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  • @iamthesword1180
    @iamthesword1180 Месяц назад +3644

    He's absolutely right. Here in Germany, managers always complain about Premier League buying their best players - five minutes later, they sign another talent from Stade Rennais...

    • @CirphrankGG
      @CirphrankGG Месяц назад +47

      😂

    • @davinnicode
      @davinnicode Месяц назад +175

      Rightfully so. France has the best talents and in Germany there is higher chance that they can play in international competitions

    • @pazthepole2814
      @pazthepole2814 Месяц назад +34

      It’s not even true tho. Is Timo Werner the best? Havertz? Players stay at these clubs for a long time and they receive huge fees, unlike in France where clubs are so poorly ran they lose players prematurely or they keep them until they have little value.

    • @iamthesword1180
      @iamthesword1180 Месяц назад +132

      @@pazthepole2814 Well, I didn't say "the best German players", but the best players from German clubs. Apart from München and Dortmund (to a much lesser degree, see Haaland), all German clubs suffer from it. Take the last two transfer periods (Summer 23 and Winter 23/24): Leipzig alone lost Gvardiol (Man City), Szoboszlai (Liverpool) and Nkunku (Chelsea). Other notable examples are Freiburg's Flekken and Schade (both Brentford), Stuttgart's Endo (Liverpool) and Mavropanos (West Ham) or Leverkusen's Diaby (Aston Villa). But you can go on: Wolfsburg's Van de Veen (Tottenham), Möchengladbach's Beyer (Burnley), Bremen's Gruev (Leeds).... I don't say that all of them do well in the Premier League, but they were very important for their clubs in Germany.
      And by the way: Yes, Kai Havertz was considered Leverkusen's finest player when he left for Chelsea in 2020...

    • @derEnzon
      @derEnzon Месяц назад +38

      Just like the premierleague complained after Saudi Arabia started to pay even more money than them

  • @valeriotorchio
    @valeriotorchio Месяц назад +4192

    Carra: "the best players in the woeerld" 😂

  • @KarlSkorger
    @KarlSkorger Месяц назад +2586

    "The Dutch are not there anymore"
    Flashbacks of Guilit, Davies Ajax 😢

    • @kasper7250
      @kasper7250 Месяц назад +45

      PSV this year

    • @ismarwinkelman5648
      @ismarwinkelman5648 Месяц назад +4

      @@kasper7250Precies!

    • @yasheebfaridi2888
      @yasheebfaridi2888 Месяц назад +5

      Yup. PSV Ajax.

    • @fiscolorado656
      @fiscolorado656 Месяц назад +19

      I used to play FIFA as Celtic on Playstation back in the day. I remember when the Dutch were tough.
      That's all. Carry on.

    • @ledealerdecaba
      @ledealerdecaba Месяц назад +11

      He speak about club. Ajax won it 30 years ago, and it was a surprise, after a boring final, ended up 1-0, and a goal scored by a 18 years old substitute

  • @elijahknox4421
    @elijahknox4421 23 дня назад +109

    "the power of the premier league, money, why do you think I'm here speaking English on tnt?"

    • @jamalrobinson2159
      @jamalrobinson2159 22 дня назад +1

      And offered very little in return for all that money

    • @Touk764
      @Touk764 22 дня назад +5

      He got more international titles than 5 generations of British 😂

    • @Touk764
      @Touk764 20 дней назад +1

      @@jamalrobinson2159 you talking about the invincible Thierry Henry ?

    • @PunofHarts
      @PunofHarts 17 дней назад

      It is CBS not TNT

    • @marvinbrando722
      @marvinbrando722 9 дней назад

      And TNT in Spanish.
      CBS Golaso
      ESPN en Espanol
      Etc, etc, etc.
      He is 100% right.
      Very hard to compete.
      Premier league the richest
      La Liga, second

  • @Mr_Linka
    @Mr_Linka Месяц назад +787

    There’s only one answer to Carragher’s question…
    MONEY! 💷💶💷💶❗️❗️❗️

    • @eoin8156
      @eoin8156 Месяц назад +30

      French teams were always up to nothing in Europe even before money took over.
      Celtic, red star , Porto, benfica , Hamburg , Ajax , psv , feyenoord, Dortmund , villa , Forrest , Bucharest all under dogs who won European cups while only Marseille ever won from France .

    • @Mr_Linka
      @Mr_Linka Месяц назад

      @@eoin8156
      Most players won’t admit it, but money is probably the number one factor in making a footballing decision..?
      Look at Saudi right now, and China a few years ago.

    • @lesswanted
      @lesswanted Месяц назад +2

      Then still more money than Spain… and…

    • @lasaintebriocheissouhhh692
      @lasaintebriocheissouhhh692 Месяц назад +5

      @@eoin8156 Nothing ? Appart from Marseille, Nantes/Reims/Auxerre/PSG (yes in 90s)/Saint Etienne and Lyon were really strong before Bosman change. Some off them reach UCL final.

    • @sskmanentsa5326
      @sskmanentsa5326 Месяц назад

      A lot of them were not even underdogs, especially that Celtic team. The domestic leagues from various countries were strong enough to produce 2 to 3 great teams.

  • @skiller2922
    @skiller2922 Месяц назад +1154

    best clubs in the weeeeeeld

    • @olivier3516
      @olivier3516 Месяц назад +76

      Shadio Maneh

    • @dimitrisk02
      @dimitrisk02 Месяц назад +66

      I’m being sheerrious, I’m being sheerrious

    • @AK47Reload
      @AK47Reload Месяц назад +2

      Real Madrid entered the chat

    • @maganrescues
      @maganrescues Месяц назад +20

      ​@@dimitrisk02no ifs, buts or maybes!

    • @patsonu774
      @patsonu774 Месяц назад

      😃😃😃

  • @adrianyoyo3635
    @adrianyoyo3635 Месяц назад +423

    I would reverse the question, why does England has the best league in the world but the national team has never won anything

    • @brunoshkurti7740
      @brunoshkurti7740 Месяц назад +23

      they have win one world cup not nothing and have been in the final and semi final in the last 2 tournaments

    • @Iron-Bridge
      @Iron-Bridge Месяц назад +37

      Because the best English players all play in ...uh, nevermind 😁🤣

    • @armingleiner5292
      @armingleiner5292 Месяц назад +65

      @@brunoshkurti7740 The World Cup which was stolen from Germany.

    • @only4comments
      @only4comments Месяц назад +75

      Because they can only pick English players for the national team

    • @brunoshkurti7740
      @brunoshkurti7740 Месяц назад +8

      @@armingleiner5292 nope wasn't stolen anyways who cares anymore

  • @Erwanca
    @Erwanca Месяц назад +787

    So true
    PL fans blaming and calling PSG a money club while completely plunder other countries by buying every wonder kinds with millions is quite ironic.

    • @Frosty1979
      @Frosty1979 Месяц назад +90

      Yeah, most Premier league clubs are as disgusting as PSG:

    • @SudeepAdhikari0611
      @SudeepAdhikari0611 Месяц назад +7

      Very true

    • @ayush9534
      @ayush9534 Месяц назад +46

      How it's PL clubs fault?
      They had a better league system, more audience, a mid table teams earns more money that serie A winners
      If they had this type of money legitimately why won't they spend money to make league more interesting??
      Madrid also draw World best players.
      Zidane R9 Figo Cristiano bale Benzema kaka these are fkin ballan ballan dor winners and were best player from their league. Why don't people give their opinions when these clubs pulled best players
      So why will PL stop?

    • @seyioyetade
      @seyioyetade Месяц назад +1

      Hmmm I guess Madrid is a joke to u

    • @Ameisenigelytk
      @Ameisenigelytk Месяц назад +7

      Only because PL teams are mostly oil clubs, doesn't mean PSG isn't one. What logic is that?

  • @dafeng2623
    @dafeng2623 24 дня назад +14

    Agreed. French clubs and Netherlands clubs struggle to keep star players due to lack strength of financial.

  • @mariomassaro8809
    @mariomassaro8809 28 дней назад +18

    Carranger:”the best players in the woäæəërld”

  • @ajinkyakelkar9983
    @ajinkyakelkar9983 Месяц назад +538

    This aged beautifully

    • @zochiang
      @zochiang Месяц назад +66

      How does this aged??? It's from this week UCL match😂.mf

    • @Ben-sb3hk
      @Ben-sb3hk Месяц назад +6

      @@zochiang mbappe gone Bro.
      Like milk

    • @danielalmeida7382
      @danielalmeida7382 28 дней назад

      @@Ben-sb3hk he not gone yet.
      So it hasn’t aged badly

    • @DeTaxxman
      @DeTaxxman 27 дней назад

      @@danielalmeida7382he is gone, there is a 99.9% chance he is leaving

    • @FredLimestone
      @FredLimestone 27 дней назад

      hes already said hes gone@@danielalmeida7382

  • @aidygooner
    @aidygooner Месяц назад +219

    It's unfortunate that Lyon and Marseille cannot be as competitive as PSG and bring more excitement and respectability to French football. 😢

    • @legomarkvin2023
      @legomarkvin2023 Месяц назад +21

      It would be good for a group from the Arab world to invest in them like PSG, that would make a lot of difference and bring more responsibility for professionalism.

    • @dchegu
      @dchegu Месяц назад +23

      Guess u are too young to remember when Lyon won the french league like 7-8 times in a row while psg was the ultimate banter club.

    • @aidygooner
      @aidygooner Месяц назад +18

      @@dchegu your comment has nothing to do with the present as Lyon are so far behind PSG now. I started watching football during Lyon's dominance and their team back then was a solid team, well respected and feared by Europe's best teams (especially Real Madrid) unlike this PSG team who are laughable considering the resources they have. PSG seems to think that their status matches the global status of their city. 😂

    • @michaelmaccrazy
      @michaelmaccrazy Месяц назад +8

      As a PSG fan, I would love for a couple of those clubs to be more competitive. If you remember, Monaco had a takeover around the same time as PSG...they had players like James Rodriguez and Falcao) but their owner got divorced and never really financially recovered from that.

    • @aidygooner
      @aidygooner Месяц назад +8

      @@michaelmaccrazy it's so unfortunate that a gold digger destroyed the destiny of Monaco. 😭 This is why men not only need to choose carefully but if they're the main moneymaker then they need to sign a contract in the marriage where the divorced wife doesn't get financially rewarded for something she hasn't earned or contributed to.

  • @felipenadeau1346
    @felipenadeau1346 Месяц назад +10

    I'm South American and live in France and it's not JUST about money, its also about attitude, mystique, love for the sport. Just look at one of the richest teams in Europe, the PSG, they are so cold spirited as most French clubs are, with the exception of Marseille maybe but the rest sucks and its not JUST nor mainly about the money.

  • @user-re1hr6gt5g
    @user-re1hr6gt5g Месяц назад +61

    Dutch's not there anymore, I remember prime modern Ajax , which was immediately dismantle as plyers were sold to big clubs

    • @halamadridpatriotsnationgo1057
      @halamadridpatriotsnationgo1057 Месяц назад +1

      what's wrong with netherlands? don't they have money in general, like country economical wise?

    • @alirastafari
      @alirastafari Месяц назад +7

      We're also very egalitarian and cheap. It's such a shame how every good player that drifts up gets sold to the bigger leagues only to flop there. What if that Ajax was allowed to mature together? Can't blame the players individually, but have Frenkie de Jong, Mathijs de Ligt, Hakim Ziyech really benefited from their transfers? They could've each gotten a statue in Amsterdam if they stayed there for 3 more seasons.

    • @Sven-kj2uh
      @Sven-kj2uh Месяц назад +1

      @@halamadridpatriotsnationgo1057 Clubs in bigger competitions earn more money, so they can just buy the better best players of smaller competitions.

    • @Poebz-mv1cg
      @Poebz-mv1cg Месяц назад +2

      @@halamadridpatriotsnationgo1057 It's a small country, so they don't have the same viewership and money to spend. I think they should fuse with the Belgian competition to make it competitive again.

    • @vauquelon799
      @vauquelon799 Месяц назад +4

      @@Poebz-mv1cg Nah, the Belgian clubs cannot compete with the Dutch clubs

  • @delta2370
    @delta2370 Месяц назад +305

    France actually has some really underrated teams but england, spain, germany and Italy are just too huge powehouses. The best teams in these 4 are just a step( some 2) above the best french teams.

    • @adrianyoyo3635
      @adrianyoyo3635 Месяц назад +8

      National England team never won anything

    • @ragunanthan787
      @ragunanthan787 Месяц назад +47

      ​@@adrianyoyo3635 he is talking about the clubs clearly🤦. Where are other French nation team members playing apart from Mbappe? Now even mbappe is moving to spain.

    • @thephantomterence9211
      @thephantomterence9211 Месяц назад +1

      Money talks…

    • @wahabalrefai4987
      @wahabalrefai4987 Месяц назад +1

      Money
      Before oil teams
      No new team in any league could think of cempeting agianst the giants
      The giants had billions spending only few millions because no one else can
      Oil teams made everyone rich so now everyone can get to competw

    • @charliezz6746
      @charliezz6746 Месяц назад +10

      ​@@adrianyoyo3635French clubs are not very good yet their national team is one of the best in the world and quite successful in major tournaments unlike most French club teams

  • @clemsi7596
    @clemsi7596 Месяц назад +8

    Spot on. And people complain psg just have money. How else were they meant to complete with the rest of Europe.

  • @L1nk2002
    @L1nk2002 Месяц назад +17

    French clubs got some of the best young players in the world, problem is as they said they all go playing in other, more competitive leagues.

  • @nottestellata5201
    @nottestellata5201 Месяц назад +11

    In italy we have the opposite problem. Almost no one is abroad. I think it's good to make both experiences

    • @ugugublu2951
      @ugugublu2951 Месяц назад +1

      And hardly anybody is in italy either.

    • @karadanianoI
      @karadanianoI Месяц назад +5

      it was always like that, Serie A was the best league by far.
      its a pity it fell from grace

    • @nottestellata5201
      @nottestellata5201 Месяц назад +2

      @@ugugublu2951 except the france national team ahah Maignan, Giroud, Pavard, Theo, Thuram, Rabiot

    • @ugugublu2951
      @ugugublu2951 Месяц назад +1

      @@nottestellata5201 It's the farm-league for everybody - except for italy itself. It's a tragedy.

    • @markmclewis6737
      @markmclewis6737 Месяц назад +1

      @@ugugublu2951yes for everybody who is deluded. Farm league that secured a 5th spot in CL with over 2 months ahead the end of the season and that sits second in the fifa ranking. Envy gnawing at your heart

  • @mreuro2004
    @mreuro2004 Месяц назад +168

    french teams just don’t have what it takes, rarely you see a french team winning some european silverware, portuguese team, for example, have less money than french teams and do more, the last club to win either champions league or europa league outside the top4 leagues is actually Porto…

    • @davidjean-marie6302
      @davidjean-marie6302 Месяц назад +37

      The difference is France has world renowned academies and their players get scouted early and end up playing abroad for more money.

    • @junaidmohammed280
      @junaidmohammed280 Месяц назад +17

      French team is the French national team, Oh and they do have what it takes...I dont why people consider club teams to be an indicator of national teams strength. Its a very English thing to do for obvious reasons. How English is Man City?..The philosphy is of a Spaniard, most of their top players are non-English...

    • @sohtnax7809
      @sohtnax7809 Месяц назад +9

      2004 son. You talk about this like they win the champions league on a daily basis 😂
      0 footbakl Knowledge
      It's been 20 years.
      Of course it's about money, besides psg there is not a single team out of the top4 leagues that reached top4 in UCL in the last decade

    • @daprox3893
      @daprox3893 Месяц назад +10

      @@sohtnax7809 ajax in 2019

    • @MovieRiotHD
      @MovieRiotHD Месяц назад +4

      ​@@daprox3893Yeah, PSV 2005, but that's longer back.

  • @miniman423
    @miniman423 Месяц назад +62

    i mean germany dont have the money to spend on players but look where leverkusen,dortmund and bayern are

    • @danx4813
      @danx4813 Месяц назад +48

      "Bayern has no money" LOL

    • @miniman423
      @miniman423 Месяц назад +26

      @@danx4813 ye but they barely spend as much as any other big club like psg,united,chelsea,madrid etc etc you know what i mean

    • @AbuChabi65
      @AbuChabi65 Месяц назад

      @@danx4813Bayern is the best run club in the world this is why they can afford great players we still dont have any oil money and sell our clubs to sheikhs like the premier League does

    • @user-bf5wj2zd6o
      @user-bf5wj2zd6o Месяц назад

      ​@@danx4813Bayern has no investor. All their money is earned through good managment over decades

    • @lilj2326
      @lilj2326 Месяц назад +6

      @@miniman423tbf they just pick off all the best players from the teams around them

  • @tntg5
    @tntg5 Месяц назад +8

    Also, because of the fan count. Football is way more popular in the uk, Germany and Spain than it is in France.
    Just look at how many people watch second or third division in stadiums in these countries

    • @ericdva1408
      @ericdva1408 23 дня назад +1

      French watch less but play more

  • @hitthurdeaux
    @hitthurdeaux Месяц назад +18

    This is one of the main reasons why I always oppose anybody saying “top 5 leagues”. There is only the top 4.

    • @matletico
      @matletico Месяц назад +1

      So what do you think Ligue 1 should do to improve ?

    • @jczura5602
      @jczura5602 23 дня назад

      attract investors to buy teams and pump in money to keep their best talent. money is the only solution sadly.

  • @EdgarHernandez-dq4vj
    @EdgarHernandez-dq4vj 23 дня назад +2

    Outside of PSG, Ligue 1 is a farming league similar to Serie A. The money from the Prem and prestige of La Liga is hard to compete with

  • @parmentier7457
    @parmentier7457 22 дня назад +13

    The Netherlands were good until the late 90's.
    5 x Champions League
    3 x Intercontinental Cup
    4 x UEFA Cup
    2 x UEFA Supercup
    1 x UEFA Cupwinners Cup

    • @oportbis
      @oportbis 22 дня назад +5

      Yes, that's exactly his point

    • @davidlevendeurdevin7733
      @davidlevendeurdevin7733 22 дня назад

      Yes but how much since Bosman ruling? 1 for Rotterdam and I think it's done... Nederland and France have the same problem, they are less attractive 💶. And before the 80's french teams don't stay on the top for decades like Bayern, real Madrid or Ajax: Reims during the 50's st Étienne in the 70's. Marseille were good in the 80'/90's but after winning the CL, they were banned for corruption in French league.

  • @AlejandroGonzalez-ph3yo
    @AlejandroGonzalez-ph3yo Месяц назад +24

    PSG can't whine about money either

    • @gvngbvngiggy
      @gvngbvngiggy Месяц назад +3

      Yeah but every other french club cant even compete domestically

    • @michaelmaccrazy
      @michaelmaccrazy Месяц назад +4

      The point went over your head. PSG has money but the other 17 clubs....not so much. And because of that, it has consequences such as the inability to retain young talents which is important in a league's development.

    • @thiccchungo1041
      @thiccchungo1041 Месяц назад +3

      PSG is the sole representative of Ligue 1 in Europe because they actually have money and can punch at the same level as the super rich clubs that are already at the top

    • @harry14imb
      @harry14imb Месяц назад +3

      That proves Henry's point more because that's the only reason Mbappe is still in France. Money dictates where players go

    • @vincentlo7678
      @vincentlo7678 23 дня назад

      And PSG is the only club floating above the rest. So they power through every league without facing any adversity. They need strong opposition no just in CL but also in Ligue 1 otherwise they gonna be stagnating.

  • @kasper7250
    @kasper7250 Месяц назад +162

    Henry basically says the French League is a farmers League

    • @kibron4869
      @kibron4869 Месяц назад +42

      He’s saying that other league have more money and that’s French talents are attracted there, specially in Premier League

    • @jamiewilliams423
      @jamiewilliams423 Месяц назад

      Which basically means when you play well in ligue1 you leave ligue1, which makes it a farmer's league. Get it?? ​@@kibron4869

    • @Support-your-local-team
      @Support-your-local-team Месяц назад +27

      EPL has all the money in the world and is still a farmers league.

    • @cyberturkey77
      @cyberturkey77 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@kibron4869 PSG probably has more money than the prem lol

    • @kibron4869
      @kibron4869 Месяц назад +16

      @@cyberturkey77 bro a league isn’t made of just one club

  • @vitodoria7894
    @vitodoria7894 23 дня назад +2

    The money isn't there in French football bar PSG. Although Bernard Tapie was controversial figure, at least he brought elite talent to Marseille and had some great players in the late 1980s and early 90s.

  • @zisssssou
    @zisssssou Месяц назад +60

    I love how Carragher is acting how he didn't understand the situation.... When everybody know professionnal football has just become an industry. 😂
    A machine the French government decided to not finance. All French clubs are all paying legal taxes when Spain and especially England are just fiscal paradises for football club investors.
    France is forming players, England is buying some. That's ok. 😉

  • @miguelvalsassina4547
    @miguelvalsassina4547 Месяц назад +4

    Portugal with 9 european trophys say hello 😂

  • @beardandbelly6003
    @beardandbelly6003 Месяц назад +6

    I think in the Bundesliga perhaps more attention is paid to good team chemistry than in other leagues. Judging by the names alone, PSG should have clearly made it to the final. Leverkusen is the prime example. If they stick their team together...dress warmly!

    • @HIMCULES
      @HIMCULES Месяц назад +1

      Don't flatter yourself, it's the taxes in France.

    • @beardandbelly6003
      @beardandbelly6003 Месяц назад +1

      @@HIMCULES Of course it's the taxes. Directly after the particulate matter level and the tire pressure in cars.

    • @HIMCULES
      @HIMCULES Месяц назад

      @@beardandbelly6003 I am sorry to have wasted your time.

    • @beardandbelly6003
      @beardandbelly6003 Месяц назад

      @@HIMCULES You didn't. You wrote something similar in another comment. But I don't see the point. what does this have to do with team building?

    • @HIMCULES
      @HIMCULES Месяц назад

      @@beardandbelly6003 Henry said all the good players leave France. I said it's obviously because there is a 75% tax on people making over a million a year. Hence no players to build with.

  • @movement6514
    @movement6514 26 дней назад +1

    Same in Belgium, we are only good to train youngsters then they all good abroad for money

  • @_MC529
    @_MC529 Месяц назад +2

    Carragher's accent is too funny.

  • @marmida2
    @marmida2 22 дня назад +5

    best players in the whale

  • @Panthony361
    @Panthony361 Месяц назад +86

    Germany does it without all the money we have all the heart and the best mentality

    • @eljonsen2586
      @eljonsen2586 Месяц назад +3

      True

    • @Gog.Magog.
      @Gog.Magog. Месяц назад

      Yes I agree

    • @danx4813
      @danx4813 Месяц назад +6

      Except for Bayern

    • @muhammedgamer1896
      @muhammedgamer1896 Месяц назад +12

      ​@@danx4813 Bayern don't spend like other top club

    • @danx4813
      @danx4813 Месяц назад +1

      @@muhammedgamer1896 i agree with that

  • @chrisrhodes2
    @chrisrhodes2 23 дня назад +2

    We all know money is ruining sports, yet we do nothing about it. Can't complain if we don't resist

  • @wt5657
    @wt5657 23 дня назад +3

    Henry is Right english Clubs have more money than the french clubs ..back in the days when Serie A was the best league in the world you see world class players joining italians teams like R9 seedorf kaka nedved etc ..thats why you dont hear big talent join barca anymore cause they broke ..nowadays football is money

    • @Biffo316
      @Biffo316 23 дня назад +1

      It's all down to money. Chelsea Utd City Arsenal Liverpool even Spurs and most top half teams in the Premier League can offer better money playing on better pitches with better players but again again the only reason for that is because they can pay players more so they're naturally gonna follow the money. And I don't know about other broadcasters abroad but their revenue from sky alone is absolutely massive

  • @kyojin5319
    @kyojin5319 Месяц назад +3

    Mbappe in not the only French superstar in Paris… they got dembele😂

  • @ernestocaro9802
    @ernestocaro9802 Месяц назад +3

    France used to have PSG, Monaco, Olympique Marseille,Olympique Lyon, Gyrondins Burdeox (i don’t know ho to spell it LOL) but now it’s just PSG

  • @jys2992
    @jys2992 24 дня назад +1

    No money no glory😢

  • @jonidacosta4590
    @jonidacosta4590 Месяц назад +1

    Pretty much, same with Portugal, i wish we could hold on to our talent a bit more until they are 23-25

  • @kaylanlayton
    @kaylanlayton Месяц назад +9

    PSG are 1 of the richest clubs in the world nd richer than most clubs in prem nd la liga nd all them

  • @aminaali8402
    @aminaali8402 Месяц назад +7

    Someone has to stop jamie's weerld😂.

  • @BotolaGO_Podcast
    @BotolaGO_Podcast Месяц назад +1

    the answer is football heritage of the league.

  • @cliffdewind1389
    @cliffdewind1389 29 дней назад

    True that..Henry always know what is what..!!

  • @cedric3110
    @cedric3110 Месяц назад +5

    In France it's the tax that scares you away

    • @francoisperrin7397
      @francoisperrin7397 Месяц назад

      Just food for thoughts: above 250 000 euros annually, some taxes are capped so that means you'll pay the same amount of money wherever you earn 500 000 euros or 1 000 000 euros. Of course, not many people know that.

    • @michaelmaccrazy
      @michaelmaccrazy Месяц назад

      You might be onto something. France has the second highest tax rate in Europe.

    • @houssedecouette4056
      @houssedecouette4056 Месяц назад

      @@michaelmaccrazy absolute non sence , otherise why did QDI invest in PSG , the taxation rate especially with the right scheems is not that high for big fortunes

    • @cedric3110
      @cedric3110 Месяц назад

      almost no big player or bisnesman returns to live in France after having made a fortune to protect themselves from taxes, asks Thierry Henry 😉

    • @houssedecouette4056
      @houssedecouette4056 Месяц назад

      @@cedric3110 BS the wealthy are champion at taxe evasion and lobying to get special taxe deductions

  • @cheloxmv
    @cheloxmv Месяц назад +3

    Money. That's why Europe has the biggest leagues in the world.

    • @sab-vl4jg
      @sab-vl4jg Месяц назад

      Money should NOW go to Argentina for a little while since they WON the world cup!!

  • @markcalzaverini
    @markcalzaverini 28 дней назад

    Carragher asking a question he already knows the answer to

  • @alexmaldonado9413
    @alexmaldonado9413 Месяц назад +1

    Thierry has a point, I mean, he's a legend in Arsenal (Premier League) and Barcelona (La liga EA Sports), since Marseille no one had lifted that prestigious lady in his country.

  • @iRanjid
    @iRanjid Месяц назад +11

    People say that about the Bundesliga too, only League without investors yet still international successful 😊

    • @fillbrin
      @fillbrin Месяц назад

      Not really, putting bayern aside, it's been decades since a german team won the champions league. It's also a weak league if one looks at international trophies

    • @iRanjid
      @iRanjid Месяц назад

      @@fillbrin absolutely not, plenty of teams who came far in the last years

    • @davidaguilar8840
      @davidaguilar8840 Месяц назад

      @@iRanjid Winning the final is diff than “coming far” in a tournament or league. They don’t give a trophy to second place

    • @iRanjid
      @iRanjid Месяц назад

      @@davidaguilar8840 lmao 5 years international rating also useless then?

    • @davidaguilar8840
      @davidaguilar8840 Месяц назад

      @@iRanjid when is the last time a German team not named Bayern Munich win the champions league? Bayern has been finding success but only until this year and they are a pharmaceutical company also.

  • @timhinfort1171
    @timhinfort1171 Месяц назад +4

    It’s because league 1 is unattractive. If you are a bright French talent you either go straight to the premier league, cause of the money, or you go to a team that can give you European football so you can develop and present yourself on a bigger stage. Germany is very popular with French players cause these teams often guarantee you playing time and do decently well in European competitions.

    • @NB-or8rs
      @NB-or8rs Месяц назад

      They are very popular with french players because of the money.
      The Bundesliga has 1.1 billion per year in TV rights. Ligue 1 is barely at 700 millions per year.
      I don't think you realize how much more money you have and how deep the difference is between France and the top 4 leagues

    • @javiceres
      @javiceres 23 дня назад

      Or go to Spain to win the Champions League

  • @A-Boogie-uw9hr
    @A-Boogie-uw9hr 25 дней назад

    His suit is clean. Lord

  • @hrodebrt
    @hrodebrt Месяц назад

    I miss when Lyon and Marseille were regulars in the CL, the atmosphere at those stadiums was always amazing to see

  • @pekar43
    @pekar43 Месяц назад +24

    Well yeah Henry is right
    The only club in France that attracts top talent and top managers is PSG, because they have finances, while the other clubs can barely compete, unlike the prem where the profit margin is spread more equally than Ligue Une
    Edit: with that said they are becoming more similar because of clubs like Manchester City so we might even see a downfall of the league in the future if not prevented

    • @MovieRiotHD
      @MovieRiotHD Месяц назад +1

      And club management sucks as far as I can tell!

    • @ragunanthan787
      @ragunanthan787 Месяц назад +1

      Apart from Grealish City never plundered other clubs in the league🤦‍♂️ .Bayern and PSG farm other teams every year. Its very different.

    • @pekar43
      @pekar43 Месяц назад

      @@ragunanthan787 That's a fair point for now, but that might begin sooner rather than later

    • @Arielle1309
      @Arielle1309 Месяц назад +2

      what a beautifully educated comment you've made here. It's the exact reason(s) you've said here, why French teams don't do well in Europe. PSG hoovers up all of the talent, and so they're winning each and every year. If they don't change the structure there, then nothing will change. And if nothing changes that league will always be boring, and the best players will leave for other leagues.
      If the Premier League doesn't do something urgent about Manchester City winning each season, eventually the brand will be damaged. The PL allowed City to cheat and grow into a juggernaut for many years, and now it's in danger of turning in the French league. We are all waiting to see what the powers in charge will do about it.

    • @ragunanthan787
      @ragunanthan787 Месяц назад

      @@Arielle1309 Where were you when United were dominating and liverpool were dominating in the 70s and 80s

  • @TheTalk23
    @TheTalk23 Месяц назад +8

    PSG killed the league with all the money they have spent.

    • @OmarMannan
      @OmarMannan Месяц назад

      Even if they didn’t have the money when did Lyon make a run at the UCL final or even semis when they had their back to back dynasty?

    • @tariqomer4678
      @tariqomer4678 Месяц назад +12

      They didn't kill it. They are literally carrying it. They are the only reason France still has 3 UCL spots.

    • @yvans.
      @yvans. Месяц назад +1

      @@tariqomer4678don’t explain it bro those ppl are just slow.
      A remember a time when 0 French clubs were qualified for the final rounds of Champipns league

  • @bobstar6837
    @bobstar6837 24 дня назад +1

    PSG has plenty of money, fella

  • @Miki_Mandalorian
    @Miki_Mandalorian 27 дней назад

    The same with Serbia
    Look at Red star Belgrade before winning CL, now all talents go after 1 season

  • @ericksocgfack5463
    @ericksocgfack5463 23 дня назад +4

    I feel as if carra was tryna be a smart a## but was put on his place with logic 🤔

  • @user-to9km5cg1z
    @user-to9km5cg1z Месяц назад +8

    The power wer of epl : money
    The power of spain : crying

  • @Captain_n_1
    @Captain_n_1 Месяц назад

    Beautiful tie on Carra

  • @GuntherSDoumson2178
    @GuntherSDoumson2178 Месяц назад +1

    The Dutch are definitely done..sad tale

  • @jackwilliam2965
    @jackwilliam2965 23 дня назад +3

    Carrarger not the brightest spark

  • @schwarzmann1
    @schwarzmann1 Месяц назад +5

    This is why I always think it’s stupid when people call ligue 1 a farmers league they produce so much talent arguably the best midfielder of all time (Zidane), the greatest premier league player of all time (Henry), one of the greatest wingers in premier league history (Hazard) all started in the French league but had to leave if they could keep their talent it’d probably be the best league in the world in terms of player quality

    • @FREE_WILL_DEFENDER
      @FREE_WILL_DEFENDER Месяц назад +1

      They are a farmers league because they have one big team and whenever they have a good player other leagues farm them and take them

    • @Hikups
      @Hikups Месяц назад +1

      hazard is from Belgium, started in tubize

    • @schwarzmann1
      @schwarzmann1 Месяц назад

      @@Hikups Yes but he played most of his youth football in France and made his professional debut in France, he was made in France

    • @Hikups
      @Hikups Месяц назад

      ​@@schwarzmann1 you're missing the point here. They are talking about french players leaving France to make a career somewhere else. Btw.. Hazard was good in Lille but he became a monster in Chelsea. Same with Henry and Zidane.

  • @Joseph_.14
    @Joseph_.14 25 дней назад

    Thierry Has a point 💯

  • @AnnieB8844
    @AnnieB8844 Месяц назад +12

    Its very simple jamie. When florentino perez blew up the market with the galacticos with state money lending, the pl had to follow. They sold all their teams to oligarchs that pumped in insane amounts of money. That created that only spain and the pl could compete, with incidentally an italian club.
    Dutch teams lost all their talent at 20/21 years old to these teams. Same for the French, and even portugese, who couldnt compete. And lets not forget the gap to other leagues in europe became even bigger.
    Where is Dinamo Kyiv? Where is HJK Helsinki? Where is Brøndby? Where is Galatasaray? Where is Grasshoppers? Where are Rangers and Celtic?

    • @thiccchungo1041
      @thiccchungo1041 Месяц назад +2

      Exactly, now the only way any club that isn’t in one of those elitist leagues can be at that level is by taking the same oligarchy money they use and playing with that, but every time that happens they get criticized to no end, Paris gets the heat for doing 1/10 of what Real Madrid or Man City or Chelsea do

    • @AnnieB8844
      @AnnieB8844 Месяц назад +1

      @@thiccchungo1041 exactly. Not a fan of psg, but its not worse than what city and Madrid and Chelsea did.

    • @j.b.2263
      @j.b.2263 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@AnnieB8844
      Madrid is fan owned

    • @AnnieB8844
      @AnnieB8844 Месяц назад

      @@j.b.2263 so fan owned clubs cannot be incredibly corrupt? And benefit from state interference?

    • @j.b.2263
      @j.b.2263 Месяц назад +1

      @@AnnieB8844
      Its harder.

  • @santinodellacroce2079
    @santinodellacroce2079 23 дня назад +6

    Money really ruined the sport. There's no more loyalty to club or country (owner and players at fault here). The new generation of players dont have the same pride for their country like before. Social media also plays a part in this. Countries also are loosing their identity as in playing style. The teams all look like the play the same style football. Managers just copy one another now. Look at Italy and Brazil. We have plundered in the last 10 to 15 yrs. We used to be the powerhouses of the sport, now we( Italy) cant even qualify for the WC. Brazil used be so much fun to watch with their Joga Bonita style of play. Where is it now? Where are the Legendary Italian defender?

    • @coconutade111
      @coconutade111 22 дня назад +1

      It’s literally always been about money. It’s absolutely normal and rational for a person leave one company for another in order to get a better wage

    • @cashblaster3475
      @cashblaster3475 22 дня назад +1

      Go even further back and there’s many more footballing nations that could compete. I’m thinking teams like Red Star Belgrade and Steau Bucharest from nations such as Bulgaria, Serbia and Hungary which don’t get a look in nowadays. Greek teams (Olympiacos, Panathanaikos) although rarely, sometimes challenged teams in Europe. Even IFK Goteberg won silverware in Europe. These are just off the top of my head im sure there are more. Nowadays there are like 8 teams that can win anything outside of miracles.

  • @BlunderCity
    @BlunderCity Месяц назад +2

    Taxes are too high in France so Ligue 1 has a competive disadvantage compared to other leagues.

    • @adrianyoyo3635
      @adrianyoyo3635 Месяц назад

      Yes, and the clubs have a budget restriction

    • @BlunderCity
      @BlunderCity 26 дней назад

      @@adrianyoyo3635
      That's the case in every country but most countries do not have exorbitant payroll taxes.

  • @theinfernomaster8826
    @theinfernomaster8826 Месяц назад

    REST IN PEACE GOAT!

  • @scheme4367
    @scheme4367 Месяц назад +7

    French league's revenue is too limited, can't keep their wonderkids can't recruit foreign wonderkids either.

    • @MovieRiotHD
      @MovieRiotHD Месяц назад +1

      Shouldn't matter, they have similar means to Dortmund or Atletico. It's vision and management.

    • @Erwanca
      @Erwanca Месяц назад +5

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@MovieRiotHD Budget of Atletico: 411M
      Budget of Dortmund: 350M
      Budget of the second biggest club in France beside Paris: Marseille 270M and then Lyon 220M
      But yeah sure it’s all about vision

    • @mertduran5084
      @mertduran5084 Месяц назад

      ​@@Erwancasource???

    • @Erwanca
      @Erwanca Месяц назад

      @@mertduran5084 I just typed “top budget club in Europe” went on several site to find Atletico and Dortmund because they’re obviously up there and compare with some sites to find around the same thing (for 2023/2024) and then I did the same for “best budget in Ligue 1 2023”
      I’m sure you can do the same it’s not that difficult don’t worry

  • @olivier3516
    @olivier3516 Месяц назад +19

    Let’s face it : it’s because Ligue 1 is dogshit

    • @Support-your-local-team
      @Support-your-local-team Месяц назад +4

      How many of the hundreds of leagues across the world are not "dogshit" in your eyes?

    • @bondjamesboy
      @bondjamesboy Месяц назад +4

      french league is the 5th best in the world...if it's what you say, what are the other league ?

    • @olivier3516
      @olivier3516 Месяц назад

      I meant dogshit for the superstars. It is not competitive enough, the gap is too wide between the top team and the rest

    • @xxd1167
      @xxd1167 Месяц назад

      ​​But they are 5th best league in the world and only 1 cl winners​@@Support-your-local-team

    • @Ctrlonbush
      @Ctrlonbush Месяц назад +2

      ​@@xxd1167 they can't compete with the other nations financial power, only psg can

  • @Ninjaman8610
    @Ninjaman8610 Месяц назад

    Players will follow the money it’s always been that way

  • @brucemedley635
    @brucemedley635 Месяц назад

    Same reason as brazil with the world cup all their players in europe even the wonderkids are poached early

  • @Youssef-BB17
    @Youssef-BB17 22 дня назад +3

    Porque los mejores jugadores se van fuera de esa liga de menor nivel.

  • @Haydersublate
    @Haydersublate Месяц назад +35

    The French don't spend 100s of billions on a single football league like Britain does. Instead, the French invest 100s of billions in fusion energy, increasing the living standards of their people, and funding farmers so the country is food self sufficient.

    • @nabilshafec7169
      @nabilshafec7169 Месяц назад +31

      Not going to lie… France isn’t the place to be envying, there’s been internal turmoil for a while, freedom of expression is in the bin and the integration of migrants has been awful. The grass is not always greener

    • @Haydersublate
      @Haydersublate Месяц назад +1

      @nabilshafec7169 the French earn more than 20% per annum than the British. Gas and electricity are national utilities in france, and cost less than 20% what the British pay. Britain has made many forms of demonstration illegal, imprisoned people for free speech, and brought 2 million immigrants in cheap labour to keep wages down in a bad economy. Britain is a 2nd world country.

    • @joesmith4443
      @joesmith4443 Месяц назад +7

      @@nabilshafec7169Like that isn’t happening literally everywhere. We are living through some crazy times to say the least

    • @Haydersublate
      @Haydersublate Месяц назад +4

      @aidanbagleyyy8525 Spain's economy is pathetic. They came out of fascist dictatorship in the 1980s. Spain has no history of Liberal democracy until the 1990s. Spain's laws and economy are not that of a western European country

    • @aztronomy7457
      @aztronomy7457 Месяц назад +3

      And Germany doesn’t?

  • @user-dy5xn7td3w
    @user-dy5xn7td3w Месяц назад

    thats me point gets me everytime

  • @abdulkhaveshaik8314
    @abdulkhaveshaik8314 21 час назад

    They should put a rule that all clubs should have max and min spends atleast per country.

  • @floschuller
    @floschuller Месяц назад +5

    The number 1 from France lost against the number 5 (!) from Germany. That might be one of the reasons why France is so bad.

    • @tariqomer4678
      @tariqomer4678 Месяц назад +2

      This logic doesn't make any sense

  • @palatialslumlord4938
    @palatialslumlord4938 Месяц назад +4

    Pathetic St. Germain strikes again

  • @glodiemakieleka3932
    @glodiemakieleka3932 Месяц назад +1

    Bundesliga had no so much Money

  • @FREE_WILL_DEFENDER
    @FREE_WILL_DEFENDER Месяц назад +1

    Great point about the Dutch. Ajax got farm soon as their CL run ended

    • @thiccchungo1041
      @thiccchungo1041 Месяц назад +1

      Happens every single time, RC Lens have a very good Ligue 1 season and the next transfer window RB Leipzig snatches their star forward Loïs Openda, Monaco in the time span of 2 seasons made one huge run the in the UCL but lost Bernardo Silva, Benjamin Mendy, Thomas Lemar, and Fabinho to richer English and Spanish clubs and have been completely toothless since they lost that golden generation.

    • @FREE_WILL_DEFENDER
      @FREE_WILL_DEFENDER Месяц назад +1

      @@thiccchungo1041 the football business is brutal. Its sometimes is bad to be a successful smaller club cause your players get snatched. Dortmund is probably the only organization that survives it every season they just reload

    • @thiccchungo1041
      @thiccchungo1041 Месяц назад +1

      @@FREE_WILL_DEFENDER make no mistake Dortmund is absolutely not a small club, they play the exact same game that Real Madrid or Man City play of taking young talent from smaller clubs by offering them comparatively enormous contracts that smaller clubs just can’t say no to

    • @FREE_WILL_DEFENDER
      @FREE_WILL_DEFENDER Месяц назад

      @@thiccchungo1041 you are right about that. 🙏🏾

  • @alexanderr3098
    @alexanderr3098 22 дня назад +9

    FARMERS league.

    • @Touk764
      @Touk764 22 дня назад +4

      Talent league

    • @saifzzy
      @saifzzy 22 дня назад

      Which is the prem

    • @Touk764
      @Touk764 22 дня назад +1

      @@saifzzy how much top player your league gave us ? How many ballon d’or?
      How many World Cup for England ? Euro ?

  • @Merlo1661
    @Merlo1661 23 дня назад +4

    It's just an excuse!!! German and Italian teams??? Are poorer than the English and the Spanish (just 3) teams. It's just because French football it's not good, that's it! The french players are strong because of colonies🤗

    • @nico.f9908
      @nico.f9908 22 дня назад +1

      😂I saw no english teams in the semi finals of the big european cups this years

  • @Tweakkkkkk
    @Tweakkkkkk 25 дней назад

    "That's me point" - Jamie Carragher

  • @gregorio5543
    @gregorio5543 26 дней назад

    Its always been that way. I think France besides PSG never had a team with money to keep talent in France. If PSG focus on youth development alla Dortmund or Ajax, that alone could make them the best and challenge. Would be a smart move too as it'll solve players playing for the shirt over a paycheck

  • @Theoneswholive723
    @Theoneswholive723 29 дней назад +1

    They Dutch and the Italian leagues ruled in the 80s n 90s

  • @Kawabounga69
    @Kawabounga69 Месяц назад +2

    Too much taxes in France. When you give 100 eur to an employee, you also give 100 eur to the state.

    • @francoisperrin7397
      @francoisperrin7397 Месяц назад

      Some taxes are capped but you must earn above 250 000 euros to know that detail. That's 2500 times the simple amount you considered as an example and when you earn that much, you can hire an accountant to make you pay even less taxes than the average worker does in France. That's the reality of super rich people which I presume you and I don't know.

    • @Kawabounga69
      @Kawabounga69 Месяц назад

      @@francoisperrin7397 The question was: why french clubs can't keep their best players, to be more competitive? Mostly because of lack of money: less tv rights, highest income and corporation taxes in Europe, ...Last year Psg paid 180 millions of contribution, none of other french clubs can afford to do that. Plus the DNCG control that prevent french clubs from being in deficit.

    • @bobich1244
      @bobich1244 Месяц назад

      Looooool so the Saudi is the best competitive league for you ???? Leave France alone

  • @salfetka
    @salfetka Месяц назад

    Interesting what Henry says but Germany won the World Cup a few years ago but most of them played in Germany. They didn't play in Spain and England.

  • @EthanBSide
    @EthanBSide 21 день назад

    Was that Thierry taking a pish on the Dutch VOC East India Company 3/400 years after?! 😂

  • @ngolokante3260
    @ngolokante3260 Месяц назад +1

    The only team in France that has the ability to hang on to players is psg. Other clubs are forced to let their best talents leave

  • @MrBCAM
    @MrBCAM 29 дней назад

    The Italians took quite a few too back in the 90s

  • @jaydee8553
    @jaydee8553 Месяц назад

    The problem is also high taxations at the club level which makes it difficult to bring players except for PSG who have unlimited money. We are in the business of selling our players. Our club are solid but not as good however the national team is great because the massive experience our players are getting. England on the other hand doesn't really export their players. Great clubs but national team not so much.

  • @masauso100
    @masauso100 28 дней назад

    Thierry is right ✅️ it's the money money. Period.

  • @NJTRAF
    @NJTRAF Месяц назад +1

    I mean like Thierry said, it’s obviously money.
    The average annual salary in Ligue 1 (minus PSG) is about €1m … that’s about €20k per week.
    There are players in the English Championship on £20k a week. The average is around £10k a week.
    In the Premier League the average is £60k a week.
    So if a player has a choice to stay in France at anywhere other than PSG, or move to a Premier League club and earn £40k-£60k then OF COURSE they’re gonna make that move, a professional football career lasts around 16-18 years on average, and if you can guarantee yourself £50k a week for 5 years then you’d be stupid not to take it and stay earning £20k a week

  • @dg_eddie1242
    @dg_eddie1242 24 дня назад +1

    But why are they all leaving PSG? Cause they are not given a chance

  • @Suspended.Solitude
    @Suspended.Solitude Месяц назад

    The players are where the money is. Doesn't matter what country it's in.

  • @Luso00_
    @Luso00_ 29 дней назад

    Ligue 1 was top 3 league at one point during during the 80s and 90s. Which is why Marseille won in 93'.

  • @librarygary1618
    @librarygary1618 Месяц назад

    It's not just that other clubs are buying talent from those countries, but those countries themselves are using their resources to scout talent globally instead of focusing on the talent within their own country. It goes both ways.

  • @EmileXXI
    @EmileXXI Месяц назад +1

    So then the question would be why some countries have more money ? What economic system do they manage to pu in place ? What strategy did they have at some points to make it happen ? I think we don't really have the same fan base, people like football in France but not as much as other countries.

    • @user-vg8mv6bb7o
      @user-vg8mv6bb7o Месяц назад

      premier league, mostly tv money

    • @EmileXXI
      @EmileXXI Месяц назад

      @@user-vg8mv6bb7o how much is it for you to watch PL and CL ? Here L1 is about 23 euros and 19 euros for CL.

  • @ajantsmith6139
    @ajantsmith6139 8 дней назад

    He's right, I know he's French 🍟 but he's actually right

  • @thijshagenbeek8853
    @thijshagenbeek8853 Месяц назад

    Money builds teams. The days of one club men like Scowles, Giggs and more are no longer with us.

  • @nonnomir
    @nonnomir Месяц назад

    Brazil won a lot with almost all players abroad.