Great idea for a DIY'er. I also very much appreciate the honest comment at the end of how this design saves money, but takes time. Suggestion - large headed bolts, heads down, screwed into place instead of metal rods. Inexpensive and if short ones are bought - no cutting.
I appreciate anyone that takes the time and trouble to produce a video, more so if I find the information useful. This was great, helpful hints, pointing out possible mistakes, detailed instructions, honest comments about purchase versus DIY. Perfect, thank you.
Thank you David, glad you got something from the video. Oddly enough I’m now employed by Magswitch and this is the video that started me down that path. Life is funny
Nice job! You might want to mention that when you sand the surface smooth, make sure not to heat up the magnets as high temperatures cause a loss of magnetism.
Andrew, I am really pleased to have found your channel (via James @ Stumpy Nubs). I'm a retired engineer/toolmaker who has discovered the joy of working with wood in my retirement, but I still love using the metal lathe and milling machine as much as the wood shop machines, and I am seeing some great project ideas already. I will absolutely be making a switchable magnet, but probably not copying your design exactly. BTW I have a pretty cool vice project getting close to being finished, but nowhere near as elaborate as your twin screw vice. That is a thing of beauty!
@@AndrewKleinWW 👍 I ESPECIALLY like the part when you tell us the $PRICE$ of each piece ~that’s very informative & helpful, in THIS particular type of demonstration (comparing). Most people don’t share info as frankly as you did & I appreciate this. 🤩😇👏 THANK YOU 👏👍🥳🇨🇦❤️
Andrew, congratulations clever design. this "platter" design is similar to a design from GM, patented in 2005. By the way Ok for people to still build but, u need permission for commercial products. Magswitch has different platter design, we use different sizes. 10mm. 15mm, 20mm and 30mm. The sizes effect field depth and smaller is stronger, relatively, than the larger on thin material
Nice! A handle would be and awesome addition since you'd be lifting stuff, backside of where those screws go in could be an awesome attach point, just use longer screws :) Awesome tool for the shop!
I thought “glue sticks” are used to make “hot glue”??? BTW ~(since I’m here)~ Can someone tell me if there are glue sticks of different “quality’s” that work better than others, cause the dollar store glue does NOT work well, 🤔🗯 BUT MAYBE it’s because of my “glue gun”? ... also from the dollar store 😕 THANK YOU for helpful replies & suggestions 👍😊
@@judy-9999 While the rods that go into a hot glue gun have come to be known as glue sticks, David was referring to the kind that children used in place of liquid or paste glue in school -- essentially a thick paste glue in a lipstick dispenser.
Thanks Andy! Templates are downloaded and the project is added to my list, er, scroll. I'm thinking aluminum might be more durable than plywood, especially in the machine shop.
I’m an artist, and often work on very large canvases/panels. Up until now, rather than use an easel, I have used a cleat system where I have what looks a bit like a ladder mounted near the wall with “rungs” comprised of wood cleats with the top edge beveled back 45 degrees, and a corresponding piece of wood screwed to the back side of the panel with the other half of the cleat, bottom edge beveled back 45 degrees. Then, I can simply slip the panel onto a “rung” at the desired height rather than have to climb up on a stool to work on parts of the paintings. But it’s a pain, with larger panels, to have to ask someone to assist me in raising and lowering the piece onto different rungs. So I’m making a new system without cleats where a winch will do the raising and lowering of a sled that will somehow connect to the back side of the panel. Only, I’ve been stuck trying to figure out how to securely connect the panels to the sled. What I want is to be able to slip the panel onto the sled while the panel is resting on the floor. Compounding things is that I’d really like the option of rotating the paintings to work on them inverted at times (when working abstractly). All that to say that while your video has given me a good solution that should allow me to not only secure a panel to a sled but also rotate it. I think I’ll want something like what you’ve made, only more like 2’ in diameter, with more magnets, and the ability to do a full 360 rotation, not just a back and forth, on/off.
The steal posts are separate. When he turns the top they align with the ones on the bottom and transfer the magnetic field to the bottom posts. Turning them on.
@@Laugh1ngboy Nothing is stolen. Also, the steel posts are aligned in both positions, however, the magnets are arranged so that in one position they line up so that the top and bottom work together to make a much stronger field, and in the other position, they are aligned so that the magnets of the 2 layers basically cancel each other. This is why the magnets have to be alternated. If they weren't alternated, then this wouldn't work, because there would be no difference in what is lined up in the different positions. If you really want to suck all the fun out of it, check out the explanation here: www.kjmagnetics.com/blog.asp?p=magswitch
SOOO glad you used Baltic lol you should sand each piece separate with 4-600 grit then Minwax paste wax polish the. They’ll be protected and super low friction and look great
Just a quick tip about applying patterns in case it comes in handy for you. You can transfer the toner from laser prints with a cloths iron. Works best if you print to glossy paper. Hey what was the cost on each for the magnets?
I've always wondered how mag locks work and this video just made the electrons hit the filament! Maybe if enough of us make our own then it will cause a glut from the factories and drop the price ? Hehehe
4:25 (all I needed is a diagram with arrows to understand but the more I read what you said the more confused about what polarity with each magnet) [quoted: its really simple how to put this together: All you need to do i reverse the polarity on the magnets every other one so what I do generally is just have a line of magnets together so I know they're lined up I just go every other one os three of the six skipping every other one with the direction the same and then do the other three with a direction reverse that's all]
I used the large template and 50% sized the plans and used 1/4" rod and magnets. It worked pretty well and for cutting the rod, I drilled a hole through a chunk of 4x4 ane pushed theres through to length and used a metal blade on my sawzall. Not as good as a bandsaw, but much easier than a hacksaw.
Very cool. I picked up two 6" 120v electromagnets that are just.. INSANE.. But I don't really know what to do with them other than build a wheeled nail picker upper.. I bet I could rip metal out of the ground from 4 inches down with these babies lol but I havent' attempted that project yet. Otherwise idk what I'd use magnets like this for.
If the the top and bottom of a post are the same polarity (switched on), to get to the other pole flux will go through whatever the magnet is placed on to get to the next post. If the discs are rotated so the magnets on top and bottom are different, a magnetic circuit is formed between the center post and the outer one and there would be almost no field strength on the outside. On. Off. (N-S). (N-S) (N-S). (S-N)
Would it work to use stacked washers instead of cut steel rod? I"m just trying to think of a way to create this design without having to figure out how to cut through steel rod. I also thought that steel dowels might work but for the size I'm thinking they are a little too long, maybe.
Just a suggestion to make it easier to build. In the beginning you glued the template to the wood. If you buy full sheet labels and print it out on that it'll stick right on without glue.
This vid just showed up and I noticed that you must be the guy that built Adam's new bench. Beautiful design of both the Bench and the switch. Is there any way to unlock (i.e. provide a slide option) on your vice design in addition to the two speed version. (on the bench) I know that the solid wood design is certainly a selling point, but I wonder about stability over the years. I used 3 layers of 3/4" mdf w/ Maple & Cherry top for my bench, but certainly think you did an absolute fantastic job on Adam's bench and love the steel frame. (Again assuming you were the designer).
Could you see a way to make a generator from this ? The force needed to turn off the magnet looks a lot less than the force of attraction when activated. Should be possible eh
WITCHCRAFT...BOIL HIM IN OIL! But seriously this is super cool...I've wondered how switchable magnets work for a long time but never imagined it was so straightforward. Awesome wood working skills too, I exclusively work in metal...i can machine exotic alloyies to ten thousanths of an inch but, I struggle to build a wooden box.
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Great idea for a DIY'er. I also very much appreciate the honest comment at the end of how this design saves money, but takes time.
Suggestion - large headed bolts, heads down, screwed into place instead of metal rods. Inexpensive and if short ones are bought - no cutting.
I really like your honesty and straightforward approach. It was an interesting build, thanks.
I appreciate anyone that takes the time and trouble to produce a video, more so if I find the information useful. This was great, helpful hints, pointing out possible mistakes, detailed instructions, honest comments about purchase versus DIY. Perfect, thank you.
Thank you David, glad you got something from the video. Oddly enough I’m now employed by Magswitch and this is the video that started me down that path. Life is funny
Your sales pitch at the end was spot on... That was very cool to watch, thanks for sharing.
It was kinda an anti sales pitch, haha
Nice job! You might want to mention that when you sand the surface smooth, make sure not to heat up the magnets as high temperatures cause a loss of magnetism.
Andrew, I am really pleased to have found your channel (via James @ Stumpy Nubs). I'm a retired engineer/toolmaker who has discovered the joy of working with wood in my retirement, but I still love using the metal lathe and milling machine as much as the wood shop machines, and I am seeing some great project ideas already. I will absolutely be making a switchable magnet, but probably not copying your design exactly. BTW I have a pretty cool vice project getting close to being finished, but nowhere near as elaborate as your twin screw vice. That is a thing of beauty!
Thanks for being so frank and telling the things as they are!
You bet
@@AndrewKleinWW 👍 I ESPECIALLY like the part when you tell us the $PRICE$ of each piece ~that’s very informative & helpful, in THIS particular type of demonstration (comparing). Most people don’t share info as frankly as you did & I appreciate this. 🤩😇👏 THANK YOU 👏👍🥳🇨🇦❤️
I appreciate your honest assessment about the price and savings at the end.
That was one of the neatest builds I've seen in a long time. Thanks a bunch for your time and content man... Well done.
Thank you, good to hear
Very interesting video. I appreciate your straight forward advice at the end when discussing cost and time. Keep up the good work
I don't yet know where I will need this, but I have to make it! Thanks for thorough instructions!🤘😎👍
I really appreciate your reflections at the end of you fine video!
You bet
Genious build! And your honesty speaks words. Love your channel!
Thanks Dave, means a lot
Looks very handy for holding things in place, and then being able to switch it off and remove it without scuffing up the workpiece. Great stuff! ;-)
Andrew, congratulations clever design. this "platter" design is similar to a design from GM, patented in 2005. By the way Ok for people to still build but, u need permission for commercial products. Magswitch has different platter design, we use different sizes. 10mm. 15mm, 20mm and 30mm. The sizes effect field depth and smaller is stronger, relatively, than the larger on thin material
Are you David Morton, Magswitch CEO? If so I’m adding you on linked in.
@@AndrewKleinWW I guess that turned out well, huh? 😂
Nice! A handle would be and awesome addition since you'd be lifting stuff, backside of where those screws go in could be an awesome attach point, just use longer screws :) Awesome tool for the shop!
I really like this video and it got me thinking...I'm working on a version with two switchables and a handle for picking up and moving my 3D printer
Glue sticks, not hot glue, work well for glueing paper templates without a mess or squeeze out.
I thought “glue sticks” are used to make “hot glue”???
BTW ~(since I’m here)~ Can someone tell me if there are glue sticks of different “quality’s” that work better than others, cause the dollar store glue does NOT work well, 🤔🗯 BUT MAYBE it’s because of my “glue gun”? ... also from the dollar store 😕 THANK YOU for helpful replies & suggestions 👍😊
@@judy-9999 While the rods that go into a hot glue gun have come to be known as glue sticks, David was referring to the kind that children used in place of liquid or paste glue in school -- essentially a thick paste glue in a lipstick dispenser.
I like the barbells that you used to demonstrate the magnets
Reject gear need to be useful for something
Super strong magnets! Why not make the outside shape rectangular so you have a reference surface that is flat and consistent?
Actually 6-sided would be better for installing all the magnets (and drilling their holes).
Very similar to Larry Fullerton's "Correlated Magnets," a technology that you might be fascinated with.
another great project Andy thanks
GREAT build and HONEST review.
Thanks Andy! Templates are downloaded and the project is added to my list, er, scroll. I'm thinking aluminum might be more durable than plywood, especially in the machine shop.
I’m sure that’s true, would love to see an aluminum version
You made a printed one, how about a lexan sheet, or one made by pouring epoxy?
Thanks Andrew, love you video's and subscribed.
This was incredibly cool. What a useful tool to make!
Thanks!
I’m an artist, and often work on very large canvases/panels. Up until now, rather than use an easel, I have used a cleat system where I have what looks a bit like a ladder mounted near the wall with “rungs” comprised of wood cleats with the top edge beveled back 45 degrees, and a corresponding piece of wood screwed to the back side of the panel with the other half of the cleat, bottom edge beveled back 45 degrees. Then, I can simply slip the panel onto a “rung” at the desired height rather than have to climb up on a stool to work on parts of the paintings. But it’s a pain, with larger panels, to have to ask someone to assist me in raising and lowering the piece onto different rungs. So I’m making a new system without cleats where a winch will do the raising and lowering of a sled that will somehow connect to the back side of the panel. Only, I’ve been stuck trying to figure out how to securely connect the panels to the sled. What I want is to be able to slip the panel onto the sled while the panel is resting on the floor. Compounding things is that I’d really like the option of rotating the paintings to work on them inverted at times (when working abstractly). All that to say that while your video has given me a good solution that should allow me to not only secure a panel to a sled but also rotate it. I think I’ll want something like what you’ve made, only more like 2’ in diameter, with more magnets, and the ability to do a full 360 rotation, not just a back and forth, on/off.
A lot of amateur engineering sprung from my mind as I followed your interesting video. Thanks.
2:11 nice to see all your proper safety precautions !
Really cool. Looks like it was a fun time.
Fantastic video Andrew!
This would have been a lot more interesting if you had done some explaining about how and why this thing works.
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Even the Insane Clown Posse doesn't understand magnets, how do you expect anyone else to figure it out?
The steal posts are separate. When he turns the top they align with the ones on the bottom and transfer the magnetic field to the bottom posts. Turning them on.
@@Laugh1ngboy Nothing is stolen. Also, the steel posts are aligned in both positions, however, the magnets are arranged so that in one position they line up so that the top and bottom work together to make a much stronger field, and in the other position, they are aligned so that the magnets of the 2 layers basically cancel each other. This is why the magnets have to be alternated. If they weren't alternated, then this wouldn't work, because there would be no difference in what is lined up in the different positions. If you really want to suck all the fun out of it, check out the explanation here: www.kjmagnetics.com/blog.asp?p=magswitch
@@root1657 Well I didn't figure on telling every one the entire secret on how to build your own. Invalidating the reason to purchase plans.
SOOO glad you used Baltic lol you should sand each piece separate with 4-600 grit then Minwax paste wax polish the. They’ll be protected and super low friction and look great
I've often cleaned metal filings from magnets by padding/rubbing them with duct tape.
Easier to put the magnets in a plastic bag and then just 'unwrap' the magnet and 'wrap' the filings at the same time.
Nicely done clean workmanship
Thank you
Looks good. well presented.
I found it interesting. Didn't understand 90% of it, but interesting none the less.
Briliant as allways
super dope. thanks for making this.
Very cool project!!! Thank you for sharing.
You bet, thanks
Just a quick tip about applying patterns in case it comes in handy for you. You can transfer the toner from laser prints with a cloths iron. Works best if you print to glossy paper. Hey what was the cost on each for the magnets?
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Awesome build bud!!
Thank you
Like the logo! Makes perfect sense.
Thanks Paul, glad to hear it
Andrew, how did you find out how those "mag switches" work? I had wondered that ever since they came out. Thanks for sharing it with us kind Sir.
Oooh! It's magnitizing the steel posts! I've been wondering about that.
I've always wondered how mag locks work and this video just made the electrons hit the filament! Maybe if enough of us make our own then it will cause a glut from the factories and drop the price ? Hehehe
Nice video, thank you so much sir.
That sir was brilliant. Thanks.
Thank you!
Interesting project. Don't need one but cool to see how the switching around of magnets neutralises each other.
Awesome video. You got skills bro. Definitely worthy of like and sub.
Nice project. The metal rods are placed to provide a stronger concentration of the magnetic flux within a smaller area.
Very nice build 👍
Thank you!
awesome! Thanks for sharing
4:25 (all I needed is a diagram with arrows to understand but the more I read what you said the more confused about what polarity with each magnet) [quoted: its really simple how to put this together: All you need to do i reverse the polarity on the magnets every other one so what I do generally is just have a line of magnets together so I know they're lined up I just go every other one os three of the six skipping every other one with the direction the same and then do the other three with a direction reverse that's all]
Good honest and interesting video, thanks for sharing
Thank you!
I just want to know what they're useful for. Neat video
Nice job.
SIMPLY AWESOME
Awesome. Just subscribed.
well thought out
I would like you to do a flat magnetic switch to hold knifes to sharp them
Iakleind that’s what it looks like, only because the black semicircle fills up the visual gap, like the last d.
Love your videos; keep on keeping up
It’s a fair point, logos are hard, I’m still pretty happy with this one. Glad you like the content
I used the large template and 50% sized the plans and used 1/4" rod and magnets. It worked pretty well and for cutting the rod, I drilled a hole through a chunk of 4x4 ane pushed theres through to length and used a metal blade on my sawzall. Not as good as a bandsaw, but much easier than a hacksaw.
Awesome, you post pictures anywhere?
@@AndrewKleinWW I didnt. It's not pretty, just my first whack at it. LARGE learning experience...
Very cool. I picked up two 6" 120v electromagnets that are just.. INSANE.. But I don't really know what to do with them other than build a wheeled nail picker upper.. I bet I could rip metal out of the ground from 4 inches down with these babies lol but I havent' attempted that project yet. Otherwise idk what I'd use magnets like this for.
Really good job..
Perfect for 3d printing
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I agree
No way! So cool!!
Pretty cool, I’d definitely like to know more about how these work. I bet you could print one of these pretty easy as well.
A how it works video and print/CNC files are probably coming in the future
If the the top and bottom of a post are the same polarity (switched on), to get to the other pole flux will go through whatever the magnet is placed on to get to the next post. If the discs are rotated so the magnets on top and bottom are different, a magnetic circuit is formed between the center post and the outer one and there would be almost no field strength on the outside.
On. Off.
(N-S). (N-S)
(N-S). (S-N)
you got it
There are a number of videos on RUclips that explain how they work.
You have answered the question I've had concerning the magnetic base on my dial-indicator mount.
Neat idea.
Smart tool . You made American great again . Thank you ..........................
Would it work to use stacked washers instead of cut steel rod? I"m just trying to think of a way to create this design without having to figure out how to cut through steel rod. I also thought that steel dowels might work but for the size I'm thinking they are a little too long, maybe.
Nice, thank you !
Which brad point drill bit set do you use/recommend?
Nice!
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more of a watch me build than a how to. but good to see its achievable as a DIY
One word: spray glue
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Great video!
Just a suggestion to make it easier to build. In the beginning you glued the template to the wood. If you buy full sheet labels and print it out on that it'll stick right on without glue.
Very cool
Could you design a switchable magnet for holding a piece of work under a Milling machine or belt sander?
This vid just showed up and I noticed that you must be the guy that built Adam's new bench. Beautiful design of both the Bench and the switch. Is there any way to unlock (i.e. provide a slide option) on your vice design in addition to the two speed version. (on the bench) I know that the solid wood design is certainly a selling point, but I wonder about stability over the years. I used 3 layers of 3/4" mdf w/ Maple & Cherry top for my bench, but certainly think you did an absolute fantastic job on Adam's bench and love the steel frame. (Again assuming you were the designer).
How much force to turn it vs how muhc does it pull?
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How about if i use cube neodymium 10mm x 10mm x 10mm ?
The iron rod in the centre and six arround, they are just iron bar, or magnet also ?
Can you make a smaller version to attach to a pair of gloves? Put an actuating switch on the side by the thumb
Could you see a way to make a generator from this ? The force needed to turn off the magnet looks a lot less than the force of attraction when activated. Should be possible eh
thats a trip, you sound like you're in your 40s but look like you are in your 20s
trust the sound
WITCHCRAFT...BOIL HIM IN OIL!
But seriously this is super cool...I've wondered how switchable magnets work for a long time but never imagined it was so straightforward.
Awesome wood working skills too, I exclusively work in metal...i can machine exotic alloyies to ten thousanths of an inch but, I struggle to build a wooden box.
You could build it out of a non ferrous material instead of ply. Perhaps a bit of scrap under your bench? :-)
Have you ever measured ow much pull force you can get from these when on?
Just bought the plans, and well I expected a dimensioned or a .dxf or .dwg file also. Would that be something you can send out too? Thanks
Sent you an email
Parabéns pelo seu video muito bom seu trabalho parabéns
Amazing job!! I am puzzled abt how stuff works-
I got a magnetic sweeper for my garage floor but it's a pain to clean. I wonder if this could work better. Really awesome build
Put a plastic bag or rag around the magnet. Then you can just pull off all the bits in one go.
Thanks, glad you liked it!
I put the magnet in a plastic screw-top jar. After sweeping I just take off the lid, pull the magnet out and whatever was picked up just falls off.
@@arnarbi Same, I have a sandwich bag over the end of mine, and just pull it off over the trash can and it all falls in the trash.
Awesome!
Are the pins just to hold the smaller magnets in place? Pretty cool project. I came here curious how these actually work.
Interesting yes, but what is it for?
waht is it for?
great idea but doesn't hammering the magnets reduce their power?
What brad point drill,bit set d you like?
These: www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=42247&cat=1,180,42240,42247
Pricey but so very good