At first I thought Tywin offered Arya the food out of some sort of kindness. But then I realized he just watched a man die to poison so he only offered Arya that meal as a guinea pig to make sure the food isn’t also poisoned lmao
I mean to be fair, he also tells her to eat what she wants as she brings food back to the kitchen, so he's DOES offer food out of kindness at the end of the scene, so I wouldn't say he's ONLY offering the meal as a guinea pig. Tywin's not a good person, but he's not a mustache twirling villain. Tywin respects intelligence, and as he even says in this very episode he likes Arya. He has zero reason to lie, considering we see him answering her pretty honestly in other episodes when he answers questions about his father, or talks about Jamie struggling to read.
@ oh yeah definitely, he definitely really likes Arya and 100% tells her to eat what she wants in the kitchen out of his own form of kindness. But letting her eat a meal that was *made* for him was definitely making sure there wasn’t any poison. like you said he isnt a good man, even though he likes and respects Arya, he’d have no problem letting her die to poison if it meant saving himself.
@@consistentlystupid4726Being sincere and mixing honest answers with lies is what actually makes a good liar. And we know he IS a liar: he posed as an ally to Aerys Targaryen but pillaged the city once the doors opened. He's not a man of honor, he does whatever it takes to win and that includes killing, raping and lying. He says it in the very first scene he's in too: "a lion doesn't concern itself with the opinion of the sheeps". he is not a mustache twirling villain indeed, but he's definitely an opportunist and lying is not beneath him.
The interactions between Arya and Tywin are genuinely some of my most unexpected favorite moments in the series. For a scene that doesn't involve imminent physical danger, the scenes manage to create a remarkable amount of tension with regards to Arya potentially being discovered. It also offers a wonderful glimpse into Tywin's motivations, and character while his guard is more relaxed.
Man o man my only wish from Tywin and Arya's brilliant interactions is that he somehow found out down the line that he had her as his cup bearer...would have loved to see his reaction 😂😂😂
Yeah Theon is an idiot, but he’s also a very realistic human individual who’s clearly internally and externally being pulled in multiple directions (Starks or Greyjoys, good or bad, honor or treachery). George RR Martin is a master at writing characters and his characters easily would’ve been written as a one note bad guy by lesser writers
I remember when I read the books the first time how much I hated Theon in the first two books. People who read all 5 books already told me that I'll love him in the later books and I said "No way! That's impossible"! Well, I was wrong. GRRM is a genius at writing characters!
Tywin is very very smart, but he´s not psychic. There is no way for him to know for sure that she is actually *the* Arya Stark because he has never seen Arya Stark in person. Even Littlefinger didnt know for sure, but likely saw Catelyns features in her. But the fact that Tywin figured out that Arya was both a northener and nobility just from a handful of conversations with her shows why he´s so feared.
The way Littlefinger’s eyes were following Arya in that scene convinces me that he knew tbf. Let’s not forget they’ve interacted before. Arya asked why people call him Littlefinger back in season 1 at the tourney, and he explained. He said nothing to Tywin because “knowledge is power”
I don’t think Littlefinger knew. If he did he would have definitely used it to ingratiate himself with Tywin. There’s no way he clocks that and doesn’t say anything. I think part of it is that noblemen don’t really look at commoners in this world. They’re inconsequential to them and are only around to perform tasks. He also would never expect to see Arya there with Tywin so I don’t think it registered in his brain.
Also Arya is said to strongly take after the Stark side of the family (she and Jon are said to be two children that look purely Stark) so Littlefinger would not see a resemblance to Cat.
@@SusanbVT555 Wrong on every count. Good lord. He didn't need to integrate himself with Tywin right then. Telling Tywin gives the Lanniters another hostage and would end the war with the starks quicker, ending the chaos faster that Littlefinger needs. And we literally SEE him recognize Arya. He does a double take. Then he looks closer and smirks. And then when he talks about Catelyns DAUGHTER he looks right at her. You need to use your head
Ser Roddrick's words are coming home to haunt Theon. "You are TRULY lost". And you can see the moment where Theon realized he was lost. And it makes even more sense in the books where he, Robb & Jon are all just like 15. Almost men, but still children. See, the little boy Theon just saw it all as a game to be played. Family rivalries going on for centuries in these funny tales. But the man Theon had seen what he had done to those farm boys and he was horrified at who he had just become. Keep this mindset of Theon's moving forward. It's about to get pretty interesting.
One thing about this episode that likely remains true from book to show is that those two Orphan/millers boys is heavily alluded to as being Theons own sons as he had relations with the millers wife. Theon likely had his own sons tortured and killed.
25:32 "and they were just orphans!" - In the books it's implied that those two kids were actually Theon's own children, because he had a affair with their mother.
I never really bought that theory - given Theon's age, and the approximate age of the kids, you've got to *really* push the envelope to make that timeline work.
You've probably been told this 1000 times by now, but in case you haven't, It Harrington (Jon Snow) and Rose Leslie (Ygritte) are now married in real life.
"Do you know what legacy means? It's what you pass down to your children, and your *children's children*" Can't believe I've never caught the double meaning before, if only Tywin knew how accurate he really was with that statement 😂
28:00 imagine meeting your favorite team and taking a knee before them in person and swearing an oath of fealty before the whole court, tons of witnesses. And after you do, your entire family is beholden to that, and BOOKS are written to teach people about your family and who you are sworn loyal to, that's where their brainspace was
Getting bludgeoned to death sounds horrible, but getting bludgeoned to near death only for it to take an hour or more to actually have the brain shut off would be worse
I don't believe that. He very much did a show about this reveal and even pointed towards the wall where the corpses were pulled up. I just he had a moment of realization of what he is doing and has done and how it's all slipping out of his control
You’re spot on about Theon. He has major abandonment issues and is desperately trying to win his Father’s approval. He isn’t behaving rationally and has lost sight of who was really there for him for the last decade or so. He doesn’t really even know who his Father is and if he did he probably wouldn’t like or respect him after being raised by the Starks.
I hate how they made Shae seem like a good person or a “real one” like they said. In the books she was nothing but a user, and liar. She never helped anyone.
Shae was such an annoying character in the books. She's far more interesting in this version. Martin thought so as well, apparently. He said that if he'd had it to do over again, he would have written her as a fuller, more interesting character, more like she is in the show.
Not trying to give spoilers but Theon has the most incredible character arc (and there will be many wild ones) in this entire series. Trust me when I say that by the end of the series you'll be in his corner.
When you hear(as a man), you need but a cabin and a bit ofb space, and you can find... a woman who will keep you warm in the winter...you dream...you wonder❤...and know❤you born at the wrong time 😢#Dobetter
Goddamn. Charles Dance is such a commanding force on screen.
Which makes his bloopers all the funnier. Even the best may fumble now and then.
At first I thought Tywin offered Arya the food out of some sort of kindness. But then I realized he just watched a man die to poison so he only offered Arya that meal as a guinea pig to make sure the food isn’t also poisoned lmao
I mean to be fair, he also tells her to eat what she wants as she brings food back to the kitchen, so he's DOES offer food out of kindness at the end of the scene, so I wouldn't say he's ONLY offering the meal as a guinea pig. Tywin's not a good person, but he's not a mustache twirling villain. Tywin respects intelligence, and as he even says in this very episode he likes Arya. He has zero reason to lie, considering we see him answering her pretty honestly in other episodes when he answers questions about his father, or talks about Jamie struggling to read.
@ oh yeah definitely, he definitely really likes Arya and 100% tells her to eat what she wants in the kitchen out of his own form of kindness. But letting her eat a meal that was *made* for him was definitely making sure there wasn’t any poison. like you said he isnt a good man, even though he likes and respects Arya, he’d have no problem letting her die to poison if it meant saving himself.
@@TheLevitatingFleemexactly. He likes Arya, but he likes living more.
@@consistentlystupid4726Being sincere and mixing honest answers with lies is what actually makes a good liar. And we know he IS a liar: he posed as an ally to Aerys Targaryen but pillaged the city once the doors opened. He's not a man of honor, he does whatever it takes to win and that includes killing, raping and lying. He says it in the very first scene he's in too: "a lion doesn't concern itself with the opinion of the sheeps".
he is not a mustache twirling villain indeed, but he's definitely an opportunist and lying is not beneath him.
Nice catch. I never noticed that
The interactions between Arya and Tywin are genuinely some of my most unexpected favorite moments in the series. For a scene that doesn't involve imminent physical danger, the scenes manage to create a remarkable amount of tension with regards to Arya potentially being discovered. It also offers a wonderful glimpse into Tywin's motivations, and character while his guard is more relaxed.
Agreed, definitely some of my favorite scenes in the entire show.
Every Tywin scene is top tier Thrones.
Man o man my only wish from Tywin and Arya's brilliant interactions is that he somehow found out down the line that he had her as his cup bearer...would have loved to see his reaction 😂😂😂
Yeah Theon is an idiot, but he’s also a very realistic human individual who’s clearly internally and externally being pulled in multiple directions (Starks or Greyjoys, good or bad, honor or treachery). George RR Martin is a master at writing characters and his characters easily would’ve been written as a one note bad guy by lesser writers
I remember when I read the books the first time how much I hated Theon in the first two books.
People who read all 5 books already told me that I'll love him in the later books and I said "No way! That's impossible"!
Well, I was wrong. GRRM is a genius at writing characters!
"This is a diabolical form of cahoots" lol
Tywin is very very smart, but he´s not psychic. There is no way for him to know for sure that she is actually *the* Arya Stark because he has never seen Arya Stark in person. Even Littlefinger didnt know for sure, but likely saw Catelyns features in her. But the fact that Tywin figured out that Arya was both a northener and nobility just from a handful of conversations with her shows why he´s so feared.
The way Littlefinger’s eyes were following Arya in that scene convinces me that he knew tbf. Let’s not forget they’ve interacted before. Arya asked why people call him Littlefinger back in season 1 at the tourney, and he explained. He said nothing to Tywin because “knowledge is power”
Littlefinger 100% knew lmao
I don’t think Littlefinger knew. If he did he would have definitely used it to ingratiate himself with Tywin. There’s no way he clocks that and doesn’t say anything. I think part of it is that noblemen don’t really look at commoners in this world. They’re inconsequential to them and are only around to perform tasks. He also would never expect to see Arya there with Tywin so I don’t think it registered in his brain.
Also Arya is said to strongly take after the Stark side of the family (she and Jon are said to be two children that look purely Stark) so Littlefinger would not see a resemblance to Cat.
@@SusanbVT555 Wrong on every count. Good lord. He didn't need to integrate himself with Tywin right then. Telling Tywin gives the Lanniters another hostage and would end the war with the starks quicker, ending the chaos faster that Littlefinger needs. And we literally SEE him recognize Arya. He does a double take. Then he looks closer and smirks. And then when he talks about Catelyns DAUGHTER he looks right at her. You need to use your head
Ser Roddrick's words are coming home to haunt Theon. "You are TRULY lost". And you can see the moment where Theon realized he was lost. And it makes even more sense in the books where he, Robb & Jon are all just like 15. Almost men, but still children. See, the little boy Theon just saw it all as a game to be played. Family rivalries going on for centuries in these funny tales. But the man Theon had seen what he had done to those farm boys and he was horrified at who he had just become.
Keep this mindset of Theon's moving forward. It's about to get pretty interesting.
One thing about this episode that likely remains true from book to show is that those two Orphan/millers boys is heavily alluded to as being Theons own sons as he had relations with the millers wife.
Theon likely had his own sons tortured and killed.
25:32 "and they were just orphans!" - In the books it's implied that those two kids were actually Theon's own children, because he had a affair with their mother.
I never really bought that theory - given Theon's age, and the approximate age of the kids, you've got to *really* push the envelope to make that timeline work.
@@mjs752002 yeah bran is 10 and theon is like 18 at most so hed have been 9 or 10 getting someone pregnant for a similar looking sized kid
Kit Harrington and Rose Leslie had such great chemistry on scene that they actually got married. I wish them all the best.
It's crazy watching these old episodes and remembering that we used to hate Jaime.
Jaime became my favorite character in the books
"I lost something once!"
I almost did a spit take drinking my soda🤣🤣🤣🤣
Tylisa (Rob's love interest) is Charlie Chaplin's grand or great grand daughter.
1:19 He's not just the dad from The VVitch, he's... FINCHY!!!!
From The Office.
Ralph Ineson. His voice is fantastic.
Recognised the voice before his face
Galactus!
And hes a major character in Diablo 4
He kissed Roy on the arse in the IT Crowd
"A diabolical form of cahoots."
Very likely the first time in human history those words have been assembled in such an arrangement! 🤣
I love that talking it through landed you on Theon's worst quality is his inauthenticity, which sounds crazy, but I totally agree with. lol
Quaith, the girl who asked jorah about betraying danaerys, is like melisandre, or thoros. A priestess of the red god.
You've probably been told this 1000 times by now, but in case you haven't, It Harrington (Jon Snow) and Rose Leslie (Ygritte) are now married in real life.
You seen the interview where he talked about pranking her? 😂
@WrathOfGrapesN7 I have not. What happened?
@@eudite1762 it involves a prop head, a refrigerator, and Rose getting a glass of water.
@@WrathOfGrapesN7 hah, damn
The dawning shock as you two realized where Jaime was going with his trolling…
Tywin's not testing her. He's using her to test his food after what he thinks was an assassination attempt.
15:44
And done what with her body? Like do you think that bodiss just disappear once their dead? It's a big castle.
“Oops! I guess she tripped on the stairs and cut her own throat. Well, these things happen.”
That’s not Theon. That’s Reek.
I remember hating Jamie too at this point but his lines and delivery was so good I started to respect him as a villain.
You two have such great reactions!
In a time without credit scores, mass media or newspapers, your word your reputation and your honour is everything.
Oh, it's so exciting for you guys! You have yet to see the dimensions of character's and I cannot f'n wait!
Charles Dance too good!
Finchy is now known mostly as the dad from the Witch. Proud of him honestly.
Woo woo something to watch at work tonight
Theon's dad didn't actually send him away. Theon was taken hostage by Ned.
OMG the way your drink looked at 0:23, I only glanced at it and it looked it was full of little ants or something. Nightmare fuel.
Cersei using honest feelings to do dishonest work is one of her greatest talents
"Do you know what legacy means? It's what you pass down to your children, and your *children's children*"
Can't believe I've never caught the double meaning before, if only Tywin knew how accurate he really was with that statement 😂
8:12
I’m pretty sure this is the only time Tywin smiled.
In this episode I remember feeling glad that Jon didn't kill Ygritte
You guys hate Theon…wait till you guys meet Reek
28:00 imagine meeting your favorite team and taking a knee before them in person and swearing an oath of fealty before the whole court, tons of witnesses. And after you do, your entire family is beholden to that, and BOOKS are written to teach people about your family and who you are sworn loyal to, that's where their brainspace was
OH, and if you break that oath, they execute you.
Per Arianna's request, there will be a new streaming service- "The Theon channel" 😂😂
What in the the Jethro Moonshine Band are you drinking, Maple?
Diddled the Sibling! Classis!!🤣🤣
27:08 Shots fired at King Charles III
9:42 SHE SAID THE THING 👀
I’ve never seen a reactor catch that dude from The Witch.
I don't know how more people don't notice it with that unmistakable voice of his.
Chris Finch, bloody good rep.
Getting bludgeoned to death sounds horrible, but getting bludgeoned to near death only for it to take an hour or more to actually have the brain shut off would be worse
Dad from The Witch is going to be Galactus 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Maple with her pickle jar has me 💀. keep pickle jars... they are gonna be useful to me one day too.
FYI DO YOU KNOW THAT, THE DRAGON EMPEROR HIMSELF AURION OF OLD VALYRIA IS STILL ALIVE, AND HIDING WITH HIS DRAGON.
25:22 notice Theon’s reaction here he didn’t expect it meaning those boys were killed without his knowledge
I don't believe that. He very much did a show about this reveal and even pointed towards the wall where the corpses were pulled up. I just he had a moment of realization of what he is doing and has done and how it's all slipping out of his control
He simply realised the magnitude of what he had done. He was there at the farmhouse. How would he not have known?
It's guilt and shame.
They're in season 2 talking about killing innocent civilians and children is wrong and causes revolutions...just wait.
Hey consider reacting on the godfather part 1 and 2
Theon GreyPoupon omg 😆
Who do I talk to about renaming this video "Theon Pupon"? Bueller?
Crisped Children... No spoilers but wasn't that said in later episodes and not this one?
You’re spot on about Theon. He has major abandonment issues and is desperately trying to win his Father’s approval. He isn’t behaving rationally and has lost sight of who was really there for him for the last decade or so. He doesn’t really even know who his Father is and if he did he probably wouldn’t like or respect him after being raised by the Starks.
The guy you call the Dad from The Witch ... I know him from the original, the English The Office, way back when Ricky Gervais could be funny.
Rose Leslie is Kit Harington’s wife irl 😅
maple 😍
Poor Jon Snow =(
I hate how they made Shae seem like a good person or a “real one” like they said. In the books she was nothing but a user, and liar. She never helped anyone.
Shae was such an annoying character in the books. She's far more interesting in this version. Martin thought so as well, apparently. He said that if he'd had it to do over again, he would have written her as a fuller, more interesting character, more like she is in the show.
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It doesn’t make any sense though. She is a scammer and hooker. But she has a heart of gold and puts herself in danger? Nah, it’s not realistic.
Theon can be who he wants, messed up or not. You two are just irritated by him.
Not trying to give spoilers but Theon has the most incredible character arc (and there will be many wild ones) in this entire series. Trust me when I say that by the end of the series you'll be in his corner.
Yet another episode showing Jaime = best character.
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My tasty yummy Mapple🥰😍😘😘😘
When you hear(as a man), you need but a cabin and a bit ofb space, and you can find... a woman who will keep you warm in the winter...you dream...you wonder❤...and know❤you born at the wrong time 😢#Dobetter
Say what?
@ Woman have changed…and so 2 has man! I only hope 4 the better ❤️