@cameron can we please remove Mike from this podcast? He really is clueless about watches and makes me NOT want to watch anymore of Watch&listen podcasts. Annoyingly I've had to unsubscribe from this channel, since unlike Matt, Mike brings a distasteful mindset to the podcast
I miss Matt so much. I wouldn't be bothering with this podcast anymore if Cameron wasn't involved. He's the best. Great guest this time around too. I'm a big fan of Nathan's.
Exactly my thought, how can you not know about spring drive. Kind of pissing me off watching him talk. Also, can't trust any "watch enthusiast" who likes Hublot
isn't that not an enthusiast though? We all buy watches for different reasons. liking a brand for the brand is just as valid as liking a brand for the technology. It's not like any of these watches are inaccurate enough for it to matter. If your life really depends on accuracy and durability we'd all just wear g-shocks. Me? My interest is in the aesthetics and the history. I have a particular aesthetic preference, but I also like watches that "mattered". So I have some silly color Skagens that I love for that bold minimalist look, but I also have a Nivada Antarctic (1st gen), because the history of the 1957 geophysical year and operation deep freeze is just super cool to me. Next on the list is an A404, because Everest. And because 1016s are expensive AF. My preference for the first (looks) isn't any less valid than my geeking over the sun browned radium dials of the second. they're valid preferences with valid reasons. Having more esoteric preferences doesn't make them more valuable.
Thank you, Cameron, for calling Mike out for the silly bias he's adopted towards the brand with the crown. That combined with his cringeworthy comments about Grand Seiko still being just a Seiko (which really makes me wonder about his opinion of Credor), it would be unbearable if not for your pointed responses. This is how I'm going to enjoy the show on from now on, listening to you constantly correct Mike's ignorant statements.
Boy, these have unfortunately been getting harder to watch as the chemistry is just not there anymore (lets face it the Zoom format certainly doesn't help either)....Time to take a pause to prepare better and retool the show........Call me when Matt comes back and Cameron is a tad bit less salty about being there.
"When I'm buying a watch for $11,000 I want it to be a little bit different". Translation, "I want people to notice my Rolex and that I paid a lot of money for it"
If you disregard value retention, there are a lot of brands which are just as great as Rolex. I've gone from three Rolex in my collection to just one and couldn't be happier with those decisions.
The Spring Drive movement is a marvel of engineering. I'm a watchmaker. Ask me about how the spring drive works I'll give you a very excited 25 minutes of fun and interesting facts. Your trusted watchmaker was afraid to speak about it.....(from lack of knowledge?) And then he says it has a hairspring???? Time for a real watchmaker please
OK, I'm a little confused on the GMT section where Cameron mentions changing the main time zone to be your "current" time zone with the GMT time zone set to your "home" time zone. I thought the traditional method was that the main display was always on "home" with the GMT hand set to GMT, then you rotate the bezel to your current time zone offset from GMT. This way you never have to adjust anything, just rotate the bezel as needed. Also, this would seem to negate the advantage to a "true" GMT.
First. Great discussion. I agree with those who do not like the Daytona dial...I have a vintage Navitimer and it still is more legible. My Seamaster 321 Chrono is very very legible and much more reas. priced. I agree with Cameron re the look of the Breguet, but have tried one on and it is too thick for me. I would not wear a Hublot even if it was $500. The Zenith El Primero is much more wearable and something like 12mm thick.
This was really educational, enjoyed it. Try to remember to slow down the screen scrolling and eliminate unnecessary scrolling. We’re not seeing things for as long as you think. Dizzy!
@cameron can we please remove Mike from this podcast? He really is clueless about watches and makes me NOT want to watch anymore of Watch&listen podcasts. Annoyingly I've had to unsubscribe from this channel, since unlike Matt, Mike brings a distasteful mindset to the podcast
Top right guy need to be removed, he knows nothing about watches. The two other dudes, especially Cameron is great.
I miss Matt so much. I wouldn't be bothering with this podcast anymore if Cameron wasn't involved. He's the best. Great guest this time around too. I'm a big fan of Nathan's.
Top right guy is obviously not a watch enthusiast, but rather a watch fan boy. Good video! keep them coming :)
Exactly my thought, how can you not know about spring drive. Kind of pissing me off watching him talk. Also, can't trust any "watch enthusiast" who likes Hublot
@@uxblueprint Yah Matt needs to come back to host.
isn't that not an enthusiast though? We all buy watches for different reasons. liking a brand for the brand is just as valid as liking a brand for the technology. It's not like any of these watches are inaccurate enough for it to matter. If your life really depends on accuracy and durability we'd all just wear g-shocks. Me? My interest is in the aesthetics and the history. I have a particular aesthetic preference, but I also like watches that "mattered". So I have some silly color Skagens that I love for that bold minimalist look, but I also have a Nivada Antarctic (1st gen), because the history of the 1957 geophysical year and operation deep freeze is just super cool to me. Next on the list is an A404, because Everest. And because 1016s are expensive AF.
My preference for the first (looks) isn't any less valid than my geeking over the sun browned radium dials of the second. they're valid preferences with valid reasons. Having more esoteric preferences doesn't make them more valuable.
Haven't watched this since Matt was hosting, but glad Cam is confidently throwing out more opinions, even more would be fine : )
Thank you, Cameron, for calling Mike out for the silly bias he's adopted towards the brand with the crown. That combined with his cringeworthy comments about Grand Seiko still being just a Seiko (which really makes me wonder about his opinion of Credor), it would be unbearable if not for your pointed responses. This is how I'm going to enjoy the show on from now on, listening to you constantly correct Mike's ignorant statements.
Mike needs to go, this was cringy to watch.
Grand Seiko makes a true GMT with a jumping hour hand
Boy, these have unfortunately been getting harder to watch as the chemistry is just not there anymore (lets face it the Zoom format certainly doesn't help either)....Time to take a pause to prepare better and retool the show........Call me when Matt comes back and Cameron is a tad bit less salty about being there.
I'd be pretty salty if the world economy took a dump and I have to pump up somebody else's stuff.
He's doing pretty well, everything considered.
What are you talking about. He's the only one with any true knowledge
Looking with the retrospecoscope, looks like you nailed it.
Rolex has the display back cases you OBVIOUSLY have never seen a Cilini Prince. Nobody makes a better looking movement than that...
Love Nathan, love the topic of this episode, but not a fan of the watch bashing. Show felt disorganized and pretentious.
"When I'm buying a watch for $11,000 I want it to be a little bit different". Translation, "I want people to notice my Rolex and that I paid a lot of money for it"
The only rolex guy..a just came!
Surprised Tudor Black Bay GMT was not mentioned. True GMT hand with less than half of GMT master II MSRP
If you disregard value retention, there are a lot of brands which are just as great as Rolex. I've gone from three Rolex in my collection to just one and couldn't be happier with those decisions.
Grand Seiko will always be more special.
The Spring Drive movement is a marvel of engineering. I'm a watchmaker. Ask me about how the spring drive works I'll give you a very excited 25 minutes of fun and interesting facts. Your trusted watchmaker was afraid to speak about it.....(from lack of knowledge?)
And then he says it has a hairspring????
Time for a real watchmaker please
I have a GS Snowflake. It is much better than my Rolex. It is finished better. It is light as a feather and keeps incredible time.
Everything I see is 3-4x the prices you’re quoting. How about a link to where you guys shop?
Hello, The Milgauss has a not magnetic escapement. Learn your material before you start making RUclipss
I will second the Omega seamaster 300 professional true GMT. Mine is amazing.
42:51... "I want to know what Cameron thinks"...lol...one guy does not belong in this podcast.
Get rid of the guy on the right. Enjoyed the other 2 guests and there input.
I would have picked the Seiko LX series spring drive diver. It is half the cost of the GS.
Where did nathan go? Bring him back or he should get his own RUclips channel
Wow this started off with a dud
I hated Matt Farah, but he’s a guru compared to that annoying guy
Get the AYEEEE KINGGGGG
I own the planet ocean black and white gmt, it’s a true gmt, adjusted just like a GMT Master. It’s a great watch!
What about tudor black bay gmt ?
OK, I'm a little confused on the GMT section where Cameron mentions changing the main time zone to be your "current" time zone with the GMT time zone set to your "home" time zone. I thought the traditional method was that the main display was always on "home" with the GMT hand set to GMT, then you rotate the bezel to your current time zone offset from GMT. This way you never have to adjust anything, just rotate the bezel as needed. Also, this would seem to negate the advantage to a "true" GMT.
First. Great discussion. I agree with those who do not like the Daytona dial...I have a vintage Navitimer and it still is more legible. My Seamaster 321 Chrono is very very legible and much more reas. priced. I agree with Cameron re the look of the Breguet, but have tried one on and it is too thick for me. I would not wear a Hublot even if it was $500. The Zenith El Primero is much more wearable and something like 12mm thick.
This was really educational, enjoyed it. Try to remember to slow down the screen scrolling and eliminate unnecessary scrolling. We’re not seeing things for as long as you think. Dizzy!
You guys had such a hard time getting alternatives for the GMT and forgot to mention an easy pick the Oris Aquis GMT great watch I know,I own one.
Is the Weiss aluminum caliber anti-magnetic?
Contact them. I had a question about availability, they got back to me the next day.
By Mike's logic, a Rolex is nothing more that just a Tudor!
So much fore those rumors of Cameron despising Seiko.
Do you guys still give a discount code?
Lots of nice watches to consider...
I miss Matt Farah... the top right guy really is not a great mediator.
Yea that Omega Panda-ish watch is dope.
Great episode. Enjoyed this one