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I seen the the Undertones in 1983 in Northern Ireland in a rural village hall and the brought the house down. I still today buy Denis the menice t-shirts and jackets in tribute to be a teenage Punk. 100% the O Neill brothers carried the band, but Fergal voice was needed. I loved being into Punk music then, now barriers with punk music, you went anywhere when others did not. Thank you Micky, Damian, John, Billy and Feargal and especially Terry. Terry still runs a record shop in Belfast today.. Heroes total heroes..
I sent John Peel the debut LP by my mid 90s band Lust In Space, suggesting that since it was recorded in Tasmania it might be the most distant music (from his studio) he'd ever been come across. It seemed to work. he played two songs, I wouldn't have known but got tipped off by someone. I name checked The Undertones in one song which might have helped. Still seems to be the best moment of my life.
In 97 I had just finished building a car, it was made from thin air and junk as I was so poor. eg: The bonnet was made from an old aluminum chip-shop pie counter. I went on to drive this car across the top of the Sahara in 97 (KSK 362) as part of the Liege-Agadir-Liege rally just to prove a point. Anyway, as a result of this making the local papers I was invited to exhibit my car at Alexandra Palace, which was a real honour. After two days I had two memorable encounters there. The first was from a blind man, who after asking for my permission to caress my car, went on to do so for fifteen minutes. At then he wept and said it was the most beautiful car he had ever stroked! The second magic moment was Feargal Sharkey, bold as brass grinned from ear to ear and told me he loved my car and grabbed my hand. We chatted about music and he gave me some advice as I had just started posting demo's of my music then. He kept reminding me that he had retired so I didn't push him nor embarrass myself. Really lovely bloke and probably the only time that I remember being taller than one of my heroes. Wish him all the best. 🇬🇧🎶🇮🇪
I sat next to Fergal in a theatre once. I didn't want to bother him and nobody else did either that I saw. I remember he just stood up when everyone was leaving and just smiled happily whilst waiting for everyone to leave.
John Peel on first hearing Killing joke though they were a wind-up..He though they were session musicians at first as they could play so well..They had rehearsed their songs for about a year before unleashing themselves on the world...They also had record contract issues...But went on to become one of the most original & influential bands on the planet...!
Saw them in November 78 just as teenager kicks was released ,also playing that night were the rezillos and a pretty much unknown joy division as support playing their first London gig..All for £1.20
Until you've pogoed to it, you won't understand what it was like to hear this blasting out at a 'disco' when it first came out. It still holds that handclapping, guitar bashing, rhythmic and dynamic energy.. from that double drumbeat opening on to the closing sustained end chord. Of course when you are now old, the song is looking back to a time when we were once young.. with growing up pains, and teen 'yearnings' and all.
I had a bit of an epiphany about this song years and years after it was released. It sounds upbeat but it's actually a lament. He hasn't actually got the girl and maybe never will. I was thinking quite a bit about Peel's taste in music at around that time. It's often said that JP was ahead of the trends, getting these bands in before they were big and somehow being ahead of the Zeitgeist. So often it's said he had this ability to spot the talent, and that being like, how shall I put it? - good taste in music... the music that matters... that's culturally important? It's generally held that he had this open mind about music and would be able to spot the talent through it's quality above all else. But under analysis that's not actually the case. John Peel did have a particular taste in music and he selected music that responded to his needs. What he chose was very often quite desolate or had elements of catharsis and hinting at an inner devastation. Hardly any of these bands actually caught the public attention in a big way. Sure, they have had a long line of influence, but at any given time it's only a small portion of each successive Generation who take to them. A classic example would be Joy Division. Yes you can say they have reached a hell of a lot of people in their years and influenced a lot of successive music, but in terms of mainstream success most people in the world don't listen to them. I know it's hard to accept, and the temptation is to believe that this is because most music is garbage and only a few of the initiated get to hear the good stuff, but the truth of the matter is, it's a minority taste. Fulfilling?- yes maybe. Makes a good backstory or TV - yes we can probably agree on that. But still only a minority audience in the greater scheme of things.
I’m actually reading from a script on a computer screen off camera. I’ve got awful memory for scripts. Can you watch this video a few more times so the ad revenue can buy me a teleprompter? 👀
John O'Neill needs his ears testing too then apparently... this is a quote from him: "The demos sounded exactly the same as the tracks that ended up on the finished record,” recalls John O'Neill. "They were just a bit weedier. We couldn't turn up the amps as loud as we wanted to, so they sounded a little weak. The studio at Magee University was really better suited to a person with a keyboard or a rough soundtrack for a short film. It wasn't exactly set up for a band, and although the guy who helped us with it did the best he could, it wasn't an ideal environment. Then again, while we didn't think the demo was all that good, we hoped that if we sent it to people they might see the potential in the songs.”
@@MusicMongoose he probaby does, too. Two peas in a pod. Huh? Snuggled up together, in your dreams?? He's not exactly a muso. Is he? For starters, the demo is significantly faster. Already admitted 'weedier', as in thin. There's at least two points which mean it can't be 'exactly' the same. Are you in love with the bloke, or something? Do you realise how wet a schoolyard defensive reply you supplied here? Incredible! 🫤
Yes, he's my lover, as it turns out. We snuggle in bed together and read comments from people like you every night before we go to sleep. Nighty night! ❤️
Always upsets me when people classify Buzzcocks, Blondie & the Undertones (and more recently Green Day) as punk. Punk Rock was epitomised by clueless musicians with no skills but plenty of justified rage against the establishment. The bands I just mentioned were (and are) all talented musicians, if a little raw in their earliest days. True, they sorta had the same vibe, but sounded GREAT. But I couldn't (and still can't) stand the bloody Sex Pistols. I don't blame Bev Bevan for throwing shade on the genre back in '81. I mean, just listen to the opening drum flams on Teenage Kicks! Far too 'poncy' for Punk, surely? ;)
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I seen the the Undertones in 1983 in Northern Ireland in a rural village hall and the brought the house down. I still today buy Denis the menice t-shirts and jackets in tribute to be a teenage Punk.
100% the O Neill brothers carried the band, but Fergal voice was needed. I loved being into Punk music then, now barriers with punk music, you went anywhere when others did not.
Thank you Micky, Damian, John, Billy and Feargal and especially Terry. Terry still runs a record shop in Belfast today.. Heroes total heroes..
I sent John Peel the debut LP by my mid 90s band Lust In Space, suggesting that since it was recorded in Tasmania it might be the most distant music (from his studio) he'd ever been come across. It seemed to work. he played two songs, I wouldn't have known but got tipped off by someone. I name checked The Undertones in one song which might have helped. Still seems to be the best moment of my life.
Did you release anything? ❤
In 97 I had just finished building a car, it was made from thin air and junk as I was so poor. eg: The bonnet was made from an old aluminum chip-shop pie counter.
I went on to drive this car across the top of the Sahara in 97 (KSK 362) as part of the Liege-Agadir-Liege rally just to prove a point.
Anyway, as a result of this making the local papers I was invited to exhibit my car at Alexandra Palace, which was a real honour.
After two days I had two memorable encounters there. The first was from a blind man, who after asking for my permission to caress my car, went on to do so for fifteen minutes. At then he wept and said it was the most beautiful car he had ever stroked!
The second magic moment was Feargal Sharkey, bold as brass grinned from ear to ear and told me he loved my car and grabbed my hand. We chatted about music and he gave me some advice as I had just started posting demo's of my music then. He kept reminding me that he had retired so I didn't push him nor embarrass myself.
Really lovely bloke and probably the only time that I remember being taller than one of my heroes.
Wish him all the best. 🇬🇧🎶🇮🇪
I sat next to Fergal in a theatre once. I didn't want to bother him and nobody else did either that I saw. I remember he just stood up when everyone was leaving and just smiled happily whilst waiting for everyone to leave.
John Peel was compulsory listening while I was growing up to become a bass player. There will never be another like him. R.I.P.
John Peel on first hearing Killing joke though they were a wind-up..He though they were session musicians at first as they could play so well..They had rehearsed their songs for about a year before unleashing themselves on the world...They also had record contract issues...But went on to become one of the most original & influential bands on the planet...!
Great breakdown! Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Saw them in November 78 just as teenager kicks was released ,also playing that night were the rezillos and a pretty much unknown joy division as support playing their first London gig..All for £1.20
Until you've pogoed to it, you won't understand what it was like to hear this blasting out at a 'disco' when it first came out. It still holds that handclapping, guitar bashing, rhythmic and dynamic energy.. from that double drumbeat opening on to the closing sustained end chord. Of course when you are now old, the song is looking back to a time when we were once young.. with growing up pains, and teen 'yearnings' and all.
John Peel is probably the most influencial man in British music, his radio show was a regular for me as I was growing up
I had a bit of an epiphany about this song years and years after it was released. It sounds upbeat but it's actually a lament. He hasn't actually got the girl and maybe never will. I was thinking quite a bit about Peel's taste in music at around that time. It's often said that JP was ahead of the trends, getting these bands in before they were big and somehow being ahead of the Zeitgeist. So often it's said he had this ability to spot the talent, and that being like, how shall I put it? - good taste in music... the music that matters... that's culturally important? It's generally held that he had this open mind about music and would be able to spot the talent through it's quality above all else. But under analysis that's not actually the case. John Peel did have a particular taste in music and he selected music that responded to his needs. What he chose was very often quite desolate or had elements of catharsis and hinting at an inner devastation.
Hardly any of these bands actually caught the public attention in a big way. Sure, they have had a long line of influence, but at any given time it's only a small portion of each successive Generation who take to them. A classic example would be Joy Division. Yes you can say they have reached a hell of a lot of people in their years and influenced a lot of successive music, but in terms of mainstream success most people in the world don't listen to them. I know it's hard to accept, and the temptation is to believe that this is because most music is garbage and only a few of the initiated get to hear the good stuff, but the truth of the matter is, it's a minority taste. Fulfilling?- yes maybe. Makes a good backstory or TV - yes we can probably agree on that. But still only a minority audience in the greater scheme of things.
Ah Shutupa yer face!(No 1 if you remember).....Actually that's me agreeing with you
Kildare is not in Northern Ireland...hmmm. Was at that gig in Punchestown- great day out. Liked the vid - thanks.
My bad. Good spot!
Just subscribed, excellent video
Welcome aboard!
For me their best song was Get Over You
It's a classic it would definitely be in my top 100 Punk songs of all time
what's #1?
I always found it a bit monotonous to be honest,Undertones made a lot better imo.
@@ExcaliburDawn yeah I agree I like Here comes the summer better
@@Unfunny_Username_389 I haven't made a list
@@garyrigby21 speculate
Feargal I’ve got 385,000 MP3s I’d like to share with you.
Keep your eye on the camera; don't keep looking away to the side - it makes you look shifty.
I’m actually reading from a script on a computer screen off camera. I’ve got awful memory for scripts. Can you watch this video a few more times so the ad revenue can buy me a teleprompter? 👀
OK. Righto.
Why did it appeal to Peel?🤣
Not a mention about the lyrics? Bit of a miss surely 😮
Everyone from that era knows about the lyrics and their meaning.
Iconic record.But not a big hit at all at the time.Popular music taste is weird.
I think John Peel dodged a bullet dying when he did. I think they would’ve come for him.
They?
@@colincampbell4261 Operation Yewtree.
I think?
I don't think Peel had any Saville leanings, if that's your infering
@@jonathansteadman7935 There were accusations from a woman that he got her pregnant. She was 15 at the time.
If you think the early demo sounds almost the same as the final recorded version, you need your ears testing!!!
John O'Neill needs his ears testing too then apparently... this is a quote from him:
"The demos sounded exactly the same as the tracks that ended up on the finished record,” recalls John O'Neill. "They were just a bit weedier. We couldn't turn up the amps as loud as we wanted to, so they sounded a little weak. The studio at Magee University was really better suited to a person with a keyboard or a rough soundtrack for a short film. It wasn't exactly set up for a band, and although the guy who helped us with it did the best he could, it wasn't an ideal environment. Then again, while we didn't think the demo was all that good, we hoped that if we sent it to people they might see the potential in the songs.”
@@MusicMongoose he probaby does, too. Two peas in a pod. Huh? Snuggled up together, in your dreams?? He's not exactly a muso. Is he? For starters, the demo is significantly faster. Already admitted 'weedier', as in thin. There's at least two points which mean it can't be 'exactly' the same. Are you in love with the bloke, or something? Do you realise how wet a schoolyard defensive reply you supplied here? Incredible! 🫤
Yes, he's my lover, as it turns out. We snuggle in bed together and read comments from people like you every night before we go to sleep. Nighty night! ❤️
@@MusicMongoose I might have known!
Always upsets me when people classify Buzzcocks, Blondie & the Undertones (and more recently Green Day) as punk. Punk Rock was epitomised by clueless musicians with no skills but plenty of justified rage against the establishment. The bands I just mentioned were (and are) all talented musicians, if a little raw in their earliest days. True, they sorta had the same vibe, but sounded GREAT. But I couldn't (and still can't) stand the bloody Sex Pistols. I don't blame Bev Bevan for throwing shade on the genre back in '81. I mean, just listen to the opening drum flams on Teenage Kicks! Far too 'poncy' for Punk, surely? ;)
Appropriate song as he liked them very young.
Appropriate?
Are you hinting at something Saville-esque?
Much ado about nothing with faces only their mothers could love.
Unlike the catwalk model looks of Rat Scabies etc.