DONT GET BURNED! How to Buy a good Used Skid Steer, wheels v/s tracks and more!
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- DONT GET BURNED! How to Buy a good Used Skid Steer, wheels v/s tracks and more! Come along on the farm today as we talk about how to be an informed consumer when buying heavy equipment like a skid steer or skid loader, bobcat
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My grandpa always told me tracks for mud and tires for dirt
My skidsteer got stuck on the dirt up against a tree
So tires for concrete?
Well you know if dirt gets wet… then its mud
Always pull the dipstick while the engine is running and check for Blow-by by putting your finger over the dipstick tube. There should not be pressure or smoke coming out of the tube. Especially important on higher hour machines.
@First Choice Mechanical yes that will work too. I have seen dipstick blow out of the tube. Just depends how clapped out the engine is lol.
Also if you go look at a piece if equipment look for signs of old grease, someone could of just greased to sell it. And ask if you can grease the fittings yourself, how well they take grease will also tell how often they got grease
One big item to pay attention too are re-painted and rebadged machines.if the machine looks like new,pay attention and dig deep,it's usually been so well used they had to paint it in order to even make a sale.NOT ALWAYS,but quite often.I strive for,original used paint,cold starts,stored inside,and all maint documents,and the number of owners a machine has had.Good vid,thanks.
Agree about the paint. I've been looking off and on for about a year and have seen a lot of pigs with lipstick.
Good general rule but i treat all my stuff like a princess, touch up whenever there is a scratch etc also. I understand what it cost to buy and i respect that
@@OShackHennessy Nice.I would like to do a project 1840 case old school skidsteer,and do a complete refurb and paint.For myself.Thanks for watching.
Great info! I think you covered it all!
Tape or sticker over speaker holes works wonders for back up alarm too loud and annoying. Possibly better option then complete disconnect.
yep...just disconnect it if ya don't like ...can be annoying
Looks like a yellow Takeuchi to me. So it’s definitely a good machine then. I got a 2002 takeuchi tl150 and it’s been a good machine. Had 3 bobcats before that two tire machines and one track loader. Definitely like the Takeuchi better
Hour to HP is relatively moot. I’ve seen low hour higher HP machines worked like a rented mule. Conversely I have seen higher hour lower HP machines that have had excellent maintenance and the machines ran incredibly. I think it all boils down to maintenance, like mileage on a car. I’d rather have a well maintained high mileage car than a fleet vehicle or rental that was beat every minute it ran.
All in all good video.
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Wow, Josh - that was a lot of excellent info! I don't currently have a NEED for a skid loader, but I certainly WANT one. :)
Thanks for this video! I have been thinking of purchasing one just for my own personal use around the house. Kind of a scary step to take not really knowing much about skid steer loaders. Thanks again for this very helpful video!
Also consider where you are going to operate your machine. Besides dirt or concrete. Are you going to operate in wooded thorns or possible running a brush hog or what attachments will you use will effect between tire or tracks. Great video Stoney Ridge Farmer. Thanks farmer rod
I think I read the comments for Josh's reply more so than for the actual comments! Be good SRF....whoooo!
bhahhahaha....sometimes we get some interesting comments here for sure...also get some interesting replies
I don't question your answere, but the original question: Why a skid-steere? Why not a Caterpillar, Volvo, Kubota or other wheel loader? My PERSONAL opinion is that they are more versatile if there isn't a big question about room. Skid-steers are great doing utility work around houses and on building sites where you have to turn around on a dime.
On the alternator-belt: if it's worn it will touch the bottom of the pulley and tightening will not help. If the the top side of the belt goes into the pulley it's good for a change...
I have 4 tractors on the farm.....the skid loader is the best at material and dirt work. I can run circles around any other machine on the farm with this little loader. Yep..alternator belt is just a bit loose my friend
How have you been Mr stoney ridge .I've been dealing whith alot and been missing vids but I'm back now .godbless and stay safe
Check how long the back order for the rubber tracks are and how long the back has been. We have several clients that have machines with tracks on back order. But also don't order them and have them sit in the elements so they break down and crack before you even get to them
I own a JD260 and know what you mean. I have the really big tires so I can traverse muddy areas better but still not the best. Bought mine used...unseen. i knew the hour meter had been replaced...most have been in that generation of machine. Still a great skiddy for what I need. Just depends on your use. Great beginner video.
I bought a wheeled machine because my road is two miles long(travel speed is faster)and I live in Montana so wo do not have very many mud days. I do have an extra set of mounted tires with cleated chains on them. With my dewalt impact I can change tires in less then ten minutes and it does much better than a track machine on ice which I do get alot of. My machine is a 2015 L230 New holland, thanks for the video!!!
interesting....but the track machine is just as fast as the wheeled machine I had.....for the farm the tracks are 1000 times better...but we all have our opinions...drive a track machine and you'll never go back my brotha
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer I have operated the track machines and they are great. I think top speed in your machine is about 8 mph?? My machine is 12 mph it does make a difference if you have to travel alot. I had a track machine here on my ranch for about six months (T 250 Bobcat) when I first bought the place and it was great until it got snow packed and icey then it turned into a slip and slide event and I was running ice tracks. The first time I plowed snow with my machine on ice with the chains on it was an animal. I have steep grades on my ranch road and I can plow up hill with this setup (9' snow dogg plow with wings 11'). The tracked skidsteer could not plow uphill on my road. Like I said we do not get as wet here in Montana as you do but we do have hard winter. Thanks again!!! P.S. I looked up the specs on the gehl rt210 and the new holland l230 is a full 4 mph faster!!!!
L230 that’s a beast and I agree on snow I did a demo with a case track machine and I had a hill that I had packed down from driving my pickup on it and with a full bucket of wood I couldn’t make the hill. So tires and chains work better for me. You can get more aggressive tracks or I know guys that stud their tracks like a snowmobile.
Hey Josh. Thank you for the video and thank you for showing all that needs to be learned about the skid loader before purchasing one woo
Good points. I just bought a '19 Takeuchi TL10V2 and the machine would not start after trailering it home, ok so I put a new battery in it and was able to unload it. Now the machine is in limp mode with a comm error between computers. Trust your senses... this was the biggest purchase I've ever made other than homes. Huge mistake for me.
You can also buy metal tracks for a wheel skid steer. That's what we used on our 8875 John deer
yep...I have a few vids out on my prior machine with wheels and tracks
Good looking machine, the used machine market is crazy right now so hopefully you got a good deal
This loader would come in handy with blizzard we are experiencing right now in northeast
Just drove home from PA yesterday! 8 hours driving in that mess!
Tracks are the way to go if you've got snow! Take care
@@patrickbass3118 I beg to differ. My wheeled skidsteer with cleated chains will run circles around a tracked machine on snow and ice. I have operated both on my ranch and the tracked machine was running ice tracks and it was still slipping and sliding the chained up wheel machine was an unstoppable animal!!!
Amazing video! Great coverage of the systems and good views of the key points to observe.
Glad you enjoyed it!
When you see Mike Morgan today you and he can discuss all the things you can do with one of these!
Thank You!
Great video thanks for updating on skid steers
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Hey Josh 🇺🇲 WOOOOOO 🇺🇲 great information always enjoy watching your videos 🇺🇲
I found out wheels don't work. My soil wasn't that soft, but got stuck up against a tree. I need tracks definitely.
Keep on Truckin… and Skidding
Happy for your purchase enjoy
Thank you soo soo much for the video God bless you brother❤💯❤
I had a older gehl and that machine was a great machine. I recently got a real buy on a 2012 320d John Deere with 853 hours can heat air two speed air ride seat and i know where it came from so it was never worked hard. 23,500
That’s why I pack one brand bobcat skid steer
Hey Brother... Bring back the Rick Flair "WHOOO", in your intro!
Hello Josh, thank you for this video!
On min. 7:44 "by shims" you mean the cylinder pins that goes through the end of each cylinder? They with time in fact get wore out.
The short hose you touch by the right of your skid steer, notice it has some bumps or out of shape I think by pressure of the hydraulic pump or past abuse or low quality section of the hose, maybe you want to review it, buy it and have any hose looking like bumpy replaced before they go off while you less expect it. Please let me know if am wrong.
Very informative video.Thanks for sharing
Long but worth reading: recovering from 2 surgeries so can't make long trips. Need a backhoe so working via net. So,found a 2005 JD 310G 4wd open station at a dealer 170 miles away.30+ pics and 2 videos. Hour meter showed under 500 hours."Owned since new by a gravedigger".
$38,500.00 and bought it. From dealer straight to JD Construction equipment dealer service shop. ECM shows true hours at 2972. Not pissy. Left rear tire has a torn bead. Still not pissy.Nickle and dime service and repairs,complete set of JD manuals,complete set of spare filters,etc should be under $5000.00. $43,500.00 for a backhoe that will have parts available for at least another 15 years,low hours at 2972,will last me probably longer than I'll live. Short video on my channel when it arrived at the JD shop. Shop foreman says it's a goodun.
I just sold a 310d for under 20k! With less than 2000 hours brotha
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer Regional price difference. Here in Texas and within 500 miles of me 20K will only get you a somewhat complete but high hour (+5000 hours) unit. I probably looked at 300 different backhoe listings. No such thing as a "cheap" backhoe near me. Main thing I looked at was year model: parts availability on old units can be a real issue.
310G are supposed to be just about bullit proof. One of the better series JD built. Time will tell.Wish I could have come there and looked at/bought yours my friend. Sounds like it was a fine unit.Heck of a deal too.
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer Forgot: Asked sales at JD what a new 310 series open station goes for. $110,000.00 to $120,000.00 and at least 6 month wait.Stuff has gotten WAY too high,if you can get it.
Solid information share👍
Have a good evening 🌱🌱🌱
Lots of info thanks man
You bet
I wish u could come with me when I go to look skid steers
you got this!
Thanks for all the great information! What will it taste like if there's anti-freeze in the oil? Will the ethylene glycol be sweet?
I don't advise doing this for obvious reasons, but I've heard it can have a sweet taste and it could be foamy
Check things that you might not even use because the day YOU sell it, it could turn out to be a deal breaker. All kinds of people in this world.
I do NOT recommend tasting coolant 🤦♂️
thank you so much for the tips! I’m looking to buy my first smaller, skid loader, just something big enough to pick up round bales from 1100 to 1700 pounds. I know the stated capacity is not accurate for this type of work. Wondered if anybody came up with a formula to figure out what you need for capacity when you were picking up a 6 foot long bale?
Popular expression around here when check-out equipment or vehicles operate like you stole it lol lol
SRF where you get this from lol can whistlin diesel and myself come take a look at it?
Sure he seems nice 👍
...Is that WhistlinDiesel's Skid Loader? 😁
sure....whatever ya'll wanna say bhahahha
regen is costly to replace and you have to replace it regularly
why would ya have to replace the regen?
Nice addition to the farm. Did you get rid of skiddy bop?
yes...replaced it with this loader
Why are cup holders always mentioned in equipment reviews
because you need a place to put a water bottle or drink aside from bouncing around in the cab floor....right? Staying hydrated is part of a construction worker's job too
I can already tell that I’ll absolutely LOVE this channel! 🙌🏻
welcome aboard!
Great tips
Woooooo!
I’m considering a bobcat from a plant nursery, is that hard work on the skid steers?
yep....plant nursery .....start, stop, start, stop....multiple different drivers over years of abuse. I'd rather buy from a farm or local contractor or buy at a dealer with some warranty
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HAY STONY, I LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYIN'... THANX FOR THE WALK AROUND, ANY AND ALL INFO. 'S WORTH IT... WHAT MADE YOU SETTLE ON THIS MACHINE AS OPPOSED TO OTHERS??? WAS IT AVAILABILITY OR BEST OF THE BUNCH??? I LIKE ASV OR JBL, WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON THESE??? THANX FOR THIS VIDEO, THE INFORMATION IS GREATLY APPRECIATED... PEACE...
Will a 6foot 5 be comfortable in your machine? Is a skid the same as a tractor when hitting 5000 hours? Might need a overhaul?
I'm 6'5" and it's just fine...as for 5000 hours....I guess it depends on maintenance and use my friend...hard to predict
Thankz!
Tracked > Tires any day of the week
idk if you know this but def fluid is nothing but pig urine used it a lot on the old repo truck when i was a repo man
hmmm....I think for the cost of DEF....I'll just buy DEF instead of ruining my system my brotha
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer I would too its obviously processed before it become actual def but it really is just that even says urea on the bottles lol smart choice tho brotha thanks for the informative videos
Josh, what are your views on rubber tracks-over-wheels? Do they really work well?
Tracks are for soft surfaces whereas tires for harder more compacted surfaces
75 HP? How many gal/hr do you get with that thing? It must drink diesel like lemonade on a hot day 😂. I am curious though. I'm debating tractor vs track loader but those high horse engines seem like a big expense to maintain.
hmmm....I can run it for 8hours on about 3-5 gallons of fuel...I'd say not bad at all
@Stoney Ridge Farmer yeah that doesnt seem bad at all. Thanks for the info!
How much would a machine like this cost me sir I'm about to buy a used track skid steer
do some research online...probably around $38k ish
First like bro ❤️❤️❤️🤝👍✌️😊
Going to get one for my business and I’ve been looking at the market for a track loader and they seem to hold their value pretty well (compared to a truck at least) so I was thinking maybe to go get a new one with warranty. I’m straight out of high school and I’m not a mechanic so getting one used is a little scary. Let me know y’all’s opinions!
If you don’t know how to work on equipment…buy something and work on it brotha! Or RUclips it! Never start any venture in your life by putting yourself in debt without a means to pay it prior to going in debt
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer 100% facts.
1-Buy what you can afford, what you hope it'll pays or produce back (so hopefully you have jobs demanding you to have one heavy equipment), and always, from a person you feel he's not pushing you to buy it like in a hurry or desperate! Always buy from someone although you don't know, that transmits a sense of him being a friend. 2-If possible check the equipment all you can and try to operate it. The most important things in anything, is that it'll functions and it's heaviest parts aren't too wore out like the sprokets (the denture wheel that is undercarriage moving the tracks. Cylinder leaks are the easiest fixes. Hydraulic hoses can be more complicated because you'll need to track them or run them through parts you'll have to take off of the machine but the most expensive parts, engine and transmission, if the machine has low hours, and it's visual parts like the sprokets don't used too used or wore out, and you can make it move, the owner is not pushing it, is a great deal. Try to get it as cheap as possible but this machines aren't cheap because they can make money so, you get ready to spend as much as you feel comfortable, and keep that same amount or some thousands untouched, to repair it one day. If you do, the jobs you do will help you recover and hopefully make more money than you spent.
And one more, search for mechanics in your area and go with the ones you feel they don't see your millionaire's face, those who don't see you as rich will protect your hard earned money and won't rip you off when charging you!
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer Thanks you for your input! I really agree with you on the fact that knowledge truly is everything! Thank you sir
Whats a good old model skid that’s cheap and reliable. I have 2 new skids but I need one that stays outside my shop for shop tasks. Something under 20k preferably
A new skid steer
Is it a low flow or high flow
Fair warning, do NOT take a shot every time he asks 'Mkay?' or 'Alright?'
why not?
What's the going price range for skid steer for 1 in your horsepower and condition ???
do some research on these websites like machinery pete before ya buy. Something like this could be as low as 20k and as high as $38k depending on the seller
Tracks only, period
What breed of cows do you have bro
Black angus
How much?
Bought a skidsteer, INSTANT EXPERT!!! just kidding
yep...after owning a wheeled loader for 2-3 years and buying a track loader....I'd say sharing what I've learned is invaluable information. FYI Grandpa used to say this...picking at someone is a sly way of telling the truth wink wink
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer I glad you finally acknowledged
LOL.....ur a funny guy..just looked at your channel
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I have successfully urinated…. LOL
lol...little gems in the out takes sometimes lol
12:50 tasting Antifreeze wiLL KILL your kidneys, a 4 SURE way to have an appoinment 3 times a week at a dialysis clinic for the rest of your Life 🤢🤕
tasting no....drinking....yes. I'm a registered nurse of about 13 years ICU experience...we had several folks that came in over and over again after drinking antifreeze...the newer stuff isn't as bad as the older stuff from before 2005 ish
The way you'd get burned in the used car market these days the equipment side must be a nightmare.😏😐 Don't buy used.
😳🫣There gonna screw us either way...😅