love that you actually got an interview with sparg0 also its awesome you got to meet such cool people from the smash community and while plant may of been a troll pick (lmao he got in before Waluigi rip) and a pretty bad character hes still pretty fun to play as
There's a niche footstool setup that I like to use when I'm playing him. Whenever you can get your opponent trapped in your up b as you're going for ledge in a straight vertical motion, as soon as you grab ledge, ledge drop and footstool. The top players of my area get dooped by it, I first learned the setup as DK, because I'm a DK main, and turns out it works on the plant too lol.
@@TuesdayTastic it really is! The remixes they used for that game are legendary, but so under the radar! P.S: Bowser break dancing is the silliest thing you'll ever see.
Plant has a lot of power in specific moves, but I think the main thing the character is missing is just good normals. They don't at all fit the character's speed, which isn't near good enough to make up for their lack of range. Additionally, their frame data is also not amazing, with their safest move on shield being Uair at -6. Plant also doesn't have any good burst options, and doesn't exactly have a way to reliably zone their opponents either, All of this means that in order to enforce their gameplan, Plant has to take risks than other characters. And if you're up against characters with better range, speed, or frame data - which is basically almost the entire cast - that risk is only compounded. At the same time, a ton of characters get a lot more reward for when they do get their openings. Combine all of that, and the only real things Plant has going for them are good ledge-trapping, good kill power in the right situations, and being heavy while still maintaining decent speed. Even though their damage output can be amazing, the situations in which you get that reward are too few, while characters such as Sheik can hit you with one of their many safe moves and get the same if not greater reward. Or you're Kazuya. Or Min-Min.
As someone with a plant secondary, I feel that even though plant is slow, I don’t think that means lack of range The best way I’d describe my plants playstyle is a slow approach that is deadly when your in the space that plant dominates. Plant is really good at denying the opponent space using Neutral B and Side B. And Down B is a really good bait to try to get the opponent to approach. Back air is really good as “mini-Ivysaur Up air”. I think plant has potential to be a lower-mid tier but as of right now I don’t think many see his strengths
holy shit VLBBalong was the first player I matched up against in the Vancouver supernational GrandSlam. I’m glad to know I wasn’t the only one to get robbed
Kinda jealous, Gen X looked like a great time! Also super hyped for Cloud, he's one of my secondaries currently and I'd probably main him if Fox didn't exist
As a plant main, my biggest goal for Smash by this point is to show the potential of Piranha Plant. I understand why he is low tier, but you cannot tell me that he is worse than Lucario. That character is abysmal to play and only has a counter and his aura come back mechanic that allow him to be in C tier. Piranha Plant is in mid D tier and I really think these two characters should easily swap places on the tier list.
@@UmbraStarWolf I have 4 years of maining Daisy that I put away to start this series. My Daisy is worse now than she was when I mained her but I'm a better player overall because of this challenge. If I wanted to pick her up again it would take less than a week to get back to speed on her, and less than a month to do even better than I did in the past.
If anyone here is familiar with Clash Royale, piranha plant is like Mega Knight. It does amazing against lower skilled players but is easily countered the higher ranked you get.
I agree with this somewhat. I think that Piranha Plant has a lot more depth than one card in a game. While Piranha Plant has gimmicks that can be countered, I think that Piranha Plant has a lot more depth to his metagame and it just needs to develop more. Lucky has been consistently doing well with Piranha Plant this year and is showing that there's potential to this character.
Well I feel like he's more a bad character tied to ptooey, an incredibly stupid and strong move. Like little Mac's smash attacks. They are ridiculously good and little Mac's only good tools
Who on earth is regarding Plant as the worst character when Gannon exists? Lets see, Plant is a fighter with some of the strongest zoning tools in the game between down B and side B, a kill throw, and some of the best edge guarding in the roster. Contrast this with a glass cannon heavy with no neutral tools or mobility, and one of the most exploitable recoveries in the game. Seriously, the lowest I've seen people put Plant is in 6th or 7th place. Most people recognize that Plants kit has some potency.
I only play in person with my friend group so I’m kinda surprised to hear Piranha Plant is bad. I’m able to kick my friends’ asses with him fairly regularly.
Here's the secret about tier lists they don't really matter. It might matter at top level play but ultimate is so balanced that I'm not even sure about that these days.
That happened to me but I stopped playing and started to know myself, in the end I chose the Villager, even if he is not meta he is a character that I enjoy using him and that is what makes me happy haha ❤
love that you actually got an interview with sparg0 also its awesome you got to meet such cool people from the smash community and while plant may of been a troll pick (lmao he got in before Waluigi rip) and a pretty bad character hes still pretty fun to play as
I do love Plant but my boy Waluigi deserved it far more lol
Justice for Waluigi
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WALUIGI
plant is packing in that pot which is why he’s a borderline super heavy 😳
The sparg0 interview was really cool. It would be super interesting to hear from top players for all your characters
Maybe I should try to reach out more. Idk how to get in contact with them besides going to tournaments and that's expensive.
There's a niche footstool setup that I like to use when I'm playing him. Whenever you can get your opponent trapped in your up b as you're going for ledge in a straight vertical motion, as soon as you grab ledge, ledge drop and footstool. The top players of my area get dooped by it, I first learned the setup as DK, because I'm a DK main, and turns out it works on the plant too lol.
Oh that's really cool! I normally go for a spike there but a footstool seems far more consistent.
I appreciate the Mario Dance Dance Remix in the background chief. Your doing the lords work
It was recommended to me by one of my patrons very fun song!
@@TuesdayTastic it really is! The remixes they used for that game are legendary, but so under the radar!
P.S: Bowser break dancing is the silliest thing you'll ever see.
@@JaggedStoneOfficial well I know what I'm using for the green screen in my Bowser video lol
@@TuesdayTastic YES! That will be brilliant! I will be sure to tune in!
Plant has a lot of power in specific moves, but I think the main thing the character is missing is just good normals. They don't at all fit the character's speed, which isn't near good enough to make up for their lack of range. Additionally, their frame data is also not amazing, with their safest move on shield being Uair at -6. Plant also doesn't have any good burst options, and doesn't exactly have a way to reliably zone their opponents either, All of this means that in order to enforce their gameplan, Plant has to take risks than other characters. And if you're up against characters with better range, speed, or frame data - which is basically almost the entire cast - that risk is only compounded. At the same time, a ton of characters get a lot more reward for when they do get their openings. Combine all of that, and the only real things Plant has going for them are good ledge-trapping, good kill power in the right situations, and being heavy while still maintaining decent speed. Even though their damage output can be amazing, the situations in which you get that reward are too few, while characters such as Sheik can hit you with one of their many safe moves and get the same if not greater reward. Or you're Kazuya. Or Min-Min.
As someone with a plant secondary, I feel that even though plant is slow, I don’t think that means lack of range
The best way I’d describe my plants playstyle is a slow approach that is deadly when your in the space that plant dominates.
Plant is really good at denying the opponent space using Neutral B and Side B. And Down B is a really good bait to try to get the opponent to approach. Back air is really good as “mini-Ivysaur Up air”.
I think plant has potential to be a lower-mid tier but as of right now I don’t think many see his strengths
02:18 He is the 8th heaviest character in the game but not actually considered “super heavy”
8th out of 89 sounds pretty heavy to me idk
@@TuesdayTastic Yes but in the wiki where the weights are listed plant is not listed as a superheavy, and btw its just a minor detail great video
holy shit VLBBalong was the first player I matched up against in the Vancouver supernational GrandSlam. I’m glad to know I wasn’t the only one to get robbed
Kinda jealous, Gen X looked like a great time! Also super hyped for Cloud, he's one of my secondaries currently and I'd probably main him if Fox didn't exist
It kind of broke the bank lol but it was everything I wanted it to be. I'm going to try to go every year now if I can help it.
3k subs is the must criminal underrating of a great channel I've seen in ages
Thank you. I put a lot of hard work into this and this comment made me feel better about how I'm spending my effort.
I'd love to see dark pit/pit
Sames
As a plant main, my biggest goal for Smash by this point is to show the potential of Piranha Plant. I understand why he is low tier, but you cannot tell me that he is worse than Lucario. That character is abysmal to play and only has a counter and his aura come back mechanic that allow him to be in C tier. Piranha Plant is in mid D tier and I really think these two characters should easily swap places on the tier list.
9th at Diamond Dust might not be Plant's best placement.
Sparg0 destroying Chase in grands AND thug finals with Plant was HYPE.
You're plant is pretty hype man, nice video
I found out I am in a character crisis too. Not as many characters. despite my name Wolf is kinda boring ngl.
Well good thing there are 85 other characters to choose from
@@TuesdayTastic im just afraid all the years I spent maining him will go to waste
@@UmbraStarWolf I have 4 years of maining Daisy that I put away to start this series. My Daisy is worse now than she was when I mained her but I'm a better player overall because of this challenge. If I wanted to pick her up again it would take less than a week to get back to speed on her, and less than a month to do even better than I did in the past.
I don't have a switch, but if I get one
Plant gang will have an extra member
I forgot they added a plant as a playable character
The interview with Sparg0at is crazy! I definitely think Plant has potential, despite what the current meta has
If the meta were to shift towards combo characters I could see Plant doing really well in that.
holy shit this series is gonna take a minimum of 6 and a half YEARS. i hope ult stays that long so you can finally figure out your main.
I'm a quarter of the way done already after 1 year so it should only take 4 years! 🙃
@@TuesdayTastic oh shit ok. that's really fast, well, good luck!
In singles, piranha plant is total booty cheecks, but in doubles he is genuinely cracked.
Oh I absolutely agree. Piranha Plant takes the term stock tank literally.
i never realized he was regarded as being shit, everyone i ever play only complains about him being busted
He’s so bald
The baldest
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also its crazy you got a photo with a random guy who plays marth
Thank the lord you didn’t show paragon results because you actually beat me 2-0 with plant that week HAHA
Lol Plant cooked that week but I only went 2-2 so I decided to just focus on Genesis instead.
If anyone here is familiar with Clash Royale, piranha plant is like Mega Knight. It does amazing against lower skilled players but is easily countered the higher ranked you get.
I agree with this somewhat. I think that Piranha Plant has a lot more depth than one card in a game. While Piranha Plant has gimmicks that can be countered, I think that Piranha Plant has a lot more depth to his metagame and it just needs to develop more. Lucky has been consistently doing well with Piranha Plant this year and is showing that there's potential to this character.
havent watched it yet but plant is by far not the worst character
Well I feel like he's more a bad character tied to ptooey, an incredibly stupid and strong move. Like little Mac's smash attacks. They are ridiculously good and little Mac's only good tools
Like how creative your plant is
Thanks! I think that maining every character in the game is making each one more creative than the last!
I like trying to Main every character it can be fun, like I had a lot of fun with meta knight and plan to continue with him. The comboes are so cool.
Im subscribing exclusively based off the fact you've already done Dr Mario (who is the peakest character in all of smash)
Dr. Mario is peak love that character. Thanks for coming along for the ride!
Who on earth is regarding Plant as the worst character when Gannon exists? Lets see, Plant is a fighter with some of the strongest zoning tools in the game between down B and side B, a kill throw, and some of the best edge guarding in the roster. Contrast this with a glass cannon heavy with no neutral tools or mobility, and one of the most exploitable recoveries in the game.
Seriously, the lowest I've seen people put Plant is in 6th or 7th place. Most people recognize that Plants kit has some potency.
Hey hey hey! Like 3 worst come on let the plant grow. Good vid as always.
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I only play in person with my friend group so I’m kinda surprised to hear Piranha Plant is bad. I’m able to kick my friends’ asses with him fairly regularly.
Here's the secret about tier lists they don't really matter. It might matter at top level play but ultimate is so balanced that I'm not even sure about that these days.
6:04 oh my fucking god
you think he'll end up your main by the end of the character crisis?
Plant has a very good chance.
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These are pretty cool things to do I concur
quick question are you lds? btw love the content bro 🔥as usual
I grew up LDS but am no longer religious. Thanks for the compliment!
@@TuesdayTastic same! np
i just had to wonder cuz u said u were driving from salt lake keep it up bro!
Plant is real
did you procrastinate Tuesday?
This video took me so long because I had to make 2 other videos first lol. These things are time consuming
Nice video 🎉
I have a friend who mains plant and little mac, he was better than me for a while. I had to learn to love plant lol
They are a goofy little guy and I love them for it.
The worst is ganon
the title worked! getting people to say that to boost engagement
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your just like me dont know who to play
It's a curse but like all the characters are so much fun is it really a curse?
That happened to me but I stopped playing and started to know myself, in the end I chose the Villager, even if he is not meta he is a character that I enjoy using him and that is what makes me happy haha ❤