@@sheridoncary2602 You need to avoid a 1v1 + count on your teammate to save you if you got stuck in a combo. And you need to make sure you kept a good distance.
You can tell that person knows what's up if they're running away from Epyon. This is why I think it's harder to abuse Epyon against a yolo type player or masher as they don't fear you.
Thanks again, Minato. Knowing that sub has shooting guard, and knowing how 2B has a great range for combo start up REALLY encouraged me to fight braver and better with Epyon.
Epyon is extremely scary to fight against once it managed to down you and force a wake up game (especially if you have a slow boi machine like Extreme Eclipse, or god forbid Raphael), but overall I find it not as nerve wrecking as Bael who at least has shooting and movement options to deal with melee counters and beam/stun things, both of which are painful for Epyon to counter especially if the enemy knows what they can do
I think Epyon makes up for lack of range options with it's map presence since when he DOES touch you, you're losing 200+ HP from his insane melee damage. Player knows this, so they will stay away from Epyon. He's "A" tier for a reason. It really test player how to handle its output. And nothing's more satisfying to think they are safe behind their Super Armor only to be "MUDAMUDAMUDA" out of their SA with pure melee.
@@stygiandragon3865 Compared to Bael Epyon excels at striking insanely quickly with a long range of attack (thanks to whip), while Bael is like a juggernaut that forcefully presses forward
@@周生生-f1f And it fits the characters that pilot them. Zech is a skilled and experienced soldier that has a weird interest in the way of honor knights. So he knows how to dish out fast and powerful blows in a skillful manner and closes gaps. While McGillis, skillful, yes. But is obsessed in strength to forcefully charge through, hence the SA in one of his move. "You dare to defy me, who has Bael?" after all.
The og jing of melee. All it needs is the flip attack from gundam versus and its set. I do love Epyon.. Its like playing a real fighting game when doing inputs
The thing that i love about epyon os that his abab combo can dealy the super armor moves until they get downed,like pressures,fazz gerobis or bael sub That's *menacing*
@@stygiandragon3865 i'll explain this to you: When you get hit during a super armor (our example will be the fazz gerobi) it get delayed for a bit. Epyon can do so much hit in few seconds and can delay a lot a super armor move and because the SA attack doesn't start,you can down an enemy that is doing that attack. But you must be rapid with the ababab combo and never slow down it,or you'll get raped from the SA attack.
@@stygiandragon3865 guard is not totally safe because of the whip if you're guarding and epyon simply go to your flanks or back and throw the whip to you...well,sayonara. This most of the time during the wakeup where epyon can be everywhere (above you,right,left...) And a guard is not guranteed to parry to the right side where the whip is cominh
Ah yes, the other BEAST of a suit from Wing. Almost literally. There's a reason why Zech/Milliardo & Heero are 2 of the most badass pilots ever, considering they mastered both this thing & its brother, The Zero. They really don't make Final Boss Gundams like they used to. Anyways, the Epyon is EXVS' challenge to people to lab like fucking crazy & git gud. No range weapons, just studying the art of the blade. And also ABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABAB- Side note: Kara No Kyoukai soundtrack? Ah, I see you are a man of culture as well.
@@fakhriqant8359 It's the main theme for whenever Shiki kicks ass, tho slightly arranged I think. Edit: I think the song's official name is Thanatos. Kinda apt, don't you think?
So what can Epyon do that Bael can't? I feel like Bael has all epyons strengths and but also ranged attacks, super armor, and better movement. I love Epyon, but he feels outclassed in this one.
It's mainly the whip and wakeup game. The shooting guard on whip making it hard to shoot back. Going up? dash-stun. Melee back? Got whip. Guard? Overheat whip etc. I think you get the idea. I feel like you have more options when it's come to running away from Bael. Sure some of the super armor can go through it but Epyon also can step and mash it through the armor as well. I think they're about equal but Bael is way more accessible.
@@mitchmediak I think the best comparison is how skilled the pilot is. I’ve seen baels fold entire teams near single handedly and epyon likewise but epyon relies more on how fast one can spam for max damage whereas bael is just one input and wait for the next chance to repeat and overall bael in a match is much scarier than epyon if you don’t know how to deal with him breathing down your neck
Is Kara no Kyokai a safe track for copyright now? I know the Melty Blood community still has Shiki's stage on tournament permaban just to avoid VODs having that song in the background.
If possible, may I ask for a look at some of the non-bipedal suits in the game like LaGOWE and Hildolfr? Anything that doesn't(by default) stand on two legs. Zeong counts since "Legs are for chumps." -Char, probably.
I'd say it's probably because Bael provides some "badass" and strong melee options that's very simple to use, I mean most of the people who had no experience with this game could probably perform well with Bael. I guess this is why most new player ended up rush-b a lot with him. To be fair, I personally think playing Epyon feels easier and more mind focused. Having no range option really kept my mind clear on what I need to do now, it's also a way of me to practice use both step and guard, and practice playing as a melee vanguard. As a person who prefer playing as ranged rearguard, Epyon and Lupus really makes me so comfortable when playing front. Anyway, I guess people choose Bael over Epyon is because how they can enjoy the feeling of victory and dominance, without really paying effort to learn the suit.
For Epyon, I feel like aggressive the the game here. But also need to space yourself so you're not stuck in a 2v1(which you will often do given its brutal melee power). It's like playing as Ike: You need to space yourself or you'll get run over. But also provide them with huge pressure if your enemy has no idea on dealing with your approaches.
Wait a second, how do you perform ababababab normally? With controller I mean. To do it as fast as those arcade pad user, it requires me to put my left thump on square and my right thump on triangle, and then spam them like when I play taiko. Other wise I'll have to do it slowly with only my right thump, which is VERY SLOW.
Ahh the Epyon. I've always had a love-hate relationship with this thing since Next Plus. On one hand, his melee game has always been unrivaled. He's scary once he gets close and there is no melee in the game that can counter a skilled Epyon player in a melee fight. On the other hand though, Epyon's lack of any ranged options (Not even vulcans) makes him the hardest to use out of the entire roster. You *NEED* to know your shit when you use this thing, otherwise you'll just be a weight to your teammate. I've noticed that Epyon players are either the best players in existence, or utter trash. There is no in-between.
Hey, minato! I just bought maxi boost on, and I'm trying to figure out how to schmoove and do good and all that stuff. Any beginner guides for someone like me? I like the blue destiny and the ez8
Compared to GVS I definitely don't feel like the Epyon is as "scary" to fight against. It's probably because a lot of suits have crazy stuff and I play a lot of melee suits so I always have an answer for Epyon. Good showing though minato. Still want to try it one day
Thing is, unlike GVS, there's no striker to nope you out of the combo for most suit and it's harder to run away from mr.epson once he down you once. I guess there's a up/down for this version but I think it's perfectly fit for this game.
“He’s just boosting around... Menacingly!” the Mobile Suit
Quanta, Master, Bael: We’re the highest cost, coolest, most popular melee suits ever.
Epyon: Move over trash, Here’s how a real man suit fights.
The true "MUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDA!" Suit (since it's a pure CQC suit)
Other melee suit: but we have range options
Epyon: the fact that you have that at all only bolsters your inferiority to me.
@@sheridoncary2602 I'm pretty sure once Epyon got in his melee range in a 1v1, it's pretty much gg, no?
@@stygiandragon3865 lol yeah pretty much the moment I see that thing pop on the versus board my blood pressure goes through the roof 🤣
@@sheridoncary2602 You need to avoid a 1v1 + count on your teammate to save you if you got stuck in a combo. And you need to make sure you kept a good distance.
You always bring the best, most pertinent information in a clear and concise way. Thank you for the work you do.
Me every time I'm up against Epyon and getting combo: "You see this controller in my hand? welp, im just gonna put this down and walk away have fun!"
Finally, epyon moveset compendium i can read
Proper epyon moveset is temporary but ab mash is eternal
So part of the Epyon strategy is to be aware that your sheer presence puts the fear of DIO into people
You can tell that person knows what's up if they're running away from Epyon. This is why I think it's harder to abuse Epyon against a yolo type player or masher as they don't fear you.
@@MinatoVersus did epyon's Zero System change in EXVS2?
@@MinatoVersus did epyon's Zero System change in EXVS2?
It's now a reloadable CSb
@@MinatoVersus What does it do, anyway?
btw, I love your choice of soundtracks. Somehow it fits perfectly, reminds me of that badass FGO x Kara no Kyoukai collaboration PV.
Thanks again, Minato. Knowing that sub has shooting guard, and knowing how 2B has a great range for combo start up REALLY encouraged me to fight braver and better with Epyon.
Epyon is extremely scary to fight against once it managed to down you and force a wake up game (especially if you have a slow boi machine like Extreme Eclipse, or god forbid Raphael), but overall I find it not as nerve wrecking as Bael who at least has shooting and movement options to deal with melee counters and beam/stun things, both of which are painful for Epyon to counter especially if the enemy knows what they can do
I think Epyon makes up for lack of range options with it's map presence since when he DOES touch you, you're losing 200+ HP from his insane melee damage. Player knows this, so they will stay away from Epyon. He's "A" tier for a reason. It really test player how to handle its output. And nothing's more satisfying to think they are safe behind their Super Armor only to be "MUDAMUDAMUDA" out of their SA with pure melee.
@@stygiandragon3865 Compared to Bael Epyon excels at striking insanely quickly with a long range of attack (thanks to whip), while Bael is like a juggernaut that forcefully presses forward
@@周生生-f1f And it fits the characters that pilot them. Zech is a skilled and experienced soldier that has a weird interest in the way of honor knights. So he knows how to dish out fast and powerful blows in a skillful manner and closes gaps. While McGillis, skillful, yes. But is obsessed in strength to forcefully charge through, hence the SA in one of his move. "You dare to defy me, who has Bael?" after all.
@@stygiandragon3865 See what you did there, nice
The og jing of melee. All it needs is the flip attack from gundam versus and its set. I do love Epyon.. Its like playing a real fighting game when doing inputs
Man these clips are super insightful and handy for learning a new suit in this game ^^
that bgm made me want to rewatch kara no kyoukai again lol
Recognised that Kara no Kyoukai track right away. Good choice!
Woke up to this video and half awake clicked on it to watch, the moment the Kara No Kyokai music started playing I was wide awake.
The thing that i love about epyon os that his abab combo can dealy the super armor moves until they get downed,like pressures,fazz gerobis or bael sub
That's *menacing*
Wait, that combo can eat through the super armor? Or you just attack so rapidly that their super armor just didn't last that long?
@@stygiandragon3865 i'll explain this to you:
When you get hit during a super armor (our example will be the fazz gerobi) it get delayed for a bit.
Epyon can do so much hit in few seconds and can delay a lot a super armor move and because the SA attack doesn't start,you can down an enemy that is doing that attack.
But you must be rapid with the ababab combo and never slow down it,or you'll get raped from the SA attack.
@@Samuel-jn2oc So "MUDAMUDAMUDAMUDA" them so much that their super armor just give up? XD That's awesome! Also how is guard not safe against Epyon?
@@stygiandragon3865 guard is not totally safe because of the whip if you're guarding and epyon simply go to your flanks or back and throw the whip to you...well,sayonara.
This most of the time during the wakeup where epyon can be everywhere (above you,right,left...) And a guard is not guranteed to parry to the right side where the whip is cominh
@@Samuel-jn2oc So Epyon in a nutshell: Do not 1v1 him, period?
Dude, the melee are so satisfying to watch!
That Kara no kyoukai OST! Nice :)
7:09 poor alexxxxxxxx got killed by a whip
niceeeeeee minato
dont mind alex
Remember, it’s limit is how hard you can ball
i always love the piano music at the end
Ah yes, the other BEAST of a suit from Wing. Almost literally. There's a reason why Zech/Milliardo & Heero are 2 of the most badass pilots ever, considering they mastered both this thing & its brother, The Zero. They really don't make Final Boss Gundams like they used to.
Anyways, the Epyon is EXVS' challenge to people to lab like fucking crazy & git gud. No range weapons, just studying the art of the blade. And also ABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABABAB-
Side note: Kara No Kyoukai soundtrack? Ah, I see you are a man of culture as well.
Which Kara No Kyoukai ost/bgm in this video?
@@fakhriqant8359 It's the main theme for whenever Shiki kicks ass, tho slightly arranged I think.
Edit: I think the song's official name is Thanatos. Kinda apt, don't you think?
@@justinl8791 Shiki's theme?
@@fakhriqant8359 Yeah
Zechs: "Fine Trieze I'll take this Epyon"
Mean while little sister's has been taking under her will to romerfeler
So what can Epyon do that Bael can't? I feel like Bael has all epyons strengths and but also ranged attacks, super armor, and better movement. I love Epyon, but he feels outclassed in this one.
It's mainly the whip and wakeup game. The shooting guard on whip making it hard to shoot back. Going up? dash-stun. Melee back? Got whip. Guard? Overheat whip etc. I think you get the idea. I feel like you have more options when it's come to running away from Bael.
Sure some of the super armor can go through it but Epyon also can step and mash it through the armor as well. I think they're about equal but Bael is way more accessible.
@@MinatoVersus All great points, maybe I wasn't giving him enough credit, I'll try to put all that into practice. Thanks for the response!
@@mitchmediak I think the best comparison is how skilled the pilot is. I’ve seen baels fold entire teams near single handedly and epyon likewise but epyon relies more on how fast one can spam for max damage whereas bael is just one input and wait for the next chance to repeat and overall bael in a match is much scarier than epyon if you don’t know how to deal with him breathing down your neck
@@Loaf_gaming_ch I'm never mad when an Epyon player beats me, I'm always like...well earned. Not so much with Bael lol
IKE EPIEN
Bael is for Babies
Epyon is for Experts
Even in anime, ms and pilot: Epyon >>> Bael
Jk. Peace everyone. ✌️
Is Kara no Kyokai a safe track for copyright now? I know the Melty Blood community still has Shiki's stage on tournament permaban just to avoid VODs having that song in the background.
probably not ... maybe i'll regret this
I see we got our man Napper in.
As with a good IJ, at first you get rushed...and then the other team starts staying the hell away from you.
If possible, may I ask for a look at some of the non-bipedal suits in the game like LaGOWE and Hildolfr? Anything that doesn't(by default) stand on two legs. Zeong counts since "Legs are for chumps." -Char, probably.
I have no idea how to use any of those
@@MinatoVersus Ah. Worth a try. You do great work though, keep it up.
Funny how you release this when I'm in the middle of building a MG Epyon
I'd say it's probably because Bael provides some "badass" and strong melee options that's very simple to use, I mean most of the people who had no experience with this game could probably perform well with Bael. I guess this is why most new player ended up rush-b a lot with him.
To be fair, I personally think playing Epyon feels easier and more mind focused. Having no range option really kept my mind clear on what I need to do now, it's also a way of me to practice use both step and guard, and practice playing as a melee vanguard. As a person who prefer playing as ranged rearguard, Epyon and Lupus really makes me so comfortable when playing front.
Anyway, I guess people choose Bael over Epyon is because how they can enjoy the feeling of victory and dominance, without really paying effort to learn the suit.
For Epyon, I feel like aggressive the the game here. But also need to space yourself so you're not stuck in a 2v1(which you will often do given its brutal melee power). It's like playing as Ike: You need to space yourself or you'll get run over. But also provide them with huge pressure if your enemy has no idea on dealing with your approaches.
I remember using epyon in next plus and just spam the melee and somehow did half health of damage
Wait a second, how do you perform ababababab normally? With controller I mean.
To do it as fast as those arcade pad user, it requires me to put my left thump on square and my right thump on triangle, and then spam them like when I play taiko. Other wise I'll have to do it slowly with only my right thump, which is VERY SLOW.
You have to slide your thumb across the buttons very quickly instead of pressing them.
I just recently got this game and having a lot of fun. Anyone want to help me get better by fighting with me or against me ?
I've been struggling with the loop combo precisely the input speed(do i do it fast or slow?) any tips?
not sure how other ppl do it.
in my case, I'm using the default ps4 pad so I just move around square and triangle really fast. that's about it.
空之境界音樂好聽！
what is the button to defend the blows? block enemy attacks✅☑️
What does the zero system do? Shooting guard?
It cuts bullets' tracking, like if you were in green range
(i think)
Sorry if this sounds obvious, but I'm curious. Is there any utility for not being in Max Output? What about the MA form?
You consume less boost but with way weaker performance.
You use MA as a movement and to move around.
I always confuse cause idk how to slash barage
could somebody guide me to the genre of music that plays in the beginning of these videos? I really like this stuff but dunno what its called.
is there even any disadvantage for activating the melee powerup?
You can see the boost consumption going up like 50000%. You will get used to it tho.
If this was in 1234 format it would be easier smh I just wanna know how to do the downward slash
YES!!!!!!!
Ahh the Epyon. I've always had a love-hate relationship with this thing since Next Plus. On one hand, his melee game has always been unrivaled. He's scary once he gets close and there is no melee in the game that can counter a skilled Epyon player in a melee fight. On the other hand though, Epyon's lack of any ranged options (Not even vulcans) makes him the hardest to use out of the entire roster. You *NEED* to know your shit when you use this thing, otherwise you'll just be a weight to your teammate.
I've noticed that Epyon players are either the best players in existence, or utter trash. There is no in-between.
Garden of sinners music? Sweet
can u do blitz gundam!
Lol, I'm on TV
There no ranged attack and yes this is what true melee suit looks like of course who need ranged when you can have 1 dodge move.
Not treize?
Machigaeta i thought its exam
Hey, minato! I just bought maxi boost on, and I'm trying to figure out how to schmoove and do good and all that stuff. Any beginner guides for someone like me? I like the blue destiny and the ez8
There's a beginner guide and burst guide that you might want to check them out. You can find them via playlist in my channel.
@@MinatoVersus Thank you! Slick gameplay btw, gundam epyon's a really cool suit!
Compared to GVS I definitely don't feel like the Epyon is as "scary" to fight against. It's probably because a lot of suits have crazy stuff and I play a lot of melee suits so I always have an answer for Epyon. Good showing though minato. Still want to try it one day
Thing is, unlike GVS, there's no striker to nope you out of the combo for most suit and it's harder to run away from mr.epson once he down you once. I guess there's a up/down for this version but I think it's perfectly fit for this game.
Steamroller...I see that Jojo reference mate *click*
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