KinnPorsche Reaction E2 | Back with Thai BL and bodyguards!
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Rule 1 in Thai BL: Everyone’s gay until proven otherwise 🤣🤣
the "we got another gay in the house" directed at Vegas got me good lmaooo
The way they both reacted to his voice is hilarious 🤣
that's a spoiler!!! please don't leave spoilers! they deliberate don't show who that voice belongs to.
@@Cookie_moonlove fuck i didn't even realize, and they've already seen it, I'm so sorry
The only problem with beginning your BL journey with KP is that KP had a bigger budget and higher production values than any other series. But don't let that dissuade you from continuing your journey. Many low-to-mid-budget series are quite extraordinary.
that's true. I feel the low budget (often in the audio quality) has a special charm sometimes that makes thai BL unique in a way. idk how to describe it.
@@HangryKitsune the audio as well as the subtitles.. I swear, my english got worse after watching some shows.. the subs were sooo bad that I dropped some shows..
@@Rayna_90 😂
@@Rayna_90 I guess I dodged those hard cases. War of Y was just unwatchable with all the not translated text messages.... but sometimes we have nice people in the fandom who translate errors or missing parts :)
The only thing that annoyed me with the KP subs on iQiyi is that they constantly write swear words into something more 'family friendly' (it's a meme by now for us) ... even the english swears we can clearly hear😂(also most inter fans already learned thai swear words from other dramas)! That series is already 18+ we are adult enough for those words I promise. lol
The thing is KP is not even my top 5 of the best bl series 😂😂
in thai bl's basically everyone is queer, I didn't realize how new that would be to people that are just beginning to watch 😭😭😭
I know, it was so strange going from western queer shows where only the main two are queer, to BL's where EVERYONE is
not really, but it is more often that the main characters are gay or bisexual, so it appears more. These shows don't try to throw a widerange of characters at us who are supposed to represent all sorts of demographics. So the gay/bisexuals have more of a presence here and they feel more in numbers. To take KinnPorsche, we have 9 main and supporting casts who are either gay or bisexual, that is not much, even having 2 out of 3 brothers being gay is not so unusual either, but they are the focus, so they feel more in numbers than they actually are.
I usually describe it as: the mains are gay and their brothers and their besties and their uncles and their teachers. 😂😂😂
OMG YES
@@ooreciwangwang y'all should read western MM books too. In most of them everyone is gay too😭. In the sports series, most hockey players are for some reason on the queer spectrum.
"We're here for the LGBTQ+ representation not the moral representation" HAHHAHAHSJ Literally ME when I watched KinnPorsche for the first time
Oh i can not wait for them to meet Tanakun's character! 💀
Oh god yes 😂
Screaming 'Sebastian!!'
About Thai BLs - If you're looking for quality storytelling and good development of a gay relationship:
"I Told Sunset About You"
If you want something MESSY and entertaining:
"Only Friends"
Never watched Sunset I don’t know why and I love PPKrit energy, only Freinds is messy but Check out is worse, everybody in that series is red flag 🚩
Only friends was so boring tho.
IMO I told sunset about you and I promised you the moon falls more into queer story telling than BL... PP and Bilikin did an amazing job
Just add BL's that got the "Best Lgbtq programme in Asia" award:
1. A Tale of a thousand stars
2. Bad Buddy
3. Moonlight Chicken
-Miracle of Teddy Bear and To, Sir with love is good too if you like lakorn style drama
@@muciSADit wasn't to lots of people 🤷♀️
One thing you should keep in mind and honestly what draws me and a lot of other queer people to bl/gl is that it's mostly there to entertain. I feel like especially with western queer media we all have gotten so fixed on the idea that every single queer character needs to represent actual real life queer folks. Thai bl/gl is a little different. Characters just happen to be queer. That doesn't mean they have to act a certain way. They're messy, often morally grey, a little over the top and so so fun to watch. Are Thai bl/gl shows perfect representation -whatever TF that even means lol - no probably not but they've given our community what we deserve. Entertaining media and lots of queer love stories we can laugh and cry and swoon over.
Kinnporsche is still one of my faves and I really hope y'all can just enjoy it for what it is😊
exactly! or in the new series "we are" all of them are gay/bi guys and no one is questioning them!
Well, it depends on the show as to whether characters come out or not etc. E.g. My Stand-In has a homophobic family. I do agree that the entertainment factor is what makes these bls (which is basically just gay romance) from Taiwan and Thailand so popular., because that is what so many want. Plus, the constant push for perfect representation is a dead end if you ask me. No show can do that. Plus, I have seen some pretty questionable examples of said representation,
@@inotaishu1 oh of course! There are a few shows that deal with issues such as homophobia, coming out and accepting who you are but it's definitely not as often as in western media and often times if the characters have issues in life it's not necessarily tied to their sexuality. And I agree. I think often the representation factor kinda kills creative freedom and fun/exciting story telling. I got so tired of western queer "rep" that I was almost dreading new releases. I hated that I couldn't enjoy media as a queer person so Thai BLS/gls opened this whole world up to me. Almost like a rainbow candy store I can go in and just pick whatever I'm craving you know? Idk if that even makes sense lol
@@Kimiblues "I got so tired of western queer "rep" that I was almost dreading new releases. "
Trust me, I know that feeling. And especially when the main characters are "queer", it is as if so many writers and showmakers have a very very tied to certain types of stories and even character traits. To give an example: I know of one gay comic book writer, who, whenever he writes gay characters, they are incredible stereotypes, but when he writes straight characters, they are actually three-dimensional people. Possibly because he thinks he has to write in a certain way or maybe his own head is full of stereotypes.
@@inotaishu1 yes exactly! I mean surely Thai shows aren't free of stereotypes but at least characters get to be more than just queer and I appreciate that.
One thing with Thai shows specifically, is that there is often a mix of very dark and serious moments and very comedic moments
Product placement in Thai bls often makes me die laughing bc of how blatant it is and just the way it gets placed in the story. But product placement cracks me up in general like Toyota in teen wolf and myfi in the vampire diaries
Can't wait till they get to the best bread product placement one can ever ask for in KP 😏
Kinn Porsche's that bread is iconic 😂
Basically, BL drama, especially Thai BL, is "spot the straight character" 😂 since everyone is 🏳️🌈
These past few years, we have had a growing number of GLs! And even sometimes Gays, Lesbians and BIs in ONE drama! (example: I feel you linger in the air series)
P.S. You gonna LOVE ep3 :)
And in KP especially it's also "spot a woman" game, right? i mean, there are some, but the characters dont even have names, because they are so minor....
@eh8035 oh sh!t!!! I forgot!
Maybe because in recent Thai dramas, I see more and more women, I forgot how rare they were in those early years!! XD, especially in KP. I only remember the badass mafia secretary, Porsche's ##### (as not spoil but you know WHO), the bar owner and..... those girls that Porsche banged/flirted? Edit: oh and the Assassin.
Honestly, these past months, as we have more GLs and even more GLs in BL drama, we might go with:
"Find the straight character who ISN'T a parent and/or so minor in role" XD
But give it a couple of years and even the parents come out as lgbt+!! XD
You should watch Deep Night tons and tons of representation
Ps, no episode 11 curse
@pandaroo7053 Thanks, I will. :)
Oh no! Not the episode 11 curse! XD it's a genre by itself xlXD
@@SurStormy-cj6pu it truly is 😭
KinnPorsche gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "Gay Mafia"
they are literally the definition of "be gay, do crime" lmao💀
The actor that plays Tanakun, Tong or P'Tong since he is older than me (In Thailand you put the P in front of the name when someone is older than you) is actually queer in real life and came out at one of the events with the cast. It was a really beautiful moment :) A few years back he also adopted a son which he sometimes shares on his Social Media. Mostly for important events or steps in his life. I loved his character in KP and I know he enjoyed it so much. He also became a BL novel writer which means I hope that one day he gets to produce one of his own stories into a Series or Movie :)
Enjoy the rest of your KP journey, it's definitely worth it! I'll be tuning in for the rest of this.
The thing about BL is: Queerness just is. There is no default to cis heteronormativity, the default is Queer. And thats why its so refreshing. Queer people exist, and in most cases (about 95%) there is no real conflict because of their sexuality. Its all drama from other things.
I have never thought of that. but that's so true. Like with BL and GL the default truly is queer. When you put it like that it makes absolute sense why a lot of people relate and enjoy it, especially those in the community.
You think the inhaler is weird? Wait for the bread.
Not the bread😭😭😭
😭⚰️ "nom nom"
I can't. I legit went out and bought the bread from that lolsss Sold out in all the 7-11 for at least a month
I don't know if anyone else has said it, but I wanted to point out that the actor who plays Tankhun, Tong, is an openly gay actor and activist who has been fighting for queer rights in Thailand for years.
tankhun is hilarious. He's so gay, yet so innocent. Everyone is basically gay in this series, which is fun because all the different relationships have a different kind of feel to them.
Both of you do NOT FORGET “BAD BUDDY SERIES”
BL WHICH IS SO DEARLY LOVED INTERNATIONALLY.
Their OST (sung by one of the lead) I can’t even begin how famous it is.
In real life played by two best friends whose chemistry set the bar real high.
Also said to have the best onscreen bl kiss ever.
The director P aof is also the director of tale of thousand stars he even did a crossover in a special ep “our skyy 2”
Also it wud be a crime to start any other bl without starting with bad buddy. You have to start with it and then follow with the other series mentioned below by other fans.
Yessssss
The beauty of Thai BLs is that in this world, they dont question their sexuality. Its just kinda like a given that they are queer, and no one gives a shit. Like there are no women characters in this, except for maybe 1 or 2 very minor characters. Like all of them are gay, in different shades. All the family that is. And noone is gonna be questioning it. even other dramas that are more rooted in reality, they dont angst too much on the sexuality part, but more about the romance of it. take note though that most BLs are geared for women, so that place a big role on romance more vs the process of coming out. anyway, cant wait for episode 3.
there are more women and trans women in BL nowadays as side couples in f/f and f/m ships
@@HangryKitsune that honestly is a recent development. Even in this, trans women are still used as a comedic characters. But with new and more diverse stories of the ever expanding Thai BL, a lot of women, trans and queer identity and included and we love that!
Tankhun is everyone's favorite ❤❤❤❤😂😂
I like him when he is with Vegas 😂😂 they just make me laugh 😂😂
About it feeling like ownership, get used to it. Kinn, Tankhun, Macau, Vegas (and Kim, the younger brother) are all mafia heirs. They do not follow society's normal moral code, and the bodyguards are there to serve and die for them. They are essentially human shields. We will see they vary in the treatment of the bodyguards and the lines they cross, but these men are trained and sworn to take bullets for the members of the mafia. Kinn is the de facto heir of the major family (Tankhun is older, but he has PTSD so duty falls to Kinn). Vegas is the heir of the minor family, and he is below Kinn.
I am living to see Josh change his mind about the series... Believe me, you WILL get invested...
Kinnporshe was so popular at its premiere that it later had its Kinnporshe Word tour ! Bonus fact: the actor who plays tankhun is openly gay and adopted a child and is raising him as a single parent. ❤
In BL World, everyone is queer until proven otherwise, If a character dates women, they usually are bi or pan or whatever, BL have it's own unique tropes, it's really fun, and yeah, KinnPorsche can be very campy at times, (I like it)
one of my favorite bl's is "old fashioned cupcake", but it's very rarely mentioned. there are no fights and intrigues, sudden plot twists, just a show with which you can spend your evening pleasantly and warm your heart🫂
it's the best Japanese bl show for me
@@AliceGreen-ke7sx
i'm glad 🤭
I think you'll enjoy Our Dining Table and What did you eat yesterday (if you haven't seen them already).
@@muciSAD
i know about this, I have a huge list of things to watch hahaha, although i'm taking a break now because some of them break my heart. thanks for the recommendation. i need another life just to watch all the movies/series/anime...
Oh, these early episodes are so light-hearted and funny. 😊 I love re-watching this (for the 30th+ time).
Since people are throwing BL / GL / QL recommendations around, here are mine I rec from Thailand:
- The Sign the series (it's free on yt. it has thai mythology, criminal investigation and some genderqueerness, genderfluidity going on for one of the mains, also has a transwoman played by a transwoman in a side couple)
- Manner of Death (mafia, crime investigation where a doc teams up with the main suspect to solve a murder case, because the police is garbage in this one)
- Not Me the series (also on yt, is about a twin impersonating his brother who got beaten in a coma, now he's joining his bros human rights activist biker gang as a mole to find the one who hurt his brother. is very LGBTq+ activism and thai politics themed but with romance in between of course. one iconic scene has a giant pride flag that is the original flag they use in Bangkok pride parade)
- Pit Babe the series (haha that one is a bit wild but good. it's the very first omegaverse (but only with alphas) TV show. But it's actually more about car racing with a bit of super powers and some illegal stuff happening they fight against but I can't say cause it's a spoiler )
- A Tale of Thousand Stars (on yt as well. no crime here... oh well a little bit but this one is definitely more on the wholesome side, starts a bit sad tho. rich kid travels to a rural village to become a teacher and fulfill his heart donors last wish but finds also love as well)
The police may be garbage in Manner of Death, but boy do they have some nice-fitting tight pants. Oops, sorry, I'm in full KP mode.
@@issey1456 haha yes we called Inspector M "Inspector Beefcake" 😏
It's quite a surprise to me some people were complaining about choosing KP, as regards thai BL industry, I think KP is one of the most popular and high budget thai BL series ever made. I personally think it's one of the best I've seen up to date.
I feel like it’s because BL already has a bad rep for being morally questionable and super explicit (I don’t see anything wrong with explicit content personally), so people say to start out with other things that won’t turn people off.
Please keep going with this.
KinnPorsche is morally grey, yes, but honestly so are SO many other BL series too. I would almost say most of them has some grey issues to, if you actually look at it, but so does straight series. KinnPorsche is just quite dark grey, since it's mafia/action themed, but this series also has some of the most romantic moments I have ever seen in a series that will make you melt 😊
Also, I mentioned in a comment on previous episode, BoC (production company) allows you to show 60% of a KP episode in these YT videos. Just blur the screen or edit out anything explicit (kissing is oki to show).
I, for one, find it hilarious that all the sons in this family are gay like truly the "your bloodline ends with us, old man" ahh generation
Edit: Also fun fact! Tong, the actor playing Tankhun, is queer himself, wrote a queer novel AND has an adoptive son and they are super cute (he also got into acting kinda by accident) and over the years became quite the person, he even had a speech at the parliament when the equal marriage bill passed earlier this month!!
The under the water meme is universal at this point
KinnPorsche as a first BL is INSANE🤣"Gay Mafia"🥰.
You are not prepared for what is coming 😂😂😂
Love that Tankhun is here now 🙌
He was my favourite character in the series and will be serving looks for the rest of the show 💁♀️
An amazing Korean BL that came out this year is 'Love for Love sake' . As to Thailand and sexualy. It is much more loose than the west. Everyone is a bit queer. And it is just the norm. As they have resisted colonialism. And the repression of sexuality.
ikr!! it's so hard so spot a straight guy in thailand lmao (i love that)
It is also very trans friendly.
Iam sorry love for love sake is not good at all especially if we consider the amount of toxity in that drama .
@@Nain06 huh what toxicity..
Thanks for that @@Nain06
I absolutely love that you diving head first into the BL universe! KinnPorche is one of my favorite series in Thai BL, yes there are some morally grey moments but I think the show does a good job a confronting them. One series I would love to see you react too is Love in the air, following two main couples. Welcome to the BL family ❤️
Thai BL is always a circle of gays with a single straight friend😂 and sometimes they don't always have that friend haha
Arm, Tankhun and Tay are the faves for me~.
(Arm being the gent in glasses with the guns, he proves to be an amazing friend to Kinn. He also is Tankhun's official bodyguard with Pol. Tay is Kinn's silver haired friend. We love Tay. Tay is a giant green flag. And Tankhun cause he's Tankhun. I also really love Chan, who is the older gentleman who is the leader of the bodyguards. His nickname in the fandom is Daddy Chan. Daddy Chan is perpetually exhausted someone please let him take a nap.)
The point is that in KP, being queer is just one more part of the caracter and the romance are building to be also one part ofthe show. The drama, crime, thing, everything is so well balanced, well acted, is one of the best bl ever!❤
I'm glad you guys are enjoying KP so far. If you continue to explore BL i would definitely recomend trying BLs from other countries. There is a distinct difference between them from storylines, how they are shot, etc. and if you took out the language you can still tell. This is a rough generalisation (and my personal opinion):
Thailand: Basically the King of BL with a huge range of genres, though sometimes can be more quantity over quality, but many real gems out there. Shows don't tend to have a focus on discovery of queer identity and characters just are. Lots of shows in high school and Uni setting but has dipped toes into pretty much every genre out there. Tend to be longer with 12ish episode 1hr each and lots of product placement. Heat/explicit levels vary depending on the show though Thailand does tend to produce some of the most explicit BLs. (Recs: Not me, Cutie Pie, Until we meet again)
Korea: Probably the highest standard of production value overall but also most are short series of 6-10 episode only 30mins each. Also don't see product placement much here. Stories tend to focus in schools again and the BL country that is most likely to have storylines about discovery of queer identity and acknowledgement of homophobia though still lots of cute ones. Storylines tend to be "safer" overall with less exploration of genre. KBLs tend to be the most conservative with intimacy and kissing scenes though they have gotten better in recent years. (Recs: Love for Loves Sake, Semantic Error, Eighth Sense)
Japan: Definitely your go it if looking for mature characters. Lots of JBL feature characters in their mid 20s - late 30s dealing with life in office jobs though there is of course schoolboy ones as well. Solid overall production value but short with most being 6-8 episode of 30 mins each. There is a certain quirk to the humour thats hard to describe but is very distinct. Also heat/explicit levels jump from super chaste to some of the horniest out there. (Recs: Love is better the second time around, Old Fashioned cupcake, Perfect Propose)
Taiwan: I find it a mix of the three previous countries. Production value is more middling and ranges from 6-20 episode 30 mins each. Queer identity as part of the storyline really depends on the show but Taiwan has a lot more complex storylines in a range of genres (they also like their mafia stuff), family also tends to be a core theme in stories. Heat levels tend to be in the middle but again depends on the show. (Recs: We best love (Both seasons), Kiseki Dear to me, Unknown).
If you ever wanted to get into korean BL, “love for love’s sake” storyline is so unique! (Atleast to me) the description with ZEROOO spoilers is about this guy finding himself transported into a video game and his sole mission is to bring happiness to the other main character, or else he’ll die. And he also has to figure out HOW he was transported there and wtf will he do.
Tankhun and Vegas are the best imho, but this whole cast was so good. I need to rewatch the series again.
I feel like you should watch moonlight chicken at some point- it bridges the gap Between western and Thai queer media well… a little more true to life but still classic bl troupes and of course every body and their mother is gay 🤣🙌 the Thai people know how to throw a queer little shindig
Sailing down the Chao Phraya river on my way to Wat Arun in Bangkok playing Jeff Satur's Why Don't You Stay was one of the highlights of my life, driving a scooter around the university campus in Chiang Mai and play Britney Spears' Toxic is another one 😂
These episodes are just a basement for the Tower... Keep going and than you will not be able to close your droped jaws. That's why i love this series 😅
I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS SERIES IS VERY MUCH DIFFERENT FROM THE USUAL BL SERIES !!!
Tankhun is very over the top, but there's a reason for it. (I love that Jeff Satur was in consideration for this role. There are clips on line. 😂) But seriously though, Tankhun is the GOAT. He's the older brother btw. Kinn is the middle child.
Once you go down the BL route you can’t get out of it I’m addicted now 😂 kinnporsche is one of my favs it gets hotter and better throughout !
Specially you get into thailand, Taiwan and Korean bls and throw in some Philippines too. China has some good fake bromance bl but only a few. 😂😂
im waiting for the twice a week upload of this show so baad
I appreciate that at the start, you seem to have read or have had someone read all of the comments we made under the previous video. It is very encouraging that when we write here, the info does sometimes get back to you so you can have more info about how to approach a topic or genre that might be newer to you culturally or societally.
Boys its a remember BL WORLD.. in this world people just are .. they are telling stories and the characters happen to be of the LGBTQ + community ( and you will see almost every representation there is ) ... and the genre will vary from Mafia , horror , university , high school .. you will see dark to cute and fluffy . .... you can watch by trope as well... Rich Daddy , Enemies to Lovers, Romance , comedy ... . I guess you guys miss my comments ... DO NOT watch through a WESTERN Lens
In bl series everyone is gay. It is like another universe where every male character is gay
or bi (I mean Porsche here is bi for example)
Except the parents! haha
@@muciSAD ya true parents are not gay/bi but there is exception to that also since in ailongnhai the parents are also gay
@@muciSAD some parents are gay, bi or lesbian too (Lovely Writer, Deep Night) and sometimes the uncles too (My Ride)
I have some show recommendations:
Never Let Me Go
Pit Babe
The Eclipse
Not Me
Bad Buddy
Moonlight Chicken
Wandee Goodday (Currently Ongoing)
My Stand-In (Currently Ongoing)
Cherry Magic (Japanese and Thai)
My Love Mix-Up (Japanese and Thai)
Semantic Error (Korean)
The Eighth Sense (Korean)
Very good shows, highly recommend. (Most of the shows listed can be found on the GMMTV YT channel for free. :))) And, imma tell you, I have a bingo list of tropes I’ve created whenever I watch a BL. “Sponsorships in show” is one of them. “Side pair/character superiority” is also on the list.
My question would be for you two is who is currently your favorite character while watching KinnPorsche? Love that you guys are enjoying the show, looking forward to the next episode!
I recommend The Eight Sense and Bad BUDDY
Story that is not in the series:
They are a mafia family, each child is born rich and is encouraged to build their own strength, until one day the family was out of control, with a main branch and several secondary branches, until Kinn's father decided to unify everything and he went out killing anyone who didn't agree (uncles and cousins) after several years of unification, the younger brother asked for permission to form the second family and Kinn's father allowed it
i think that that one of the best bls that shows good queer representation is Not Me, in my opinion it is an amazing bl !!!!!!!
They're about to meet tankhun and Vegas ! I can't !!
As for the title they chose for this reaction : "Back with Thai BL and bodyguards" , I wonder how they would have felt like if they had started with Unforgotten Night . Alex would have been killing it I think.
They started in the world of Thai Bls on the right foot. KinnPorsche is without a doubt one of the best series ever made in Thailand, everything was carefully thought out to deliver something truly unforgettable and they really succeeded (I must confess that after seeing this one I have been more critical in relation to others) but don't forget to see others please, Thailand is full of good series, I will recommend some: Not Me, Bad Buddy, I Feel You Linger In The Air, Last Twilight, I Told Sunset About You and 1000 stars. I'm loving seeing your reaction!
I've been watching bl for around 4 years now, and I don't even give a second thought on how open and apparent everything is, as it's just part of most of the shows, and I love it. I'm really glad that you've chosen to watch bl's and I hope you give other series a chance after this one... as with others saying maybe not the best one to start with (just down to the dark parts) but I did really enjoy watching when it aired. May be get a few bl series names and do a poll on which bl to watch next as I'm sure we all have a few favourites that we would love you to react to
The Sign, Last Twilight, or Until We Meet Again should be next if you continue your Thai BL journey LOL
Oh and hunting for product placements will become your new norm 😅
Tankhun is my favourite character, and the actor Tong who plays him is equally awesome. He did some cool educational videos whilst Kinnporsche was airing about sexuality and gender - he also came out shortly after Kinnporsche finished airing at one of the Kinnporsche World Tour stops, which is hella brave of him as there aren't many out actors in the thai bl industry (loads of directors and writers though).
You mentioned the contrast between seriousness and sitcom energy in the show, and the one thing that I felt held Kinnporsche back for me was the lack of consistency in direction. The show doesn't seem to know if it's a lakorn (thai soap opera), a dark mafia drama or something else sometimes which can work, but at other times it undermines the quality of the show for me.
one of the most popular and well known dark mafia drama series is the Yakuza videogame series, which also contrasts between deathly serious stories about topical political and moral events in Japanese society, and funni goofy slapstick. Honestly KPTS handles this balance very well, especially when you realize at the end what the true creeping horror is all about (NO SPOILERS)
Just finished these series by two days and it's one of the best BL's so far, can't wait for you to keep watching this one!
You should definitely keep watching. The show is a whole rollercoaster ride of emotions
Thankun is my favourite character 😂😂absolutely love him, he is an icon and his the oldest brother
You guys are hilarious and I have fun rewatching the series with you. Hope you don't get scared off the darker parts and drama bits of the series and pull through to the end ;)
I've rewatched KP so many times but your edits, funny comments and especially hearing your perspective on the series as first time BL watchers is making this the best rewatch!
i like this show but my favs are only friends which is quite messy and the eclipse which is softer but still adventorous. really good representation is in moonlight chicken so i think you would love these
KinnPorsche is ethically wild like Interview with the Vampire is. Mafia members and vampires don’t play by the same rules as average citizens and struggle to have non-toxic relationships with each other. I think if you can watch IWTV, you’ll be fine.
There is a lot of servant master dynamyics in Thai dramas from the culture, it takes some getting used to. It was nice to see one of the famous BL houses in KinnPorsche, the main family's brick house. Depending on how many BL series you watch you will quickly get used to spotting them. It is hilarious to recognise which house was used by which character in which series and what happened there. 🤣
Love to see new people getting into BL :)
Just a few more facts on BL for you (as someone who studies the genre and Thailand. You can also find a lot of essays on the genre as it has been very seriously studied for the last 5 years or more):
1- BL rarely say that this or that character is gay, characters are always implied and showed as gay but rarely labelled as one. Regardless of BL popularity and the recent law for same sex marriage, Thailand is still not very open on the subject (the gouvernment sees BL as a way to expand its international influence and as Thailand soft power). BL are not fighting for the LGBTQ+ communty's rights, they're only here for entertainment. Also, BL depict romances between beautiful men (handsomeness is actually one criteria to chose the actors) in a world were the LGBTQ+ community is perfectly respected and accepted. In that way, very few BL show the struggles of coming out or being accepted as who we are
2- BL are mainly written and thought for a female audience
3- you rarely see female characters and if you see some they are minor characters with little impact on the plot
4- Thai acting and story telling is very different from Western norms. Screams, loud shouts, overreacting and overacting is very common
Regarding the 1st point, I think things have changed quite a bit in the recent years where even local people know about bl and support it (I've seen several thai bl actors talk about it).
I dont think it's right to say that bl rarely shows LGBTQ+ struggles cuz there's like 100s of them talking about manyyy different topics, even things that might be often overlooked. One thing I've heard from a lot of queer people watching bl content is that they don't want all the stories to talk about the same thing, this is one of the reasons why many queer people are starting to enjoy bls and gls... also there's plenty of shows depicting the fear of coming out. (U can see people talking about this topic in the comment section as well)
Also being attractive is a criteria to be an actor/actress in most filming industries?? Atleast that's what I've seen in Asian media, idk about the west.
And yes bls were made for the female audience INITIALLY but the industry is slowly changing and we are seeing so much growth in so less time so let's not stereotype this industry, it will only turn people away.
Ohyeeaah! BL is so my pet peeve with their telenovela worthy plotlines. And KinnPorsche is the best of those 😂
wait until they get to episode 3 and 4 😀
Yeahhh!
Yeah, I'm not sure they were told how episode 1 and 2 are never rated as high as the rest of the series . They are rather messy, with a lot of characters ( and some hints) being introduced but scenes and moods are a bit all over the place .
People usually start getting really interested from episode 3 on.
11:03 this scene was so hilarious to me even tho I feel bad for Elizabeth and Sebastian 😂😭 tankhun is an absolute icon and funny asf
One really good Thai bl is I told sunset about you, is a really visually pleasing show with good plot about discovering one self and is a little shorter( 5 ep with I think 50 Min each) but is a really good show that is more of a emotional one!!❤❤❤❤
I cannot wait for you to get to some of the episodes coming up! Your reactions are going to be....quite the thing! And I have to join the folks who are saying, "You wanted to try Thai BL, and you started with KINNPORSCHE?????" I mean...it's a bonkers fun show (and super f'ed up in the best way,) but...whoa! It's a lot for a first BL show. If you want a more balanced view of the genre, I'd try "Bad Buddy" or "Tale of a 1000 Stars." Or maybe "Until We Meet Again" or "Moonlight Chicken" if you want something a little more emotionally heavy.
All of these handsome men already, and my favorite character hasn't even been introduced yet! Also, there's morally grey, and then there's...this. Don't say we didn't try to obliquely warn you!
I am LIVING for these reactions omggggg you guys are so funny and I just finished my 4th kinnporsche rewatch!! please watch until the end I need to see it all
Seriously, I can't wait for you to watch the rest of the series it gets better and better. I watched the whole series about 10 times one of my favourite bl series
in BL it is pretty common for most of the characters to be some kind of queer.
So in the novel-not in the series-Tankhun is after Dr. Top. But the only reason he wants the doctor is because Macau likes the doctor and Tankhun hate Macau. Other than that, tankhun's sexuality is not mentioned
Buuut in the next episode we get a hint at what he is interested in, not so subtly.
Don’t forget watch the OST AS WELL THEY ARE AS IMP AS THE EPISODES. Thai bl songs play a huge part coz it’s sung by the leads or one of the main cast. Who btw is a huge star there in Thailand Jeff Satur.( one of the main cast)
Aaaah Jeff Satur he is dreaaaamyyyyy 😅
They literally have the best ost
Note- The major family has three sons- Tankhun(oldest) , Kinn(middle) , Kim(youngest). The minor family has two sons- Vegas(oldest) and Macau.
I'm not gonna give any spoiler but the upcoming episodes and the last episodes are full of story twist..
when i was watching the series i can't wait for the new ep which came in sat and sunday cuz it was so exciting and full of curiousness and i'm sure you're gonna be as well..
What I like about Thai series (the ones that are boys love or girls love) is that everyone is queer, most of the characters are gay. This is wonderful! A world of our own, normalized as it should be.
also, thai dramas tend to have lots of comedy and chaos in them but it disappeares almost fully after that
As a long-established fujoshi (BL fan) I always find it interesting to see men react to BL, very entertaining.
Cause the thing is, while a lot of people nowadays categorize everything that features male-male romance as "BL" (especially coming from Asia), BL is not queer media per se, BL is a genre initially made by (straight) women for (straight) women. There is queer media in Asia by queer people for queer people, but BL is a bit of a special case.
Let me elaborate. BL is originally a manga genre that came to be in the 1970s in Japan. At the time, society (?) thought that shoujo manga (comics for girls that usually feature a male-female romance and are created by women) should not show "inappropriate" behavior from women, as to not set "bad examples" for their readers. So the creators of shoujo manga simply replaced their heroines with androgynous looking males to avoid this "problem". Their heroes looked so pretty and delicate that the genre was even called bishounen (pretty boy) manga for a while.
And BL (or "shounen ai" in Japanese) was originally just romance stories, the smutty version being yaoi. Nowadays many people do not make this distinction anymore. (The same goes for GL or shoujo ai and its smutty counterpart yuri, which -unlike BL- are not intended for a specific audience. GL is nothing new btw, just that more GL TV series are being made is a newer phenomenon.)
(There is of course a separate manga genre by gay men for gay men called "bara".)
Anyway, that's why in BL TV series, novels and mangas oftentimes most men are gay, nobody questions it, and the stories are just like any straight romance. Plus, the actors in BL series are usually straight, since they're supposed to appeal to a (straight) female audience. This is the case for most series categorized as "BL" coming from countries like Japan, South Korea and Taiwan, though especially newer BL do seem to try to appeal to other audiences as well, addressing topics like women's rights, animal rights or other specific societal issues.
(Why BL appeals to women so much is a whole thing, don't even get me started.)
Meanwhile, Thai people call their male-male romance series "series Y" (for obvious reasons). A few of them are typical BL, while others have not only queer actors but also address queer issues like queer rights, coming out to the parents etc. and are written or at least directed by queer men.
KinnPorsche does have quite a few classical BL elements, as the novel the series is based on was written by a (as far as I know straight) woman, the romance and the actors' looks are (imo) targeting straight women (which obviously does not mean they can't appeal to gay men), and our dear Thankhun ... well, not gonna spoil it for you. I'm definitely curious what you guys will think about the queer aspects and not-so-queer aspects of this series.
So yeah, BL can undoubtedly appeal to (gay) men, just wanted to make it clear that BL is usually made by (straight) women with the main target audience specifically being (straight) women, so that the two of you know what you're watching and why some things are the way they are in KinnPorsche. Hope it helped and thanks for reading if you made it this far! x) Looking forward to your reactions to the following episodes!
this should’ve been your 5th bl series you watched or something other then first this has a totally different aspect on bl and it’s a lot more spicy haha I think starting off with softer and cute bls like cutie pie, middleman love, bed friends, my school president or toncholontte would’ve been better so you can see the aspect but regardless don’t let this stop you from checking out others and don’t expect them all to be like this or have the same graphics !
I couldn't stop laughing, had to stop every two seconds to take a breath 😂
Love your reaction❤
Oh you guys have an uncut reaction OMG! That’s great!! Let’s me move there🤭🤭
I watched your reaction which in turn made me binge-watch the whole series and now I'm obsessed 😅
Maybe you'd like to watch and react to Korean BL and Japanese BL too. I'd love to hear your thoughts about it especially on how you think it differs in each country.
For Korean BL, I highly recommend The Eighth Sense and To My Star S1&S2. For Japanese BL, there's quite a lot of interesting shows but Cherry Magic and Old Fashion Cupcake received good reviews from the viewers.
KinnPorsche is a wild ride. Next you should react to a more light hearted BL like My School President!
Saw your previous episode review and I actually went and watched the entire series 😂. It’s pretty decent with some over the top comedy type elements, which I dig. This eldest brother was my favorite character
I personally like that in Bl´s pretty much everyone is queer and nobody questions anyting because it leaves out the drama and trouble of having to come out to everyone. And when the characters do come out, it usually goes with them coming out and their family being like "Oh, alright. We love you anyways, thanks for telling us." I feel like they save me a lot of anxiety lol. All the drama and story comes from the relationship itself and not the fact that they are queer.
If want a series w/c talks about coming out, i suggest a Filo BL series called "Gaya sa Pelikula" its a good series in terms of plot. You can see all the comments trying to crack their brains out to explain details in the series. It is so good.
Me: Woooo! They're watching my favourite show! This is hilarious! Also Me: Guess it's time to re-watch KP again...
YESSS i'm so happy you're watching episode 2!!! tankhun is the BEST character everrrrr!! and the actor is gay irl 🌈
Love it, here some suggestions for BL series
The sign
Last twilight
Only boo
The stand in
Wandee goodday
Love in the air
Not me
My school president
Pit babe
Only friends
Moonlight chicken
Never let me go
The eclipse
I knew Alex would find the apple situation hot ..hahahah BTW By the end of KP Alex will be considering moving to Thailand and after he has been introduced to the GMM Boys .. Josh will be doing these reviews ALONE!!!!
He'll be craving Thai bread, and watching interviews in languages he doesn't comprehend soon , I think ! Let's just hint at Sign having the equivalent of mermaids, and that's a done deal.