So first thing's first, very little has changed. I'm slightly annoyed that Big Spell Mage is basically nearly as good, but it was to be expected. I am pretty tired of seeing insanity and pain lock though. For as annoying as mage is, at least that deck is new. Dying to crescendo and flame imps until 2025 is beyond aggravating
I've been playing Coin Rogue with the excavate package from D5 to Legend, it was a pretty fun deck, not the most effective but you can win games with both Wishing Well or the excavate.
I am a little overwhelmed after returning to hearthstone after a long break, the most annoying cards are those weird ass looking minions without any text below them.
Whats crazy is the set was actually good before the mini set it felts really balanced other then all the new agro tools but agro always feels bad to play against
I just rejoined Hearthstone after god knows how long -can this go on- and decided to play as overheal priest and I’m not going to lie, it’s funny to play the deck and see the comebacks.
Reno Shaman and Paladin are olso good with a lot of control tools. Reno Mage is decent. Ther are more viabile control decks there. I talking about wild.
It wouldn't change a thing. Just like it didn't change a thing when they actually added deck codes (They weren't always a thing in the game) People simply manually copied the deck lists before.
It's one of those decks that keeps coming back every now and then. As it is now, it doesn't die to DH (all of the time) and has tech to counter decks that can also beat DH (Mage) so its found a spot.
I believe in his video yesterday, he said there’s a bug that won’t refund you the entire value. Or in your case, at all. Blizzard will address it… hopefully.
I fire some misses, but when Mutanus the Devourer and Aman Thul were in prerelease, I picked them both as broken cards. Aman Thul just unbelievably ridiculous, best card in the set by far. I have to say Mutanus got played even more than I thought it would, thinking it would only/mostly be played in a certain style of control deck. I rated them both higher than anyone else. Aman Thul still seems unreal. Perhaps priest is kinda weak in other ways or something.
Well there are alot of ways the best is to as you buy cards from the current standard sets when they get nerfed you get dust. Secondly each pack has duplicate protection so one u have all commens and rare ul start to build up dust that goes to disenchant extra but you should wait untill cards gets nerfed before you do that but its up to you if u want to use or feel the cards r safe and wont get nerfed. Another way is when a standard rotates to wild you can dust all those cards for free dust unless you plan on playing wild. The last one might make more sense if there certain classes you dont play dust those classes when their sets rotate to wild and those classes become your dust bank. Here is another suggestion it could be wort it but every expensive the first 10 packs of every expansion that have u never opened every important wil always have a legend in the first 10 So u if you buy a golden pack from a pack thats only in wild like the frozen throne in the first 10 you will get golden legendary that disenchats for 1600 dust however u might have to spend alot of gold as the downside.
Scam Mage is so strong that a dirty rat pulled my Portalmancer he emoted me, I got a bunch of coins played a Tsunami on Turn 6 into Conman and the guy was just dead lol
I went from Bronze to Diamond 2 with my Homebrew XL Big Beast Hunter and had a win rate of over 70% in the wild. only loses to demon seeds and some priests, which are really rarely seen on EU. There are clearly more good decks in wild right now.
Any aggro deck wins, I've been memeing with treant druid, clowns. Any deck that wins beyond turn 4-5 still loses though. Meta is one of the most stale and lame I've seen, and I've been playing since the beginning. Someone else said it best, kudos to blizzard for making the first multiplayer game where you don't interact with your opponent at all.
>complains about cancer decks >recommends them eyeroll, I'll say it again, there are better card games, I'd love to see your enthusiasm for HS on a game that deserves it Mr. Zed.
I mean... People literally ask him "What are the best deck to get Legend with?" all the time. Making a video where he covers them is literally what some people want (People who apparently don't have access to Google to go to the exact same sites Zeddy does to get all the information about deck statistics...) His thoughts about the overall meta is inconsequential to making the content that some people actually want to see.
@@ep69420 He should show it a bit more then. Maybe spread a bit of positivity, because there is an awful lot atm. Make videos on how great it is you can play any class and do well instead of crying that Chillwind Yeti isn’t good enough anymore.
I've come to the realization that I'm just not good at this game. I'm F2P but only play Mage so I have all the mage cards for standard. I've been stuck, with my little homebrew spell deck, at Diamond 5. I tried to get past it with the big over-powered mage everyone complains about ... but nope. I must not be very good at this game.
The meta is warped around that deck so you are probably facing a lot of counters. With that said I've had the same experience many times. Back when naga priest was a thing and won the Masters tour, I tried to hit legend with it. Grinded, came close, got stuck, didn't make it.
This game is stupid. We have new sets and still hs replay most succesfull decks atm are buff pally, elemage and painlock.... Also big spell mage. Wat to go blizzard.
Same decks for month. Thats why Heartstone just sucks. Other Game got more Balance patches to change metas. Heartstone give us new cards Nerf everthing with +1 Mana and thats it. Nothing changes. What a Low Budget sh*t Company. They just do nothing. Whats the Point playing the same decks for Months? How fking boring
I feel bad for you man, so much enthusiasm, for a great game. But, it's shiet now. Famous streamers fighting for top 100, highrolling. Game is all about highrolling, weird and random stuff happens. Blizzard "nerfed" big spell mage? I don't think it's a nerf by making skyla 1 more mana. Meta decks are random, and dual class is a joke. Every class has everything, armor heal random spam. Discovering infinite bullshiet. Remember the days back in Miracle Rogue? See how this looks now, you can hit legend easily. Even without hands, or game knowledge. Games are unplayable, legend is full of random reno variations, and non existent decks, but they still manage to win. Cards like Marin, and cliff dive etc... All dog shiet.
@@tarille1043 he still managed to complain about sonya somehow, and then he later complained about meta decks that are low skillcap, as if he wouldnt absolutely hate a high skillcap meta where cards like sonya shine
@@DaXurk I have to point out that yea, that echo chamber sentiment is pretty lame, but I will admit when rogue's good, it tends to be broken. And that's 100% on the designers and lack of playtesting, not on rogue players or competitive players in general. I do feel shadowstep at least should get rotated, just because it's tired and I'd like to see rogue do something else. It is absolutely overall by far the worst class in the game rn though.
your wild evaluation is so off.. general concensus is that its one of the most balanced wild metas ever and you can play pretty much anything you want.. prominent wild players have voiced even being scared for this to change with the next patch. i am not prominent but i too cherish this meta. last tempostorm wild meta report has 6 reno decks in tier 2... dont you keep complaining about a lack of control in standard?? well why dont you actually try playing wild.. for real though and if you are not going to spend enough time on wild, you might as well not cover it and at least not talk it down like you seem to every deck review for a while now or inform yourself better stay salty
Ive never really stopped playing because of the meta, but this one is trash. They should just remove the mage deck, literally cant do anything against it if they have a decent hand
Can’t wait! There must be a huge shift after the nerfs! 😂
"A huge shift"
I think you added an extra F there...
I think it’s fine that it’s relatively the same
I think the big shaman was the biggest emergence but wasn’t even related to any of the buffs or nerfs. Just a new discovery of a deck that works well
Spoilers: it’s the same decks as before 😂
did u watch the video
@@Ocarus0Cycle Did u? they are basically the same decks with just 1 or 2 cards switched out to be more optimal
@@TheMikeTrumpet read the comment again
@@Ocarus0Cycle what are you implying?
@@TheMikeTrumpet they aren’t the same decks as before
So first thing's first, very little has changed. I'm slightly annoyed that Big Spell Mage is basically nearly as good, but it was to be expected. I am pretty tired of seeing insanity and pain lock though. For as annoying as mage is, at least that deck is new. Dying to crescendo and flame imps until 2025 is beyond aggravating
mech rogue and mech warrior of all things actually have a decent win rate right now, like mid T2 which is great for anyone who likes their playstyle
I've been playing Coin Rogue with the excavate package from D5 to Legend, it was a pretty fun deck, not the most effective but you can win games with both Wishing Well or the excavate.
Funki Monki made that exact new secret token hunter deck in a video a few days ago! :) shoutout to him
I haven’t played hs in maybe month and I literally requested top deck vid on yesterdays video lol. Great to see the meta switch up!
I am a little overwhelmed after returning to hearthstone after a long break, the most annoying cards are those weird ass looking minions without any text below them.
Whats crazy is the set was actually good before the mini set it felts really balanced other then all the new agro tools but agro always feels bad to play against
I just rejoined Hearthstone after god knows how long -can this go on- and decided to play as overheal priest and I’m not going to lie, it’s funny to play the deck and see the comebacks.
Reno Shaman and Paladin are olso good with a lot of control tools. Reno Mage is decent. Ther are more viabile control decks there. I talking about wild.
So pain or insanity warlock?who better?
I've always wondered what HS would be like without deck codes. Maybe it would be more diverse as people would throw in a few different cards,
It wouldn't change a thing. Just like it didn't change a thing when they actually added deck codes (They weren't always a thing in the game)
People simply manually copied the deck lists before.
-1 robocaller +1 griftah for the guys wanting to play pipsi
its goated
I did a double take when I heard "early access legendary" thought you were talking about the likes of Corridor Creeper
Seeing that the only Wild control deck is a pile of tech cards just kinda stapled to a Raza Priest core is hilarious to me.
It's one of those decks that keeps coming back every now and then.
As it is now, it doesn't die to DH (all of the time) and has tech to counter decks that can also beat DH (Mage) so its found a spot.
i just restart play now after 2y. What can i build? some solid shit. i got like 30k dust
Why is metamorphosis in the pirate demon hunter deck full serious?
are you able to dust signature skyla? hasn't worked for me at all wondering if it is a bug
I believe in his video yesterday, he said there’s a bug that won’t refund you the entire value. Or in your case, at all. Blizzard will address it… hopefully.
That mech on the thumbnail is kinda hot, NGL
12:08 what happened to rogue? It was the best class for so long. I hate secret passage nerf so much.
Clearly Shadowstep needs to be nerfed. It's apparently the most broken card to ever exist and is hard carrying Rogue in S++ Tier at all ranks /s
@@tarille1043 sure bud
I fire some misses, but when Mutanus the Devourer and Aman Thul were in prerelease, I picked them both as broken cards. Aman Thul just unbelievably ridiculous, best card in the set by far. I have to say Mutanus got played even more than I thought it would, thinking it would only/mostly be played in a certain style of control deck. I rated them both higher than anyone else. Aman Thul still seems unreal. Perhaps priest is kinda weak in other ways or something.
we are playing same decks for 6 months now
New player, whats the best way to get dust to craft Epic cards?
Well there are alot of ways the best is to as you buy cards from the current standard sets when they get nerfed you get dust.
Secondly each pack has duplicate protection so one u have all commens and rare ul start to build up dust that goes to disenchant extra but you should wait untill cards gets nerfed before you do that but its up to you if u want to use or feel the cards r safe and wont get nerfed.
Another way is when a standard rotates to wild you can dust all those cards for free dust unless you plan on playing wild.
The last one might make more sense if there certain classes you dont play dust those classes when their sets rotate to wild and those classes become your dust bank.
Here is another suggestion it could be wort it but every expensive the first 10 packs of every expansion that have u never opened every important wil always have a legend in the first 10
So u if you buy a golden pack from a pack thats only in wild like the frozen throne in the first 10 you will get golden legendary that disenchats for 1600 dust however u might have to spend alot of gold as the downside.
@@earlrufussimpson1947 So buy golden Frozen throne packs for big profit?
Why not play wild instead ? I enjoyed going legendary with reno hunter, a pirate warrior, plus a little new demon hunter pirate priest..
If anything can give you depression just by looking at it, it's the wild meta tier list.
Scam Mage is so strong that a dirty rat pulled my Portalmancer he emoted me, I got a bunch of coins played a Tsunami on Turn 6 into Conman and the guy was just dead lol
Hearing an ex-quest mage player calling anything toxic always sounds wierd to me
but "druid and priest evil >:("
>neither anywhere to be seen in the meta
I went from Bronze to Diamond 2 with my Homebrew XL Big Beast Hunter and had a win rate of over 70% in the wild. only loses to demon seeds and some priests, which are really rarely seen on EU. There are clearly more good decks in wild right now.
for the next expansion hunter will finally going to get broken cards
pls blizzard
🙅 Spoiler blocker 🙅
Oh wait...
Guilty of spamming demon sees lock lol
Amatist is op
man the big mage deck didn't get nerfed at all its ruining the game
Any aggro deck wins, I've been memeing with treant druid, clowns. Any deck that wins beyond turn 4-5 still loses though. Meta is one of the most stale and lame I've seen, and I've been playing since the beginning. Someone else said it best, kudos to blizzard for making the first multiplayer game where you don't interact with your opponent at all.
@@ep69420 yeah true
>complains about cancer decks
>recommends them
eyeroll, I'll say it again, there are better card games, I'd love to see your enthusiasm for HS on a game that deserves it Mr. Zed.
He has no enthusiasm it’s just toxicity.
I mean... People literally ask him "What are the best deck to get Legend with?" all the time. Making a video where he covers them is literally what some people want (People who apparently don't have access to Google to go to the exact same sites Zeddy does to get all the information about deck statistics...)
His thoughts about the overall meta is inconsequential to making the content that some people actually want to see.
@@tarille1043 I don't disagree, just throwing my also inconsequential opinion out there.
@@francisedwards8786 You can say alot about Zeddy but you can't say he doesn't fucking love the game.
@@ep69420 He should show it a bit more then. Maybe spread a bit of positivity, because there is an awful lot atm. Make videos on how great it is you can play any class and do well instead of crying that Chillwind Yeti isn’t good enough anymore.
I've come to the realization that I'm just not good at this game.
I'm F2P but only play Mage so I have all the mage cards for standard.
I've been stuck, with my little homebrew spell deck, at Diamond 5.
I tried to get past it with the big over-powered mage everyone complains about ... but nope.
I must not be very good at this game.
If you can’t win with Big Spell Mage, it’s a serious skill issue.
The meta is warped around that deck so you are probably facing a lot of counters. With that said I've had the same experience many times. Back when naga priest was a thing and won the Masters tour, I tried to hit legend with it. Grinded, came close, got stuck, didn't make it.
@@cuihenggang
1) I feel like that's what I said
2) thanks?
Legend with Handbuff Deathrattle Death Knight, no list online. A lot more fun then this stupid meta xd
This game is stupid. We have new sets and still hs replay most succesfull decks atm are buff pally, elemage and painlock.... Also big spell mage. Wat to go blizzard.
Same decks for month. Thats why Heartstone just sucks. Other Game got more Balance patches to change metas. Heartstone give us new cards Nerf everthing with +1 Mana and thats it. Nothing changes. What a Low Budget sh*t Company. They just do nothing. Whats the Point playing the same decks for Months? How fking boring
Big spell mage is dead what else were you expecting
@@Begeru Big Mage is dead? What game have you been playing?
Ofc first🎉
I feel bad for you man, so much enthusiasm, for a great game. But, it's shiet now. Famous streamers fighting for top 100, highrolling. Game is all about highrolling, weird and random stuff happens. Blizzard "nerfed" big spell mage? I don't think it's a nerf by making skyla 1 more mana. Meta decks are random, and dual class is a joke. Every class has everything, armor heal random spam. Discovering infinite bullshiet. Remember the days back in Miracle Rogue? See how this looks now, you can hit legend easily. Even without hands, or game knowledge. Games are unplayable, legend is full of random reno variations, and non existent decks, but they still manage to win. Cards like Marin, and cliff dive etc... All dog shiet.
who knew rng is in an rng game :OO
Man move on from HS if you're tired of the neglect from the devs.
Well, I guess gambling addiction is a thing, so nvm.
druid no where near the meta, let's see how long it takes the zedmaster to say something about it anyway.
Inb4 Zaldo asks for Rogue nerfs despite being the literal worst class in the entire game right now.
@@tarille1043 he still managed to complain about sonya somehow, and then he later complained about meta decks that are low skillcap, as if he wouldnt absolutely hate a high skillcap meta where cards like sonya shine
@@DaXurk I have to point out that yea, that echo chamber sentiment is pretty lame, but I will admit when rogue's good, it tends to be broken. And that's 100% on the designers and lack of playtesting, not on rogue players or competitive players in general. I do feel shadowstep at least should get rotated, just because it's tired and I'd like to see rogue do something else. It is absolutely overall by far the worst class in the game rn though.
@@tarille1043rogue could have 0% winrate and Zeddy would still ask for shadows nerfs lmao
Ive been playing against druid 70% of the time. you must just suck at the deck (legend 3000-5000)
Blood DK is the most stupid most annoying deck to play against! Man im so frustrated after last game
your wild evaluation is so off..
general concensus is that its one of the most balanced wild metas ever and you can play pretty much anything you want.. prominent wild players have voiced even being scared for this to change with the next patch. i am not prominent but i too cherish this meta.
last tempostorm wild meta report has 6 reno decks in tier 2... dont you keep complaining about a lack of control in standard?? well why dont you actually try playing wild.. for real though
and if you are not going to spend enough time on wild, you might as well not cover it and at least not talk it down like you seem to every deck review for a while now
or inform yourself better
stay salty
I think you need a break for HS, I don’t think you’re having fun anymore.
Ive never really stopped playing because of the meta, but this one is trash. They should just remove the mage deck, literally cant do anything against it if they have a decent hand
Sounds like you suck at the game so you want something removed so you feel better about yourself
that's not really true unless you play a deck that sits on its hands until turn 6 while not being controlling enough to stabilize later