@@anshsoni2377 thats not it....they are just spoilt.. they keep using higher end stuff and even when the lower end stuff is good enough they compare it with their experience over the higher end ones and tell that these are bad
@@nilashreelenka584 Its because they dont use it. I agree with what you say and when they actually USE the device for what they need to use it for (Like Austin Evans just did with the ipad 7th gen) They realize that it actually is good. But when they just make a review and only use it for 2 seconds to watch youtube video to get footage for their review, they just complain "not enough powuUR" when they haven't even tried to use it
I mostly use Android. Not because im a fan of anyone but I dont want to spend a lot of money unescessary. I got the ipad and i'm using it as a notebook and an typing machine on the go, email and word. Using the adonit note too since I'm no artist. Couldn't be happier about my choice and no complain as far as 2 months using them.
Cause it isn't. You just needed someone to say "You can only afford this but don't be sorry this is ok too" for you. iPad Pro is definitely a much much better device.
I absolutely despise Apple as a Company. Almost all their Products have a ridiculous price tag, that their performance can't justify. They're bad and expensive. HOWEVER the iPad is the one Productline they have, where I actually say they're the best at.
You're better off with the Pro. May seem like you wasted money with this cheaper option available now, but you just got a MUCH better device for not too much more cash.
If I knew, I would have bought the new one. I've got the 12.9 Pro, bought 3-4 months ago, and I use it mainly for drawing. 12.9 Pro 64g + pencil is 1000dollars (here in italy). Yes 120hz screen, 4gb ram, truetone, stereo speaker, laminated display, but for 350 I could have obtained the same result (or at least a similar one) for what concerns the main reason I bought the device.
Just want to say that, your channel has the best reviews from an artist perspective, you get straight to the point without losing any time with those unboxing shenanigans. I get that ppl like to see the unboxing, but its largely irrelevant if you are trying to know how the device actually works. As for the iPad slowing down, thats just normal, both software and hardware are subject to Wear and Tear ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wear_and_tear ). The software part that's easy to fix, just clean it up. The hardware though, its inevitable, and nothing you can really do about it. Another factor to consider is avoiding upgrading the OS to any much higher version to what it was originally conceived and designed to use. Obviously as technology progresses, OSes become more feature rich and require additional "power" to operate. If you try to install a modern OS in some device that is 10 years old, you will most certainly feel some loss in performance.
OMG thank you thank you thank you a million times thank you!! Lol you don’t even know how many videos I’ve watched just for you to answer soo flawlessly on whether or not this new ipad work well with illustration and etc!
Thanks! That's great to hear, I started doing these videos for that exact reason. Watching a bunch of videos that didn't answer the basic questions I had.
Apple made an official statement about the slowing down thing, it because lithium batteries aren't very stable over a long time, when you put a new battery in it (wich you can get done for free at an apple store) it will run like new. Hope this helps, cheers.
"If your iPhone issue is covered by warranty, AppleCare+, or consumer law, we'll replace your battery at no charge" I got this from the apple website, but ive read that it costs 20 dollars somewhere else too so i dont know anymore.
Helios Well my htc one m8 that is now 3 years old just randomly shuts off and crashes because of the old battery inside and it doesnt slow down, im with apple on this either way.
Newer iOS versions are written for newer hardware, and older hardware always struggles a bit more to run it. Only way to conserve launch speed is to not update.
I'm a Windows user - not fanboy. If I could, I'd have a Win, Mac, and a Linux PC in my work room, I like the 3 OSes- so, forgive the question, but... No update means then less security ? I mean, in Windows, one can even update ONLY the security updates after the main support cycle has ended.
I have a 1st gen iPad Pro since release date, and i don't have any slowdown. Maybe x app runs slower or y app runs faster; but this is due te x or y app updates, not the hardware or iOs updates. Procreate runs fast as always. Same with Astropad / Astropad Studio, even some 3D apps i use occasionally. I have other kind of problems (like gestures don't work from time to time), but not slowdowns.
Omg I am late but I find that sometime the palm rejection doesn’t work and I need my pencil to be atleast 10 percent for it to fully work but have you noticed anythins
Hi Brad! (This is about the 1st gen ipad stuff you mentioned at the end) I have the 1st generation ipad pro as well (via your reviews recommending it), and I haven't been having any issues with the ipad slowing down. In fact, after watching, I connect to astropad and gave it a go with as similar a test I could manage as the one you demonstrated. I had absolutely no slowdown whatsoever. The only difference I could see is that I'm using the Studio version of Astropad, rather than yours (which I assume is Astropad Standard). I don't know if this is based on when you got your ipad, when I got mine (some kind of revision on mine, since I didn't get it day one?) or Astropad is slowing down, as opposed to studio, or even that I might not have used my ipad nearly as much as you have, and as such my battery is more "fresh" (I don't know how much you utilize your ipad compared to me, so I'm a bit in the dark on that one) I just wanted to bring that to your attention, since there may be something other than Apple at play here. Whether or not that is the case, Love the review! Always happy to see you in my subscription box! Keep up the awesome videos!
That hardware slowdown is exactly why I left Apple products. Every iPhone, iPad, and Mac I had slowed down greatly over just a few years. I assumed the way they attached security updates to the OS updates that also included new features was the only reason things were slowing down. Once I saw they actually WERE slowing devices down, I was out.
I have the iPad 6, I don’t use the Apple Pencil, I use a MoKo stylus without pressure sensitivity or tilt or Bluetooth, so in about a little bit, I’m probably going to change to the Apple Pencil, but the iPad 6 is an amaaaaazing iPad, it handles drawings well, it handles big files well, it has a 1080p screen, your asking for the best budget iPad in the world, including the Apple Pencil or a bamboo stylus that will be an additional $100, so about $350 if you get the iPad 32 gigs with the Apple Pencil And yes, i liked my own comment, SO SUE ME!
Apple devices had always been slowing down after 2 year even before this slow down thing appeared. Older processors just cannot keep up with the newer, more power hungry software. Also this intentional slowdown just does not help Apple devices as well.
aeriose First gen iPad pro has an A9X processor whereas this new iPad has A10 processor. A10 chip is marginally faster in single and multicore performance. In addition to that as I said older hardware is only one reason. Other reason is probably far more important which is intentional slowdown by Apple themselves. First gen iPad pro comes from the era of this issue. Same era as iPhone 6s so it is probably slowed down by Apple.
@@beacarbo6344 he's not going to answer because he was advertising or paid to say ipad6 is great he probably doesn't even use it as for the layers they are 4-10 depending on the resloution oh and ipad6 after 2 years will get laggier somewhat not very much but it gets a bit slower so try to get the ipad7 or galaxy tab s6 ( about 600$ including the pen )
@@beacarbo6344 congratulations ☺ it's great device , 3 gigs of ram is amazing . Make sure you get procreate and infinite painter + sketchbook apps if you like to draw they are all great Good luck 😄
I was lucky and got the iPad 2018 (32GB) as a gift. It's my very first venture into drawing using a tablet and I have to say it's been a wonderful experience. I tried tablets for drawing several years ago and was not impressed but how things have improved! The iPad 2018 really does feel like a credible alternative to the good old A5 paper sketchbook, and I don't say that lightly. After a hiatus from drawing for several years (after burn out) I am now doodling every day because of the iPad. Thanks for the video, Brad.
9:54 he says that as an irony of the negative comments he just made. If he's an apple fanboy, why would he say bad stuff about apple...something like that
I have a first generation small iPad Pro and I probably wouldn’t e able to tell the difference when using the new one. I’ve only had it for a year and a half, and that is kind of annoying. I don’t expect to have an IPad for ever, like my 8 year old cintiq, but 18 months or two years is not worth what I spend. Specially since (best case scenario) I still have do do a final edit in photoshop of any piece done there before I send it to the client.
Hey guys.i have this ipad and i’ve had it since release date(2 years ago) and i really recommend it I think it only lagged once or twice in the last two years and it’s still really fast.
Also to add that cintuq is mostly a screen. The iPad has other use cases which gives it more wear. Another note is that the 12.9 pro is nicer to do split screen. So if you’re using reference photos it’s pretty nice.
@@fizzah5158 Recently Apple announced they allow free trade of battery. Most people are dumb enough to just buy a new product so it didn't cost them much 😁.
This is exactly what I was looking for. All I wanted to know is if 1.the air-gap in the screen makes a difference and 2. if the refresh rate matters: and you answered that with confidence and conviction - it does not! I wish someone would compare the new Surface though! (Given you can run full steam photoshop)
Thanks Brad! I had really been considering if I should replace my iPad Air 2 with the new iPad 6th gen or a Pro with all the drawing I'm going to do for my next project, and you definitely solved that for me. I can get 2 of these for the EXACT price of one iPad pro - and with the battery degradation you talk about - that would be the smarter choice. I didn't even consider it, despite the fact that the battery in my iPad Air 2 is basically dead. If I charge it fully and just lay it idly on a table for 3 days, it dies and needs a new charge. The truetone display is not really a selling point on a graphics device if you ask me. I want to see the real colors. So the only thing left is the space between the digitizer and the screen - and I will just take your word that it is not super noticeable when you use it.
I bring good news from the future (nov2021), this iPad still works perfectly!!!! I bought my iPad 6th gen with 128gb of memory based on Brad’s review (and Teoh’s), and I can say it was an amazing buy. The only problem I have had is the layers limitation, other than that, it is still perfect.
This video convinced me to finally take the plunge on a new iPad (just picked mine up yesterday!). I've been eyeing down the Pro for a couple years, but it's so expensive. Your overview answered all of the questions I had about its performance and I'm very grateful! Anyway, thank you. I haven't drawn much in years, so hopefully this will be a nice motivation to get back into it.
Brad Colbow Agreeing with Min Lungelow’s comment - a reset can work wonders, or you could even try deleting and reinstalling slightly fewer and fresh copies of apps if you want to give that a shot first. I’ve seen just deleting some apps work wonders for an iPad 2 that still runs well that a family member of mine uses daily (7 years after they bought it). Worst case I’ve had was an iPad Air that had awful backup issues, where it was so laggy on the backup, it’d take 12 hours to do it. On top of that, it also suffered massively on its first update to iOS 11, crashing and slowing to the point of being unusable. In that case, I manually backed up all my important files to my computer and icloud, wiped the device, deleted the old iTunes backups, and then set the iPad up again as a brand new device and reloaded my files. Since then, it’s been clipping along at a nice happy pace, rarely crashes (if ever), and backups have been faster than this device has ever seen. It even worked at least decently with Astropad for the first time in its life (although, to be fair, I’d also deleted and reinstalled Astropad on my computer too, and I think they’d made also some improvements since I had tried the program last, so that may have contributed as well). I hope you’re able to get your iPad running nice and fast again. Best wishes! 👍
Exactly what I've been waiting for! I've been trying to decide between the 10.5 pro and the 2018 iPad. I can afford the Pro but I could save the $700 and get the 2018. Hmm I'm not sure what to do now 😫 Any opinions?
Different is with Display pen it doesn’t process program on its own so it won’t slow down that easy. With ipad it processing everything on it so the longer you use, the more cache or files running around and that’s slowing down the device. It’s something we all have to deal with
I had an ipad mini 1st generation up to this day still working only i drop it and broke the glass ... i also have samsung galaxy tab A with spen for 4 years now and i still love it i use it whole day every day for taking notes , watching youtube and some other things i drop them on the ground 2x and not a scratch, unlike my ipad mini drop once glass broken immidiately...
I've been debating Ipad for about a year, being a Graphic Design student. Along with being a student also comes the budget of a student. For me, it was cheap or none. I mustered enough for a wacom intuos pro, but i now want to get something i can draw directly on. This review convinced me that I should get the new IPad 2018, though i would love a pro, this will definitely do the job. Thank you for helping me in my decision with a very entertaining video!
The base Ipad, was outstanding good value if you look at how potent the hardware, actually are versus price... Im not an Apple guy, but needed a device with Lightning port for an Infrared camera and purchse first one in early 2018, and was so impressed that I also picked one up for my mom. after all getting 3600&6100 in single/multicore and 13.500 in Compute in Geek4 was impressive scores for a budget device to like 300 USD and even with high-end Android devices in early 2018 it was difficult to reach 13.500 on the graphic SoC chip. and likely also the reason why 2019 are getting the same SoC as the A10 did perform above and beyond what you could expect at that price.
I got the iPad immediately after it came out and the primary use was for sketching with the Apple pen. It's been an awesome experience. I couldn't justify buying a full fledged iPad Pro (too expensive, same for a Cintiq), so this was my only option for getting something that is better than a graphic tablet where you draw in one place (plastic tablet) and look at your art in another place (screen) - ugh. The iPad with the Apple Pen has been one of the best purchases I made in a long time.
Heard if you erase the ipad pro and start fresh, which is what an apple tech is saying should be done each year anyway, it should take care of your slow down issue. 'reimagine' them?
Got myself the iPad 2018 and a pencil for $345 here in India. I went for the combo after watching your video, Brad. Thank you for doing this. Made my buy all the more easier since I was considering the iPad Pro. But, I guess we will just have to wait and see what happens in the iPad Pro event next week and see if I should buy that for my work side of things.
Lilly Aguilar I couldn't figure that out for drawing at all! I tried it a few times and I hate it and feel like I'm the only one. Must be something I'm doing wrong. I hope your comment gets more traction because I would love to love Affinity Photo but, right now, I just can't.
Meiya007 it feels like autocorrect, but for drawing... like I’m trying to sketch and it’ll snap to points and correct lines after I made them... I just want to sketch! I don’t know how to mess with settings just to get it to draw with... (cry forever...)
Your best option is draw in procreate, I've tried affinity photo for that and my ipad is and pencil are not reacting well to it. The lag is horrible but whereas photo editing works flawlessly.
As far as I know you can diminish the stabilizer/smoothing strength (in every app ! ). I've drawn both in Affinity Photo and Designer, no serious problems, but other than that is like any other application for desktop. If you are on desktop, for *image editing* (aka photo retouch, etc) the best route is Affinity *Photo* , or if needing less features and kind of prefer the type of UI, PaintShop Pro . For professionals, IMO is better Affinity Photo, as for drawing feel, for now is better PSP .The company behind Affinity, Serif, plans to rebuild the drawing system, I think. Once that arrives, my advice would be A. Photo all the way in any case, just like Photoshop has its advantages on keeping all tasks in the same app. But totally, for actually just painting, my hugest recommendation is going for Krita. Not just because it is FREE! . But because of QUALITY and ease of use. Get the version 4 at krita.org . Is freakin' fully free. And if want the most amazing ever tool for comic drawing ink line art (krita gives IMO much more variety in PAINTING tools), give it a try to the commercial application called Clip Studio Paint (before known as Manga Studio, and I believe yet so called inside Japan) . It totally rocks. And indeed, has good enough painting tools and features - like for digital painting- even if krita seems to have more variety in that department. I indeed often recommend using both. And I am a Photoshop expert, and pro in many other painting apps. I know what I'm speaking about. I would NOT go for CSP in iPad, as I think they made it subscription based, and I hate that. In desktop is not. Is just a cheap purchase. If you are in the iPad, I'd go with Procreate, personally. As mentioned by some, above. And surely Sketchbook.Both. First one as is quite a complete illustration application with enough features and case scenarios for actual work. Sketchbook as... dunno, I always loved how good is that one for actually drawing, fresh lines, etc. Look, giving a try to several tools is a cool thing to do, even to acquire several. Along complex projects, you step with issues that are dealt better in some software tool than another, and the other way round. The more, the merrier, after all, all these are DIRTY cheap, at least if your personal pocket allows you already to pay for an internet connection.... ;) And if really not even small cash available, GO FOR KRITA. That thing is a jewel, and it is free.
Oh... and KRITA does have an entire module to do certain 2D animation, with onion skin feature and all that. Kind of I'm more just into digital painting, and drawing. But is quite a nice addon to be able to do some animation inside Krita, too !
I don’t update my iPad or Apple products. Apple bricked my iPhone 4s when I update from iOS 6 to iOS 9. I delayed it for as long as I could. Then apps wouldn’t let me use the app, until I updated. Big mistake. Don’t trust Apple so much. iPad Pro I have is great, but I plucking know they are going to mess with it.
Thank you so much for always posting these tablet review videos! When I'm considering buying a tablet, you're always the first person I search for because your reviews are always so thorough and I think you're really trustworthy in your reviews. :) I know this video is a little bit older, but I hope that you see this comment nonetheless. Thanks again!!
People are complaining about the screen and the size of the screen. Man, I could care less. I came from an Ipadmini2 drawing with the wacom stylus (Which was pretty good.) This is such a huge step up for me and its cheaper than the pro! I picked it up instanty!!
Just got one of these iPads a couple days ago, specifically for illustrating and sketching, and I'm singing it's praises. I can hardly tell a difference between this and the iPad Pros... and it's half the cost.
I've come to this: never, ever, EVER, upgrade the software. If you're not happy with the way they are, don't buy it yet. If you do, NEVER upgrade. You'll regret it. Period. It doesn't matter if it's Apple, Garmin, I've been burned.. so now I'm content with my 2017 iPad Pro 12.9 with Procreate and have full intention to use it with IOS 11 forever. Battery and Pencil might gave way but I have plan to stock the tips and what have you but that's it. I just want to draw and I'm 46 so I think I kindda know what I want out of life.. kindda :)
Your point at the end is a really good point and has always given me pause... but for the price point, I think this will work for so many people. I totally underestimated it. Good review!
Do a clean install of your iPad - I do this about once a year on all my devices. This makes all the difference my iphone SE actually runs faster than when I bought it.
I just picked one up with the pencil. i know this is over a year old but what you covered was the review and explanation I was looking for thank you. Also Apple phones, tablets are bar none the best out there. I was going to grab a Amazon fire hd 10 but the specs just are not there so I decided to wait until I could afford a newer Ipad. Im presently upgrading from a Ipad Mini 2, moved from a HTC that had one of the best pencils and I have missed having that functionality. Thanks again!
Just...Just compare it to wacom. Wich is better? Ipad : 200+ dollar refurbished as new Wacom : 500/600 dollar, or more. Same pencil lag, and gap. Yep, the ipad is smaller, but you have more space on the ipad for drawing. THX
Hey Brad! You were the one youtuber i was waiting for to review the iPad 2018. At least from an artist’s perspective. Ive heard everything I needed to from this review and I am trading in my iPad mini to help save for this ipad and an apple pencil! Thank you!!! **UPDATE** I have recently purchased this ipad with 128 gb and with the Apple Pencil and I’m in love with it. I have yet to put it down when im free. I haven’t experienced any lag in any drawing program!!! Thank you again for the review!!!
You should try running a simple benchmark and capture the results when you get the iPad new and compare the results you get after you feel it slowing down.
Your reviews are super helpful! Your the only person i've watched that made their review fun to watch and well informed. Thank you for making my decision 100x easier!
Thank you very much for your review, it was exactly what I was looking for! I'm a Cintiq user and although it's true that Wacom doesn't "downgrade" their devices like Apple seems doing with iphones and Ipads, I have to say that Cintiq are EXTREMELY fragile. I've lost my 22hd (that I was super happy of) because the inner led strip died, and I can't just see anymore what's on the screen, even if the device works! Now I've a 27inch model that is great but I'm really scared that I could repeat the experience or having other problems: I've already seen the one of a friend of mine (an illustrator) that died after less then three years, and because of the super expensive price of these devices (that are of course pointed to a prosumer audience) this is really unacceptable. So finding an interactive display for drawing that is reliable in time remains a problem :(
but you wont be able to export vidoes from it, only the native tvpaint format is supported for saving and exporting; making more like a fun app than an actual work tool
Rogers hetman I think when the iOS version comes they might improve the exporting experience probably cause Apple would want them to. At least that’s my hypothesis. Or it’s like that on Android because they know android tablets aren’t as advanced as the iPad Pro is. That’s my two cents.
I don't necessarily have a problem with slowing things down for battery consumption, but I don't understand why that can't just be an option as a part of something like "Low Power Mode," which iOS devices already have, and most (if not all) other devices have something similar. If I'm away from home or unable to charge and my battery is getting slow, give me the option to slow down my device, dim the screen, whatever, to conserve battery. But if I'm not worried about battery, let me have the option to keep running my device at full capacity.
I have the macbook mid 2012 and iPhone 6s. I love apple. Haven’t upgraded to anything yet because apple for me is very efficient. I work from home so the macbook is surprisingly still works at its best. I’m planning to buy this iPad 9.7 32GB as a birthday present this month. Thanks to this video. Very helpful. ☺️
Square Breaker I would love to. However, I have limited budget. Lols. I have a monthly car loan, credit card bills, insurance, heathcard. So having to buy this is a luxury for me. 😂 But I guess I would have to save for that pen. 😍 thank you. My birthday is on the 21st of July. So excited to get it next week. 😍
I have to say I feel much better the more I learn about the new iPad. The Pro works better for me, since I work on files for print 16x20 at 300 DPI on Affinity Photo with about a 100 layers, and yes I have reached the limits of the device a couple times. My files have cause the application to crash on occasion, until I began to hide layers. If I were to use smaller files or lower resolutions then the new iPad sounds great. Thanks for your videos Brad.
I highly recommend iOS 12, I’m drawing on a iPad mini 2 and until that update it was very challenging, the update really helped optimize the hardware of my iPad. Just some food for thought for all the people wanting to purchase a new iPad instead of updating. I used to never upgrade due to the performance you would expect from it, but apple has really seemed to fix it.
I really don’t see Apple slowing down astropad on old iPads intentionally.. if that’s happening it’ll just be a mistake or a change in how the remote screen stuff works having a negative effect.. like how Duet display just broke in the latest High Sierra. I have the original 9.7” iPad Pro from the same year as yours, with half the RAM of the 12” and it’s still running smoothly here. Likewise things like Procreate and Comic Draw have continued to be smooth and responsive.
Well... I had the 2017 10.5" ipad in my hand, and then switched to this one based on your review for Art. I was mainly going to use it as a digital sketchbook and media consumption and preferred to get the 128GB version vs the 256gb 10.5". I'll wait another year or so before deciding if an upgrade to a more "Pro" version is warranted.
So I tried a 9H glass screen protector, and the "shading" with the pencil was a bit wonky. I think the distance inherent already in the screen to digitizer gap is magnified with the thickness of a glass screen protector. So, I took it off and noticed better shading and tracking. I'm going to look at a film based protector now.
Your iPad Pro is not slowing down because of throttling. I have a launch day Air 2 that performs identically to brand new, with benchmarks that prove it. I’m not even sure they throttle iPads because iPad batteries are so large and are designed to last up to 1000 cycles (twice as many as iPhone batts). It would take at least 3 years before you saw any battery related performance hits, if they even have performance optimization’s enabled on iPad. The latest iOS 11.3 doesn’t have the performance management option in battery settings like the iPhone gained, I assume because it’s not necessary with iPads. There is no conspiracy, and it’s a shame Apple took such a PR hit over something like this when their intentions were as they stated, to PROLONG iPhones lifespan not SHORTEN it. Besides, you can always have Apple replace the battery if the battery is deteriorated. I’m pretty well entrenched in Windows PCs due to work, and PCs getting slower/more buggy as they age and fill up with bloat is RAMPANT on Windows. Windows is legendary for this. “Restore your PC” is a common suggestion whenever someone’s PC runs like shit. A Windows PC starts to perform like shit within months. Same thing on Android. Android manufacturers don’t even support their devices beyond 2 years at the most. And Apple is the one to get this ridiculous conspiracy? A 2 year old throttled iPhone probably still outperforms a 1 year old Android device. And still gets support from Apple with software updates and tech support. I just don’t understand the conspiracy. It’s because it’s Apple, the most successful company in the world that people love to hate on. Their success is an outlier because they operate different from most tech companies, and so many DESPISE that success. Being on top creates a lot of enemies.
I have to agree. I bought a pc and literally two weeks after it started running like shit. Ended up returning for a refund and haven't been back since. I've also had hell with android tablets. I had a samsung tab A 10.5 inch for a graphics tablet for about a year and one day it died on a trip because I forgot my charger and could not be charged since. I'd rather spend three times as much for a product that will work every time I plug it in, every time I turn it on with limited issue, than "save" money with android and pc products. I didn't even save money at that point with the tablet, had I just saved instead of buying two 350 dollar tablets I would have had enough for the ipad pro. I have an iphone 6, still works wonderfully. No lag. Some battery issues but that's because its an older device, so it's expected. Never had luck with android. Ever. And I'll never go back.
I’ve been binge watching these type of videos since I’ve been saving up to get my OWN iPad for art, so far I’ve gotten really good opinions about it so I think I know what to do, I found this iPad on 2019 it was only $249 on Amazon on prime so I think I’m ok! Thanks for letting me know what iPad is best to get and is really close to how much many I have, so far I have $150 and the iPad I found on amazon is $249
iOS runs nicely on only 2 GB of RAM because it's optimized so well; it's not nearly as much of a memory hog as Android. I think that at least 5 years from now, it will run fine. I still have an iPad 2 from 2011 with only 512 MB of RAM and it works pretty okay in 2019! Just had to do a system refresh. Its last software update (iOS 9) was in 2016 however, so I'm stuck with old versions of a lot of my apps; as of now, most apps in the App Store require at least iOS 10.
It’s weird that I hear you mention about the slowing down on the devices through the years. I have been using an iPad Air for nearly a year and it was used and about two years old and I have not experienced any of this lagging and etc. that you mentioned maybe it’s because I mainly use my device for illustration or maybe it’s because it just doesn’t bother me. And if that’s the case I don’t fear the iPad getting older and slowing down. And I even use a Wacom stylus.
@Brad Colbow If you update your operating system to 11.3 - which just came out a few days ago - you can disable the throttling of the processor if the battery is degraded enough. If this doesn't fix it, it may just be that the processor it has can't keep up with more updated versions of software. Hope this helps!
Try erasing and restoring your old iPad Pro. Also good to remember that two years (really three, the 1st gen iPP came out in 2015) used to be a lot of time in computer-land. Desktop/laptops have leveled off enough that that's not true but with portable devices (especially with intensive apps like Astropad) two years can make a *huge* difference. Sadly Apple doesn't allow you to revert back to earlier iOS/App versions so testing if it is the device slowing down or not keeping up with recent advances is hard to check.
Thank you SO much for this video, I was planning on buying an ipad 6 but got a bit worried when I saw the reviews comparing it very negatively to the Ipad pro
Fyi - my niece has found that the ipad18 can NOT handle files @ 6400px by 6400px in Procreate - needed to design tshirts for merch sites. And only 1-2 layers. This has been confirmed by an Apple store tech. Still need to see if Affinity Designer also has these constraints, which sure there are workarounds, but extra work..
One other thing about performance is that the local storage helps performance! If your 2015 iPad is pretty full up, it most likely would perform better if you did a factory reset. (Supposedly, anyway!) Thanks for this review!! My biggest thing was how it handled compared to the 2017, and I'm so glad to see your review and others come out to tell us it's negligible differences. :)
Brad. Thank you so much for your view of your iPad Pro from 2 years ago. This has been a concern of mine for a while now. Sure the iPhone has received the “battery health” update but the iPad has not. I would be very keen to have that update on my iPad as I’d love to turn the throttling off and just use the iPad at a speed that is serviceable. I’m sure you feel the same about your Pro. This is the one major roadblock for me using an iPad as a drawing tablet.
It’s hard to complain that “slowing down” issue. It’s lucky for 5s/6 users which still get latest update. Can you get that in other OS ecosystem? In android you can’t do that for older devices without using custom ROM. I’m an active android user too btw
I’ve always seen people say “get the Pro if you’re gonna do professional work” or “get the iPad 2018 if you’re just drawing as a hobby” but what if you’re in the middle lol? Is this adequate enough for some professional work? I like the price range and the new 2018 pros are really expensive, and the 2017 pros are still kinda expensive. I mostly draw for fun but occasionally I get commissioned for work which is why I say I’m in the middle c:
kiblaze i saw some great artists bought the 2018 ipad despite as you said, its still expensive for pro. whatever which ipad, both works well. pro is indeed aiming for pro artists like comic artists example but if you want to keep budget safe, go with ipad 2018 (or try the 1st gen pro, price bit similar too for some)
@@Roxxiane I was quoting other people, which is why I asked if it could still be used for professional work when needed. I don't do art for a living, its side work I do when inquired about it. I think the ipad+pencil could speed up my work time. Just wasn't sure if I would sacrifice much by going with the 2018 over a pro (and if I do get a pro it would be the 10.5in not the 11in 2018 pro). Thank you for the input! It definitely helps.
kiblaze get the 9.7 pro (2016) one if you feel like want the pro but dont want to overspend. one IG artist named meyoco recently said she sell her 12 inch 2nd pro & bought the 2016 9.7 pro instead. She said it run smooth without facing laggy / slow down. So maybe you could go with that. But if you have big budget, definitely the 10.5 one :D
Roxxiane I think I follow that same artist but I may have missed the notice about the change in iPads. The 10.5 in is definitely cheaper than the new 2018 iPad Pro, and I’ve seen it on sale so I may not have to break bank too much for it. But I’ll look into the 9.7 too so I have options to compare c: Again thank you for the tip.
Really thinking about buying this. I draw on my phone for the moment so I can use an upgrade . I never bought anything from apple... I do wonder does this I pad have pressure sensitivity ?
Apple Fanboy!!! I totally kid. Man I'm hooked on your videos. I've had this life long dream of learning to draw, and on another video of yours (how I found my style) you mentioned how you draw in symbols instead of realism, or something similar. That blew my mind. I was looking into buying a refurbished full spec'ed iPad Pro, but thanks to this review I'll be getting this new iPad. Thanks for everything you share and teach. You have become a role model for me.
This is exactly what I needed. All the other rich tech snobby reviewers say it’s not “powerful enough”
Other youtubers say it because their mostly audience uses Android. And they like to hear bad things about apple.
@@anshsoni2377 thats not it....they are just spoilt.. they keep using higher end stuff and even when the lower end stuff is good enough they compare it with their experience over the higher end ones and tell that these are bad
@@nilashreelenka584 Its because they dont use it. I agree with what you say and when they actually USE the device for what they need to use it for (Like Austin Evans just did with the ipad 7th gen) They realize that it actually is good. But when they just make a review and only use it for 2 seconds to watch youtube video to get footage for their review, they just complain "not enough powuUR" when they haven't even tried to use it
I mostly use Android. Not because im a fan of anyone but I dont want to spend a lot of money unescessary. I got the ipad and i'm using it as a notebook and an typing machine on the go, email and word. Using the adonit note too since I'm no artist. Couldn't be happier about my choice and no complain as far as 2 months using them.
Cause it isn't. You just needed someone to say "You can only afford this but don't be sorry this is ok too" for you. iPad Pro is definitely a much much better device.
I had slow down on my iPad Pro, I just wiped and started as a new iPad and it all started working well again.
I’ve had good results from this as well on a variety of iOS devices. 👍
Mine still works great. I even tried AstroPad and had no issues. I’m not sure what’s up with his setup.
I was just going to ask if he gave that a try.
Came to post this. I do a wipe and restart every 6 to 9 months for this reason
Do a wipe? What does this mean? (Excuse my ignorance.)
This is exactly the review I've been looking for, Thanks Brad!
Serkworks Art Labs i wanted the pro but it was to expensive and then I saw this video
Thanks
Me too
30 sec and im crying, this guy is gold
I bought a 2018 iPad yesterday and I love it. The 2018 iPad is my first digital drawing device.
What's your opinion of this ipad after a year?
What's your opinion of this ipad ayer a year?
I absolutely despise Apple as a Company. Almost all their Products have a ridiculous price tag, that their performance can't justify. They're bad and expensive. HOWEVER the iPad is the one Productline they have, where I actually say they're the best at.
BestOfGermany67 most 2018 flagship, including the pixel 2, the s9, and note9 are just as expensive, if not more expensive
agree, this is the only apple product i see myself buying
Same
Well this is wonderful. I bought a pro 3 months ago. Who knew apple would release something cheaper.
PhantomOdin130 me too bro
You're better off with the Pro. May seem like you wasted money with this cheaper option available now, but you just got a MUCH better device for not too much more cash.
If I knew, I would have bought the new one. I've got the 12.9 Pro, bought 3-4 months ago, and I use it mainly for drawing. 12.9 Pro 64g + pencil is 1000dollars (here in italy). Yes 120hz screen, 4gb ram, truetone, stereo speaker, laminated display, but for 350 I could have obtained the same result (or at least a similar one) for what concerns the main reason I bought the device.
Yeah don’t feel bad, you’ll appreciate the pro MUCH more.
There is an iPad 2017 version o.O
Just want to say that, your channel has the best reviews from an artist perspective, you get straight to the point without losing any time with those unboxing shenanigans. I get that ppl like to see the unboxing, but its largely irrelevant if you are trying to know how the device actually works.
As for the iPad slowing down, thats just normal, both software and hardware are subject to Wear and Tear ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wear_and_tear ). The software part that's easy to fix, just clean it up. The hardware though, its inevitable, and nothing you can really do about it. Another factor to consider is avoiding upgrading the OS to any much higher version to what it was originally conceived and designed to use. Obviously as technology progresses, OSes become more feature rich and require additional "power" to operate. If you try to install a modern OS in some device that is 10 years old, you will most certainly feel some loss in performance.
i will never get why people like to see the unboxing of a product.... what the point of that is just a mystery to me lol
unbox therapy
OMG thank you thank you thank you a million times thank you!! Lol you don’t even know how many videos I’ve watched just for you to answer soo flawlessly on whether or not this new ipad work well with illustration and etc!
Thanks! That's great to hear, I started doing these videos for that exact reason. Watching a bunch of videos that didn't answer the basic questions I had.
Apple made an official statement about the slowing down thing, it because lithium batteries aren't very stable over a long time, when you put a new battery in it (wich you can get done for free at an apple store) it will run like new.
Hope this helps, cheers.
Actually there is a payment of 20$ for the battery... is that what you meant?
"If your iPhone issue is covered by warranty, AppleCare+, or consumer law, we'll replace your battery at no charge" I got this from the apple website, but ive read that it costs 20 dollars somewhere else too so i dont know anymore.
Helios Well my htc one m8 that is now 3 years old just randomly shuts off and crashes because of the old battery inside and it doesnt slow down, im with apple on this either way.
so is it better to turn off the auto update then? I'm thinking to buy an iPad Pro because I cant afford Cintiq :(
Thank you my friend! regards
Newer iOS versions are written for newer hardware, and older hardware always struggles a bit more to run it. Only way to conserve launch speed is to not update.
A 2 year old iPad Pro struggling to draw a line is a freaking joke.
But is he running MacOS somehow on that iPad Pro of his? It does not look like iOS
You do realize his first-gen iPad Pro has a faster processor than the new 2018 iPad?
I'm a Windows user - not fanboy. If I could, I'd have a Win, Mac, and a Linux PC in my work room, I like the 3 OSes- so, forgive the question, but... No update means then less security ? I mean, in Windows, one can even update ONLY the security updates after the main support cycle has ended.
3polygons Yes, it means less security, but that would be the trade off.
I just realized you were drawing BOTW ^^
Link looks cool in your style
Hahaha didn't have to look too long for that! I recognized the korok lol
That's link? I thought it was Trump......
Jk
@@derekofbaltimore ha ha ha... love it
I have a 1st gen iPad Pro since release date, and i don't have any slowdown. Maybe x app runs slower or y app runs faster; but this is due te x or y app updates, not the hardware or iOs updates.
Procreate runs fast as always. Same with Astropad / Astropad Studio, even some 3D apps i use occasionally.
I have other kind of problems (like gestures don't work from time to time), but not slowdowns.
Omg I am late but I find that sometime the palm rejection doesn’t work and I need my pencil to be atleast 10 percent for it to fully work but have you noticed anythins
Thanks for the comment Brad! Your review is better lol, great presentation and in depth! I need to try harder 😝
James Julier Art I like your review better 👍🏼
always an awesome review
First time I have ever heard someone say that an apple product is bang for buck
Hi Brad!
(This is about the 1st gen ipad stuff you mentioned at the end)
I have the 1st generation ipad pro as well (via your reviews recommending it), and I haven't been having any issues with the ipad slowing down. In fact, after watching, I connect to astropad and gave it a go with as similar a test I could manage as the one you demonstrated. I had absolutely no slowdown whatsoever. The only difference I could see is that I'm using the Studio version of Astropad, rather than yours (which I assume is Astropad Standard). I don't know if this is based on when you got your ipad, when I got mine (some kind of revision on mine, since I didn't get it day one?) or Astropad is slowing down, as opposed to studio, or even that I might not have used my ipad nearly as much as you have, and as such my battery is more "fresh" (I don't know how much you utilize your ipad compared to me, so I'm a bit in the dark on that one)
I just wanted to bring that to your attention, since there may be something other than Apple at play here.
Whether or not that is the case, Love the review! Always happy to see you in my subscription box! Keep up the awesome videos!
That hardware slowdown is exactly why I left Apple products. Every iPhone, iPad, and Mac I had slowed down greatly over just a few years. I assumed the way they attached security updates to the OS updates that also included new features was the only reason things were slowing down. Once I saw they actually WERE slowing devices down, I was out.
I have the iPad 6, I don’t use the Apple Pencil, I use a MoKo stylus without pressure sensitivity or tilt or Bluetooth, so in about a little bit, I’m probably going to change to the Apple Pencil, but the iPad 6 is an amaaaaazing iPad, it handles drawings well, it handles big files well, it has a 1080p screen, your asking for the best budget iPad in the world, including the Apple Pencil or a bamboo stylus that will be an additional $100, so about $350 if you get the iPad 32 gigs with the Apple Pencil
And yes, i liked my own comment, SO SUE ME!
Nice. I like the new setup. This channel seems to be growing very well!
Apple devices had always been slowing down after 2 year even before this slow down thing appeared. Older processors just cannot keep up with the newer, more power hungry software. Also this intentional slowdown just does not help Apple devices as well.
But his first-gen iPad Pro has a faster processor than the new 2018 iPad, so how does this make any sense?
aeriose First gen iPad pro has an A9X processor whereas this new iPad has A10 processor. A10 chip is marginally faster in single and multicore performance. In addition to that as I said older hardware is only one reason. Other reason is probably far more important which is intentional slowdown by Apple themselves. First gen iPad pro comes from the era of this issue. Same era as iPhone 6s so it is probably slowed down by Apple.
Don't buy the first gens. Buy the 2nd one or the 3rd one. Because the 1st gens makes your device slower after many updates.
After two years, this is still as good (even better in some ways) as the first day. Great review!
how many layers can you use? I'm really considering buying my first ipad
@@beacarbo6344 he's not going to answer because he was advertising or paid to say ipad6 is great he probably doesn't even use it
as for the layers they are 4-10 depending on the resloution
oh and ipad6 after 2 years will get laggier somewhat not very much but it gets a bit slower so try to get the ipad7 or galaxy tab s6 ( about 600$ including the pen )
@@alis1079 Thanks for your answer. I bought yesterday ipad7
@@beacarbo6344 congratulations ☺ it's great device , 3 gigs of ram is amazing .
Make sure you get procreate and infinite painter + sketchbook apps if you like to draw they are all great
Good luck 😄
I was lucky and got the iPad 2018 (32GB) as a gift. It's my very first venture into drawing using a tablet and I have to say it's been a wonderful experience. I tried tablets for drawing several years ago and was not impressed but how things have improved! The iPad 2018 really does feel like a credible alternative to the good old A5 paper sketchbook, and I don't say that lightly. After a hiatus from drawing for several years (after burn out) I am now doodling every day because of the iPad. Thanks for the video, Brad.
Thanks! I've decided now to save up a bit and go for the surface pro 2017
Now I'm selling it for an iPad pro ;-;
4:54 Says people will accuse of him being an Apple fanboy.
9:54 Admits that he is an Apple Fanboy.
Insert: Pikachu face.
9:54 he says that as an irony of the negative comments he just made. If he's an apple fanboy, why would he say bad stuff about apple...something like that
I have a first generation small iPad Pro and I probably wouldn’t e able to tell the difference when using the new one. I’ve only had it for a year and a half, and that is kind of annoying. I don’t expect to have an IPad for ever, like my 8 year old cintiq, but 18 months or two years is not worth what I spend. Specially since (best case scenario) I still have do do a final edit in photoshop of any piece done there before I send it to the client.
Respect for mentioning Apple slowing down their devices. I have not seen any other reviewer mentioning this.
Hey guys.i have this ipad and i’ve had it since release date(2 years ago) and i really recommend it
I think it only lagged once or twice in the last two years and it’s still really fast.
What kind of stylus do you use?
What about Now?
Also to add that cintuq is mostly a screen. The iPad has other use cases which gives it more wear. Another note is that the 12.9 pro is nicer to do split screen. So if you’re using reference photos it’s pretty nice.
Hi Brad....Has the ipad 2018 slowed down?
No, I have one and it’s still as fast as it was before! :)
If it does slow down then you just have to replace the battery 🔋
You can change it for free at an Apple store (*^ω^*)
@@fizzah5158
Recently Apple announced they allow free trade of battery. Most people are dumb enough to just buy a new product so it didn't cost them much 😁.
The only review of this I was waiting for if I’m honest. Great work as ever.
still using this ipad! great cheap ipad for drawing! Going to upgrade to the Ipad pro m1 soon!
This is exactly what I was looking for. All I wanted to know is if 1.the air-gap in the screen makes a difference and 2. if the refresh rate matters: and you answered that with confidence and conviction - it does not!
I wish someone would compare the new Surface though! (Given you can run full steam photoshop)
Great review, thanks, I was wondering about those refresh rates. Now it seems the “regular” 2018 it is, for me.
Have you installed the latest iOS 11 update? 11.3 is supposed to address some performance issues. If that doesn’t help, well...conspiracy and stuff.
Thanks Brad! I had really been considering if I should replace my iPad Air 2 with the new iPad 6th gen or a Pro with all the drawing I'm going to do for my next project, and you definitely solved that for me. I can get 2 of these for the EXACT price of one iPad pro - and with the battery degradation you talk about - that would be the smarter choice. I didn't even consider it, despite the fact that the battery in my iPad Air 2 is basically dead. If I charge it fully and just lay it idly on a table for 3 days, it dies and needs a new charge. The truetone display is not really a selling point on a graphics device if you ask me. I want to see the real colors. So the only thing left is the space between the digitizer and the screen - and I will just take your word that it is not super noticeable when you use it.
I bring good news from the future (nov2021), this iPad still works perfectly!!!! I bought my iPad 6th gen with 128gb of memory based on Brad’s review (and Teoh’s), and I can say it was an amazing buy. The only problem I have had is the layers limitation, other than that, it is still perfect.
This video convinced me to finally take the plunge on a new iPad (just picked mine up yesterday!). I've been eyeing down the Pro for a couple years, but it's so expensive. Your overview answered all of the questions I had about its performance and I'm very grateful! Anyway, thank you. I haven't drawn much in years, so hopefully this will be a nice motivation to get back into it.
Have you tried to fresh install your iPad? Might just have some system crud on it.
I might give that a shot or try a couple different things and make a little video about it down the road.
Brad Colbow Agreeing with Min Lungelow’s comment - a reset can work wonders, or you could even try deleting and reinstalling slightly fewer and fresh copies of apps if you want to give that a shot first. I’ve seen just deleting some apps work wonders for an iPad 2 that still runs well that a family member of mine uses daily (7 years after they bought it).
Worst case I’ve had was an iPad Air that had awful backup issues, where it was so laggy on the backup, it’d take 12 hours to do it. On top of that, it also suffered massively on its first update to iOS 11, crashing and slowing to the point of being unusable. In that case, I manually backed up all my important files to my computer and icloud, wiped the device, deleted the old iTunes backups, and then set the iPad up again as a brand new device and reloaded my files. Since then, it’s been clipping along at a nice happy pace, rarely crashes (if ever), and backups have been faster than this device has ever seen. It even worked at least decently with Astropad for the first time in its life (although, to be fair, I’d also deleted and reinstalled Astropad on my computer too, and I think they’d made also some improvements since I had tried the program last, so that may have contributed as well).
I hope you’re able to get your iPad running nice and fast again. Best wishes! 👍
Brad Colbow or u can try to change ur battery
As apple says old batteries is the reason why we slow down old devotion
Exactly what I've been waiting for! I've been trying to decide between the 10.5 pro and the 2018 iPad. I can afford the Pro but I could save the $700 and get the 2018. Hmm I'm not sure what to do now 😫 Any opinions?
- awozzie - me too xD
Same here
If you plan to work with it...go for the pro, if you ilustrate for hobbie go for the 2018 ver. Thats my opinión
Same lol I will try the new iPad in an Apple Store to really decide :)
Woodworking Fangirl I agree with you, but for the price of the engine i would build a mich better pc, of course the mobility would be gone
Thank you for this video. Now I feel more confident about my 2018 ipad
Different is with Display pen it doesn’t process program on its own so it won’t slow down that easy. With ipad it processing everything on it so the longer you use, the more cache or files running around and that’s slowing down the device. It’s something we all have to deal with
I had an ipad mini 1st generation up to this day still working only i drop it and broke the glass ... i also have samsung galaxy tab A with spen for 4 years now and i still love it i use it whole day every day for taking notes , watching youtube and some other things i drop them on the ground 2x and not a scratch, unlike my ipad mini drop once glass broken immidiately...
I've been debating Ipad for about a year, being a Graphic Design student. Along with being a student also comes the budget of a student. For me, it was cheap or none. I mustered enough for a wacom intuos pro, but i now want to get something i can draw directly on. This review convinced me that I should get the new IPad 2018, though i would love a pro, this will definitely do the job. Thank you for helping me in my decision with a very entertaining video!
.....2 years later..... guess what, my 2018 IPad 6thgen and my Apple Pencil are still running smoothly.
Really nice review! Went from iPad 2 to th 6th, now it’s a new world. Cheers!
Cheers 🥰🍻
The base Ipad, was outstanding good value if you look at how potent the hardware, actually are versus price...
Im not an Apple guy, but needed a device with Lightning port for an Infrared camera and purchse first one in early 2018, and was so impressed that I also picked one up for my mom.
after all getting 3600&6100 in single/multicore and 13.500 in Compute in Geek4 was impressive scores for a budget device to like 300 USD and even with high-end Android devices in early 2018 it was difficult to reach 13.500 on the graphic SoC chip.
and likely also the reason why 2019 are getting the same SoC as the A10 did perform above and beyond what you could expect at that price.
I got the iPad immediately after it came out and the primary use was for sketching with the Apple pen. It's been an awesome experience. I couldn't justify buying a full fledged iPad Pro (too expensive, same for a Cintiq), so this was my only option for getting something that is better than a graphic tablet where you draw in one place (plastic tablet) and look at your art in another place (screen) - ugh. The iPad with the Apple Pen has been one of the best purchases I made in a long time.
i got this as my graduation gift and its amazing and u helped me make my decision no regrets, thank u, u saved me almost $500 :))))))))
Heard if you erase the ipad pro and start fresh, which is what an apple tech is saying should be done each year anyway, it should take care of your slow down issue. 'reimagine' them?
Got myself the iPad 2018 and a pencil for $345 here in India. I went for the combo after watching your video, Brad. Thank you for doing this. Made my buy all the more easier since I was considering the iPad Pro. But, I guess we will just have to wait and see what happens in the iPad Pro event next week and see if I should buy that for my work side of things.
Would you consider making a Udemy class for drawing in Affinity Photo? I can’t figure out settings and optimization for basic illustrations :(
Lilly Aguilar I couldn't figure that out for drawing at all! I tried it a few times and I hate it and feel like I'm the only one. Must be something I'm doing wrong. I hope your comment gets more traction because I would love to love Affinity Photo but, right now, I just can't.
Meiya007 it feels like autocorrect, but for drawing... like I’m trying to sketch and it’ll snap to points and correct lines after I made them... I just want to sketch! I don’t know how to mess with settings just to get it to draw with... (cry forever...)
Your best option is draw in procreate, I've tried affinity photo for that and my ipad is and pencil are not reacting well to it. The lag is horrible but whereas photo editing works flawlessly.
As far as I know you can diminish the stabilizer/smoothing strength (in every app ! ). I've drawn both in Affinity Photo and Designer, no serious problems, but other than that is like any other application for desktop. If you are on desktop, for *image editing* (aka photo retouch, etc) the best route is Affinity *Photo* , or if needing less features and kind of prefer the type of UI, PaintShop Pro . For professionals, IMO is better Affinity Photo, as for drawing feel, for now is better PSP .The company behind Affinity, Serif, plans to rebuild the drawing system, I think. Once that arrives, my advice would be A. Photo all the way in any case, just like Photoshop has its advantages on keeping all tasks in the same app.
But totally, for actually just painting, my hugest recommendation is going for Krita. Not just because it is FREE! . But because of QUALITY and ease of use. Get the version 4 at krita.org . Is freakin' fully free. And if want the most amazing ever tool for comic drawing ink line art (krita gives IMO much more variety in PAINTING tools), give it a try to the commercial application called Clip Studio Paint (before known as Manga Studio, and I believe yet so called inside Japan) . It totally rocks. And indeed, has good enough painting tools and features - like for digital painting- even if krita seems to have more variety in that department. I indeed often recommend using both. And I am a Photoshop expert, and pro in many other painting apps. I know what I'm speaking about. I would NOT go for CSP in iPad, as I think they made it subscription based, and I hate that. In desktop is not. Is just a cheap purchase. If you are in the iPad, I'd go with Procreate, personally. As mentioned by some, above. And surely Sketchbook.Both. First one as is quite a complete illustration application with enough features and case scenarios for actual work. Sketchbook as... dunno, I always loved how good is that one for actually drawing, fresh lines, etc. Look, giving a try to several tools is a cool thing to do, even to acquire several. Along complex projects, you step with issues that are dealt better in some software tool than another, and the other way round. The more, the merrier, after all, all these are DIRTY cheap, at least if your personal pocket allows you already to pay for an internet connection.... ;)
And if really not even small cash available, GO FOR KRITA. That thing is a jewel, and it is free.
Oh... and KRITA does have an entire module to do certain 2D animation, with onion skin feature and all that. Kind of I'm more just into digital painting, and drawing. But is quite a nice addon to be able to do some animation inside Krita, too !
I just wanted to say that my Ipad pro gen1 has been used like crazy everyday since I bought it and it is still doing well.
best video I found on the Internet about the new iPad
I don’t update my iPad or Apple products. Apple bricked my iPhone 4s when I update from iOS 6 to iOS 9. I delayed it for as long as I could. Then apps wouldn’t let me use the app, until I updated. Big mistake. Don’t trust Apple so much. iPad Pro I have is great, but I plucking know they are going to mess with it.
The slowdown issue also happens on my old Samsung phones. It's either planned obsolescence or new apps are just no longer optimized for older chips.
Thank you so much for always posting these tablet review videos! When I'm considering buying a tablet, you're always the first person I search for because your reviews are always so thorough and I think you're really trustworthy in your reviews. :) I know this video is a little bit older, but I hope that you see this comment nonetheless. Thanks again!!
People are complaining about the screen and the size of the screen. Man, I could care less. I came from an Ipadmini2 drawing with the wacom stylus (Which was pretty good.) This is such a huge step up for me and its cheaper than the pro! I picked it up instanty!!
Just got one of these iPads a couple days ago, specifically for illustrating and sketching, and I'm singing it's praises. I can hardly tell a difference between this and the iPad Pros... and it's half the cost.
I've come to this: never, ever, EVER, upgrade the software. If you're not happy with the way they are, don't buy it yet. If you do, NEVER upgrade. You'll regret it. Period.
It doesn't matter if it's Apple, Garmin, I've been burned.. so now I'm content with my 2017 iPad Pro 12.9 with Procreate and have full intention to use it with IOS 11 forever. Battery and Pencil might gave way but I have plan to stock the tips and what have you but that's it.
I just want to draw and I'm 46 so I think I kindda know what I want out of life.. kindda :)
XE Villarta The iOS 12 update will have new features... What are you talking about?
Using iOS 12 beta on my 2017 ipad and iPhone 8+ and its faster than iOS 11.4, on both devices (especially the ipad)
iOS upgrades usually include security patches which can be beneficial...
Honestly you should just upgrade to iOS 12 it’s sped all of my apple products up and my wife’s apples products as well, it’s an amazing update
Your point at the end is a really good point and has always given me pause... but for the price point, I think this will work for so many people. I totally underestimated it. Good review!
Do a clean install of your iPad - I do this about once a year on all my devices. This makes all the difference my iphone SE actually runs faster than when I bought it.
I just picked one up with the pencil. i know this is over a year old but what you covered was the review and explanation I was looking for thank you. Also Apple phones, tablets are bar none the best out there. I was going to grab a Amazon fire hd 10 but the specs just are not there so I decided to wait until I could afford a newer Ipad. Im presently upgrading from a Ipad Mini 2, moved from a HTC that had one of the best pencils and I have missed having that functionality. Thanks again!
Just...Just compare it to wacom. Wich is better?
Ipad : 200+ dollar refurbished as new
Wacom : 500/600 dollar, or more.
Same pencil lag, and gap.
Yep, the ipad is smaller, but you have more space on the ipad for drawing.
THX
Hello, would you do a comparison between samsung galaxy book vs surface pro in the future?
This is the review I was needing. Ever other review has made a big deal about the air gap, I trust your opinion the parallax isn't too noticable
ios 12 is now turned the old phones to normal speed. i use the beta 3 on iphone 6 . it works as fast as i purchased it back in the days as brand new.
Hey Brad! You were the one youtuber i was waiting for to review the iPad 2018. At least from an artist’s perspective. Ive heard everything I needed to from this review and I am trading in my iPad mini to help save for this ipad and an apple pencil! Thank you!!!
**UPDATE** I have recently purchased this ipad with 128 gb and with the Apple Pencil and I’m in love with it. I have yet to put it down when im free. I haven’t experienced any lag in any drawing program!!! Thank you again for the review!!!
You should try running a simple benchmark and capture the results when you get the iPad new and compare the results you get after you feel it slowing down.
Your reviews are super helpful! Your the only person i've watched that made their review fun to watch and well informed. Thank you for making my decision 100x easier!
The 'older devices are slower' also happens with Andriod so sadly enough its like choosing witch 'evil' you'd like to undergo.
Thank you very much for your review, it was exactly what I was looking for! I'm a Cintiq user and although it's true that Wacom doesn't "downgrade" their devices like Apple seems doing with iphones and Ipads, I have to say that Cintiq are EXTREMELY fragile. I've lost my 22hd (that I was super happy of) because the inner led strip died, and I can't just see anymore what's on the screen, even if the device works! Now I've a 27inch model that is great but I'm really scared that I could repeat the experience or having other problems: I've already seen the one of a friend of mine (an illustrator) that died after less then three years, and because of the super expensive price of these devices (that are of course pointed to a prosumer audience) this is really unacceptable.
So finding an interactive display for drawing that is reliable in time remains a problem :(
Tvpaint is on Android.
But even tvpaint is coming to iOS though which is GREAT!
but you wont be able to export vidoes from it, only the native tvpaint format is supported for saving and exporting; making more like a fun app than an actual work tool
That is awesome! Is it a fully fledged version of TV Paint?
@Rogers hetman - is there no screen capture software on Android to capture the video you make?
Rogers hetman I think when the iOS version comes they might improve the exporting experience probably cause Apple would want them to.
At least that’s my hypothesis.
Or it’s like that on Android because they know android tablets aren’t as advanced as the iPad Pro is.
That’s my two cents.
Apollo Justice I don’t know since I don’t have an android tablet
I don't necessarily have a problem with slowing things down for battery consumption, but I don't understand why that can't just be an option as a part of something like "Low Power Mode," which iOS devices already have, and most (if not all) other devices have something similar. If I'm away from home or unable to charge and my battery is getting slow, give me the option to slow down my device, dim the screen, whatever, to conserve battery. But if I'm not worried about battery, let me have the option to keep running my device at full capacity.
I have the macbook mid 2012 and iPhone 6s. I love apple. Haven’t upgraded to anything yet because apple for me is very efficient. I work from home so the macbook is surprisingly still works at its best. I’m planning to buy this iPad 9.7 32GB as a birthday present this month. Thanks to this video. Very helpful. ☺️
Square Breaker I would love to. However, I have limited budget. Lols. I have a monthly car loan, credit card bills, insurance, heathcard. So having to buy this is a luxury for me. 😂 But I guess I would have to save for that pen. 😍 thank you. My birthday is on the 21st of July. So excited to get it next week. 😍
Square Breaker I think that would work. Thanks for that. This is just making me more excited. 😂
I have to say I feel much better the more I learn about the new iPad. The Pro works better for me, since I work on files for print 16x20 at 300 DPI on Affinity Photo with about a 100 layers, and yes I have reached the limits of the device a couple times. My files have cause the application to crash on occasion, until I began to hide layers. If I were to use smaller files or lower resolutions then the new iPad sounds great.
Thanks for your videos Brad.
I highly recommend iOS 12, I’m drawing on a iPad mini 2 and until that update it was very challenging, the update really helped optimize the hardware of my iPad. Just some food for thought for all the people wanting to purchase a new iPad instead of updating. I used to never upgrade due to the performance you would expect from it, but apple has really seemed to fix it.
Seriously! I still stand by it
I really don’t see Apple slowing down astropad on old iPads intentionally.. if that’s happening it’ll just be a mistake or a change in how the remote screen stuff works having a negative effect.. like how Duet display just broke in the latest High Sierra. I have the original 9.7” iPad Pro from the same year as yours, with half the RAM of the 12” and it’s still running smoothly here. Likewise things like Procreate and Comic Draw have continued to be smooth and responsive.
Just as I was about to upgrade to a pro! This device is an instant buy for me. Thanks for the review Brad. It confirmed my decision.
Well... I had the 2017 10.5" ipad in my hand, and then switched to this one based on your review for Art. I was mainly going to use it as a digital sketchbook and media consumption and preferred to get the 128GB version vs the 256gb 10.5". I'll wait another year or so before deciding if an upgrade to a more "Pro" version is warranted.
So I tried a 9H glass screen protector, and the "shading" with the pencil was a bit wonky. I think the distance inherent already in the screen to digitizer gap is magnified with the thickness of a glass screen protector. So, I took it off and noticed better shading and tracking. I'm going to look at a film based protector now.
This is exactly what I needed to see. It in action.
Being on a budget I was going back and forth, and I guess the "new" iPad is the winner
Finnaly, someone made it! And is that botw art you're drawing? With a korok thing and link?
Your iPad Pro is not slowing down because of throttling. I have a launch day Air 2 that performs identically to brand new, with benchmarks that prove it. I’m not even sure they throttle iPads because iPad batteries are so large and are designed to last up to 1000 cycles (twice as many as iPhone batts). It would take at least 3 years before you saw any battery related performance hits, if they even have performance optimization’s enabled on iPad. The latest iOS 11.3 doesn’t have the performance management option in battery settings like the iPhone gained, I assume because it’s not necessary with iPads. There is no conspiracy, and it’s a shame Apple took such a PR hit over something like this when their intentions were as they stated, to PROLONG iPhones lifespan not SHORTEN it. Besides, you can always have Apple replace the battery if the battery is deteriorated.
I’m pretty well entrenched in Windows PCs due to work, and PCs getting slower/more buggy as they age and fill up with bloat is RAMPANT on Windows. Windows is legendary for this. “Restore your PC” is a common suggestion whenever someone’s PC runs like shit. A Windows PC starts to perform like shit within months. Same thing on Android. Android manufacturers don’t even support their devices beyond 2 years at the most. And Apple is the one to get this ridiculous conspiracy? A 2 year old throttled iPhone probably still outperforms a 1 year old Android device. And still gets support from Apple with software updates and tech support. I just don’t understand the conspiracy. It’s because it’s Apple, the most successful company in the world that people love to hate on. Their success is an outlier because they operate different from most tech companies, and so many DESPISE that success. Being on top creates a lot of enemies.
I have to agree. I bought a pc and literally two weeks after it started running like shit. Ended up returning for a refund and haven't been back since. I've also had hell with android tablets. I had a samsung tab A 10.5 inch for a graphics tablet for about a year and one day it died on a trip because I forgot my charger and could not be charged since. I'd rather spend three times as much for a product that will work every time I plug it in, every time I turn it on with limited issue, than "save" money with android and pc products. I didn't even save money at that point with the tablet, had I just saved instead of buying two 350 dollar tablets I would have had enough for the ipad pro. I have an iphone 6, still works wonderfully. No lag. Some battery issues but that's because its an older device, so it's expected. Never had luck with android. Ever. And I'll never go back.
I’ve been binge watching these type of videos since I’ve been saving up to get my OWN iPad for art, so far I’ve gotten really good opinions about it so I think I know what to do, I found this iPad on 2019 it was only $249 on Amazon on prime so I think I’m ok! Thanks for letting me know what iPad is best to get and is really close to how much many I have, so far I have $150 and the iPad I found on amazon is $249
good luck
iOS runs nicely on only 2 GB of RAM because it's optimized so well; it's not nearly as much of a memory hog as Android. I think that at least 5 years from now, it will run fine. I still have an iPad 2 from 2011 with only 512 MB of RAM and it works pretty okay in 2019! Just had to do a system refresh. Its last software update (iOS 9) was in 2016 however, so I'm stuck with old versions of a lot of my apps; as of now, most apps in the App Store require at least iOS 10.
It’s weird that I hear you mention about the slowing down on the devices through the years. I have been using an iPad Air for nearly a year and it was used and about two years old and I have not experienced any of this lagging and etc. that you mentioned maybe it’s because I mainly use my device for illustration or maybe it’s because it just doesn’t bother me. And if that’s the case I don’t fear the iPad getting older and slowing down. And I even use a Wacom stylus.
@Brad Colbow If you update your operating system to 11.3 - which just came out a few days ago - you can disable the throttling of the processor if the battery is degraded enough. If this doesn't fix it, it may just be that the processor it has can't keep up with more updated versions of software. Hope this helps!
Try erasing and restoring your old iPad Pro. Also good to remember that two years (really three, the 1st gen iPP came out in 2015) used to be a lot of time in computer-land. Desktop/laptops have leveled off enough that that's not true but with portable devices (especially with intensive apps like Astropad) two years can make a *huge* difference. Sadly Apple doesn't allow you to revert back to earlier iOS/App versions so testing if it is the device slowing down or not keeping up with recent advances is hard to check.
Thank you sooo much for this review! I guess I'll go for a screan tablet because I'm afraid of the device's slowing down over the time
Thank you SO much for this video, I was planning on buying an ipad 6 but got a bit worried when I saw the reviews comparing it very negatively to the Ipad pro
I am in love with my new iPad 6th gen! And I only spent $330 for the 128gb model!
Hello,,
Is it good for vectoring?
I'm little bit confuse which one im gonna buy,, the ipad 6 128gb or ipad mini 5 64gb..
Thank you..
hey, nice video! that apple slowdown can be actually turned off, if you didn't update your ios you can fiddle with filza and it actually works
Fyi - my niece has found that the ipad18 can NOT handle files @ 6400px by 6400px in Procreate - needed to design tshirts for merch sites. And only 1-2 layers. This has been confirmed by an Apple store tech. Still need to see if Affinity Designer also has these constraints, which sure there are workarounds, but extra work..
One other thing about performance is that the local storage helps performance! If your 2015 iPad is pretty full up, it most likely would perform better if you did a factory reset. (Supposedly, anyway!)
Thanks for this review!! My biggest thing was how it handled compared to the 2017, and I'm so glad to see your review and others come out to tell us it's negligible differences. :)
Brad. Thank you so much for your view of your iPad Pro from 2 years ago. This has been a concern of mine for a while now.
Sure the iPhone has received the “battery health” update but the iPad has not. I would be very keen to have that update on my iPad as I’d love to turn the throttling off and just use the iPad at a speed that is serviceable. I’m sure you feel the same about your Pro.
This is the one major roadblock for me using an iPad as a drawing tablet.
I'm finding this video 4 years after it was released (really enjoying your content, btw) and I'm curious if the iPad slowed down?
It still works well. If you don’t use huge canvases, it also works well with procreate. An A4 gives you 19 layers.
Take into account the ram Brad
It’s hard to complain that “slowing down” issue. It’s lucky for 5s/6 users which still get latest update. Can you get that in other OS ecosystem? In android you can’t do that for older devices without using custom ROM. I’m an active android user too btw
I’ve always seen people say “get the
Pro if you’re gonna do professional work” or “get the iPad 2018 if you’re just drawing as a hobby” but what if you’re in the middle lol? Is this adequate enough for some professional work? I like the price range and the new 2018 pros are really expensive, and the 2017 pros are still kinda expensive. I mostly draw for fun but occasionally I get commissioned for work which is why I say I’m in the middle c:
kiblaze i saw some great artists bought the 2018 ipad despite as you said, its still expensive for pro. whatever which ipad, both works well. pro is indeed aiming for pro artists like comic artists example but if you want to keep budget safe, go with ipad 2018 (or try the 1st gen pro, price bit similar too for some)
@@Roxxiane I was quoting other people, which is why I asked if it could still be used for professional work when needed. I don't do art for a living, its side work I do when inquired about it. I think the ipad+pencil could speed up my work time. Just wasn't sure if I would sacrifice much by going with the 2018 over a pro (and if I do get a pro it would be the 10.5in not the 11in 2018 pro). Thank you for the input! It definitely helps.
kiblaze get the 9.7 pro (2016) one if you feel like want the pro but dont want to overspend. one IG artist named meyoco recently said she sell her 12 inch 2nd pro & bought the 2016 9.7 pro instead. She said it run smooth without facing laggy / slow down. So maybe you could go with that. But if you have big budget, definitely the 10.5 one :D
Roxxiane I think I follow that same artist but I may have missed the notice about the change in iPads. The 10.5 in is definitely cheaper than the new 2018 iPad Pro, and I’ve seen it on sale so I may not have to break bank too much for it. But I’ll look into the 9.7 too so I have options to compare c: Again thank you for the tip.
Just got the IPad 2018 today and I love it.
Really thinking about buying this. I draw on my phone for the moment so I can use an upgrade . I never bought anything from apple... I do wonder does this I pad have pressure sensitivity ?
F.starryart yes it does I’ve had this for a week and I use ibisPaint x
F.starryart I also really suggest ibisPaint x
Apple Fanboy!!! I totally kid. Man I'm hooked on your videos. I've had this life long dream of learning to draw, and on another video of yours (how I found my style) you mentioned how you draw in symbols instead of realism, or something similar. That blew my mind. I was looking into buying a refurbished full spec'ed iPad Pro, but thanks to this review I'll be getting this new iPad. Thanks for everything you share and teach. You have become a role model for me.