I used the ogre bolt launcher in my game, a ogre runt stole a ballista from a castle cause he thought it was cool. The party found him in the wilderness and since they were the first people to ever treat him nice he thought they were his friends, so he helped protect them through the wilderness... Honestly, i was expecting a quick fight and be done with it as a random encounter i rolled before the session, but they loved him, and took him in as one of their own... poor ogre never stood a chance against the aberrations they would find on their journey. Though he did manage the killing blow on a dragon before then... so at least he had a bit of glory.
1:57 I would disagree, Trolls and Ogres can get along just fine. My first Roommate and I did. I called him an Ogre, he called me a Troll. Living in a basement apartment just confirmed the optics, we were a brutish pair of friends living in our own filth for 3 years.
DMed a session last weekend, where train robbers had ogres that wielded small cannons. Pretty lethal, but the ogre needed a bandit to load their cannons, since they are dummies. They are pretty straight forward monsters, but I think it isn't that hard to spice them up somewhat.
True the majority of "human" believe they "evolved" by accident, when in reality they are devolving demigods being drained of energy by vampiric spirits of the fallen. And chimps are instinctual, more then intelligent, ergo the 100 monkey experiment.
"They sometimes breed with humans, or should i say humans will breed with just about everything" Those kinky humans. The mount everything they can find. XD
Surprised their aren't half Dwarfs yet. Yet a half Dwarf would be similar in height to a human and stocky, roughly 5'4"-5'8". Yet I'm surprised humans haven't experimented with creating subraces through science and magic experiments. Yet these exriments could produce mutants, Juggarnauts(giantkin originating from humans who drank too many growth potions), tricylopses, Hogrocs(human, orc, and ogre crossbreeds), and etc.
@@zacharygadzinski3147 You should check out the Heroes of Might and Magic lore. There the human Wizards created most of the monstrous races. Like the beast folks, orcs (Who are crossbreed between humans and demons in their lore) undead and many other. All were created to be slaves and then later expelled because they couldn't control them. And the dark elves gladly took them over to be their slaves. XD
Lame people: Ogres are just simple slightly smaller hill Giants. There is nothing going on with them lore wise. Loremaster Aj Puckett: *Makes a 26 minute video about them detailing everything he could*
You come around the tree to investigate the guttural moans and high pitched screams "GET THE BAD STUFF OUT! you hear splitting the night sky..... to an ogre having a violent and pitched.... yet losing battle with diarrhea. Roll initiative.
Guard: How did you big dumb brutes escape from your cells, the metal on those bars are indestructible to all but magic. Ogre: Well, you see, metal no birack because as you said, it magic, so we smashed stone walls instead because stones not magic. Mastermind Rouge: Hummm, a very clever plan for a person who can't count to twenty without taking off his shoes.
Your channel has helped me more then I could ever say in a comment. This is my number 1 D&D RUclips channel. I've been creating a huge sprawling campaign and your help has been essential. Keep up the amazing work and thanks.
@@avatarion that's a scary thought 😂 but considering all the furry/Scalely and other weird fetishist that exist I'd say it's a bit of both, Y'know you'd clap them Yuan-Ti cheeks....you saying you wouldn't pipe down a fine Ork woman bruh lies
A kraken mind-controlling an entire clan of ogres too rapidly breed with themselves and humans, so the kraken could have a really big army, pretty fast
I feel like with all of the comments I leave I don’t say this enough but thank you for making awesome videos that are both informative and entertaining, as well as taking the time to actually respond to fan questions and random jokes. Keep up the great work AJ. 👍
Fun fact: ogre turns up in folklore, both British and French, meaning something like “man-eater” and they don’t necessarily have to be particularly large, though they often are. The ogre mage, contrary to internet wisdom wasn’t originally based on the oni, instead being based on the Blue Ogre from Lang’s Fairy Books (I forget which colour), who had all of the listed powers from the star block. Some tended towards something akin to wendigo, with humans becoming one after eating enough human meat.
I feel like a human or similar sized creature should do more damage than a medium sized rock when thrown. 1d4+4 is not enough damage for having a 100-250 lb meat puppet that is potentially wearing metal armor and weighed down by adventuring gear and loot from adventuring thrown at you from at least 10 feet in the air. A Gnome with a Strength of 18 can do the same damage with a club. This is where I feel the PHB falls a little short on covering this type of stuff, especially since it happens surprisingly often whenever Large Humanoids are involved. I should not be able to do the same damage to an Ogre by swinging a table leg as it does to me by swinging a Half-Orc.
Yeah: Size dynamics in 5e are very off. I port over Pathfinders. Enlarge/Reduce is one of my favourite spells but it's underpowered for what you oughta be able to accomplish. I'd be happy with it being 3rd or 4th level if it gave better stat buffs when cast
AJ Pickett Of course, once you agree to let someone DM you agree to play by their rules, but that has never stopped anyone from trying to pull a Pat Rothfuss at the table. “But what if I land on the softer rocks?” Lol I just typically go with a higher damage die when I DM. Normally 2D8+Str for a full sized humanoid, 2D4+Str for a smaller humanoid, and 2D10+Str If you get something like a Minotaur or Loxodon thrown at you. I just think the weight of the projectile should be taken into account when calculating damage. But I’m not gunna argue with a DM if my Kobold rogue gets hit with a Bugbear from 20 feet away and they say I only take 7 damage.
Great video Kiwi,Ogres are an excellent low level high strength baddie to use for just about ANY occassion. I personally like using them in my bad guys campaign as training tools for my newest PCs to work with!
I have a soft spot for ogres. They sit in a really interesting place where they could be a pretty much mindless monster, that no guilt over killing such a horrid beast. But under the right circumstances could act as an NPC, where the stupidity is not their fault and could have reasonable grievances over being badly treated. Possibly a bodyguard pet with a careful balance of not insulting, but also not getting it cocky. I especially like Oni. Just recently did some homebrew creation of a player race half-oni, I called it an Oni-Kin. Kind of funny timing. Gave me some ideas to create other Japanese myths inspired races, currently putting together a tengu as maybe related to Kenku.
@@adamwelch4336 You can search "Oni-Kin" in DnDHomebrew on Reddit, if you want to check it out. I also added an Oni sorcerous origin I called Ogre Mage, to add some of the other abilities in, for an Alter Self focused sorcerer. I was also wanting to do a homebrew ninja subclass to go with Oni, but now I am thinking that I might try multiple kinds of ninja subclasses after I do a tengu, and I am thinking maybe a small sized kitsune/fox race that I am leaning towards calling "Fenitsune". That way I could do a small, medium and powerful build medium for ideas.
Verbeeg & Ogres seem way to light especially because they are also bulky creatures. verbeeg= 274cm & 204kg Ogres = 310cm & 268kg When a massive human like Hafþór Björnsson is 206cm & 205kg.
Man the weights of d&d monsters are so off, I don’t mean to call out d&d, but the way ogres are built, along with being around 10 feet tall? They should be around a ton, but their official weights is like a quarter of that
I like to use a body mass index (BMI) calculator app. Unlike the physical charts, a lot of apps don't have an upper or lower height limit, making them useful for gnomes, giants, etc. Just decide whether your character is underweight, average, obese, etc, and pick a weight that corresponds to their height. It's still not perfect (for example, larger creatures would probably have larger/denser bones to support their bulk), but much better that the linear scale that D&D seems to use.
It's all Ogre now. I think Ogres aren't ever horrifying enough. They should be both shock horror and capable and willing to do the worst things imaginable. I've made my own Ogre lore in which people tend to avoid hunting them despite the reward due to what could happen if they fail in killing the thing.
These fantasy monster weights are way, way too low! Not the first time I've thought this, but Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson (The Mountain) is 6 foot 8 inches and 386 pounds. (206cm and 175kg)
I imagine a gnome annoying the shit out out of an ogre now as the little runs around laughing. Maybe one of my characters should train an ogre to be afraid of gnomes just for that purpose. To see this big thing flee from this tiny thing would be hilarious.
In my campaigns, I created High Ogres (not the same as High Ogres of other campaigns). They pretty much Ogres in physical stats but are twice as tall as humans, 10x as massive, and look like large-jawed prominent-brow-ridge versions of humans. Their alignment and culture are very similar to Dwarves but are more on the outside of mountains than within, favoring employing shorter races for the actual mining. They are not stupid at all and often rival giants and ally themselves with Dwarves, usually, the anti-giant alliance brokers a peace and friendship between the two races during the alliance. During the alliances they see that they are kindred spirits with Dwarves in many ways, especially their Lawful social structures, artistic tastes (not jewelry, High Ogres care not for jewels nor gems aside from using gems as money), shared rivals, metalworking, and daur pragmatism. Their metabolism is very efficient, making them need only 2x the consumption of a human of half its height. They are basically giant humans that follow an almost Dwarfen society with a better Ogre biology. I allow them as player characters only in advanced campaigns. Half High-Ogres (human) are like the 2nd Ed Complete Humanoids' Handbook version but look very much like larger normal humans and have different stat modifiers and racial restrictions. One, they can be anything unrestricted like a Human. Two, Bonus to STR and CON and sacrifice DEX... STR and CON minimums make them better there. Three, females are equal to males in all ways (attractive to those with high-ogre blood, more attractive if the female is seen as a physical superior). Four, any magical device that is not specifically designed to the Half High-Ogres's class has a chance to not work (Gnome Magic Item Failure roll, multi-classing reduces this effect at the cost of being a multi-classed character). Five, powerful leap and strike (bare hands are considered clubs, leaping distance is doubled, and charging an enemy with a weapon is considered as advantaged as if doing it from horseback). Six, even though barely size L, a Half High-Ogre can use a size L weapon like a size M user uses a size M weapon. Seven, Big Uncouth and Scary, a Half High-Ogre is innately more direct and apparently more threatening so there is a -3 reaction roll to encounter reaction rolls, even to animals unless the class is a Ranger or other animal-friendly class. Eight, the Half High-Ogre inherited the High-Ogres super-efficient metabolism and consumes the same food and drink of an average player character.
@Frizzurd Not normally because there are humanlike races that can pass as those. I like homebrewing humans and other races as having forms of dwarfism and giantism to make them rather unusual. In one of my campaigns, the players met an NPC half-dwarf's parents, apparently two dwarves. Half-dwarves in my campaigns are dwarf-stocky but a little taller than the taller parent's race, so the players were surprised to meet such tiny parents of such a huge NPC they loved hiring for muscle. I also have a reoccurring "big head" NPC. The players find out that the big-headed NPC is actually a half-ogre with a form of dwarfism. I also had a dwarf with a form of giantism, he turned out to be (physically speaking) pretty much "humanlike in both stature and weakness". So, in short, they exist primarily as special NPCs which are mostly homebrewed.
Hey AJ, great video! Always love the pictures you chose. There's one with an ogre holding a warhammer, then I realized its an Anvil on a long handle. Man, its been a long time since you did the Ogre Magi. I seen a homebrew that is out of this world and has a good back story, the Ogre Slug. Thanks AJ & have a great day.
Thinking of playing an Ogre Cleric of Stronmaus who gained his power and good nature after being struck in the forehead by lightening and having "visions" of his god. He is left with lighting scars that cover his entire body that start right between his eyes.
Just saw Goblin Slayer give one a beatdown . He didn't care what the hell it was, the Ogre was just in his way of killing more goblins . Wondered if they were the same here .
Need a cult of Everlasting Frost Giants. They're busying fighting Red Dracoliches in the campaign where the heroes have one hell of a problem on their hands. I dunno? If things go south, I'd be fine with the heroes ending the threat at the expense of either causing a calamity to consume both cults and the civilians or to get the Terrasque to swallow up the area and stop the threat. But either way, I want a cult of Everlasting Frost Giants now.
Frost giants are .. ghosts .. from a world where their sun was dying and putting off less heat causing their world to freeze over. So they toke a path of enlightenment like Buddha. When they are incarnated into other races they lose most of their memories cause to mortal young brains can't process the past life memories and take up wizardry or Sorcerer paths to reawaken their cold & shape shifting abilities. If they have no organic host they function as Ice Elementals. Treat them as 14th-level wizard lich ghost in ice elemental forms, and lower level spellcasters in mortal forms cause they are still trying to figure out how to channel their magic through their host.
Ogres are and always were my favorite stock crude crushers, the bad guy Incredible Hulks (stock, not super-powered) antagonists. They are amoral to the max, not only violent but mixing their blood via behind the scenes actions as well as using hostages for cruel forms of entertainment otherwise before eating them. They are the hammer icon of evil. I added a twist. High Ogres. After I created the race in the 80s and implemented them, a friend told me of High Ogres in the 90s. My home-brew was different. My High Ogres were evolved Ogres. Ogres were always of strife and conflict, even internally. High Ogres came from one continent (evolution and history relative to the planet in Loom). They evolved to be akin to Star Trek's Klingons (pre-Discovery). They are Lawful Neutral and looking very much like 12' tall hulking humans. Their culture fused with Mountain Dwarfs after they battled out their differences and found out they had more in common than opposed. That was when the Underdark invaded and they discovered they were more allies than enemies before the accord. I also love keep popping Ogres up all over the place. They are chaotic enough to not need a reason for it. Because of the stigma and horror of Ogres, I always allow Ogre as a Player Character race. I only allow High Ogres if the race is already involved in my campaigns... they are elsewise too human and too advantaged to just allow. They are almost like big superhumans.
@@HumbleMemeFarmer Transition stage (back in time) or Ogre-High Ogre hybrid. High Ogres are 12' tall and look far like a muscular hulking human than an Ogre. In one of my last campaigns, I let a player create a "Shrek" by being a cross between the two.
Please keep making videos. At least do it as a hobby. Your passion and narration is so good. It really sounds like you should keep it up. 10/10 lore video
0.) Is it just me or are these lazy orks that cannot propperly loot things? 1.) Is that transformation specific to frost giants (or giants in general)? 2.) How did the relationship between Othea and Annam factor into the dawn war? 3.) Will they accept a challenge from a non-oger to a game of knucklebones? 4.) Do orcs work with ogers, or just respect them?
0.) Orcs are an alien species, not related (though Ettins are technically Orcs as well). 1.) It is up to Vaprak, who seems to prefer Frost Giants. Remember, Vaprak compels a Troll to willingly get eaten alive by a giant. 2.) The Dawn war took place on another world (Nerath, not Toril) Annam arrived on Toril from elsewhere, Othea was a Primordial native to Toril. 3.) Probably, but will kill the challenger is they don't like the result of the game. ("Let the Wookie win") 4.) Yes, that is why Orcs learn to speak their language.
Huh, if they like collecting shiny things then it shouldn't be too much of a hassle to have a dragon convince ogres to collect gold from them for the dragon time sleep on. After all, its not going anywhere, is it?
Now this is a video i needed. Know anymore lore on how ogers repoduce/breed in d&d? Litter size? Maturity rates? That kind of thing, so i can moddify them to be even most PTSD inducing for world building reasons. (converting evil & potentially green skinned stuff in warhammer ork repoductive biology.)
Well, we would be talking a ten or eleven month pregnancy, they are usually born premature in the case of half ogres and in the case of a medium humanoid mother, she will not survive the birth without magic healing. Ogres rarely have twins and the infant mortality rate is high.
In my campaign, I have a plethora of playable ogre race . Most have regular intelligence I made storm ogres really intelligent and civilized. Green ogres where pretty much the hulk ..but not as strong 😂 Black ogres where kinda drow like. But around 12' tall Grey ogres 8' to 10' but body built like a elf
I know Stone, Fire, Frost, and Hill giants occasionally raid Goliath tribes for slaves, do Ogres do the same? Or are they not quite organized enough to do so?
@@bleddynwolf8463 it's my personal opinion that any of the giants has the capacity to have a good alignment. Firbolg, Goliath, even some Verbeeg can be friendly toward other humanoids and in the far north, there is a geothermal area where crops are grown that has a truce, even some trade between the humans, Firbolg and true giants who share that region.
Could you imagine a Dwarf, Gnome, or Halfling trying to bang an Ogre? One way around, you might as well be throwing a hotdog down a hallway. The other way, it’s basically like trying to stick a Gnome in another Gnome like some type of nesting doll.
@@Im-Not-a-Dog Well they might be doing it to make useful hybrids. Like evil wizards and warlocks trying to use a race of smarter, fey-inclined ogrillons to commit terrible acts.
Only if it has a horde of fanatical Bullywugs surrounding it, feeding it constantly, behaving like it is some sort of living fertility god for their spawning ponds.
for something 10ft tall , they really dont weigh nearly enough . there are humans that are close to those weights that are only around 7ft tall...they ought to have another 200+ kgs at least. even larger animals like horses weigh significantly more then that. they would have to be extremely skinny for that height to make the weight , and they are always depicted as being very broad and heavily built.
@@AJPickett I use three HP so my players feel they are stronger. I guess it could make for some good RP moments, when your wizard gets pummeled by the local farmer because of a lucky punch when he was forced to fight barehanded.
I used the ogre bolt launcher in my game, a ogre runt stole a ballista from a castle cause he thought it was cool. The party found him in the wilderness and since they were the first people to ever treat him nice he thought they were his friends, so he helped protect them through the wilderness... Honestly, i was expecting a quick fight and be done with it as a random encounter i rolled before the session, but they loved him, and took him in as one of their own... poor ogre never stood a chance against the aberrations they would find on their journey. Though he did manage the killing blow on a dragon before then... so at least he had a bit of glory.
Nawww :)
Reminds me of Ogie the Ogre :' )
Oh boi. Time for me to play an Ogre paladin of the crown:"Legal text says your wagon is one foot to broad. Now pay fine or get club."
Oh, man, ogres are the worst. They'll tear out your spleen! Eat your liver! Squeeze the jelly from your eyes!
Actually, it's quite good on toast.
1:57 I would disagree, Trolls and Ogres can get along just fine. My first Roommate and I did. I called him an Ogre, he called me a Troll. Living in a basement apartment just confirmed the optics, we were a brutish pair of friends living in our own filth for 3 years.
Noice
careful there, disgusting trolls and ogres are overly fond of eating gnomes and other small races
@@JohnA... uh oh
DMed a session last weekend, where train robbers had ogres that wielded small cannons. Pretty lethal, but the ogre needed a bandit to load their cannons, since they are dummies.
They are pretty straight forward monsters, but I think it isn't that hard to spice them up somewhat.
To be fair to the Ogres, most things are less intelligent than a Chimpanzee....including some humans...
True the majority of "human" believe they "evolved" by accident, when in reality they are devolving demigods being drained of energy by vampiric spirits of the fallen. And chimps are instinctual, more then intelligent, ergo the 100 monkey experiment.
@@ParadoxISPower Bro, either get off of the drugs or share with the class.
An Ogre Lich, it's all ogre now
Its Not ogre until its Ogre
Who gave Shrek a phylactery?
I approve, being nicknamed ogre myself
Ima put an ogre lich in my campaign now
"They sometimes breed with humans, or should i say humans will breed with just about everything"
Those kinky humans. The mount everything they can find. XD
Surprised their aren't half Dwarfs yet. Yet a half Dwarf would be similar in height to a human and stocky, roughly 5'4"-5'8". Yet I'm surprised humans haven't experimented with creating subraces through science and magic experiments.
Yet these exriments could produce mutants, Juggarnauts(giantkin originating from humans who drank too many growth potions), tricylopses, Hogrocs(human, orc, and ogre crossbreeds), and etc.
@@zacharygadzinski3147 You should check out the Heroes of Might and Magic lore. There the human Wizards created most of the
monstrous races. Like the beast folks, orcs (Who are crossbreed between humans and demons in their lore) undead and many other. All were created to be slaves and then later
expelled because they couldn't control them. And the dark elves gladly took them over to be their slaves. XD
Zachary Gadzinski half-dwarfs are Halflings
gnomes are elf-dwarves
"I'm on the brute squad."
"_On the brute squad? You_ are _the brute squad_"
Lame people: Ogres are just simple slightly smaller hill Giants. There is nothing going on with them lore wise.
Loremaster Aj Puckett: *Makes a 26 minute video about them detailing everything he could*
You come around the tree to investigate the guttural moans and high pitched screams "GET THE BAD STUFF OUT! you hear splitting the night sky..... to an ogre having a violent and pitched.... yet losing battle with diarrhea.
Roll initiative.
Guard: How did you big dumb brutes escape from your cells, the metal on those bars are indestructible to all but magic.
Ogre: Well, you see, metal no birack because as you said, it magic, so we smashed stone walls instead because stones not magic.
Mastermind Rouge: Hummm, a very clever plan for a person who can't count to twenty without taking off his shoes.
Silly manling. Ogres don’t wear shoes.
@@almitrahopkins1873 some might
I don't play D&D but still love your videos. They make my job a bit more bearable. Thank you.
"Humans will breed with just about anything." The most realistic thing said about d&d lmao
& other works.
"i have no idea why that tree just called me papa, i swear!" - bard, probably
Well I guess that's one thing we have in common with the dragons.
Yeah gave birth to abominations the human race must keep dirt gene pool in Tak
Your channel has helped me more then I could ever say in a comment. This is my number 1 D&D RUclips channel. I've been creating a huge sprawling campaign and your help has been essential.
Keep up the amazing work and thanks.
Thank you!
Humans will breed with just about anything.....Even in DnD we can't escape our heresy.
Probably the other way around in this case.
@@avatarion that's a scary thought 😂 but considering all the furry/Scalely and other weird fetishist that exist I'd say it's a bit of both, Y'know you'd clap them Yuan-Ti cheeks....you saying you wouldn't pipe down a fine Ork woman bruh lies
Yeah, more accurately Ogres will breed with anything
Bards breed.
If she has a plump rump that's enough for some guys.
A kraken mind-controlling an entire clan of ogres too rapidly breed with themselves and humans, so the kraken could have a really big army, pretty fast
20:45 Amazing Half-Ogre artwork.
"Ogres don't get happily ever afters"
I feel like with all of the comments I leave I don’t say this enough but thank you for making awesome videos that are both informative and entertaining, as well as taking the time to actually respond to fan questions and random jokes. Keep up the great work AJ. 👍
Will do!
I second this.
I have a bit of a soft spot for big, dopey brutes... Shoot... Come to think of it: some of my finest friends could be described as such.
Fun fact: ogre turns up in folklore, both British and French, meaning something like “man-eater” and they don’t necessarily have to be particularly large, though they often are.
The ogre mage, contrary to internet wisdom wasn’t originally based on the oni, instead being based on the Blue Ogre from Lang’s Fairy Books (I forget which colour), who had all of the listed powers from the star block.
Some tended towards something akin to wendigo, with humans becoming one after eating enough human meat.
Interesting! thank you
I feel like a human or similar sized creature should do more damage than a medium sized rock when thrown. 1d4+4 is not enough damage for having a 100-250 lb meat puppet that is potentially wearing metal armor and weighed down by adventuring gear and loot from adventuring thrown at you from at least 10 feet in the air. A Gnome with a Strength of 18 can do the same damage with a club. This is where I feel the PHB falls a little short on covering this type of stuff, especially since it happens surprisingly often whenever Large Humanoids are involved. I should not be able to do the same damage to an Ogre by swinging a table leg as it does to me by swinging a Half-Orc.
Yeah:
Size dynamics in 5e are very off. I port over Pathfinders.
Enlarge/Reduce is one of my favourite spells but it's underpowered for what you oughta be able to accomplish.
I'd be happy with it being 3rd or 4th level if it gave better stat buffs when cast
Er on the conservative and let the DM make the call
AJ Pickett Of course, once you agree to let someone DM you agree to play by their rules, but that has never stopped anyone from trying to pull a Pat Rothfuss at the table. “But what if I land on the softer rocks?” Lol
I just typically go with a higher damage die when I DM. Normally 2D8+Str for a full sized humanoid, 2D4+Str for a smaller humanoid, and 2D10+Str If you get something like a Minotaur or Loxodon thrown at you. I just think the weight of the projectile should be taken into account when calculating damage. But I’m not gunna argue with a DM if my Kobold rogue gets hit with a Bugbear from 20 feet away and they say I only take 7 damage.
Great video Kiwi,Ogres are an excellent low level high strength baddie to use for just about ANY occassion. I personally like using them in my bad guys campaign as training tools for my newest PCs to work with!
I have a soft spot for ogres. They sit in a really interesting place where they could be a pretty much mindless monster, that no guilt over killing such a horrid beast. But under the right circumstances could act as an NPC, where the stupidity is not their fault and could have reasonable grievances over being badly treated. Possibly a bodyguard pet with a careful balance of not insulting, but also not getting it cocky.
I especially like Oni. Just recently did some homebrew creation of a player race half-oni, I called it an Oni-Kin. Kind of funny timing. Gave me some ideas to create other Japanese myths inspired races, currently putting together a tengu as maybe related to Kenku.
That sounds neat i like that idea
@@adamwelch4336 You can search "Oni-Kin" in DnDHomebrew on Reddit, if you want to check it out. I also added an Oni sorcerous origin I called Ogre Mage, to add some of the other abilities in, for an Alter Self focused sorcerer.
I was also wanting to do a homebrew ninja subclass to go with Oni, but now I am thinking that I might try multiple kinds of ninja subclasses after I do a tengu, and I am thinking maybe a small sized kitsune/fox race that I am leaning towards calling "Fenitsune". That way I could do a small, medium and powerful build medium for ideas.
Verbeeg & Ogres seem way to light especially because they are also bulky creatures.
verbeeg= 274cm & 204kg
Ogres = 310cm & 268kg
When a massive human like Hafþór Björnsson is 206cm & 205kg.
"Ogres don't eat vegetables unless they feel sick."
Well now I just feel called out.
Two headed orger im ready master. other head: im not ready!
Man the weights of d&d monsters are so off, I don’t mean to call out d&d, but the way ogres are built, along with being around 10 feet tall? They should be around a ton, but their official weights is like a quarter of that
Yeah, I fully agree.
I like to use a body mass index (BMI) calculator app. Unlike the physical charts, a lot of apps don't have an upper or lower height limit, making them useful for gnomes, giants, etc. Just decide whether your character is underweight, average, obese, etc, and pick a weight that corresponds to their height.
It's still not perfect (for example, larger creatures would probably have larger/denser bones to support their bulk), but much better that the linear scale that D&D seems to use.
Reminds of the Princess Bride....Half-Ogres aren't on the brute squad...they are brute squad.
The 3.5 ogres are my favorite visual interpretation as their lanky bodies and long heads make them look more animal like and distinct from giants.
I do not play D&D anymore, but enjoy your videos very much. Thank you for making them.
Apostate! XP
@@thedarkmaster4747 lol pretty much. 😀
If they hate humans for being better at them at knuckle bones they must really hate halflings.
True. Also halflings are considered a delicacy by Ogres.
How did Maiq get from the elder scrolls to dnd?
@@bluesap7318 mystic power
@@bluesap7318 curse on us from Sheogorath
It's all Ogre now.
I think Ogres aren't ever horrifying enough. They should be both shock horror and capable and willing to do the worst things imaginable. I've made my own Ogre lore in which people tend to avoid hunting them despite the reward due to what could happen if they fail in killing the thing.
no! stop with that shrek stuff! lol XD
Yeeeesss! "it's called a monster for a reason."
These fantasy monster weights are way, way too low! Not the first time I've thought this, but Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson (The Mountain) is 6 foot 8 inches and 386 pounds. (206cm and 175kg)
Maybe in 6e they'll fix the weights.
They dislike things smaller and smarter than them, huh? Does that make gnomes the race they hate the most?
This is amazing. Also I would imagine so.
Depends on how tender they are, in gnomes can get a bit stringy.
@@AJPickett We would say "wirey"
I imagine a gnome annoying the shit out out of an ogre now as the little runs around laughing.
Maybe one of my characters should train an ogre to be afraid of gnomes just for that purpose.
To see this big thing flee from this tiny thing would be hilarious.
DkboxerT.B.H. gnomes are terrorfying enough to justify that level of fear.
Dude that’s crazy - working in an adventure module starring ogres so this was perfect timing! :0
Ogres have always been some of my favorite monsters in dnd, wow, and others. Love them.
The walls meant to go around my swamp, not right through it!
Ogre magi vs. Common Human. Imagine it, visualize it. *SPLAT*
In my campaigns, I created High Ogres (not the same as High Ogres of other campaigns). They pretty much Ogres in physical stats but are twice as tall as humans, 10x as massive, and look like large-jawed prominent-brow-ridge versions of humans. Their alignment and culture are very similar to Dwarves but are more on the outside of mountains than within, favoring employing shorter races for the actual mining. They are not stupid at all and often rival giants and ally themselves with Dwarves, usually, the anti-giant alliance brokers a peace and friendship between the two races during the alliance. During the alliances they see that they are kindred spirits with Dwarves in many ways, especially their Lawful social structures, artistic tastes (not jewelry, High Ogres care not for jewels nor gems aside from using gems as money), shared rivals, metalworking, and daur pragmatism. Their metabolism is very efficient, making them need only 2x the consumption of a human of half its height. They are basically giant humans that follow an almost Dwarfen society with a better Ogre biology. I allow them as player characters only in advanced campaigns.
Half High-Ogres (human) are like the 2nd Ed Complete Humanoids' Handbook version but look very much like larger normal humans and have different stat modifiers and racial restrictions. One, they can be anything unrestricted like a Human. Two, Bonus to STR and CON and sacrifice DEX... STR and CON minimums make them better there. Three, females are equal to males in all ways (attractive to those with high-ogre blood, more attractive if the female is seen as a physical superior). Four, any magical device that is not specifically designed to the Half High-Ogres's class has a chance to not work (Gnome Magic Item Failure roll, multi-classing reduces this effect at the cost of being a multi-classed character). Five, powerful leap and strike (bare hands are considered clubs, leaping distance is doubled, and charging an enemy with a weapon is considered as advantaged as if doing it from horseback). Six, even though barely size L, a Half High-Ogre can use a size L weapon like a size M user uses a size M weapon. Seven, Big Uncouth and Scary, a Half High-Ogre is innately more direct and apparently more threatening so there is a -3 reaction roll to encounter reaction rolls, even to animals unless the class is a Ranger or other animal-friendly class. Eight, the Half High-Ogre inherited the High-Ogres super-efficient metabolism and consumes the same food and drink of an average player character.
@Frizzurd Not normally because there are humanlike races that can pass as those. I like homebrewing humans and other races as having forms of dwarfism and giantism to make them rather unusual. In one of my campaigns, the players met an NPC half-dwarf's parents, apparently two dwarves. Half-dwarves in my campaigns are dwarf-stocky but a little taller than the taller parent's race, so the players were surprised to meet such tiny parents of such a huge NPC they loved hiring for muscle. I also have a reoccurring "big head" NPC. The players find out that the big-headed NPC is actually a half-ogre with a form of dwarfism. I also had a dwarf with a form of giantism, he turned out to be (physically speaking) pretty much "humanlike in both stature and weakness". So, in short, they exist primarily as special NPCs which are mostly homebrewed.
What a layered analysis
Hey AJ, great video! Always love the pictures you chose. There's one with an ogre holding a warhammer, then I realized its an Anvil on a long handle. Man, its been a long time since you did the Ogre Magi. I seen a homebrew that is out of this world and has a good back story, the Ogre Slug.
Thanks AJ & have a great day.
13:41 Between this video and Total Recall, I've learned there's a right way and a wrong way to give a creature three boobs...
Thinking of playing an Ogre Cleric of Stronmaus who gained his power and good nature after being struck in the forehead by lightening and having "visions" of his god. He is left with lighting scars that cover his entire body that start right between his eyes.
That is cool.
SomeBODY ONCE TOLD ME
THE WORLD WAS GONNA ROLE ME ,
I AIN'T THE SHARPEST TOOL IN THE SHED
Ogre mage is one of my favorites.
Just saw Goblin Slayer give one a beatdown . He didn't care what the hell it was, the Ogre was just in his way of killing more goblins .
Wondered if they were the same here .
loved his use of a portal scroll
The portal scroll at the bottom of the ocean is such a cool move
feel like ogres view the smaller peoples like humans, dwarves, and elves might negatively view tricksy little faeries
Seems like a good comparison
Except less magic and flight
Need a cult of Everlasting Frost Giants.
They're busying fighting Red Dracoliches in the campaign where the heroes have one hell of a problem on their hands.
I dunno? If things go south, I'd be fine with the heroes ending the threat at the expense of either causing a calamity to consume both cults and the civilians or to get the Terrasque to swallow up the area and stop the threat.
But either way, I want a cult of Everlasting Frost Giants now.
Frost giants are .. ghosts .. from a world where their sun was dying and putting off less heat causing their world to freeze over. So they toke a path of enlightenment like Buddha. When they are incarnated into other races they lose most of their memories cause to mortal young brains can't process the past life memories and take up wizardry or Sorcerer paths to reawaken their cold & shape shifting abilities. If they have no organic host they function as Ice Elementals.
Treat them as 14th-level wizard lich ghost in ice elemental forms, and lower level spellcasters in mortal forms cause they are still trying to figure out how to channel their magic through their host.
@@krispalermo8133
I don't do reincarnation. Ressurection is my thing.
What is a mythical creature that fails at their job considered?
Medi-ogre!
Ogres are and always were my favorite stock crude crushers, the bad guy Incredible Hulks (stock, not super-powered) antagonists. They are amoral to the max, not only violent but mixing their blood via behind the scenes actions as well as using hostages for cruel forms of entertainment otherwise before eating them. They are the hammer icon of evil.
I added a twist. High Ogres. After I created the race in the 80s and implemented them, a friend told me of High Ogres in the 90s. My home-brew was different. My High Ogres were evolved Ogres. Ogres were always of strife and conflict, even internally. High Ogres came from one continent (evolution and history relative to the planet in Loom). They evolved to be akin to Star Trek's Klingons (pre-Discovery). They are Lawful Neutral and looking very much like 12' tall hulking humans. Their culture fused with Mountain Dwarfs after they battled out their differences and found out they had more in common than opposed. That was when the Underdark invaded and they discovered they were more allies than enemies before the accord.
I also love keep popping Ogres up all over the place. They are chaotic enough to not need a reason for it. Because of the stigma and horror of Ogres, I always allow Ogre as a Player Character race. I only allow High Ogres if the race is already involved in my campaigns... they are elsewise too human and too advantaged to just allow. They are almost like big superhumans.
Question, would Shrek qualify as a High Ogre?
@@HumbleMemeFarmer Transition stage (back in time) or Ogre-High Ogre hybrid. High Ogres are 12' tall and look far like a muscular hulking human than an Ogre. In one of my last campaigns, I let a player create a "Shrek" by being a cross between the two.
I always mix this with warhammer ogres for fluff
Ogres from the Adventures of the Gummi Bears where hilarious.
Magic and mystery are part of their history..
@@AJPickett Toadie!!!!
Please keep making videos. At least do it as a hobby. Your passion and narration is so good. It really sounds like you should keep it up. 10/10 lore video
Ogre... the meat shield and walking battering ram of the Orc army
AJ! How could you leave out the Goblin Hucker? In Storm Kong’s Thunder. An Ogre with a mounted Catapult on its shoulders to launch Goblins with.
Ogre, half giant, half tardigrade on a bad day.
Lol. They won't mate with dwarves, but they will with goblins.
Poor goblins 😂
Death by snu snu
Bugbears?
playing baldur's gate 3, and (spoiler alert)
stumbled on a bugbear (which is a goblin type) and lady ogre...
@@namekman01 seems about right.
Gob-piece, you who recognize this, I salute you and your beautiful mind.
Apparently they are not like onions.
If you hit them just right with a sword, they'll have layers.
in my homebrew setting ogres are more intelligent, but they have a long standing racial blood fued with trolls. Why? they don't remember.
Probably due to Vaprak.
They stole there rabbits
What are you doing in my swamp!?
Autograph plz?
These poor creatures suffer from palumboism.
0.) Is it just me or are these lazy orks that cannot propperly loot things?
1.) Is that transformation specific to frost giants (or giants in general)?
2.) How did the relationship between Othea and Annam factor into the dawn war?
3.) Will they accept a challenge from a non-oger to a game of knucklebones?
4.) Do orcs work with ogers, or just respect them?
Hay. Your that guy from AJ Pickett’s live-stream who got my warhammer 40k reference! Hello friend!
0.) Orcs are an alien species, not related (though Ettins are technically Orcs as well).
1.) It is up to Vaprak, who seems to prefer Frost Giants. Remember, Vaprak compels a Troll to willingly get eaten alive by a giant.
2.) The Dawn war took place on another world (Nerath, not Toril) Annam arrived on Toril from elsewhere, Othea was a Primordial native to Toril.
3.) Probably, but will kill the challenger is they don't like the result of the game. ("Let the Wookie win")
4.) Yes, that is why Orcs learn to speak their language.
@@AJPickett 0.) I was referring to warhammer 40k orks, hints the mention of looting.
@@defshepard7490 Hello
Huh, if they like collecting shiny things then it shouldn't be too much of a hassle to have a dragon convince ogres to collect gold from them for the dragon time sleep on.
After all, its not going anywhere, is it?
Ogres forget stuff.
That's when the dragon sends their human servant to command the ogres.
I swear you said, "Big, British, and Stupid"
Sounds right to me.
In my own fantasy universe, Ogres are my version of orcs.
Thanks for another great video AJ! As always I learned a great deal.
Have you heard of the ogre kingdoms in warhammer fantasy?
They are awesome
Also
When you say hobbits, you mean halfling right
Alex McCutcheon They are like super Huns but with canibalism
Love how you throw warhammer Ogres in those pics lol
i am an ogre fan from warhammer researching how much i'd like dnd ones... still on the fence but they seem neat
Thanks AJ! Appreciate all the work
Thanks AJ. I always enjoy your videos.
Hey, do you have any suggestions for someone at college looking to start and/or join a gaming group?
3:58 that’s from the cyoa books “endless journey the wizard” her name is chief guu or ghuu. XD
Now this is a video i needed. Know anymore lore on how ogers repoduce/breed in d&d? Litter size? Maturity rates? That kind of thing, so i can moddify them to be even most PTSD inducing for world building reasons. (converting evil & potentially green skinned stuff in warhammer ork repoductive biology.)
Well, we would be talking a ten or eleven month pregnancy, they are usually born premature in the case of half ogres and in the case of a medium humanoid mother, she will not survive the birth without magic healing. Ogres rarely have twins and the infant mortality rate is high.
AJ Pickett Infant mortality from neglect or infanticide? Thanks for the answers anyways.
Did I hear that right? Ogres will breed with goblins? I hope that was supposed to be hobgoblins and bugbears.
Ogres will breed with anything, as will goblins, pretty much. Hey, humans have quite a reputation as well.
@@AJPickett Only the bards, good sir.
13:43 If that ogre female wants you...What Would you Do? 😉😉
@@davhot4107 Wow, she's like Lizzo!
There's a scene of a bugbear nailing an ogress doggy style in Baldur's Gate 3 😂😂😂
Every time I hear the word "ogre" I think about Baldurs Gate.
In my campaign, I have a plethora of playable ogre race . Most have regular intelligence
I made storm ogres really intelligent and civilized.
Green ogres where pretty much the hulk ..but not as strong 😂
Black ogres where kinda drow like. But around 12' tall
Grey ogres 8' to 10' but body built like a elf
Just typed in Ogre stuff. I don't know what I was doing.
I'm an ogre, RAWR!
"Its like eating Styrofoam theyre so thick" XD you got me in stitches
So they basically just named them "we're biiiig!"
noice
Its because versmart
It's based on "Very Big" what smaller creatures would refer to them as.
Thanks, food for thought for new ogre subspecies
A high ranking gruul clan member of ravinca can have two ogres as npc teamates
I know Stone, Fire, Frost, and Hill giants occasionally raid Goliath tribes for slaves, do Ogres do the same? Or are they not quite organized enough to do so?
Ogres are like onions
trains
@@worldoftrains3035 Wut?
Xenomorphs are males
Dungeons and Dragons Lore: Ogre Crossbreeding(fixed title for ya, to warn people)
What bout a vid on ravenloft or strahd the vamp
An Ogre Werewolf, now that's a scary concept
Wouldn't it be wildin' if you gave one a ring of sustenance...
Yoooooo so happy you did this
For your information, there's a lot more to ogres than people think.
They have layers.
@@AJPickett lol
@@AJPickett are there any neutral, chaotic neutral or good giant kin? i'm struggling to put any in as a npc.
@@bleddynwolf8463 it's my personal opinion that any of the giants has the capacity to have a good alignment. Firbolg, Goliath, even some Verbeeg can be friendly toward other humanoids and in the far north, there is a geothermal area where crops are grown that has a truce, even some trade between the humans, Firbolg and true giants who share that region.
@@AJPickett thanks!
Could you imagine a Dwarf, Gnome, or Halfling trying to bang an Ogre?
One way around, you might as well be throwing a hotdog down a hallway.
The other way, it’s basically like trying to stick a Gnome in another Gnome like some type of nesting doll.
Magic is clearly involved
A few Reduce and Enlarge spells being cast
DCdabest I really don’t think the type of people who’d be willing to bang an Ogre are the same type who are smart enough to learn magic.
@@Im-Not-a-Dog
Well they might be doing it to make useful hybrids.
Like evil wizards and warlocks trying to use a race of smarter, fey-inclined ogrillons to commit terrible acts.
@@Im-Not-a-Dog
And hey.
Ogres mights have tiny junk. Like gorrilas
@@DCdabest TMI
Good I have too many unused Ogre minis. Froghemoth on a sixth level party...too much?
Only if it has a horde of fanatical Bullywugs surrounding it, feeding it constantly, behaving like it is some sort of living fertility god for their spawning ponds.
My favorite of the humanoid/giant kin. Trolls are a close second.
But do they have layers?????
Layers of grime and filth? Yes, yes they do.
@@AJPickett It’ll bring tears to your eyes peeling those layers off too.
Ogres are like onions.
@@Michael-du2fv They both bring tears to your eyes when you peel back the layers?
It's never oger is it? 🤣 Even in this day and age, the Shrek jokes just keep coming. 😂
It's never ogre.
Remember, Ogres have layers.
Like cakes, cakes have layers
Lord Khaeles Drakos Ogres are not like cakes! They’re like Onions! Lol
Lairs* xD
@@Chaos_Rising Layers. He got it right the first time. *face palm*
@@DirtyDishSoap i know ... but you didn't get the joke ;)
for something 10ft tall , they really dont weigh nearly enough . there are humans that are close to those weights that are only around 7ft tall...they ought to have another 200+ kgs at least. even larger animals like horses weigh significantly more then that. they would have to be extremely skinny for that height to make the weight , and they are always depicted as being very broad and heavily built.
If they were 9 foot tall and 200kg they would have a BMI of 27 (barely overweight and far less than most strength based athletes).
Ogres are ripped!
Average hit points for a common human is typically three.
I usually give them seven.
@@AJPickett I use three HP so my players feel they are stronger. I guess it could make for some good RP moments, when your wizard gets pummeled by the local farmer because of a lucky punch when he was forced to fight barehanded.