"Only a failed general would resort to nuclear missiles." Makes me wonder how General Kwai feels about General Tao, since Tao has FIVE nuclear missile solos that he is all too happy to use.
I think "failed general would resort to nuclear missiles" was a reference to General Mcarthur that planed to nuke China when UN forces were pushed back in Korea War.
I remember I'd almost always picked either the Tank or Nuke General, since it's hard to argue against a wave of Emperor Overlords, or Migs dropping mini-nukes.
@@stupidumbasshithead5715 Nuke general artillery could outrange them. Would be funny if the Super weapon general had her Tomahawks also had some EMP effect
Actually, Infantry General is strongest in MP. Battle listnenig outposts and Helix, filled with upgraded rocketman, makking much more damage per second, then Overlorlord.
@@Goran1138 infantry could be hardblocked though. Snipers and rockets can quickly cripple your attack ,so demanding that you be offensive as quickly as possible to prevent your enemy from reacting.
@@PainRack Each unit and strategy in C&C has their own countermeasure, and infantry general is not exeption. But comparing with other Chineese generals, infantry general has his most effective units relatively early. and time is the most important in multiplayer games.
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Though I feel they do repeat a little too much. I kinda wish there was an option to maybe tone down the taunting. Especially Kwai and Thrax can get very obnoxious if the battle draws out.
1:20 That's really weird cause in practice his real strength is combined arms. Also his lines indicate swarms but his actual tactics are very quality over quantity. With the pricy minigunner and the expensive bunker vehicles you can't just swarm your enemy. Despite his dialogue horde tactics is actually the thing he's worst at.
You could argue that him being able to train 8 minigunners inside the assult transport at a time can be considered horde tactic, also the fact that his units comes with nationalism preinstalled. Or it could be just the developers didn't talk and agree on a single vision, probably also the reason why his general's challenge was scraped. I love how the Shockwave mod rectified that by allowing him to build one platoon at a time, making it actual horde tactic, a lot closer to lore lol
The Assault Transport was a more useful weapons platform IME if you offloaded the minigunners and replaced them all with rocket troopers. Mobile multiple missile carrier.
@@davidstuckey9289 A humvee with two pathfinders, 3 missile defenders, and the TOW missile upgrade would still crush it though. The difference is that you need a Generals promotion to unlock the pathfinder and the strategy center to unlock the TOW missiles. The Assault Transport not only allows infantry to fire out (unlike the standard variant,) It comes loaded with 8 minigunners for less money then it would cost to train them individually at the barracks (plus you get a cool transport to drive them around the map in.) If you spend the difference on tank hunters to round out it's frankly awesome anti-infantry/anti-air capabilities with anti vehicle support and you have a relatively inexpensive, nearly unstoppable apc that can be built immediately after building your war factory, and it's easy to see why he owns the early game. Combine that with the fact that minigunners use bullets instead of missiles which render USA countermeasures and point defense lasers impotent, and that GLA hijackers are wasted trying to capture it and you have a vehicle that's surprising viable well into the late game (assuming your opponent survives that long. Severely underrated general IMHO.
The USA fear him less, due to their Pathfinders, Ironside in particular is completely dismissive of him. To quote: _"Jarmen Kell's just another sniper, punk. I've got dozens of snipers."_
Little Tip: When you're using Tank General and your neighbor enemy is Nuke General, don't click/choose Battlemaster Elite Training. Capture the War Factory or Tank General Command Center, then choose the Battlemaster Elite Training. Both factions now can enjoy the Elite Battlemaster. Sometimes, the "Nuke" Battle Master tank can be affected by Auto-Loader, Uranium Shells, and Uranium Tanks Upgrade.
Nuke Battlemasters do not get the benefits of Autoloader, nor get the benefits of Elite Battlemaster Training. Conversely, Tank General Battlemasters do not get Uranium Shells or Nuclear Tanks upgrade unless you build a Tank General Nuclear Missile. There's a lot more to this but, the reason you cannot just capture and mix and match technologies is because of how the game treats the individual subfactions: All of them are different objects. Tank General's War Factory is not the same as Nuke General's or even Infantry General's. You'll notice when you're any of the three Generals above and you're going for Propaganda tech, like say: you built a Nuke General's Propaganda Center, you only unlock Nuke General's Propaganda tech not Infantry General's or Tank General's and not even regular China's. Yes, this game is wacky like that, and I don't agree how its built but hey Zero Hour was rushed out to release; it's not like RA2 where every Allied/Soviet faction share buildings and prerequisites.
You can definitely tell some of the Generals got more love than others, not even counting some not showing up at all in challenge, but even in hard difficulty the Air Force and Tank generals were a cake walk, meanwhile ones like the nuke general were an absolute nightmare. Think if General Kwai had some massive unique war factories just churning out battle masters that you had to destroy as well as tank bunkers like Yuri had surrounding and manned within his base so you couldn't just rush him to death? I don't know how to fix General Granger to make his base more of a proper challenge.
His planes shuld be more sturdy, relode faster, this way the plains could guard his base better, that alone would make a better challenge. Also, I find it disturbing how the super weapon general's aurora bombers are superiour to the air force generals planes at all.
@@trueredpanda1538 yeah she's the only usa general who isn't terrible and that's mainly cause while she doesn't get tanks she gets a bs varient of the patriot missiles that one shot aircraft and can stunlock any vehicle
@@marley7868 well, laser general is pretty OP for turtle strategies compared to superweapon, the range alone on the laser turrets is disqustingly funny xD
@@trueredpanda1538 maybe but his air power is worse than here's and there's nothing quite as funny as seeing a bunch of hellixs get one shot out of the sky with minimal effort
Continuing from the GLA Generals video, Fai's General's Challenge map is essentially a giant bunker, a walled-off base only accessible by a few well-guarded bridges fortified by Gatling Cannons, Bunkers, and Artillery Platforms. Resources are scarce, with every supply pile outside your base being small and essentially having no space to build a supply center next to. Fai also has a Nuclear Missile Silo that he'll use against your base.
@@alexashton6501 It was based off playing a mod that reintroduced cut content from the main game (I used ProGen), which included the Generals Challenge stages for the Demolitions and Infantry generals. But I think the mod creators used data mining as a blueprint. I believe Shockwave did more or less the same thing, but haven't played that.
@@alexashton6501 I highly reccomend Shockwave, it's essentially an expansion of Zero Hour to the max. To play against Fai in the challenges though you need to instal the Shockwave Single Player Addon. It also lets you play the campaigns with all the fun new stuff.
@@web_trekker8298 The Fai's map that shockwave singleplayer experience use is vocux version which is public on cnclabs. NProjectmod also use the same map for their infantry general challenge map.
I love with one of Tsing Shi Tao's quotes where the voice actor just barely manages to keep his chinese accent during it (sounds like he nearly goes into an aussie accent or something)
The best way to beat Kwai: Have as many artillery camping outside his base entrance. Anything that tried to leave gets obliterated before he can do a thing. Then you use his own tactic against him.
But first, how do you have secure economy and rush to his base? Camping in southwest isn't enough because Kwai pours so many elite tanks. Quick expanding to north and fishing village supply depot is also not enough because your defense become long thin and it's exhausting going back and forward. (I'm playing hard btw but even in medium it's challenging)
@@davidsugijanto6935 You need to rush and capture the oil derricks in the village and hold that damn village until you can start building hackers/supply depot/black market. For USA & China generals air vehicles helps in keeping his tanks in check. For GLA generals, terrorists and Jarmen Kell are your best friends, hijackers too if the tanks aren't elite rank. Invest as much anti tank units as you can because CMIIW IIRC Kwai doesn't really send infantry to attack you.
@@davidsugijanto6935 USA general strategy : air units (choppers ) are key to holding his endless assembly line of armor units at bay (especially true of using the Air Force Generals stealth choppers) the Lazer and Superweapon Generals defenses do a much better job countering armor units. Slowly integrate supply points to improve your economy and eventually with enough resources and superior air units you’ll be able to build a few super weapons to break through his defenses (aurora bombers work great too) His constant MiG raids are annoying but building enough Avengers units are a good counter China strategy: the initial strategy is building strong enough defenses at the three directions armor units and infantry will attack Bunkers filled with rocket solders will dispatch armor . And Gatling guns will take care of soldiers. (I favor building two full bunkers and two Gatling cannons at each point) build enough Gatling tanks to counter the constant Mig attacks and build a few ECM tanks to divert missiles Build an internet center and continue to pump out hackers to build your economy up. The Nuke Generals Overlords are a good offensive option once you gain the upper hand (Nuke cannons will decimate his defenses ) Infantry General is more tricky with a lack of heavy armor , but Nuke cannons armed with neutron shells can disable Emperor tanks and allow you to add them to your arsenal and eventually gain enough to mount an offensive counter attack GLA strategy : Building three palaces filled with rocket soldiers is key in keeping the armor units at bay , build enough quad cannons to counter infantry and Mig attacks . One of the most important units will be Jarmen Kell as his ability to disable Emperor tanks and adding them to your arsenal is key to winning. The bounty ability will have enough resources coming in with his endless rush of armor units . Build a few SCUD storms and use them to decimate his defenses at the entrance of his base . Once you accumulate enough Emperor tanks (7 or 8 will do ) rush his base and his own turned armor units will be his undoing Hope that helps
General shin Fai: proud of infantery horde but have panic to the nuclar misil. General shi tao: fanatic of nuclear misils but cause accidents your country. General kwai: proud of tank superiority but is the only that respect the supremacy of general leang. All genearls: their laughts are very funny xD
@@NostalgicGamerRickOShay Kwai is very arrogant man-child Tao is a pyscotic nuke addict fai is a crazed comedic patriotic while leang is boring arrogant patriotic
Tao might be unhinged, but he's a genius. He made a nuclear reactor small enough to fit inside a tank, he probably could turn a microwave into a radiation death ray.
@@flyingsubmarine8334 Granted, he did end the need of fuel for China's tank divisions, but I bet he left out the part about them violently detonating when knocked out.
@@flyingsubmarine8334 which isn't standard meaning it's only given if a battle is suffering because of it just saying driving those things down the countryside and suffering a mechanical failure is very likley to end you the crew and whatever patch of road your on
Great video per usual! Man, i‘m so used to playing Shockwave, i forgot how lazy some stuff from the main game was….like the minigunner having profile with an Ak-47 (def. Not a Minigun) and the model just having some extra bayonetts stuck on the rifle to simulate multiple barrels!
More so that they don't really have any coherent strategy. They just have a theme and nothing more. Kwai's bonus really is irrelevant since if a large group of battlemasters get's within range they will obliterate the target anyway. Their main issue is getting close enough. Also Fai is very quality over quantity and you have to do a very large amount of micromanagement which kind of goes against the idea.
Zero Hour was rushed. I think the most objective sign of that is that only China has their super general finished. The GLA and USA actually have super generals in the code with portraits and names and even a few lines. Though no real scenario. They just ran out of time.
Addendum: Funny how China's primary military bases are all named after the symbols of the Chinese zodiac... We got Rat(Kwai), Snake(Fai), Ox(Tao), and Tiger, or Tigress(Leang)... So where are the others?... 16:02 Best! Line! *EVER!* 🤣 19:32 "Hey, hey! Do you know how much that Nuke Silo costs!?" It's just $4500 for you, build another!... Yeah that's right, it's a 10% discount for General Tao to build Nuke Silos...
I think it would be cool if you made videos of the generals from the Shockwave mod. Only because they gain more from it, it's not really cannon, but would be cool to see. Especially the unique generals like Leang, Deathstrike and Ironside.
The Shockwave mod fixed some issues with particular generals but left others. One for infantry general is that you can't transport artillery units across water, and this especially becomes a problem against General Alexander. Would've been better if they made the Gattling APC amphibious so you could transport siege infantry inside it.
@@chloestarlightCh01 Leang iirc is the head of china's military and yeah she is the last boss in the challenge mode she doesn't have anything of her own tho but basically employee stuff from every faction
Kwai I always found obnoxious to fight against. Also I think he is one of the worst since his auto loader really doesn't do much. When a large number of Battlemasters get within range they will obliterate any target. Their main issue is their thin armor and short range which can cause them to become destroyed before they get into range. I actually think Tau has better battlemasters in that they are faster and his upgrade makes them not damage each other anymore.
@@TheOnlyDarkus Kwai really should have gotten a defensive upgrade. Fay is pretty strong though with the superhackers and super lotus can absolutely devastating if you opponent is distracted. The minigunners make him highly resistant to air attacks. Tau though kind of strong everywhere. His infantry are his weakest element and that's only cause they aren't better than vanilla. The only one who matches him in power I think is the superweapon general. Her ability take out aircraft and vehicles in pretty much one shot with her defenses and being able to buy a particle cannon for 2500 is just plain broken.
@@MrMarinus18 Fai is always nasty as his "man spam" tactic. Nevertheless, siege units will help too. Make sure Super Hackers keep away from the battlefield to keep the supplies flowing.
Autoloader essentially doesn't add that much DPS to the Battlemaster, but massively frontloads its damage output. A small group of AL Battlemasters can just outright *delete* things in a single quick salvo, minimising return fire.
Not going to lie I truly don't know why your channel all of a sudden popped up on my feed, But I must say I love your content and you have officially got me back into the mood of command and conquer :]
Still wish there were missions in ZH towards the end of the campaign that brought in each or all 3 of the faction generals as support commanders, like a cross between RA3 and/or Kane's Wrath campaigns. Just imagine a grudge match between USA & China with townes and alexander defending a U.S. base from an assault by kwai and Tao, with primary control given to the player of granger or Fei with a surprise attack by all 3 of the GLA Generals at intermittent times throughout the mission. Pure lunacy and oh so epic af...
Can’t believe I missed this video! Anywho! My favorite is Chinese faction and overall favorite pick is Nuclear General. Fast tanks right at the start. Nuclear MiG upgrade that basically lets you bomb entire vehicle and infantry battalions, almost as effective as the Super Weapons Bomber.
Feels like 10°c for the first time in an age. New girlfriend is complimenting me on my spring weather drip. Just grabbed Wendy's. On my walk home. RUclips notification. Jethild uploaded a general video on China. Hell yeah boys.
Fun fact about when facing Kwai in the challenge mode. On any difficulty higher than easy, he'll build a second nuclear silo after some time. Only problem with this is that for some reason he'll build it right on top of the first one, if it was completed the game would crash thanks to having both nuke silos occupying the same space on the map, basically giving you a time limit on assaulting his base and destroying his nuke silos.
I feel like China could’ve maybe had one more general for good measure. Like… Maybe one who specialized in Flame Based weaponry. Still pretty fun. I will say that I am also excited to see ya do the Americans (whenever ya get around to it of course).
Nice Video. I always enjoy watching Videogame Lore videos . Could you please mention deathstrike and Ironside ( The Cutted Boss Generals for GLA and USA) in your Video about leang.
By the time this game is released. All Chinese Generals used either GR or Wades Giles romanizations and not Hanyu Pinyin. Sure this game is aim to sell in ROC and it might have been banned in PRC.
You forgot to mention the two nuke trucks in the village of Tao's stronghold. If you are a gla you can make terrorists enter them and make them explode in his base causing alot of damage
Como em todos os jogos de estrategia que eu jogo eu adoro jogar com divisões blindadas então... Sou um árduo dicipulo do general Ta Hun Kwai... E nem perco meu tempo tentando construir tanques pequenos... Me defendo acumulando recursos e na hora "H"... Lanço minhas infindáveis colunas de Emperor Tanks... Lanço as dezenas e dezenas... Uma corrente infindável de destruição blindada... Simplesmente poético e... BRUTAL!!
I assume your talking about the dump truck carrying the nuke device next to the refinery? Capturing the refinery does not seem to do what you described.
Now I imagine doing mods (that has a wiki that is for information) for CnC ZH, like ROTR and Contra. Contra is basically one massive mod full of unrealistic stuff added to the vanilla generals of the three factions, but very cool.
the Vehicle right next to the Oil Refinery in General Tao's map has nuclear bomb, if you use it by using GLA terrorist it will explode like nuclear missile
Appreciate you mentioning that bit of info as I never knew about that. Someone else had made the same comment, but didn't specifically mention that you had to use a GLA terrorist to acquire the truck.
The funny thing about "anvil" Shin Fai, is that you couldn't do an infantry rush the way could as the basic China general. He also failed hard against General Thrax.
1:56 the “Taiwan Conflict”. So it appears that in this version of the world the CCP has invaded and annexed both Hong Kong and Taiwan. I wonder why China decided to ban this game in their boarders, I thought that they loved it when people denied the independence of those two.
If you install Shockwave. you gain acsess to play as ling. She is a artillery specialist She is not the final commander you face off with in the shockwave mod.
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"Only a failed general would resort to nuclear missiles." Makes me wonder how General Kwai feels about General Tao, since Tao has FIVE nuclear missile solos that he is all too happy to use.
I think he's a little freaked out by Tao tbh.
I think "failed general would resort to nuclear missiles" was a reference to General Mcarthur that planed to nuke China when UN forces were pushed back in Korea War.
@@cingkrayz1959 Yeah, he is kind of absolutely insane.
@@Kylesico912x if it weren’t for the ussr china would’ve been nuked un korea and wed only have one korea today
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I remember I'd almost always picked either the Tank or Nuke General, since it's hard to argue against a wave of Emperor Overlords, or Migs dropping mini-nukes.
The us super weapon general's emp defenses are effective against them
@@stupidumbasshithead5715 Nuke general artillery could outrange them.
Would be funny if the Super weapon general had her Tomahawks also had some EMP effect
Actually, Infantry General is strongest in MP.
Battle listnenig outposts and Helix, filled with upgraded rocketman, makking much more damage per second, then Overlorlord.
@@Goran1138 infantry could be hardblocked though. Snipers and rockets can quickly cripple your attack ,so demanding that you be offensive as quickly as possible to prevent your enemy from reacting.
@@PainRack
Each unit and strategy in C&C has their own countermeasure, and infantry general is not exeption.
But comparing with other Chineese generals, infantry general has his most effective units relatively early. and time is the most important in multiplayer games.
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The remastered faction logos are just such a sight to behold in 2022, two decades since this beloved game came out.
Agreed
The mini gunner, the first user of Vladof brand firearms, "You don't need to aim better, just fire more bullets!"
China is known for quantity over quality anyways 😆
@@Dr187 even today's
meh I go with Dahl rifles for accuracy any day and Jakobs shotguns & pistols for the punch
Maliwan, You guys shoot bullets?
It's amusing and frightening that all generals in this game are utterly insane.
I don't think it's much different from real life
I mean those soldiers are firing toxins from tractors and lasers so they likely would want insane leaders
I love the voice acting in this game. Everybody is completely unhinged!
The soundtrack of all the 3 factions is also epic.
@@obelic71 GLA soundtrack and voice lines are my favourite.
@@mkvector9539 AK47's for everyone!
Though I feel they do repeat a little too much. I kinda wish there was an option to maybe tone down the taunting. Especially Kwai and Thrax can get very obnoxious if the battle draws out.
A bit cringe if you ask me
1:20
That's really weird cause in practice his real strength is combined arms. Also his lines indicate swarms but his actual tactics are very quality over quantity. With the pricy minigunner and the expensive bunker vehicles you can't just swarm your enemy.
Despite his dialogue horde tactics is actually the thing he's worst at.
huh maybe he's bullshitting? "yes my horde will crush you" whispers "send in the spec ops"
You could argue that him being able to train 8 minigunners inside the assult transport at a time can be considered horde tactic, also the fact that his units comes with nationalism preinstalled.
Or it could be just the developers didn't talk and agree on a single vision, probably also the reason why his general's challenge was scraped.
I love how the Shockwave mod rectified that by allowing him to build one platoon at a time, making it actual horde tactic, a lot closer to lore lol
The Assault Transport was a more useful weapons platform IME if you offloaded the minigunners and replaced them all with rocket troopers. Mobile multiple missile carrier.
@@davidstuckey9289 A humvee with two pathfinders, 3 missile defenders, and the TOW missile upgrade would still crush it though. The difference is that you need a Generals promotion to unlock the pathfinder and the strategy center to unlock the TOW missiles. The Assault Transport not only allows infantry to fire out (unlike the standard variant,) It comes loaded with 8 minigunners for less money then it would cost to train them individually at the barracks (plus you get a cool transport to drive them around the map in.) If you spend the difference on tank hunters to round out it's frankly awesome anti-infantry/anti-air capabilities with anti vehicle support and you have a relatively inexpensive, nearly unstoppable apc that can be built immediately after building your war factory, and it's easy to see why he owns the early game. Combine that with the fact that minigunners use bullets instead of missiles which render USA countermeasures and point defense lasers impotent, and that GLA hijackers are wasted trying to capture it and you have a vehicle that's surprising viable well into the late game (assuming your opponent survives that long. Severely underrated general IMHO.
@@marley7868 The man was studying Sun Tzu's
I like how regardless of faction or commander, everyone feared Jarman Kell
He an expert mercenary and unlike other heros who fight for their nation, Jarmen Kell just love his job
Everyone has claimed to kill Kell, he's back again
Y'all would be afraid of a man who simply won't stay dead
The USA fear him less, due to their Pathfinders, Ironside in particular is completely dismissive of him. To quote: _"Jarmen Kell's just another sniper, punk. I've got dozens of snipers."_
Little Tip:
When you're using Tank General and your neighbor enemy is Nuke General, don't click/choose Battlemaster Elite Training. Capture the War Factory or Tank General Command Center, then choose the Battlemaster Elite Training. Both factions now can enjoy the Elite Battlemaster. Sometimes, the "Nuke" Battle Master tank can be affected by Auto-Loader, Uranium Shells, and Uranium Tanks Upgrade.
Nuke Battlemasters do not get the benefits of Autoloader, nor get the benefits of Elite Battlemaster Training.
Conversely, Tank General Battlemasters do not get Uranium Shells or Nuclear Tanks upgrade unless you build a Tank General Nuclear Missile.
There's a lot more to this but, the reason you cannot just capture and mix and match technologies is because of how the game treats the individual subfactions: All of them are different objects.
Tank General's War Factory is not the same as Nuke General's or even Infantry General's.
You'll notice when you're any of the three Generals above and you're going for Propaganda tech, like say: you built a Nuke General's Propaganda Center, you only unlock Nuke General's Propaganda tech not Infantry General's or Tank General's and not even regular China's.
Yes, this game is wacky like that, and I don't agree how its built but hey Zero Hour was rushed out to release; it's not like RA2 where every Allied/Soviet faction share buildings and prerequisites.
You can definitely tell some of the Generals got more love than others, not even counting some not showing up at all in challenge, but even in hard difficulty the Air Force and Tank generals were a cake walk, meanwhile ones like the nuke general were an absolute nightmare. Think if General Kwai had some massive unique war factories just churning out battle masters that you had to destroy as well as tank bunkers like Yuri had surrounding and manned within his base so you couldn't just rush him to death? I don't know how to fix General Granger to make his base more of a proper challenge.
His planes shuld be more sturdy, relode faster, this way the plains could guard his base better, that alone would make a better challenge. Also, I find it disturbing how the super weapon general's aurora bombers are superiour to the air force generals planes at all.
@@trueredpanda1538 yeah she's the only usa general who isn't terrible and that's mainly cause while she doesn't get tanks she gets a bs varient of the patriot missiles that one shot aircraft and can stunlock any vehicle
@@marley7868 well, laser general is pretty OP for turtle strategies compared to superweapon, the range alone on the laser turrets is disqustingly funny xD
Get rid of the extra nukes. Or a MUCH LONGER TIMER.
@@trueredpanda1538 maybe but his air power is worse than here's and there's nothing quite as funny as seeing a bunch of hellixs get one shot out of the sky with minimal effort
Continuing from the GLA Generals video, Fai's General's Challenge map is essentially a giant bunker, a walled-off base only accessible by a few well-guarded bridges fortified by Gatling Cannons, Bunkers, and Artillery Platforms. Resources are scarce, with every supply pile outside your base being small and essentially having no space to build a supply center next to. Fai also has a Nuclear Missile Silo that he'll use against your base.
Were these data mined?
@@alexashton6501 It was based off playing a mod that reintroduced cut content from the main game (I used ProGen), which included the Generals Challenge stages for the Demolitions and Infantry generals. But I think the mod creators used data mining as a blueprint. I believe Shockwave did more or less the same thing, but haven't played that.
@@RainingMetal ah cool!!! I'll have to look into the mods for Generals :)
@@alexashton6501 I highly reccomend Shockwave, it's essentially an expansion of Zero Hour to the max. To play against Fai in the challenges though you need to instal the Shockwave Single Player Addon. It also lets you play the campaigns with all the fun new stuff.
@@web_trekker8298 The Fai's map that shockwave singleplayer experience use is vocux version which is public on cnclabs.
NProjectmod also use the same map for their infantry general challenge map.
in terms of being the mad scientists in demeanor, you got tao, thrax and townes
I love with one of Tsing Shi Tao's quotes where the voice actor just barely manages to keep his chinese accent during it (sounds like he nearly goes into an aussie accent or something)
Ah yes, The Chinese Generals. Been waiting for this.
Never seem to fail to impress me with another of your vids. PLA is by far my most favorite faction. Especially Shi Tao.
Same here my team is china nuke 🙏🌟
@@Dr187 Me too! 😁😊☢️💓
His nickname sounds like "sheet out the nuke".
The best way to beat Kwai: Have as many artillery camping outside his base entrance. Anything that tried to leave gets obliterated before he can do a thing. Then you use his own tactic against him.
But first, how do you have secure economy and rush to his base? Camping in southwest isn't enough because Kwai pours so many elite tanks. Quick expanding to north and fishing village supply depot is also not enough because your defense become long thin and it's exhausting going back and forward. (I'm playing hard btw but even in medium it's challenging)
@@davidsugijanto6935 You need to rush and capture the oil derricks in the village and hold that damn village until you can start building hackers/supply depot/black market. For USA & China generals air vehicles helps in keeping his tanks in check. For GLA generals, terrorists and Jarmen Kell are your best friends, hijackers too if the tanks aren't elite rank. Invest as much anti tank units as you can because CMIIW IIRC Kwai doesn't really send infantry to attack you.
@@davidsugijanto6935 USA general strategy : air units (choppers ) are key to holding his endless assembly line of armor units at bay (especially true of using the Air Force Generals stealth choppers) the Lazer and Superweapon Generals defenses do a much better job countering armor units. Slowly integrate supply points to improve your economy and eventually with enough resources and superior air units you’ll be able to build a few super weapons to break through his defenses (aurora bombers work great too)
His constant MiG raids are annoying but building enough Avengers units are a good counter
China strategy: the initial strategy is building strong enough defenses at the three directions armor units and infantry will attack Bunkers filled with rocket solders will dispatch armor . And Gatling guns will take care of soldiers. (I favor building two full bunkers and two Gatling cannons at each point) build enough Gatling tanks to counter the constant Mig attacks and build a few ECM tanks to divert missiles
Build an internet center and continue to pump out hackers to build your economy up. The Nuke Generals Overlords are a good offensive option once you gain the upper hand (Nuke cannons will decimate his defenses )
Infantry General is more tricky with a lack of heavy armor , but Nuke cannons armed with neutron shells can disable Emperor tanks and allow you to add them to your arsenal and eventually gain enough to mount an offensive counter attack
GLA strategy : Building three palaces filled with rocket soldiers is key in keeping the armor units at bay , build enough quad cannons to counter infantry and Mig attacks . One of the most important units will be Jarmen Kell as his ability to disable Emperor tanks and adding them to your arsenal is key to winning. The bounty ability will have enough resources coming in with his endless rush of armor units . Build a few SCUD storms and use them to decimate his defenses at the entrance of his base . Once you accumulate enough Emperor tanks (7 or 8 will do ) rush his base and his own turned armor units will be his undoing
Hope that helps
Me as Prince Kassad: *Let's go car shopping!*
@@davidsugijanto6935 Rush and fortify NW, take it or leave it
General shin Fai: proud of infantery horde but have panic to the nuclar misil.
General shi tao: fanatic of nuclear misils but cause accidents your country.
General kwai: proud of tank superiority but is the only that respect the supremacy of general leang.
All genearls: their laughts are very funny xD
The tank general was more annoying than funny.
@@NostalgicGamerRickOShay Kwai is very arrogant man-child Tao is a pyscotic nuke addict fai is a crazed comedic patriotic while leang is boring arrogant patriotic
I wouldn't trust Shi Tao near a microwave let alone a nuclear warhead.
Tao might be unhinged, but he's a genius. He made a nuclear reactor small enough to fit inside a tank, he probably could turn a microwave into a radiation death ray.
@@flyingsubmarine8334 Granted, he did end the need of fuel for China's tank divisions, but I bet he left out the part about them violently detonating when knocked out.
@@CommissarTommy22 That's why he has Isotope Stability
@@flyingsubmarine8334 which isn't standard meaning it's only given if a battle is suffering because of it just saying driving those things down the countryside and suffering a mechanical failure is very likley to end you the crew and whatever patch of road your on
Loving the work put into these videos that's easy to follow and interesting
👍🏻
Love you stuff Jethild, its always good content and amazing quality can tell you put alot of work into it :)
The glow!! The wonderful glooow!!
- GENERAL TAO
The legend is back with another masterpiece
Woohoo!
I love the voice acting of general Kwai.
Please never stop making these videos
This is quality work! Great job man!
Great video per usual!
Man, i‘m so used to playing Shockwave, i forgot how lazy some stuff from the main game was….like the minigunner having profile with an Ak-47 (def. Not a Minigun) and the model just having some extra bayonetts stuck on the rifle to simulate multiple barrels!
More so that they don't really have any coherent strategy. They just have a theme and nothing more.
Kwai's bonus really is irrelevant since if a large group of battlemasters get's within range they will obliterate the target anyway. Their main issue is getting close enough. Also Fai is very quality over quantity and you have to do a very large amount of micromanagement which kind of goes against the idea.
Zero Hour was rushed.
I think the most objective sign of that is that only China has their super general finished. The GLA and USA actually have super generals in the code with portraits and names and even a few lines. Though no real scenario. They just ran out of time.
yeah the usa generals can't use tanks the usa is incapable of having a high level general use a tank some shit was clearly just not done
Also, the minigunner animation is exactly the same as the standard infantry one
God damn beautiful to see Command and Conquer get the love it deserves.
Found your channel yesterday and I can't stop watching
Addendum:
Funny how China's primary military bases are all named after the symbols of the Chinese zodiac... We got Rat(Kwai), Snake(Fai), Ox(Tao), and Tiger, or Tigress(Leang)... So where are the others?...
16:02 Best! Line! *EVER!* 🤣
19:32 "Hey, hey! Do you know how much that Nuke Silo costs!?"
It's just $4500 for you, build another!... Yeah that's right, it's a 10% discount for General Tao to build Nuke Silos...
Cheers!!! I never known that names are Chinese zodiacs!!!
@@markanthonyorine1699well no, but their bases do share their names with a member of the zodiac
Loving these lore and analysis videos! A ton of work went into these.
General shin fai is my favourite tbh i just spam a bunch of infantry and i absolutely love it
Keep it coming man. Loving this! :)
Yaya new Video! Absolutely lovin' the generals lore.
Thanks for your hardwork Jethild!
These videos always make my day and I also learn something new about the C&C games that I never noticed before!
Each of these Generals videos is such a great pleasure to watch! :)
I love how all of them are afraid by jarmen, the sniper really has a scary reputation
Also deadly.
He is pretty much the Simho Hayha (The deadly Finnish marksman from ww2) of the Generals universe
@@wazzzup2579 indeed he is. Indeed he is.
Again, fantastic work, can't wait for more.
I love fighting against Kwai the most because he is unable to build any artillery.
Amazing work jethild!
Every day you post a video is a great day!
General Kwai was the most fun on higher difficulty bcs of all the tanks battle in the middle of the field 😂
I think it would be cool if you made videos of the generals from the Shockwave mod. Only because they gain more from it, it's not really cannon, but would be cool to see. Especially the unique generals like Leang, Deathstrike and Ironside.
Isn't Leang the Boss general in the base game?
@@chloestarlightCh01 she is. If you beat like 6 or 7 other generals
The Shockwave mod fixed some issues with particular generals but left others.
One for infantry general is that you can't transport artillery units across water, and this especially becomes a problem against General Alexander. Would've been better if they made the Gattling APC amphibious so you could transport siege infantry inside it.
@@chloestarlightCh01 Leang iirc is the head of china's military and yeah she is the last boss in the challenge mode she doesn't have anything of her own tho but basically employee stuff from every faction
Fai: Are you ready to face my horde, General?
Me with some Pathfinders: Yes
Great video as always keep up the great work
The way you presented Super Hackers got me dying
Oh man this brings back so many good memories of late nights with friends Is throwing nucular weapons at each other
General Tao Gaming
Dr. Thrax gaming
Where is my time machine!?!?!?
Nuke gaming
Laser Gaming
General Tai Gaming.
Kwai I always found obnoxious to fight against. Also I think he is one of the worst since his auto loader really doesn't do much. When a large number of Battlemasters get within range they will obliterate any target. Their main issue is their thin armor and short range which can cause them to become destroyed before they get into range.
I actually think Tau has better battlemasters in that they are faster and his upgrade makes them not damage each other anymore.
True, Tao is even better than Kwai. Of course Kwai doesn't need siege units.
@@TheOnlyDarkus Kwai really should have gotten a defensive upgrade.
Fay is pretty strong though with the superhackers and super lotus can absolutely devastating if you opponent is distracted. The minigunners make him highly resistant to air attacks.
Tau though kind of strong everywhere. His infantry are his weakest element and that's only cause they aren't better than vanilla. The only one who matches him in power I think is the superweapon general. Her ability take out aircraft and vehicles in pretty much one shot with her defenses and being able to buy a particle cannon for 2500 is just plain broken.
@@MrMarinus18 Fai is always nasty as his "man spam" tactic. Nevertheless, siege units will help too. Make sure Super Hackers keep away from the battlefield to keep the supplies flowing.
Autoloader essentially doesn't add that much DPS to the Battlemaster, but massively frontloads its damage output. A small group of AL Battlemasters can just outright *delete* things in a single quick salvo, minimising return fire.
@@magni5648 A small number though usually get's obliterated before they get within range.
Love it
Keep up the good work❤️
Not going to lie I truly don't know why your channel all of a sudden popped up on my feed, But I must say I love your content and you have officially got me back into the mood of command and conquer :]
General Tsing Shi Tao sounds like a Child of Atom who found himself in the wrong game.
These videos are amazing. This game is so nostalgic for me and still holds up.
At last, new lore vid!
Still wish there were missions in ZH towards the end of the campaign that brought in each or all 3 of the faction generals as support commanders, like a cross between RA3 and/or Kane's Wrath campaigns. Just imagine a grudge match between USA & China with townes and alexander defending a U.S. base from an assault by kwai and Tao, with primary control given to the player of granger or Fei with a surprise attack by all 3 of the GLA Generals at intermittent times throughout the mission. Pure lunacy and oh so epic af...
Can't wait to see USA Generals overview. I think I just made the right decision to subscribe to this channel. Keep up the good work 👍
Western Alliance in Germany. Was it really USA as faction in the US?
@@bertibenemoth5356 The US and the USA are the same my friend
Can’t believe I missed this video! Anywho! My favorite is Chinese faction and overall favorite pick is Nuclear General. Fast tanks right at the start. Nuclear MiG upgrade that basically lets you bomb entire vehicle and infantry battalions, almost as effective as the Super Weapons Bomber.
Feels like 10°c for the first time in an age.
New girlfriend is complimenting me on my spring weather drip.
Just grabbed Wendy's.
On my walk home.
RUclips notification.
Jethild uploaded a general video on China.
Hell yeah boys.
What an interesting set of videos. You make China sound like an interesting rather than fictional county.
I can't wait for Lin's video
Fun fact about when facing Kwai in the challenge mode. On any difficulty higher than easy, he'll build a second nuclear silo after some time. Only problem with this is that for some reason he'll build it right on top of the first one, if it was completed the game would crash thanks to having both nuke silos occupying the same space on the map, basically giving you a time limit on assaulting his base and destroying his nuke silos.
I feel like China could’ve maybe had one more general for good measure. Like… Maybe one who specialized in Flame Based weaponry. Still pretty fun. I will say that I am also excited to see ya do the Americans (whenever ya get around to it of course).
Artillery General!
I’m pretty sure there’s a Mod for this which also has some sort of USA Armor General
@@giygas9305 in other version the USA tank general is called Assault General and have the ability to build M1 Abrams
Dude, love your videos
Nice Video. I always enjoy watching Videogame Lore videos . Could you please mention deathstrike and Ironside ( The Cutted Boss Generals for GLA and USA) in your Video about leang.
You are doing great, waiting for USA parts too
Thanks for this. This right here is my childhood.
Huh, so that's where Xiurong Wu's voice from Mental Omega came from. Using Shin Fai's voice clips.
By the time this game is released. All Chinese Generals used either GR or Wades Giles romanizations and not Hanyu Pinyin. Sure this game is aim to sell in ROC and it might have been banned in PRC.
keep up the good work ^^
Good memories of challenges from my childhood heh.
11:39
Thats Nuke from CSGO LOL
I fkcing love your videos man!
9:45 I þink, Fai dismisses abit þe circumstance, þat anthrax is a weapon most damaging towards .... infantry.
I absolutely hate that they never completed the infantry challenge campaign
thank EA and well lets be fair the game engine is poop
A new video. China has been generous!
You forgot to mention the two nuke trucks in the village of Tao's stronghold. If you are a gla you can make terrorists enter them and make them explode in his base causing alot of damage
Ohh I never knew!
Como em todos os jogos de estrategia que eu jogo eu adoro jogar com divisões blindadas então...
Sou um árduo dicipulo do general Ta Hun Kwai...
E nem perco meu tempo tentando construir tanques pequenos...
Me defendo acumulando recursos e na hora "H"...
Lanço minhas infindáveis colunas de Emperor Tanks...
Lanço as dezenas e dezenas...
Uma corrente infindável de destruição blindada...
Simplesmente poético e... BRUTAL!!
I'm just imagining hearing Shin Fei off in the distance screaming "NUCLEAR MISSILE APPROCHING! FLEE!" He reminds me of a Unggoy
Tao was the most "complete" general of China in this game. It basicly had everything the base version had and nuclear power to boot.
Another epic video. Yet, I'm still waiting for overview of US Forces and US Generals (since I usually play as General Townes).
This video gave me +15 social credit
I love how fai reacts to a nuke being launched I like to think that he was traumatized by Tao
I loved the Tactical Nuke MiGs and Nuke Helix ♥️
he forgot to mention that he can get a the truck with the nuke when capturing the refinery in general tao's village.
I assume your talking about the dump truck carrying the nuke device next to the refinery? Capturing the refinery does not seem to do what you described.
@@Jethild you can apparently claim it when playing GLA.
Now I imagine doing mods (that has a wiki that is for information) for CnC ZH, like ROTR and Contra.
Contra is basically one massive mod full of unrealistic stuff added to the vanilla generals of the three factions, but very cool.
I've never clicked so fast for a video
I always played Shockwave mod just to see the complete Zero Hour Vanilla removed contents.
Every Generals have unique units and base structures.
Great Video
Anvil was never i challenge nor you do hear his voice like this
the Vehicle right next to the Oil Refinery in General Tao's map has nuclear bomb, if you use it by using GLA terrorist it will explode like nuclear missile
Appreciate you mentioning that bit of info as I never knew about that. Someone else had made the same comment, but didn't specifically mention that you had to use a GLA terrorist to acquire the truck.
A tactical nuclear car bomb...
Dayum, terrorists these days are crazy...
*laughs in Dr. Thrax*
*also laughs at various infantry toxin death sounds while spraying countless more infantry with anthrax gamma*
The funny thing about "anvil" Shin Fai, is that you couldn't do an infantry rush the way could as the basic China general. He also failed hard against General Thrax.
Get your "anything that has a microchip in it" while you can, Pacific War 2 Sino boogaloo incoming.
1:56 the “Taiwan Conflict”. So it appears that in this version of the world the CCP has invaded and annexed both Hong Kong and Taiwan. I wonder why China decided to ban this game in their boarders, I thought that they loved it when people denied the independence of those two.
Yay! New Lore!
The nuke general is basically dr thrax but with has a good looking glowing to him
I always like being able to make enough tanks to flatten anything in my wake.
If you install Shockwave. you gain acsess to play as ling. She is a artillery specialist She is not the final commander you face off with in the shockwave mod.
This lore is very useful of yours thanks for the tips i really dont know what does 3 general but thx
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