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It drives me mad when DJ's speak over the start of Teenage Kicks on the radio because that riff immediately hits you in the guts & that is what makes it so great! 😊
I seen the the Undertones in 1983 in Northern Ireland in a rural village hall and the brought the house down. I still today buy Denis the menice t-shirts and jackets in tribute to be a teenage Punk. 100% the O Neill brothers carried the band, but Fergal voice was needed. I loved being into Punk music then, now barriers with punk music, you went anywhere when others did not. Thank you Micky, Damian, John, Billy and Feargal and especially Terry. Terry still runs a record shop in Belfast today.. Heroes total heroes..
@@coops1964 true though whether you like it or not lolol….Why so angry,are you another old man who dresses like Dennis The Menace? Or is Batman more your kind of fetish?
I sat next to Fergal in a theatre once. I didn't want to bother him and nobody else did either that I saw. I remember he just stood up when everyone was leaving and just smiled happily whilst waiting for everyone to leave.
It's one of those songs I've just heard too many times (Like This Charming Man and Blue Monday) and resent the attention it receives when they have many other good songs.
Saw them in November 78 just as teenager kicks was released ,also playing that night were the rezillos and a pretty much unknown joy division as support playing their first London gig..All for £1.20
I saw The Undertones perform at a small venue called the Boogie House in Norwich in late 1978, which I believe was one of their first gigs in England. They were absolutely fantastic, and it’s safe to say it was a remarkable and one-of-a-kind show that was met with great enthusiasm. Full of youthful energy and raw talent, we experienced something truly nascent and exceptional that night.
Found the date for you in my cuttings book, it was March 1st 1979 and the 1st date of the UK tour to promote the debut LP. Would have been a great gig.
Teenage Kicks is a bonafide classic that still lives on today and has lost none of it's verve or charm over the years. I have seen so many bands cover it. The punk band I play in do it every gig and even the acoustic duo that I play in with my partner do it. One acoustic guitar and her singing. We play it at every gig and the room ALWAYS lights up and everybody start singing along. An amazing song that has withstood the test of time. As a small aside I saw the Undertones play their first London gig way back in the day, juts as Teenage Kicks was getting radio play. The place was jumping when they came on
In 97 I had just finished building a car, it was made from thin air and junk as I was so poor. eg: The bonnet was made from an old aluminum chip-shop pie counter. I went on to drive this car across the top of the Sahara in 97 (KSK 362) as part of the Liege-Agadir-Liege rally just to prove a point. Anyway, as a result of this making the local papers I was invited to exhibit my car at Alexandra Palace, which was a real honour. After two days I had two memorable encounters there. The first was from a blind man, who after asking for my permission to caress my car, went on to do so for fifteen minutes. At then he wept and said it was the most beautiful car he had ever stroked! The second magic moment was Feargal Sharkey, bold as brass grinned from ear to ear and told me he loved my car and grabbed my hand. We chatted about music and he gave me some advice as I had just started posting demo's of my music then. He kept reminding me that he had retired so I didn't push him nor embarrass myself. Really lovely bloke and probably the only time that I remember being taller than one of my heroes. Wish him all the best. 🇬🇧🎶🇮🇪
Until you've pogoed to it, you won't understand what it was like to hear this blasting out at a 'disco' when it first came out. It still holds that handclapping, guitar bashing, rhythmic and dynamic energy.. from that double drumbeat opening on to the closing sustained end chord. Of course when you are now old, the song is looking back to a time when we were once young.. with growing up pains, and teen 'yearnings' and all.
I met their new singer Paul at a festival, he's a good friend of a friend He introduced himself as "Not Feargal Sharkey" because he's fed up of people saying the words, Despite being in the band longer than "Actual Feargal Sharkey". He was a lovely bloke with many good stories to tell.
John Peel on first hearing Killing joke though they were a wind-up..He though they were session musicians at first as they could play so well..They had rehearsed their songs for about a year before unleashing themselves on the world...They also had record contract issues...But went on to become one of the most original & influential bands on the planet...!
I sent John Peel the debut LP by my mid 90s band Lust In Space, suggesting that since it was recorded in Tasmania it might be the most distant music (from his studio) he'd ever been come across. It seemed to work. he played two songs, I wouldn't have known but got tipped off by someone. I name checked The Undertones in one song which might have helped. Still seems to be the best moment of my life.
@@THEE4DARKESTCORNERZ23 The Lp I sent to peel plus an EP and a Go-Betweens tribute LP. Before that, One Lp and 3 singles with another band.(And a CD for the football team I support)
The picture you kept showing of Billy Doherty is, in fact, a picture of Ciaran McLaughlin (who was later the drummer for That Petrol Emotion). He filled in a few times for the Undertones when Billy Doherty was absent.
@@mrindecisive100 thanks for pointing that out. It seems the place we sourced it from captioned their photo incorrectly, and we mistakenly trusted it! www.musicradar.com/news/i-always-think-this-is-the-closest-anyone-has-ever-come-to-making-the-perfect-record-the-story-of-the-undertones-punk-classic-teenage-kicks
Wow I saw the undertones on video Thought il comment that was John peels favourite song Then I looked at the comments John peel John peel John peel Brilliant 👍
I had a bit of an epiphany about this song years and years after it was released. It sounds upbeat but it's actually a lament. He hasn't actually got the girl and maybe never will. I was thinking quite a bit about Peel's taste in music at around that time. It's often said that JP was ahead of the trends, getting these bands in before they were big and somehow being ahead of the Zeitgeist. So often it's said he had this ability to spot the talent, and that being like, how shall I put it? - good taste in music... the music that matters... that's culturally important? It's generally held that he had this open mind about music and would be able to spot the talent through it's quality above all else. But under analysis that's not actually the case. John Peel did have a particular taste in music and he selected music that responded to his needs. What he chose was very often quite desolate or had elements of catharsis and hinting at an inner devastation. Hardly any of these bands actually caught the public attention in a big way. Sure, they have had a long line of influence, but at any given time it's only a small portion of each successive Generation who take to them. A classic example would be Joy Division. Yes you can say they have reached a hell of a lot of people in their years and influenced a lot of successive music, but in terms of mainstream success most people in the world don't listen to them. I know it's hard to accept, and the temptation is to believe that this is because most music is garbage and only a few of the initiated get to hear the good stuff, but the truth of the matter is, it's a minority taste. Fulfilling?- yes maybe. Makes a good backstory or TV - yes we can probably agree on that. But still only a minority audience in the greater scheme of things.
I didn't really listen to John Peel, the stuff he played didn't really appeal to me at the time.He certainly got it right with this though. What a great song.
The BBC has vastly lowered its standards regarding DJ’s talents, in pursuit of DEI, hence we are given DJ’s that last a couple of years before the BBC has to admit to itself that they aren’t very good and moves them to radio quiet or out of the BBC altogether following constant complaints and poor listening figures.
John Peel…Hurray Jimmy Savile…Booooo Elvis Presley…Hurray Gary Glitter…Booooo Jimmy Page.…Hurray Mad which peados we let off and which ones we dont isnt it.
Er..... What...!?!? WADR..... what YOU think is irrelevant to the discussion....the song is loved by millions, and has become an all time classic of the genre.... .. that's it....!!!
John O'Neill needs his ears testing too then apparently... this is a quote from him: "The demos sounded exactly the same as the tracks that ended up on the finished record,” recalls John O'Neill. "They were just a bit weedier. We couldn't turn up the amps as loud as we wanted to, so they sounded a little weak. The studio at Magee University was really better suited to a person with a keyboard or a rough soundtrack for a short film. It wasn't exactly set up for a band, and although the guy who helped us with it did the best he could, it wasn't an ideal environment. Then again, while we didn't think the demo was all that good, we hoped that if we sent it to people they might see the potential in the songs.”
@@MusicMongoose he probaby does, too. Two peas in a pod. Huh? Snuggled up together, in your dreams?? He's not exactly a muso. Is he? For starters, the demo is significantly faster. Already admitted 'weedier', as in thin. There's at least two points which mean it can't be 'exactly' the same. Are you in love with the bloke, or something? Do you realise how wet a schoolyard defensive reply you supplied here? Incredible! 🫤
Yes, he's my lover, as it turns out. We snuggle in bed together and read comments from people like you every night before we go to sleep. Nighty night! ❤️
As one of the generation mentioned teenage kicks wasnt that popular, John Peel loved it but it wasn't hugely popular, I'm not saying it was a bad song but compared to Clash and Sex Ppistols songs it was nothing special and very few people would have named it as their favourite. John Peel was a bit of strange man he was constantly houng on about the Fall and Mark E Smith and they were absolute garbage the singer could barely. Talk nevermind sing, Peel was also a bog advocate for skinhead music probably the most awful genre ever
Ha!.. Oh, dear.... I think we can safely disregard this utter fool......!?!? People who claim that anything THEY don't like is 'garbage'.....can be ignored with complete confidence, I think.......!
Always upsets me when people classify Buzzcocks, Blondie & the Undertones (and more recently Green Day) as punk. Punk Rock was epitomised by clueless musicians with no skills but plenty of justified rage against the establishment. The bands I just mentioned were (and are) all talented musicians, if a little raw in their earliest days. True, they sorta had the same vibe, but sounded GREAT. But I couldn't (and still can't) stand the bloody Sex Pistols. I don't blame Bev Bevan for throwing shade on the genre back in '81. I mean, just listen to the opening drum flams on Teenage Kicks! Far too 'poncy' for Punk, surely? ;)
Nice try but Buzzcocks Blondie and Undertones were all punk bands, Buzzcocks put Sex Pistols on in Manchester and released one of the first independent singles. Blondie did loads of gigs with The Ramones. So many bands exploded out from 74 to 79, lots of sounds. The Ruts and Clash with a bit of reggae. A state of mind not just a sound.
@@cromptoniser Except that it was a stated fact by many such bands at the time, in many farcical interviews (I was there and I don't - yet - have The Dementia) that the 'democratisation' of musicianship was a core tenet. ie, "we don't need no steenkin skills. Oi! 'Ave a safety pin mate!" Nice try tho! Depends on how you want to characterise Punk. In the UK, where it was 'invented', it was EVERY bit about sloppy guitar playing as it was the anti-establishment rhetoric. XTC were excellent musicians and very very angry young men but 'Punk' meant something very different to the average mosh-pit dweller back then. Loud, bad music and lots of bodily fluids. And a bottling or two would seal the deal.
@@Blitterbug But they were all punk bands let me just add Wire X Dead Kennedys etc. Sure the idea was anyone could get up and do it. In fact I read somewhere Wire were a great post punk band. They were there! Anyway onward.
@@Blitterbug nah impressions at the time and then hindsight, all just opinions, for me The Police were on the bandwagon but the Pretenders were a punk band but their sound moved on like Blondie and The Clash
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It drives me mad when DJ's speak over the start of Teenage Kicks on the radio because that riff immediately hits you in the guts & that is what makes it so great! 😊
In the late 70's, I used to listen to John Peel through a mono earpiece under my blankets at boarding school. Radio has never been better.
John Peel was compulsory listening while I was growing up to become a bass player. There will never be another like him. R.I.P.
Sadly you are probably right, radio now is largely soulless mush
I seen the the Undertones in 1983 in Northern Ireland in a rural village hall and the brought the house down. I still today buy Denis the menice t-shirts and jackets in tribute to be a teenage Punk.
100% the O Neill brothers carried the band, but Fergal voice was needed. I loved being into Punk music then, now barriers with punk music, you went anywhere when others did not.
Thank you Micky, Damian, John, Billy and Feargal and especially Terry. Terry still runs a record shop in Belfast today.. Heroes total heroes..
You went to gigs 40 years ago and you STILL dress like Dennis the Menace??....Tragic.
@@mjh5437 A miserable reply, don't bother next time.
@@coops1964 true though whether you like it or not lolol….Why so angry,are you another old man who dresses like Dennis The Menace? Or is Batman more your kind of fetish?
I sat next to Fergal in a theatre once. I didn't want to bother him and nobody else did either that I saw. I remember he just stood up when everyone was leaving and just smiled happily whilst waiting for everyone to leave.
It's one of those songs I've just heard too many times (Like This Charming Man and Blue Monday) and resent the attention it receives when they have many other good songs.
Saw them in November 78 just as teenager kicks was released ,also playing that night were the rezillos and a pretty much unknown joy division as support playing their first London gig..All for £1.20
I saw The Undertones perform at a small venue called the Boogie House in Norwich in late 1978, which I believe was one of their first gigs in England. They were absolutely fantastic, and it’s safe to say it was a remarkable and one-of-a-kind show that was met with great enthusiasm. Full of youthful energy and raw talent, we experienced something truly nascent and exceptional that night.
That's awesome. I'm so jealous!
Found the date for you in my cuttings book, it was March 1st 1979 and the 1st date of the UK tour to promote the debut LP. Would have been a great gig.
Teenage Kicks is a bonafide classic that still lives on today and has lost none of it's verve or charm over the years. I have seen so many bands cover it. The punk band I play in do it every gig and even the acoustic duo that I play in with my partner do it. One acoustic guitar and her singing. We play it at every gig and the room ALWAYS lights up and everybody start singing along. An amazing song that has withstood the test of time. As a small aside I saw the Undertones play their first London gig way back in the day, juts as Teenage Kicks was getting radio play. The place was jumping when they came on
In 97 I had just finished building a car, it was made from thin air and junk as I was so poor. eg: The bonnet was made from an old aluminum chip-shop pie counter.
I went on to drive this car across the top of the Sahara in 97 (KSK 362) as part of the Liege-Agadir-Liege rally just to prove a point.
Anyway, as a result of this making the local papers I was invited to exhibit my car at Alexandra Palace, which was a real honour.
After two days I had two memorable encounters there. The first was from a blind man, who after asking for my permission to caress my car, went on to do so for fifteen minutes. At then he wept and said it was the most beautiful car he had ever stroked!
The second magic moment was Feargal Sharkey, bold as brass grinned from ear to ear and told me he loved my car and grabbed my hand. We chatted about music and he gave me some advice as I had just started posting demo's of my music then. He kept reminding me that he had retired so I didn't push him nor embarrass myself.
Really lovely bloke and probably the only time that I remember being taller than one of my heroes.
Wish him all the best. 🇬🇧🎶🇮🇪
The band gave John peel the original written lyrics which reduced peel to tears.
Wow, didn't know that. Thanks for sharing!
Until you've pogoed to it, you won't understand what it was like to hear this blasting out at a 'disco' when it first came out. It still holds that handclapping, guitar bashing, rhythmic and dynamic energy.. from that double drumbeat opening on to the closing sustained end chord. Of course when you are now old, the song is looking back to a time when we were once young.. with growing up pains, and teen 'yearnings' and all.
John Peel is probably the most influencial man in British music, his radio show was a regular for me as I was growing up
Great breakdown! Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
hey mr behs
I met their new singer Paul at a festival, he's a good friend of a friend He introduced himself as "Not Feargal Sharkey" because he's fed up of people saying the words, Despite being in the band longer than "Actual Feargal Sharkey". He was a lovely bloke with many good stories to tell.
That's lovely to hear! Glad he was a nice guy
You earned a subscriber. STOP MAKING ME FEEL OLD. Thanks, buddy
Welcome aboard!
Think I have that Peelsession somewhere in my LP collection! Loved it! Still does, but haven’t played it for ages
John Peel on first hearing Killing joke though they were a wind-up..He though they were session musicians at first as they could play so well..They had rehearsed their songs for about a year before unleashing themselves on the world...They also had record contract issues...But went on to become one of the most original & influential bands on the planet...!
And still makes amazing music!
@RocketSailing Sadly with the passing of Geordie they'll never be Killing joke again...😪
I sent John Peel the debut LP by my mid 90s band Lust In Space, suggesting that since it was recorded in Tasmania it might be the most distant music (from his studio) he'd ever been come across. It seemed to work. he played two songs, I wouldn't have known but got tipped off by someone. I name checked The Undertones in one song which might have helped. Still seems to be the best moment of my life.
Did you release anything? ❤
@@THEE4DARKESTCORNERZ23 The Lp I sent to peel plus an EP and a Go-Betweens tribute LP. Before that, One Lp and 3 singles with another band.(And a CD for the football team I support)
@@Michael-te6ly any links to you're music?
@@THEE4DARKESTCORNERZ23 ruclips.net/video/AnKaN0naOAw/видео.html From 1994
Great story!
For me their best song was Get Over You
I was at the Marquee when they played there. I think it was their second mainland gig. I bought Feargal a Guinness. Didn't get one back.
The picture you kept showing of Billy Doherty is, in fact, a picture of Ciaran McLaughlin (who was later the drummer for That Petrol Emotion). He filled in a few times for the Undertones when Billy Doherty was absent.
@@mrindecisive100 thanks for pointing that out. It seems the place we sourced it from captioned their photo incorrectly, and we mistakenly trusted it!
www.musicradar.com/news/i-always-think-this-is-the-closest-anyone-has-ever-come-to-making-the-perfect-record-the-story-of-the-undertones-punk-classic-teenage-kicks
@@MusicMongoose No probs. Trust the internet at your peril!
Stiff little fingers were one of the Undertones rivals, also Irish and much more popular
Just subscribed, excellent video
Welcome aboard!
Kildare is not in Northern Ireland...hmmm. Was at that gig in Punchestown- great day out. Liked the vid - thanks.
My bad. Good spot!
This song inspired me to play football after dusk in the backyard when I was 13.
Wow I saw the undertones on video
Thought il comment that was John peels favourite song
Then I looked at the comments
John peel
John peel
John peel
Brilliant 👍
John Peel was also a very good friend of Marc Bolan who had a hit with Teenage Dream.
It's a classic it would definitely be in my top 100 Punk songs of all time
what's #1?
I always found it a bit monotonous to be honest,Undertones made a lot better imo.
@@ExcaliburDawn yeah I agree I like Here comes the summer better
@@Unfunny_Username_389 I haven't made a list
@@garyrigby21 speculate
Pogo has given me arthritis, but worth it
Joined
… and now the latest and best album by The Fall
Ah the cousins Damien and John!!!
Why did it appeal to Peel?🤣
To me, teenage kicks sound like a song in an alternative universe that the who would have recorded in the sixties.
I had a bit of an epiphany about this song years and years after it was released. It sounds upbeat but it's actually a lament. He hasn't actually got the girl and maybe never will. I was thinking quite a bit about Peel's taste in music at around that time. It's often said that JP was ahead of the trends, getting these bands in before they were big and somehow being ahead of the Zeitgeist. So often it's said he had this ability to spot the talent, and that being like, how shall I put it? - good taste in music... the music that matters... that's culturally important? It's generally held that he had this open mind about music and would be able to spot the talent through it's quality above all else. But under analysis that's not actually the case. John Peel did have a particular taste in music and he selected music that responded to his needs. What he chose was very often quite desolate or had elements of catharsis and hinting at an inner devastation.
Hardly any of these bands actually caught the public attention in a big way. Sure, they have had a long line of influence, but at any given time it's only a small portion of each successive Generation who take to them. A classic example would be Joy Division. Yes you can say they have reached a hell of a lot of people in their years and influenced a lot of successive music, but in terms of mainstream success most people in the world don't listen to them. I know it's hard to accept, and the temptation is to believe that this is because most music is garbage and only a few of the initiated get to hear the good stuff, but the truth of the matter is, it's a minority taste. Fulfilling?- yes maybe. Makes a good backstory or TV - yes we can probably agree on that. But still only a minority audience in the greater scheme of things.
Ah Shutupa yer face!(No 1 if you remember).....Actually that's me agreeing with you
Believe it or not but I used to buy fruit and veg from the O’Neill brothers in a tiny shop on Derrys bishop street.
It’s got 4 chords D, Bminor, G and A
Was a teen when it came out but it really never spoke to me. I love John Peel and it’s a good song, but it really “ain’t all that”.
I didn't really listen to John Peel, the stuff he played didn't really appeal to me at the time.He certainly got it right with this though. What a great song.
The BBC has vastly lowered its standards regarding DJ’s talents, in pursuit of DEI, hence we are given DJ’s that last a couple of years before the BBC has to admit to itself that they aren’t very good and moves them to radio quiet or out of the BBC altogether following constant complaints and poor listening figures.
Feargal I’ve got 385,000 MP3s I’d like to share with you.
That's not Billy Doherty!???
what's Feargal doing?
John Peel…Hurray
Jimmy Savile…Booooo
Elvis Presley…Hurray
Gary Glitter…Booooo
Jimmy Page.…Hurray
Mad which peados we let off and which ones we dont isnt it.
Pete Townshend, Mick Jagger,etc
You could argue there's just a TINY difference between Peel and Saville... don't you think.....!?!?
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Kiddy poking is kiddy poking is kiddy poking is kiddy poking 👍🏼
Of course it falied in the US... we have shit taste as a nation... lol The Undertones are one of my all time favorites.
Not a mention about the lyrics? Bit of a miss surely 😮
Everyone from that era knows about the lyrics and their meaning.
That is NOT Billy Doherty!!!
I liked „my perfect cousin“ more.
Great tune
Goodness me John has been gone for 20 YEARS!!! that's CRAZY!! where the hell has that time gone 😳😳😳😳😳
It's just nothing. It was Okay for a time. I liked it then. I liked it when. So stupid how we want to make such confections classic.
Er..... What...!?!?
WADR..... what YOU think is irrelevant to the discussion....the song is loved by millions, and has become an all time classic of the genre....
.. that's it....!!!
Iconic record.But not a big hit at all at the time.Popular music taste is weird.
I think John Peel dodged a bullet dying when he did. I think they would’ve come for him.
They?
@@colincampbell4261 Operation Yewtree.
I think?
I don't think Peel had any Saville leanings, if that's your infering
@@jonathansteadman7935 There were accusations from a woman that he got her pregnant. She was 15 at the time.
If you think the early demo sounds almost the same as the final recorded version, you need your ears testing!!!
John O'Neill needs his ears testing too then apparently... this is a quote from him:
"The demos sounded exactly the same as the tracks that ended up on the finished record,” recalls John O'Neill. "They were just a bit weedier. We couldn't turn up the amps as loud as we wanted to, so they sounded a little weak. The studio at Magee University was really better suited to a person with a keyboard or a rough soundtrack for a short film. It wasn't exactly set up for a band, and although the guy who helped us with it did the best he could, it wasn't an ideal environment. Then again, while we didn't think the demo was all that good, we hoped that if we sent it to people they might see the potential in the songs.”
@@MusicMongoose he probaby does, too. Two peas in a pod. Huh? Snuggled up together, in your dreams?? He's not exactly a muso. Is he? For starters, the demo is significantly faster. Already admitted 'weedier', as in thin. There's at least two points which mean it can't be 'exactly' the same. Are you in love with the bloke, or something? Do you realise how wet a schoolyard defensive reply you supplied here? Incredible! 🫤
Yes, he's my lover, as it turns out. We snuggle in bed together and read comments from people like you every night before we go to sleep. Nighty night! ❤️
@@MusicMongoose I might have known!
As one of the generation mentioned teenage kicks wasnt that popular, John Peel loved it but it wasn't hugely popular, I'm not saying it was a bad song but compared to Clash and Sex Ppistols songs it was nothing special and very few people would have named it as their favourite. John Peel was a bit of strange man he was constantly houng on about the Fall and Mark E Smith and they were absolute garbage the singer could barely. Talk nevermind sing, Peel was also a bog advocate for skinhead music probably the most awful genre ever
Ha!.. Oh, dear.... I think we can safely disregard this utter fool......!?!?
People who claim that anything THEY don't like is 'garbage'.....can be ignored with complete confidence, I think.......!
Appropriate song as he liked them very young.
Appropriate?
Are you hinting at something Saville-esque?
Always upsets me when people classify Buzzcocks, Blondie & the Undertones (and more recently Green Day) as punk. Punk Rock was epitomised by clueless musicians with no skills but plenty of justified rage against the establishment. The bands I just mentioned were (and are) all talented musicians, if a little raw in their earliest days. True, they sorta had the same vibe, but sounded GREAT. But I couldn't (and still can't) stand the bloody Sex Pistols. I don't blame Bev Bevan for throwing shade on the genre back in '81. I mean, just listen to the opening drum flams on Teenage Kicks! Far too 'poncy' for Punk, surely? ;)
Nice try but Buzzcocks Blondie and Undertones were all punk bands, Buzzcocks put Sex Pistols on in Manchester and released one of the first independent singles. Blondie did loads of gigs with The Ramones. So many bands exploded out from 74 to 79, lots of sounds. The Ruts and Clash with a bit of reggae. A state of mind not just a sound.
@@cromptoniser Except that it was a stated fact by many such bands at the time, in many farcical interviews (I was there and I don't - yet - have The Dementia) that the 'democratisation' of musicianship was a core tenet. ie, "we don't need no steenkin skills. Oi! 'Ave a safety pin mate!" Nice try tho! Depends on how you want to characterise Punk. In the UK, where it was 'invented', it was EVERY bit about sloppy guitar playing as it was the anti-establishment rhetoric. XTC were excellent musicians and very very angry young men but 'Punk' meant something very different to the average mosh-pit dweller back then. Loud, bad music and lots of bodily fluids. And a bottling or two would seal the deal.
@@Blitterbug But they were all punk bands let me just add Wire X Dead Kennedys etc. Sure the idea was anyone could get up and do it. In fact I read somewhere Wire were a great post punk band. They were there! Anyway onward.
@@cromptoniser Guess I got a stick up my fundament about bad musicianship, huh?
@@Blitterbug nah impressions at the time and then hindsight, all just opinions, for me The Police were on the bandwagon but the Pretenders were a punk band but their sound moved on like Blondie and The Clash
Much ado about nothing with faces only their mothers could love.
Unlike the catwalk model looks of Rat Scabies etc.