The macrodynamics comment was really helpful. That is usually what im trying to achieve with compression, but i never understood what correct settings to use. Thank you!
Awesome, glad this was helpful! I would also add gain-staging BEFORE this compression as well if you have tracks that are extra-dynamic that you're needing to control. I have a video coming out on this particular piece of the puzzle in a few weeks. Keep your eye out if you're not clear on how to do this.
Really good eye opener stuff mate 👍👍 More food for thought on compression... High TH & Low RATIO : to dig into the body of the audio - good for single tracks & very high peacky transient material.. Low TH & High RATIO : to catch the peaks only & so NOT to impart the compressors tone much into the audio - good for busses.. Wot do you say mate ? 😁
Low ratio will give you a more natural sounding compression, given that it will more evenly compress everything in the audio source. High ratio will simply be far more aggressive in whatever style of compression you're trying to setup. The low threshold, high ratio will NOT only catch the peaks if you're using groovy or punchy type compression. They will be TRIGGERED off the peaks, but actually dig into the valleys - if you follow. :) This can be a complex topic, so thanks for throwing this out there. Happy to make more videos to explore this topic more if you'd find that helpful.
I am very glad that someone talked about this 4 techniques. I rarely comment, but knowing that there will be a lot of beginners watching this video, I think that the make up gain shouldn't be how ever it is being reduced on the meter since the attack and release are not gonna grab the whole waveform and also that is not how ears perceive loudness. Also, the threshold should be adjust accordingly to lower threshold for punchy and groovy style, and higher threshold for consistency and thick style and consistency style should be always considered first if the sound isn't consistent since if the peaks aren't tamed properly, applying those techniques isn't going to work very well. The last thing is, these techniques are for creating depth, using the vocabulary loudness might be abit confusing for beginners of "oh loud is better" Thick style is a great way to push the sound back in the mix, while you use that on a drum bus, I do agree it did "sounded" louder since you are boosting the rms level, however you are gain compensating 1:1 ratio of how much being reduced, but if we gain compensate to the same perceived loudness, different techniques except consistency style will all create depth by pushing forward and backwards due to the perception of how peaks were being pushed out or back will determain foward or back for the depth of the mix. This is no hate comment, I do appreciate you talking about it but itd be great if you can refine a little bit when show these techniques. Thank you and have a wonderful day!
Hey, I appreciate the comment and suggestions. I'll let you know why I didn't include this additional information, as it is naturally correct. If I told a beginner all of this info all at once, they would walk away from the video with an even less clear understanding of compression than when they started. I've taught over 500 producers mixing, and the #1 thing I do to ensure they are successful is simplify everything to its core components. Here, the first layer to understanding compression is attack and release. That's all that this video was meant to cover. I didn't really try to make comments on makeup gain because of this fact. I have another video on gain coming up that will help with this as well.
A Transient is not the same as a Peak. Transients usually happen before the Peak (Peak is the highest magnitude of a signal in a given range\audio‑clip). Peaks are used for Peak metering and clipping. Transients are used to determine a potential start of a new Peak - usually to get the beginning of a sound. That is why percussive sounds get their transients easily detected, whilst pad sounds are not so easy to chop for time\beat purposes.
You're correct, of course. I refer to these terms as interchangeable due to the function of compression and how to utilize it effectively, not to be scientifically accurate. Thank you for the correction.
@dinosaurdogstudio one thing I was taught was to bring the threshold right down, get it feeling how you want it the adjust the threshold back to the desired level of reduction. Also, 99% of your viewers are probably watching through headphones whilst on the toilet, not a critical listening environment like a studio. Good job my man. :)
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Well done!..One of the finest explanation of compression I’ve seen.
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The is one of the clearest explanations of the basic concepts of compression and its practical applications that I have seen.
Thanks for the compliment! Glad it was clear and helpful - my #1 goal. 😁 Cheers! , 🍻
I agree. I loved the graphics too. Thank you!
Excellent demonstration, thank you for sharing!
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The macrodynamics comment was really helpful. That is usually what im trying to achieve with compression, but i never understood what correct settings to use. Thank you!
Awesome, glad this was helpful! I would also add gain-staging BEFORE this compression as well if you have tracks that are extra-dynamic that you're needing to control.
I have a video coming out on this particular piece of the puzzle in a few weeks. Keep your eye out if you're not clear on how to do this.
This was such a clear breakdown of compression styles! I just bought your book I’m looking forward to the gems dropped in there.
Thank you! I appreciate the comment and so glad that this was helpful for you.
one of the best explainers of what compression can do.
excellent job bro
thank u ! 🙏🏼
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Really good eye opener stuff mate 👍👍
More food for thought on compression...
High TH & Low RATIO : to dig into the body of the audio - good for single tracks & very high peacky transient material..
Low TH & High RATIO : to catch the peaks only & so NOT to impart the compressors tone much into the audio - good for busses..
Wot do you say mate ? 😁
Low ratio will give you a more natural sounding compression, given that it will more evenly compress everything in the audio source.
High ratio will simply be far more aggressive in whatever style of compression you're trying to setup.
The low threshold, high ratio will NOT only catch the peaks if you're using groovy or punchy type compression. They will be TRIGGERED off the peaks, but actually dig into the valleys - if you follow. :)
This can be a complex topic, so thanks for throwing this out there. Happy to make more videos to explore this topic more if you'd find that helpful.
I am very glad that someone talked about this 4 techniques. I rarely comment, but knowing that there will be a lot of beginners watching this video, I think that the make up gain shouldn't be how ever it is being reduced on the meter since the attack and release are not gonna grab the whole waveform and also that is not how ears perceive loudness. Also, the threshold should be adjust accordingly to lower threshold for punchy and groovy style, and higher threshold for consistency and thick style and consistency style should be always considered first if the sound isn't consistent since if the peaks aren't tamed properly, applying those techniques isn't going to work very well. The last thing is, these techniques are for creating depth, using the vocabulary loudness might be abit confusing for beginners of "oh loud is better" Thick style is a great way to push the sound back in the mix, while you use that on a drum bus, I do agree it did "sounded" louder since you are boosting the rms level, however you are gain compensating 1:1 ratio of how much being reduced, but if we gain compensate to the same perceived loudness, different techniques except consistency style will all create depth by pushing forward and backwards due to the perception of how peaks were being pushed out or back will determain foward or back for the depth of the mix.
This is no hate comment, I do appreciate you talking about it but itd be great if you can refine a little bit when show these techniques. Thank you and have a wonderful day!
Hey, I appreciate the comment and suggestions.
I'll let you know why I didn't include this additional information, as it is naturally correct.
If I told a beginner all of this info all at once, they would walk away from the video with an even less clear understanding of compression than when they started.
I've taught over 500 producers mixing, and the #1 thing I do to ensure they are successful is simplify everything to its core components. Here, the first layer to understanding compression is attack and release. That's all that this video was meant to cover. I didn't really try to make comments on makeup gain because of this fact.
I have another video on gain coming up that will help with this as well.
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most people have an extremely hard time with nuance and wouldn't understand it in this context.
Very helpful thank you sir
You are my number one channel here sir ❤
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You've go this.
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Only 4 way I watched after 4day ×4 and I understand 4ways of compression
Now i'm not just gonna tweak knobs not knowing what i do!
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A Transient is not the same as a Peak. Transients usually happen before the Peak (Peak is the highest magnitude of a signal in a given range\audio‑clip).
Peaks are used for Peak metering and clipping. Transients are used to determine a potential start of a new Peak - usually to get the beginning of a sound.
That is why percussive sounds get their transients easily detected, whilst pad sounds are not so easy to chop for time\beat purposes.
You're correct, of course. I refer to these terms as interchangeable due to the function of compression and how to utilize it effectively, not to be scientifically accurate.
Thank you for the correction.
Great job man. One suggestion is to overcook the compression so its blatently clear whats happening
And here I was thinking that's what I DID do! Thanks for the feedback! Good to know I need to dial it up a bit for things like this. 👍
@dinosaurdogstudio one thing I was taught was to bring the threshold right down, get it feeling how you want it the adjust the threshold back to the desired level of reduction.
Also, 99% of your viewers are probably watching through headphones whilst on the toilet, not a critical listening environment like a studio. Good job my man. :)
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Sounds like terms for Mountains
That's why it's intuitive. 🤷🏻♂️
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Low ratio and high threshold , another way to use a compressor, try it out 🎉🎉🎉🎉
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