Will all the love she has for herself, there's none left for Will, Willow or Jaden she is all about her power, her intelligence, her godlike ability to know ALL the answers. I'm surprised she hasn't started a cult!
I can't even watch her. I find her quite sinister. The arrogance. The theatrical overconfidence. The fake air of being superior in emotional intelligence. I've been on the brunt end of a narcissist in my life, and still have some trauma from it, although I could and did in the end walk away. For those who don't or can't walk away, I feel very sorry.
I honestly find Jada appalling. She's openly abusing her husband, who has been nothing but supportive and loving towards her. She has done so for years and if you line up every interview those two ever had together, you can actually watch him crumble and decline . It's honestly heartbreaking. I don't even wanna know whats going on behind closed doors and how the kids are suffering from this. It's just heartbreaking to watch. I honestly wonder if the public would be so compassionate towards Will, if the Johny/Amber lawsuit didn't pave the way for people to finally understand that women can absolutely be the villain in an abusive relationship.
Absolutely agree, but what else to expect, if their daily life and their upbringing consisted of Jada being like that towards their father? I'm honestly convinced she turned them deliberately against their Dad, to have supporters for her actions. Narcissists need an audience and crave applause.
Jayden Smith wanted to "divorce" his parents when he was 14 or 15..if i remember correctly. There's been talk ( gossip of course) from years and years back, from the black community of Hwood that Jada and Will were hosting uhuummm..Parties^ in their house, and that both kids witnessed what was going on. So on so forth. I dunno but i have a hunch that once Jadas closet door comes flying open there will be so many skeletons that has been hidden in there that it'll take a minute to process it all. As said, just a HUNCH. I wouldn't walk on the same side of the street as this woman.
@koppsr I agree with you. The only way to explain it is jealousy. She hates him because he is, or was, loved by many and she doesn't get the same adoration from people. She hates him and it's obvious to anyone with half a brain. Will, on the other hand, is an idiot putting up with all the nonsense she has piled on him. Hopefully he wakes up some day soon.
She broke Will in that red table talk video. You can see clearly the hurt in his eyes. She has no shame or remorse. She is an embarassment to women. I don't dislike her, but dislike how she has treated her husband/partner with such hatred and disreguard.
I call it acting. He already knew everything, and she knew he did. She was completely blindsided by the conversation. Will played her on that occasion, not the other way around.
@@JenMaram63How was she completely blindsided by the conversation when she orchestrated the conversation & knew what the conversation was going to be about???
As a woman, I'm so sick & ashamed that we ended up with these people. Jada Rachael & Amber . They're all narcissistic egomaniacs . None of them can own up to what they did it's disgusting. I hope Will divorces her. My God, she had an affair, not an entanglement with her sons friend. Imagine the mental and emotional damage that caused Jayden & Will.
Will Smith. How unbelievably unfortunate. You know how beloved he was in the 90s and 2000s. Gosh! He really loves her. Bc he could have bounced a long time ago and found 10 others girls. But he loves his family. And did not want to be the one to break it. To his own detriment. She don’t want him. She just wants control.
@@losrajvosa0078people marry young these days? No So we definitely marry late, My ex had amazing job and I did too. We were 21, graduated from top university. Got campus placements. He wanted to enter into investment banking, I was happy. But he wanted me to have that fast paced life too. I was suffering from huge uterus issue, so I said no. I said I need this pace to take care of my health. I am happy I took that decision. I was ready to wait, I waited 6 years and more. Now I know he loves “ambitious” women, not women with work life balance. He says my education is a waste as I could have been working in top firms. But who will tell him that I have had 5 doctors operating to save me. Who will tell him that all those painful days have made me choose bliss over bank balance. My prayers matter to me more than a chair at board meetings. He is a nice person, he understands somethings. But he cannot compromise his vision. So despite the love I had, I lost the love to the over ambitious world. Well but I hope I am blessed with a man worthy of my love.
Years back when they were getting married, she said, I don't want his babies hanging on me." I thought Will was crazy not to notice this woman was already insulting him, give it 20 years, she will shred him. Here we are.
Just imagine bragging on TV how fucking someone who was barely an adult as well as their son's best friend was one of the best moments in your life. Regardless of the abuse she puts Will through, how can she not see how utterly embarrassing that is? Don't even get me started on how weird this 'woman of color' narrative is, because we all know that if it had been a man going after the best friend of his daughter who's barely 20, we'd all side-eye him as the filthy groomer he is. As a woman I can acknowledge that there is a double standard when it comes to female predators, so if anything she gets off easy because she's a woman.
It is so nice to hear women like yourself speaking out against evil persona of most ladies nowdays on the west. Not all man or woman are rude and so sinister like jada so tnx. 4 that much love 🌹
Yea I don't understand how the media is ok with her having sex with someone that's their kids friend who was also experiencing severe health AND mental health issues. Plus, he later said she broke his heart. She basically used up a sick young kid for her ego.
Here’s what I want to know. How long were Jaden and August friends? Since they were little boys? Teenagers? This is an important question, and I’ve never heard mention of it. Did these young men become friends since age 18? I ask because if they were childhood friends, and spending a lot of time at each other’s houses ie hanging out, sleepovers etc. This would put an even more sinister twist on an already abhorrent act. EDIT: If anyone knows please post, thank you.
While supposedly supporting and helping her son's best friend she committed a sexual relationship with him. That's all I need to know. That's all anyone should need to know.
'Helping' him overcome an addiction. She swooped in when he was in a very vulnerable state. Poor kid was dealing with withdrawals on top of dealing with the trauma he was using the drugs to numb himself from. Imo, that makes it even worse.
Agree. Having a sexual experience with your young adult son's friend is beyond inappropriate. Your role with your children's friends, no matter at what age they are, is the mother role.
Exactly, the marriage/infidelity was not what struck me as nefarious, it was using the guise of helping a vulnerable young man to boost her fragile (aging) ego.
Narcissists are parasites in nature. They must latch on to a partner source for fuel and control. They won’t let go until they find a new partner source. A very few lucky victims break away and escape
Are you seeing how they truly behave in the world, or are you only seeing a glimpse of what the media allows you to see? I would argue that, if you are not involved with a narcissist, you really can't grasp the full scope.
@@stellaallbright4750 Totally - most people don't see the person who masks themselves as Mr Nice or Mrs Nice to the world. They have a different persona indoors.
I’m a female and a person of color. Imo, you nailed it on the definition of equality: to hold both sexes accountable for their actions, not just one sex over the other. Love your content, Pluto! ❤
Exactly , she always uses this phrase with heavy emphasis for dramatic effect , it is pretentious and has caused more damage then healing . What planet does she exist on ?@@AdultThirdCultureKid1971
Her talking about her sons friend August being so unwell and in need of help and what does Jada do? She preys on him sexually saying she just wanted to 'feel good!' 😮
The saddest thing is that Will, Johnny and even Harry could do sooo much better without their toxic partners. They could have better lives for themselves and their families. We should all learn how to recognize and avoid toxic people. And thank you Pluto for teaching us how to do that!
I love how people are completely disregarding how she used and abused August, leaving him in a MORE damaged place than he was before Jada decided she needed to “feel good” at his expense. She’s a nasty witch who burns through everybody around her. NOBODY is safe around her. And that’s not even touching on her massive parade of lies that people can clearly and obviously debunk. Nobody’s asking her about any of the bull💩 she’s peddling. EVER. It’s mind boggling to me.
Would anyone even know who this woman is without her involvements with men? Same with MM and AH. They so desperately want to be famous that they go to any lengths to achieve it, but it eats them alive inside that they can’t accomplish it on their own through hard work and talent. That is why their underlying bitterness and anger shines through in everything they do. No matter what they accomplish they will always know deep inside that it is fraudulent and meaningless.
Everything Will has achieved, she has destroyed his life, career, parenting, their marriage. Will was friends with Chris Rock, and he was laughing. But yes Will made a choice that day. Jada was the instigator! Allowing Will's daughter to write letters to Tupac to come back and make her mommy happy again! I see Jada as the villain bc she gas-lit will at the red table. Turning it into he not being able to accept her "entanglement ". We all saw it but she can't see anything but herself. He was the super star not Tupac, or Jada. I don't watch Jada movies, I watch Will Smith movies. He wrote a book and she destroyed its release. Now I see her book on shelves at stores and it makes me as sick as Amber Heard, Jaimie Lynne Spears, and Meghan Markle!
I was abused by my ex husband and when dating I heard harrowing stories of men being abused by women. Here in Panama, I hear a lot about the things done to improve abused women situation. There is even a Ministry of Women Afairs or so it's called. Society needs to acknowledge and support that although women might be the majority of the total of people abused we shouldn't turn our backs to abused men. The abuse men suffer is not that often physical but that doesn't mean it's less traumatic. I have to say I did find that particular Red Table talk about the entanglement disgusting. I didn't know Augustus was her son's friend something I heard not so long ago. She not only hurt Will but if I was her son I would have felt guilty for introducing them. Worst of all I've seen pictures of her parading with Augustus. She has no consideration whatsoever for Will's feelings. As you rightly pointed, if it would have been the other way around I cannot imagine the amount of criticism that would have sprung from everywhere. It seems Jada things she deserves some sort of accolade for standing for women rights. To me, it seems she is advocating for right of women to be as abusive and mean as some men are.
Watched a TV show decades ago that claimed that the secret to happiness was being able to put other's needs above your own. Live for something other than yourself. The gratification that you feel after helping others - children, grandchildren, a beloved animal - was true happiness. Narcissists who don't care about any one else and only care about themselves will never be happy.
I’m a couple years younger than Jada so I remember when she first came into the spotlight and also when she married Will. I knew there was something not right with her from the word go and wondered aloud why someone like Will, seemingly nice and normal, would marry someone like Jada, an abrasive, unlikeable person. At the time, I had no idea what I was seeing but in grad school I learned about the signs that were making me not like her. She has always been like this and has always used the isms” card. The reason she’s had such a lackluster career is not because she can’t act or that she wanted to raise children, but because her narcissism is so apparent that it transfers across the screen and people don’t like her. They may not know why, but they don’t. She’s been furious since and takes it out on everyone, including her husband.
I remember not really knowing about her while watching Scream 2. She was on-screen for a short period of time, but I was not sorry that the character was the first to go. So, yeah, "we" probably do dislike her without really knowing the reason (and it's always been that way).
I felt the same way in the 90's. I remember seeing a picture of them together and wondered what the heck he saw in her. I loved the Matrix but when she got cast in one of them, it instantly turned me off and never saw it because I felt her energy would've ruined the movie for me.
@@benadams3569I guess the oh commenter is referring to the generation observing and evaluating Jada's behavior. What is relevant is the group that Carrie's more relative weight in the Zeitgeist (Millennials/GenZ). Jada's narrative would've had zero supporters in the 50s.
I have no proof but I agree. If she had it, it would have been only to a mild extent. I know what a true case of alopecia looks like (not me, a close friend).
There is a plastic surgeon on youtube, Doctor Gary Linkov, who suffers himself from a severe form of alopecia and has become a specialist on hair transplant. He explained that Jada did not have alopecia, if at all it might be some form of traction alopecia, what many black women have after years of dense hairstyles, where the hairline declines. He explained that the small scarf on her forehead comes from plastic surgery, facelift, whatever. She was never bald, she shaved her head as a fashion statement to gain attention.
If this woman were white she would understand that the colour of anyone skin is of no importance these days. We got over that over a quarter of a century ago. However, behaviour, good or bad stays more or less the same over and over. Good is still important, as it right, loyal, ethical and kind among many other characteristics that can stand the test of time.
When I watched the Red Table Talk episode that discussed this topic, I was stunned by Jada's cruelty towards Will and ability to justify absolutely everything. It was "an entanglement" rather than an affair. When Jada said something about being happy that she had been able to help her son's best friend "heal" through that experience, it told me all I needed to know about her! What a saint! Jada almost seemed to relish saying these things to Will. It was shocking and disturbing to the nth degree!
how does sex with an older woman, your friends mom, who is married, help you HEAL anything? You become the dirty secret, your first experience is someone taking advantage of you, omg
She thinks because she was unhappy, she had the right to make him unhappy. She also claimed to take advantage of August, simply for her own personal happiness. It's Jaded (Pun intended) to exploit others for self glorification.
Jada doesn’t want will she just doesn’t want anyone else to have him , she’s a covert narcissist, a control freak , I hope will meets someone else he oozes unhappiness.
As a woman 2 years older than Jada, we did NOT go around whining about the patriarchy or feeling sorry for ourselves because of “big bad power hungry men.” On the contrary, we coming of age Gen X women felt empowered, like we could do and be anything we wanted to and recognized how privileged we were to grow up in the time we did. We had amazing female role models to look up to like Charlie’s Angels, Wonder Woman, Sarah Connor and Princess Leia - all kick ass women that didn’t need to emasculate men to prove their capabilities. “The Patriarchy” wasn’t even a term in our Gen X lexicon. But I’m not surprised that a narcissist like Jada would pull it out now because it suits her narrative.
One thing that keeps getting overlooked as well is how inappropriate and disgusting it was for Jada to mess around with her son’s friend. That impacts not just Will, but her son, Jaden. Jaden is a strange kid, but he has feelings…how would any of us feel with our parents being separated, and then your mom sleeps around with your friend?? What lunacy! And her way of justifying abnormal parenting strategies and marriage “labels” may possibly have both of her kids gaslit into thinking all of this is normal.
Jada went along with the happily married Hollywood power couple narrative for years. It benefitted and suited her. Then, there was The Red Table Talk debacle. Calling an affair with her son's best friend "an entanglement" in front of her husband. Mocking and humiliating him publicly. Major backlash. Now, as she promotes her memoir, she changes the narrative. Says that she and Will separated 6 years ago. Gets more major backlash. Now, talks about trying to heal and repair their "relationship." As you aptly say here: "she's a villain of her own doing."
It’s not just her indifference to Will’s feelings. She is even more indifferent to emotional damage she inflicted on August, who was much more vulnerable than Will. She just keeps emphasizing how GOOD the whole thing was for HER. Her rationalization and psychobabble are off the charts. She is only happy when she is denigrating Will. I think this is at least partially rooted in her jealousy of his success.
You can even see how intimidating she can be. Multiply her manipulative, bully-ish attitude which she obviously had to control while the cameras were on ... and you can see how toxic and abusive their private relationship is. Will has been in it sooo long and has been so damaged I dont think she could make a better marriage with someone else if he tried . Harry will possibly be the same.
So on point. No interviewer challenged her platitudes. I have seen the interviews only as i watched the Behavior Panel review them. A very unlikable narcissist.
The “patriarchy” excuse doesn’t hold true for us older folks either. I learned the hard way that my father was massively manipulated by my narcissistic mother throughout his marriage to her. When she finally left him n a very heartless way, the change in him was remarkable. He was a different, better man once she no longer was living with him, while she became even more destructive, manipulative and vindictive. That experience really changed my perspective on the supposedly powerless women/powerful man formula thinking.
Had same dynamic growing up its infuriating & sick to hear these women play victim card. The men they break,damage & destroy are Nothing whatsoever to them but something to bend & use at their will & for their benefit nothing more.
Let's not forget that 'sad' and 'broken' and 'uncomfortable' Will is a talented actor. I think he's focused on his career which took a hit after the slap (and which he'd probably like to go in a new direction). Seems, though, that she can get away with doing anything she wants to Will because he's got it all: wealth, looks, talent, a huge career, popularity. She's cashing in at the very end of her marriage. (Wonder if there is a pre-nup?)
She never thought that all these interviews would come back and bite her in the ass. It’s like she compartmentalized each conversation as a moment in time and wouldn’t add up to anything.
Thanks for dropping your rational truth bomb that I’ve come to expect from you. You make it easier to understand the word vomit from these “public figures” and validate that it’s not me who’s crazy.
As a lady old enough to be The Smith woman's mother I find her attitude disgraceful. It does the biggest disservice to women of all ages, but mostly to women younger than her who may think that behaviour is acceptable. I feel exceptional empathy for young men who must be afraid of their own shadow in this atmosphere of narcissistic, nay spiteful women. I am bewildered as to why they find it necessary to belittle men. I'm truly grateful I grew up in a world where people knew who they were & had a role in life which they could be proud of without the need to denigrate anyone.
It's not just an "affair" it was with her sons friend who came to stay because he was broken....she took advantage of a young wounded man. Turn these tables as if Will had an affair with his daughters wounded friend who came to their house for refuge.
I’m a 60 year old woman who grew up in the US. By the 80s, women had achieved their goal of work equality. Slowly “feminism” became corrupted and much like the trans movement, it has become a victim movement seeking not equality or acceptance, but absolute power for perceived slights.
Yes yes I agree as a woman in my 60s who also grew up in US. I’m so grateful I never bought into the whole feminist movement . And everyone is a victim is becoming a very old song
Agreed! I, too, am in my early 60s (not sure how Pluto will feel about all the 60 year old women in her audience, but I think it speaks well for her). I never really bought into the feminist movement either, but believed that if you wanted equality, go out there and get it. No favors, no complaining, just do the work (whatever it was) and if you felt you were not getting paid enough, go and state your case. Or, in my case, go into business for yourself. I know it's not as easy as it sounds, nor is it as hard as some will make it sound. I am not a victim and I will not claim to be so because of my race, age or gender. I am really sick to the back teeth of all of the victim mentality I am seeing in the world today. I don't think it bodes well for the future.
All about her. She's just evil. Selfish because if you care about someone truly care you wouldn't hurt someone like that. Found herself, while screwing around with your sons best friend. And it made me feeeeelllll so good. No no no. This is soooo sad to see that women could really be so cold. Words truly fail me. 😮😢
I never compare myself to celebrities, simply because I think they have very different lives than most of us. However I saw aspects of myself in Will, I saw a lot of pain. Pain doesn’t discriminate, whether you’re rich, famous or working class or poor etc. I’ve loved someone so deeply, and gave many precious years of my life to. He broke my heart in every way imaginable. I see the pain and shattered soul I am now left with in Will. I see someone who’s been pushed to breaking point like I was and then blamed for it. I see a victim of abuse, coercive control, gaslighting and more. It’s painful to see another human being go through this and unacceptable. I hope Will can find some peace away from such a toxic situation and woman. He’s a legend, a great actor and I truly believe what we saw in the Oscars is not him. I hope the truth comes out, that he tells the world how he got there. What led to it, open up! I’m sure people will let him into their hearts again. ❤
That's a loveless marriage and it's up to them to deal with it. However, let's not pretend that Jada would have left if she could earn a ton without Will. They probably agreed to discreet relationships and Jada didn't adhere to that 🤷 I'm over the both of them.
Also I’m sick of legacy media writing about criticism of celebrities as “wrong” or “racist/sexist” or “you idiots in the public just don’t understand,” like for some reason being a journalist makes you more capable of understanding a persons psychology … some of us idiots in the general public are actually psychologists. Look here journalists, if the celebrities are going to put their shit out there, we have every right to critique and criticize. If they don’t want criticism then they shouldn’t air their dirty laundry to billions of people.
My husband and I had been together for 40 years, and very sadly he passed away. if we decided sometime during those 40 years we where not sure if this is what we wanted to do for the rest of our lives and decided to do the separation, wouldn't you use that time to see how you can do as single person. Where you have only your self to think about and if that is what you wanted in life. Not to go jump into another relationship, wouldn't that defeat the point of doing it on your own, not to jump back into something you are separating yourself from. Me personally would have gone straight back to my husband
What makes her even more dangerous is her cosplay as a life guru for women. I remember the video where Jada keep recording Will eventho he told her not to, and Jada being dismissive as usual just went on and acted as if Will was being unreasonable for not wanting to be recorded. The audacity of this manipulative woman. Abusive women don't often to be violent but they break your spirit gradually until you believe you deserve all the hurt.
It definitely doesn't help her cause, that Will has been deafeningly quiet, throughout this whole saga. His head is probably still spinning😵💫😵💫😵💫🤷♀️🤯🤣🤣🤣
Learning about narcissist and how they control their family members has been so helpful to me and I understand so many things that have caused heartache and suffering, self blaming and hate for not being able to achieve the love, acceptance and expectations of my mother has been easily explained finally as a 53 year old woman I'm able to accept myself and be free from the impossible demands that killed my brothers
Dear Pluto You have nailed it…yet again. A most detailed analysis on accountability and the consequences of bad behavior. Yes she had emasculated Will through her actions…. And she needs to apologize… simple as that. Period. If she thinks her behavior is beyond reproach she’s a true narcissist. Again this is crystal clear. Period. Pluto… you have outlined the dangers of reinterpreting poor and bad behavior …as being acceptable… ??most ppl will definitely not accept her bad behavior. Not in good society and we have to draw the line clearly with a big bold marker. Sorry folks …most of us who have lived a life with good conscience will consider Jada a villain. Period. Agree wholeheartedly with your views Pluto…👏👏❤
Humanity is full of compassion and good conscience. This results in kind actions and good behavior. If mistakes are made then sincere apologies must be given. Period. Excuses cannot be given in the form of isms… sexism..? racism…? As a public figure you shd have a higher set of moral standards … not succumb to more wrongdoings like manipulation?? Society n good ppl have to speak out for the moral compass of humanity. Period. Dear Pluto… thks v much for yr moral compass that nudges us in the right direction… always. Kudos….👏👏🌹🌹
That Red Table Talk is the purest example of narcissistic abuse ever put to film. Will is devastated, humiated, and strruggling to keep composure. Jada appears almost gitty as she excuses entangling her sons friend. The more emotional damage Will sustains the more Jada smirks in satisfaction. By the end of the segment Will is gaslit into oblivion as the couple celebrate their failing marriage with a BadBoys reference. Little did Will know his marriage ended in 2016, nullifying this entire dumpsterfire character arc.
I remember the first time I viewed the red table "entanglement" vid. Anyone with blood pumping through their heart could tangibly feel Will's hurt and humiliation. It made me feel so cringe! And I thought to myself what on earth could he have done to deserve THAT?! That was the defining moment that started my strong distaste for that bish.
It's not just Will. August has come out and done interviews talking about how much damage the relationship with Jada did to him. That he was really sick and he was devoted to her and she just used him when he was young and extremely vulnerable.
I having been encouraging ( forcing) my 5 sons, age 15-25 to watch your show to demonstrate the kind of women to avoid. Not only are they learning, but they all think your beautiful, high praise from generation z.
I can't even see a picture of Jada without hearing "It had been SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO long since, I'd, felt. GOOD." Or look at Rachel Zegler without hearing, "weird, WEIRD!"
I think she’s jealous of her husband’s success and fame. She got nowhere as an actress, so has to draw attention to herself by other means. The way she humiliates that man is appalling. So much for the idea of supporting one’s partner!
there is a similarity between jada and meghan in the way they talk: both use their hands while talking and saying ''right?'' at the end of their sentences is a way of manipulating and getting the interviewer on their side.
Will Smith got up and smacked another man in the face at the Oscar Ceremony. He and his wife had been separated from their marriage for years when that happened. To me, they were never the actions of a man who was humiliated. They were the "don't you know who I am" bullying of someone who believed another was beneath him in his scale of black American Hollywood stars. Slapping someone back into his place. Sorry, there is two sides. Jada has made bad decisions, of that there is no doubt. But, who wants to live with a needy, aggressive person. He set her up on that round table talk, she was completely blindsided and he relished in her public humiliation. At least with Jada, she exposes herself through words and actions, what you see and hear is what you get. Will Smith is another story altogether.
When they laughed saying ‘Bad Marriage for life’ while fist bumping, I thought to myself ‘how about you both just go away, go away and leave everyone alone’. Isn’t it bad enough people stay in awful relationships because they don’t have the financial freedom to leave their awful spouse?
Never heard of her before “the slap”. I learned a little abt her since but won’t follow her because she doesn’t make sense, she is not interesting. If I met her socially I would be looking to escape after 15 min. Will smith needs therapy.
I think she wants him to throw in the towel but he wont because he doesn't want to give up half his fortune. She's waging a public humiliation campaign against him but he's stubborn. I want to see what she comes up with next because so far nothing has worked and she really needs that 200 million dollars or whatever the amount is.
I would love to see all 3 of them.. Amber Jada and Megan compared side to side to show more about what narcs look like for each emotion and scenario as I'm sure it would be very enlightening to the rest of us normal people
When you go around getting with not only son’s friends, but a friend who was dealing with trying to free himself from a substance addiction, you used your position of power to get what you wanted from the situation. It doesn’t matter if he felt affection, it was on her to say no we aren’t going there. But she went there. And it doesn’t matter what gender you are, that is really unethical.
I blame Jada for everything. But as a black woman i know my ladies, shes not just doing this. WILL must have done some mistakes back in the days, and she cant forgive. This is something our ladies have. We want to make it work but then keep the anger. Its not fair to WILL
Pretty sure she paid for every article that paints her as the victim. It’s common practice here in Los Angeles. You can pay for a full page, a half page, or a quarter page, and just have somebody propagate whatever narrative you’d like.
Wow....did Jada literally distill her affair down to the iconic "we were on a break..." from Friends?!? That's some weapons grade gaslighting right there. She's unbelievable. Fascinating from a case study perspective, but she's downright destructive. She'll never let him go. She doesn't want him (she's made that SUPER clear) but doesn't want anyone else to have him either. She can't risk him going off and finding true happiness. She'll never be happy...so he can't be either. Very sad. Excellent perspective LBP. Keep up the great work and cheers from Canada!
She was on ‘The One Show’ here in the Uk plugging her book last week. Was an interesting brief interview in the fact that the hosts didn’t really engage with her narrative, just giving her the opportunity to say that the book is out. It was short and I think she was a bit taken aback.
Also, the modern day era's definition of narcisissm is one of the few things I'd trade for the old version of it, because at least Narcissus wasn't engaged in any toxic relationships and only wished to court himself.
I think Jemele Hill, who is African American, used to work for ESPN. They fired her over something she wrote a while ago. Now she's working for "The Atlantic" apparently. She seems to like creating controversy.
I bet she even blames Will for living off his money. No wonder their kids are so screed up and unhappy. A woman who emotionally abuses her husband does the same to her kids.
What a cruel, evil, controlling and a sick woman! She wants the whole cake and eat it but hang to her husband when and if things don’t work out. Let go of her husband if she wants to screw around. Will Smith should have balls to tell her NO! Either you’re in the marriage or out!
Even Thelma, Lady Furness and Wallis Simpson had the good grace to let their loving husbands go (rather than keeping them on the back burner) while they carried on affairs with the fickle Edward, Prince of Wales.
Will must not of had a strong Dad or a strong male figure in his life. I have no idea, I’m just now hearing about this. I think sick women like this seek out men like that
There are a lot of red flags. Yes, she's a narcissist. Yes it's their life and we are being judgemental. Even on the podcast Oldish with a Dancing with a Star, Brian Austin Green and Randy Spelling they talked about this and they seemed to give Jada a break. Honestly, Jada, Amber and Meghan is showing young women that it's okay be a narcissist. What's wrong is right in their eyes. Which is why I don't like it when people look up to celebrities idolicstly. What ever happened to the actual right? What one of the commandments says, Thou shall not commit adultery. Yes they aren't perfect. We all sin and shall not cast judgment on one another. Which I know that I am doing. I'm not justifying my own action. I am calling out the truth. Let's just say I don't like Jada, Amber or Meghan. I see lots of shade and narc vibes is all. Qualities I personally don't like.
Hi Pluto! It has been a while since I've been here. However, I must admit I did watch some of that table talk. This was very hard for me because I just saw hurt on his face and his tone. Will is a very good actor & I have enjoyed many of his shows & films. I have been married 30 years and we have ups & downs as any couple. One thing I can say when your blind-sided with extreme hurt from that cause, it can really mess with your mind & actions. MY experience of hurting the one you love brings regret and the need of forgiveness to work on the relationship to move forward. In this situation (not having all the facts- relying on speech, body language & facial expressions), this man has been hurt & I FEEL Will's feelings really didn't matter! I am a praying woman. All that I can do is pray for them because there is a lot of hurt here.
Sadly it's seems most women have her mentality these days. Behaving as no man is worthy of them , and how men aren't needed . As a man I'll say we don't NEED a woman, but want a woman, and aren't quite complete without them. Why can't some women just want the same. It's sad.
Also Jada playing the noble victim- “she ruined her reputation to play the adulterous wife for Will, bc if that is what he needs to be ok, then she’ll do it because he comes first.” Everything she said is completely wrong and emotionally immature. It infantilizes Will by implying he’s incapable of handling the truth, but if she’s playing along and pretending that is what happened and it wasn’t- then she’s enabling him to see things how he wants to see them. It’s not helping Will to agree with him that Jada cheated if she didn’t. No one would pretend they cheated in front of millions of people, if my significant other accused me of it and I hadn’t cheated, it’s now them that’s in the wrong, and they’re taking a shot at my integrity and loyalty. Jada you need to go back to therapy, you’ve learned nothing.
At this point it’s extremely frustrating to see how Will is part of all this and at honestly I don’t know what to think anymore. He excused herself that I no longer see him as a victim. I think he’s extremely narcissistic that he will never knowledgeable she’s horrible. Basically he deserves what he gets.
To me, she won’t let Will go because he might find happiness. She needs to control, she doesn’t want him & I don’t believe she loves him one iota.
…..like Meghan Markle 🤔
She wants an open marriage but she is the scapegoat 🤦🏼♀️
He has zero power in that marriage !!
She way looks at him is filled with so much hostility. It's unnerving, just like how M looks at people with dagger eyes! ***shivers*** 😒
Jada = Meaghan!
Will all the love she has for herself, there's none left for Will, Willow or Jaden she is all about her power, her intelligence, her godlike ability to know ALL the answers. I'm surprised she hasn't started a cult!
I can't even watch her. I find her quite sinister. The arrogance. The theatrical overconfidence. The fake air of being superior in emotional intelligence. I've been on the brunt end of a narcissist in my life, and still have some trauma from it, although I could and did in the end walk away. For those who don't or can't walk away, I feel very sorry.
She reminds me of a Disney evil character
@@deedeesmith3073 or a guru wannabe. 😂
"Sinister". What an excellent descriptor of her.
Exactly
@@deedeesmith3073 If she weren't so sinewy and bony, she could be the Ursula in the Little Mermaid...
I honestly find Jada appalling. She's openly abusing her husband, who has been nothing but supportive and loving towards her.
She has done so for years and if you line up every interview those two ever had together, you can actually watch him crumble and decline .
It's honestly heartbreaking.
I don't even wanna know whats going on behind closed doors and how the kids are suffering from this. It's just heartbreaking to watch.
I honestly wonder if the public would be so compassionate towards Will, if the Johny/Amber lawsuit didn't pave the way for people to finally understand that women can absolutely be the villain in an abusive relationship.
Absolutely agree, but what else to expect, if their daily life and their upbringing consisted of Jada being like that towards their father? I'm honestly convinced she turned them deliberately against their Dad, to have supporters for her actions. Narcissists need an audience and crave applause.
She devalues him at every turn. She actually reminds me of my father, and I have nightmares about him.
Jayden Smith wanted to "divorce" his parents when he was 14 or 15..if i remember correctly. There's been talk ( gossip of course) from years and years back, from the black community of Hwood that Jada and Will were hosting uhuummm..Parties^ in their house, and that both kids witnessed what was going on. So on so forth.
I dunno but i have a hunch that once Jadas closet door comes flying open there will be so many skeletons that has been hidden in there that it'll take a minute to process it all. As said, just a HUNCH. I wouldn't walk on the same side of the street as this woman.
Hopefully, it will bring more awareness to men being in abusive relationships. My husband was in one for yrs he couldn't get out of .
@koppsr I agree with you. The only way to explain it is jealousy. She hates him because he is, or was, loved by many and she doesn't get the same adoration from people. She hates him and it's obvious to anyone with half a brain. Will, on the other hand, is an idiot putting up with all the nonsense she has piled on him. Hopefully he wakes up some day soon.
She broke Will in that red table talk video. You can see clearly the hurt in his eyes. She has no shame or remorse. She is an embarassment to women. I don't dislike her, but dislike how she has treated her husband/partner with such hatred and disreguard.
I call it EVIL
Will is an empath and I hope he goes through with the divorce!
I call it acting. He already knew everything, and she knew he did. She was completely blindsided by the conversation. Will played her on that occasion, not the other way around.
@@JenMaram63How was she completely blindsided by the conversation when she orchestrated the conversation & knew what the conversation was going to be about???
@@JenMaram63???????
As a woman, I'm so sick & ashamed that we ended up with these people. Jada Rachael & Amber . They're all narcissistic egomaniacs . None of them can own up to what they did it's disgusting. I hope Will divorces her. My God, she had an affair, not an entanglement with her sons friend. Imagine the mental and emotional damage that caused Jayden & Will.
Yes and add Meghan Markle to that list.
As a man, I believe you would do the exact same thing if you had the chance.
@@DistrustHumanz they are not all the same tho
@@GradKat Rachael is Meghan's first name. And you are correct; she definitely belongs on that list.
Will Smith. How unbelievably unfortunate. You know how beloved he was in the 90s and 2000s. Gosh! He really loves her. Bc he could have bounced a long time ago and found 10 others girls. But he loves his family. And did not want to be the one to break it. To his own detriment. She don’t want him. She just wants control.
She has no thought about the damage she has done to her children as well as Will
Excellent Evaluation! As a black woman of 66 married 44 years I am appalled at the behavior of this woman.
44 years of marriage in this modern sinister world especialy on the west is so admirable 💯😊 that is amazing
@@losrajvosa0078people marry young these days? No
So we definitely marry late,
My ex had amazing job and I did too. We were 21, graduated from top university. Got campus placements.
He wanted to enter into investment banking, I was happy. But he wanted me to have that fast paced life too.
I was suffering from huge uterus issue, so I said no. I said I need this pace to take care of my health.
I am happy I took that decision. I was ready to wait, I waited 6 years and more.
Now I know he loves “ambitious” women, not women with work life balance.
He says my education is a waste as I could have been working in top firms. But who will tell him that I have had 5 doctors operating to save me. Who will tell him that all those painful days have made me choose bliss over bank balance.
My prayers matter to me more than a chair at board meetings.
He is a nice person, he understands somethings. But he cannot compromise his vision.
So despite the love I had, I lost the love to the over ambitious world.
Well but I hope I am blessed with a man worthy of my love.
Years back when they were getting married, she said, I don't want his babies hanging on me." I thought Will was crazy not to notice this woman was already insulting him, give it 20 years, she will shred him. Here we are.
She only married him BECAUSE she was pregnant
Wow, that's heartbreaking. When people tell you who they are, believe them! Poor Will and kids.
Didn't she also say that she did not want to marry him and cried her eyes out on the wedding day???
What did he sow in her ?
Just imagine bragging on TV how fucking someone who was barely an adult as well as their son's best friend was one of the best moments in your life. Regardless of the abuse she puts Will through, how can she not see how utterly embarrassing that is? Don't even get me started on how weird this 'woman of color' narrative is, because we all know that if it had been a man going after the best friend of his daughter who's barely 20, we'd all side-eye him as the filthy groomer he is. As a woman I can acknowledge that there is a double standard when it comes to female predators, so if anything she gets off easy because she's a woman.
So well said 🎉
Good point. The double standard is shocking.
It is so nice to hear women like yourself speaking out against evil persona of most ladies nowdays on the west. Not all man or woman are rude and so sinister like jada so tnx. 4 that much love 🌹
Yea I don't understand how the media is ok with her having sex with someone that's their kids friend who was also experiencing severe health AND mental health issues. Plus, he later said she broke his heart. She basically used up a sick young kid for her ego.
Here’s what I want to know. How long were Jaden and August friends? Since they were little boys? Teenagers? This is an important question, and I’ve never heard mention of it. Did these young men become friends since age 18? I ask because if they were childhood friends, and spending a lot of time at each other’s houses ie hanging out, sleepovers etc. This would put an even more sinister twist on an already abhorrent act.
EDIT: If anyone knows please post, thank you.
While supposedly supporting and helping her son's best friend she committed a sexual relationship with him.
That's all I need to know.
That's all anyone should need to know.
yes she a predator and idk how will can still support her
'Helping' him overcome an addiction. She swooped in when he was in a very vulnerable state. Poor kid was dealing with withdrawals on top of dealing with the trauma he was using the drugs to numb himself from. Imo, that makes it even worse.
Yes and what if a man did that to a daughters friend
Agree. Having a sexual experience with your young adult son's friend is beyond inappropriate. Your role with your children's friends, no matter at what age they are, is the mother role.
Exactly, the marriage/infidelity was not what struck me as nefarious, it was using the guise of helping a vulnerable young man to boost her fragile (aging) ego.
False narrative of being the adulterous wife? She was the adulterous wife! And I'm pretty sure he was NOT okay with that.
In a way I'm glad for all the Meghans, Jadas and Amber Heards of the world for letting me see how narcissistic people behave in the world.
Yes they are good red flag lessons
Narcissists are parasites in nature. They must latch on to a partner source for fuel and control. They won’t let go until they find a new partner source. A very few lucky victims break away and escape
Are you seeing how they truly behave in the world, or are you only seeing a glimpse of what the media allows you to see?
I would argue that, if you are not involved with a narcissist, you really can't grasp the full scope.
I agree, anyone who has been involved with a narcissist will be familiar with this behavior. That is why education is so important
@@stellaallbright4750 Totally - most people don't see the person who masks themselves as Mr Nice or Mrs Nice to the world. They have a different persona indoors.
I can't even look at her picture anymore without being triggered. She is evil.
Her attitude! She talks like she is so important and intelligent.. she’s irrational
Same
I’m a female and a person of color. Imo, you nailed it on the definition of equality: to hold both sexes accountable for their actions, not just one sex over the other. Love your content, Pluto! ❤
Who else feels that this lauded "DEEP HEALING" causes deep pain for everyone but her ? And she does not care at all ?
Deep healing is more a personal action, isn't it? Her "deep healing" in public seems to hurt everyone around her, not help them.
Exactly , she always uses this phrase with heavy emphasis for dramatic effect , it is pretentious and has caused more damage then healing . What planet does she exist on ?@@AdultThirdCultureKid1971
She uses therapy speak to justify her toxic behavior. Maybe Will should pay her for causing his therapeutic and very public “ego death”. 😢
agree@@pnwlady
She is evil persona that uses everything just to fit her crazy narrative.
Her talking about her sons friend August being so unwell and in need of help and what does Jada do? She preys on him sexually saying she just wanted to
'feel good!'
😮
The saddest thing is that Will, Johnny and even Harry could do sooo much better without their toxic partners. They could have better lives for themselves and their families.
We should all learn how to recognize and avoid toxic people. And thank you Pluto for teaching us how to do that!
Good content! Thanks!
Johnny Depp freed himself. Will and Harry need to do the same.
Right on😊
I love how people are completely disregarding how she used and abused August, leaving him in a MORE damaged place than he was before Jada decided she needed to “feel good” at his expense. She’s a nasty witch who burns through everybody around her. NOBODY is safe around her.
And that’s not even touching on her massive parade of lies that people can clearly and obviously debunk. Nobody’s asking her about any of the bull💩 she’s peddling. EVER. It’s mind boggling to me.
Would anyone even know who this woman is without her involvements with men? Same with MM and AH. They so desperately want to be famous that they go to any lengths to achieve it, but it eats them alive inside that they can’t accomplish it on their own through hard work and talent. That is why their underlying bitterness and anger shines through in everything they do. No matter what they accomplish they will always know deep inside that it is fraudulent and meaningless.
Everything Will has achieved, she has destroyed his life, career, parenting, their marriage. Will was friends with Chris Rock, and he was laughing. But yes Will made a choice that day. Jada was the instigator! Allowing Will's daughter to write letters to Tupac to come back and make her mommy happy again!
I see Jada as the villain bc she gas-lit will at the red table. Turning it into he not being able to accept her "entanglement ". We all saw it but she can't see anything but herself.
He was the super star not Tupac, or Jada.
I don't watch Jada movies, I watch Will Smith movies.
He wrote a book and she destroyed its release. Now I see her book on shelves at stores and it makes me as sick as Amber Heard, Jaimie Lynne Spears, and Meghan Markle!
Will will always b one of the greatest actors of all time!!! He’s unbelievable
I was abused by my ex husband and when dating I heard harrowing stories of men being abused by women. Here in Panama, I hear a lot about the things done to improve abused women situation. There is even a Ministry of Women Afairs or so it's called. Society needs to acknowledge and support that although women might be the majority of the total of people abused we shouldn't turn our backs to abused men.
The abuse men suffer is not that often physical but that doesn't mean it's less traumatic.
I have to say I did find that particular Red Table talk about the entanglement disgusting. I didn't know Augustus was her son's friend something I heard not so long ago.
She not only hurt Will but if I was her son I would have felt guilty for introducing them. Worst of all I've seen pictures of her parading with Augustus. She has no consideration whatsoever for Will's feelings.
As you rightly pointed, if it would have been the other way around I cannot imagine the amount of criticism that would have sprung from everywhere. It seems Jada things she deserves some sort of accolade for standing for women rights. To me, it seems she is advocating for right of women to be as abusive and mean as some men are.
We must take feminism back from these malignant, fame-hungry, exploitative narcissists that have hijacked such an important movement.
it's a way to hold her up higher... like "look what i did *for* you.. i made myself the villain in the world's eyes - so that you can HEAL" ...
Watched a TV show decades ago that claimed that the secret to happiness was being able to put other's needs above your own. Live for something other than yourself. The gratification that you feel after helping others - children, grandchildren, a beloved animal - was true happiness. Narcissists who don't care about any one else and only care about themselves will never be happy.
I’m a couple years younger than Jada so I remember when she first came into the spotlight and also when she married Will. I knew there was something not right with her from the word go and wondered aloud why someone like Will, seemingly nice and normal, would marry someone like Jada, an abrasive, unlikeable person. At the time, I had no idea what I was seeing but in grad school I learned about the signs that were making me not like her.
She has always been like this and has always used the isms” card. The reason she’s had such a lackluster career is not because she can’t act or that she wanted to raise children, but because her narcissism is so apparent that it transfers across the screen and people don’t like her. They may not know why, but they don’t.
She’s been furious since and takes it out on everyone, including her husband.
I remember not liking her from the get go in the 90s.
I remember not really knowing about her while watching Scream 2. She was on-screen for a short period of time, but I was not sorry that the character was the first to go. So, yeah, "we" probably do dislike her without really knowing the reason (and it's always been that way).
Same!!
She likes bad boys she went out with 2 PAC that should have been his red flag
I felt the same way in the 90's. I remember seeing a picture of them together and wondered what the heck he saw in her. I loved the Matrix but when she got cast in one of them, it instantly turned me off and never saw it because I felt her energy would've ruined the movie for me.
Some women have no shame these days it's such a shame what has become of this generation
"this generation?" She is 52 years old..
What "generation" are you talking about?
lol
@@benadams3569 yeah I know but she acts like a spoilt child, not a grown woman
@@benadams3569I guess the oh commenter is referring to the generation observing and evaluating Jada's behavior. What is relevant is the group that Carrie's more relative weight in the Zeitgeist (Millennials/GenZ). Jada's narrative would've had zero supporters in the 50s.
@@benadams3569 yeah but she is modern tipe of a woman
She does and did not have alopecia. Anyone that has alopecia can see this.
It looks like a full head of short cut hair to me, I'm not seeing any hair loss at the scalp , or is there a way to hide that without wigs?
True.
I have no proof but I agree. If she had it, it would have been only to a mild extent. I know what a true case of alopecia looks like (not me, a close friend).
@@JacoWium me too. That’s why I call her a fauxopcia. Lol
There is a plastic surgeon on youtube, Doctor Gary Linkov, who suffers himself from a severe form of alopecia and has become a specialist on hair transplant. He explained that Jada did not have alopecia, if at all it might be some form of traction alopecia, what many black women have after years of dense hairstyles, where the hairline declines. He explained that the small scarf on her forehead comes from plastic surgery, facelift, whatever. She was never bald, she shaved her head as a fashion statement to gain attention.
If this woman were white she would understand that the colour of anyone skin is of no importance these days. We got over that over a quarter of a century ago. However, behaviour, good or bad stays more or less the same over and over. Good is still important, as it right, loyal, ethical and kind among many other characteristics that can stand the test of time.
When I watched the Red Table Talk episode that discussed this topic, I was stunned by Jada's cruelty towards Will and ability to justify absolutely everything. It was "an entanglement" rather than an affair. When Jada said something about being happy that she had been able to help her son's best friend "heal" through that experience, it told me all I needed to know about her! What a saint! Jada almost seemed to relish saying these things to Will. It was shocking and disturbing to the nth degree!
Yeah. If she is self-aware it’s with a big dose of egocentricity. Her “honesty” is more important than anyone’s feelings. That’s not right.
Same here
how does sex with an older woman, your friends mom, who is married, help you HEAL anything? You become the dirty secret, your first experience is someone taking advantage of you, omg
She thinks because she was unhappy, she had the right to make him unhappy. She also claimed to take advantage of August, simply for her own personal happiness.
It's Jaded (Pun intended) to exploit others for self glorification.
Jada doesn’t want will she just doesn’t want anyone else to have him , she’s a covert narcissist, a control freak , I hope will meets someone else he oozes unhappiness.
That is what o have been saying. Many emmen would not mind being Mrs Smith. But Jada has messed up with that big, hateful mouth of hers.
There’s nothing covert about her!
As a woman 2 years older than Jada, we did NOT go around whining about the patriarchy or feeling sorry for ourselves because of “big bad power hungry men.” On the contrary, we coming of age Gen X women felt empowered, like we could do and be anything we wanted to and recognized how privileged we were to grow up in the time we did. We had amazing female role models to look up to like Charlie’s Angels, Wonder Woman, Sarah Connor and Princess Leia - all kick ass women that didn’t need to emasculate men to prove their capabilities. “The Patriarchy” wasn’t even a term in our Gen X lexicon. But I’m not surprised that a narcissist like Jada would pull it out now because it suits her narrative.
Absolutely spot-on!!!!!!!
Righteous!!
Correct
Yes! great post. And there was the Bionic Woman too. A predecessor for Buffy. They were not just kick ass. They were clever all these women were.
@@dlamancha5697 yes! How could I forget about Jaime Sommers?! These women were awesome role models for young girls 👏🏻
I can’t stand listening to all the psychobabble she uses. It’s so cringy…. ‘Riiight?’
It's as bad as someone who uses "cringy."
One thing that keeps getting overlooked as well is how inappropriate and disgusting it was for Jada to mess around with her son’s friend. That impacts not just Will, but her son, Jaden. Jaden is a strange kid, but he has feelings…how would any of us feel with our parents being separated, and then your mom sleeps around with your friend?? What lunacy! And her way of justifying abnormal parenting strategies and marriage “labels” may possibly have both of her kids gaslit into thinking all of this is normal.
Jada went along with the happily married Hollywood power couple narrative for years. It benefitted and suited her. Then, there was The Red Table Talk debacle. Calling an affair with her son's best friend "an entanglement" in front of her husband. Mocking and humiliating him publicly. Major backlash. Now, as she promotes her memoir, she changes the narrative. Says that she and Will separated 6 years ago. Gets more major backlash. Now, talks about trying to heal and repair their "relationship." As you aptly say here: "she's a villain of her own doing."
Well sad
It’s not just her indifference to Will’s feelings. She is even more indifferent to emotional damage she inflicted on August, who was much more vulnerable than Will. She just keeps emphasizing how GOOD the whole thing was for HER. Her rationalization and psychobabble are off the charts. She is only happy when she is denigrating Will. I think this is at least partially rooted in her jealousy of his success.
Jada is a book in self-destruction. Her children are adults and play along. Nobody told her NO, STOP.
You can even see how intimidating she can be. Multiply her manipulative, bully-ish attitude which she obviously had to control while the cameras were on ... and you can see how toxic and abusive their private relationship is. Will has been in it sooo long and has been so damaged I dont think she could make a better marriage with someone else if he tried . Harry will possibly be the same.
So on point. No interviewer challenged her platitudes. I have seen the interviews only as i watched the Behavior Panel review them. A very unlikable narcissist.
The “patriarchy” excuse doesn’t hold true for us older folks either. I learned the hard way that my father was massively manipulated by my narcissistic mother throughout his marriage to her. When she finally left him n a very heartless way, the change in him was remarkable. He was a different, better man once she no longer was living with him, while she became even more destructive, manipulative and vindictive. That experience really changed my perspective on the supposedly powerless women/powerful man formula thinking.
Had same dynamic growing up its infuriating & sick to hear these women play victim card. The men they break,damage & destroy are Nothing whatsoever to them but something to bend & use at their will & for their benefit nothing more.
Let's not forget that 'sad' and 'broken' and 'uncomfortable' Will is a talented actor. I think he's focused on his career which took a hit after the slap (and which he'd probably like to go in a new direction).
Seems, though, that she can get away with doing anything she wants to Will because he's got it all: wealth, looks, talent, a huge career, popularity.
She's cashing in at the very end of her marriage. (Wonder if there is a pre-nup?)
She never thought that all these interviews would come back and bite her in the ass. It’s like she compartmentalized each conversation as a moment in time and wouldn’t add up to anything.
Yes, we do not want clones of Jada, AH or MM in the world. Thank you for your thoughts on this subject.
I thought Megain had enough problems but hey😂 There is another one my god what is wrong with the world now
Thanks for dropping your rational truth bomb that I’ve come to expect from you. You make it easier to understand the word vomit from these “public figures” and validate that it’s not me who’s crazy.
As a lady old enough to be The Smith woman's mother I find her attitude disgraceful. It does the biggest disservice to women of all ages, but mostly to women younger than her who may think that behaviour is acceptable. I feel exceptional empathy for young men who must be afraid of their own shadow in this atmosphere of narcissistic, nay spiteful women. I am bewildered as to why they find it necessary to belittle men. I'm truly grateful I grew up in a world where people knew who they were & had a role in life which they could be proud of without the need to denigrate anyone.
It's not just an "affair" it was with her sons friend who came to stay because he was broken....she took advantage of a young wounded man. Turn these tables as if Will had an affair with his daughters wounded friend who came to their house for refuge.
I’m a 60 year old woman who grew up in the US. By the 80s, women had achieved their goal of work equality. Slowly “feminism” became corrupted and much like the trans movement, it has become a victim movement seeking not equality or acceptance, but absolute power for perceived slights.
100% The original feminists who fought for actual rights are rolling in their graves!
Yes yes I agree as a woman in my 60s who also grew up in US. I’m so grateful I never bought into the whole feminist movement . And everyone is a victim is becoming a very old song
👏👏👏
Well said, agree
Agreed! I, too, am in my early 60s (not sure how Pluto will feel about all the 60 year old women in her audience, but I think it speaks well for her). I never really bought into the feminist movement either, but believed that if you wanted equality, go out there and get it. No favors, no complaining, just do the work (whatever it was) and if you felt you were not getting paid enough, go and state your case. Or, in my case, go into business for yourself. I know it's not as easy as it sounds, nor is it as hard as some will make it sound. I am not a victim and I will not claim to be so because of my race, age or gender. I am really sick to the back teeth of all of the victim mentality I am seeing in the world today. I don't think it bodes well for the future.
All about her. She's just evil. Selfish because if you care about someone truly care you wouldn't hurt someone like that. Found herself, while screwing around with your sons best friend. And it made me feeeeelllll so good. No no no. This is soooo sad to see that women could really be so cold. Words truly fail me. 😮😢
Of course she won't let him go, because that lifestyle she's gotten accustomed too, she's not gonna let him go.
I never compare myself to celebrities, simply because I think they have very different lives than most of us. However I saw aspects of myself in Will, I saw a lot of pain. Pain doesn’t discriminate, whether you’re rich, famous or working class or poor etc.
I’ve loved someone so deeply, and gave many precious years of my life to. He broke my heart in every way imaginable. I see the pain and shattered soul I am now left with in Will. I see someone who’s been pushed to breaking point like I was and then blamed for it. I see a victim of abuse, coercive control, gaslighting and more. It’s painful to see another human being go through this and unacceptable. I hope Will can find some peace away from such a toxic situation and woman. He’s a legend, a great actor and I truly believe what we saw in the Oscars is not him. I hope the truth comes out, that he tells the world how he got there. What led to it, open up! I’m sure people will let him into their hearts again. ❤
I really feel sick watching Jada Pinkett Smith.
That's a loveless marriage and it's up to them to deal with it. However, let's not pretend that Jada would have left if she could earn a ton without Will. They probably agreed to discreet relationships and Jada didn't adhere to that 🤷 I'm over the both of them.
I'm with you, I mean just because she's awful doesn't mean he's great. He's broken, alright, but does love the money and attention.
Also I’m sick of legacy media writing about criticism of celebrities as “wrong” or “racist/sexist” or “you idiots in the public just don’t understand,” like for some reason being a journalist makes you more capable of understanding a persons psychology … some of us idiots in the general public are actually psychologists. Look here journalists, if the celebrities are going to put their shit out there, we have every right to critique and criticize. If they don’t want criticism then they shouldn’t air their dirty laundry to billions of people.
Why do narcissist always say “ right?” In a sentence.
My husband and I had been together for 40 years, and very sadly he passed away. if we decided sometime during those 40 years we where not sure if this is what we wanted to do for the rest of our lives and decided to do the separation, wouldn't you use that time to see how you can do as single person. Where you have only your self to think about and if that is what you wanted in life. Not to go jump into another relationship, wouldn't that defeat the point of doing it on your own, not to jump back into something you are separating yourself from. Me personally would have gone straight back to my husband
I'm so sorry for your loss.
@@lesley-anngilmore7524 thank you
@@lesley-anngilmore7524 thank you
What makes her even more dangerous is her cosplay as a life guru for women.
I remember the video where Jada keep recording Will eventho he told her not to, and Jada being dismissive as usual just went on and acted as if Will was being unreasonable for not wanting to be recorded. The audacity of this manipulative woman. Abusive women don't often to be violent but they break your spirit gradually until you believe you deserve all the hurt.
It definitely doesn't help her cause, that Will has been deafeningly quiet, throughout this whole saga. His head is probably still spinning😵💫😵💫😵💫🤷♀️🤯🤣🤣🤣
Will’s eyes look sad and dead.
Learning about narcissist and how they control their family members has been so helpful to me and I understand so many things that have caused heartache and suffering, self blaming and hate for not being able to achieve the love, acceptance and expectations of my mother has been easily explained finally as a 53 year old woman I'm able to accept myself and be free from the impossible demands that killed my brothers
Dear Pluto
You have nailed it…yet again. A most detailed analysis on accountability and the consequences of bad behavior. Yes she had emasculated Will through her actions…. And she needs to apologize… simple as that. Period. If she thinks her behavior is beyond reproach she’s a true narcissist. Again this is crystal clear. Period.
Pluto… you have outlined the dangers of reinterpreting poor and bad behavior …as being acceptable… ??most ppl will definitely not accept her bad behavior. Not in good society and we have to draw the line clearly with a big bold marker. Sorry folks …most of us who have lived a life with good conscience will consider Jada a villain. Period.
Agree wholeheartedly with your views Pluto…👏👏❤
Humanity is full of compassion and good conscience. This results in kind actions and good behavior. If mistakes are made then sincere apologies must be given. Period. Excuses cannot be given in the form of isms… sexism..? racism…?
As a public figure you shd have a higher set of moral standards … not succumb to more wrongdoings like manipulation??
Society n good ppl have to speak out for the moral compass of humanity. Period. Dear Pluto… thks v much for yr moral compass that nudges us in the right direction… always. Kudos….👏👏🌹🌹
That Red Table Talk is the purest example of narcissistic abuse ever put to film. Will is devastated, humiated, and strruggling to keep composure. Jada appears almost gitty as she excuses entangling her sons friend. The more emotional damage Will sustains the more Jada smirks in satisfaction. By the end of the segment Will is gaslit into oblivion as the couple celebrate their failing marriage with a BadBoys reference. Little did Will know his marriage ended in 2016, nullifying this entire dumpsterfire character arc.
I remember the first time I viewed the red table "entanglement" vid. Anyone with blood pumping through their heart could tangibly feel Will's hurt and humiliation. It made me feel so cringe! And I thought to myself what on earth could he have done to deserve THAT?! That was the defining moment that started my strong distaste for that bish.
It's not just Will. August has come out and done interviews talking about how much damage the relationship with Jada did to him. That he was really sick and he was devoted to her and she just used him when he was young and extremely vulnerable.
These kind of stories have always existed in the past, in the present and will be in the future.
I having been encouraging ( forcing) my 5 sons, age 15-25 to watch your show to demonstrate the kind of women to avoid. Not only are they learning, but they all think your beautiful, high praise from generation z.
I can't even see a picture of Jada without hearing "It had been SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO long since, I'd, felt. GOOD."
Or look at Rachel Zegler without hearing, "weird, WEIRD!"
I think she’s jealous of her husband’s success and fame. She got nowhere as an actress, so has to draw attention to herself by other means. The way she humiliates that man is appalling. So much for the idea of supporting one’s partner!
I never felt sooo old when you said that Jada is almost the same age as your parents 😂😂😂
I am old enough to be Pluto and Zac’s grandmother ❤
there is a similarity between jada and meghan in the way they talk: both use their hands while talking and saying ''right?'' at the end of their sentences is a way of manipulating and getting the interviewer on their side.
They have something in common...Will loves Jada...and Jada loves Jada.
Will Smith got up and smacked another man in the face at the Oscar Ceremony. He and his wife had been separated from their marriage for years when that happened. To me, they were never the actions of a man who was humiliated. They were the "don't you know who I am" bullying of someone who believed another was beneath him in his scale of black American Hollywood stars. Slapping someone back into his place. Sorry, there is two sides. Jada has made bad decisions, of that there is no doubt. But, who wants to live with a needy, aggressive person. He set her up on that round table talk, she was completely blindsided and he relished in her public humiliation. At least with Jada, she exposes herself through words and actions, what you see and hear is what you get. Will Smith is another story altogether.
When they laughed saying ‘Bad Marriage for life’ while fist bumping, I thought to myself ‘how about you both just go away, go away and leave everyone alone’.
Isn’t it bad enough people stay in awful relationships because they don’t have the financial freedom to leave their awful spouse?
Never heard of her before “the slap”. I learned a little abt her since but won’t follow her because she doesn’t make sense, she is not interesting. If I met her socially I would be looking to escape after 15 min. Will smith needs therapy.
I think she wants him to throw in the towel but he wont because he doesn't want to give up half his fortune. She's waging a public humiliation campaign against him but he's stubborn. I want to see what she comes up with next because so far nothing has worked and she really needs that 200 million dollars or whatever the amount is.
It makes me dry-heave every time I hear her refer to sleeping with her son’s supposedly mentally vulnerable friend as a “deep healing” event
I would love to see all 3 of them.. Amber Jada and Megan compared side to side to show more about what narcs look like for each emotion and scenario as I'm sure it would be very enlightening to the rest of us normal people
When you go around getting with not only son’s friends, but a friend who was dealing with trying to free himself from a substance addiction, you used your position of power to get what you wanted from the situation. It doesn’t matter if he felt affection, it was on her to say no we aren’t going there.
But she went there. And it doesn’t matter what gender you are, that is really unethical.
I blame Jada for everything. But as a black woman i know my ladies, shes not just doing this. WILL must have done some mistakes back in the days, and she cant forgive. This is something our ladies have. We want to make it work but then keep the anger. Its not fair to WILL
Pretty sure she paid for every article that paints her as the victim.
It’s common practice here in Los Angeles. You can pay for a full page, a half page, or a quarter page, and just have somebody propagate whatever narrative you’d like.
Wow....did Jada literally distill her affair down to the iconic "we were on a break..." from Friends?!? That's some weapons grade gaslighting right there. She's unbelievable. Fascinating from a case study perspective, but she's downright destructive. She'll never let him go. She doesn't want him (she's made that SUPER clear) but doesn't want anyone else to have him either. She can't risk him going off and finding true happiness. She'll never be happy...so he can't be either. Very sad. Excellent perspective LBP. Keep up the great work and cheers from Canada!
She was on ‘The One Show’ here in the Uk plugging her book last week. Was an interesting brief interview in the fact that the hosts didn’t really engage with her narrative, just giving her the opportunity to say that the book is out. It was short and I think she was a bit taken aback.
If Tupac was still alive she would have turned his life into hell too.
Also, the modern day era's definition of narcisissm is one of the few things I'd trade for the old version of it, because at least Narcissus wasn't engaged in any toxic relationships and only wished to court himself.
I think Jemele Hill, who is African American, used to work for ESPN. They fired her over something she wrote a while ago. Now she's working for "The Atlantic" apparently. She seems to like creating controversy.
I bet she even blames Will for living off his money. No wonder their kids are so screed up and unhappy. A woman who emotionally abuses her husband does the same to her kids.
I am still looking for the flesh smooth spots amongst the stubble on her head to see evidence of alopecia
Yep. Doesn’t have it
Again, don't believe your eyes. Believe Jada because she is a woman
I would like to see actors recreate the red table talk conversation with a male actor play jada and a female actor play will
What a cruel, evil, controlling and a sick woman!
She wants the whole cake and eat it but hang to her husband when and if things don’t work out. Let go of her husband if she wants to screw around. Will Smith should have balls to tell her NO! Either you’re in the marriage or out!
Even Thelma, Lady Furness and Wallis Simpson had the good grace to let their loving husbands go (rather than keeping them on the back burner) while they carried on affairs with the fickle Edward, Prince of Wales.
Good video, she is really just into herself.
By the way, where did you get this blouse? It's beautifully!
That peacock blue looks beautiful on her! 🦚
Her dismissive and contemptuous behavior blocks repair and predicts divorce.
Will must not of had a strong Dad or a strong male figure in his life. I have no idea, I’m just now hearing about this. I think sick women like this seek out men like that
He had an abusive dad. Will & his mother took the brunt of his abuse.
@biggiemama9443 Oh dear...thanks, idk..
There are a lot of red flags. Yes, she's a narcissist. Yes it's their life and we are being judgemental. Even on the podcast Oldish with a Dancing with a Star, Brian Austin Green and Randy Spelling they talked about this and they seemed to give Jada a break. Honestly, Jada, Amber and Meghan is showing young women that it's okay be a narcissist. What's wrong is right in their eyes. Which is why I don't like it when people look up to celebrities idolicstly. What ever happened to the actual right? What one of the commandments says, Thou shall not commit adultery. Yes they aren't perfect. We all sin and shall not cast judgment on one another. Which I know that I am doing. I'm not justifying my own action. I am calling out the truth. Let's just say I don't like Jada, Amber or Meghan. I see lots of shade and narc vibes is all. Qualities I personally don't like.
Lmao she made it sound like she was forced to marry Will yeah right....
She made it everyones business. So here we are.
Ha ha no little Jadas running around the world please!😅
Hi Pluto! It has been a while since I've been here. However, I must admit I did watch some of that table talk. This was very hard for me because I just saw hurt on his face and his tone. Will is a very good actor & I have enjoyed many of his shows & films. I have been married 30 years and we have ups & downs as any couple. One thing I can say when your blind-sided with extreme hurt from that cause, it can really mess with your mind & actions. MY experience of hurting the one you love brings regret and the need of forgiveness to work on the relationship to move forward. In this situation (not having all the facts- relying on speech, body language & facial expressions), this man has been hurt & I FEEL Will's feelings really didn't matter! I am a praying woman. All that I can do is pray for them because there is a lot of hurt here.
Pluto's hairband is cute AF. Such a nice colour .
Sadly it's seems most women have her mentality these days. Behaving as no man is worthy of them , and how men aren't needed . As a man I'll say we don't NEED a woman, but want a woman, and aren't quite complete without them. Why can't some women just want the same. It's sad.
Also Jada playing the noble victim- “she ruined her reputation to play the adulterous wife for Will, bc if that is what he needs to be ok, then she’ll do it because he comes first.” Everything she said is completely wrong and emotionally immature. It infantilizes Will by implying he’s incapable of handling the truth, but if she’s playing along and pretending that is what happened and it wasn’t- then she’s enabling him to see things how he wants to see them. It’s not helping Will to agree with him that Jada cheated if she didn’t. No one would pretend they cheated in front of millions of people, if my significant other accused me of it and I hadn’t cheated, it’s now them that’s in the wrong, and they’re taking a shot at my integrity and loyalty. Jada you need to go back to therapy, you’ve learned nothing.
At this point it’s extremely frustrating to see how Will is part of all this and at honestly I don’t know what to think anymore. He excused herself that I no longer see him as a victim. I think he’s extremely narcissistic that he will never knowledgeable she’s horrible. Basically he deserves what he gets.
“WE WERE ON A BREAK”
Will Smith is proof that money and fame can never overcome the axiom that we are never attracted to what we want. We attract WHO WE ARE.