i love my 8kx. but i would probably not recommend it as the first headset for anyone that doesn't already know they're very serious about vr. you can get very nice headsets for a more reasonable price to get your feet wet with.
@@SimHangerFS So what actually limited your FOV down to 170? Was it GPU/CPU capability? I'm looking to max out the FOV on MS Flight Sim but also adding a Yaw VR2 motion chair with Honeycomb flight controls.
I'm looking forward to the day VR headsets become plug and play. As it stands, it's unlikely they'll become popular with so much tinkering etc involved. Thank you for these videos. It's nice to see where VR stands at the moment.
Thanks Mark, that was exactly the review I was looking for. Your all round knowledge of VR/PCs/flying has made this an easy choice for me. Coming from a rift S (my 2nd headset) with a 3080 /9900K and 32gig and a desire for immersion/fov in msfs , this is now an essential upgrade as I’ll happily trade in a few ‘high’ settings for that fov, thanks again.
I have never tried a VR headset and this is way out of my price range but it's great to see what tech is out there, maybe one day this will be the norm at an affordable price.
The high priced Pimax 8KX can't play out its resolution without a high end PC if it comes to Flightsim. Considering the actual chip shortage, better go with a 2K device. It'll still look great and immersive!
@@void1968able I tried both of them. G2 has better resolution, but the Pimax has the FOV and almost as good resolution. But with Pimax your paying 3X as much and have to setup the tracking cubes.
@@brent4770 Sorry, but I like to contradict the resolution argument. The 8KX got 2x4K displays, so 3840*1920 vs 2160*2160 - over a wider span of 200° (diagonally) of course. The cubes are only important for room filling VR but that might be a matter, right. Seated VR with internally 9DOF (not really) it's good without the Lighthouses. Still... no uber-PC: no 8KX necessary.
well done. Good pace, good sequence, obviously prepared w script. Great tech knowledge. No meandering, No hill billy words like "I am going ahead and ..." V clear Audio. Can add captions, especially when you are quoting figures, like CPU, etc. subscribed.
Owning the Pimax 8KX for 8 months now running on an i7-8700k and 2070S (with slight OC). HL Alyx runs like a charm with almost no fiddling around at full 2x4K. Flightsim runs at below 50% resolution (set in SteamVR) and even deducted to 90% again in Flightsim settings. Most sliders at low, some at mid. Still it looks so nice but it took me around 1-2 months to find the setting that matches my liking. One "drawback" is the small sweet spot, but you just have to adjust it with one handgrip from time to time, no problem. Weight... is ok for me, no pain in the neck. The extra smooth foam (bought in China) is really helpful as you don't have problems with using (small) glasses in it anymore. I just wait for the 3090 to hit the
Great review series again, Mark! It is not only interesting for people who consider to buy VRglasses. Your reviews also provide a sort of windowshopping for those who will probably never spend that much for in this case VRglasses. So, thanks again!
I use the Pimax 5k at the moment and you’re right about taking a little time to get it adjusted but once you do it’s a fantastic e experience. I’m thinking about upgrading to the 8k in the future so thank you for this review.
I am having a nightmare with PIMAX right now. I ordered the 8KX on June 6th. It was delivered broken (right display didn't work). I returned it on 28th July. I am still waiting for the replacement headset over 2 months later (4 months since I ordered it). To say I'm not happy is an understatement!!!
So, is this your new go to VR headset or do you use the HP G2 V2 headset from time to time? Did you have any problems with updates not loading completely into the Pimax? Saw a couple of videos on updates crashing, and I guess Pimax has something about this in their support and I think a fix. I need to watch your other 2 videos on how you did your setup and settings with getting best results. I do SIM racing instead of flight so I know some people use this headset also for racing because of the FOV. Thanks for the video and take care.
Happy with my G2. Waiting to see what performance gains we get from the PC/XBox simultaneous release and then DX12. 5.1GHz All core OC 10900k and Aorus Xtreme 3090, but I want to see a lot more than 25-30fps in 4K HDR with all Ultra settings and on the G2. It's CPU limited rather than GPU so I am hopeful!
Great review thank you. I have old HTC Vive version1. Do you know if I can use the lighthouses and controllers from old Vive with Pimax? I assume Pimax comes with link box for these? Any help you can give really appreciated
@@SimHangerFS Thank you, my Pimax now installed. Question if ok please after following your config tips, I started sim in Pitool which says continually that it s loading. On PC screen the sim opens fine and then on pc screen I click on go to VR. On PC screen can see the two VR images, but on pimax it just shows the steam radar looking screen. Any tips on getting it to run on Pimax screen please? Only issue is Flight Sim, all other games I can use pitool to open steam games ok and they run fine.
@@yoyo57575757 it should not say loading all the time. Make sure you are able to change settings for MSFS separately as shown in my config video. Perhaps reinstall if no luck. Check you have the latest PiTool installed.
I’m currently using an Oculus Rift S but the res is too low for my liking. I’m on a limited budget and I’m considering an HP Reverb G2 as a replacement as that will be a good step up for me for now.
Technical question...When I'm in MSFS 2020 and I switch to VR mode the audio feed to My PC headset gets shut off and i can only hear whats going on throughj My Pimax head set., How can I use My PC headset when I'm playing MSFS 2020 in VR mode ???, Thank You.
I have the oculus rift s, I run it with a 3080 and the quality just isn’t there no matter how much I change the graphics options or adjust the dev tool. Is this head set that much better?
is it good enough for you to buy one? Or maybe you'll be waiting on the consumer Varjo headset now. I havethe G2, and will probably wait for the Varjo, as I think an upgrade on resolution and lens clarity is more important than the FOV
You can try the fsr and reshade for VR mods which give significant clarity, performance/fps and color boosts to any hmd now including the 8kx.. Tack sharp and better fps in DCS for me now my 8kx.. until Varjo human eye resolution becomes more mainstream in price AND comes with 200° (which won't come for years) the 8kx is the best bang for your buck and a steal compared to the vr-3 for the overall experience of amazing clarity combined with situational awareness/immersion nearest to real human eye fov.. It's the best way of experiencing the future now and you'll get more and more out of it over time so it's one of the only hmds that are future proofed.. The vr-3 isn't ever going to get a wider fov
@@justinspirational - In the G2 centre it's exceptionally clear, but degrades quite quickly beyond that, because of the fresnel lenses, so software won't solve that. I hear the 8Kx has a larger area of sharpness, however the Varjo is on another level to both in terms of sharpness, nearly a 6K display and massive sweetspot and area of sharpness because of the aspheric lenses. Having used the PSVR, I know what its like, it's like there is no lens there anymore, no light mist or glare or rings anymore. You combine that lens clarity with 600 more pixels vertically and it's a massive improvement on G2 & 8Kx. I appreciate FOV is a big part of immersion, but to me clarity is most important. Also, if it has index fov, that's not bad. Varjo looks like 3rd gen VR, 4th gen will be varjo clarity with human fov.
@@imaginariumkey sure but why not try the G2 with the fsr mod with a compatible sim/game anyway? It's free and literally takes a couple of minutes to set up.. It does very significantly increase clarity in the G2 and 8kx which is more than enough for almost all purposes AND boosts fps.. Yes the clarity in the vr-3 is better but it doesn't really matter as it's unaffordable for most people and no wide fov.. Not even an audio solution at that crazy price.. For now, I'm very satisfied with the clarity/fov combined overall experience I'm getting with the 8kx..I have the aspheric lenses in my og htc vive (did the Samsung gear mod) and I agree the clarity or more to the point sweet spot is amazing and don't know why still to this day most hmds still come with fresnel lenses, though aspheric lenses aren't perfect either as they come with more distortions
@@justinspirational - The G2 is already razor sharp in the middle, so don't feel the need to try and sharpen it, it's just outside of that where it gets blurry. Straight in front everything is extremely clear, but if you glance around it loses that because of the lenses
@@justinspirational - btw, what percentage of the image is at its sharpest in the 8Kx, before it starts to blurr and lose that sweetspot of sharpness when glancing away from centre
Very nice! Thank you! Do you think a 3080 ti can fire Up a 8kx in msfs and xplane with a good Resolution and good FPS or is a 3090 the way to go? Just thought about the vram. Thanks in advance! Andy
Please help me out. Please I bought the 8kx, the first time i just plugged and tested the VR, it was so beautiful and crisp and sharp. but once i downloaded OpenXR and steam VR, It became so shitty, and blurry. The resolution is worst than quest 2, Can you please step by step guide me how to use it, I have upgraded my specs for this, My specs are 11900k , RTX 3090, 64GB 4000MHZ, 1TB M.2. Please explain how to setup. By steps 1. 2. 3. etc THANK YOU
I am using the G2 but I am getting eye strain. and need to change to something with 71 IPD i looked at the vive but god rays and other things have turned me away from that one, valve index only goes to seventy I wanted to know if the tracking is good if you only use it for flight sim. also do you have to buy the controllers if you are don't use them at all.
You could try using Gunnar glasses, not only do they block blue light but they have lenses that are slightly magnified as well as having their ipd set lower than normal to get your eyes to relax when viewing screens closeup. I have just started using them on an 8KX. I also have a G2 but have not tried them on that yet. They also make the entire image sharper.
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What are your views on the Pimax 8 KX
i love my 8kx. but i would probably not recommend it as the first headset for anyone that doesn't already know they're very serious about vr. you can get very nice headsets for a more reasonable price to get your feet wet with.
Such a clear and understandable review. Thank you and well done top notch presenting
When your loan version is returned will you be buying one?
@@iamrocketray I was going to, but have opted for the Varjo Aero
@@SimHangerFS So what actually limited your FOV down to 170? Was it GPU/CPU capability? I'm looking to max out the FOV on MS Flight Sim but also adding a Yaw VR2 motion chair with Honeycomb flight controls.
You are the type of person RUclips needs more of! Not some cringy teens that can't criticize their own devices ...
I'm looking forward to the day VR headsets become plug and play. As it stands, it's unlikely they'll become popular with so much tinkering etc involved. Thank you for these videos. It's nice to see where VR stands at the moment.
Thanks Mark, that was exactly the review I was looking for. Your all round knowledge of VR/PCs/flying has made this an easy choice for me. Coming from a rift S (my 2nd headset) with a 3080 /9900K and 32gig and a desire for immersion/fov in msfs , this is now an essential upgrade as I’ll happily trade in a few ‘high’ settings for that fov, thanks again.
I have never tried a VR headset and this is way out of my price range but it's great to see what tech is out there, maybe one day this will be the norm at an affordable price.
Without a doubt.
The reverb G2 is the best for the money for sims. Best resolution. Other games there might be better options.
The high priced Pimax 8KX can't play out its resolution without a high end PC if it comes to Flightsim. Considering the actual chip shortage, better go with a 2K device. It'll still look great and immersive!
@@void1968able I tried both of them. G2 has better resolution, but the Pimax has the FOV and almost as good resolution. But with Pimax your paying 3X as much and have to setup the tracking cubes.
@@brent4770 Sorry, but I like to contradict the resolution argument. The 8KX got 2x4K displays, so 3840*1920 vs 2160*2160 - over a wider span of 200° (diagonally) of course. The cubes are only important for room filling VR but that might be a matter, right. Seated VR with internally 9DOF (not really) it's good without the Lighthouses. Still... no uber-PC: no 8KX necessary.
well done.
Good pace,
good sequence, obviously prepared w script.
Great tech knowledge.
No meandering, No hill billy words like "I am going ahead and ..."
V clear Audio.
Can add captions, especially when you are quoting figures, like CPU, etc.
subscribed.
Thank you 👍
Owning the Pimax 8KX for 8 months now running on an i7-8700k and 2070S (with slight OC). HL Alyx runs like a charm with almost no fiddling around at full 2x4K. Flightsim runs at below 50% resolution (set in SteamVR) and even deducted to 90% again in Flightsim settings. Most sliders at low, some at mid. Still it looks so nice but it took me around 1-2 months to find the setting that matches my liking. One "drawback" is the small sweet spot, but you just have to adjust it with one handgrip from time to time, no problem. Weight... is ok for me, no pain in the neck. The extra smooth foam (bought in China) is really helpful as you don't have problems with using (small) glasses in it anymore. I just wait for the 3090 to hit the
hahahaaa...3090 is truly THE BIG HURDLE
Very good comprehensive conclusion👍
As always excellent made.
Thank you Mark and take care.
Thanks again for your help 😁
Great review series again, Mark! It is not only interesting for people who consider to buy VRglasses. Your reviews also provide a sort of windowshopping for those who will probably never spend that much for in this case VRglasses. So, thanks again!
I use the Pimax 5k at the moment and you’re right about taking a little time to get it adjusted but once you do it’s a fantastic e experience. I’m thinking about upgrading to the 8k in the future so thank you for this review.
Tom. I'm interested to know why you wish to upgrade - for the increased resolution?
@@CaptVirtual yes that’s the reason. I’m not looking to do it right away because the 5k has been a good headset for me but sometime in the future.
Great review!
I am having a nightmare with PIMAX right now. I ordered the 8KX on June 6th. It was delivered broken (right display didn't work). I returned it on 28th July. I am still waiting for the replacement headset over 2 months later (4 months since I ordered it). To say I'm not happy is an understatement!!!
Can't wait till 27th of July, we will enjoy MSFS in VR even more.
Doesnt change anything in VR, if you're GPU limited already
@@ZixPlays why’s that? Everyone is gpu limited.
So, is this your new go to VR headset or do you use the HP G2 V2 headset from time to time? Did you have any problems with updates not loading completely into the Pimax? Saw a couple of videos on updates crashing, and I guess Pimax has something about this in their support and I think a fix. I need to watch your other 2 videos on how you did your setup and settings with getting best results.
I do SIM racing instead of flight so I know some people use this headset also for racing because of the FOV. Thanks for the video and take care.
Great review ! To use it for sim racing can I buy just a headset ?
Can you have review of AR glasses on Microsoft Flight Simulator ? Rokid Max or Nreal.
Happy with my G2. Waiting to see what performance gains we get from the PC/XBox simultaneous release and then DX12. 5.1GHz All core OC 10900k and Aorus Xtreme 3090, but I want to see a lot more than 25-30fps in 4K HDR with all Ultra settings and on the G2. It's CPU limited rather than GPU so I am hopeful!
Great review thank you. I have old HTC Vive version1. Do you know if I can use the lighthouses and controllers from old Vive with Pimax? I assume Pimax comes with link box for these? Any help you can give really appreciated
Hi, I also have lighthouses and controllers from Vive 1. That is what I used in my videos. Fully compatible, no link box required 👍
@@SimHangerFS Thank you, my Pimax now installed. Question if ok please after following your config tips, I started sim in Pitool which says continually that it s loading. On PC screen the sim opens fine and then on pc screen I click on go to VR. On PC screen can see the two VR images, but on pimax it just shows the steam radar looking screen. Any tips on getting it to run on Pimax screen please? Only issue is Flight Sim, all other games I can use pitool to open steam games ok and they run fine.
@@yoyo57575757 it should not say loading all the time. Make sure you are able to change settings for MSFS separately as shown in my config video. Perhaps reinstall if no luck. Check you have the latest PiTool installed.
I’m currently using an Oculus Rift S but the res is too low for my liking. I’m on a limited budget and I’m considering an HP Reverb G2 as a replacement as that will be a good step up for me for now.
Technical question...When I'm in MSFS 2020 and I switch to VR mode the audio feed to My PC headset gets shut off and i can only hear whats going on throughj My Pimax head set., How can I use My PC headset when I'm playing MSFS 2020 in VR mode ???, Thank You.
In Windows sound settings disable the VR headset sound device.
I have Pimax 8KX, what are your setting?!? Thank you for the video.
See my follow up video here ruclips.net/video/PtwDjYQF0zQ/видео.html
I have the oculus rift s, I run it with a 3080 and the quality just isn’t there no matter how much I change the graphics options or adjust the dev tool. Is this head set that much better?
In a word, yes, but consider the HP Reverb G2 as well.
is it good enough for you to buy one? Or maybe you'll be waiting on the consumer Varjo headset now. I havethe G2, and will probably wait for the Varjo, as I think an upgrade on resolution and lens clarity is more important than the FOV
You can try the fsr and reshade for VR mods which give significant clarity, performance/fps and color boosts to any hmd now including the 8kx.. Tack sharp and better fps in DCS for me now my 8kx.. until Varjo human eye resolution becomes more mainstream in price AND comes with 200° (which won't come for years) the 8kx is the best bang for your buck and a steal compared to the vr-3 for the overall experience of amazing clarity combined with situational awareness/immersion nearest to real human eye fov.. It's the best way of experiencing the future now and you'll get more and more out of it over time so it's one of the only hmds that are future proofed.. The vr-3 isn't ever going to get a wider fov
@@justinspirational - In the G2 centre it's exceptionally clear, but degrades quite quickly beyond that, because of the fresnel lenses, so software won't solve that. I hear the 8Kx has a larger area of sharpness, however the Varjo is on another level to both in terms of sharpness, nearly a 6K display and massive sweetspot and area of sharpness because of the aspheric lenses. Having used the PSVR, I know what its like, it's like there is no lens there anymore, no light mist or glare or rings anymore. You combine that lens clarity with 600 more pixels vertically and it's a massive improvement on G2 & 8Kx. I appreciate FOV is a big part of immersion, but to me clarity is most important. Also, if it has index fov, that's not bad. Varjo looks like 3rd gen VR, 4th gen will be varjo clarity with human fov.
@@imaginariumkey sure but why not try the G2 with the fsr mod with a compatible sim/game anyway? It's free and literally takes a couple of minutes to set up.. It does very significantly increase clarity in the G2 and 8kx which is more than enough for almost all purposes AND boosts fps.. Yes the clarity in the vr-3 is better but it doesn't really matter as it's unaffordable for most people and no wide fov.. Not even an audio solution at that crazy price.. For now, I'm very satisfied with the clarity/fov combined overall experience I'm getting with the 8kx..I have the aspheric lenses in my og htc vive (did the Samsung gear mod) and I agree the clarity or more to the point sweet spot is amazing and don't know why still to this day most hmds still come with fresnel lenses, though aspheric lenses aren't perfect either as they come with more distortions
@@justinspirational - The G2 is already razor sharp in the middle, so don't feel the need to try and sharpen it, it's just outside of that where it gets blurry. Straight in front everything is extremely clear, but if you glance around it loses that because of the lenses
@@justinspirational - btw, what percentage of the image is at its sharpest in the 8Kx, before it starts to blurr and lose that sweetspot of sharpness when glancing away from centre
hi you getting the new crystal?just watch the vr guy seems good
Thanks for the review. I am very much a flight simmer and wondering if this is a good HMD. It is a lot of $ so the more I can understand the better.
Yes it is a good headset, with amazing FOV, and suited also to those with a wide IPD. Your choice should be this or the HP G2.
@@SimHangerFS Thanks that is exactly the decision I am now considering.
Very nice! Thank you! Do you think a 3080 ti can fire Up a 8kx in msfs and xplane with a good Resolution and good FPS or is a 3090 the way to go? Just thought about the vram. Thanks in advance! Andy
A 3080 ti is perfect for the 8kx
@@SimHangerFS thank you so much Mark! Youre great keep going!!!
Please help me out. Please
I bought the 8kx, the first time i just plugged and tested the VR, it was so beautiful and crisp and sharp. but once i downloaded OpenXR and steam VR, It became so shitty, and blurry. The resolution is worst than quest 2, Can you please step by step guide me how to use it, I have upgraded my specs for this, My specs are 11900k , RTX 3090, 64GB 4000MHZ, 1TB M.2.
Please explain how to setup. By steps
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etc
THANK YOU
Check out this video. You need to setup using the PiTool config. ruclips.net/video/PtwDjYQF0zQ/видео.html
I'd be interested to hear from anyone who has the Pimax Vision 5K Super. Slightly lower resolution but still 200' FOV, high refresh rate, etc.
Hi, check out VR Flight Sim Guy here ruclips.net/video/gmgrBn0mGx8/видео.html
@@SimHangerFS Thank you
please get your hands on the Varjo Headset
I quit VR in msfs (3090,G2) because it was just like 1080p. 100 openXR and render scale .
Is this headset any better?
It’s not so much better than totally different, with the wider fov.
I am using the G2 but I am getting eye strain. and need to change to something with 71 IPD i looked at the vive but god rays and other things have turned me away from that one, valve index only goes to seventy I wanted to know if the tracking is good if you only use it for flight sim. also do you have to buy the controllers if you are don't use them at all.
Hi Paul, tracking is good, providing you have at least one base station. You do not have to have controllers with the Pimax.
@@SimHangerFS thanks for getting back to me all the reviews are doing my head in. but as a sim guy you would know what I need.
You could try using Gunnar glasses, not only do they block blue light but they have lenses that are slightly magnified as well as having their ipd set lower than normal to get your eyes to relax when viewing screens closeup. I have just started using them on an 8KX. I also have a G2 but have not tried them on that yet. They also make the entire image sharper.
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