or so they will know a lot but I stress that if they uncomfortable then say something and myself or my veteran operator will instruct them.
“Saw that comin”… Yet decided to say and do nothing. That would in fact imply, you did not “see that comin”, and you are just as incompetent as the operator 👍🏻
@@uselessinformation1702 sometimes you have to let a man learn the hard way. guarantee you that kid won’t ever make that mistake again. nanny culture is how you get a sick society like we have today.
@@steviechampagne i guess as long as you dont have to pick up the damage tab its fine.. Kid learned a lesson, company owner lost a few grand... Who cares.
Random older guy- “Kids don’t learn or can’t do anything these days!!” Older guy when he has a chance to teach the younger generation- “…………. I saw that coming…….”
Maybe he shouldn’t say he’s an operator if he’s not an operator. How’s that for a start. If he’s a licensed operator you let them operate. If you were to come around my cab while I’m in a situation like this to break my concentration you’re ganna get your ass chewed. I might not be pipeline but I’m crane and rigging. Stay out of my envelope while I’m operating or get fucked up by me and my entire crew.
@@mrmidnight32 As an ironworker I'll "come into your envelope" and you better move that crane EXACTLY how I tell you to move it or it'll be me and MY crew who's fuckin someone up.
@@dukecraig2402 🤦♂️ you’d be part of the crane crew if you’re rigging it dumb ass. The fact you thought you came in to disagree but with out realizing you completely just proved my point exactly 😂
So pro tip is this: when you see a 19 yo about to kill him self , you dont go and stop him , you just sit there and wait 🤔. We all been there at least once. Get stuck , panic , and start making mistakes. Lucky me that my coworkers weren't like this guy
Shit happened to me... I was sliding down a log road in a skidsteer my second day on the job because the guy before me put the throttle lock on and keep in mind this is my second day so i barely knew the thing and I got going too fast down the hill and rolled it off the hill. I get back to the site ready to lose my job and the guys standing there where like "man we seen you having a hell of a time but we knew you would figure it out" well i didn't... I didn't even ask about the 2 days pay I just left.
@@thecommenter6839 I was using excavators way back in the 60s. Did no one think to give you an operator's manual before even getting aboard? That is the first thing I always asked for. If one wasn't available I wouldn't operate the machine.
@@lordfrazerirwin990 Nope. It was 1999 i just turned 17 and got offered a job at $15/hr 8 hours a day and i didn't hesitate. One of the other experienced guys showed me the controls and everything I had to do and the first day was perfect everything went fine but the second day the same guy was driving the skid steer before me and I didn't know a throttle position lock existed in machines... It was set half throttle and up on the flat that's fine we where full throttle everywhere in those slow machines but when I went down the hill I didn't know how to slow it down so I shut it off and down the side we slid😒. I later heard that they pulled it back up and the swing door broke and the forks bent so I might have been ok with an ass chewing but the embarrassment wasn't worth going back. And to top it off the other guys saw me having issues all day with the forks going too fast because the throttle was too high and they said "i would figure it out eventually". Glad I'm past that shit.
“Saw that coming” Someone get this guy off the site. The younger guys will get so much farther as operators if you just give them a couple tips and help.
Some people don't take advice, they already know it all. We can't say/know what the deal was here. Don't know whether he was getting off the ditch or back on it. Either way, I have worked alot of jobs where someone would rather watch you sink as they had help you swim. Most of the time its because they're scared you're after their job. So you look bad, they look better.
He's the one that applied for an excavator job and told the boss he could operate..,..that's the problem these days....all you have to do is get it started and move the control leavers for the trainer and apparently that makes you an operator
@@johnnydavies1970 I used to work in a sand/ledge mining operation and the amount of "operators" That came in to apply was tremendous. Theyd hop in to the loader dig a hole while scooping from a pile and get 1/4 filled buckets. "i've been doing it for 15 years though" no, no way in hell cya
As a young operator i love it when guys go up to me telling me what i am doing wrong. And when I am doing something i never really done before. You'd be surprised the amount of times i get of the machine just to see what is really going on
Some guys won't get out for embarrassment that they'll be seen as clearly being new and having little clue. But after something like this happens you learn better safe than sorry. I think.
@Caper Guy okay kid? That's all you got? Truth Hurts, don't it? Even if they didn't have radios to communicate. He could have gotten out, waved him down, and proceeded to help him get out of the situation. You're an idiot.
I'd probably fire the guy recording if I was the boss here. You don't let a kid who obviously has no idea what he's doing operate machines and then just stand there and film him wrecking it.
You don’t let someone get in deep and then watch them destroy equipment and the job site. As a leader the leader is supposed to step in and do some damage control. Save the trench, the excavator and the kids life. Breaking glass is one thing but letting someone lay an excavator over is another. I hope OSHA sees this. They’ll investigate to see if the guy recording had an OSHA safety card. They’ll revoke it and probably write him a personal fine for allowing a dangerous situation to continue.
Especially the fact that looks like a damn near brand new machine. Kid just cost 3 paychecks in damage to the machine, hours to dig him out, and the new pants he now needs to buy before they send his ass home
Ranger bullshit The only person in this video that needs to learn from his mistake is the guy recording the video I don’t care who you are what you are who you think you are you don’t let a guy put a machine like that on its side the guy recording the film needs to be fired
People hate on the guy that saw that coming. I’ve been in situations where I saw a huge mistake coming yet it didn’t happen cause the guy handled the situation. He saw it coming, but there is an expectation that the operator feels the tractor and should know the what to do. If he fails then those are the best lessons, next time he will gain enough experience and be excessively cautious.
This is why I always help my kids when they are having a difficult time with their task. I teach them the proper way and show them how they can improve. This guy is just an asshole, but I’ve worked in construction and it’s typically every man for himself unless you have a good foreman or super intendant
Yup its been like that for me too, every man for himself, they don't want the young new guy with potential to rise up out of fear of them getting replaced, Ive seen alot of that
My dad taught me waaayyyy different lol. If he was teaching me to run a bobcat, front end loader, dump truck, semi, or any other equipment we had on our farm he’d let me get into situations like this. Saying the same shit these guys are saying, “hey watch what Riley’s about to do.” And if I got myself stuck he’d let me get myself out, if something broke in the process he’d teach me how to fix it then make my ass get the damn thing out. He started doing this with me at like 10. I’m 25 now and way better for it. I think the kid running that excavator learn a lot from that, and he most likely won’t do that again and if he does he’ll have a better chance of getting out.
@@rileyhooper7911 as long as the lesson was learned then us parents have succeeded in our job 🤘🏽 glad your father was a influence to help you become a better man, worker, and human. Too many dead beat mothers and fathers these days, cheers!
Depends how expensive the mistake is. Ain’t no substitute for fucking up and learning from it, so if it’s not a super expensive mistake, then so what? That said, I don’t know how expensive this was.
@@rileyhooper7911 your father is a wise man, and good to see you appreciating the growth from those tough learning lessons! Failure brings success in so many ways.
The really sad part is the man that sat there and watched him do it instead of stopping him and getting him off the machine before he tore it up or hurt somebody or himself
A friend from high school once told a construction foreman he could drive the water truck, which he couldn't. After talking someone into teaching him - 20 years later he is now the foreman planning and implementing soil movement before freeways are built. But if some chump just sat there and recorded a video of him failing to drive a water truck the outcome would have been different. It is a new world we live in and the trades are going down hill to where - like the police - nobody will volunteer to take the open positions if this lack of empathy mess keeps up.
Facts. I’m a 21 year old lube tech and can almost make a living off changing oil. Nobody in my generation wants to get dirty. Paying off debt till I’m 30 or 40 isn’t for me
I operate heavy equipment and work in the construction industry, and there is a serious problem among men in this line of work when it comes to being an example for the younger guys. Everyone is quick to talk shit about others, discredit/knock their work, or simply just watch them fail instead of being a leader or role model for others to imitate.
If he "saw that coming", why not offer to spot or guide the operator? Even if we were to assume he's 19 and determined to prove himself, he's still not doing it right. Being an excavator operator myself, I know how easily that can happen.
And the guy filming was making a delivery and knows nothing about operating that heavy machinery. So why would he go tell someone what to do when he knows nothing about it?
The recorder was probably selfish and was just looking for entertainment. He could've been a mentor and correct the young man, instead of just watching him fail. It's sad that our humanity is dwindling, where did our compassion go?
I’ve operated for awhile byt never went over trenches like this. Was the mistake that he swung right instead of left to triangulate it better or was his whole position off?
All it took was for the guy watching to say “STOP” and explain to the kid what he did wrong and how to get out of the situation without wrecking anything
Lots of experienced operators out there probably applied for that job, truth is that the greenhorn young lad got hired for $15 and the experienced guy wanted $30. This is on the company.
@@purecash2574 probably a government contractor so it applies to any state. Road crews can make anywhere from $10 to $50 an hour working for the same company simply based on who the contract is with. Private jobs vary greatly so no point trying to place them, but as far as government contracts county pays the least, then state, and federal contracts pay the most because of wage laws associated with government contracts.
@@jaydunbar7538 depends on the career too. If you’re a road crew spraying polyurethane on a bridge, you’re making 20 just for travel to the job. 30+ an hour to do the job. Ive been on jobs with completely handicapped people making 25 an hour. If you wanna make big money, work government roads.
What I love is how many people seem to think that you'll just magically gather knowledge with age with 0 instruction, or fuck ups. Reinvent the wheel without scraping an inch of wood.
So, rather than stop him using your horn, waving your bucket, etc. you not only chose to watch, but you potentially could have watched someone die. You’re the guy no one wants around.
That's a baseless assumption, you may be right but the young operator may have told the old guy on sight to F off when he offered advice 5 minutes ago as well. Fact is we simply don't know so any judgment is based on baseless assumptions.
@@jaydunbar7538 it doesn’t matter. If the “boss” stands back and says “saw that coming” it’s HIS ass. Not the rookie. Dumbfuck should not be running a job if he does shit like this.
Truth is, that kid should not be in that machine. If he cannot overcome a simple obstacle like that he damned sure don't need to be operating that machine with workers in the hole or within reach. Bunch of bleeding hearts! Probably the bosses little boy anyway. The man videoing this did the right thing. He stood clear and safe
Babe ruth is always regarded as the greatest baseball player that ever lived. He's also the guy that once held the record for most strike outs. Even pros make mistakes
"Even pros make mistakes" I would change this line to "The pros are pros because they are the ones who dare to take risks and make lot of mistakes, therefore they become the best of the pros"
Agreed, it wasn't really that dangerous.. young bloke learnt, he had a laugh while the young bloke revised his digger course while hand shovelling the ditch he destroyed
“Hey, track forward with the left side.” - No embarassment. - No safety roundtable. - No equipment damage. - First superintendent that ever did something useful.
The guy is an asshole. But track forward would not have worked without breaking the pipeline. Honestly it is a situation that was not that salvageable once he was in it. But he could have tried
Wow, imagine just stamding there filming it instead of trying to help him get out of a sticky situation ..... The person filming this is the kind of person who would watch a non swimmer drown
@@T.M.... yet so easy for you to make assumptions. go figure you'd be on the wrong side, and back your wrong-side-argument up with an assumption. you proved the point lmao
@@MayorZach you clearly know nothing about construction site safety protocols. But let me school your dense intelligence. A "Safety Work Method Statement" is mandatory for all workers to complete prior to undertaking any high risk work. Which means providing a backhoe/loader licence in this scenario. Also the operator and or site manager should of had a spotter whilst this excavation work was being undertaken. Clearly many boxes were not ticked prior to this work. Therefore my original comment still stands corrected. But judging by your mentality, you would be the dunce to jump into an excavator and start work without following any safety measures. Congratulations on receiving a Darwin award.
@@T.M.... I hold no responsibility towards your inability to formulate a simple statement to convey your point. Your initial response said "can't fix stupid" which has merit. But without knowing who you're calling the dumb one, you're not making a solid enough statement for anyone outside of construction occupations to even figure out who you were calling dumb. But let's expand on dumb. The Darwin award is only given to dead people. Congrats. You're familiar with the word dense just like you're familiar with the words "hard to work with", because after enough times telling a moron something he'll finally internalize it.
Well I’m glad that I’m retired , these so called journeyman should be helping a young guy out, I trained many apprentices by putting with the best man on my crew or with myself, someone took time to show me 50 years ago to make me a good craftsman, just letting young workers make mistakes and possibly be injured or killed or damaging equipment is just ignorance at its finest
sometimes a hard lesson drives it home better. I've seen many cocky apprentices think they're hot stuff and don't take advice nor respect their seniors only to land on their bottoms. the door opens both ways. not every blame should land on veterans especially when the younger generation we are getting are total know it all slackers
@@lordjaashin your are right it is harder now days but cocky or not I always stopped them for safety’s sake and I would go tell the super if they don’t listen to me , they don’t work for me. If young people would get into the trades , you can make excellent money and work your way up and be a journeyman in a few years and have a good job and retirement, college is not fr everyone
@@specialopsdave do you forget that government arms 18 year olds and send them in war? 19 year old is adult enough to know to not fool around but they rarely listen to their elders. the video clearly shows that the punk was warned beforehand not to fool around the heavy machinery but alas he went down like icarus.
Right? I've only operated tiny mini excavators on small jobs but.. Shouldn't he have put the bucket further to the left(other side of pipe than where it is) Then maybe rotated the tracks slightly the same way as he backs up? Edit: ah heck there's probably a hundred different ways to get across this trench correctly lol 😅
Yeah I’m only 15 and I know better than to do that I would have swung the bucket to his left and tried to get perpendicular with the trench and back up
As an operator myself my motto has always been You can learn something new every day on a piece of equipment as long as you don't already think you know it all. I enjoy helping new comers learn on the machines. I know a lot of dicks that like to see them fail too though. They're the ones that need to be sent packin. They're dangerous.
I've been doing this for 37 years, and any real foreman knows that their job is to direct, teach, mentor, and motivate their crew. It's fine to punk or prank new employees. It's a part of the learning process in construction. Too many "foremans" try to punk the younger generation in situations like this. Instead of sitting there being a smart ass trying to f*ck the new guy who is a kid with obvious no experience, he should have had him demonstrate the functions of the excavator beforehand, which would have forced the kid to be a little more honest with ability and the foreman could have trained him from there.
Yup! That just happened, luckily I've never had a rollover. But watched many rookies do so. If your reading this and are new to equipment like an apprentice, DONOT be affraid to stop and grab your foreman or an experienced operator to talk you through the situation. It's Better than looking like a jack@ss and possibly getting fired or killing/injuring yourself or someone else.
Absolutely, being in the trades my entire life it is really disgusting to hear so many comments saying he was probably a Know it all, just let the guy fail it is the way of the oil fields. No BS, it is the way of ignorant stupidity and it gets people hurt or killed
First day on job as operator foreman looked right at me said with a stern voice 'There are no stupid questions do not be afraid to ask if not sure" Glad he was my first boss learned so much from him.
@@jeff6426 guys like that are the best. Wasn’t an operator but in my prior trade you could find yourself in an overwhelming situation not unlike the one in the video. A situation where without experience you’ll likely just keep making it worse, then get nervous/overwhelmed, and truly fuck it up...when just walking away for a minute or asking for help is all that’s needed. Being the 10 year veteran and lead guy on the crew, I always made sure to stress to the new guys that they could come get me if they even thought they might get into a jam. I made sure to pay attention and intervene if I saw them making mistakes or beginning to struggle, since offering help or guidance not only gets us home faster, but saves everyone a headache and teaches in the process. Stress fueled mistakes often do more harm than good and prevent most people from approaching similar situations with a cool head. Sure, sometimes you sit back and watch someone make a mistake so it can be used as a teaching opportunity, but even then I often liked to step in and say “Just think about what you’re doing, what your next move is”. Nine times out of ten that makes them reevaluate and they’ll make a better choice, and 10/10 times it’ll make them second guess themselves and ASK if what they’re doing is right. It always ends with the guy learning sometimes on his own, or seeing their mistake and learning it the right way from the experienced guys. It also teaches them that most mistakes can be fixed, so there’s no need to panic or be afraid to fuck up. We all learned our trade from guys who showed us the way. We all know someone who has been doing it for decades, and makes it look easy, who was always eager and happy to work with us and show us the way when we were green. Why guys don’t then pay that forward is beyond me.
Damn well said Sir. on a job site we are riddled with ppl daily telling us they can do everything and then we’re told their better than us. They talk a good game to the idiots in management and they get hired even though in tryouts we tell management they aren’t worth a damn. Personally I’d do the same thing and if the guy died I’d sleep just fine after I got done eating dinner.
There are also people who are leaders and people that are just assholes! If a 19-year-old is already on a pipeline running equipment he’s doing better than most 19-year-olds in this entire country! Also, I hate to break it to you! You, be in the asshole that posted this video. A young 19-year-old, that you’re making fun of and posting videos to make look bad will probably be your boss someday! So you better rethink your approach to life asshole!
I was told by a old man when I was 13 if you go to get a job in heavy equipment. Always say that I think I can learn to operate that and never say run. It’s been solid advice for 30 years.
I remember being a pipeliner. Every crew had a life expectancy with radiation crew being the lowest. Very unsafe job but get paid up to $5k a week for sum. 3 deaths in the 2 years I worked there. Wine, dine and pipeline on!
so for people that don't have experience doing this what could have been done differently after he was straddling the dugout section. Could he have dropped the arm and extended it out before pivoting to balance his center of gravity? He tried to drive it out initially and that didn't work.
I like the comments here, as a young contractor id rather get yelled at then let an exspensive mistake happen, people have to learn somehow and this isnt the way. Ive come a long way thanks to people who have 40yrs experience and got yelled at plenty, sometimes it good for the soul to know you still have room for improvement.
Saw that one coming! Someone never taught him to use the boom to hold one side up as he toggled the other track back & forth pushing the machine away from the trench till the other track was on the same side! I feel for this poor fella, with the humiliation of having to be videoed, as well as being stick in the cab!
@@gregpittman1700 Yes he did, yet if he'd been trained properly, he'd not have made that mistake! I'd say the blame should be on those who didn't train him!
@@gregpittman1700 maybe if he had a better foreman? Hope you’re not that same someone that just sits and films him making a mistake for lolz as well. “Saw that coming” but did fuck all to stop it. Good job matey!
Incompetence stemming from insufficient experience is part of natural development, and will be fully overcome with time and teaching. Incompetence stemming from malice and intentional inaction is a pathological sign of a failed character, and should be countered with someone putting 90° bends in rebar using the cameraman's thick donkey skull.
But we don't know the full story. This kid could have swore up and down and not listened to anyone. Don't pretend like that guy doesn't exist. This is the only way they learn
Rather like the internet, everyone's an expert until a real one show s up and makes them look stupid. What proves their manhood or lack thereof is how they handle it. Back down and admit you don't know everything about the subject and I give respect every time. Act like a proud stupid ass and I will enjoy making you bury yourself in your own proud stupidity to no end.
My dad would always ask if I wanted him to spot me. If I said no, he would never step in to critique or direct me until I asked him to, unless, of course, something catastrophic was about to happen.
@ShaunDoesMusic Yea I had one like that, enjoyed pushing and slapping around his wife, kid and all of the 12 and 13 year olds in his gym class. He died laying in a hospital bed without one single family member around him, just like he deserved.
I feel the guy recording this, along with other crew members, didn’t like the kid probably due to his incompetence or really anything he’s done wrong and wanted to see him gone. I worked in the oil industry in northern Alberta and I heard stories of guys deliberately sabotaging safety harnesses or putting a guys like at risk just so they could be seen as a liability and eventually fired. As far as safety goes, the oil and gas industry is pretty cut throat.
It’s terrible, my father was a foreman at a potash mine, one of the mine elevators during a safety inspection was found to he severely damaged and about to break, the guys who found the problem reported it to the boss and they refused to repair it and told him if word got out about this you’re fired. Well that elevator ended up falling with someone in it, I don’t know if he survived.
They know damn well they “can’t afford” an ACTUAL operator … cheap fucks I do not blame this kid at all … ownership and operations management is to blame here
some one switched levers up . Dam no couldn't see the son was brite and hardly could see glasses need more tint somthing a bee was making the bee swarm
“I saw that coming” guy is a loser. I never flipped a machine, but i’ve been that young guy making mistakes and trying my best. The respectable runners are the guys who help the young fellas sharpen their craft and get better. IUOE NYC 🇺🇸 UNION PRIDE !!
@@jonn40853 Because everyone should be in a Union and it shouldn't be looked down on that way the people have the power instead of the corporations and Governments.
@@PeaceManBro Yeah everything has its problems. The core principles are still there though for why Unions started in the first place. Which is for workers rights and safety so wealthy corporations can't abuse people in the work force and take advantage of their labor. The corruption and lobbying can always be fixed just need people willing to put in the work. Freedom isn't free.
Turned to the left, push down on the boom to pick himself up with the bucket, then turn the tracks to the left to straighten it out, then pushed himself backwards.
Would have been easy to put him through some test or training before putting him in the field. That’s on the company. I personally train all of my operators. After 25 years operating you know who has it and who doesn’t.
Maybe the guy that "saw that coming" is the boss or was the boss until this incident happened. Regardless by filming this and making those comments he is part of the problem and not part of the solution otherwise we wouldn't have seen the video.
You know here in Ontario Canada you don’t even need a ticket to run a machine. It’s mental if you as me. I’ve seen so many guys come through and say they can run this and that. Ok so, hop in there and show me. Hilarity ensures and they get sent away. That said just by having a license doesn’t make you a good operator. I agree you know within a few minutes if they can do it or not. Worst case scenario you see that they may have potential with the right guidance. Some don’t get it at all though.
Exactly you see first before hand if they know what they say, I seen a high dollar super loader operator testing and ran into a gravel pile at 15 mph and not get a single rock,test was over
Everyone is slamming the "I saw it coming" guy lol. But seriously, in the heavy equipment world, you tell them that you are an operator and they give you a shot, that's exactly what they do. Give you a shot. If you lie, it will show. No one is going to step in. Either you can cut it or you can't. I watched a guy bury a Cat 374. When I say buried, I mean he sank it past the catwalks ripping them off. Over $15,000 in damage. He lied, it showed.
You can still stop it before any damage happens. Clearly this guy's inexperience was showing waaay before he capsized the machine. This is potentially endangering lives.
@@gazehound sure, you can stop it. But then how do you fire them? These days you have to have a reason. Save lives lol? I strip mine in WV, it's made clear before you sign on how dangerous it is especially for excavator and dozer operators. We have rippers on the rear of dozers. Sometimes we use them to rip the ground, but mostly we use rippers as a brake. You might be on grades more steep than a 2 to 1 grade. A new guy claims he can do it...well ok, show me. See where I am going with that?
@@BullwinklJMoose in the coal fields they give you oxygen to carry with you. So you can breath until you are rescued once you break thru a stockpile of frozen coal in the winter and are buried. Most people only see construction sites where buildings are going up. They never witness real heavy equipment in operation. A few that work construction may head to a strip mine thinking it's not much different and they soon wind up realizing that they are in way over their head. Loggers have it really rough, those are some really brave crews. Crazy stuff can get everyone sent home and out of work. Like if an Indiana Bat is found on mining property. Lol I am not making that up 😂
@thedozeroperatorman "Trial by fire".... I manage restaurants so its definitely a different scenario, but it boils down to the same thing, "I have X amount if experience" So I give them X amount of work to see if they're bullshitting me or not 😂
How does one get into this?? I only operate a 721G case wheel loader right now but I’m going for my license this spring for all of it. I don’t have any experience digging trenches for laying pipe or anything to do with it for that matter. Is there a specific class I could take first ? Or do I just get my license and start applying out west?
If you ever want to confuse the guy filming, just tell him to check to see if the light stays on when you close the fridge door. You have no business being on a jobsite.
The real danger here is the guy that “saw that coming” and chose to do nothing. Those are the types of guys that get people killed on sites.
@Todd m Anything they ever teach in safety courses or site orientations is what he could have done. He clearly had enough intuition that this guy was inexperienced before the accident that he took out his phone to record him. He could have gotten out and spotted him before the young guy got himself into this scenario, he could have honked the horn in his machine to get his attention, he could have gotten out and ran to get in his eye line and signalled him to stop. Literally anything other than sit there and watch someone put themselves in a dangerous position and then say "saw that coming". There's a reason safety guys say "you see it, you own it." Well he saw it and made no effort to prevent it. He's just as responsible for this accident.
@Todd m Well I can tell you that "not my problem" attitude would 100% not fly on many big sites these days, especially oil and gas ones. Safety isn't an individual responsibility.
You see someone that needs a spotter especially someone inexperienced, you step in and help them, then if the drivers fine, he can tell you he's fine. Not many people say no to an extra set of eyes. Attitudes like that is why they keep adding more and more legislation, safety training, and paperwork because having personally been on sites where people died, when the big bosses start asking "What could everyone do to make this site safer?"
Just observing "the stupidity unfolding in front of him" is a pretty stupid answer.
Just my opinion though.
What do you expect him to do Mr. OSHA agent
Somehow the fault goes to the guy who said “saw it coming” 😂😂😂😂
Maybe learn how to do the job before doing it???? LMAO the kid doesn’t know how to ask for help? 😂😂😂
Use your radio/walkie talkies which every site should have unless it's run by an incompetent idiot who sees everything coming
As my grandad used to say “the man who never made a mistake, never made anything”.
Sounds like a smart man.
my pappy used to say "learn to walk before you start to run". mistakes around heavy machinery can be fatal. train yourself before sitting in the driving seat of these iron behemoths
Smart man.
@Tuna Breakfast2.0 since you got triggered by two words i think you have a degree in snowflake studies
En español: el hombre que no tuvo un error, es porque no hizo nada.
“I saw that coming” but he didn’t stop the operator.
I was thinking the same thing why didn’t you go help him out instead of watching him potentially get hurt
You know,people just want to watch somebody fail.
Maybe this particular operator had already made it clear they knew everything 🤔
We all could see this coming but most of us dont have the experience to get that machine somewhere safe
He was probably sick to death of tellin her
"see something, say something"
He probably did. And the boss was like “he’s fine don’t worry about it”
lmaoo yeah and nothing ever happens till they saw this video and weeks of free money for that "opperator"
you run up to that hoe and say something, hero. unless you are in line of sight of the operator there is no way you should be going near that accident. self preservation.
Bro bro my dad did that to me once where I was walking on joists above wall and one had a big dead eye if that’s what it’s called but he said he was looking at me from down below in front of the house sitting on top of the roof trusses he had cut and just saw me fall bc it broke my ass went straight down😭😭
My words exactly. Dude had 3 separate times/moves where i would have stopped and said something.
“Saw that coming” Being a foreman, I always give the veteran guys shit when they witness a green horn fuck up like that, it fucking boils my blood. Especially when they record or shout to other guys and tell them to watch. We all started from the bottom at one point, so do the right thing a speak up.
Personally I’d fire the foreman for acting like that
I would work for you!
Id fire the lookey lou
how do you know the cameraman is a veteran? how do you know that the kid didn't get cocky and didn't listened when everyone advised him to stop?
your white knighting about a situation that you know nothing about is pathetic
@@lordjaashin it’s about being a bigger person in those situations man, even if someone was being a cocky little shit. If you want to watch someone get seriously injured or killed be my guest. Doesn’t matter if the camera guy is a veteran or not he’s witnessing it happen, walk over and pull the guy out of the machine and tell him to take a break and explain the situation in a level headed manor. Guys like you are too full of an ego to be the bigger person though.
I became a good operator because my dad “saw that comin” and helped me out of shit situations like that. Truly lucky to have a pop that didn’t make working for him hell.
Lol right ,working with my uncle was like that. he died of lung cancer and 2 brain tumors. he would sooner tell you to go get the board stretcher or, bitch about paying you 11 dollars an hour wasn't worth what he was getting out of me. I was a straight donkey.. oh well, I went to welding school and I got a fabrication job, fresh out, making 28 dollars an hour, and all the fuckers are self taught🤣
Obviously this says more about his shitty crew than him! When I was a young man me and my crew were like family we watched out for each other at all times!
Yea, I’m sorry.. I don’t care if the punk kid deserved it. You gotta say something… help the kid out. That’s the difference of being an adult.. be the bigger man..
@@scottyglenwalker2345 damn dude go to English school next. That was a damn mouthful. Read it as is and tell me I'm wrong.
@@getinthecar3624 why pretend like I know where to put commas when I don't when I read peoples stuff I read it in my head or did you read it Out loud🤣
“I saw that coming” .. Ha, buddy You’re the guy nobody wants around during work. Do your job bro !
The company tattle tale. Throw him in the seat, he'd do much worse but this video is proof of his value versus someone's failure
@@skramincyou don’t think too much do you
@@tylerwynn418no he dont😂😂😂
Facts
Yeah you saw it but did you really do something about it? Your a tool
Operator made a mistake.
"I saw that coming" made a choice.
Sometimes your hands are tied by politics, ask e sometime about being on clean up duty for a boss's son.
@@scurvofpcp my current work infested with nepo-hires
@@TheCaucusFlow You poor bastard.
“I Saw that coming” get rid of the guy who said that
@Frank Dieber this is why you will never be in management
@@frankdieber7090 keep on doing you brother. You'll never be anything in your damn life, loser
@@frankdieber7090 people like you are always a pain in my ass because you're all the same type of asshole.
You see someone need help and you always say shit like "it's not my problem" "they should've known better" "it's none of my business" "I knew they were gonna fuck up" and all that shit but then y'all always cry when y'all fuck up.
"Everybody stood around and didn't say nothing" "someone could've spotted me but chose to let me mess up" "it could have been prevented if someone stepped in and said something" and a bunch of other excuses despite claiming that they will "always" claim their own mess up when it happens.
Another thing is that y'all have the same excuses when it comes to not helping people which is things like "nobody helps me when I need help" but yet YOU'RE that type of person that says "I know what I'm doing so get the hell out of my way" so people avoid you when you need help and you'll cry about nobody wanting to help you and think you're a lone wolf or someyhing when it's you that put yourself in that position.
Right , for one kid could kill himself #2 that machine is stupid expensive #3 in Canada that whole spread is shutdown for days weeks possibly months .
@@frankdieber7090 keep working for the big man your whole life. There’s a reason you aren’t up in management by now. Go get those pants dirty bright and early in the morning
Video should be renamed- “When your boss hires a 19 year old pipeline operator.”
"when your boss doesn't want to pay a professional and gets cheap labour instead"
Or... when I'm too self interested, arrogant, self centered, and selfish to get off my ass and prevent this situation from occurring. They both should've been fired.
Probably the bosses nephew or something.
@@Mark-zj7hn the operator clearly didn't know What he was doing, this whole clip was decided within the last few seconds so it was quite hard to stop it from happening so no reason for the bystander to be sacked
Cough his son cough
How about, “When an idiot lets a 19 year old be a pipeline operator, sit down and records the whole thing”. Wasting money and timed for the company.
Phuk the company
Cock
I thought the same thing. It’s one thing when someone says they can operate when they can’t and you let them fail but this looks bad on the company as a whole. From the outside it looks like they can’t handle the task and a potential hazard. Even if you hate the company you work for just letting stuff like this happen is bad for future business & “could” be the difference in being laid off for a few weeks or not.
Sure bruh, just run over to that excavator and hop in to tell him to stop... That's not risky...
@@mcspikesky or just not let him do it in the first place.
Beginning of a good operater , you can only learn from mistakes , his young beginning
Thank you, and i hope more people see this comment. People SHOULD NOT be afraid to fuck up, it’s part of life. In order to perfect something you must first fail and try again time after time.
You dont learn like that! You learn in a sand pit where you literally cant tip over the machine
Would probably learn quicker if his co workers wanted to help him out too instead of filming his failures
It looked like he was actively trying to put it in that trench, every time he moved the bucket, he moved with the pivot of the rig as apposed to going against it so it actually supports the facking thing.
He’s lucky to have hands on training,,,but can be dangerous
Im a heavy equipment operator too. Dont care if you are the best #1 in the world operating an excavator please in the future instead of filming help that 19yr old learn the proper skill pass it down thats how it supposed to be in a construction team. "TEAM" this.
Kid probably knew it all and was the boss's kid so the guys let him show em how it's done
Hey we all started that way as well.😮
Ppl love to watch others fail. Pulls out the camera instead of offering pointers.
The only reason that never happened to me when I was breaking in was that more experienced men stopped me when I was doing wrong and taught me what to do instead of watching me fuck up.
Mabey he is like the 20 year old i work with that already knows everything and doesnt listen.
Do we know if he tried that? No. Maybe he tried that but the operater rejected the help? You cannot fix stupid after all.
Or if he was experienced like he said he wouldn't be in this mess lol
@@driftingmusic661
He's a noob. There is no doubt about that.
Gotta love how the older generations criticize the youngins while not attempting to help them in the least
Not White !!!😀😀😀
@Funk master flex They could prevent people “putting their life and others in danger” by helping the kid out and getting the equipment out safely.
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For example; If somebody is new to doing brakes on a vehicle, you don’t let them do it wrong and then speak up when the vehicle crashes and injured or kills someone. You help them do it right the first time to prevent incidents.
Maybe the operator had a big ego
@Funk master flex only way to get in... you think in todays world where they have some HR person who doesn't know anything about the work just list a superhero level list for a entry level position...
He's supposed to already know how to do his job, jeez these zoomers need to change their own diapers for once.
What a team player! Didn’t even help his fellow operator during a “coaching moment” no safety culture
Its a terrible world that we live in now where young folks just want to record otger folks messing up instead of helping
I agree with you guys, he might of been wrong honestly by saying he’s and experienced operator but as soon as saw him messing up you should of spoke and said something, not just stand there and record 🤦🏽♂️it’s called a fcking test for a reason, you need to test somebody first and then send him off to a REAL PROJECT!
There’s some people that would even go out of their way to teach them if they know that he has no idea what he’s doing but there’s very few who would actually consider doing that.
@@gabrielpichardo1492 young folks? Lol it's gen x and boomers that raised this culture
“I saw that coming”
If I was that boss you would be fired. Why not get out and help the kid. No, film it and laugh with him. You must be the best teammate!
Right!!! What happened to being your brothers keeper??? Looking out for each other! This guys a joke. Looks like I have my topic for our next safety meeting. LOL.
Yeah because now it's everybody's problem, boiled my blood when he said saw that coming
He was too busy making tik tok
The guy filming most likely did not hired that kid and did not put him on that machine
Yeah spams we need a healer kinda guy.
Let me change the title for you:
“Foreman Afraid to Be Replaced In Future Lets Greenie Lay Owner’s Machine On It’s Side”
Exactly
100% correct
Nailed it.
This proves that nationalities don’t exist. Same human mind on every continent. Lowlifes everywhere.
I'm a lineman and I get out of the truck to help my groundman back up. Because I can see more from behind the bucket truck. Guess who can see more from the ground, when I'm in the bucket?
Be the leader you'd want to follow. The guy with the camera would be packing his stuff, if this was my crew.
You scratch my back and I'll scratch your's. Talk about me behind my back and we be seeing you.
“Saw that comin” but I’d rather cost the company money and risk this kid potentially hurting himself for the enjoyment of a video-
For sure. Easy to spot. Why did they not stop him when his crawlers were no where near at a right angle to the trench?
The Final Frontier To get him fired
Yup thats people instead of step in and encourage n give advice videO n gloat when people fail thats not gonna make anything better verry low quality human being here least the kid is tryin
IKR!!!
Gives no hope for the young boys to become Men of character but rather to be characters.
I worked construction this how they roll it's pretty much a fuck you attitude figure it out for yourself....not for me man ...I quit 26/hr seasonal job in Ohio and moved back to ga...best decision I coulda made 8 years ago now making just as much and I'll be at 100k next year driving truck for a top grocery chain in the south
The “I saw that coming” guy is the guy who is your prob.
love the older guys acting like they never had to learn anything and have always had the skills they have. teach the young ones so your industry doesn’t die when all you die 😂
*edit : to everyone simply talkin about their experiences thank you. To all you mf’s who think your mindset is the only correct mindset, gtfo you’re either too old or just plain n simple ignorant.
I haven't seen one of those comments yet. Seems like everyone agrees that the guy recording needs to be let go. I agree with you. Everyone makes mistakes when they first start out.
@@richhoops2413 definitely, but the dude recording is probably one of the older guys, or at least not a new guy as well.
@@jacobbarton6689 No doubt. That's one of the many reasons he needs to go. Can't afford to have that liability around.
Context matters. Hard to say if anyone with authority was present to stop the operator who could have been refusing to stop willingly.
@@benargee i meaaaan if he qualified enough to know the dude boutta fuck up he coulda helped, but you are right.
It can happen to a veteran operator. Been doing it most my life. Everyone and anyone who operates equipment long enough will mess up
That's what I tell everyone. Every year you are probably going to mess up at least once. Just hope it's not a big mess up and no one gets hurt.
Been running hoes most my life... I've seen some shit. The guy that taught me 27 years ago has rolled 2. He's still better then me.
Yep been there done that...
Would something like that actually damage that vehicle?
Hope not me, I own mine and gotta pay for it lol.
“i saw that comin” yet you did nothing.good job!
he doesnt realize its a self burn, and that makes it an even bigger slef burn
@@asura8495 yes. He did not see it coming.
@Sky_Lake who said anything about approaching the machine?
Keep a safe distance and make yourself noticed.
@Sky_Lake what?
Yeah. Because walking up to someone erratically using heavy machinery would be a great idea.
Every site I've worked on if someone "saw that coming" they would of done something. A team is where it's at not this bullshit letting others fail so you don't look as stupid.
“I saw that coming” guy should be fired on the spot. Putting that kids, and people around his lives in danger. If I was on that site and heard that I woulda been fired that day too for beating someone with a pipe wrench...
Lmao what if he already tried to tell him and the kid refused to listen. So his damn fault.
@@caddiman1990 I was thinking the same thing! Guy probably already offered his assistance and the kid refused, insisting that he knew best. So the guy did the next best thing and filmed the mishap 😂
Yeah it's his fault the operator's fuckin stupid
I was just getting ready to comment the same thing read yours just agreed with it
You wouldn't do shit, STFU
That was such an easy recovery if the dude would've just stepped in and teach him a good lesson. The guy who simply dont give a f about anything or anyone but themselves are always the most dangerous ones. Not the ignorant.
How do you know the guy film is not a labor who was already told to mind his business 🤔
@@chuckbailey6835 I’ve been looking for this exact reply. Of course the RUclips experts all want to bash the dude that said “could’ve seen” but none of them know how to think outside the box of; what if management made the decision to put the kid there then told the others to shut up and let him go.....nobody seems to think of that scenario...
@@thesouthernpatriot24 bc all the yrs ive been in construction/logging. Ive never ever seen management say “leave him alone do not help him” if i see a kid fucking up 9 times out of 10 im stepping in to make sure he doesnt die
@@thesouthernpatriot24 Because your "what if" scenario is just fantasy not reality. That's not how things work.
@@z0ffi928 so in all your years you never came across an arrogant Punk that thinks he knows every thing and wont listen to a guy thats been doing it longer then he's been alive and the only reason he has the job is because the owner is his uncle or some other relative?
"saw that coming". I'm sure safety is everyones responsibility.
Yeah I'm really serious about safety. And I know how that operator feels. He was probably waiting for someone to help him. The way he was moving the equipment around tells you he was making uncertain adjustments to get someone's help
@@poorpuppy Me too. I've been in scary situations, enough that I've learned to help someone who may be struggling....or near death.
Dude who “saw that coming” absolutely needs to get fired and sued. Could’ve cost the company a fatality/lawsuit and prevented the damage to the machine and any towing to get it out.
You want to fire the only one that had sense enough to know that the 19 year old that some jack-wagon hired to run an excavator had no idea what he was doing???? Hell, this guy deserves a raise. Maybe the lying kid and the dpst who hired him ought to be fired . . .
@@jasonjackson6055exactly, I don't get these people they are spamming the same shit as guy above 🙄
But it makes sense, lies always travel faster then truth
@@jasonjackson6055 I disagree... I have a 19 year old and a 22 year old who are damn good operators. Of course I am not expecting them to know how to handle every situation, maybe in 5 years or so they will know a lot but I stress that if they uncomfortable then say something and myself or my veteran operator will instruct them.
@jasonjackson6055 I'm guessing you're the captain hindsight in this video🤣
“Saw that comin”… Yet decided to say and do nothing. That would in fact imply, you did not “see that comin”, and you are just as incompetent as the operator 👍🏻
lmao and what exactly was he supposed to do?
@@steviechampagne was this a serious question?
@@uselessinformation1702 sometimes you have to let a man learn the hard way. guarantee you that kid won’t ever make that mistake again.
nanny culture is how you get a sick society like we have today.
@@steviechampagne i guess as long as you dont have to pick up the damage tab its fine.. Kid learned a lesson, company owner lost a few grand... Who cares.
@@steviechampagne fucking help him out. What are people like you doing on the job site if youre not going to help out.
Random older guy- “Kids don’t learn or can’t do anything these days!!”
Older guy when he has a chance to teach the younger generation- “…………. I saw that coming…….”
The fuck are you gonna teach from this? Don't be a dull twat? Lol
Maybe he shouldn’t say he’s an operator if he’s not an operator. How’s that for a start.
If he’s a licensed operator you let them operate. If you were to come around my cab while I’m in a situation like this to break my concentration you’re ganna get your ass chewed. I might not be pipeline but I’m crane and rigging. Stay out of my envelope while I’m operating or get fucked up by me and my entire crew.
Older guy when HE was young;
"Someone please help me!!!"
@@mrmidnight32
As an ironworker I'll "come into your envelope" and you better move that crane EXACTLY how I tell you to move it or it'll be me and MY crew who's fuckin someone up.
@@dukecraig2402 🤦♂️ you’d be part of the crane crew if you’re rigging it dumb ass.
The fact you thought you came in to disagree but with out realizing you completely just proved my point exactly 😂
So pro tip is this: when you see a 19 yo about to kill him self , you dont go and stop him , you just sit there and wait 🤔.
We all been there at least once. Get stuck , panic , and start making mistakes. Lucky me that my coworkers weren't like this guy
Shit happened to me... I was sliding down a log road in a skidsteer my second day on the job because the guy before me put the throttle lock on and keep in mind this is my second day so i barely knew the thing and I got going too fast down the hill and rolled it off the hill. I get back to the site ready to lose my job and the guys standing there where like "man we seen you having a hell of a time but we knew you would figure it out" well i didn't... I didn't even ask about the 2 days pay I just left.
@@thecommenter6839 I was using excavators way back in the 60s. Did no one think to give you an operator's manual before even getting aboard? That is the first thing I always asked for. If one wasn't available I wouldn't operate the machine.
@@lordfrazerirwin990 Nope. It was 1999 i just turned 17 and got offered a job at $15/hr 8 hours a day and i didn't hesitate. One of the other experienced guys showed me the controls and everything I had to do and the first day was perfect everything went fine but the second day the same guy was driving the skid steer before me and I didn't know a throttle position lock existed in machines... It was set half throttle and up on the flat that's fine we where full throttle everywhere in those slow machines but when I went down the hill I didn't know how to slow it down so I shut it off and down the side we slid😒. I later heard that they pulled it back up and the swing door broke and the forks bent so I might have been ok with an ass chewing but the embarrassment wasn't worth going back. And to top it off the other guys saw me having issues all day with the forks going too fast because the throttle was too high and they said "i
would figure it out eventually". Glad I'm past that shit.
He's not gonna die in that tipover, but you might die if you run up to it trying to get his attention when he's gonna fall.
@@JohnSmith-fq3rg clearly you've never rolled a machine before. No airbags there to save your egg from being scrambled.
I love how they let him destroy expansive machinery just to prove a point
Why
That machinery was so expansive.
How could it fall in the whole ?
@@joemomma1608 are you joking? That excavator must weigh a shit ton it didn't just fall in the weight made its own hole
@@joemomma1608 lolz.
..."hole" though.
@@jhtsurvival he wrote expansive not expensive
Play on words joke
“Saw that coming” Someone get this guy off the site. The younger guys will get so much farther as operators if you just give them a couple tips and help.
This is what construction is full of these types of "BTO's" Big time operators
Some people don't take advice, they already know it all. We can't say/know what the deal was here. Don't know whether he was getting off the ditch or back on it. Either way, I have worked alot of jobs where someone would rather watch you sink as they had help you swim. Most of the time its because they're scared you're after their job. So you look bad, they look better.
He's the one that applied for an excavator job and told the boss he could operate..,..that's the problem these days....all you have to do is get it started and move the control leavers for the trainer and apparently that makes you an operator
@@johnnydavies1970 I used to work in a sand/ledge mining operation and the amount of "operators" That came in to apply was tremendous. Theyd hop in to the loader dig a hole while scooping from a pile and get 1/4 filled buckets. "i've been doing it for 15 years though" no, no way in hell cya
@@2147B the dig a hole while scooping from the pile guys are the ones that think they gotta bump the truck every time they load one.
As a young operator i love it when guys go up to me telling me what i am doing wrong. And when I am doing something i never really done before. You'd be surprised the amount of times i get of the machine just to see what is really going on
Some guys won't get out for embarrassment that they'll be seen as clearly being new and having little clue.
But after something like this happens you learn better safe than sorry. I think.
We have no context to this video...
What if buddy filming offered advice or help and 19 yr old thought he knew everything.... seen that before
@@AH-lw2bj then kick em off the job 😂😂
That mindset and accountability will take you places, i'm sure you already know! 👍
Welcome to your new position laborer 😂😂😂
“I saw that coming”
I’d fire him too Not helping that kid and just watched him
Mess up parts on a heavy equipment, ain’t gonna be cheap
@Caper Guy because machine operators don't have radios for exactly that reason or anything.
Nothings messed up. The fee of 2 75 ton rotators to lift it out is not gunna be cheap💀
@Caper Guy okay kid? That's all you got? Truth Hurts, don't it? Even if they didn't have radios to communicate. He could have gotten out, waved him down, and proceeded to help him get out of the situation. You're an idiot.
@Caper Guy they have coms…
No I’d fire who ever hired him
I'd probably fire the guy recording if I was the boss here.
You don't let a kid who obviously has no idea what he's doing operate machines and then just stand there and film him wrecking it.
You don’t let someone get in deep and then watch them destroy equipment and the job site. As a leader the leader is supposed to step in and do some damage control. Save the trench, the excavator and the kids life. Breaking glass is one thing but letting someone lay an excavator over is another. I hope OSHA sees this. They’ll investigate to see if the guy recording had an OSHA safety card. They’ll revoke it and probably write him a personal fine for allowing a dangerous situation to continue.
Hardly wrecked. Just stuck.
Especially the fact that looks like a damn near brand new machine. Kid just cost 3 paychecks in damage to the machine, hours to dig him out, and the new pants he now needs to buy before they send his ass home
Not to mention wrecking a 400k + machine!
Definitely, he would get sacked.
The guy recording the video says I saw that coming. Then why didn’t you stop him and give some advice or do it yourself?
JBS Services LLC Bc it’s beau he wants views
What a dumb ass. Setting him up for failure
You got to learn from your mistakes
Ranger bullshit The only person in this video that needs to learn from his mistake is the guy recording the video I don’t care who you are what you are who you think you are you don’t let a guy put a machine like that on its side the guy recording the film needs to be fired
Exactly
People hate on the guy that saw that coming. I’ve been in situations where I saw a huge mistake coming yet it didn’t happen cause the guy handled the situation. He saw it coming, but there is an expectation that the operator feels the tractor and should know the what to do.
If he fails then those are the best lessons, next time he will gain enough experience and be excessively cautious.
You don’t think real good boy
Well said, learn from actually doing mistake
This is why I always help my kids when they are having a difficult time with their task. I teach them the proper way and show them how they can improve. This guy is just an asshole, but I’ve worked in construction and it’s typically every man for himself unless you have a good foreman or super intendant
Yup its been like that for me too, every man for himself, they don't want the young new guy with potential to rise up out of fear of them getting replaced, Ive seen alot of that
My dad taught me waaayyyy different lol. If he was teaching me to run a bobcat, front end loader, dump truck, semi, or any other equipment we had on our farm he’d let me get into situations like this. Saying the same shit these guys are saying, “hey watch what Riley’s about to do.” And if I got myself stuck he’d let me get myself out, if something broke in the process he’d teach me how to fix it then make my ass get the damn thing out. He started doing this with me at like 10. I’m 25 now and way better for it. I think the kid running that excavator learn a lot from that, and he most likely won’t do that again and if he does he’ll have a better chance of getting out.
@@rileyhooper7911 as long as the lesson was learned then us parents have succeeded in our job 🤘🏽 glad your father was a influence to help you become a better man, worker, and human. Too many dead beat mothers and fathers these days, cheers!
Depends how expensive the mistake is. Ain’t no substitute for fucking up and learning from it, so if it’s not a super expensive mistake, then so what?
That said, I don’t know how expensive this was.
@@rileyhooper7911 your father is a wise man, and good to see you appreciating the growth from those tough learning lessons! Failure brings success in so many ways.
The really sad part is the man that sat there and watched him do it instead of stopping him and getting him off the machine before he tore it up or hurt somebody or himself
That's why they should fire the camera man and train the young guy.
He filmed it so you could share your thoughts on youtube 😃
The machine is fine, just stuck now
@@Sausketo Prove it
@mike todd
A friend from high school once told a construction foreman he could drive the water truck, which he couldn't.
After talking someone into teaching him - 20 years later he is now the foreman planning and implementing soil movement before freeways are built.
But if some chump just sat there and recorded a video of him failing to drive a water truck the outcome would have been different.
It is a new world we live in and the trades are going down hill to where - like the police - nobody will volunteer to take the open positions if this lack of empathy mess keeps up.
PREACH!
You are 100% right. Teach the new operator don’t try to smear him so you look better.
Facts. I’m a 21 year old lube tech and can almost make a living off changing oil. Nobody in my generation wants to get dirty. Paying off debt till I’m 30 or 40 isn’t for me
Well said hombre
I mean simple physics said this was gonna happen. If you can't figure that out you shouldn't be in that job.
If he went around counter clockwise, he would of survive the shame.
No shame in having a crack. Shame in just watching and not helping.
ive seen 19 year old know -it-alls that would have been insulted if you tried to help!
"When someone takes a 19 year old's word and gives him heavy machinery."
Lol so true
*as they "see it coming"*
That operator was bullshit but his supervisor wasn't any better ...
I operate heavy equipment and work in the construction industry, and there is a serious problem among men in this line of work when it comes to being an example for the younger guys. Everyone is quick to talk shit about others, discredit/knock their work, or simply just watch them fail instead of being a leader or role model for others to imitate.
Lot of big egos out there
Ya where I'm from they fired the whole spread over safety issues
Exactly right. The Pipeline is a harsh world I did it for almost 10 years.
Say that one again bro.
@@bbarnett-bookkeeper lol meant to say imitate. Spell check bastards
If he "saw that coming", why not offer to spot or guide the operator? Even if we were to assume he's 19 and determined to prove himself, he's still not doing it right.
Being an excavator operator myself, I know how easily that can happen.
Good thing is it's easy to pull it out if you know how to truly operate it huh?
@@tonysmith2847 looks like the machinery was damaged during the fall though
And the guy filming was making a delivery and knows nothing about operating that heavy machinery. So why would he go tell someone what to do when he knows nothing about it?
The recorder was probably selfish and was just looking for entertainment.
He could've been a mentor and correct the young man, instead of just watching him fail.
It's sad that our humanity is dwindling, where did our compassion go?
I’ve operated for awhile byt never went over trenches like this. Was the mistake that he swung right instead of left to triangulate it better or was his whole position off?
Bucket on the ground and walk it back . He had the right idea to begin with
yes but doesn’t the tracks have to be straight
No real operators would of put the bucket on the left side and sway it over L plater
All it took was for the guy watching to say “STOP” and explain to the kid what he did wrong and how to get out of the situation without wrecking anything
Guy who saw it coming, probably has no clue either... saw what was happening, but wouldn't know how to do it properly himself
Lots of experienced operators out there probably applied for that job, truth is that the greenhorn young lad got hired for $15 and the experienced guy wanted $30. This is on the company.
Fifteen. Lsborers first day who don't know the difference between a broom or shovel get 25 where we live
@@davidfitzgerald3653 damn what state?
@@purecash2574 probably a government contractor so it applies to any state. Road crews can make anywhere from $10 to $50 an hour working for the same company simply based on who the contract is with. Private jobs vary greatly so no point trying to place them, but as far as government contracts county pays the least, then state, and federal contracts pay the most because of wage laws associated with government contracts.
He said greenhorn I love it 🤣🤣🤣
@@jaydunbar7538 depends on the career too. If you’re a road crew spraying polyurethane on a bridge, you’re making 20 just for travel to the job. 30+ an hour to do the job. Ive been on jobs with completely handicapped people making 25 an hour. If you wanna make big money, work government roads.
What I love is how many people seem to think that you'll just magically gather knowledge with age with 0 instruction, or fuck ups. Reinvent the wheel without scraping an inch of wood.
That’s why I always buy shitty old stuff lol
Yeah its true.
But it is always funny watching people fuck up.
Like those funny home videos of old.
Thats why everyone loves me.
That's how I learned to weld pipe😂 fuck it up and don't do the next time😂 but then fuck something different up
The wheel was stone.. j.s.
Fuck ups are fine, but people assisting is better. I'd rather someone nudge me along over watch me faceplant. And I'd rather assist over gawk too.
So, rather than stop him using your horn, waving your bucket, etc. you not only chose to watch, but you potentially could have watched someone die. You’re the guy no one wants around.
Ah, the classic teach by waiting until something is done wrong (usually with some yelling etc).
That's a baseless assumption, you may be right but the young operator may have told the old guy on sight to F off when he offered advice 5 minutes ago as well. Fact is we simply don't know so any judgment is based on baseless assumptions.
@@jaydunbar7538 it doesn’t matter. If the “boss” stands back and says “saw that coming” it’s HIS ass. Not the rookie. Dumbfuck should not be running a job if he does shit like this.
Truth is, that kid should not be in that machine. If he cannot overcome a simple obstacle like that he damned sure don't need to be operating that machine with workers in the hole or within reach. Bunch of bleeding hearts! Probably the bosses little boy anyway. The man videoing this did the right thing. He stood clear and safe
@@johnwiz4460 how do you know that was the boss tbough lol
Babe ruth is always regarded as the greatest baseball player that ever lived. He's also the guy that once held the record for most strike outs. Even pros make mistakes
Damn that hit me man, thanks.
Or as I call it, a Guiness business opportunity
Now that's some inspiration right there
"Even pros make mistakes"
I would change this line to "The pros are pros because they are the ones who dare to take risks and make lot of mistakes, therefore they become the best of the pros"
Strikeouts are not mistakes. Failed attempts maybe, but mistake? Being afraid to swing might be closer to a mistake . Not sure.
Poor kid was probably a sweaty mess. Shame on you Mr. "Saw that comin'.".
“Poor kid” is probably one of those “yeah I know” guys.
@@acog_quarks8753 possibly 🤷🏾
@@acog_quarks8753 lol yeah that guy definitely doesn’t like him. I would say he’s one of the arrogant I’m the best there is hoe hands lol
Know your limits and shit like this won't happen
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Delete your account
& nobody even tried to stop him,before he got in that debacle lol..🤣🤣🤣
And so you give him a brand new cat?
Should be more than one guy leaving the site.
Agreed, it wasn't really that dangerous.. young bloke learnt, he had a laugh while the young bloke revised his digger course while hand shovelling the ditch he destroyed
“Hey, track forward with the left side.”
- No embarassment.
- No safety roundtable.
- No equipment damage.
- First superintendent that ever did something useful.
Doesn't have to be complicated. Only professional and respectful.
Right, instead of videoing it, do something to thwart it.
The guy is an asshole. But track forward would not have worked without breaking the pipeline. Honestly it is a situation that was not that salvageable once he was in it. But he could have tried
@@ThatSB Bucket to the left, use it to balance and rotate tracks left back, right forward?
Could have left the bucket where it was and track forward on the left and rewind on the right and would have squared up
Trench: “You almost had me? You never had me - you never had your car”
Im stoned and just watched fnf clips......
You win my frighighday comment of the day.
Trench: "Doesn't matter if you fall by an inch or a mile... falling is falling"
There goes everybody's Christmas bonus. Didn't see that coming. 😆
Wow, imagine just stamding there filming it instead of trying to help him get out of a sticky situation .....
The person filming this is the kind of person who would watch a non swimmer drown
Hard to educate stupidity
@@T.M.... yet so easy for you to make assumptions. go figure you'd be on the wrong side, and back your wrong-side-argument up with an assumption. you proved the point lmao
@@MayorZach you clearly know nothing about construction site safety protocols. But let me school your dense intelligence.
A "Safety Work Method Statement" is mandatory for all workers to complete prior to undertaking any high risk work.
Which means providing a backhoe/loader licence in this scenario. Also the operator and or site manager should of had a spotter whilst this excavation work was being undertaken.
Clearly many boxes were not ticked prior to this work.
Therefore my original comment still stands corrected.
But judging by your mentality, you would be the dunce to jump into an excavator and start work without following any safety measures.
Congratulations on receiving a Darwin award.
He wasn't standing. He was sitting in his piece of equipment 🤦🏼♂️
@@T.M.... I hold no responsibility towards your inability to formulate a simple statement to convey your point. Your initial response said "can't fix stupid" which has merit. But without knowing who you're calling the dumb one, you're not making a solid enough statement for anyone outside of construction occupations to even figure out who you were calling dumb. But let's expand on dumb. The Darwin award is only given to dead people. Congrats. You're familiar with the word dense just like you're familiar with the words "hard to work with", because after enough times telling a moron something he'll finally internalize it.
Well I’m glad that I’m retired , these so called journeyman should be helping a young guy out, I trained many apprentices by putting with the best man on my crew or with myself, someone took time to show me 50 years ago to make me a good craftsman, just letting young workers make mistakes and possibly be injured or killed or damaging equipment is just ignorance at its finest
sometimes a hard lesson drives it home better. I've seen many cocky apprentices think they're hot stuff and don't take advice nor respect their seniors only to land on their bottoms.
the door opens both ways. not every blame should land on veterans especially when the younger generation we are getting are total know it all slackers
@@lordjaashin your are right it is harder now days but cocky or not I always stopped them for safety’s sake and I would go tell the super if they don’t listen to me , they don’t work for me. If young people would get into the trades , you can make excellent money and work your way up and be a journeyman in a few years and have a good job and retirement, college is not fr everyone
@@lordjaashin underrated comment right here… some youngins just don’t want to listen.
@@lordjaashin Yeah, we should give them a hard lesson. Don't mind the fact that a $200,000 piece of equipment is being damaged along the way! /s
@@specialopsdave do you forget that government arms 18 year olds and send them in war? 19 year old is adult enough to know to not fool around but they rarely listen to their elders. the video clearly shows that the punk was warned beforehand not to fool around the heavy machinery but alas he went down like icarus.
Ahhh yes swing the counterweight to the side that you're tipping on
That's exactly what I was thinking 😂
Right? I've only operated tiny mini excavators on small jobs but..
Shouldn't he have put the bucket further to the left(other side of pipe than where it is)
Then maybe rotated the tracks slightly the same way as he backs up?
Edit: ah heck there's probably a hundred different ways to get across this trench correctly lol 😅
Yeah I’m only 15 and I know better than to do that I would have swung the bucket to his left and tried to get perpendicular with the trench and back up
Needed a spotter to tell him he was tipping how could he see that his tipping from inside the cab
“Well I didn’t have a damn spotter!!!” Operators fav line
As an operator myself my motto has always been You can learn something new every day on a piece of equipment as long as you don't already think you know it all. I enjoy helping new comers learn on the machines. I know a lot of dicks that like to see them fail too though. They're the ones that need to be sent packin. They're dangerous.
Pro tip, the Caterpillar logo actually tells you which way up is supposed to be. If it points to the ground, don't unbuckle your seatbelt.
“It is exactly as Lord Denethor predicted! LONG has he forseen this doom!” -Some guy
“Bitch please. Foreseen and DONE NOTHING!” - Gandalf
I've been doing this for 37 years, and any real foreman knows that their job is to direct, teach, mentor, and motivate their crew. It's fine to punk or prank new employees. It's a part of the learning process in construction. Too many "foremans" try to punk the younger generation in situations like this. Instead of sitting there being a smart ass trying to f*ck the new guy who is a kid with obvious no experience, he should have had him demonstrate the functions of the excavator beforehand, which would have forced the kid to be a little more honest with ability and the foreman could have trained him from there.
Help the kid and teach him man !!!!! Everyone has to start somewhere .
Typical of the guy who wants the job but never stood up, happy to see others struggle
Yup! That just happened, luckily I've never had a rollover. But watched many rookies do so. If your reading this and are new to equipment like an apprentice, DONOT be affraid to stop and grab your foreman or an experienced operator to talk you through the situation. It's Better than looking like a jack@ss and possibly getting fired or killing/injuring yourself or someone else.
I fully agree
Absolutely, being in the trades my entire life it is really disgusting to hear so many comments saying he was probably a Know it all, just let the guy fail it is the way of the oil fields. No BS, it is the way of ignorant stupidity and it gets people hurt or killed
First day on job as operator foreman looked right at me said with a stern voice 'There are no stupid questions do not be afraid to ask if not sure" Glad he was my first boss learned so much from him.
@@jeff6426 hell yeah, felt the same vibes.
@@jeff6426 guys like that are the best. Wasn’t an operator but in my prior trade you could find yourself in an overwhelming situation not unlike the one in the video. A situation where without experience you’ll likely just keep making it worse, then get nervous/overwhelmed, and truly fuck it up...when just walking away for a minute or asking for help is all that’s needed. Being the 10 year veteran and lead guy on the crew, I always made sure to stress to the new guys that they could come get me if they even thought they might get into a jam. I made sure to pay attention and intervene if I saw them making mistakes or beginning to struggle, since offering help or guidance not only gets us home faster, but saves everyone a headache and teaches in the process. Stress fueled mistakes often do more harm than good and prevent most people from approaching similar situations with a cool head. Sure, sometimes you sit back and watch someone make a mistake so it can be used as a teaching opportunity, but even then I often liked to step in and say “Just think about what you’re doing, what your next move is”. Nine times out of ten that makes them reevaluate and they’ll make a better choice, and 10/10 times it’ll make them second guess themselves and ASK if what they’re doing is right. It always ends with the guy learning sometimes on his own, or seeing their mistake and learning it the right way from the experienced guys. It also teaches them that most mistakes can be fixed, so there’s no need to panic or be afraid to fuck up.
We all learned our trade from guys who showed us the way. We all know someone who has been doing it for decades, and makes it look easy, who was always eager and happy to work with us and show us the way when we were green. Why guys don’t then pay that forward is beyond me.
There’s people who “run” equipment… and there’s “people who “operate “ equipment!!
Damn well said Sir. on a job site we are riddled with ppl daily telling us they can do everything and then we’re told their better than us. They talk a good game to the idiots in management and they get hired even though in tryouts we tell management they aren’t worth a damn. Personally I’d do the same thing and if the guy died I’d sleep just fine after I got done eating dinner.
There are also people who are leaders and people that are just assholes! If a 19-year-old is already on a pipeline running equipment he’s doing better than most 19-year-olds in this entire country! Also, I hate to break it to you! You, be in the asshole that posted this video. A young 19-year-old, that you’re making fun of and posting videos to make look bad will probably be your boss someday! So you better rethink your approach to life asshole!
@@frankdieber7090 you got some problems taking it that serious maybe see a therapist
But no matter who you are there is always day 1.
I was told by a old man when I was 13 if you go to get a job in heavy equipment. Always say that I think I can learn to operate that and never say run. It’s been solid advice for 30 years.
Everybody saw That coming 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤕🤕😂😂
They misheard him, what he said was “I lay pipe” 😂
Nope. He has a new zealend accent and he said i saw that coming.
@@rileysmall4317hes not talking about that guy
Yeah man just let the dude fail and don’t give him advice on what to do, perfect leadership skills
Who said he's a leader. You have no clue who this guy's was but yet you wanna pretend you know. What a clown
I remember being a pipeliner. Every crew had a life expectancy with radiation crew being the lowest. Very unsafe job but get paid up to $5k a week for sum. 3 deaths in the 2 years I worked there. Wine, dine and pipeline on!
He'll yeah!
Wtf that's an evil industry
Best damn job in the world ..... lowering in crew Kings of the Right of Way!!
@@eltaninshrdlu2925 No shit look what the oil and gas industry is doing to our planet
@@oceanecastelnau9821 do you mean keeping it running? It’s efficient and reliable.
so for people that don't have experience doing this what could have been done differently after he was straddling the dugout section.
Could he have dropped the arm and extended it out before pivoting to balance his center of gravity? He tried to drive it out initially and that didn't work.
"I saw that coming" yeah, we all did.
I like the comments here, as a young contractor id rather get yelled at then let an exspensive mistake happen, people have to learn somehow and this isnt the way. Ive come a long way thanks to people who have 40yrs experience and got yelled at plenty, sometimes it good for the soul to know you still have room for improvement.
Saw that one coming! Someone never taught him to use the boom to hold one side up as he toggled the other track back & forth pushing the machine away from the trench till the other track was on the same side! I feel for this poor fella, with the humiliation of having to be videoed, as well as being stick in the cab!
He literally swung the counter weight side into the hole that he was falling into. He shouldn't be operating that at all.
@@gregpittman1700 Yes he did, yet if he'd been trained properly, he'd not have made that mistake! I'd say the blame should be on those who didn't train him!
@@gregpittman1700 maybe if he had a better foreman? Hope you’re not that same someone that just sits and films him making a mistake for lolz as well.
“Saw that coming” but did fuck all to stop it. Good job matey!
*meant for OP Rick, sorry
@@TheGonzogibby I was like "I'm watching it through RUclips, there was no amount of yelling at the screen I can do thst will change this outcome" lol
“Saw that coming “ but did nothing to stop it. Haha
I’ve seen this happen a lot. When a company fires a real operator then pays a Labor hand to run equipment. Companies can get away with anything.
Labor worker is paid less so there's an extra dollar in the pocket. Until a machine or crane falls over.
The Union Creedo
Who is a "real operator"? Someone taught by their dad? People gotta learn somehow either you teach them or they lie to you and roll your machines.
Incompetence stemming from insufficient experience is part of natural development, and will be fully overcome with time and teaching.
Incompetence stemming from malice and intentional inaction is a pathological sign of a failed character, and should be countered with someone putting 90° bends in rebar using the cameraman's thick donkey skull.
But we don't know the full story. This kid could have swore up and down and not listened to anyone.
Don't pretend like that guy doesn't exist. This is the only way they learn
Well said.
Everyone is an operator until the real operator shows up
Rather like the internet, everyone's an expert until a real one show s up and makes them look stupid. What proves their manhood or lack thereof is how they handle it. Back down and admit you don't know everything about the subject and I give respect every time.
Act like a proud stupid ass and I will enjoy making you bury yourself in your own proud stupidity to no end.
@@tcmtech7515 yep, everybody says help him but maybe he's one of those who refuse to listen. Seen my share of them.
@@anthonythorp7291 then maybe the uploaded should provide some context
That CAT roll over protection coming in clutch.
As an operator, watching this video made me want to offer this kid some advice. Guy recording needs to be fired.
Nailed it
Well if the kid was talking shit that puts a different spin on it though
My dad would always ask if I wanted him to spot me. If I said no, he would never step in to critique or direct me until I asked him to, unless, of course, something catastrophic was about to happen.
I just could Never hold the flashlight right for my dad 😅
@ShaunDoesMusic
Yea I had one like that, enjoyed pushing and slapping around his wife, kid and all of the 12 and 13 year olds in his gym class.
He died laying in a hospital bed without one single family member around him, just like he deserved.
@ShaunDoesMusic healing's always better than hating. The moral of this video too and comment section too.
I feel the guy recording this, along with other crew members, didn’t like the kid probably due to his incompetence or really anything he’s done wrong and wanted to see him gone. I worked in the oil industry in northern Alberta and I heard stories of guys deliberately sabotaging safety harnesses or putting a guys like at risk just so they could be seen as a liability and eventually fired. As far as safety goes, the oil and gas industry is pretty cut throat.
@Biden lost I- 😐nvm🚶♂️
It’s terrible, my father was a foreman at a potash mine, one of the mine elevators during a safety inspection was found to he severely damaged and about to break, the guys who found the problem reported it to the boss and they refused to repair it and told him if word got out about this you’re fired.
Well that elevator ended up falling with someone in it, I don’t know if he survived.
@@apretarded7248 fucked up. Deliberately Sabotage to avoid spending a few dollars to fix the damn thing
@Biden lost And... the other 1%?
Luckily I work on the utility side more or less.
A good operator doesn’t let the less experienced put themselves in a bad situation.
Or : "when they won't hire AN ACTUAL operator in favor of the bosses son"
They know damn well they “can’t afford” an ACTUAL operator … cheap fucks
I do not blame this kid at all … ownership and operations management is to blame here
some one switched levers up . Dam no couldn't see the son was brite and hardly could see glasses need more tint somthing a bee was making the bee swarm
Hey careful! I’m a boss’s son lol. I got the point though.
@@lightningauto98 wachin them bees
Then go build your own damn job 🙂
You just grab a kids toy in his own house, clean it and claim it yours?
Follow until you lead. You're a follower.
“I saw that coming” guy is a loser.
I never flipped a machine, but i’ve been that young guy making mistakes and trying my best.
The respectable runners are the guys who help the young fellas sharpen their craft and get better.
IUOE NYC 🇺🇸 UNION PRIDE !!
Why all yall union guys always repin the union hard, union pride lol i make union money too but dont be putting it out there all the time
@@jonn40853 Because everyone should be in a Union and it shouldn't be looked down on that way the people have the power instead of the corporations and Governments.
@@dedalliance1 Lol Unions are so corrupt, They give tons of money to politicians, for what? Nothing in return? Unions are a government backed racket.
@@PeaceManBro Yeah everything has its problems. The core principles are still there though for why Unions started in the first place. Which is for workers rights and safety so wealthy corporations can't abuse people in the work force and take advantage of their labor. The corruption and lobbying can always be fixed just need people willing to put in the work. Freedom isn't free.
Dude literally rotated the wrong way. Twice. 😂
Yea true, he should turn to the left tho
Turned to the left, push down on the boom to pick himself up with the bucket, then turn the tracks to the left to straighten it out, then pushed himself backwards.
he panicked
@@urmum7461 because he was on camera
If you've ever been a parent some kids got to learn this way 🤷
When you lie on your resume and get the job 😂
Would have been easy to put him through some test or training before putting him in the field. That’s on the company. I personally train all of my operators. After 25 years operating you know who has it and who doesn’t.
Maybe the guy that "saw that coming" is the boss or was the boss until this incident happened. Regardless by filming this and making those comments he is part of the problem and not part of the solution otherwise we wouldn't have seen the video.
I remember my first time in a back hoe, I was 5 hahahah
How long does it take to get a certified to operate these?1
You know here in Ontario Canada you don’t even need a ticket to run a machine. It’s mental if you as me. I’ve seen so many guys come through and say they can run this and that. Ok so, hop in there and show me. Hilarity ensures and they get sent away. That said just by having a license doesn’t make you a good operator. I agree you know within a few minutes if they can do it or not. Worst case scenario you see that they may have potential with the right guidance. Some don’t get it at all though.
Exactly you see first before hand if they know what they say, I seen a high dollar super loader operator testing and ran into a gravel pile at 15 mph and not get a single rock,test was over
Everyone is slamming the "I saw it coming" guy lol. But seriously, in the heavy equipment world, you tell them that you are an operator and they give you a shot, that's exactly what they do. Give you a shot. If you lie, it will show. No one is going to step in. Either you can cut it or you can't. I watched a guy bury a Cat 374. When I say buried, I mean he sank it past the catwalks ripping them off. Over $15,000 in damage. He lied, it showed.
You can still stop it before any damage happens. Clearly this guy's inexperience was showing waaay before he capsized the machine. This is potentially endangering lives.
@@gazehound sure, you can stop it. But then how do you fire them? These days you have to have a reason. Save lives lol? I strip mine in WV, it's made clear before you sign on how dangerous it is especially for excavator and dozer operators. We have rippers on the rear of dozers. Sometimes we use them to rip the ground, but mostly we use rippers as a brake. You might be on grades more steep than a 2 to 1 grade. A new guy claims he can do it...well ok, show me. See where I am going with that?
@@thedozeroperatorman damn man, much respect. I respect your time out in, expertise and ability and heart for whatever you're doing it for
@@BullwinklJMoose in the coal fields they give you oxygen to carry with you. So you can breath until you are rescued once you break thru a stockpile of frozen coal in the winter and are buried. Most people only see construction sites where buildings are going up. They never witness real heavy equipment in operation. A few that work construction may head to a strip mine thinking it's not much different and they soon wind up realizing that they are in way over their head. Loggers have it really rough, those are some really brave crews. Crazy stuff can get everyone sent home and out of work. Like if an Indiana Bat is found on mining property. Lol I am not making that up 😂
@thedozeroperatorman "Trial by fire".... I manage restaurants so its definitely a different scenario, but it boils down to the same thing, "I have X amount if experience" So I give them X amount of work to see if they're bullshitting me or not 😂
How does one get into this?? I only operate a 721G case wheel loader right now but I’m going for my license this spring for all of it. I don’t have any experience digging trenches for laying pipe or anything to do with it for that matter. Is there a specific class I could take first ? Or do I just get my license and start applying out west?
If you ever want to confuse the guy filming, just tell him to check to see if the light stays on when you close the fridge door. You have no business being on a jobsite.
It doesn't stay on....ive checked
Lmao
Neither does the guy in the excavator. Both Are morons.
A classic "When you lie on your resume" moment 😂
🤣🤣🤣 He's young and he'll learn. Accidents happen. Part of the learning process
Yeah he wanted buddy outta there from day one😂