Is Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel Nestorian?
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- This video explores the theological views of Mar Mari Emmanuel, particularly focusing on his understanding of the nature of Christ. It delves into questions surrounding Christ's divinity and humanity, seeking to clarify his perspective within the broader context of Christian Christology.
Bishop Mari Mari has brought me closer to God than anyone else in my life. I was an agnostic when I see his video came on my instagram feed one day suddenly and that and among others things have ignited my path to becoming Christian and accepting Jesus Christ. I am sad when people try dismiss the Bishop and say mean things about him when its clear the man has the Holy Spirit in him to preach truth and love.
I stand in Truth and the Holy Spirit with Mari Mari Emmanuel. Thank you for saying the truth and showing Gods Love.... God knows everyone's heart! Keep preaching the gospel!!!
MAY GOD BLESS YOU MORE AND MOST, SO BE IT. MAY GOD CONTINUE TO BLESS YOU WITH THE GIFTS AND FRUITS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, IN CHRIST, AMEN.
The Gifts and Fruits of the Holy Spirit
The gifts of wisdom, understanding, counsel, fortitude, knowledge, piety, and fear of God.
The fruits of love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, longanimity, gentleness, faith, modesty, self-control, and chastity.
Supreme Thanks Be To God !
God Bless Everyone !
He explicitly said "... Christokos not theotokos." He used "Prosopon" not "Hypostasis." His attempt to present his Christology as has no difference with both Eastern and Western church may work on lay people who aren't familiar with the theological terms, but not for those who are trained well in theology.
please explain how the two terms differ theologically
"Christokos" was invented by Nestorius to state that Mary had not given birth to God...de facto separating Christ in two persons, two sides, two parts. One fully man, and one Fully God. Christ, instead is Fully Man and Fully God at the same time. He is two natures in One person. They want to say that Mary gave birth to Christ like he was not God at some moment, as if saying She gave birth to God is heretic. If you say that Holy Mary isn't the mother of God (Theotokos), cause in order to be so she should be greater than him, born before him ecc. as nestorius said, that's you clearly not having any idea of what Christ, the trinity, and God really is. God Bless🙏🏻
@@Tenebur thanks a lot mate, but i was referring to prosopon and hypostasis
@@HansKst If you're interested in the Orthodox view, you can look up the book "The Person in the Ortodox Tradition" by Metropolitan of Nafpaktos Hierotheos, specifically pages 68-73 on this manner. God Bless you brother.🙏🏻❤️
Yes and yes....
Amen to that.
He is good with words but those who understand theology a bit deeper they will see.
All best to him and all
Grreting from Ortodox Serbia.
ውድ የተዋህዶ ልጆች በዚህ አይነት የተሳሳተ ትምህርት እንዳንስት እግዚአብሔር ይርዳን:: በረከቱ ይደርብን እና አባታችን ቅዱስ ቄርሎስ ይህንን የንስጥሮስ የኑፋቄ ትምህርት በ431ዓ.ም በኤፌሶን ከተማ በተደረገ ጉባኤ ተከራክሮ የረታ ሲሆን:: ይህም አስተምሮም በአባቶቻችን ዘንድ ፈፅሞ የተወገዘ ነው:: እመቤታችን ቅድስት ድንግል ማርያም ወላዲተ አምላክ ነች ልጇም የባህርይ አምላክ ነው::
Kidus Kirlos yetekawemew Denegel mariam weladit amelak ayedelechem milewen ayedelem. Denegle Mariam weladit alemalke malete tileke nufake nw. Amelake malte Abe Weled ena Menfes Kidus nw. Denegle mariam sew hono yetegeletewen Egziabher Weleden Yeweledech enji Amelaken weyem Selasen yeweledech weyeem le selase Enate tebela yemetetera ayedelechem. tileke nufake eyameneke ewnetegna abatochen atekawem ebakehe wendem. Mariam Geta Besega yetegeletebat ye sega enatu enji beamelakenetema Enatu atehonem. Be Amelakenetu Enate kehonechma Tekedemewalech malte nw yehe demo Ameleka ayedelem wedemilew ye muslimoch ena ye johova witness kihedet nw miewesden. Mariamn demo weladite amelake selalekat atakeberatem Egeziabher ande Akeberotal ante mnem kiber letechemerelat atechelem.
@@kalkidanaddisu3015 በመጀመርያ እና በዋናነት አማርኛ በላቲን ፊደል አይፃፍም ፊደል ተምረሽ በአማርኛ ፃፊ አለዚያ አንደኛሺን በእንግሊዘኛ ፃፊ ወይንም በምታውቂው ቋንቋ ፃፊ ወይ ሰው ጠይቀሽ አፅፊ:: ሀሳብሽን አንብቦ ለመረዳት ያስቸግራል::
እኔ አስተያየት የፃፍኩት ከንስጥሮሳዊያን ወይንም ከሌሎች መናፍቃን ጋር ቲኦሎጂ ለመከራከር አይደለም ለዚያ ብቃት የለኝም ቦታዬም እይደለም:: ፅሁፌ የኢትዮጵያ ኦርቶዶክስ ተዋህዶ ቤተ ክርስቲያን ወንድም እህቶቼ በአፈ ጮሌ ንስጥሮሳዊ የሀሰት መምህር እንዳይስቱ በገባኝ ለማካፈል ነው::
ጥልቅ ካልሽ ግን የመጀመሪያውን ሀሳብሽን መመለስ ተገቢ ሆኖ አግኝቼዋለው:: ታላቁ አባታችን ቅዱስ ቄርሎስ የንስጥሮስን እመቤታችን ቅድስት ድንግል ማርያምን ወላዲተ አምላክ አትባልም ያለውን ኑፋቄ አልተቃወመም ላልሽው ጭልጥ ያልሽ ውሸታም ነሽ:: ላለማለቱ ማስረጃ ብልሽ የለም ነገር ግን በራስሽ አስተሳሰብ እዛና እዚህ እየረገጥሽ ስነ መለኮትን ልትተነትኚ ሞክረሻል:: መናፍቃን(Protestants) እንደዚህ ናችሁ:: ክርስቶስንም በቤተ ክርስቲያንንም አታውቋትም ክርስቲያኖችም አይደላችሁም ስንል በድፍረት ሳይሆን በምክንያት ነው:: እምነታችሁ ሀዋርያዊ ቅብብሎሽ የለውም ስለዚህም ዋና ዋና የሐይማኖት ምስጥራት ላይ እንኳን ወጥ አስተምሮ የላችሁም:: የቀደሙ አባቶቻችን (early fathers) ጉባየአት( Ecumenical Counsils) ምን እንደሆኑ መቼ እና ለምን እንደተደረጉ አታውቁም:: ክርስትና 1500 አመት ዘሎ ሉተር እና ካልቪን ላይ ያረፈ ሚመስላችሁ ሞኞች::
ቅዱስ ቄርሎስ ብቻ ሳይሆን ከሱም በፊት የነበሩ አባቶቻችን የመቤታችንን ወላዲተ አምላክነት ፍንትው አርገው አስቀምጠውታው:: ለምሳሌ አባታችን ቅዱስ አጥናቲዎስ አርዮሳዊንን ሲቃወም 330 AD "Christ, being God, became man for our sake and was born of Mary, the Mother of God, to free us from the devil’s power.”
በኤፌሶን ቅዱስ ቄርሎስና የጉባኤው አባቶች
ነገረ ክርስቶስን (Christology) እንዲሁም የመቤታችንን ወላዲተ አምላክነት (Theotokos, a Greek word meaning "Mother of God.") ያፀኑበት ነው:: ከጉባኤው 12 ውግዘታት የመጀመሪያው "If anyone does not confess that Emmanuel is God in truth, and therefore that the holy virgin is the mother of God (for she bore in a fleshly way the Word of God become flesh, let him be anathema."
@@kalkidanaddisu3015 በመጀመርያ እና በዋናነት አማርኛ በላቲን ፊደል አይፃፍም ፊደል ተምረሽ በአማርኛ ፃፊ አለዚያ አንደኛሺን በእንግሊዘኛ ፃፊ ወይንም በምታውቂው ቋንቋ ፃፊ ወይ ሰው ጠይቀሽ አፅፊ:: ሀሳብሽን አንብቦ ለመረዳት ያስቸግራል::
እኔ አስተያየት የፃፍኩት ከንስጥሮሳዊያን ወይንም ከሌሎች መናፍቃን ጋር ቲኦሎጂ ለመከራከር አይደለም ለዚያ ብቃት የለኝም ቦታዬም እይደለም:: ፅሁፌ የኢትዮጵያ ኦርቶዶክስ ተዋህዶ ቤተ ክርስቲያን ወንድም እህቶቼ በአፈ ጮሌ ንስጥሮሳዊ የሀሰት መምህር እንዳይስቱ በገባኝ ለማካፈል ነው::
ጥልቅ ካልሽ ግን የመጀመሪያውን ሀሳብሽን መመለስ ተገቢ ሆኖ አግኝቼዋለው:: ታላቁ አባታችን ቅዱስ ቄርሎስ የንስጥሮስን እመቤታችን ቅድስት ድንግል ማርያምን ወላዲተ አምላክ አትባልም ያለውን ኑፋቄ አልተቃወመም ላልሽው ጭልጥ ያልሽ ውሸታም ነሽ:: ላለማለቱ ማስረጃ ብልሽ የለም ነገር ግን በራስሽ አስተሳሰብ እዛና እዚህ እየረገጥሽ ስነ መለኮትን ልትተነትኚ ሞክረሻል:: መናፍቃን(Protestants) እንደዚህ ናችሁ:: ክርስቶስንም በቤተ ክርስቲያንንም አታውቋትም ክርስቲያኖችም አይደላችሁም ስንል በድፍረት ሳይሆን በምክንያት ነው:: እምነታችሁ ሀዋርያዊ ቅብብሎሽ የለውም ስለዚህም ዋና ዋና የሐይማኖት ምስጥራት ላይ እንኳን ወጥ አስተምሮ የላችሁም:: የቀደሙ አባቶቻችን (early fathers) ጉባየአት( Ecumenical Counsils) ምን እንደሆኑ መቼ እና ለምን እንደተደረጉ አታውቁም:: ክርስትና 1500 አመት ዘሎ ሉተር እና ካልቪን ላይ ያረፈ ሚመስላችሁ ሞኞች::
ቅዱስ ቄርሎስ ብቻ ሳይሆን ከሱም በፊት የነበሩ አባቶቻችን የመቤታችንን ወላዲተ አምላክነት ፍንትው አርገው አስቀምጠውታው:: ለምሳሌ አባታችን ቅዱስ አጥናቲዎስ አርዮሳዊንን ሲቃወም 330 AD "Christ, being God, became man for our sake and was born of Mary, the Mother of God, to free us from the devil’s power.”
በኤፌሶን ቅዱስ ቄርሎስና የጉባኤው አባቶች
ነገረ ክርስቶስን (Christology) እንዲሁም የመቤታችንን ወላዲተ አምላክነት (Theotokos, a Greek word meaning "Mother of God.") ያፀኑበት ነው:: ከጉባኤው 12 ውግዘታት የመጀመሪያው "If anyone does not confess that Emmanuel is God in truth, and therefore that the holy virgin is the mother of God (for she bore in a fleshly way the Word of God become flesh, let him be anathema."
@@kalkidanaddisu3015 በመጀመርያ እና በዋናነት አማርኛ በላቲን ፊደል አይፃፍም ፊደል ተምረሽ በአማርኛ ፃፊ አለዚያ አንደኛሺን በእንግሊዘኛ ፃፊ ወይንም በምታውቂው ቋንቋ ፃፊ ወይ ሰው ጠይቀሽ አፅፊ:: ሀሳብሽን አንብቦ ለመረዳት ያስቸግራል::
እኔ አስተያየት የፃፍኩት ከንስጥሮሳዊያን ወይንም ከሌሎች መናፍቃን ጋር ቲኦሎጂ ለመከራከር አይደለም ለዚያ ብቃት የለኝም ቦታዬም እይደለም:: ፅሁፌ የኢትዮጵያ ኦርቶዶክስ ተዋህዶ ቤተ ክርስቲያን ወንድም እህቶቼ በአፈ ጮሌ ንስጥሮሳዊ የሀሰት መምህር እንዳይስቱ በገባኝ ለማካፈል ነው::
He actually is Nestorian, which actually is a condemned heresy.
I think people get way too attached to theological details and linguistics when most people could turn their lives 180 degrees just by focusing on and applying the words Jesus actually said.
MAY GOD BLESS HIS GRACE BISHOP MAR MARI EMMANUEL ALWAYS, AMEN.
Yeah he is, he even praises Nestor in hymns
Good, since Nestorius is not a nestorian.
@@AryaXVII say what?
@@sirius4518 lol you’re surprised? We have a good amount of his writings due to the Syriac tradition, as well as scholars acknowledging he was misrepresented for political gain.
@@AryaXVII so how is nestorius not nestorian
@@sirius4518 Simple, he did not believe the natures were separated, he did not believe in two person christology, and christokos is misrepresented. The Antioch formula on the name “Christ” denotes God-Man because there’s an inseparable union of the divine and human nature. Therefore, Christokos actually denotes that she’s the mother of God the word who has an inseparable union of the divinity and humanity. He also accepted theotokos, his issue with theotokos was that he didn’t want those falling into Hersey by implying God the Word was GENERATED/created from the blessed virgin.
Also, he denied two persons in Christ multiple times and acknowledged the natures are inseparably united. Most of his quotes today that are in support of Nestorianism, are wildly taken out of context.
That's coptic christology perfect God bless this man protect him
Clearly stated here thanks. I don't know why he is saying though "Christotokos" instead of "Theotokos" since he accepts already one person of Christ with two indivisible natures, so Mary gave birth to God and Man. I guess it is a linguistic problem since again he accepts the two natures in one "prosopon" or "hypostasis" (person). As a Greek Orthodox, that we stick to the teachings of the Apostles and the Early Fathers and all decisions of the Ecumenical Synods compared to the Latins, we say Theotokos "God-bearer", in the sense that Christ is also God and not only Man. But clearly now he is NOT Nestorian, since they accept two persons and two natures, that the Logos just dwelled in a body of a man and he was not actually the Man.
No, its not a "linguistic" problem, but a heretical problem. If one uses the term, Christotokos (as this Bishop has admitted is being used in HIS church) the implication suggests that Jesus is not God or that we CAN definitely separate the human and divine natures of Jesus, it implies that there is a part of Jesus that is NOT God and that Mary is only the mother that one part. The term basically makes Jesus only partially God and partially man, as opposed to our true church teaching that Jesus is bot FULLY God and FULLY man. From the Council of Ephesus, "If anyone does not confess that Christ is God in truth, and therefore that the holy virgin is the mother of God Theotokos, for she bore in a fleshly way the Word of God become flesh, let him be anathema."
@@ausguy5052 True, you are right, but he clearly states that he accepts a single person, both god and man, perfect god and perfect man…i think his problem is that with this term it implies that the timeless God „before incarnation“ was born by Mary…which of course we do not believe anyway…the discussion about Theotokos, which is a prominent greek term, is to dictate and denote that Mary gave birth to the Godman and not only a man (the basic nestorian thesis that Logos just dwelled in a human body of the chosen Messiah)…but again Mari clearly states that Christ is one person both God and Man…then it is betweenn him and God if he means or believes something else.
@@konstantinoszeimpekis9874 What it seems like to me is that he's trying to build his congregation and therefore not wanting to divert too much from the authentic teaching of our Eastern Orthodox faith and Roman Catholic for that matter. That said I do however have a serious problem with the term "Christotokos", it clearly is a term denounced by church fathers and one I cannot accept in any way. I specifically watched this video to see how he refutes his critics and when I heard him say "Christotokos", that was game over for me. Personally, I dont trust him, he just gives me bad vibes, ridiculous I know, but its just something about him. I know he's very popular with many online, much of his popularity stemming from criticism of current liberal and anti-christian attitudes and I condemn utterly the attack on his life recently and wish him a speedy recovery (as I would for any human being), but I just cant bring myself follow him in any way.
@@ausguy5052 i hope that he is on the right path, otherwise he plays God for a fool and he will condemn himself. Of course as a greek Orthodox myself, we have Theotokos without any doubt...i really hope that he is not a heretic...let us keep strong in our Faith and pray for him as well. Have a good day brother!
@@konstantinoszeimpekis9874 I agree, as Serbian Orthodox myself we too hold dear the term Theotokos or translated to Serbian Bogorodica. As with you I too will keep strong in my faith, defending the term and our canons and hope that this Bishop returns to the right path. God bless you and all the best for Pascha.
Father marmari, you said you believe as your church believes as far as concerns the lord christ. That's great but what about concerning the mother of God? Do you believe as your church understands the mother of Jesus???
I'm from Ethiopia 🇪🇹
There’s ONLY ONE CHURCH the holy Catholic Church. You have the orthodox CULTS. And you have the Nestorian heretic’s Mar Mari is a Nestorian and evil.
he intentionally didn't address that in full, and his comment was that his church calls Mary Christo-tokos, instead of Theo-tokos. However, he goes on to give a correct theological approach but only via interpretation ("if Christ is God and human in one person, and Mary is the bearer of Christ then Mary gave birth to God"). But to me that's not enough. If anything, intentionally avoiding calling Mary Theotokos proves ill motives/intentions. To what extend his motives are ill, we will never know I guess. But I pray that he is simply confused and not intentionally ill-willed. Only God will judge him after all.
@@TheSimpleDudeOne the church of the east ( the church that Mar Mari belongs to) doesn't call Mary "Theotokos" for many reasons, to mention a few, it implies that the divinity of the son started when he was born by Mother Mary, and it also implies that God in his three persons has a mother , so it is not heretical to call her Theotokos but it can have very bad implications , also since its establishment in the 1st century, the Church of the east fathers never used the term theotokos, it only used christokos so the church decided to stay aligned with the orthodox teachings of its fathers. this does not mean that the church doesn't believe that Jesus has two natures, 100% divine and 100% human united without mixing or mingling, this is very clear in its creed and there is a translated version of the church's creed that u can watch on youtube,
@@IraqiMan100 everything you said is wrong.
@@TheSimpleDudeOne elaborate
Thank you, Bishop, for coming into my life.
He seems more like a TV evangelist establishing his own schismatic church, they too like shout loudly defending their position. No thanks I dont need the latest internet celebrity, I'm more than happy with my CANONICAL eastern orthodox church. BTW, from the Council of Ephesus, "If anyone does not confess that Christ is God in truth, and therefore that the holy virgin is the mother of God Theotokos, for she bore in a fleshly way the Word of God become flesh, let him be anathema."
Yes he’s a Nestorian heretical CULT NOT church. Only Jesus can found a Church. The Church can never be divided your in the holy Catholic Church or your damned. This evil man is splitting Jesus and that’s satanic. Christ is true God and true Man and is the Theotokos.
I was looking for this comment thank you .OO here and the church does not recognize bishops who leave their mother church establish independent churches.
you do not understand or know anything about the belief of church of the east, and do not know anything about how the Council of Ephesus was held by Cyril of Alexandria without the presence of St. Nestorius or the pope or any of the leaders of the Eastern churches, read some history, the only reason the church of the east doesn't use the term theotokos is that it implies that the divinity of the son started when he was born by Mother Mary, and therefore it uses the term "mother of Christ" because it is aligned with the teachings of the church since the 1st century and there is no need to change it, therefore there is nothing heretical about what Nestorius taught since he still taught that Christ had two natures and his humanity was united with his divinity since the moment of conception and forever.
You have the holy Catholic Church. You have 48,000 protestant CULTS. You have the orthodox CULTS. You have the Assyrian CULT. Mr Mar Mari E. is a fake bishop and an anti Christ. He’s a Nestorian heretic who insults Mary and Jesus. And who the HELL made Mr Mar Mari E. the arbitrator of the truth. There’s NO such thing as a so called schismatic church there’s ONLY ONE CHURCH founded two thousand year’s ago by God himself.
@@Tanya-tb8irONLY Jesus can found a Church. You have the holy Catholic Church. The rest are man made CULTS
Let's not forget that, in the chant to nestorius he chanted, other than stating that Mary IS NOT the mother of God (Christotokos, Nestorian Heresy, basically splitting the natures into two different persons), he states that THEY who say she is (Theotokos, as Catholics as myself and Eastern Orthodox believe)are HERETICS. This is NOT A LANGUAGE BARRIER. THIS IS INTENTIONAL. SAYING LIKE IF MARY HAS CREATED GOD OR SOMETHING OR SHE IS BIGGER THAN GOD OR WAS BORN BEFORE HIM. Our beloved Holy Virgin Mary IS the Holy Mother of God. Be aware of your beliefs, I pray our God so He may guide this man to the real truth and stop being a misguiding and misleading heretic. God Bless🙏🏻❤️
I don’t understand something
Jesus is the Son of God
God is the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit
Can we say the Father is God ? Yes
Can we say the Son is God ?
Yes
Can we say the Holy Spirit is God
I don’t really know about this
I know that God is a spirit
And that the Holy Spirit is from God
Jesus is born from Mary by the Holy Spirit but i don’t know why it’s weird for me to say That Mary is the mother of God
@@neortik7 yes my brother, i'll explain
the Son of God in the second person of the triune God.
The second person had a single nature, the Divine Nature
So, the second person of God is God.
By incarnating into mary's womb, the second person of God has taken the human nature too. So, God, as the second person of God, added to his person another nature, having now 2 natures. But he's still One Person, only one person, Fully God. Being that person, the Christ, Jesus Christ of Nazareth, still a hundred 100% God, just incarnating a second divine nature, Holy Mary, who had given birth to him, is the Mother of God. Cause Jesus Christ is 100% God. Having acquired a Human Nature does not imply that he is somehow not a 100% God. Holy Mary did not in any way create the Divine Nature of the second person of God, she had just been blessed by having that immensely holy "due" of being her Mother. That's all. Hope I succed at explaining this delicate topic and please excuse any grammatical or syntactic error of me because english is not my first language, I'm italian :D
God bless!🙏🏻
not nestorian, plain to see, those that say he is are peddling falsehood, this from a catholic, leave him be, THAT WE MIGHT BE ONE !!!!
You don't know theology deeply. He is Nestorian, he reveres him as a Saint but he was condemned by the 4th ecumenical councils for teaching heresy. He misrepresents the meaning of terms. Christokos = Nestorian.
He's actually quite twisty.
@@Durnyfulamen
@@Durnyful ok question
So basically the veigin marry is the mother of god the son the flesh meaning god on earth
God came to us in the flesh to reveal him self to us hence why we say Jesus is Christ as we never seen god the spirit , he revealed him self as yasoou
@@Semaj.18272mar mari calls him christotokos (mother of christ) instead of theotokos (mother of god). He has faulty theology. Watch living orthodox videos about him
i Am From Ethiopia And I Loved Mar Maria And He Make Me To Close To Jeses Crist And I hear from Some Ppl Such Tayp Of Accusation About Him And My Heart Was Achhing And Hevy Abut This😢and I Still Do Not Blieved What Ppl Say And Gaiting Ungry And Defend That He Is Not !!!even If I Do Not Have A Clue What He Belived And Keep On Listnig him
And Prying And Geting Close To My Beloved Jeses Crist .
And fainaly i get my unsewer for my mined who is keep on ask me is he nestorian or not 😊😊 and i am happy 😂😂 God Bless U Mar Maria I Love💓💓U devil is liar
We have the Holy Spirit in wish to see christians from multiple denominations praying to God to give us the Truth. God can do wonders
Good arguments 👍The Pope did blaspheme in singapur - THAT is a real problem.
He is fine up to 8:05 into the video. He teaches the Trinity. Everything he says (other than what he says against critics) until 8:05 is Catholicism. He turns Nestorian (heresy) at 8:05. "Mary, mother of Christ" is coined by Nestorius. Catholicism teaches, Mother of God. He then backs up his heresy with saying his church teaches Christotokos and not Theotokos. That is why Catholics and others are calling him a heretic. That is a term created by Nestorius. Again, he is perfect with the trinity, but his view of "Christ" is heresy. His "Christ" is not the Catholic, Orthodox or Oriental Orthodox definition of Christ. He confirms this in another video where he defines each of their beliefs and then says he believes in "none of the above". This a a dogma and rejecting a dogma is literally the definition of heresy.
Now what he said about his critics. He says we are jealous. He has a very uncharitable view towards his critics. That they are jealous of him. He compares being criticized for teaching heresy with Jesus's experiences. This looks like a sign that he is a bit too full of himself and not addressing his critics honestly. It is good that he defines what he believes, but what he believes is heresy. He should be able to explain that without accusing his critics of being jealous. Frankly, that makes him look worse.
Correct, I agree fully, I could attribute his anger as an expression of frustration but then again, he isn't representing the critics properly.
I think the question is does your church believe that St. Marry is the mother of God ? Other things remain the same and constant with us (Ethiopia Orthodox twahado church ). This is not for allegation but for the sake of clarity , Your honor.
👍👍👍 itu yg dia hindarkan ... seolah dengan menyebut Christotokos dia menghormati Yesus tapi mengabaikan tentang kehadiran Yesus sang ilahi dalam diri manusia Maria yang tanpa 'campur tangan' manusia sebagaimana semua manusia yang ada hadir karen 'campur tangan' manusia ...
Christ being God wouldn't Theotokos and Christotokos both be correct? And Christotokos would just be more specific so that you don't have to make a clarifying statement that she didn't give birth to the devine nature?
Christ is God. Christotokos was born out of nestorius to state that mary ISN'T the mother of God. They deny that she is the mother of God cause to their understanding in order to be the mother of God she should be greater than He and born before him. Completely ignoring, on purpouse or not, that Jesus Christ IS God. Not in part, 50% or anything like that. He is 100% God. So as he is 100% Man. If you say that Mary had not given birth to God, you're saying there is some time, some instant, some instance, in which Christ was not fully God. It's not half and a half, mixed. No. Fully God, Fully Man. No sides, no parts. 2 Natures, 1 Person. God Bless🙏🏻
Thank you so much
Adore means worship. Avoid using the word loosely.
There may be a specific meaning that you attach to your statement, but you could lead others astray.
Dulia and Latria
Dont you adore your mother?
In Catholic theology adore translates latria which is the type of worship due to God alone.
In technical language adore means the highest form of worship...latria. in popular language the meaning is reversed.
Knowledge puffeth up!! But Charity edifies!! Receive this Charitable brother!!😅
Jesus was fully God and Fully Man. He has two nature but one will. Marry was the mother of Jesus Christ who is fully God and Man
its because we are still in sabbath its never said in the book that we left the seventh day we arent supposed to work mans work at all only Creators work and they dont want you to know that.
So his Christology is orthodox. But why not call her Theotokos but Christotokos?
If she gave birth to God incarnate, then she is Theotokos!
I'm confused. So his theology is correct, but it's just the term "Christotokos" that is Nestorian.
Besides, I thought he was defrocked from the church of the East and he is now independent
Mari Mari is a Nestorian heretic. He has said a lot of good things. Has touched a lot of people. But there’s a few damning things, Orthodox Christians need to be warned about. I say Orthodox, because heterodox usually have an ecumenist understanding of church. (1) Mari is a self appointed bishop; (2) Mari was excommunicated from his former heterodox group; (3) He is not in communion with the one holy Orthodox Church; (4) He venerates the heretic Nestorian; (5) He teaches Nestorianism, yet is clever to hide it; (6) Teaches against the Virgin Mary being called the Theotokos; (7) Therefore he has a different Christology. (8) He is not Orthodox, but holds to some Orthodox teaching.; (9) Mari teaches a form of ecumenism, which is heresy.
Yes he is Nestorian, very clear. And he is trying hard to disguise it, in banalizing a very important part of our doctrine
Ah, shame. He used all the the Nestorian heresy at 8:00 in.
Flee from the man who speaks most truth, yet slithers in heresy as if it was not a pink flower amongst a bouqet of white flowers.
so sad that he is Nestorian, but he is a good man
Not a bishop. You can’t declare yourself a bishop.
I rather have him as Pope then Francis
9:44-10:05.
Is it really that serious?
Yes christology matters
@@icxcnika555 It’s not important for salvation
@@Holydecipherit’s important to understand what u believe not just to believe anything it matters deeply nestorisiom is basically saying that Jesus was possessed
@@loyaltyoverlove9374 There is only one person of which we know that he was saved for certain. It was the thief hanging on the cross besides our Lord Jesus. This man did not know of the trinity, let alone those theological things such as christology or sacraments or the scriptures for that matter. What saved him was the acknowledgment of christ as his authority in this and the next life. We are finite humans, we will never understand the nature of god no matter what we do or study. You can only think or believe Mari Emanuel is wrong for being nestorian or whatever, but the same goes for your believe as well. Probably both of you are wrong, simply for the reason that you cannot describe the infinite. The good thing about this is: it doesn’t matter.
@@Holydecipher youre a protestant. nothing is important for you clearly
actually God bless
It's the throne that causes these issues...if every church leader sat on the floor....No Problems😅
Ummmm. His denial of the title of Theotokos for the Blessed Virgin Mary is a form of Nestorian Heresy. It is the denial that she is the Mother of God, separating the nature of Christ.
You don't need to provide a mortal mother to the immortal God. If you don't know it study the Bible! God never calls for a mother at least once! do not be fooled of yourself
@@livestudio5476 This is a debate for catholics and orthodoxs who have the ACTUAL apostolic succession, not protestants who are not provide of enough intelligence. 😉✋🏼
it does not matter who you realy are,what matters most is tha you atre telling the truht bout the lord Jesus
Nestorianism be carefull brothers and sister's
Words like nestorian are buzz words used in hate, get a life!! Praise Jesus With us😅
Christ One Person, two natures! Mary the Mother of one nature only! Gods nature is eternal, not able to be birthed, born!
I think the question is does your church believe that St. Marry is the mother of God ? Other things remain the same and constant with us (Ethiopia Orthodox twahado church ). This is not for allegation but for the sake of clarity , Your honor.
He does not have a church he established his own and that makes any orthodox follower doubt him.
@@Tanya-tb8irreally ?
@@Tanya-tb8ir This is a lie. He is a bishop in the assyrian church of the east which was deemed heretical at the council of ephesus. Do not lie. Disagree with him all you like, i do as well, but do not misrepresent who he is and the existence of his church for 1600 years.
@@jakerrushhe is not anymore...
He have his own church...