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My dad being a John Mac himself had a small story that I have never heard since when I asked him about Clain survivors. Dad said that the ones who escaped called themselves Mc Donald. That was their way of escaping the persecution. Bruce, do you have a tail like that? HONK from Canada
Thank you for this. Interesting. I'm a Macdonald (from New Zealand) and can trace our family back to the valleys inland from Loch Eil, 30km for a crow to Glencoe. My great great Grandfather left for NZ in the 1860s.
You're legend. I'm in Australia and, apparently, 69% Scottish. Loving your take on things there. Loving learning about my heritage. Thanks, buddy. Bruce Malcolm Devereaux
I'm also damn proud of my heritage. My genes are tied to men and women who are proud and strong and fiercely independent, but also strongly family orientated. That's me. That's what I instil in my kids (7). I am Scottish and proud, living in Australia. Bruce Devereaux
I could tell from your demeanour at the start that you were about to share a moving story and you did so with your usual thoughtful calm. As always, thank you for sharing 🌞
The Clachaig is a wonderful place. I’ve drunk with old friends, made new friends, and partied with Chilean refugees who’d escaped their own murderous government. I’ve even had a beer with a Campbell.
In August 1966, I got to belatedly raise the alarm in Glen Coe youth hostel that someone might be missing. He was found dead 2 days later. The hostels warden's partner went out of her way to console me that the poor lad ( 18 year old...same as I was ) had died from his fall and not from exposure, which would have been partly my fault. I never got to say thank you to that lady. Any way to do so now?
Hi Bruce. My nephew is a Major Duncanson serving in the Australian army. When he was younger we took him to Glen Coe where he found out about the orders passed on by one of his ancestors in his now current rank. We have all been dispersed.
It's a shame that Clan Henderson never get a mention in this tragedy. They also suffered at the hands of King Billy that same day. They where also murdered at the same time. 😢
Bruce, you should do a video on the Mac Donald / Campbell feud, one of the longest in highland history I believe, I got a brief glimpse when I read a book on Alister maccolla but would love to know the origins of it.
A haunting and enthralling story, sad yet it captures the imagination, I stood in the glen with my family knowing the story I turned and looked at my daughter she stood with a tear running down her cheek, my daughter has a learning disability, but she said she could feel the pain uaireannan tha an àm a dh'fhalbh nas fhaisge na tha fios againn 💔
In the US in Geargia there is a County called Glynn and it has a town called Glenco and one called Stirling. It is a coastal place and now I know how it got its name. Thank you.
Bruce, thank you for a story that is often wrongy told. When I was a child living in Corstorphine we had a dentist called Campbell, my refused to see him, that was in the late 1950s early 1960s some eople have long memories.
I hope you've matured enough since then to realise that many people with the name Campbell and McDonald or MacDonald in the modern era have absolutely nothing to do with the events from hundreds of years ago., the vast majority won't even have any ancestral links to the Campbells from the massacre.
Bruce, good story telling yet again. Might you do an episode on the history between the MacDonalds of Glen Coe before the massacre? It wasn't an isolated event by my understanding. MacDonalds had been involved in the capture of Inveraray Castle when Montrose was doing his stuff in the 1640s. Campbells (of Glenorchy) were involved in what is said to be the last clan battle in Scotland in 1680
@ppavery I think it was Battle of Altimarlach, which took place on July 13, 1680, near Wick. Between Campbells and Sinclairs over land in Caithness. The Sinclairs got it back through legal action which is a bit ironic.
I am enjoying your videos Bruce I have a question for you What does the little saying you say at the end of each video mean? Also hope i can make it to the Wellington New Zealand show as it is where i am from
I don't speak Gaelic, only know a few words, but he definitely says the sentence that is also found on a mug for sale at his shop "tha mi an dochas gum bi latha math leibh". Google says this means "I hope you have a good day". The rest of what he says I don't know for sure, but it seems to end on "an-drasda" (the final a being silent) which means "soon", so my guess would be that he is saying: "hope you have a nice day, and see you soon".
McDonald's was founded by people named McDonald whose parents had emigrated from Ireland. Could of course be that they were descendants of the MacDonalds of Glencoe who at some point had gone to Ireland. But this is not very likely.
And yet these same ppl, who suffered so at the hands of British government, fought as loyalists FOR the very same family of German Georgies after they had been "emigrated" to America B4 the revolution. Not as highland regiments that were sent to fight, but, they put down their plows to fight their neighbors. Got themselves shot to pieces in north Carolina. You'd think they'd have been itching for a chance to ventilate a few red coats.
It is. Many Campbells from modern times have nothing to do with the Campbells of the Glencoe massacre. Due to the name being passed on or simply adopted by many in the hundreds of years since.
Very common in Scotland, more Campbells than MacDonalds. I have Argyll Sinclairs from Inveraray and MacDonalds from North Uist in my paternal grandparents.
My Donaldson family came out on a boat from Scotland uk to New Zealand Wellington nz in 1915 working class people move up up to town call Taihape Scottish family my granddad born as kiwi Scot both Scottish parents
Glencoe, a place of beauty and cruelty, be it from nature, or human. In all story telling, there are 2 sides often not told together. One side idolises (Often in British history, the losers) and the other, try’s to forget, or if not forget, moves on to leave the events in History, as they seek better futures. Views, of ‘live by the sword, die by the sword’, tells a story of its own. Cattle thieves becoming the hunted, a local view that was overlaid by political and religious forces from elsewhere, set the murderous actions that Glencoe is now infamous for, sadly. Even the modern visitors centre does not do justice to the events, as the previous visitors centre from the 1980’s (now a parking area for a walk up onto signal rock) did at least attempt to do far better. Again, modern views on education caused this, with emphasis on stories of glacial land formations, rather than stories of Human History, of Clans, Hospitality, Treachery, Murder, Isolation, Reprieve, Forgiveness and Dispersal. Though this previous sentence verbiage is found in all Scottish history, from old, recent, present and sadly will continue in the future (Just look at the political ruling party in Scotland, the SNP to evidence this!). Yet Scotland and Glencoe especially, holds a feeling, a mystery, a chill like no other within Scotland. ‘Nuair a thig air duine thig air uile. Is samhach an obair dol a dholaidh’.
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My dad being a John Mac himself had a small story that I have never heard since when I asked him about Clain survivors.
Dad said that the ones who escaped called themselves Mc Donald. That was their way of escaping the persecution.
Bruce, do you have a tail like that?
HONK from Canada
Great video Bruce!.... from a MacDonald of Glencoe living in Sydney 🇦🇺
Thank you Bruce.
Good morning Bruce 🌏🕊
tfs ~ love to hear you tell a tale of history. Your voice is lovely.
🌷👋
Thank you for this. Interesting.
I'm a Macdonald (from New Zealand) and can trace our family back to the valleys inland from Loch Eil, 30km for a crow to Glencoe. My great great Grandfather left for NZ in the 1860s.
You're legend. I'm in Australia and, apparently, 69% Scottish. Loving your take on things there. Loving learning about my heritage. Thanks, buddy. Bruce Malcolm Devereaux
I'm also damn proud of my heritage. My genes are tied to men and women who are proud and strong and fiercely independent, but also strongly family orientated. That's me. That's what I instil in my kids (7). I am Scottish and proud, living in Australia. Bruce Devereaux
100% Scottish/Irish here and I agree. Always great videos from Bruce.
A'reyt Bruce. Such a sad story for such a beautiful location.
A part of the story almost never heard - thanks for telling it.
I could tell from your demeanour at the start that you were about to share a moving story and you did so with your usual thoughtful calm. As always, thank you for sharing 🌞
The Clachaig is a wonderful place. I’ve drunk with old friends, made new friends, and partied with Chilean refugees who’d escaped their own murderous government. I’ve even had a beer with a Campbell.
I went to school with a Campbell and a MacDonald. To this day, some of the MacDonald's in America don't even eat Campbell's soup.
The good news is the Campbells don't have to eat McDonalds
🇦🇺 another great video, hopefully many more to come 🤗
Informative and moving. Thank you.
You always give such great history lessons.
In August 1966, I got to belatedly raise the alarm in Glen Coe youth hostel that someone might be missing. He was found dead 2 days later. The hostels warden's partner went out of her way to console me that the poor lad ( 18 year old...same as I was ) had died from his fall and not from exposure, which would have been partly my fault. I never got to say thank you to that lady. Any way to do so now?
Hi Bruce. My nephew is a Major Duncanson serving in the Australian army. When he was younger we took him to Glen Coe where he found out about the orders passed on by one of his ancestors in his now current rank. We have all been dispersed.
Yes we are interested! Your videos never disappoint. Thank you for your content.
It's a shame that Clan Henderson never get a mention in this tragedy. They also suffered at the hands of King Billy that same day. They where also murdered at the same time. 😢
Good morning from the United States of America 🇺🇸
Dropped as soon as I poured a wee heavy... great video to sip an ale to.
That’s 38 shattered families 😢
Tapadh leat Bruce. You're damned good at this Scottish History & Stories...Slainte Mhath
Bruce, you should do a video on the Mac Donald / Campbell feud, one of the longest in highland history I believe, I got a brief glimpse when I read a book on Alister maccolla but would love to know the origins of it.
They fled tp the hills. Starved
Froze.
A haunting and enthralling story, sad yet it captures the imagination, I stood in the glen with my family knowing the story I turned and looked at my daughter she stood with a tear running down her cheek, my daughter has a learning disability, but she said she could feel the pain uaireannan tha an àm a dh'fhalbh nas fhaisge na tha fios againn 💔
Dam my family's sad history
Me grandad is from Glencoe and I'm living in Christchurch, I'd heard that there was a new Laird although disappointed to find out he's a banker.
What no whisky chaser
...and alcohol free beer
@@ScotlandHistoryTours You mean coloured water...
He'd have been driving. It's best not to drink when you will be driving.
In the US in Geargia there is a County called Glynn and it has a town called Glenco and one called Stirling. It is a coastal place and now I know how it got its name. Thank you.
Good morning.
Morning
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Is the visitor centre in the Glen still run by a Mr Campbell?
Opened a popular eatery in partnership with a clown. The rest is just conjecture.
Hope you’re getting a venue in Perth better than the last one.
Bruce, thank you for a story that is often wrongy told. When I was a child living in Corstorphine we had a dentist called Campbell, my refused to see him, that was in the late 1950s early 1960s some eople have long memories.
I hope you've matured enough since then to realise that many people with the name Campbell and McDonald or MacDonald in the modern era have absolutely nothing to do with the events from hundreds of years ago., the vast majority won't even have any ancestral links to the Campbells from the massacre.
Bruce, good story telling yet again.
Might you do an episode on the history between the MacDonalds of Glen Coe before the massacre? It wasn't an isolated event by my understanding. MacDonalds had been involved in the capture of Inveraray Castle when Montrose was doing his stuff in the 1640s.
Campbells (of Glenorchy) were involved in what is said to be the last clan battle in Scotland in 1680
Wasn't that inverlochy?
@ppavery I think it was Battle of Altimarlach, which took place on July 13, 1680, near Wick. Between Campbells and Sinclairs over land in Caithness. The Sinclairs got it back through legal action which is a bit ironic.
Ah I was thinking the battle of inverlochy 1645, Montrose and Alistair maccolla
I am enjoying your videos Bruce
I have a question for you
What does the little saying you say at the end of each video mean?
Also hope i can make it to the Wellington New Zealand show as it is where i am from
It means: "I hope you have a lovely day. Bye for now". From the Gaelic, to English.
I don't speak Gaelic, only know a few words, but he definitely says the sentence that is also found on a mug for sale at his shop "tha mi an dochas gum bi latha math leibh". Google says this means "I hope you have a good day".
The rest of what he says I don't know for sure, but it seems to end on "an-drasda" (the final a being silent) which means "soon",
so my guess would be that he is saying: "hope you have a nice day, and see you soon".
What happened to the McDonald's .... started making hamburgers and french fries👋🏻
McDonald's was founded by people named McDonald whose parents had emigrated from Ireland. Could of course be that they were descendants of the MacDonalds of Glencoe who at some point had gone to Ireland. But this is not very likely.
@@arthur_p_dent Thanks for your reply .... I was just making a rib
There's a word that I tell. Repeatedly.wheem I I hear this history. It begins with F.
And yet these same ppl, who suffered so at the hands of British government, fought as loyalists FOR the very same family of German Georgies after they had been "emigrated" to America B4 the revolution. Not as highland regiments that were sent to fight, but, they put down their plows to fight their neighbors. Got themselves shot to pieces in north Carolina.
You'd think they'd have been itching for a chance to ventilate a few red coats.
Personally I think that land should be given back to them in the present day to right an obvious wrong 🔥
My grandmas last name was Campbell, is that a common last name?
It is. Many Campbells from modern times have nothing to do with the Campbells of the Glencoe massacre. Due to the name being passed on or simply adopted by many in the hundreds of years since.
Very common in Scotland, more Campbells than MacDonalds.
I have Argyll Sinclairs from Inveraray and MacDonalds from North Uist in my paternal grandparents.
@@bmused55 There weren't many Campbells at Glencoe out of all the troops. It was a governemnt army unit carrying out the orders of the King.
My Donaldson family came out on a boat from Scotland uk to New Zealand Wellington nz in 1915 working class people move up up to town call Taihape Scottish family my granddad born as kiwi Scot both Scottish parents
Glencoe, a place of beauty and cruelty, be it from nature, or human. In all story telling, there are 2 sides often not told together. One side idolises (Often in British history, the losers) and the other, try’s to forget, or if not forget, moves on to leave the events in History, as they seek better futures. Views, of ‘live by the sword, die by the sword’, tells a story of its own. Cattle thieves becoming the hunted, a local view that was overlaid by political and religious forces from elsewhere, set the murderous actions that Glencoe is now infamous for, sadly. Even the modern visitors centre does not do justice to the events, as the previous visitors centre from the 1980’s (now a parking area for a walk up onto signal rock) did at least attempt to do far better. Again, modern views on education caused this, with emphasis on stories of glacial land formations, rather than stories of Human History, of Clans, Hospitality, Treachery, Murder, Isolation, Reprieve, Forgiveness and Dispersal. Though this previous sentence verbiage is found in all Scottish history, from old, recent, present and sadly will continue in the future (Just look at the political ruling party in Scotland, the SNP to evidence this!). Yet Scotland and Glencoe especially, holds a feeling, a mystery, a chill like no other within Scotland. ‘Nuair a thig air duine thig air uile. Is samhach an obair dol a dholaidh’.
I cant take this seriously by someone who looks like you 🤣