The high probability of this is almost 85%, while the 15% is if you make them worse, they'll decided to go after franchises that we liked and exacerbating them into oblivion. So the chance are, if you do make them more upset, they'll most likely to held the IP's at gunpoint?
at first i didn't think too much of this "just a turtle" , but the moment he started posting these npc comments about twitter users i realised , this is the same guy that used to go by "cultured russian waifu" that misteriously disappeared.
@Bxnax Mxxnaxx gate keeping is healthy, it keeps bad faith actors out. If gamers gate kept early on, all the bullshit we dealt with wouldn't have come to pass.
That Tara Strong tweet is just hilarious. Is it weird to post fanart like that? Yeah but if I saw my favorite VA posting something like that, I think I'd just die of laughter more than anything else. 10 years on the internet is an eternity, expect more old posts like this to come up
There's plenty more where that came from. My fellow brony veterans might remember the risqué Twilight Sparkle RP tweets (with fan art) she also posted around that time
Tara Strong posted some awesome stuff back in the day. She didn't shy away from the lewd side of the brony fanbase. I hope we eventually bonk the stupid virtue signaling out of zoomers.
Sinder is really sweet. Twitter getting upset at her cover because it’s “not metal” or because it “doesn’t sound good” and that she should stop making music is upsetting. She has great potential, and I honestly can’t wait for her to make more music in the future
That’s the thing, they don’t want any Vtubers to be successful at all. And it’s not just the only thing around Sinder, these brainrots would rather attack her community when they can’t take SilverVale down herself. Damage by proxy, the audacity.
It's twitter, they get mad about Calli making songs. I even saw a few people on youtube going to Numi's cover of CPR saying similar shit with little traction.
@@nigelis2345 It seems more like some 4chan shit going after Sinder and Calli, but yeah, the tumblr crowd is still there in the cases of Pikamee and Silvervale.
As a metal fan and a Sinder fan, it really doesn't matter how good the cover is or whether you like the song. I can't sing at all. I feel that anyone can sing decently with enough time and practice, but I can't because I've never been able to overcome the fear. Like if I practiced I could become better but I know I'm bad and even alone in my own home I can't overcome the fear and the feeling of embarrassment of how bad I am, so I can't even practice. So seeing someone like Sinder not only sing but record it and publicly post it for all to see I can't help but be impressed by the strength it takes to do that. It's easy to show off a skill when you good at it, it's much harder to build up the will to show yourself as a beginner, before you've mastered something. She deserves praise for putting herself out there, regardless of how good it is.
Guess realizing it's not for em and move on with their lives was too hard Like imagine putting down someone cause they made a cover of the funny sexy rap song
If there is anything that needs to be said about Twitter. Then it would be that if you're getting canceled and hate. Chances are, you've done something right.
Some of you would never survive the MW2 era if you think being criticized means you're being canceled online and it shows. Even Rev said y'all are both cringe as fuck
That image from ben ten is from a fan fiction shipping those two, but getting there is no easy task. One wonders what was she doing when she stumbled upon that image
3:05 to be honest I kinda got the feeling that it was meant to be at least a little cringe, and wasn’t meant to be taken seriously. Like Senzawa’s bad copy pasta turned into a rap but not as good in my opinion.
One thing I'll add to Sinder thing is, on her stream, she said that some of the people that were criticizing her also started to harass the people that worked behind the scenes on the cover (many of whom are her friends), and some of them went so far as to reply to her community's supportive comments on her video with insulting and threatening/harassing replies. EDIT: The person that did the music arrangement tweeted out that she received "KYS" comments because of her work on Sinder's cover
I've received a few of those. not even acknowledging them though, not even worth my time. Better to just stick with the more positive, supportive vibes instead
@@grifmaximus Agreed. I just mention it because in all the reactions to this situation that I've seen, that seems to get lost in the conversation. And, at least from what she said on stream, that bothered her more than anything they were saying to/about Sinder herself.
Ok, you know what? I think the song is bad, but I will give out my sympathy for her because anyone being harassed, attacked and told to unalive themselves in Minecraft over a garbage song is fucking disgusting. People, leave it at "This song sucks" and move on. They don't deserve harassment or attacks just for making a dogwater song.
@xpstar214 Twitter used to be a fun place. I think it's due to the crazy tumblrites who migrated to Twitter after tumblr became more worker-place friendly.
@@Science_Fiction13 Little V is a sanctimonious prick. Don't take his opinions seriously. None of us watch Little V Mills for his "wonderful and enlightened insight" on philosophical musings. We're only there for his music.
Her cover is actually pretty good for a first in my musically experienced (nearly 20 years) opinion, I absolutely recommend taking a listen, it is on her RUclips channel. It does objectively have some things that could use some work, but that is to be expected in a first attempt, I wasn't perfect when I started, either (actually, I was pretty freaking awful). Yeah, the sign is weird and out of place, but like you said, so is the guy for his response. Security absolutely would not have tolerated that sign, I guarantee they would have at least made her stop carrying it around like that due to its antagonistic message, though they more likely would have just tossed her out entirely, convention security does not mess around. I actually don't see an issue with Twitter's move, this doesn't block 2FA entirely, only a single method is blocked, leaving multiple other methods that work just as well. The Viz move is brilliant, especially with these being older anime that aren't likely to attract people to paywall sites like newer ones currently being uploaded might. You're right on Velma, it was kind of planned already, it was just coincidence that people hate watched. I sincerely hope it does not get a third, perhaps even getting the Cowboy Bebop Netflix treatment. Twitter can't take a joke referencing one of her roles, which is all Strong's tweet was, she's not being serious. It actually took me forever to realize she was in the cast of that show.
I praise an original/cover/karaoke song performance when I think it's great and keep quiet if I think the singing it bad because no matter how good or bad, that performer had way more courage to get in front of hundreds if not hundreds of thousands of people and sing than I do. I respect that!
The funny thing is, there are definitely ways to provide constructive criticism for the song. The mixing is rather rough (vocals too loud, parts of drums are too quite while others are too loud, etc.), guitars go from sounding pretty good (chorus) to sounding offbeat and tasteless (mainly the verse), etc. Rap meets Metal is a REALLY tough thing to nail, because it requires a lot of tact - they are two completely different genres, with completely different emphases, and melding them together can be really, REALLY tricky. The song itself is cringe so falling into the trap of praising it or over-analyzing results in this kind of discourse. At the same time, it's her first song, and it's an attempt to learn and build on and perfect. So just hating on it without actually providing constructive criticism results in an unnecessary dog-piling that results in what we're seeing now. My advice: ignore hateful comments, analyze constructive criticism, and go from there. They are first attempts for a reason.
I think this was great for cinder, the amount of people that now know about her has skyrocketed. this is 100% one of those "bad press is good press" situations
Oh yeah on that front good for her she deserves a little extra exposure. Otherwise though im not sure why people are surprised sinder did a lewd song she’s not exactly the most subtle of people…
Probably because the bad press is trying to make her look bad, this creates awareness, and when people go and check it out, they realize there is no issue with the person and that the aggressors are blowing smoke in everyone's faces, so the first general reaction is to side with the receiver.
I've never liked Connor, he's been every open on how much he hates l0lis and. Calling people weridos while behind friends with l0licons, just doesn't make sense to me,
That is how it usually happens streamer gets a large normie fanbase and try to appeal to them by scrubbing themselves clean of anything bad from their past and start hurling stones at other people he associated with in the past
Can’t say I have an idea as to why Connor commented on that drama after a year passed but based on what he’s like I’d imagine he’s only mad at the poster because he handled the situation poorly and not because he agreed with the sign.
Because he is an idiot. Have you heard him speak about anything that requires a bit of intelligence? He is entertaining if it's about toilets, food or something like that. But anytime he is in a more serious conversation, he is a complete moron and it's obvious he is out of his depth.
I don't know, I think he may have agreed with the sign. If I remember right, he's always had a bit more of a distaste for lolis, like when Trash Taste got that Eromanga Sensei figurine. I may be wrong there, but either way he seems to have some weird opinions behind his persona
2FA with SMS is not secure! Forcing more people to use apps or keys would actually increase security, if those people, using SMS earlier would still be using 2FA and not dropping it.
I think she did a bad cover (sounds more like talking than singing) but if she's gonna take this seriously, she will grow from it. I mean people still hate Mori when I think she's gotten better from her beginning. And of course not all artists will make 100% hit songs. That said, just because you like someone doesn't mean you should be blind to their mistakes and misses. Too much blind people on both sides tho...
@@joelthemetalhead9444 eh i dissagree, its a good track, iv listen to a lot of rock and while it isnt amazing its pretty good for what it is. kinda restricted by having it be a cover
For the Twitter thing: no one should use SMS authentication. It cost money for Twitter and it's unsafe for users when compared to app auth or security keys. I hope more companies do this (remove it altogheter) so we can get rid of SMS for authentication once and for all.
You'd think people would know relationships between cousins are perfectly legal in a lot of countries (though a bit stigmatized), yet people are getting upset about a tweet that's over a decade old about kissing a cousin
SMS 2FA is a lot less secure than an app based 2FA. Also SMS services cost money, app is ~free. Makes total sense to me, free users are actually better off.
The song is indeed cringe, but cringe can be fun sometimes. Definitely not as an entire brand, but every once in a while you enjoy seeing someone go there. I really liked her voice from before she became a vtuber. As far as her singing goes, she has some work to do on matching her vocal rhythm to the music, but that comes with experience and practice can fix that. It wasn't an easy song to start on because of the speed and lack of subdivided beats, relying more on her own timing than any musical cues. For a first official attempt, it's not bad. Is it great? No. But every performer has to start somewhere. I hope she uses both sides of the argument to motivate her to put more training in before the next one, and that there is in fact a next one.
7:22 I think he most likely just saw it for the first time, as not everyone sees viral stuff collectively at the time it happened. He likely didnt know about it until now
SMS authentification is pretty expensive for the company - they pay some cents for *every* SMS they need to send, so it's not about Twitter Blue but about reducing maintenance costs. It will probably be better if they just disabled SMS authentification whatsoever but I guess they decided that would upset people more. And well, I think paywalling it turned out to be definitely worse...
4:18 The issue is rev, there is no right way to confronting insanity, your approach for example would be met in kind with "how can you ask me that question when you LITRIILLY defending CP" then she likely uploads that to twitter, calls that an own, and guy still gets dogpiled. The only approach is for people like that to not be allowed in those spaces to begin with but that only starts when people stop being tricked into stigmatizing gatekeeping, because twitter people got no issues doing that to others when they take over the space.
As a metalhead, the vocals aren't even something worth critiquing if they're done like that. It's like, they're clearly not trying to sound super good, they're trying to be funny, cringe and coomerbait. Which like...why is that seriously an issue for people? But this is twitter were talking about, so we all know how that goes. Lookin for any possible reason they can to hate. But if she's learning, more power to her! Her vocals definitely didn't sound bad, just...yeah, like I said, not worth critiquing. Especially for me cause it's rap and I don't really do rap. She sounded average as far as I know. But I will say the instrumental is sick!
@@Science_Fiction13 I did listen to the full version, and it was fine. Who the fuck cares if she released it on music platforms? A song doesn't have to be good to do that. Some people clearly wanted it on the music platform, so why is that such an issue for you? Like Rev said, it's NOT that real man. If you really have such a problem with it, than I think that's more of an issue with you than her.
"Do you have any evidence to support that claim?" bruh I hope you're doing the meme, because if he actually went up and said that unironically he would've been dumpstered.
Fictional characters have fictional ages and live in a fictional world with fictional laws and fictional families, living fictional lives, with fictional friends, attending fictional schools and working fictional jobs.
What is it "hate on anime girls" month or something or does this particular month make particular group become reminded about how sad they are and they feel like spreading that misery around?
Idk why they don't just add things that would actually entice people to buy twitter blue. Like maybe things to spice up your profile, themes, etc. Cosmetics are always something that ppl are willing to pay for. Instead they paywall something that is a bare minimum for security :/ 1
Crunchyroll/Funimation have been posting episodes of shows on RUclips for years. Usually they wouldn't put a full season up though, just the first couple episodes. I do remember a time many years ago when Funimation did have whole seasons of some of their less popular shows available on RUclips.
When people who, without the internet, would never meet, all are confronted with the fact that there are people with different cultures and ways of thinking, you will always get people who think they need everyone else to conform to their ways of thought, and do whatever they want to make that known... so many people don't think long enough term to understand when they're hurting their cause more than helping it.
I didn't like the song that much it was basically just a 18+ version of that uwu song. Though I didn't dislike the song so much that I attacked the creator.
I checked it out, as an avid metalhead I thought it was kinda funny, it's honestly not terrible probably just idiots trying to gatekeep metal, even if they only know the mainstream garbage
Text messages to phone do cost money in most countries and eventually need some other infrastructure. Back in the days we needed SIM gateways to do this. Though, I don't know if they use other methods these days. So, putting this behind a pay wall makes sense in a way. You will still get 2FA with other methods which use just regular internet..
Tara Strong has always been a shitposter, anyone that was in /mlp/ or /co/ sphere back in 2013 rembers that. The fact that people are reacting like that today is a massive blackpill
Tara Strong was always based and will always stay based, her posts about based ships, lewds ofher sexier characters and her directly interacting with her fans. Twitter seriously thinks they have a chance? ... Guess it's time notify the others.
If you're bringing a sign into a convention calling out people in that convention, stand by your so-called morals. But if you see someone with a sign by themselves don't go into berserk mode
Without knowing all the info on it, my best guess on the Connor retweet is that maybe he only just saw that post now due to some twitter algorism thing, and he didn't even notice the date. But that's just my off the cuff theory. I have to imagine that happens more often then not with a lot of things on social media. Also, the Tara Strong thing is stupid...She was clearly pocking fun at weird cartoon fan shipping...How can one take it as anything otherwise?...Or is that what Twitter is actually mad about?...I wouldn't be surprised either way.
I saw the tweet about this a few days ago and thought nothing of it, then just now looked up the song so I could understand the context. . . brb going to church
It's sad to see just how much the internet has changed for the worse in only a decade. A simple tweet that used to be taken as a lighthearted joke is now seen as the end of the world.
I'm not a fan of vtubers but am admittedly interested in the tech the more I see. Anyone know a good place to look into how they work? It a set of animation presets or live acted motion capture? I'm genuinely curious. I'm just starting to get into coding and found this fascinating.
I know the person who was calling out the sign-carrier. I do agree that he could have, and should have, handled the situation better than he did. The girl carrying the sign was obviously looking to stir up controversy (likely paid or otherwise dared to on behalf of some known bad actors), and it doesn't look good for our side when someone reacts the way he did, but I understand WHY he reacted the way he did. And she is very lucky that this is the worst reaction she supposedly got.
I've said it many times and I'll say it again. Anything that makes Twitter users upset is a good thing.
Good thing?
NFTs and CP: Hello there
The high probability of this is almost 85%, while the 15% is if you make them worse, they'll decided to go after franchises that we liked and exacerbating them into oblivion. So the chance are, if you do make them more upset, they'll most likely to held the IP's at gunpoint?
Calm down, the song just wasn't good. Harassment and threats are not right ofc
at first i didn't think too much of this "just a turtle" , but the moment he started posting these npc comments about twitter users i realised , this is the same guy that used to go by "cultured russian waifu" that misteriously disappeared.
They made a huge mistake in targeting Sinder. I believe that this V-tuber is remained uncancellable due to how less toxic her community is.
So blind worshippers got it lol
I’d agree. They’re too chill to care even if they don’t like the song
They're going to need more gatekeeping otherwise toxic people will keep coming into the community. I see it happen all the time
@Edgar Banuelos so gain Toxicity to fight toxicity.., we all will be eating seeds by the end..,
@Bxnax Mxxnaxx gate keeping is healthy, it keeps bad faith actors out. If gamers gate kept early on, all the bullshit we dealt with wouldn't have come to pass.
Apparently Twitter forgot that Tara Strong voices in adult animation. Christ, she voiced 2 characters in Drawn Together, which has this kind of humor
And Lucy from Whacked!
didn't she get some driver fired over a maga hat?
@@PhineasKSliderVT That game was so fucking weird. I liked the bacteria-thing guy, he was funny looking.
oh shit i saw someone post a clip that i'm sure many might try to cancel her with with the princess chick knew that voice was familiar!
She was also Timmy turner form fairly odd parents
That Tara Strong tweet is just hilarious. Is it weird to post fanart like that? Yeah but if I saw my favorite VA posting something like that, I think I'd just die of laughter more than anything else. 10 years on the internet is an eternity, expect more old posts like this to come up
Too bad Tara strong is a piece of crap.
There's plenty more where that came from. My fellow brony veterans might remember the risqué Twilight Sparkle RP tweets (with fan art) she also posted around that time
When she's not bitching about politics, she's pretty based.
She even encourages the rumors about her "escapades" at conventions.
Tara Strong posted some awesome stuff back in the day.
She didn't shy away from the lewd side of the brony fanbase.
I hope we eventually bonk the stupid virtue signaling out of zoomers.
The awkward nature of that ship is already a meme on its own
My opinion on this is: she's learning. Practice makes perfect. Let the first be average
Agreed
It's better than just average, imo. She's got a solid voice and a lot of potential.
@RakankradΔ maybe, but I meant it like "it doesn't have to be the best" and "it isn't the worst."
Agreed, only thing I don't like is the song choice but it was a pretty well done cover over all
Exactly.
Sinder is really sweet. Twitter getting upset at her cover because it’s “not metal” or because it “doesn’t sound good” and that she should stop making music is upsetting. She has great potential, and I honestly can’t wait for her to make more music in the future
yeah
Me too
same!
That’s the thing, they don’t want any Vtubers to be successful at all. And it’s not just the only thing around Sinder, these brainrots would rather attack her community when they can’t take SilverVale down herself. Damage by proxy, the audacity.
I mean, the tweet says that it’s a “metal cover”
Dude it's just a song cover I wonder what else they'd get mad over lol
Ita Twitter. They're always mad and just looking for excuses to vent it on someone.
It's twitter, they get mad about Calli making songs. I even saw a few people on youtube going to Numi's cover of CPR saying similar shit with little traction.
Playing Hogwarts Legacy….
@@eddielombardo I thought with Elon buying Twitter that they would fuck off back to Tumbler.
@@nigelis2345 It seems more like some 4chan shit going after Sinder and Calli, but yeah, the tumblr crowd is still there in the cases of Pikamee and Silvervale.
Wow. They had to go back ten years just to find something to yell at Tara Strong over? Ten whole years of good behavior! That's, like, a record!
I mean correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't it the same for James Gunn and Kevin Hart as well right?
Dumb of them to go after Sinder, she got that dawg in her
Lmao
Cinder's got that dawg in her 🔥🔥🔥 put it down
@@KakfkaLover genshin player😵 go take a shower
@@captaintakis1984 both of you are the same lol
@@f.o.8547 you know who else is the same, my mom.
I didn’t like the cover but I wouldn’t go out of my way to complain, I do not care enough
As a metal fan and a Sinder fan, it really doesn't matter how good the cover is or whether you like the song. I can't sing at all. I feel that anyone can sing decently with enough time and practice, but I can't because I've never been able to overcome the fear. Like if I practiced I could become better but I know I'm bad and even alone in my own home I can't overcome the fear and the feeling of embarrassment of how bad I am, so I can't even practice. So seeing someone like Sinder not only sing but record it and publicly post it for all to see I can't help but be impressed by the strength it takes to do that.
It's easy to show off a skill when you good at it, it's much harder to build up the will to show yourself as a beginner, before you've mastered something. She deserves praise for putting herself out there, regardless of how good it is.
Guess realizing it's not for em and move on with their lives was too hard
Like imagine putting down someone cause they made a cover of the funny sexy rap song
If there is anything that needs to be said about Twitter. Then it would be that if you're getting canceled and hate. Chances are, you've done something right.
Facts. Amen
Currently temp banned and 88 people blocked me. I had only been here for a month.
Am I a messiah?
Damn right.
Some of you would never survive the MW2 era if you think being criticized means you're being canceled online and it shows. Even Rev said y'all are both cringe as fuck
I like Sinder's cover. Even if someone didn't why would it even matter to them? Just don't listen to it or watch her if you don't like her content.
That image from ben ten is from a fan fiction shipping those two, but getting there is no easy task. One wonders what was she doing when she stumbled upon that image
3:05 to be honest I kinda got the feeling that it was meant to be at least a little cringe, and wasn’t meant to be taken seriously. Like Senzawa’s bad copy pasta turned into a rap but not as good in my opinion.
One thing I'll add to Sinder thing is, on her stream, she said that some of the people that were criticizing her also started to harass the people that worked behind the scenes on the cover (many of whom are her friends), and some of them went so far as to reply to her community's supportive comments on her video with insulting and threatening/harassing replies.
EDIT: The person that did the music arrangement tweeted out that she received "KYS" comments because of her work on Sinder's cover
I've received a few of those. not even acknowledging them though, not even worth my time. Better to just stick with the more positive, supportive vibes instead
@@grifmaximus Agreed. I just mention it because in all the reactions to this situation that I've seen, that seems to get lost in the conversation. And, at least from what she said on stream, that bothered her more than anything they were saying to/about Sinder herself.
"Threatening/harassing replies" you gotta be a big time pussy to think that those replies are threatening
Ok, you know what? I think the song is bad, but I will give out my sympathy for her because anyone being harassed, attacked and told to unalive themselves in Minecraft over a garbage song is fucking disgusting. People, leave it at "This song sucks" and move on. They don't deserve harassment or attacks just for making a dogwater song.
Already found a new target, have they?
Sinder did a good job of covering it. it was fun.
It just sounded like she was talking, not singing lol. Still shouldnt have people going crazy like this though
Yes, it was fun, that's why they wanna cancel her, she did something fun.
Nah, that shit was ass 💀
@@3ftninja132 it's hating not cancelling
@@yomatasaki If anything, I'd like to see her improve and cover it again in the future, hopefully with better instrumentals, too.
Next she should do a cover of Misery by Maroon 5 and the Reeses puff song so she can layer them all together.
Maybe Ram Ranch and 4 Big Guys too
Never heard of Sinder, but now I'm going to give her a view in spite of "No Fun Allowed" Twitter
@xpstar214
Twitter used to be a fun place. I think it's due to the crazy tumblrites who migrated to Twitter after tumblr became more worker-place friendly.
I hate this cover. But I never got all hateful and attacked her. I just said I didn't like it. And that's it. Like a Sensible Adult.
Adult behavior on the internet??
Exactly how I see it. Just dislike it and move on. No need to be unhinged.
I disliked it to and Little V Mills got mad over that
@@Science_Fiction13 what does little V got to do with it?
@@Science_Fiction13 Little V is a sanctimonious prick. Don't take his opinions seriously. None of us watch Little V Mills for his "wonderful and enlightened insight" on philosophical musings.
We're only there for his music.
Good on VIZ for uploading practically all of Naruto Part 1 on RUclips.
Both Dub & Sub I hope.
And Sailor Moon too. I remember that VIZ media has a website to check out free episodes of Sailor Moon.
Is this recent that they moved their stuff?
Someone always just trying to cancel people for having fun, i mean damn.
Nah this entire situation is so damn funny making jokes isn't trying to cancel somebody otherwise we'd all be guilty right now
@@KakfkaLover genshin player 🐳
@@KakfkaLover dunno if im misunderstanding something here, but im referring to the angy twitter users, not rev.
@@captaintakis1984 why're you following them in the replies
Her cover is actually pretty good for a first in my musically experienced (nearly 20 years) opinion, I absolutely recommend taking a listen, it is on her RUclips channel. It does objectively have some things that could use some work, but that is to be expected in a first attempt, I wasn't perfect when I started, either (actually, I was pretty freaking awful).
Yeah, the sign is weird and out of place, but like you said, so is the guy for his response. Security absolutely would not have tolerated that sign, I guarantee they would have at least made her stop carrying it around like that due to its antagonistic message, though they more likely would have just tossed her out entirely, convention security does not mess around.
I actually don't see an issue with Twitter's move, this doesn't block 2FA entirely, only a single method is blocked, leaving multiple other methods that work just as well.
The Viz move is brilliant, especially with these being older anime that aren't likely to attract people to paywall sites like newer ones currently being uploaded might.
You're right on Velma, it was kind of planned already, it was just coincidence that people hate watched. I sincerely hope it does not get a third, perhaps even getting the Cowboy Bebop Netflix treatment.
Twitter can't take a joke referencing one of her roles, which is all Strong's tweet was, she's not being serious. It actually took me forever to realize she was in the cast of that show.
Looking at the Tara Strong tweet without any context, it just seems like she's making a joke about how much fucking lewd fanart there is of the two.
It's so obviously a joke that taking it seriously makes you look more ridiculous than then what you're objective to
I praise an original/cover/karaoke song performance when I think it's great and keep quiet if I think the singing it bad because no matter how good or bad, that performer had way more courage to get in front of hundreds if not hundreds of thousands of people and sing than I do. I respect that!
The funny thing is, there are definitely ways to provide constructive criticism for the song. The mixing is rather rough (vocals too loud, parts of drums are too quite while others are too loud, etc.), guitars go from sounding pretty good (chorus) to sounding offbeat and tasteless (mainly the verse), etc. Rap meets Metal is a REALLY tough thing to nail, because it requires a lot of tact - they are two completely different genres, with completely different emphases, and melding them together can be really, REALLY tricky. The song itself is cringe so falling into the trap of praising it or over-analyzing results in this kind of discourse.
At the same time, it's her first song, and it's an attempt to learn and build on and perfect. So just hating on it without actually providing constructive criticism results in an unnecessary dog-piling that results in what we're seeing now. My advice: ignore hateful comments, analyze constructive criticism, and go from there. They are first attempts for a reason.
Rev big goat ngl keeps us updated about all of the stupid twitter drama 👍 keep it up
Jesus, canine themed vtubers had it rough recently
Can we go one day without the twitter freaks throwing a fit over this or that?
No, its what they do. The sooner everyone ignored them the better
No
I think this was great for cinder, the amount of people that now know about her has skyrocketed. this is 100% one of those "bad press is good press" situations
Oh yeah on that front good for her she deserves a little extra exposure. Otherwise though im not sure why people are surprised sinder did a lewd song she’s not exactly the most subtle of people…
Probably because the bad press is trying to make her look bad, this creates awareness, and when people go and check it out, they realize there is no issue with the person and that the aggressors are blowing smoke in everyone's faces, so the first general reaction is to side with the receiver.
Vtubers fans would gobble up any trashy song as long as they can hear their favorite waifu's voice.
Facts.
I've never liked Connor, he's been every open on how much he hates l0lis and.
Calling people weridos while behind friends with l0licons, just doesn't make sense to me,
That is how it usually happens streamer gets a large normie fanbase and try to appeal to them by scrubbing themselves clean of anything bad from their past and start hurling stones at other people he associated with in the past
Can’t say I have an idea as to why Connor commented on that drama after a year passed but based on what he’s like I’d imagine he’s only mad at the poster because he handled the situation poorly and not because he agreed with the sign.
Exactly
I don't know. But while I defend the guy and like him personally I do understand why people consider that kind of confrontation counterproductive.
Because he is an idiot. Have you heard him speak about anything that requires a bit of intelligence? He is entertaining if it's about toilets, food or something like that. But anytime he is in a more serious conversation, he is a complete moron and it's obvious he is out of his depth.
I don't know, I think he may have agreed with the sign. If I remember right, he's always had a bit more of a distaste for lolis, like when Trash Taste got that Eromanga Sensei figurine. I may be wrong there, but either way he seems to have some weird opinions behind his persona
@@kaiishere016 I mean, he is a dumbass.
2FA with SMS is not secure! Forcing more people to use apps or keys would actually increase security, if those people, using SMS earlier would still be using 2FA and not dropping it.
Plot twist: Sinder is hiding a huge surprise under her skirt for both Chat and the rest of the VTuber Community.
A massive Bionicle collection
Shut up bot.
Is Sinder taking a number 2 again under her skirt?
ThatMakesItBetter.tif
Sinder's pregnant??? 0A0'''''
I'm curious what has changed in the last 10 years, is it just people more acess to the internet or something else entirely
I think she did a bad cover (sounds more like talking than singing) but if she's gonna take this seriously, she will grow from it. I mean people still hate Mori when I think she's gotten better from her beginning. And of course not all artists will make 100% hit songs.
That said, just because you like someone doesn't mean you should be blind to their mistakes and misses. Too much blind people on both sides tho...
This and the track is also very boring and bland
@@joelthemetalhead9444 eh i dissagree, its a good track, iv listen to a lot of rock and while it isnt amazing its pretty good for what it is. kinda restricted by having it be a cover
@@macvadda2318 yeah but there should've been a little more variety in the track would've made it leagues better it really sounded uninspired
@@rexx5031 True, I try to keep myself neutral to avoid falling into pitfalls of hate and spite.
@@macvadda2318 The background music is fantastic. There just didn't need to be E-Thot lyrics. Yes, I know its a cover. No, I do not care.
So either connor has been in cryosleep or he's just simply want to stir up old drama/topic cause he's bored.
For the Twitter thing: no one should use SMS authentication. It cost money for Twitter and it's unsafe for users when compared to app auth or security keys.
I hope more companies do this (remove it altogheter) so we can get rid of SMS for authentication once and for all.
You'd think people would know relationships between cousins are perfectly legal in a lot of countries (though a bit stigmatized), yet people are getting upset about a tweet that's over a decade old about kissing a cousin
It’s also a joke?
It hasn't been that long but I'm glad to see these haters upset cause if Twitter users get mad its a good thing
Good thing since the Hogwart Legacy is banned by Twitter users. but all plans have gone backfire sir. and black napalm burn their skin sir
She gets known even more which means more support, always a L for the insane who cancels.
All hail Rev our poster vampire Loli 🧛♀️ representation of the anime/vtuber community
SMS 2FA is a lot less secure than an app based 2FA. Also SMS services cost money, app is ~free. Makes total sense to me, free users are actually better off.
The song is indeed cringe, but cringe can be fun sometimes. Definitely not as an entire brand, but every once in a while you enjoy seeing someone go there.
I really liked her voice from before she became a vtuber. As far as her singing goes, she has some work to do on matching her vocal rhythm to the music, but that comes with experience and practice can fix that. It wasn't an easy song to start on because of the speed and lack of subdivided beats, relying more on her own timing than any musical cues.
For a first official attempt, it's not bad. Is it great? No. But every performer has to start somewhere. I hope she uses both sides of the argument to motivate her to put more training in before the next one, and that there is in fact a next one.
I love the fact that you covered so much vtuber drama that my add section is flooded by vtuber stuff, thanks!
Social media as a whole is something I stay away from. The only exception to this is RUclips, and Twitch as they're more like entertainment platforms.
Why is Sinder so damn cute?
Cause
good question
You’ve seen her actual face?
@@UmmItsMJ He's obviously talking about the character portrayed don't act smart
@@greed94 Exactly. Thank you.
-gasp- A guy coming off threatening and aggressive at anime Matsuri, a con in Texas, I'm shooketh..
There's no music genre fan more fragile than metalheads.
I saw this [tweet about the cover] earlier yesterday, but I didn't think it went that far.
I hope they really do have the complete Inuyasha series, toonami never finished the series
7:22 I think he most likely just saw it for the first time, as not everyone sees viral stuff collectively at the time it happened. He likely didnt know about it until now
Rev is becoming a news channel and I love it.
Making enemies of horrible people means you’re on the right path.
SMS authentification is pretty expensive for the company - they pay some cents for *every* SMS they need to send, so it's not about Twitter Blue but about reducing maintenance costs. It will probably be better if they just disabled SMS authentification whatsoever but I guess they decided that would upset people more. And well, I think paywalling it turned out to be definitely worse...
They're just asking to be hacked
i honestly just wish elon would just completely delete and remove twitter from the internet already
This is weird I can't find this video on your channel but I found it in recommend from another video
4:18 The issue is rev, there is no right way to confronting insanity, your approach for example would be met in kind with "how can you ask me that question when you LITRIILLY defending CP" then she likely uploads that to twitter, calls that an own, and guy still gets dogpiled. The only approach is for people like that to not be allowed in those spaces to begin with but that only starts when people stop being tricked into stigmatizing gatekeeping, because twitter people got no issues doing that to others when they take over the space.
As a metalhead, the vocals aren't even something worth critiquing if they're done like that. It's like, they're clearly not trying to sound super good, they're trying to be funny, cringe and coomerbait. Which like...why is that seriously an issue for people? But this is twitter were talking about, so we all know how that goes. Lookin for any possible reason they can to hate. But if she's learning, more power to her! Her vocals definitely didn't sound bad, just...yeah, like I said, not worth critiquing. Especially for me cause it's rap and I don't really do rap. She sounded average as far as I know.
But I will say the instrumental is sick!
If you listen to the full version, it really sucks, like it's bad. If she was doing it for fun, she wouldn't release a full version on music platforms
@@Science_Fiction13 I did listen to the full version, and it was fine. Who the fuck cares if she released it on music platforms? A song doesn't have to be good to do that. Some people clearly wanted it on the music platform, so why is that such an issue for you? Like Rev said, it's NOT that real man. If you really have such a problem with it, than I think that's more of an issue with you than her.
Wait, where's the instrumental? All I've seen is a clear rip from the original song and a cover of the cover.
"Do you have any evidence to support that claim?" bruh I hope you're doing the meme, because if he actually went up and said that unironically he would've been dumpstered.
Fictional characters have fictional ages and live in a fictional world with fictional laws and fictional families, living fictional lives, with fictional friends, attending fictional schools and working fictional jobs.
The sign tweet was retweeted because the original tweeter retweeted it himself at that same time.
What is it "hate on anime girls" month or something or does this particular month make particular group become reminded about how sad they are and they feel like spreading that misery around?
I'll never understand what ppl think would happen posting on Twitter.
Idk why they don't just add things that would actually entice people to buy twitter blue. Like maybe things to spice up your profile, themes, etc. Cosmetics are always something that ppl are willing to pay for. Instead they paywall something that is a bare minimum for security :/ 1
Crunchyroll/Funimation have been posting episodes of shows on RUclips for years. Usually they wouldn't put a full season up though, just the first couple episodes. I do remember a time many years ago when Funimation did have whole seasons of some of their less popular shows available on RUclips.
I was following Tara on twitter when she made that tweet. I thought it was funny, and I still do.
When people who, without the internet, would never meet, all are confronted with the fact that there are people with different cultures and ways of thinking, you will always get people who think they need everyone else to conform to their ways of thought, and do whatever they want to make that known... so many people don't think long enough term to understand when they're hurting their cause more than helping it.
I didn't like the song that much it was basically just a 18+ version of that uwu song. Though I didn't dislike the song so much that I attacked the creator.
I’m certain that Connor was referring to the guy’s reaction.
As subpar as Sinder's singing may be, it doesn't deserve that quantity of twitter schizos throwing shit at her.
Twitter: "CPR is a cringe song, it's such coomer bait."
Sinder: "I missed the part where that's my problem."
My opinion is the same with Calli's rapping.
Criticism: YES!
Harassment: HELL NO!
Do I need to listen to both of them?
Honestly I'm glad I don't
Bruh! Viz uploading all of Sailor Moon to RUclips? That's pretty cool, I've been planning to have a Sailor Moon rewatch marathon.
I checked it out, as an avid metalhead I thought it was kinda funny, it's honestly not terrible
probably just idiots trying to gatekeep metal, even if they only know the mainstream garbage
A)Always gatekeep your hobbies.
B)Lol ok Armchair Six Feet Under. Easy there.
Text messages to phone do cost money in most countries and eventually need some other infrastructure. Back in the days we needed SIM gateways to do this. Though, I don't know if they use other methods these days. So, putting this behind a pay wall makes sense in a way. You will still get 2FA with other methods which use just regular internet..
It hasn't even been out that long
I hate that so many apps just assume that people have phones to use for 2FA
Tara Strong has always been a shitposter, anyone that was in /mlp/ or /co/ sphere back in 2013 rembers that. The fact that people are reacting like that today is a massive blackpill
Thanks for this video, it's a nice birthday 🎂 gift to me today 😉
Tara Strong was always based and will always stay based, her posts about based ships, lewds ofher sexier characters and her directly interacting with her fans. Twitter seriously thinks they have a chance? ... Guess it's time notify the others.
Other then being one of THOSE vegans
I’ve been wanting to watch Sailor Moon for a long while now, I’m just glad most (if not all) of it is available on youtube
I seen that sometimes twitter shows really old twits in the for you so it's probably not that deep and maybe Connor didn't check the date
Man that guy confronting the girl made me cringe so hard dear lord why would he do this c'mon
Neither of those people are "sane".
If you're bringing a sign into a convention calling out people in that convention, stand by your so-called morals.
But if you see someone with a sign by themselves don't go into berserk mode
Without knowing all the info on it, my best guess on the Connor retweet is that maybe he only just saw that post now due to some twitter algorism thing, and he didn't even notice the date. But that's just my off the cuff theory. I have to imagine that happens more often then not with a lot of things on social media.
Also, the Tara Strong thing is stupid...She was clearly pocking fun at weird cartoon fan shipping...How can one take it as anything otherwise?...Or is that what Twitter is actually mad about?...I wouldn't be surprised either way.
I saw the tweet about this a few days ago and thought nothing of it, then just now looked up the song so I could understand the context. . . brb going to church
This just don't surprise me no more
It's sad to see just how much the internet has changed for the worse in only a decade. A simple tweet that used to be taken as a lighthearted joke is now seen as the end of the world.
I'm not a fan of vtubers but am admittedly interested in the tech the more I see. Anyone know a good place to look into how they work? It a set of animation presets or live acted motion capture? I'm genuinely curious. I'm just starting to get into coding and found this fascinating.
I know the person who was calling out the sign-carrier. I do agree that he could have, and should have, handled the situation better than he did. The girl carrying the sign was obviously looking to stir up controversy (likely paid or otherwise dared to on behalf of some known bad actors), and it doesn't look good for our side when someone reacts the way he did, but I understand WHY he reacted the way he did. And she is very lucky that this is the worst reaction she supposedly got.
That Tara Strong tweet is funny as hell!
It’s perfect for that era of comedy. Do people really forget what many jokes were about in that era?
I think all should not use sms for 2FA
Hey, wait a minute!
I was there! I was only being honest about the song, I wasn't attacking her!
Velma is getting a second season....God has abandoned us.
he was just scrolling through twitter and saw it then retweeted it now in it
Just a Lucky guess, but Tara Strong Voiced Ben Tennyson that usually is shipped with his cousin, probably she's referring to this?
Too bad we can't see the anime playlists here in NZ unless I use a VPN
SMS spoofing is a thing and if I could only use an app I would