I think the reason for the releasing two chips in the same year is because Mac revenue dropped 34% year over year and they put this out as a course correction. The fact is the only SOC selling well is the M1 line and the M1 chip is so good a lot of people cannot justify spending $2,000 to get a M3 chip minus crappy specs. I have a M1 Air and it's the best computer I've ever owned. You have a great M2 machine and I think you'll be into it for years to come.
I 100% agree that that’s the reason and that’s why I get into that concept when I recommend what I think should happen to add value to the silicon releases. If we all knew M2 was releasing next year and had been enjoying M1 for the last 3 years I think there would be more demand and the M2 chips would be much better as well. Idk. Apple has been blowing their load and they need to slow down in order for consumers to desire a new product when it hits the market.
Microsoft will experience the same drop in sales if it ever moves solely to ARM processors. Many users still need a computer that can run x86/x64 based software. I typically buy whatever I want, but not everyone can spend $15K to $20K yearly on computers and gadgets.
@@ehenningsen Really? Who knew? Duh... Microsoft is moving its products to ARM based platforms. Why? Because it thinks that is the future. If it begins developing all new products natively for ARM, then it will be making a mistake that is very expensive to recover from. You're obviously unaware that software only performs well when it runs in native mode. A translation layer causes software designed and written to run on the Intel/AMD processors to run slowly or to not function properly on ARM CPUs.
@gaiustacitus4242 Microsoft isn't moving away from x86. It still is more of a powerhouse than ARM for most processes. ARM is specialized, and what some of the PC-based companies are doing is going to ARM, RISC-V and the main power machines will still utilize x86 with RISC-V architecture for specific encodings. That is the direction. It is going to be fun to watch. Let's thank Cal-Berkley for continuing to innovate the RISC standards
The M3 was big for 2 groups of people. 3D professionals waiting for Apple to finally support hardware accelerated raytracing (not available on the M2) and those on PC looking to change. For those already on an M1 or M2 and only doing video editing, this wasn't for you. Agian, this is NOT the same chip as the M2 if you are a 3D creative. It's a segment Apple has ignored for the last decade and are now trying to win back.
@@AndrewTaylorYT I think there are also market forces to consider. Intel just launched the Intel Core Ultra chips and Qualcomm's Snapdragon X Elite ARM chip is about to debut in laptops maybe as soon as CES 2024 next week. From all early accounts the Qualcomm chip is besting the M2 in bother performance and efficiency (though TBD on that). Apple couldn't allow themselves to be bested after planting the flag of efficiency superiority in just the 2nd generation of the M series along with dipping sales. Being a 3D artist, I've been waiting for the return of the Mac for a decade so this was a very welcomed upgrade for that side of the creative community.
The reason for two Mac this year is because usually Apple releases MacBook in 3rd quarter somewhere around October. Last year for the M2's they had distribution issues resulting in a delay to early this year 2023. So the M2's are the one's that had a usual release date and now Apple hopefully is back on schedule.
If they can afford to do it, great. No-one loses, and that new color is a winner! I never liked space grey but my pleasure using this, upgraded from M1 Pro, has been more than I could've hoped. @@AndrewTaylorYT
Apple loves me because I traded a perfectly fine M1 Max 10/24/32 for a M3 Pro 11/14/36. Crazy right? The only reason I did it was because the M1 was a 16” and I really wanted a 14”. The 16” was just way too big for my 4 wheel office so it never left my desk. Space Black was a bonus. Hope it doesn’t suck compared to my M1 Max. Cheers!
I HEAVILY doubt you’ll be disappointed. I made the same move from a 16 inch Max to a 14 inch purely for the size. Unless you’re working a studio with extremely dense work flows I heavily doubt you’ll feel a difference. The space black really is a gorgeous bonus.
I see a lot of video editors complain about render times not being faster. I know some people are not into specs but I do stress that consumers need to learn about the way Apple Silicon works and use system monitoring software to actually see what's going on with apps and CPU/GPU usage. Some apps uses only performance cores. Some use both performance and efficiency cores. Apple change the configurations of performance and efficiency cores in base M3pro = less performance cores vs previous gen. This year the base Pros are not as good as previous gen. If you use hardware accelerated video encoders or Neural engine, M1 to M3 basically uses same encoders and engines. So renders with minimal effects are almost the same on M1 to M3 ( pros have one hardware encoder, Max got 2 ). The big difference is in GPU, hardware accelerated raytracing and more cores for the Max. That means big boost for 3d and GPU/Ai apps, Games. Audio apps are having same issues. Software not yet optimized. Very frustrating not knowing what apps works well with the variations of Apple Silicon.
I agree. The changing of technical things like the cores has been confusing to say the least. I heavily doubt an average consumer would even be in that loop.
The pro will handle both tasks fantastically and save you some money. The max could hypothetically do them better but I doubt you need that much power.
@@Serdo70 I’d get the 12cpu and 18gpu for 200 more yea. 36 of ram if you want! I had a 32 gig on my old M1 Max and downgraded to 16 on my m2 pro. The unified memory is so quick I doubt you’ll have a problem. If you’re doing a massive orchestra in a DAW with VSTs then maybe do the ram upgrade.
I returned my base model M3 MBP purchased last week with 16GB of RAM and 1TB HD for a space black 1TB Pro chip and am very happy I did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think Apple wanted to release the M2 4-5 months sooner than they were able, because of production issues. I'm glad they didn't artificially wait with the M3 just to put distance between releases. They had the new 3 nm ready; put them out there. I disagree that there isn't much difference in the M2 and M3. Certain tests that I've seen on RUclips show a major difference, and the base M3 gives the M2 Pro a run for its money, which is impressive in less than a year; the M3 Max is right on par with the M1 Ultra. I bought an M2 Pro-Pro in May, and I also felt the pangs of envy, but I have a great laptop, and you can't keep up. I think we should all be glad that Apple is pushing new chips out so quickly. We are not going to see a jump like the M1 was over Intel, with every new generation of chips, but the ump from the original M1 to M2 and now M3 is pretty impressive. The gains in GPU performance is nothing short of amazing. They will push the Nvidia chips pretty hard in the next few years.
Should we be happy they are releasing them so quickly? I know I said this in the video but I genuinely would prefer to wait and get excited for the next big step in apples computing every 3 years rather than a minor upgrade every year that gets a collective “that’s cool”.
@@AndrewTaylorYTthe thing is you don't have to buy every release. people that are happy with the M1s can stay put. People that just got m2s are in a great spot. People like me who bought a high end laptop right before the m1s drop and saw how amazing those new chips were and counted the days till they could upgrade can now jump on the new releases. luckily for people that like having the newest specs the resale is great and there a lot of people that don't mind getting into later gens. If i wasn't such a damn sucker for black i would've got the M2 with higher specs than my m3
@@cit0110 I agree with that. Even if it was a release every 3 years I don’t think everyone would upgrade. More people would for sure but not everyone. The sales are very low compared to the initial release and I just don’t think there’s a demand for new silicone chips yet. The sales numbers kind of back that up.
@@AndrewTaylorYT I think he sales numbers are more of a biproduct of economic hardship and a lack of expendable cash among consumers. All manufacturers are going through similar paints; many of them even more significant Apple.
I agree. They should only update these every couple of years. I’m looking to upgrade from my 2019 MacBook Pro 16” to the MacBook Pro 14” M3 Max space black. However, I feel I may as well wait now with the release of the new M4 MacBook pros expected towards the later part of 2024.
Yeah. It's obnoxious how random the releases seem. I get keeping it quiet so it can be a spectacle but I wish there was some consistency so I could know if now is the time to upgrade or later is.
Thanks for the video Dude your video lighting and width of lense is perfect. Ok to let me know your camera, lense and light set up? Hope ya don't mind me asking
No problem at all! Happy you like it! I’m using the Small rig RC120B as my primary Key light then I’m using a pretty large parabolic soft box with a honey come mesh for direction. Camera wise I’m using a Sony A7IV shooting 10 bit 422 in slog 3. Lens is a Sony Gmaster 35mm f1.4 prime lens. There’s a couple other small variables to make the setup work but those are the primary tools. Of course there’s then a color grade ontop of the footage as well.
Really appreciate you getting back to me dude. Very useful information. I wouldn't have expected the large honeycomb soft box. Not sure why it always surprises me that such a large amount of light is used to produce a certain quality of light being a painter I really shouldn't be surprised. That 35mm G is absolutely gorgeous isn't. I still have an A7R2 and the video quality is excellent. Does seem like apple have gone all weird this year,a lot of confused people with M3 chip I should have bought an M1 pro when I had the chance.keep smiling,stay creative my friend and thanks one again
I mean, the short answer to your concern is that you're not expected to buy a new laptop every year or two. The incremental upgrades are for the people in the market at the time they are released, not people who just recently upgraded. I'm not even an Apple guy, but I feel like I need to defend their annual release cadence. Also the M3 got some pretty serious graphics improvements.
To be honest. I don’t really have a gripe with it. Just gotta be dramatic for the RUclips clicks. As a fan of Apple I would always love for their reveals to be massive amazing theatrical events where the products are super anticipated and exciting. The annual release makes sense for the business. The M3 is pretty awesome.
Well, if you really think about it: The target audience are those people that haven't upgraded yet to the Apple silicon. So if you have the M1 and M2 I don't think there's any sense of upgrading to the M3 not unless you just want to have the latest and the greatest. Everyone has a different level of devices. Also, PC's has different configurations of laptops coming out as more frequently than Apple does, no one complain about them...bec the people being targeted are different for each releases.
The M2 came out later than originally planned, and Apple bought all of TMSC’s 3nm chip production, so they couldn't let chips pile up for months just to create an artificial gap - that would have been very expensive. When you have the opportunity to release computers running technologies no other company has access to, you do it when it's ready. The M1 and M2 were already so good, most people using those shouldn't upgrade unless they need to jump up to the M3 Max. Apple is trying to reach the masses who haven't upgraded and it should help their holiday quarter sales, their most important quarter. Sometimes the business demands override other considerations.
I do 100% agree with this. I was aware of the fact that Apple had bought up all the 3nm chips and that the M2 had been cut from last years Q4 event. They had to push something out this year for Q4. Going forward though I’d love to see a slower approach.
My m2 macbook SSD drive failed right after the warranty ended. I lost ALL my family pictures. I was told by Apple too bad, buy another one! All the parts are soldered on and can't be fixed! This is like buying a jeep and getting a flat tire and being told to buy another jeep! When is someone going to get a class action suit against Apple?!
That’s pretty crazy. I’m sorry to hear that. It’s kinda hard to say with these machines. The fact they are so integrated makes the technology better and faster but it does come with major repair draw backs. Apple has been pushing a little towards the right to repair again so I’m hoping at some point a good middle ground is found.
When they start churning out these incremental really tiny increases in performance and so many different confusing iterations ,it looks like apple is fleecing or tying to fleece consumers.
I’m thinking of either getting the M3 Pro 16” with 36gb, I want it for some light 4k video editing and photoshop, is 36gb an overkill? Should I just got with the 18gb with 512gb storage? Thanks!!
It’s up to you and your budget! I generally get at least 1 TB of storage but I know plenty of people that get the 512 gigabyte and just get tons of external storage. It’s up to you in the end. That machine will easily do the job for you though.
I was gonna buy the M3, as my intel MBP died, but when I found they lowered the amount of performance cores, I started thinking twice. Plus the unbinned version only adds one extra core (overall losing 2 cores in comparison with the M2. Not a great deal to pay an extra €270 just for one core). So, I'm probably going to buy an M2 instead, which I can't find anywhere to buy as a laptop so I'll have to go with an M2 mini
@@AndrewTaylorYTNope, they don't have any M2 macs on their site, only the crappy 13' touchbar or mac ultras starting at €5000, nothing in between. I just cannot buy a macbook pro M2 anywhere in EU
I finally am able to start saving up for a new mac upgrade (I tend to only upgrade every 10 years) and im really hoping they'll announce an M3 Ultra studio this summer so I don’t feel like an idiot for paying full price for an M2. I use a lot of adobe stuff for work and a lot of zbrush in my own time so definitely curious about the raytracing benefit on M3s and how that translates to rendering scenes or viz dev in unreal engine... right now i cant do any of it.
I’m excited for you! I’m sure the M3 ultra studio is right around the corner. Hoping the ray tracing and extra gpu power works wonders for you! Thanks so much for watching!
First let me say, if you pick-up any new Apple computer from a retail Apple store and within 30-days (1-month) a newer model comes out (even though it is after the standard no questions asked the 2-week return policy) they will take it back. In addition, if it has been between 30-days to 60-days (2-months), if you make a fuss and order a new model on the spot most time they will also accept it as a return. It is when your new system is only 3-months old when, you really get screwed! It would have been better for Apple, Inc. to release as follows: M-1/2/3 and M-1/2/3 Pro chips then within the next 12-months release M-1/2/3 Max and M-1/2/3 Ultra chips. However, your three (3)-year upgrade cycle makes a lot of since for me when it comes to the Mac OS. Where, a new Mac OS would be released only once every three (3) -year period (smile...smile).
Hmmm. I wonder if it’s too late for me then. Was the middle of August when I got my M2 pro. I’m happy to stick with it. Like I said though it just makes my purchase feel less valuable. Still really enjoy the laptop though. The chip release cycle is already kinda messy. I like the idea of all 3 of the chips releasing. I’d be down for the m3 ultra to release along the other three as well. I just wish they had more time to bake.
Because the untimely release of intel’s new chips., Apple needed to release something to go head to head with,. But as it turned out the m3 was overkill in comparison to what intel brought out
@@AndrewTaylorYT i guess they really kept their cards really close to their chest,. Because if Apple had known the performance gap of the new Intel chips they should haven’t brought out the m3 atleast until 2024.. the M2 chips could even surpass from all the benchmarking techtubers are showing
I have seven - yes, 7 - Macs, three of which are Intel. I still need the Intel Macs to run Windows. And, yes, I know about Windows 11 Pro ARM but it won't run all of my applications. Apple could have sold me two new MacBook Pros this year if it had both Intel and M3 options.
I don’t think they will ever release a new Intel model outside of maybe Mac pros. Their whole software has completely shifted to ARM. Bootcamping windows on Intel Macs was so so easy and I do kind of miss how easy it was.
@@AndrewTaylorYT I run Windows on Mac as VM's under Parallels 19. It works very well and allows me to run all my development environments on a single laptop when away from the office.
@@mendodsoregonbackroads6632 pretty sure they are selling an Intel Mac Pro along side the apple silicon one? I could be wrong but I thought I had heard that they were keeping it around for users that NEED an Intel chip.
I agree on why Apple doesn't need to upgrade every year on chips. My current MBP is a 2012 Core i7 maxed out spec wise. Yep, it makes sense for me to upgrade to the M3 Pro. My desktop in a M1 mini with 512 SSD. Its decent but the M3 Pro will be an descent upgrade for my usage. Light FCP X and Lightroom and Photoshop usage.
I run Capture One Pro 21 and all latest Affinity programs... on a 2013 full spec, I7 quad core (Ivy bridge virtual 8cores), 16GBRAM and 512SSD. It still performs very very well! Only now after 10 years, bottle necked and stuck with Big Sur OS, I start to think about investing in a new Apple computer... But basicly I can process Photo's perfectly with a 10 year old computer...
I'm frustrated with Apple's 0utrage0us prices for RAM and SSD upgrades in the Mac computers. For many people, that is a deal breaker right there. In 2024, RAM and SSD are cheap commodities. There's no justification for Apple's sky high pr1ces.
I agree. Curious to see if it ever changes. The unified memory isn’t to frustrating for me as it’s ridiculously good even at low configurations but the storage is so brutal.
@@AndrewTaylorYT People that buy a Mac with only 8gb of RAM (in 2024!!), will find that the GPU uses some of that, leaving the machine *starved* *for* *RAM* . And then what? Mac allows zero upgrades. Windows PCs now come standard with 32gb of RAM, because it costs like 80 d0llars. RAM chips are cheap commodities, made by the millions in giant factories. There is nothing special or exotic about RAM, these days.
Your whole point of the video is that Apple releases new chips too soon but we don’t do that for you or anyone to get a new laptop every year. I mean, you can, and we thank you for it. But you don’t need to. You should have your own upgrade cycle regardless of how often Apple upgrades devices.
And everyone will. I did say I think it would be valuable to share holders to have a larger hype cycle for the chips which would more than likely lead to more demand for them. Less people buy laptops as frequently as iPhones but it seems like Apple is trying to make sales numbers of laptops come closer to the phones. By throwing out new chips every other quarter they’re trying to create demand and boost sales. I think they should step back and focus on quality over quantity.
@@AndrewTaylorYT But imagine how frustrated you'd be if you bought a device a couple months before and then apple drops the 3 year refresh. I agree with the original commenter that a more minor refresh every year gives people the chance to upgrade more frequently when they need and those who are happy with their previous device can just hold onto it. But regardless, great video man! Truly impressed by the quality and analysis, shocked you don't have thousands if not hundreds of thousands of subscribers. Definitely gained one today! Keep up the great work!
Idk man. Some people just want a normal do everything laptop but they also want fantastic speakers and a drop dead gorgeous display. This base model gets you all of that for less than you’d spend on a pro chip.
Cool video and some interesting thoughts! I think a new Mac every two or three years is too long. Some folks will buy the new fully specced out MBP every year no matter what. Also, for those that skip 1 cycle they will have to wait 4 or more years for a new Mac. Personally im fine with a new Mac release every year even though I probably won't buy a new one every year.
That’s completely fair. I’d revise my thought then to be specifically targeting major chip releases. The M2 was essentially just an M1 mark 2. I guess I’d prefer them to be more contained. I’d prefer to get super excited about the potential of the brand new chip line up. Currently I feel like they all feel more or less the same. Thanks so much for watching!
@@AndrewTaylorYT I'm with you on the major chip releases. I have a late 2021 M1 Max MBP and the M2 ship didn't excite me at all (except I did get excited about the M2 Mac Book Air and bought one on release day!!). Even the M3 is very tempting but I won't be buying it since my M1 Max is rolling for me just fine. I will probably buy the M4 when it rolls out (hopefully) next year. Great video and I enjoyed the discussion. Keep up the great work. I just subscribed 👍👍
Thanks so much! Means the world that you enjoyed the video. M1 MacBook Air to an M3 pro MacBook Pro would be such an awesome upgrade. Excited for you if that’s what you do!
@@AndrewTaylorYT I’ve done a lot of great things with it, I’m a graphic designer and also do some video editing and it has handled what I do very well, but I’d love to see what the M3 has to offer, I’ll always forever love the MacBook M1
Absolutely right. This story can't be told often enough. You don't always need the latest and greatest. I'm not sure if this means that Apple shouldn't release new Macs every year, but apparently there will always be people that _absolutely must_ have the latest model, just for prestige. And that's bad, that's just producing more e-waste and push the exploitation of our planet. So in the end, I have to agree, even though this means that if I need a new Mac just before a new line of Macs is released, I'd have to get a two years old machine. But personally, I'd always go for a refurbished one anyway.
I agree! Not only is it better for the environment it’s also just kind of exciting for the super big announcement every couple years. Thanks for watching!
Apple do not need to schedule the launch so everyone buys it to upgrade. You are free to upgrade every third year and getting better performance increase. No need to upgrade every year because new one is released and people can upgrade not when apple release but when they need upgrade personally.
I think the fact people start moving to use apple macbook is because the price is getting super ridiculous. 48gb sodimm 5600 is cost usd$170 for macbook I think it cost you 3x 😅 4tb of nvme ssd it cost you $200 If you upgrade macbook pro from 512gb to 4tb it cost you $1800 😅😢 I believe people just have concern about it 😂
I agree with you for the most part. Less than 1 year doesn't make sense from a product management standpoint. Even if it was 1 year, no one would just casually throw away a good M2 Pro laptop. Maybe change the M2 Air if they didn't get 16 GB of RAM and 512 GB of SSD.
If it's in good nick, sell the older one or part-exchange with Apple for the new one. Or, if you're lucky enough to be flush, pass it on to a poorer pal like I did and make their day
Same lol. Part of me still doesn’t think I’d annually update if I was rich. Idk if it’s just me but I get a bit of anxiety getting new machines sometimes. I’m so used to and comfortable with my current device I’m always worried something won’t transfer or work and it’ll be frustrating.
@@paulmark992 well I’m sure Google appreciates it. Hoping to get some ad sense going here before I reach my first 365 days which will be in August. Harder to make videos as I just started school but I’ve got a “studio display in 2024” video I’m excited to release by the end of the week!
What's that sandpaper sound in the background? Keeps on recycle pattern. Maybe, it's someone just walking on rainy pavement with old fashioned galoshes. Whatever it is, plz get rid of that sound in any future videos! Good luck with ur new channel. 😎😎
The 16 inch M3 Max is incredible and significantly faster than past chips. For professionals, the fact that they don’t wait 3 years to release a better laptop and better chips, is excellent. Personally, I like the fact that you can expect a better and better chip each year. Also, a few days before the release of the M3 lineup, Qualcomm was touting “better processors than Apple” 😅 and that was obviously short-lived. I also believe Apple already has the technology for at least 3 generations of cpus ahead, but they are rationing that power for business reasons. ✌🏻
That makes complete sense. I just prefer having big events with big exciting releases. I enjoy the theatricality of it which I know is very low on the list of priority’s.
Sometimes they are useful but idk. I prefer sharing and knowing what it feels like to actually use and enjoy a product rather than knowing what kinda number it can pump out.
Benchmarks are presented like a confident conclusion. Whereas in reality they are a low confidence single statistical data point. They literally mean nothing. You can have a 10% benchmark variance within a sample of 30 laptops of the same model.
I think the reason for the releasing two chips in the same year is because Mac revenue dropped 34% year over year and they put this out as a course correction. The fact is the only SOC selling well is the M1 line and the M1 chip is so good a lot of people cannot justify spending $2,000 to get a M3 chip minus crappy specs. I have a M1 Air and it's the best computer I've ever owned. You have a great M2 machine and I think you'll be into it for years to come.
I 100% agree that that’s the reason and that’s why I get into that concept when I recommend what I think should happen to add value to the silicon releases. If we all knew M2 was releasing next year and had been enjoying M1 for the last 3 years I think there would be more demand and the M2 chips would be much better as well. Idk. Apple has been blowing their load and they need to slow down in order for consumers to desire a new product when it hits the market.
Microsoft will experience the same drop in sales if it ever moves solely to ARM processors. Many users still need a computer that can run x86/x64 based software.
I typically buy whatever I want, but not everyone can spend $15K to $20K yearly on computers and gadgets.
@@gaiustacitus4242Microsoft doesn't produce processors.
However - Intel, AMD, Snapdragon, NVIDIA (starting 2024/2025) and a few others do for PC
@@ehenningsen Really? Who knew? Duh...
Microsoft is moving its products to ARM based platforms. Why? Because it thinks that is the future. If it begins developing all new products natively for ARM, then it will be making a mistake that is very expensive to recover from.
You're obviously unaware that software only performs well when it runs in native mode. A translation layer causes software designed and written to run on the Intel/AMD processors to run slowly or to not function properly on ARM CPUs.
@gaiustacitus4242 Microsoft isn't moving away from x86. It still is more of a powerhouse than ARM for most processes.
ARM is specialized, and what some of the PC-based companies are doing is going to ARM, RISC-V and the main power machines will still utilize x86 with RISC-V architecture for specific encodings.
That is the direction. It is going to be fun to watch.
Let's thank Cal-Berkley for continuing to innovate the RISC standards
The M3 was big for 2 groups of people. 3D professionals waiting for Apple to finally support hardware accelerated raytracing (not available on the M2) and those on PC looking to change. For those already on an M1 or M2 and only doing video editing, this wasn't for you. Agian, this is NOT the same chip as the M2 if you are a 3D creative. It's a segment Apple has ignored for the last decade and are now trying to win back.
That’s a fair argument. Still would’ve rather seen the M2 not happen when it did and the M3 release be the M2 chip with all the m3 features.
@@AndrewTaylorYT I think there are also market forces to consider. Intel just launched the Intel Core Ultra chips and Qualcomm's Snapdragon X Elite ARM chip is about to debut in laptops maybe as soon as CES 2024 next week. From all early accounts the Qualcomm chip is besting the M2 in bother performance and efficiency (though TBD on that). Apple couldn't allow themselves to be bested after planting the flag of efficiency superiority in just the 2nd generation of the M series along with dipping sales. Being a 3D artist, I've been waiting for the return of the Mac for a decade so this was a very welcomed upgrade for that side of the creative community.
@@scottdpeterstv it’s great to hear that’s there’s a huge excitement for the models! They are awesome computers.
The reason for two Mac this year is because usually Apple releases MacBook in 3rd quarter somewhere around October. Last year for the M2's they had distribution issues resulting in a delay to early this year 2023. So the M2's are the one's that had a usual release date and now Apple hopefully is back on schedule.
Hopefully. Still think it shouldn’t be an annual release.
If they can afford to do it, great. No-one loses, and that new color is a winner! I never liked space grey but my pleasure using this, upgraded from M1 Pro, has been more than I could've hoped. @@AndrewTaylorYT
You cant say why they released 2 mac because you dont work for Apple.
@@Teluric2 This would be true if I didn’t work there. 🍉
Apple loves me because I traded a perfectly fine M1 Max 10/24/32 for a M3 Pro 11/14/36. Crazy right? The only reason I did it was because the M1 was a 16” and I really wanted a 14”. The 16” was just way too big for my 4 wheel office so it never left my desk. Space Black was a bonus. Hope it doesn’t suck compared to my M1 Max. Cheers!
I HEAVILY doubt you’ll be disappointed. I made the same move from a 16 inch Max to a 14 inch purely for the size. Unless you’re working a studio with extremely dense work flows I heavily doubt you’ll feel a difference. The space black really is a gorgeous bonus.
@@AndrewTaylorYT Thanks! Looking forward to it. Enjoying your content!
I see a lot of video editors complain about render times not being faster. I know some people are not into specs but I do stress that consumers need to learn about the way Apple Silicon works and use system monitoring software to actually see what's going on with apps and CPU/GPU usage. Some apps uses only performance cores. Some use both performance and efficiency cores. Apple change the configurations of performance and efficiency cores in base M3pro = less performance cores vs previous gen. This year the base Pros are not as good as previous gen.
If you use hardware accelerated video encoders or Neural engine, M1 to M3 basically uses same encoders and engines. So renders with minimal effects are almost the same on M1 to M3 ( pros have one hardware encoder, Max got 2 ).
The big difference is in GPU, hardware accelerated raytracing and more cores for the Max. That means big boost for 3d and GPU/Ai apps, Games.
Audio apps are having same issues. Software not yet optimized. Very frustrating not knowing what apps works well with the variations of Apple Silicon.
I agree. The changing of technical things like the cores has been confusing to say the least. I heavily doubt an average consumer would even be in that loop.
Heads up. Lower the volume of the music and you will be much better. Thank you.
Will do. I’d been playing around with music volume. No one had said anything at -16.0 decibels. I’ll drop to -18.0 and see how it goes.
Whats best for producing music and editing 4K videos, m3pro or m3 max?
The pro will handle both tasks fantastically and save you some money. The max could hypothetically do them better but I doubt you need that much power.
@@AndrewTaylorYT thank you very much, i take it with 36ram but just this confusing me..
11cpu 14gpu or should i get 12Cpu/18gpu for 200€ more?
@@Serdo70 I’d get the 12cpu and 18gpu for 200 more yea. 36 of ram if you want! I had a 32 gig on my old M1 Max and downgraded to 16 on my m2 pro. The unified memory is so quick I doubt you’ll have a problem. If you’re doing a massive orchestra in a DAW with VSTs then maybe do the ram upgrade.
Thank you, I ordered it! In Germany we say „Ehrenmann“ 😎💯
@@Serdo70 congrats!
I returned my base model M3 MBP purchased last week with 16GB of RAM and 1TB HD for a space black 1TB Pro chip and am very happy I did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good to hear. The pro chip is honestly the move. It shreds.
I think Apple wanted to release the M2 4-5 months sooner than they were able, because of production issues. I'm glad they didn't artificially wait with the M3 just to put distance between releases. They had the new 3 nm ready; put them out there. I disagree that there isn't much difference in the M2 and M3. Certain tests that I've seen on RUclips show a major difference, and the base M3 gives the M2 Pro a run for its money, which is impressive in less than a year; the M3 Max is right on par with the M1 Ultra.
I bought an M2 Pro-Pro in May, and I also felt the pangs of envy, but I have a great laptop, and you can't keep up.
I think we should all be glad that Apple is pushing new chips out so quickly. We are not going to see a jump like the M1 was over Intel, with every new generation of chips, but the ump from the original M1 to M2 and now M3 is pretty impressive. The gains in GPU performance is nothing short of amazing. They will push the Nvidia chips pretty hard in the next few years.
Should we be happy they are releasing them so quickly? I know I said this in the video but I genuinely would prefer to wait and get excited for the next big step in apples computing every 3 years rather than a minor upgrade every year that gets a collective “that’s cool”.
@@AndrewTaylorYTthe thing is you don't have to buy every release. people that are happy with the M1s can stay put. People that just got m2s are in a great spot. People like me who bought a high end laptop right before the m1s drop and saw how amazing those new chips were and counted the days till they could upgrade can now jump on the new releases. luckily for people that like having the newest specs the resale is great and there a lot of people that don't mind getting into later gens. If i wasn't such a damn sucker for black i would've got the M2 with higher specs than my m3
@@cit0110 I agree with that. Even if it was a release every 3 years I don’t think everyone would upgrade. More people would for sure but not everyone. The sales are very low compared to the initial release and I just don’t think there’s a demand for new silicone chips yet. The sales numbers kind of back that up.
You can do that anyway. So the small minority who upgrade more frequently benefit and so do you@@AndrewTaylorYT
@@AndrewTaylorYT I think he sales numbers are more of a biproduct of economic hardship and a lack of expendable cash among consumers. All manufacturers are going through similar paints; many of them even more significant Apple.
The reason for two MacBook releases in the same year was that the M2 was late. The M3 was on time.
Allegedly
I agree. They should only update these every couple of years. I’m looking to upgrade from my 2019 MacBook Pro 16” to the MacBook Pro 14” M3 Max space black. However, I feel I may as well wait now with the release of the new M4 MacBook pros expected towards the later part of 2024.
Yeah. It's obnoxious how random the releases seem. I get keeping it quiet so it can be a spectacle but I wish there was some consistency so I could know if now is the time to upgrade or later is.
Thanks for the video Dude your video lighting and width of lense is perfect.
Ok to let me know your camera, lense and light set up? Hope ya don't mind me asking
No problem at all! Happy you like it! I’m using the Small rig RC120B as my primary Key light then I’m using a pretty large parabolic soft box with a honey come mesh for direction. Camera wise I’m using a Sony A7IV shooting 10 bit 422 in slog 3. Lens is a Sony Gmaster 35mm f1.4 prime lens. There’s a couple other small variables to make the setup work but those are the primary tools. Of course there’s then a color grade ontop of the footage as well.
Really appreciate you getting back to me dude.
Very useful information.
I wouldn't have expected the large honeycomb soft box. Not sure why it always surprises me that such a large amount of light is used to produce a certain quality of light being a painter I really shouldn't be surprised.
That 35mm G is absolutely gorgeous isn't.
I still have an A7R2 and the video quality is excellent. Does seem like apple have gone all weird this year,a lot of confused people with M3 chip I should have bought an M1 pro when I had the chance.keep smiling,stay creative my friend and thanks one again
I mean, the short answer to your concern is that you're not expected to buy a new laptop every year or two. The incremental upgrades are for the people in the market at the time they are released, not people who just recently upgraded. I'm not even an Apple guy, but I feel like I need to defend their annual release cadence. Also the M3 got some pretty serious graphics improvements.
To be honest. I don’t really have a gripe with it. Just gotta be dramatic for the RUclips clicks. As a fan of Apple I would always love for their reveals to be massive amazing theatrical events where the products are super anticipated and exciting. The annual release makes sense for the business. The M3 is pretty awesome.
I just want to say, this video had no feeling of a small youtuber. Incredible video and some awesome points.
That means a lot! Thanks so much.😊
Well, if you really think about it: The target audience are those people that haven't upgraded yet to the Apple silicon. So if you have the M1 and M2 I don't think there's any sense of upgrading to the M3 not unless you just want to have the latest and the greatest. Everyone has a different level of devices. Also, PC's has different configurations of laptops coming out as more frequently than Apple does, no one complain about them...bec the people being targeted are different for each releases.
Very true
You made perfect sense , thank you for reiterating what many felt.
Thanks so much for watching! I do my best. Glad I’m not the only one who thought that.
The M2 came out later than originally planned, and Apple bought all of TMSC’s 3nm chip production, so they couldn't let chips pile up for months just to create an artificial gap - that would have been very expensive. When you have the opportunity to release computers running technologies no other company has access to, you do it when it's ready. The M1 and M2 were already so good, most people using those shouldn't upgrade unless they need to jump up to the M3 Max. Apple is trying to reach the masses who haven't upgraded and it should help their holiday quarter sales, their most important quarter. Sometimes the business demands override other considerations.
I do 100% agree with this. I was aware of the fact that Apple had bought up all the 3nm chips and that the M2 had been cut from last years Q4 event. They had to push something out this year for Q4. Going forward though I’d love to see a slower approach.
A very valid point to have a 3 year launch cycle for laptop processors
Thanks! Would love for that to be the case.
My m2 macbook SSD drive failed right after the warranty ended. I lost ALL my family pictures. I was told by Apple too bad, buy another one! All the parts are soldered on and can't be fixed! This is like buying a jeep and getting a flat tire and being told to buy another jeep! When is someone going to get a class action suit against Apple?!
That’s pretty crazy. I’m sorry to hear that. It’s kinda hard to say with these machines. The fact they are so integrated makes the technology better and faster but it does come with major repair draw backs. Apple has been pushing a little towards the right to repair again so I’m hoping at some point a good middle ground is found.
When they start churning out these incremental really tiny increases in performance and so many different confusing iterations ,it looks like apple is fleecing or tying to fleece consumers.
I wouldn’t really say it’s fleecing but if you’re someone who keeps up with all the latest and greatest it’s less exciting.
the m3 max chip seems to have the most performance gains over anything else
That is true.
I’m thinking of either getting the M3 Pro 16” with 36gb, I want it for some light 4k video editing and photoshop, is 36gb an overkill? Should I just got with the 18gb with 512gb storage? Thanks!!
It’s up to you and your budget! I generally get at least 1 TB of storage but I know plenty of people that get the 512 gigabyte and just get tons of external storage. It’s up to you in the end. That machine will easily do the job for you though.
@@AndrewTaylorYT Thanks 🙏🏾
@@truehousephotos8385 anytime friend!
I was gonna buy the M3, as my intel MBP died, but when I found they lowered the amount of performance cores, I started thinking twice. Plus the unbinned version only adds one extra core (overall losing 2 cores in comparison with the M2. Not a great deal to pay an extra €270 just for one core). So, I'm probably going to buy an M2 instead, which I can't find anywhere to buy as a laptop so I'll have to go with an M2 mini
Give the Apple refurbished website a good look! I’m sure they have some M2 models on there!
@@AndrewTaylorYTNope, they don't have any M2 macs on their site, only the crappy 13' touchbar or mac ultras starting at €5000, nothing in between. I just cannot buy a macbook pro M2 anywhere in EU
I finally am able to start saving up for a new mac upgrade (I tend to only upgrade every 10 years) and im really hoping they'll announce an M3 Ultra studio this summer so I don’t feel like an idiot for paying full price for an M2. I use a lot of adobe stuff for work and a lot of zbrush in my own time so definitely curious about the raytracing benefit on M3s and how that translates to rendering scenes or viz dev in unreal engine... right now i cant do any of it.
I’m excited for you! I’m sure the M3 ultra studio is right around the corner. Hoping the ray tracing and extra gpu power works wonders for you! Thanks so much for watching!
First let me say, if you pick-up any new Apple computer from a retail Apple store and within 30-days (1-month) a newer model comes out (even though it is after the standard no questions asked the 2-week return policy) they will take it back. In addition, if it has been between 30-days to 60-days (2-months), if you make a fuss and order a new model on the spot most time they will also accept it as a return. It is when your new system is only 3-months old when, you really get screwed!
It would have been better for Apple, Inc. to release as follows: M-1/2/3 and M-1/2/3 Pro chips then within the next 12-months release M-1/2/3 Max and M-1/2/3 Ultra chips. However, your three (3)-year upgrade cycle makes a lot of since for me when it comes to the Mac OS. Where, a new Mac OS would be released only once every three (3) -year period (smile...smile).
Hmmm. I wonder if it’s too late for me then. Was the middle of August when I got my M2 pro. I’m happy to stick with it. Like I said though it just makes my purchase feel less valuable. Still really enjoy the laptop though. The chip release cycle is already kinda messy. I like the idea of all 3 of the chips releasing. I’d be down for the m3 ultra to release along the other three as well. I just wish they had more time to bake.
WAIT. So Apple released M2 and a M3 chip MCP in the same year?
They did. It was a January and October release if I remember correctly. May have been February.
Because the untimely release of intel’s new chips., Apple needed to release something to go head to head with,. But as it turned out the m3 was overkill in comparison to what intel brought out
That is true. They kinda had to in order to compete.
@@AndrewTaylorYT i guess they really kept their cards really close to their chest,. Because if Apple had known the performance gap of the new Intel chips they should haven’t brought out the m3 atleast until 2024.. the M2 chips could even surpass from all the benchmarking techtubers are showing
@@charvlim5159 Im super curious to see what apple does going forward. The M5 or M6 is gonna have to be a really interesting chip.
I have seven - yes, 7 - Macs, three of which are Intel. I still need the Intel Macs to run Windows. And, yes, I know about Windows 11 Pro ARM but it won't run all of my applications.
Apple could have sold me two new MacBook Pros this year if it had both Intel and M3 options.
I don’t think they will ever release a new Intel model outside of maybe Mac pros. Their whole software has completely shifted to ARM. Bootcamping windows on Intel Macs was so so easy and I do kind of miss how easy it was.
@@AndrewTaylorYT I run Windows on Mac as VM's under Parallels 19. It works very well and allows me to run all my development environments on a single laptop when away from the office.
@@AndrewTaylorYTThe latest Mac Pro with the M1 Ultra chip, was the end of Intel in any Apple apple computer.
@@mendodsoregonbackroads6632 pretty sure they are selling an Intel Mac Pro along side the apple silicon one? I could be wrong but I thought I had heard that they were keeping it around for users that NEED an Intel chip.
I agree on why Apple doesn't need to upgrade every year on chips. My current MBP is a 2012 Core i7 maxed out spec wise. Yep, it makes sense for me to upgrade to the M3 Pro. My desktop in a M1 mini with 512 SSD. Its decent but the M3 Pro will be an descent upgrade for my usage. Light FCP X and Lightroom and Photoshop usage.
You will LOVE the m3 pro.
I run Capture One Pro 21 and all latest Affinity programs... on a 2013 full spec, I7 quad core (Ivy bridge virtual 8cores), 16GBRAM and 512SSD. It still performs very very well! Only now after 10 years, bottle necked and stuck with Big Sur OS, I start to think about investing in a new Apple computer... But basicly I can process Photo's perfectly with a 10 year old computer...
I bought the m1 ultra and 1 month later apple released the m2 ultra studio ..at the same price lol😢
I feel your pain… so sorry.
I'm frustrated with Apple's 0utrage0us prices for RAM and SSD upgrades in the Mac computers. For many people, that is a deal breaker right there.
In 2024, RAM and SSD are cheap commodities. There's no justification for Apple's sky high pr1ces.
I agree. Curious to see if it ever changes. The unified memory isn’t to frustrating for me as it’s ridiculously good even at low configurations but the storage is so brutal.
@@AndrewTaylorYT People that buy a Mac with only 8gb of RAM (in 2024!!), will find that the GPU uses some of that, leaving the machine *starved* *for* *RAM* . And then what? Mac allows zero upgrades.
Windows PCs now come standard with 32gb of RAM, because it costs like 80 d0llars.
RAM chips are cheap commodities, made by the millions in giant factories. There is nothing special or exotic about RAM, these days.
Gotta be one of nicest set up i have seen.
Hey thanks so much!
Your whole point of the video is that Apple releases new chips too soon but we don’t do that for you or anyone to get a new laptop every year. I mean, you can, and we thank you for it. But you don’t need to. You should have your own upgrade cycle regardless of how often Apple upgrades devices.
And everyone will. I did say I think it would be valuable to share holders to have a larger hype cycle for the chips which would more than likely lead to more demand for them. Less people buy laptops as frequently as iPhones but it seems like Apple is trying to make sales numbers of laptops come closer to the phones. By throwing out new chips every other quarter they’re trying to create demand and boost sales. I think they should step back and focus on quality over quantity.
@@AndrewTaylorYT But imagine how frustrated you'd be if you bought a device a couple months before and then apple drops the 3 year refresh. I agree with the original commenter that a more minor refresh every year gives people the chance to upgrade more frequently when they need and those who are happy with their previous device can just hold onto it. But regardless, great video man! Truly impressed by the quality and analysis, shocked you don't have thousands if not hundreds of thousands of subscribers. Definitely gained one today! Keep up the great work!
@@oliverniehaus7159 more than likely wouldn’t buy a new device before a long term refresh. The leaks got us informed. :D
@@oliverniehaus7159 also thank you for the love. I’ve been working hard the last month or 2 and having a ton of fun making videos. Glad you enjoyed!
i think people are not buying 8 gig / 512 tb as base model if its under the pro line. apple should rethink the base model specs. for 2024
Idk man. Some people just want a normal do everything laptop but they also want fantastic speakers and a drop dead gorgeous display. This base model gets you all of that for less than you’d spend on a pro chip.
@@AndrewTaylorYT meh still not justifiable for me though. great video btw
@@icweener1636 thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it!
Cool video and some interesting thoughts! I think a new Mac every two or three years is too long. Some folks will buy the new fully specced out MBP every year no matter what. Also, for those that skip 1 cycle they will have to wait 4 or more years for a new Mac. Personally im fine with a new Mac release every year even though I probably won't buy a new one every year.
That’s completely fair. I’d revise my thought then to be specifically targeting major chip releases. The M2 was essentially just an M1 mark 2. I guess I’d prefer them to be more contained. I’d prefer to get super excited about the potential of the brand new chip line up. Currently I feel like they all feel more or less the same. Thanks so much for watching!
@@AndrewTaylorYT I'm with you on the major chip releases. I have a late 2021 M1 Max MBP and the M2 ship didn't excite me at all (except I did get excited about the M2 Mac Book Air and bought one on release day!!). Even the M3 is very tempting but I won't be buying it since my M1 Max is rolling for me just fine. I will probably buy the M4 when it rolls out (hopefully) next year. Great video and I enjoyed the discussion. Keep up the great work. I just subscribed 👍👍
Great Video, I just subscribed! thinking about updating my MacBook Air M1 to MacBook Pro M3
Thanks so much! Means the world that you enjoyed the video. M1 MacBook Air to an M3 pro MacBook Pro would be such an awesome upgrade. Excited for you if that’s what you do!
@@AndrewTaylorYT I’ve done a lot of great things with it, I’m a graphic designer and also do some video editing and it has handled what I do very well, but I’d love to see what the M3 has to offer, I’ll always forever love the MacBook M1
@@codyshorrorcollection it was such a great value machine. Chip wise it’ll be faster yes but that display and the speakers are next level.
I just like that things get way cheaper as more macs come out lol
That’s fair lol. Refurbished M1 Mac’s are an incredible deal.
Absolutely right. This story can't be told often enough. You don't always need the latest and greatest. I'm not sure if this means that Apple shouldn't release new Macs every year, but apparently there will always be people that _absolutely must_ have the latest model, just for prestige. And that's bad, that's just producing more e-waste and push the exploitation of our planet. So in the end, I have to agree, even though this means that if I need a new Mac just before a new line of Macs is released, I'd have to get a two years old machine. But personally, I'd always go for a refurbished one anyway.
I agree! Not only is it better for the environment it’s also just kind of exciting for the super big announcement every couple years. Thanks for watching!
When someone who do not like their mac notebook first says the notebook color is dark or dark fray, I laugh.
Huh?
Apple do not need to schedule the launch so everyone buys it to upgrade. You are free to upgrade every third year and getting better performance increase. No need to upgrade every year because new one is released and people can upgrade not when apple release but when they need upgrade personally.
I mean obviously. It would probably help the Mac sales numbers though.
The use of more efficiency cores ruins it
The issue really isn’t the power.
Nobody is forced to upgrade so let apple do what it wants and enjoy the super M1
I didn’t say anyone was forcing me to upgrade😂
subbed!!! keep it up bro
Thank you so much. Means the world!😊
I think the fact people start moving to use apple macbook is because the price is getting super ridiculous.
48gb sodimm 5600 is cost usd$170 for macbook I think it cost you 3x 😅
4tb of nvme ssd it cost you $200
If you upgrade macbook pro from 512gb to 4tb it cost you $1800 😅😢
I believe people just have concern about it 😂
I don’t think that’s the reason people are moving to use MacBooks. I think people love how high quality the product is.
I agree with you for the most part. Less than 1 year doesn't make sense from a product management standpoint. Even if it was 1 year, no one would just casually throw away a good M2 Pro laptop. Maybe change the M2 Air if they didn't get 16 GB of RAM and 512 GB of SSD.
Right?!?!
If it's in good nick, sell the older one or part-exchange with Apple for the new one. Or, if you're lucky enough to be flush, pass it on to a poorer pal like I did and make their day
The news will love the new M3 they'll laptop them up and dump their old machines at a blink of an eye. Wish I was that rich lol.
Same lol. Part of me still doesn’t think I’d annually update if I was rich. Idk if it’s just me but I get a bit of anxiety getting new machines sometimes. I’m so used to and comfortable with my current device I’m always worried something won’t transfer or work and it’ll be frustrating.
Thats interesting, you have at this moment 571 subs and you have ads on your channel
I do? That’s odd. I haven’t even hit the first level of monetization yet. Need a couple hundred more watch hours. Sorry about that.
@@AndrewTaylorYT lol, please don’t apologize. If you make good content ill pay you with my ad views, lol.
@@paulmark992 well I’m sure Google appreciates it. Hoping to get some ad sense going here before I reach my first 365 days which will be in August. Harder to make videos as I just started school but I’ve got a “studio display in 2024” video I’m excited to release by the end of the week!
@@AndrewTaylorYT looking forward to it.
So many hot takes
I did start spewing alot of hot takes this video😂
What's that sandpaper sound in the background? Keeps on recycle pattern. Maybe, it's someone just walking on rainy pavement with old fashioned galoshes. Whatever it is, plz get rid of that sound in any future videos! Good luck with ur new channel. 😎😎
Sand paper noise? No body hasn’t mentioned that and I’m not hearing what you’re referring to. Sure it’s not an audio monitoring issue?
The 16 inch M3 Max is incredible and significantly faster than past chips. For professionals, the fact that they don’t wait 3 years to release a better laptop and better chips, is excellent. Personally, I like the fact that you can expect a better and better chip each year. Also, a few days before the release of the M3 lineup, Qualcomm was touting “better processors than Apple” 😅 and that was obviously short-lived. I also believe Apple already has the technology for at least 3 generations of cpus ahead, but they are rationing that power for business reasons. ✌🏻
That makes complete sense. I just prefer having big events with big exciting releases. I enjoy the theatricality of it which I know is very low on the list of priority’s.
Yeah, benchmarks are stupid.
Sometimes they are useful but idk. I prefer sharing and knowing what it feels like to actually use and enjoy a product rather than knowing what kinda number it can pump out.
Benchmarks are presented like a confident conclusion. Whereas in reality they are a low confidence single statistical data point. They literally mean nothing. You can have a 10% benchmark variance within a sample of 30 laptops of the same model.
@@voxtelnismo very true.