Which boat to choose? Tom Cunliffe has some ideas
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- Опубликовано: 4 мар 2023
- Choosing a sailing boat for cruising? Even if you aren't about to do it, there's lots in here to spark off further interest. If you're thinking about changing, or buying your first, watch now. You won't be wasting your time!
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I absolutely love these informative videos. I've just bought a 1968 Contessa 26. A boat to get looked after in. I can't wait to get her back out where she belongs!
That's great advice you don't get from people these days. Wisdom to be trusted.
Always a pleasure watching! That full keeler is a charm.. Those modern boats really are tough on the eyes 🤢
Spot on Tom! When I studied naval architecture in centuries gone by (just after Archimedes retired I think,) we learned that the first step in any process - be it design, modification or selection, was the "mission statement." If you aren't sure of what you want to do you can't pick the right tool out of the box!
For myself, I prefer boats like the first one you looked at, classical in shape, good performance and inherently safe. Boats like the S&S 34, 39, Swansons, Duncanson 35, Cole 35 etc are what I would choose. Even the little Swanson 30 that I race on regularly offers a lot of boat for not a lot of expense.
Modern boats do nothing for me, and ditto long keel boats are not my thing.
Tom I normally love your videos, however, the audio on this one is so quiet I cannot hear what you are saying, something went terribly wrong.
Yes, the first half of the video has muffled sound.
I had no problem with sound
Yep. Sound problems here too.
Regarding tenderness. a few years ago I bought a Swan 411, which ended up being more tender than I thought it would be, and at first I worried that I had made a mistake. In many discussions, tenderness is described as an undesirable characteristic, but after sailing my boat in many conditions it turns out that the abundant tenderness is one of my favorite facets of the design. There are just too many good things to say about how the design aspects come together to make this boat an excellent sailing vessel. I now understand how tenderness relates to beneficial performance, sensitivity, and comfort. So, as a single quality, IMHO, tenderness doesn't deserve a reputation.
Always a pleasure to hear Tom's thoughts
We did all the analysis of what we wanted for our 4th boat and ended up with one that surprised me but did everything we needed. The I stupidly looked at a much bigger one in tatty condition. We tried to list all of the negative points but still bought her - She is marvellous!
I like old boats. They're pretty with chactacter.
Great content as always. Small note: the audio was quite poor on this one, something has been changed for the worse.
The Hustler 35 looks fine to me. Also like Rustler 36 as i'm a Long Keel Guy :-) Myself sailing Elizabethan 29.
I just love that your favorite boat is a Hustler 35! I sail one, in Belgium, since 2013, and love her too ;-)
My dream boat would be an original Bristol Pilot cutter built in Pill, Somerset…Unfortunately it’s a little out of my price range!!
The deep water cruiser is the type of boat I like it’s a solid looking boat and it looks like it can take you any where like your video.
I’ve also heard the term ‘there’s no replacement for displacement’ so I know which of those 3 boats I’d prefer to be in a storm in!
I'd rather be in the house that day.
Another great video Tom
Thank you Tom, I always look forward to your videos.
As always , informative and interesting thank you .
Another great vid, thanx.
Great video Tom ! Hope to see you in the spring for the launch of Growler !
When the Royal Navy takes possession of a new ship the vessel undergoes HATS & SATS. Harbour Acceptance Trials & then Sea Acceptance Trials. Only after the successful completion of both is the manufacturer's fee completed. A worthy attitude when buying a yacht from any manufacturer or vendor.
Slowly working my way through all your videos Tom, another informative video, thankyou. Being fairly new to sailing I have recently purchased an Arietta 31, long keel not much accommodation but enough for 2/3 which is all I need, hope to cruise around N.Ireland and Western Scotland over the next few years
What a brilliant video.
Wonderful tutorial Tom! Thank you! My wife and I are in this process right now. Very helpful advice. ⛵️✌️🤩
I’d go for a classic Broom
Admiral wooden broads cruiser. 😍😎
Such basic comments. So much truth. Thank you Tom!!!
Thanks, Tom for an interesting and informative video.
I think I agree with Tom's preferences in preferring a1970
type of Yacht.
Personally, I started with a Skerry cruiser S-30 after 12 years
I changed for a bigger more comfortable Yacht as the family grew in number and size.
The next one was an HR 352, also a 1970-type design with an aft cabin.
I think you must also consider how much effort you have to put into sailing your Yacht.
The S-30 was extraordinary in sailing without effort, easily sailing with not much sail. I sailed from Ystad to Helsingfors in just 10 days
( 60 miles a day) with my two girls 12/14 years of age. The 12 year
Mia was very good at sailing with a full Tri-radial spinnaker at 7-9 knots downwind. The boat was perfectly balanced.
Now after 36 years with HR 352 I sold my yacht last summer.
Today I enjoy watching Tom's videos and taking part in the Zoom meetings every month.
I do love a heavy, long-keeled older boat. Unfortunately, while head and heart do the required work, the bank manager has the final say :)
Hi Tom, can ask the make a model of the first boat.
I'm interested too.
A Victoria 30 or Island Packet 29 on my wish list. Solo or two up cruising in Adriatic and Aegean. Comfortable in a seaway.
If you like to row and don't have much space to keep it on board, consider a banana boat.
My best boat was a Norman Cross 40' Trimaran.
some boats get to you.. for me its the Malö lineup.
I’m looking for a new sailboat I got my eye on some. But the type I’m looking at is a cruiser live aboard size around 35 to 45 feet.
That looks like a Cobra 850 behind you Tom? A great boat for a first timer.
The best boat for anyone is the one you can afford and get to regular!
So I currently own a triednt 24 which is abismaly slow. As such when I look for a new boat in about 5 years, any thing will be an improvment.
Our latest one sort of choose us - slightly out of the blue. She is not unlike Tom's, if a little shorter.
I love my Galion 22 the boat owned by the creator of Howard's Way it inspired the TV show. I would like you to sail her one day I am planning to sail her in the Jester Challenge. As I have said previously my dream boat is the lemsteraak I will have one, one day.
Boats can be comfortable, fast, and cheap. You can have any two of these qualities in a given boat, but not all three. :)
Well said , good study. Honestly even though I’m kind of old school I would go for a slightly less extreme version of the twin rudder one . So much more boat. I’ll be interested to see if they come out with a twin engine version of some sort, possibly even twin electric with a diesel generator .
With a good sailing boat, you shouldn’t need much engine anyway if you’re prepared to sail to windward.
Skegs? Over rated look at the 2 years it took Nigel Calder to fix his broken skeg when he had a bump, compared to a simple spade that could have been just a few days to replace. ( check out story in proboatbuilder mag)
Cheers Warren
JPK were extolling the virtues (in port manoeuvrability wise) of twin electric drives, fitted to a JPK 45 FC (Fast Cruiser) which they'd just commissioned, when I visited their yard, in Lorient, last summer........
Is it just me or is the audio on this video fluctuating and not up to your usual standard?
Great stuff !
There are wooden ships - and little ships - tall ships and fast ships - but the best ships of all - is Friendships - and that's what counts.
Hi Tom, you need to turn up the volume pal. I can only just hear you with the volume on full
Very nice video, what was the first boat ? A Contessa 32 ?
Not a CO32 possibly a SS34?
Does anyone have a Vertue(sic) Class yacht? Atlantic material.
what actually is your boat?
He's keeping it a secret 🙊
Can you tell us what the first 2 are? You said the 2nd one is a Jars or Jaws or something?
Good question, but I just chose them as genetic types. You'll find plenty more of similar characteristics.
I'd guessed the first to be an Ohlson 35 or 38, also a bit like a Hustler, (although they had a bolt on keel), the second was a Laurent Giles 38, rare boats.
I reckon the Colvic Watson/s epitomise the classic sailing boat. Could never understand why the Colvic company went pear-shaped. What became of their moulds? And why did they go bust?
They got shafted by the organisers of the Round the World Challenge when they changed the lengths of the boats and Colvic had already invested all their money in a smaller boat mold.
@@grahamsmith7394 Really? Considering their vast range of different types and sizes of power and sailing boats all their eggs wouldn't have been in the same basket which would put them in a stronger position to weather a storm.
Govt VAT changes on boats killed the UK industry
What model is boat one?
I don't actually know, I'm afraid. it's just a great boat. Could be an Ohlson or an Ericson.
Looks a lot like a Shipman 28, not sure.
So what were these 3 boats actually?
For the love of God someone buy him a mic please...