Hmm.. Actually depends MSRP prices of rx 6600 and 3060 is the same. Retailers and scalpers makes the 3060 expensive. But this is not nvidias fault. 3060 is a better gpu 330€ The 6600xt what is the same in performance cost 370€ in msrp But maybe you could find at the same price of the 3060 in the high end maybe radeon was cheaper than nvidia. But in low range and mid range things never was that simple.
This(HD4870) is a mid-range GPU, from 2007 to 2015 AMD's mid-range GPUs competed with Nvidia's high-end due to having a better architecture, which is why AMD GPUs were cheaper as well, but people still bought Nvidia regardless.
Still you need to upgrade the cpu to at least a 6th gen i7 or i5 to ensure no bottle necking because older and weak cpus such as a old ass 9th gen or lower i3 can often severely limit modern gpus and even ancient ones so yeah if you want the videos to be as factual as possible it is a necessary requirement to upgrade the cpu
I vaguely remember there being a known issue with dx10 tarascale and gtav. If I am remembering correctly moded drivers brought in the gtav fix but where really anoying to install in w10. I do not know if Amernime zone drivers where released for dx10 tarascale yet they may be easier to install.
3:25 there is an option in afterburner for AMD cards "Extend official overclocking limits". Check that option and you should be able to overclock it as far as you can.
But yeah its not just framerates the i3 or a low end cpu without hyperthreading will effect it will also effect frame times too so yea if you can i would strongly recommend upgrading your setup that you are using for older cards
This Card right here Even though it's old Do 4 way Crossfire That's why there's 2 spots For crossfire bridges You would probably have to have A motherboard and a case that could support it But with anything This video card is probably suited 2 games That the card supported But crossfire Is definitely better on older gamesBut it's a lot of energyAnd a lot of heat But it's fun
This is a mid-range GPU, from 2007 to 2015 AMD's mid-range GPUs competed with Nvidia's high-end due to having a better architecture, which is why AMD GPUs were cheaper as well, but people still bought Nvidia regardless.
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Love to see these old high end which I was not even able to buy that time. Even that I can afford the rtxs now, I see that some may agree with me that the fun part is not always having all those recent tech... If you know what I mean
Back in 2008 I wish I Purchased a HD4870. I purchased a HD 4850 because I had an extreme deal I could not turn down when I bought my asus hd 4850 reference model for just 130$. To put that into perspective the full retail price was 200$, a common sale price was 170$, which meant the 130$ deal was an extreme deal for a card that was only out for 2.5 months when I purchased it. The HD 4850 even at retail was still seen as the better bang for your buck over the HD4870 though, as the HD4870 was 20-25% faster, but 33% more money (200$ vs 300$), Boy have things changed.
I remember how "advanced" I felt buying 1Gb version in 2008 and finally being "able to run Crysis", haha Now rocking AMD's 24Gb cousin. How time has changed...
Your launch charts only tell a partial story. The HD4870 512mb was pretty much on par with the launch GTX260. However, when it hit the 512mb it tanked and at the time ATI's drivers flatout sucked. They were improving but still had problems. ATI very quickly followed up with a 1GB version and Nvidia immediately increased the shaders on the GTX260 releasing the core 216 version giving it a slight edge. Depending on retailer very quickly after launch both original cards pretty much price matched each other give or take. Personally I went with the 4870 and a mate went with the 260. Ended up switching to a second hand 260 after a year when my card died for a second time just outside the warranty period.
I don't think it's totally useless e-waste. It is actually better than modern graphics card in two scenarios: - windows xp machine. Yes, you can get a modern nvidia (up to gtx 960) or AMD (up to r9 290) card for that, but it's not a good idea. Drivers compatibility doesn't ensure compatibility with old games engines, and in most cases, the older the graphics card, the better. These terascale AMDs are a sweetspot between old and powerful, so they are mostly compatible with older windows xp games but also blow away older graphics card in terms of performance. - gaming and emulation on a CRT: that card is compatible with emudriver, so you can run custom drivers to output 240p to an old CRT tv or monitor and build and have an arcade-like experience. You can also do that with an r5 240, but this one even has S-video output, which is high quality and can be really convenient. It's also probably the last and most powerful card to have it too.
I *did* buy it. But I bought it for a retro Windows XP build! It's amazing too :3 I paired it with a Phenom II X4 965 BE and a CPU loop with a Black Ice Nemesis GTX Mini 92mm and a weird modified case from an old prebuilt :3 I'm waiting on my second card right now so I can put them in crossfire for real overkill
The original F.E.A.R., Far cry 1, Far Cry 2, S. T. A. L. K. E. R. (both games), basically any of the games I wanted to play at the time but ran like shit on my machine run flawlessly now
Oh that sounds awesome, especially with the crossfire, always wanted a sli/corssfire setup. On a similar note, I want to build a maxxed out lga 775 system, gonna have to wait until the next yt check though.
I'm doing something similar, except it's my old Athlon II X2 245 and HD 4850 from back in the day, plus an additional 4850 and a SB X-Fi Fatal1ty to make it a bit more interesting. I would recommend you look into getting a period Creative sound card such as Audigy 2, or maybe ideally an X-Fi. It shouldn't be expensive, and hardware accelerated 3D audio via EAX is one of the few benefits of running XP, besides nostalgia. A surprising number of big games had support, from Doom 3 to San Andreas and Mass Effect.
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Still waiting for that r5 240 review
I have a similar card I'm trying to repair currently, It's comin down the pipeline
@@Jaindike now thats what you call a Tech RUclipsr.
Love ya
"Nvidia was faster but AMD had better prices" nothing has changed since then.
Hmm.. Actually depends
MSRP prices of rx 6600 and 3060 is the same.
Retailers and scalpers makes the 3060 expensive.
But this is not nvidias fault.
3060 is a better gpu
330€
The 6600xt what is the same in performance
cost 370€ in msrp
But maybe you could find at the same price of the 3060
in the high end maybe radeon was cheaper than nvidia.
But in low range and mid range things never was that simple.
Except for super computing GPU space. This time around AMD keeps the first place, I've heard.
This(HD4870) is a mid-range GPU, from 2007 to 2015 AMD's mid-range GPUs competed with Nvidia's high-end due to having a better architecture, which is why AMD GPUs were cheaper as well, but people still bought Nvidia regardless.
No is a high end not a mid range@@rattlehead999
@@rattlehead999mid range is 4850
Love the content man! You deserve a lot more views! Love seeing what older hardware is capable given the right push, or shove in most cases LOL
Shoved to their limit, lol. And thank you!
Just want to mention, the HD4870 was the first to use GDDR5... its a pretty significant card. Cool content too, thanks.
Glad you liked it!
Still you need to upgrade the cpu to at least a 6th gen i7 or i5 to ensure no bottle necking because older and weak cpus such as a old ass 9th gen or lower i3 can often severely limit modern gpus and even ancient ones so yeah if you want the videos to be as factual as possible it is a necessary requirement to upgrade the cpu
100% Agree. But even a 6th gen setup isn't really in my budget. Gonna try getting a 4th gen i7 to put in the current test bench
I vaguely remember there being a known issue with dx10 tarascale and gtav. If I am remembering correctly moded drivers brought in the gtav fix but where really anoying to install in w10. I do not know if Amernime zone drivers where released for dx10 tarascale yet they may be easier to install.
Didn't know that! Never tried modded drivers before but I definitely will
3:25 there is an option in afterburner for AMD cards "Extend official overclocking limits". Check that option and you should be able to overclock it as far as you can.
Didn't know that! Thank you
But yeah its not just framerates the i3 or a low end cpu without hyperthreading will effect it will also effect frame times too so yea if you can i would strongly recommend upgrading your setup that you are using for older cards
This Card right here Even though it's old
Do 4 way Crossfire
That's why there's 2 spots For crossfire bridges You would probably have to have A motherboard and a case that could support it But with anything This video card is probably suited 2 games That the card supported But crossfire Is definitely better on older gamesBut it's a lot of energyAnd a lot of heat But it's fun
I so want to try a crossfire setup! I just lack a motherboard with multiple pcie lanes at the moment
This is a mid-range GPU, from 2007 to 2015 AMD's mid-range GPUs competed with Nvidia's high-end due to having a better architecture, which is why AMD GPUs were cheaper as well, but people still bought Nvidia regardless.
I think this would be really good for like a retro windows xp gaming pc or something. If your into that kind of thing.
The 730 has the same price according to him and still has xp drivers. It also consumes way less power.
@@pessoaanonima6345 that's true, I guess its good for the people that feels nostalgic for these old gpus
awe, makes me miss my HD6570 :')
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Can you test a game called no room in hell please when your benchmarking GPUs it's free on steam
Will look into it!
Love to see these old high end which I was not even able to buy that time. Even that I can afford the rtxs now, I see that some may agree with me that the fun part is not always having all those recent tech... If you know what I mean
I still remember when this Legendary card came out. It was a massive leap in term of Power/Price/Performance at $299 USD. It made Nvidia scrambling.
I have a Firepro V8750, which is like a 2 GB 4870. I still have to test it out.
I do really want to check out more of the firepro series. Had a v5800 pro but it died
Direct X versions mirror how graphics technology progression has slowed since the 90's and 2000's.
I noticed that to. Was interesting
This was my first ATI video card, the RAM fell off due to insanely high temps when gaming. Was the last ATI card i ever used lol
That's actually hilarious lmao.
Back in 2008 I wish I Purchased a HD4870. I purchased a HD 4850 because I had an extreme deal I could not turn down when I bought my asus hd 4850 reference model for just 130$. To put that into perspective the full retail price was 200$, a common sale price was 170$, which meant the 130$ deal was an extreme deal for a card that was only out for 2.5 months when I purchased it.
The HD 4850 even at retail was still seen as the better bang for your buck over the HD4870 though, as the HD4870 was 20-25% faster, but 33% more money (200$ vs 300$),
Boy have things changed.
I've never heard anything so stupid
@@warmage247 Go out more then, bro
4:20 works better than with the gt 640 this days.
I guess that's a win? Honestly I'd still prefer the 640 due to dx support
Good video. Now we need a 5870 review for comparison.
Thanks! Will see if it can get one for cheap
I went with the HD 4850x2 back then. I loved that card
I remember 3DGameMan when I hear this card.
Why no Crysis???? Or Crysis Warhead?
Uhh I forgot
Ati had a different vision than AMD.
bruh
I have the 4870 with 2GB of vram. GTA V runs fine - about 30fps at 1080p - but uses ~1.5gb of vram.
I remember how "advanced" I felt buying 1Gb version in 2008 and finally being "able to run Crysis", haha
Now rocking AMD's 24Gb cousin. How time has changed...
hi could you overclock a gt630
Will see if I can get one cheap. I do have a video on the 620 though!
Should have tested with 4870 1gig even back then 1 gig did better
Yeah.. I definitely want to do a video on one
Dx11? Wtf?
Your launch charts only tell a partial story. The HD4870 512mb was pretty much on par with the launch GTX260. However, when it hit the 512mb it tanked and at the time ATI's drivers flatout sucked. They were improving but still had problems. ATI very quickly followed up with a 1GB version and Nvidia immediately increased the shaders on the GTX260 releasing the core 216 version giving it a slight edge. Depending on retailer very quickly after launch both original cards pretty much price matched each other give or take.
Personally I went with the 4870 and a mate went with the 260. Ended up switching to a second hand 260 after a year when my card died for a second time just outside the warranty period.
Uso uma dessas com CRTemudriver ligada em um TV CRT!
You don’t need to shout.
Got a specific timestamp? I've gotten more reach with this style after switching
@@Jaindike Mainly at the beginning.
1680x1050 is max res for this gpu
Yeah.. these cards werent really built with 1080p in mind
I don't think it's totally useless e-waste. It is actually better than modern graphics card in two scenarios:
- windows xp machine. Yes, you can get a modern nvidia (up to gtx 960) or AMD (up to r9 290) card for that, but it's not a good idea. Drivers compatibility doesn't ensure compatibility with old games engines, and in most cases, the older the graphics card, the better. These terascale AMDs are a sweetspot between old and powerful, so they are mostly compatible with older windows xp games but also blow away older graphics card in terms of performance.
- gaming and emulation on a CRT: that card is compatible with emudriver, so you can run custom drivers to output 240p to an old CRT tv or monitor and build and have an arcade-like experience. You can also do that with an r5 240, but this one even has S-video output, which is high quality and can be really convenient. It's also probably the last and most powerful card to have it too.
I *did* buy it. But I bought it for a retro Windows XP build! It's amazing too :3 I paired it with a Phenom II X4 965 BE and a CPU loop with a Black Ice Nemesis GTX Mini 92mm and a weird modified case from an old prebuilt :3 I'm waiting on my second card right now so I can put them in crossfire for real overkill
The original F.E.A.R., Far cry 1, Far Cry 2, S. T. A. L. K. E. R. (both games), basically any of the games I wanted to play at the time but ran like shit on my machine run flawlessly now
Oh that sounds awesome, especially with the crossfire, always wanted a sli/corssfire setup. On a similar note, I want to build a maxxed out lga 775 system, gonna have to wait until the next yt check though.
I'm doing something similar, except it's my old Athlon II X2 245 and HD 4850 from back in the day, plus an additional 4850 and a SB X-Fi Fatal1ty to make it a bit more interesting.
I would recommend you look into getting a period Creative sound card such as Audigy 2, or maybe ideally an X-Fi. It shouldn't be expensive, and hardware accelerated 3D audio via EAX is one of the few benefits of running XP, besides nostalgia. A surprising number of big games had support, from Doom 3 to San Andreas and Mass Effect.
Can you add pubg next time pls
Won't run, the 4870 doesn't support dx11
@@Jaindike ok thx alot
Man, get a pop filter or move the microphone away from your mouth.
I have 2 pop filters. And I use a plugin to remove plosives. Think I just dont know how to record good audio