I really hope they redesign all the ride vehicles. It's really ridiculous that they did not even think about the potential differences between primarily Chinese park-goers and a more international (though chiefly American) crowd.
My favorite part was the critique of tester placement. How many walked away because they didn’t want to wait in line to try or try in front of people streaming in. A little empathy goes a long way. Also the Kenny CGI was seamless.
Agreed! I feel like other parks have a little more discretion in this regard. What would it hurt to put the test vehicle in a little secluded cove area?
I’m an average height/average weight 19 y/o girl but I think this is really great! I also agree that flight of passage’s ride vehicle was very restrictive. I felt every tiny movement I made and it poked me all over. Not to mention I had to wear the goggles over my glasses so they didn’t even really work and it made my tummy hurt 😕
Thanks for making this video and thanks for not stigmatizing your body at all. So many people feel the need to be ashamed when talking about things like measurements and fits, so it's always refreshing when someone doesn't. Do you know if the back support has a limit the way the knee bar does? I'm worried that since they're all connected, my waist/hips would prevent the knee bars from fully engaging.
Thank you SO MUCH for this overview. My giant calves of doom may conflict with the silver stick of doom and force me into the accessible seats, but it still seems worth trying. I can take anything for 90 seconds. They definitely should have done a little more market research on the seats. It's almost like they haven't looked at Americans before 😅
My calves measure at about 19-21 depending where I measure... my sister pushed it shut on me 😂 let me yell you it HURT but once the ride started I didn't feel it. 100% worth it. Absolutely amazing experience
I have to say that this video not only helps with weight, but also autism and associated disabilities, as it describes eacxly how the restraints work which is useful as i would have become upset about the sliver bar of doom, but now i know that it’s coming and i can prepare for that. Thank you so much Dan
I’m a husky male and this is what helped me: (possibly NSFW metaphor ahead) get your hips up forward on the bike like it’s a lover in a maneuver with a canine name. Then curve your upper body up around the body of the bike. Sounds weird, but that’s what worked for me. Just make sure your hips are square and as far forward as possible.
I’d definitely second the leggings thing. I rode it one day with tights and another day with just shorts. It can be difficult to maneuver yourself with your skin sticking and pulling against the plastic of the seats. Also riding without tights caused me to get some minor bruising on the inside of my knees and thighs that I still have four days later (doesn’t hurt, just visual). And the silver daft punk member is the cutest
Thanks so much for making this video to help us all out- although, even if I do fit I’m still not sure my arthritis and old dance injury wouldn’t make that bike utterly inaccessible to me. Truly, it’s wild how little forethought seemed to go into this on Disney’s end.
Here here. I am wracked by anxiety about fitting on rides. I'm 5'10 300lbs (big gut, big shoulders) and it really sucks waiting in an hour long queue at Universal to not be allowed on a ride because my shoulders were too wide. I really don't want to see Disney heading down that path.
I’m a size 18/20 but I carry a lot of my weight in my thighs and calves. My husband is a bigger guy, larger around his middle than I am and about a 2X in T-shirts. His calves and thighs are not as big as mine. We went on Tron today and I was a no go for the bike. The back wouldn’t even come up and engage because the bar stopped on my calf. I couldn’t even comfortably move up enough to try to get it to engage (thunder thighs). Luckily, we were on the very last seat in front of the accessible car. The cast member simply allowed me to get off the bike and sit down in the accessible seat. That seat was comfortable and I had no difficulty with the bar. It was still a bit upsetting and humiliating. I’ve never had to take a “walk of shame” at Disney. As a side note, I fit on Avatar FoP just fine, so Tron is a totally different beast.
❗️❗️STATS: 5’5 220lbs size 16/18 calf 16in / mid thigh 24in ❗️❗️ I was able to ride March 4th and was so very nervous in line Bc of what everyone was sharing but I fit no problem and it felt like there was plenty of room to spare. I completely agree with the pants/legging suggestion my sister and I actually said that as we were getting into the ride 😂😂 and I did notice they added markings to the test seat to show how far the handles needed to come down.
I didn't know that this was a ride. It does sound interesting but I feel that there should be accessible seats on most (at least 5 out of the 7) if not all of the trains/rides. It's good that you're pointing these out for those able to go to Disney World. (I live in the UK, so going back to Disneyland Paris one day or one of the other Disney parks would be great. I live vicariously through your videos.)
It's nice to see someone actually provide useful information in a positive way instead of just jumping on the clickbait hate bandwagon I see going on about the ride.
"this is not something i've ever had to deal with at the disney parks before. it's something i exclusively deal with at universal, and it's the reason i don't go there to vacation." - this, 100%. like i'm pretty sure i have said this exact thing before. my husband is 6'4" and not lanky, i'm 5'9" 250lbs, and it aggravates me that we have to deal with this at WDW now!!! thanks for the great video so we're at least prepared.
This is so amazing of you!! I was so nervous, I also didn’t think I was going to fit. At universal or Busch gardens, my hips prevent me from sitting in most seats. I’m 5’9, around 300lbs and carry most of my weight in my stomach, hips and butt. 19inch calves and 29inch thighs. The safety bar of doom was definitely pinching me LMAO. I feel like I barely fit but I didn’t need an extra push, so maybe there’s more room than it felt like! Very scary to share this because when people were first voicing their concerns about the size of this ride, I saw so much fatphobic backlash 😢
Your measurements seem about what mine are, so thank you for your post. I had the humiliating experience of being told I couldn't ride rides at Universal, and the thought of being put through that at Disney is HORRIBLE. Hopefully I'll be able to fit this ride when I get to go.
It’s the thighs I’m worried about for myself next week. I’ve never been able to ride Flight of Passage because I can’t get far enough forward in the link chair because of my large thighs. Time to break out the measuring tape.
@Doc2W I had a feeling my thighs were preventing me from getting into optimal position. My calves are somewhere between 19 and 21...my sister gave the push and whew did it pinch. Had bruising but was so glad to have the experience! Hoping when I go back in July I've lost enough weight to not hurt 😂
This was so helpful! Thank you for your vulnerability!🤍I’m going mid august and worried about fitting onto Tron and FOP. Going to try to get my walk on consistently leading up to the trip and maybe that’ll help😅
THIS is the only fit check I was looking for! My husband is about your build, with really meaty calves and thighs, so this is his main concern. Thanks for the measurements, the tips to fitting better. All of it.
Gotta say Dan, you did pretty excellent that time. You know TRON is one of my favorite Disney franchises, besides Toy Story, Disney Princess, Winnie The Pooh, and of course, Mickey and Friends, considering that I'm a fan of video games and technology in general. I especially LOVE the vehicles and everything that the grid looked like inside.
As a ride operator (not for Tron and not even for Disney) as well as a big guy, it's stupid that Vekoma wouldn't have some kind of indicator system on the test seat. Where I work, and where I have worked, there have been indicator lights, pieces of tape, minimal locking ratchets, seat belts... I mean, you name it I've seen it. It almost renders the test seat useless. I've had to use my own best judgment when it comes to certain test seats when I let a guest ride, and sometimes I would see them exit early because they didn't fit once they got to the station. I felt bad, but all that blame falls on the manufacturer. They need to give the parks better equipment when they know they need it. My favorite ride to work at was Full Throttle at Magic Mountain, because the indicator lights as well as the tape on the lap bar made it really easy to know that this guest fit. There wasn't a test seat, but the light was my best friend. Premier isn't off the hook though, because when their seats DON'T have indicator lights, that's a problem and from there, it's a best judgment situation. Hopefully the system at Tron gets better because I've been on both sides and it sucks as a ride op to have to tell a guest they can't ride after trying so long (usually because they get mad and blame you for it) and it sucks when I'm the guest in that situation, because now I don't get to experience this thing with my friends.
thank you so much for this, and for keeping it positive while also being really informative & honest. i feel a lot less anxious about fitting on the ride now!
So I have been on the ride and here's my full story.... I am about 230 pounds. 5'2"...(which I would not consider that big?) but my calf size is pretty large. While I fit perfectly into flight of passage with no problems, I did have a lot of problems with Tron. When I walked up to the test seat I didn't fit on the ride. Pretty heartbreaking actually. BUT I was close, so close that a cast member actually told me that I should try on the actual ride. Now getting on the ride, I still had a bit of trouble and was barely not fitting. However...to my biggest the surprise the cast member did actually work with me to push down the back which ended up locking me into the ride (pretty tightly on my leg). I don't really think they were supposed to do that but I was grateful. The ride was supper fun but it did leave me with a pretty nasty bruise from the cut of circulation. Probably won't ride again until some kind of adjustment is made (hopefully) The problem really comes down to height/calf size. Being short it was a bit harder to get my knee all the way into the front part which make the metal bar basically hit my largest part of my calf. What's even more strange was despite not being able to feel my leg, I felt no restriction or discomfort at all anywhere else. Also I'd recommend riding earlier in the day/your trip when you legs are not as swollen from all the walking/standing you may have been doing previous. Leggings also sounds like a smart idea and I would probably try that if I ride again. Thanks for listening.
For any of my fellow short, heavy ladies…I have the exact same calf and thigh measurements as Dan but I’m 4’11” and it was absolutely not happening for me. I’m so short that there was no way to maneuver myself to reach the handlebars and keep my legs out long enough. I had to wait for the regular cart which I was not expecting to have to do. It was still fun from the back. I tried the bike many times after riding, not the best experience as everyone is watching and trying to take pictures. I’m going to try the tester seat again in winter to see if the leggings trick will help. For reference, I have no issues with Flight of Passage or any Universal rides. So I guess it’s just that Safety Bar of Doom
I"m fat and disabled and as soon as I heard about the ride vehicles it scared me. leaning forward like that i knew would put my back in agony. I had a similar problem with flight of passage, I havent ridden it yet but I know the position you have to sit in will hurt like hell. I'm glad they did put in accessible seating but I wish there were more of them.
Thanks, this is also great info if you want to prep kids before their first ride. No fit concerns but you do a great job explaining how it works so the kids know what is going to happen.
I feel like Disney should’ve redesigned the vehicles. The silver bar is my issue. They way it swings out makes it way harder for people with large legs to fit. They should’ve had it pop straight out then slide down when you pull down the bars. That way everyone’s legs could fit. I hope this made sense 😂
I've always thought that the Daft Punk in the black suit was the more attractive one. This is a super helpful video, I have family members close to your size who will be glad to know they can indeed ride this.
believe me. i did the one in shanghai and that feeling of being trapped goes away real quick once you are being whipped around at ridiculous speeds and it feels like the only thing holding you to the vehicle. You might find yourself wishing it was holding your legs even tighter! lol Because the back piece on top of you doesn't lock in place and you can pretty much sit up if you want to so it doesn't really feel like it's doing much of anything.
As someone with really thick legs, who has need trouble, I really think I'm probably going to have problem on this ride. Thank you for this video. I appreciate the details.
I just rode this ride yesterday. I'm 6'2.5 almost 300lbs and wide. I have thick bodybuilder calves. By following the posters guide of putting my shoes as far back as possible I was able to force the bar on top of my calves. First attempt didn't work so I did the above and moved my shoes as far back as I could. Once bar could roll over my calve it locked in no problem. It wasn't anywhere nearly as uncomfortable as I imagined. Much more comfortable than flight of passage. Thank you for the tips!
The lack of accessibility cars seems like a big oversight on Disney's part. So many people either aren't going to fit or might have join issues that prevent them from kneeling for that long. They should be on every train and have a better system for figuring out if you need one earlier in the queue. Also thank you for talking about the issue of fatphobia in roller coaster designs. It's an ongoing problem that doesn't get talked about enough.
Thank you SO MUCH for this review! Seriously would have never thought of this while vacationing, and the thought of being taken by surprise in a situation like this, making me feel all sorts of ways about the size and shape of my body... that can really ruin a day. This video helps so much
This happened to me at Universal, and it really does spoil your day. I hated it, it's HUMILIATING, and I'm someone who's learned to be accepting of myself.
@@hellsingmongrel I'm so sorry that happened to you! I'm glad you've learnt to be accepting of yourself. Its such a hard thing to learn with so much of society making us feel bad. Gotta stay strong and be there for each other
But in the Tron Legacy film there is a four wheel vehicle, so didn't Disney incorporate this vehicle at the middle and the back of life cycle bikes. It would a simple thing to get right and would probably increase capacity. They could have even made a whole train of them which would run every hour and incorporate change of light sequence as well so make it special event.
This is a great video, thanks for making it! I always appreciate when content is made to help us larger folks have a more "normalized" experience in the parks. That said, though, I feel like it's honestly baffling that Disney didn't take the size difference between the average Asian and the average American into account when making this ride... It should have been made at least slightly bigger than what it was in its original incarnation, IMO, and the fact that it wasn't really boggles (and kind of irritates) me. I don't know if it was laziness, cheapness, the fact that they thought it wouldn't concern or impact enough people to make a difference... but I feel like it was a misstep on their part, for sure.
Okay the AOL bit "you kids don't even know anything about that anymore," I teach a Disney club over on Outschool and today we were sharing our Disney pins. One of my students holds up Ellie's Grape Soda pin from Up and says "Miss Lauryn you'll know what movie this is from because it's OLD!" Between that and knowing about the AOL sound, I sure feel good about my age today! 🥴
As someone with fibromyalgia, seeing the seat set up made me cringe. Even tho short people can physically ride it, it looks like being in that position would give me so many muscle cramps I'd need to curl up in a ball in the exit zone for a bit until I could leave, and it might even ruin my whole day. (Although really I'd never ride it, due to an unrelated dislike of roller coasters. I'm just imagining a hypothetical person who'd actually want to do this ride with a similar condition to me). Which just empathizes how they really need more accessible seats. People like me, who otherwise wouldn't need to utilize accessibility services to do other rides (everywhere has enough leg room for my foldable cane, and I can walk short distances without it) need it for Tron. That's before you get into size considerations. You're right that this wasn't really designed with average American sizes in mind. It's like building a rollercoaster for Tokyo Disneyland with a high height requirement, not realizing how short Japanese people tend to be.
This ride looks so cool. I wish they would make one for Disneyland. As I have no idea when I'll get the treat of visiting Walt Disney World. Disneyland is expensive as it is. Tron is one of my favorite franchises. I loved Tron Legacy when it came out.
I wish they would make it for Disneyland, but they'd probably have to remake part of Tomorrowland in order to fit it (which would be a good thing, Tomorrowland needs an update)
Thank you so much for this! Idk what it is about Disney and the thigh thing - the only ride I could not fit on was Goofy’s Fly School at DCA because of this issue. The cast members thought it was my stomach…but it was definitely my tremendous thunder thighs😅 can’t suck those in! Lol You’re amazing, keep up the good work!
Thanks for the video! after hearing that we have similar thigh and calf measurements im a lot less anxious about being able to fit when i get back to disney world.
Thank you for making this!! Without this info I would probably never go try this ride lol (Especially with the test bikes being out front in the open 😬). But knowing I will fit before hand takes the pressure off, thanks Dan (& Kenny)!
I was so worried because my calves are 20” and I’m 6’2” I’ll cut to the chase, I was able to fit in the lightcycle and ride…twice It was very tight. I had to force the handles down, but I fit. The ride was short, but I felt my feet losing circulation by the end, so I was fine with it. The second time I rode I figured out a position that actually made the ride much more comfortable and, with it, more enjoyable. As soon a was l was locked in I force my legs down and I had no issues with my leg circulation. Tl;dr: Tight but fit 1st ride-I wouldn’t ride every time, but I would ride it every so often 2nd ride- I’m going to ride this every chance I get
hi friends! i was able to do my pre i last week! but i was very nervous because i’m petite. i was scared the vehicle would make me feel like i was going to slip out. I’m 5’2, and weigh about 130. my entire group was a very diverse group, my best friend is a “bigger” female and my boyfriend is quite skinny. but overall we all felt safe in the ride and has a great time
These rides are getting smaller, and I'm not. But I liked the seat behind the bikes. I am 5'10", 325 lbs And *EXTREMELY* hippy. I did not fit on the bike.
I am 22 and I have had arthritis in my knees since I was 16. Looking at the way to sit in this ride... the 1st clip showing the "silver bar of doom" locking the knee into that position... I shuddered. It isn't a huge problem as I am unlikely to be in a position to ride this ride... probably ever. But the idea that a rollercoaster, just sitting in it, looks so unpleasant... that makes me sad.
This is not relevant to the video but you got footage of my family on the ride that I was not expecting at all :P you actually made me do a double take
@@DistoryDan my uncle and cousin are front row at 7:47 :P I have a cousin who is a cast member but it was still shocking as I was not actively looking for them in this video
I am 6'4'' 275lb with 20'' calves and a 22'' heel to knee measurement. The metal bar did not clear my calf and got stuck and pinned my leg to the ride in the middle of my calf causing an extreme charlie horse feeling the entire ride. Hunching over a ride vehicle while sweating at 8:45pm and being rushed into the very intimate seat was just unpleasant. Then add on the lack of room for just XLT people in general is something that I don't experience at the Universal Orlando parks other than Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey and Dr. Doom Fear Fall which I haven't been able to ride since I was 15. The accessibility seat on Tron is a million times better and genuinely offers a more intense and comfortable ride as it feels more traditional with the smooth movement of the newer ride system.
i don't know when/if i'll ever be able to ride, but my thigh and calf measurements are just a bit larger than yours (28'' and 19'' respectively) so this is really helpful for me :) hopefully I'll be able to ride if I ever get the opportunity, since this coaster looks really cool! definitely would be using the leggings idea lmao
It's ok Dan, I don't have a perfect body either. I hope I'm not body shamed when I visit the Super Nintendo World section in Universal Studios Hollywood in the future because I heard that people were feeling body shamed by ride placement.
Sorry to jump on here but I wanted to share my experience! I'm 5'7" and have a 50" waist and 60" hips. I can't fit onto The Secret Life of Pets or Forbidden Journey at USH. All I cared about when I went to SNW was if I could ride the ride. And let me say I had zero issues. I believe when people are commenting on the sizes that can fit the ride, they're (unintentionally) talking about comfort vs getting that green go light. Because the seats are moulded, and getting out of the vehicle was like releasing one hell of a Tupperware seal, but the lap bar had no issue. This was true for both the tester seat and the ride vehicle. Your hips and butt might feel too big, but it's easy discomfort to ignore while you're throwing shells! And in my experience, I've had staff make me feel uncomfortable at Minions Mayhem and The Mummy, but the staff at Mario Kart were, if anything, sharing my joy at fitting (as I proudly walked through the queue after the test seat telling them I CAN RIDE!!!)
There’s accessible seating on one of the coaster trains which is a lightcycle, but as a bucket seat. It’s normally for handicapped or disabled riders, but if the lightcycle vehicle is uncomfortable for you, there’s an alternative waiting at the back of the train!
Well you’re a brave soul to do this so thank you Dan😊 cuz for a brief second I thought you meant the Tron run game 😅 I avoid rollercoasters because I’m afraid of heights 😶if I did try it, I’d have trouble getting OFF😅
This ride was scaled for average shanghai guests, they should have made it super sized for us americans, no joke. The avaerage us guest's got thicker legs and are taller by several inches on average. Chapek fail, but a slight redesign of the ride vehicle could easily fix.
I wish I had seen this two days ago! I was anxious about how the heck these function safely, though I have been to DW for a decade. My heart rate was through the roof and the cast member was kind but gave no clear instructions but "Can you move your leg?" Seeing this, I think I didn't lock because I was terrified, so I was tense, and I did not understand what I should do with my leg and I did end up with bruising on both legs. Next time I think it would work. The alternate route worked for my nerves, but my friends were scared because they saw me get off but had no idea I was only being transferred to the standard seat next door. We all went at the same time, but as soon I was off the track they shot off. I loved the standard seat, but there needs to be clearer communication and less rush. The good news is we did it an hour before park closing so I went right on. It was a bit embarrassing, but honestly, if you don't want to fool with all this the standard seat was still epic and I didn't feel like I missed anything except being with my friends. Thank you for this wealth of information. They should pay you to make a safety video for cast members and guests alike!
Next time I’ll have to try the tiptoe approach. My legs were too long to lift my feet off the ground once I had gotten on it like a regular bike and was relegated to the accessibility vehicle (I’m 6’3” with similarly sized legs). It was still fun but kind of embarrassing
I have no plans to ride it cause I don’t ride roller coasters in general and the car kinda scares me, but I’m glad that I could probably still ride it as a fairly chubby person that’s like around 6 ft who’s pretty self conscious about themself
That ride looks simultaneously amazing and horribly uncomfortable. Imagine getting a Charlie horse mid ride yikes! Thank you for this video, I’m pretty plump so I was worried about fitting and I dreaded trying the seats in front of everyone. 😅
It honestly doesn't matter how big your calves are. It's about your entire body dimensions. The bigger you are, the harder it will be to lean into the seat with your legs in the correct position. Generally speaking if you have no issues on Flight of Passage you should be fine on Tron. Also, if you don't have issues riding thrill rides at other parks (Seaworld, Six Flags, Cedar Fair) you will be fine on Tron as well.
I’m teenie weenie, 5’ and skinny-legged, but my mama’s on the heavier side, and I’m a little disappointed that there’s a ride she might not be able to go on with me. Still, I can’t deny that the ride does look really cool. Great video Dan! Thanks for being brave and sharing with us! 💛
Thank you for this video that is addressing what for many is a major concern about this attraction. My concerns are slightly different. I’m an average height and a little fluffy but when I was riding motorcycles, I was never as comfortable on a “crotch rocket” style frame then on a cruiser due to the compression of some specific parts of the male anatomy. It was just too painful. Without being unnecessarily specific, is there a way of discreetly broaching this topic?
They've already added a 3rd accessible vehicle since you've been to Tron. I think that bodes well for keeping the wait down for that specific seat.
I really hope they redesign all the ride vehicles. It's really ridiculous that they did not even think about the potential differences between primarily Chinese park-goers and a more international (though chiefly American) crowd.
@@CaelanAegana redesign ? You are delusional 😂
@FD&BJ right, that's my point. This version of the ride is in America.
As someone who isn't even that overweight, the silver bar of doom still worries me. All of my weight has pretty much gone to my thighs 😅
I know I’d fit but I just feel like the bar would be uncomfortable and pinchy because there’s no padding on it
My favorite part was the critique of tester placement. How many walked away because they didn’t want to wait in line to try or try in front of people streaming in. A little empathy goes a long way.
Also the Kenny CGI was seamless.
Agreed! I feel like other parks have a little more discretion in this regard. What would it hurt to put the test vehicle in a little secluded cove area?
I’m an average height/average weight 19 y/o girl but I think this is really great!
I also agree that flight of passage’s ride vehicle was very restrictive. I felt every tiny movement I made and it poked me all over. Not to mention I had to wear the goggles over my glasses so they didn’t even really work and it made my tummy hurt 😕
Thanks for making this video and thanks for not stigmatizing your body at all. So many people feel the need to be ashamed when talking about things like measurements and fits, so it's always refreshing when someone doesn't. Do you know if the back support has a limit the way the knee bar does? I'm worried that since they're all connected, my waist/hips would prevent the knee bars from fully engaging.
The back support has a lot of movement. I could easily sit up in the seat when riding
@@DistoryDan great, thank you so much!!
Thank you SO MUCH for this overview. My giant calves of doom may conflict with the silver stick of doom and force me into the accessible seats, but it still seems worth trying. I can take anything for 90 seconds. They definitely should have done a little more market research on the seats. It's almost like they haven't looked at Americans before 😅
My calves measure at about 19-21 depending where I measure... my sister pushed it shut on me 😂 let me yell you it HURT but once the ride started I didn't feel it. 100% worth it. Absolutely amazing experience
You could always start going to the gym.
@@SirBlackReeds no duh. But I lost over 100 pounds and my calves didn't change all too much. Too many leg presses?
This is a video just about Dan's beautifully sculpted body.
I have to say that this video not only helps with weight, but also autism and associated disabilities, as it describes eacxly how the restraints work which is useful as i would have become upset about the sliver bar of doom, but now i know that it’s coming and i can prepare for that. Thank you so much Dan
I’m a husky male and this is what helped me: (possibly NSFW metaphor ahead) get your hips up forward on the bike like it’s a lover in a maneuver with a canine name. Then curve your upper body up around the body of the bike. Sounds weird, but that’s what worked for me. Just make sure your hips are square and as far forward as possible.
I’d definitely second the leggings thing. I rode it one day with tights and another day with just shorts. It can be difficult to maneuver yourself with your skin sticking and pulling against the plastic of the seats. Also riding without tights caused me to get some minor bruising on the inside of my knees and thighs that I still have four days later (doesn’t hurt, just visual).
And the silver daft punk member is the cutest
Thanks so much for making this video to help us all out- although, even if I do fit I’m still not sure my arthritis and old dance injury wouldn’t make that bike utterly inaccessible to me. Truly, it’s wild how little forethought seemed to go into this on Disney’s end.
Here here. I am wracked by anxiety about fitting on rides. I'm 5'10 300lbs (big gut, big shoulders) and it really sucks waiting in an hour long queue at Universal to not be allowed on a ride because my shoulders were too wide. I really don't want to see Disney heading down that path.
I’m a size 18/20 but I carry a lot of my weight in my thighs and calves. My husband is a bigger guy, larger around his middle than I am and about a 2X in T-shirts. His calves and thighs are not as big as mine. We went on Tron today and I was a no go for the bike. The back wouldn’t even come up and engage because the bar stopped on my calf. I couldn’t even comfortably move up enough to try to get it to engage (thunder thighs). Luckily, we were on the very last seat in front of the accessible car. The cast member simply allowed me to get off the bike and sit down in the accessible seat. That seat was comfortable and I had no difficulty with the bar. It was still a bit upsetting and humiliating. I’ve never had to take a “walk of shame” at Disney. As a side note, I fit on Avatar FoP just fine, so Tron is a totally different beast.
❗️❗️STATS: 5’5 220lbs size 16/18
calf 16in / mid thigh 24in ❗️❗️
I was able to ride March 4th and was so very nervous in line Bc of what everyone was sharing but I fit no problem and it felt like there was plenty of room to spare.
I completely agree with the pants/legging suggestion my sister and I actually said that as we were getting into the ride 😂😂 and I did notice they added markings to the test seat to show how far the handles needed to come down.
Thank you for sharing this! Yours is the closest I've found to my size and measurements and it's very reassuring to me.
Thank you! I have almost the exact same leg measurements as you so im hoping I'll fit (half an inch bigger mid thigh)
I didn't know that this was a ride. It does sound interesting but I feel that there should be accessible seats on most (at least 5 out of the 7) if not all of the trains/rides. It's good that you're pointing these out for those able to go to Disney World. (I live in the UK, so going back to Disneyland Paris one day or one of the other Disney parks would be great. I live vicariously through your videos.)
It's nice to see someone actually provide useful information in a positive way instead of just jumping on the clickbait hate bandwagon I see going on about the ride.
"this is not something i've ever had to deal with at the disney parks before. it's something i exclusively deal with at universal, and it's the reason i don't go there to vacation." - this, 100%. like i'm pretty sure i have said this exact thing before. my husband is 6'4" and not lanky, i'm 5'9" 250lbs, and it aggravates me that we have to deal with this at WDW now!!! thanks for the great video so we're at least prepared.
Maybe go on a diet? Don’t let your fat stop you from enjoying theme parks mama
@@texaspoontappa9653 maybe don't be a jerk and suggest folks should lose weight on a video explicitly talking about size inclusivity.
@@trickycrayon put that frustration towards losing weight. It's no one else's fault
@@vaugustine1594 maybe don't reply to people on a video like this who might have recovered from an ED encouraging them to relapse! 💕✨
I'm kind of surprised that the accessibility on this ride is so bad in 2023.
Thanks for your confidence in sharing your story! The bar of death will now be staying rent free in my head for a while.
This is so amazing of you!! I was so nervous, I also didn’t think I was going to fit. At universal or Busch gardens, my hips prevent me from sitting in most seats.
I’m 5’9, around 300lbs and carry most of my weight in my stomach, hips and butt. 19inch calves and 29inch thighs.
The safety bar of doom was definitely pinching me LMAO. I feel like I barely fit but I didn’t need an extra push, so maybe there’s more room than it felt like!
Very scary to share this because when people were first voicing their concerns about the size of this ride, I saw so much fatphobic backlash 😢
Your measurements seem about what mine are, so thank you for your post. I had the humiliating experience of being told I couldn't ride rides at Universal, and the thought of being put through that at Disney is HORRIBLE. Hopefully I'll be able to fit this ride when I get to go.
It’s the thighs I’m worried about for myself next week. I’ve never been able to ride Flight of Passage because I can’t get far enough forward in the link chair because of my large thighs. Time to break out the measuring tape.
@Doc2W I had a feeling my thighs were preventing me from getting into optimal position. My calves are somewhere between 19 and 21...my sister gave the push and whew did it pinch. Had bruising but was so glad to have the experience! Hoping when I go back in July I've lost enough weight to not hurt 😂
thank you
This was so helpful! Thank you for your vulnerability!🤍I’m going mid august and worried about fitting onto Tron and FOP. Going to try to get my walk on consistently leading up to the trip and maybe that’ll help😅
THIS is the only fit check I was looking for! My husband is about your build, with really meaty calves and thighs, so this is his main concern. Thanks for the measurements, the tips to fitting better. All of it.
Gotta say Dan, you did pretty excellent that time. You know TRON is one of my favorite Disney franchises, besides Toy Story, Disney Princess, Winnie The Pooh, and of course, Mickey and Friends, considering that I'm a fan of video games and technology in general. I especially LOVE the vehicles and everything that the grid looked like inside.
As a ride operator (not for Tron and not even for Disney) as well as a big guy, it's stupid that Vekoma wouldn't have some kind of indicator system on the test seat. Where I work, and where I have worked, there have been indicator lights, pieces of tape, minimal locking ratchets, seat belts... I mean, you name it I've seen it. It almost renders the test seat useless. I've had to use my own best judgment when it comes to certain test seats when I let a guest ride, and sometimes I would see them exit early because they didn't fit once they got to the station. I felt bad, but all that blame falls on the manufacturer. They need to give the parks better equipment when they know they need it. My favorite ride to work at was Full Throttle at Magic Mountain, because the indicator lights as well as the tape on the lap bar made it really easy to know that this guest fit. There wasn't a test seat, but the light was my best friend. Premier isn't off the hook though, because when their seats DON'T have indicator lights, that's a problem and from there, it's a best judgment situation. Hopefully the system at Tron gets better because I've been on both sides and it sucks as a ride op to have to tell a guest they can't ride after trying so long (usually because they get mad and blame you for it) and it sucks when I'm the guest in that situation, because now I don't get to experience this thing with my friends.
thank you so much for this, and for keeping it positive while also being really informative & honest. i feel a lot less anxious about fitting on the ride now!
So I have been on the ride and here's my full story....
I am about 230 pounds. 5'2"...(which I would not consider that big?) but my calf size is pretty large. While I fit perfectly into flight of passage with no problems, I did have a lot of problems with Tron. When I walked up to the test seat I didn't fit on the ride. Pretty heartbreaking actually. BUT I was close, so close that a cast member actually told me that I should try on the actual ride. Now getting on the ride, I still had a bit of trouble and was barely not fitting. However...to my biggest the surprise the cast member did actually work with me to push down the back which ended up locking me into the ride (pretty tightly on my leg). I don't really think they were supposed to do that but I was grateful. The ride was supper fun but it did leave me with a pretty nasty bruise from the cut of circulation. Probably won't ride again until some kind of adjustment is made (hopefully)
The problem really comes down to height/calf size. Being short it was a bit harder to get my knee all the way into the front part which make the metal bar basically hit my largest part of my calf. What's even more strange was despite not being able to feel my leg, I felt no restriction or discomfort at all anywhere else. Also I'd recommend riding earlier in the day/your trip when you legs are not as swollen from all the walking/standing you may have been doing previous. Leggings also sounds like a smart idea and I would probably try that if I ride again. Thanks for listening.
Thank you for this! I’m about your size and now I have hope I may fit!
Can you let me know your calf and thigh size?
Dude, all the love possible for doing a full video on this topic. Thank you.
Glad that you were able to ride to get this informative insight out in a positive way.
For any of my fellow short, heavy ladies…I have the exact same calf and thigh measurements as Dan but I’m 4’11” and it was absolutely not happening for me. I’m so short that there was no way to maneuver myself to reach the handlebars and keep my legs out long enough.
I had to wait for the regular cart which I was not expecting to have to do. It was still fun from the back. I tried the bike many times after riding, not the best experience as everyone is watching and trying to take pictures.
I’m going to try the tester seat again in winter to see if the leggings trick will help.
For reference, I have no issues with Flight of Passage or any Universal rides. So I guess it’s just that Safety Bar of Doom
I"m fat and disabled and as soon as I heard about the ride vehicles it scared me. leaning forward like that i knew would put my back in agony. I had a similar problem with flight of passage, I havent ridden it yet but I know the position you have to sit in will hurt like hell. I'm glad they did put in accessible seating but I wish there were more of them.
Thanks, this is also great info if you want to prep kids before their first ride. No fit concerns but you do a great job explaining how it works so the kids know what is going to happen.
Thank You, Dan. We bigger people need stuff like this when we’re planning vacations! You’re the best and we love you!!
I feel like Disney should’ve redesigned the vehicles. The silver bar is my issue. They way it swings out makes it way harder for people with large legs to fit. They should’ve had it pop straight out then slide down when you pull down the bars. That way everyone’s legs could fit. I hope this made sense 😂
I've always thought that the Daft Punk in the black suit was the more attractive one.
This is a super helpful video, I have family members close to your size who will be glad to know they can indeed ride this.
I would ABSOLUTELY be claustrophobic about having my legs locked into that safety bar, yes. I would start freaking the HELL out.
believe me. i did the one in shanghai and that feeling of being trapped goes away real quick once you are being whipped around at ridiculous speeds and it feels like the only thing holding you to the vehicle. You might find yourself wishing it was holding your legs even tighter! lol Because the back piece on top of you doesn't lock in place and you can pretty much sit up if you want to so it doesn't really feel like it's doing much of anything.
As someone with really thick legs, who has need trouble, I really think I'm probably going to have problem on this ride.
Thank you for this video. I appreciate the details.
0:50 this is truly brave, I think it's awesome that you did this video with your mesurement. 👏
Thank you so much for doing this Dan, I know it will mean a lot to so many people 💕
You're my favorite viking sized disney youtuber
I just rode this ride yesterday. I'm 6'2.5 almost 300lbs and wide. I have thick bodybuilder calves. By following the posters guide of putting my shoes as far back as possible I was able to force the bar on top of my calves. First attempt didn't work so I did the above and moved my shoes as far back as I could. Once bar could roll over my calve it locked in no problem. It wasn't anywhere nearly as uncomfortable as I imagined. Much more comfortable than flight of passage. Thank you for the tips!
The lack of accessibility cars seems like a big oversight on Disney's part. So many people either aren't going to fit or might have join issues that prevent them from kneeling for that long. They should be on every train and have a better system for figuring out if you need one earlier in the queue. Also thank you for talking about the issue of fatphobia in roller coaster designs. It's an ongoing problem that doesn't get talked about enough.
hey Dan, thank you so much for this video. I know going on the Lightcycle ride is a MUST in my household, but we're definitely more plush people.
Thank you SO MUCH for this review! Seriously would have never thought of this while vacationing, and the thought of being taken by surprise in a situation like this, making me feel all sorts of ways about the size and shape of my body... that can really ruin a day. This video helps so much
This happened to me at Universal, and it really does spoil your day. I hated it, it's HUMILIATING, and I'm someone who's learned to be accepting of myself.
@@hellsingmongrel I'm so sorry that happened to you!
I'm glad you've learnt to be accepting of yourself. Its such a hard thing to learn with so much of society making us feel bad. Gotta stay strong and be there for each other
This is one of the few roller coasters that I actually WANT to go on. Good thing that I'm a toothpick!
If you fit on flight of passage, you will absolutely fit on tron
Yay another video!!
thank you for making this video!! love this topic!
I always loved your content bro. Keep up being entertaining on RUclips like you always are ;)
Thank you for posting this!!
But in the Tron Legacy film there is a four wheel vehicle, so didn't Disney incorporate this vehicle at the middle and the back of life cycle bikes. It would a simple thing to get right and would probably increase capacity. They could have even made a whole train of them which would run every hour and incorporate change of light sequence as well so make it special event.
I have no idea
This is a great video, thanks for making it! I always appreciate when content is made to help us larger folks have a more "normalized" experience in the parks.
That said, though, I feel like it's honestly baffling that Disney didn't take the size difference between the average Asian and the average American into account when making this ride... It should have been made at least slightly bigger than what it was in its original incarnation, IMO, and the fact that it wasn't really boggles (and kind of irritates) me. I don't know if it was laziness, cheapness, the fact that they thought it wouldn't concern or impact enough people to make a difference... but I feel like it was a misstep on their part, for sure.
No, what's baffling is that people think they're owed rides that cater to their obesity instead of just losing weight and being great.
Ok as someone whos never been to universal i appreciate the callout cuz now i know i won't fit in their rides LOL
Okay the AOL bit "you kids don't even know anything about that anymore," I teach a Disney club over on Outschool and today we were sharing our Disney pins. One of my students holds up Ellie's Grape Soda pin from Up and says "Miss Lauryn you'll know what movie this is from because it's OLD!" Between that and knowing about the AOL sound, I sure feel good about my age today! 🥴
Alternate title: "Will the Bar of Doom bar your entry into The Grid?"
As someone with fibromyalgia, seeing the seat set up made me cringe. Even tho short people can physically ride it, it looks like being in that position would give me so many muscle cramps I'd need to curl up in a ball in the exit zone for a bit until I could leave, and it might even ruin my whole day. (Although really I'd never ride it, due to an unrelated dislike of roller coasters. I'm just imagining a hypothetical person who'd actually want to do this ride with a similar condition to me).
Which just empathizes how they really need more accessible seats. People like me, who otherwise wouldn't need to utilize accessibility services to do other rides (everywhere has enough leg room for my foldable cane, and I can walk short distances without it) need it for Tron. That's before you get into size considerations. You're right that this wasn't really designed with average American sizes in mind. It's like building a rollercoaster for Tokyo Disneyland with a high height requirement, not realizing how short Japanese people tend to be.
This ride looks so cool. I wish they would make one for Disneyland. As I have no idea when I'll get the treat of visiting Walt Disney World. Disneyland is expensive as it is. Tron is one of my favorite franchises. I loved Tron Legacy when it came out.
I wish they would make it for Disneyland, but they'd probably have to remake part of Tomorrowland in order to fit it (which would be a good thing, Tomorrowland needs an update)
@@rattyeely just remove the circle theater. It doesn't need to be there.
Dang! Detailed. Thanks for covering this!
Thank you so much for this! Idk what it is about Disney and the thigh thing - the only ride I could not fit on was Goofy’s Fly School at DCA because of this issue. The cast members thought it was my stomach…but it was definitely my tremendous thunder thighs😅 can’t suck those in! Lol
You’re amazing, keep up the good work!
Great Video Dan!
Oh Dan, I may be 24 but I know that dail up sound 😂
Always appreciate your enthusiasm 😊
Thanks for the video! after hearing that we have similar thigh and calf measurements im a lot less anxious about being able to fit when i get back to disney world.
Thank you for making this!! Without this info I would probably never go try this ride lol (Especially with the test bikes being out front in the open 😬). But knowing I will fit before hand takes the pressure off, thanks Dan (& Kenny)!
I was so worried because my calves are 20” and I’m 6’2”
I’ll cut to the chase, I was able to fit in the lightcycle and ride…twice
It was very tight. I had to force the handles down, but I fit. The ride was short, but I felt my feet losing circulation by the end, so I was fine with it.
The second time I rode I figured out a position that actually made the ride much more comfortable and, with it, more enjoyable. As soon a was l was locked in I force my legs down and I had no issues with my leg circulation.
Tl;dr:
Tight but fit
1st ride-I wouldn’t ride every time, but I would ride it every so often
2nd ride- I’m going to ride this every chance I get
Really appreciate this video!
hi friends! i was able to do my pre i last week! but i was very nervous because i’m petite. i was scared the vehicle would make me feel like i was going to slip out. I’m 5’2, and weigh about 130. my entire group was a very diverse group, my best friend is a “bigger” female and my boyfriend is quite skinny. but overall we all felt safe in the ride and has a great time
These rides are getting smaller, and I'm not. But I liked the seat behind the bikes.
I am 5'10", 325 lbs And *EXTREMELY* hippy. I did not fit on the bike.
Calf @ 21"
Fyi locker 626 is also quite popular...
I am 22 and I have had arthritis in my knees since I was 16. Looking at the way to sit in this ride... the 1st clip showing the "silver bar of doom" locking the knee into that position... I shuddered.
It isn't a huge problem as I am unlikely to be in a position to ride this ride... probably ever. But the idea that a rollercoaster, just sitting in it, looks so unpleasant... that makes me sad.
thank you so much for this!!
Great video & the Ken input
This is not relevant to the video but you got footage of my family on the ride that I was not expecting at all :P you actually made me do a double take
OMG WHAT??? Which part? Amazing!!
@@DistoryDan my uncle and cousin are front row at 7:47 :P I have a cousin who is a cast member but it was still shocking as I was not actively looking for them in this video
I am 6'4'' 275lb with 20'' calves and a 22'' heel to knee measurement. The metal bar did not clear my calf and got stuck and pinned my leg to the ride in the middle of my calf causing an extreme charlie horse feeling the entire ride. Hunching over a ride vehicle while sweating at 8:45pm and being rushed into the very intimate seat was just unpleasant. Then add on the lack of room for just XLT people in general is something that I don't experience at the Universal Orlando parks other than Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey and Dr. Doom Fear Fall which I haven't been able to ride since I was 15. The accessibility seat on Tron is a million times better and genuinely offers a more intense and comfortable ride as it feels more traditional with the smooth movement of the newer ride system.
I didn’t even know that was a Disney ride!
Back in the early days, Guy Manuel was pretty cute.... but seriously, thanks for this, Dan!
i Really hope the exclusive passholders thing for tron is still avialable if not cant wait to ride this when its out for the public
i don't know when/if i'll ever be able to ride, but my thigh and calf measurements are just a bit larger than yours (28'' and 19'' respectively) so this is really helpful for me :) hopefully I'll be able to ride if I ever get the opportunity, since this coaster looks really cool! definitely would be using the leggings idea lmao
5:36 😂😂😂😂 that photo Kenny wearing tights for editing photo.
I have avoided tron for two trips. Now I plan to ride the accessible car in June 2024
It's ok Dan, I don't have a perfect body either. I hope I'm not body shamed when I visit the Super Nintendo World section in Universal Studios Hollywood in the future because I heard that people were feeling body shamed by ride placement.
Sorry to jump on here but I wanted to share my experience! I'm 5'7" and have a 50" waist and 60" hips. I can't fit onto The Secret Life of Pets or Forbidden Journey at USH. All I cared about when I went to SNW was if I could ride the ride. And let me say I had zero issues. I believe when people are commenting on the sizes that can fit the ride, they're (unintentionally) talking about comfort vs getting that green go light. Because the seats are moulded, and getting out of the vehicle was like releasing one hell of a Tupperware seal, but the lap bar had no issue. This was true for both the tester seat and the ride vehicle. Your hips and butt might feel too big, but it's easy discomfort to ignore while you're throwing shells! And in my experience, I've had staff make me feel uncomfortable at Minions Mayhem and The Mummy, but the staff at Mario Kart were, if anything, sharing my joy at fitting (as I proudly walked through the queue after the test seat telling them I CAN RIDE!!!)
man now that magic kingdom has a tron ride, i cant wait to return to magic kingdom
There's a good chance I'll never need this info but it's so interesting nonetheless. Another fantastic video
There’s accessible seating on one of the coaster trains which is a lightcycle, but as a bucket seat. It’s normally for handicapped or disabled riders, but if the lightcycle vehicle is uncomfortable for you, there’s an alternative waiting at the back of the train!
Well you’re a brave soul to do this so thank you Dan😊 cuz for a brief second I thought you meant the Tron run game 😅
I avoid rollercoasters because I’m afraid of heights 😶if I did try it, I’d have trouble getting OFF😅
It’s …hard to explain but if I kneel too long I have difficulty getting up unless I have help 😅
This ride was scaled for average shanghai guests, they should have made it super sized for us americans, no joke. The avaerage us guest's got thicker legs and are taller by several inches on average. Chapek fail, but a slight redesign of the ride vehicle could easily fix.
Great video and comments on Universal. That is why I don't go there either.
I wish I had seen this two days ago! I was anxious about how the heck these function safely, though I have been to DW for a decade. My heart rate was through the roof and the cast member was kind but gave no clear instructions but "Can you move your leg?" Seeing this, I think I didn't lock because I was terrified, so I was tense, and I did not understand what I should do with my leg and I did end up with bruising on both legs. Next time I think it would work. The alternate route worked for my nerves, but my friends were scared because they saw me get off but had no idea I was only being transferred to the standard seat next door. We all went at the same time, but as soon I was off the track they shot off. I loved the standard seat, but there needs to be clearer communication and less rush. The good news is we did it an hour before park closing so I went right on. It was a bit embarrassing, but honestly, if you don't want to fool with all this the standard seat was still epic and I didn't feel like I missed anything except being with my friends. Thank you for this wealth of information. They should pay you to make a safety video for cast members and guests alike!
Next time I’ll have to try the tiptoe approach. My legs were too long to lift my feet off the ground once I had gotten on it like a regular bike and was relegated to the accessibility vehicle (I’m 6’3” with similarly sized legs). It was still fun but kind of embarrassing
I have no plans to ride it cause I don’t ride roller coasters in general and the car kinda scares me, but I’m glad that I could probably still ride it as a fairly chubby person that’s like around 6 ft who’s pretty self conscious about themself
OK I think can fit im 4’11”
My Calf is 18” too but My thighs are 25” so hopefully the next time I go with my family 🤞😁🤞 wish me luck
I get leg cramps very easily. What if the silver bar triggers one and I have no choice but to spend the entire ride in agonizing pain?
Informative
I'm just scared that my legs gonna cramp while locked in
I’m 5’9” and weigh 248lbs with thick thighs and calves. I want to ride this attraction when I go next year.
That ride looks simultaneously amazing and horribly uncomfortable. Imagine getting a Charlie horse mid ride yikes! Thank you for this video, I’m pretty plump so I was worried about fitting and I dreaded trying the seats in front of everyone. 😅
Do not let go from pulling metal bar back until the cart is moving I have been on torn
They should add this ride in California
It honestly doesn't matter how big your calves are. It's about your entire body dimensions. The bigger you are, the harder it will be to lean into the seat with your legs in the correct position. Generally speaking if you have no issues on Flight of Passage you should be fine on Tron. Also, if you don't have issues riding thrill rides at other parks (Seaworld, Six Flags, Cedar Fair) you will be fine on Tron as well.
I’m teenie weenie, 5’ and skinny-legged, but my mama’s on the heavier side, and I’m a little disappointed that there’s a ride she might not be able to go on with me. Still, I can’t deny that the ride does look really cool. Great video Dan! Thanks for being brave and sharing with us! 💛
If your mom rides in the accessibility seat it’s likely they’d put you in the row ahead of her if you still wanted to go bike style
If you have a bad hip or back, do not ride the regular bike seat. Ask for handicap seating. This coming from someone that has that issue.
Thanks for sharing! How is the ride experience compared to other Disney coasters?
I would say it was a good experience but it was slightly uncomfortable on the neck I am quite short at 5,5 but it was a good time
Thank you for this video that is addressing what for many is a major concern about this attraction. My concerns are slightly different. I’m an average height and a little fluffy but when I was riding motorcycles, I was never as comfortable on a “crotch rocket” style frame then on a cruiser due to the compression of some specific parts of the male anatomy. It was just too painful. Without being unnecessarily specific, is there a way of discreetly broaching this topic?