Why League in 2024 NEEDS VOICE CHAT

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    Why League in 2024 NEEDS VOICE CHAT
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  • @jerrygonzalez1200
    @jerrygonzalez1200 Месяц назад +36

    Watching nid, and playing nid are way different. I see it done and think i could pull that off and cant jump over the wall.

    • @BroxahLoL
      @BroxahLoL  Месяц назад +19

      Practice makes perfect. You got this, I believe in you!

  • @lukeh1102
    @lukeh1102 Месяц назад +16

    I feel like so much of the toxicity in League comes from miscommunication and not having voice chat, mostly players attempting something that requires the help of a teammate but just not being on the same page and then getting upset and blaming each other when it doesn't work out and then it just becomes a competition of who can be more annoying. If I could just discuss our options with my teammates I feel like it would prevent so much conflict. being able to say things like "I can't gank bot right now without ruining my tempo, give me 30 seconds and I'll be there", "If I see a good engage opportunity here I'm taking it, be ready to follow", or "we're really over extending here, lets back up" would help a lot. Also a lot of people just immediately write their teammates off as useless bots that can't do anything, hearing someone's voice and ideas is a good reminder that they are human and can be worked with.

    • @HonouredGames435
      @HonouredGames435 Месяц назад +1

      Well said.

    • @NushiSama
      @NushiSama Месяц назад +6

      I 100% believe every voice chat will be like a MW2 lobby back in the day
      League players are toxic now imagine giving them another tool in the tool box to flame people with lol
      I wish you were right but

    • @Merowinger100
      @Merowinger100 Месяц назад +3

      @@NushiSama Of course people would flame each other in voice aswell but I think it wont be nearly as much as in textchat (and through ingame actions like pings and trolling). Especially because then you just mute them and only communicate with the rest and many ppl dont have the balls to speak and you can back up each other, if someone is talking trash.
      However, I dont want it aswell for soloqueue, because I think this will change how soloqueue is played completely. (I mean you could implement it in flexqueue or another mode.)
      Teams that dont use voicechat because the people simply dont want to have a disadvantage and the whole community and ranks would change, how the game is played and what you need to do and know. All people will play much better with time, because they all get better understanding for other roles and insights. And you have to consider that the enemies also have voice, which means that its harder for you to make special plays and punish certain mistakes. Maybe it would be good for less flaming or also in generell for the game but right now I dont see it, especially because 90% of the community is low elo from where you can normally easy escape. If they have not reached Dia yet, it wont change it when theyve got voicechat, because they simply dont understand the fundamentals of the game and the higherelo-people would have voicechat too (and would be better then with that logic).

    • @grimdeathkid
      @grimdeathkid Месяц назад +1

      ​@@Merowinger100if they brought in voice chat every 5th game would just be " ugh support not on mic I'm just going to troll guys"
      Which is the exact experience you have on valorant 🤷‍♂️
      It won't improve the game in any meaningful way.

  • @imp_mane
    @imp_mane Месяц назад +9

    I say this with 100% confidence that I will not be taken seriously; if NA had voice chat in game with all players at all times available, the playerbase would become exponentially better, and smaller. The player base thrives with ignorance as a weapon. That is the whole point of league. It is like an exploration of the mind. To communicate properly, the player base must take the game and communication seriously. This amounts to many people quitting due to insecurity, and as such those who remain are not players they would lose either way. It's a net loss because of the psychology of league's playerbase (at least in the server I experience, NA)

    • @BamItsHazel
      @BamItsHazel Месяц назад

      Another possibility is that people play LoL because of their competitive drive to get better. Those playing for fun and with ignorance probably belongs in normals, or silver and below. Adding voice chat adds a new dimension of skill in terms of actual shotcalling, communication and teamplay. It'll lessen the lol is toxic stereotype and entice more people to join with their friend. I'm sure plats and above (top 20%) or something play to improve, and not just for fun. Most playing to improve would probably love voice chat. If people likes to play for fun in silver and below, then could just set voice chat in Plat and above. Voice chat could even be seen as a prestige thing that comes with ranking up, just like borders.

    • @imp_mane
      @imp_mane Месяц назад

      @@BamItsHazel fair

  • @paulmartin2348
    @paulmartin2348 Месяц назад

    Zoning spears for DAYSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! (just teasing you man, well done) 😁

  • @Mordikay211
    @Mordikay211 Месяц назад +2

    What happened to carrying with Heimer jungle?

  • @jamesandersen8635
    @jamesandersen8635 Месяц назад +3

    Bad idea i play with friends and sometimes we have to invite randoms 50% of the time the people we invite to discord last about 3 mins they come in yelling and screaming making annoying noises and will purposely throw games if shit don't go 100% the player base is like little children

  • @GGson123
    @GGson123 Месяц назад

    Well played, as always. Anyone know the name of the banger song at the start? Always see it on Broxah's videos but could never find it.

  • @todorkrastev3846
    @todorkrastev3846 Месяц назад

    1st min Alistar: Veni Vidi Vici! and left :D

  • @yatrickhathelegend
    @yatrickhathelegend Месяц назад +2

    PLEASE ADD VOICE CHAT ITS THE MISCOMMUNICATION PLEASE RIOT PLEASE THAT WILL SOLVE THE PROBLEM AND MAKE THE GAME LIT AND IT WILL BE GREAT TO HAVE FUNNY STREAM CONTENT

  • @SACPOLITICZ
    @SACPOLITICZ Месяц назад

    If they do add vc it would need to be heavily monitored and or locked until certain requirements are met, if you've played literally any other major comp pc title you know vc in lower ranks is used for trash talking/trolling majority of the time.

  • @VchaosV07
    @VchaosV07 Месяц назад

    Broxah playing with the great Kylian Mbappe, what an honor

  • @albertjonas5675
    @albertjonas5675 Месяц назад

    Saying that LOL needs voice chat becouse of consistent Baron calls is like saying we should spray gasoline everywhere, because then it would be easier to light barbeques.

  • @scales8768
    @scales8768 Месяц назад

    13:33 Kylian Mbappe is on rampage.

  • @madishaiken2525
    @madishaiken2525 Месяц назад

    That alistar :D

  • @schmidth
    @schmidth Месяц назад +1

    I'll return if they implement voice chat

    • @daxxx9366
      @daxxx9366 Месяц назад +1

      I play maybe once a month now. If they brought in vc I would either auto mute or not pick it back up

    • @schmidth
      @schmidth Месяц назад +1

      @@daxxx9366 well what's the issue? Literally just mute, it's the exact same as now where you can mute chat if you balls haven't dropped yet.

  • @drona9974
    @drona9974 Месяц назад

    Doubt that voicechat will change much. The Aatrox has made it to GM without understanding map macro at the level you have. He knows he can outplay people in teamfights, but doesn't understand how that converts into objectives. And while playing with one of the best junglers on the planet, he doesn't think about how to learn more about the game. I think voicechat would lead to arguments, not a deeper understanding of the game.

  • @hyun4518
    @hyun4518 Месяц назад +1

    u want the feature until u have it trust if its anything like valorant vc u will perma muteall

    • @polylolhihi4143
      @polylolhihi4143 Месяц назад

      If you have played valorant you have probably played cs. The game just needs the auto mute system.

  • @404Kiwi
    @404Kiwi Месяц назад

    you can tell that aatrox has main character syndrome, wouldn't want to see how he plays from behind

  • @dl3316
    @dl3316 Месяц назад

    Didn't there used to be a third party voip app? I remember it being pretty toxic lol

  • @user-dx2ty1ph4r
    @user-dx2ty1ph4r Месяц назад

    Zoning diff

  • @polylolhihi4143
    @polylolhihi4143 Месяц назад +2

    It's legit mind blowing that the game has no VC. As a cs player I couldn't imagine playing a single game in high elo without comms. The argument of community is too toxic is a not very valid point, because nothing stops the league community from telling random teammates daily to buy a rope or to get cancer currently. They can just implement systems like in CS where someone who has been detected as toxic gets auto muted when the game starts, and it is then up to his teammates to unmute him. Now without going on a rant too big the biggest issue that I have with the current system is that WAYYY too many people are chat banned, because its the only source of communication. The result of this is a wayyyy to large sum of the player base using sign language to communicate which in the end sometimes genuinely acts as a disadvantage for people on the same team.

  • @crappieking5592
    @crappieking5592 Месяц назад

    Sweet you got rid of the spear counter

  • @cixsmiley3618
    @cixsmiley3618 Месяц назад

    Oh god no.

  • @JC-nx3lk
    @JC-nx3lk Месяц назад

    Ah yes, so you can hear people rage instead of read it. And so you have the joy of hearing their open mics and mouth breathing. Not mention the much more difficult task riot would have of enforcing harassment policies via audio instead of text. I'm all for having the option of voice but no way most will use it

  • @darrin8733
    @darrin8733 Месяц назад +1

    Have not watched the full video yet but WE NEED VOICE COMMS. I find it so hard to want to continue playing when i get ignored every ping or whatever i type. I cant communicate what we need to do next and why. I'm the type of person that will ping my abilities when trying to make a play if they're on cd. In return i get told i get muted by my teammates because I'm pinging to much. But me pinging my jungler to gank the lane when enemy is under my tower at lvl 2 and instead they go to invade enemy jungler get collapsed on by my laner and die when i cant follow then they flame me and they do this every time. I ping my botlane to start fighting so when i get into lane theyre not just running away if bushes are warded instead they wait, don't fight and let the enemy escape. Making me waste my time on something that could be successful. I ping objectives 40+ seconds in advanced to get resets and the area prepped I'm ignored. I ping/type for my support to ward or sweeper get ignored. I ping/type to collapse ignored. It feels so ridiculous to be told that we dont need voice comms but its an essential staple in pro play. Why do they use it if it isn't necessary like phreak says!?

  • @Roman-hs2pq
    @Roman-hs2pq Месяц назад

    Omg this nidel

  • @HT-jj5sx
    @HT-jj5sx Месяц назад +35

    No "Zoning spears" counter? The editor is slacking! Love it anyways. Such a good player, but one of the few dudes trying to be a positive influence on the community.

    • @mrstealcar4702
      @mrstealcar4702 Месяц назад +6

      someone complained about it

    • @SilverScraper
      @SilverScraper Месяц назад +13

      Personally I’m glad it’s not here, it was distracting and irritating

    • @HT-jj5sx
      @HT-jj5sx Месяц назад +4

      @@SilverScraper To me, it was him not taking himself too seriously, never got a negative vibe from it.

    • @HT-jj5sx
      @HT-jj5sx Месяц назад +1

      @@mrstealcar4702 Bah, i always thought it was in good fun.

    • @BroxahLoL
      @BroxahLoL  Месяц назад +23

      Many viewers mentioned that they don't like the spear counters, so we got rid of them. Viewer feedback is always very welcome, at the end of the day the most important thing for me is that you all enjoy the videos!

  • @NushiSama
    @NushiSama Месяц назад

    Wait Broxah, so you're saying you want Solo Q players to play to WIN??? Not play to see big KDA??? I think you might be asking for too much

  • @Bogdan639Rears
    @Bogdan639Rears Месяц назад +4

    no mr broxah i don't want to be flamed for not wanting to talk to flaming bobby649...riot barely has control over chat and pings

    • @polylolhihi4143
      @polylolhihi4143 Месяц назад +4

      Then you can choose not to talk to him, no one is going to run to your house and force you to unmute him if thats your decision. Think before you type.

    • @Bogdan639Rears
      @Bogdan639Rears Месяц назад

      @@polylolhihi4143 agree think before you type. Or nvm...therrs no point, have a nice day

    • @Saryan1
      @Saryan1 Месяц назад

      @@polylolhihi4143 Why would they implement voice chat if the vast majority of the playerbase is against it? Everyone will just muteall or not use it at all. Its pointless

    • @polylolhihi4143
      @polylolhihi4143 Месяц назад +1

      @@Saryan1 Is this true? And if its true, source pls.

    • @polylolhihi4143
      @polylolhihi4143 Месяц назад +1

      @@Bogdan639Rears Ehmm... Ya you are either 12 years old or not the sharpest tool in the shelf.

  • @jeremyh4818
    @jeremyh4818 Месяц назад +2

    there is voice chat, people dont use it because everyone is too toxic

    • @polylolhihi4143
      @polylolhihi4143 Месяц назад

      No because its inconvenient and because half the player base is chat restricted.

    • @magmagnuss1515
      @magmagnuss1515 Месяц назад +1

      There is no voice chat. It is only if you are already premade.

  • @sS0ulSs
    @sS0ulSs Месяц назад +2

    Voice chat would be nice, but more important would be actual VOICE PINGS AND ALLERTS - This would make a huge difference.
    Example:
    VOICE Ping Alert - Enemy Support Missing!
    VOICE Ping Alert - Enemy is Jungler Invading!
    you get the idea.....This would also be supported with a Text Message in chat, which people could spam 3/5 times should the Team have muted Sounds.
    The lack of some sort of Voice Comms in-game all of this years is the reason as to why the Community is so Toxic....it is simply Lack of Communication.

    • @BroxahLoL
      @BroxahLoL  Месяц назад +5

      Improving the ping system would be a great change for sure.

    • @sS0ulSs
      @sS0ulSs Месяц назад +1

      @@BroxahLoL you are the voice of the people. Make it happen! ;) #Broxah2024

  • @Kajin1976
    @Kajin1976 Месяц назад

    I could get behind this if not for the fact that old = auto pedo when online. I might end up using voice modulator just for this. Being old that is, mind you.

    • @schmidth
      @schmidth Месяц назад

      Naaah, I don't think people are so quick to call people pedos these days, the average age of gamers is so old now, even most league players are old farts. I genuinely don't think vc would be very toxic, not more toxic than the game already is regardless. And if someone is toxic it's just like with text chat... just mute em

    • @nyxx7813
      @nyxx7813 Месяц назад

      i feel like its more based around champ to get called a pedo.

  • @rne
    @rne Месяц назад +11

    I will quit the game the day voice chat comes to League tbh.

    • @Trivselteknikern
      @Trivselteknikern Месяц назад +8

      And we wouldn't be missing you

    • @rne
      @rne Месяц назад +2

      @@Trivselteknikern As far as I understand Riot doesn't even allow Karthus u to be pinged, I'm fine for now anyway thank you for your kind words 😊

    • @thispersondoesnotexist4664
      @thispersondoesnotexist4664 Месяц назад

      @@rneplease go 0-1 in real life

    • @rne
      @rne Месяц назад +4

      @@thispersondoesnotexist4664 yeah exactly my point You're the reason why there shouldn't be voice chat

    • @Persona6Blue
      @Persona6Blue Месяц назад

      I'm fine with voice chat as long as you can mute it and it isn't reportable to do so.

  • @Procione07
    @Procione07 Месяц назад

    hwei is such a disgusting champ. i got ton of cc and more dmg then a fed assasin. Good Job riot!!!
    and YOU a JUNGLER suggest riot to add voice chat??? so we as jungler can get flamed 24/7 for every game??? i dont think is a good idea.

    • @polylolhihi4143
      @polylolhihi4143 Месяц назад +1

      You should probably try this concept where you explain your point, its really good to do when you argue.

    • @Procione07
      @Procione07 Месяц назад

      @@polylolhihi4143 what exactly is not clear to ur brain? I can explain more if u want

    • @polylolhihi4143
      @polylolhihi4143 Месяц назад +1

      @@Procione07 ''and YOU a JUNGLER suggest riot to add voice chat??? so we as jungler can get flamed 24/7 for every game??? i dont think is a good idea''. This part, not only is it not clear to my brain but I think anyone with an IQ of 85+ would question if this was written by chatGPT or an actual human.

    • @nyxx7813
      @nyxx7813 Месяц назад

      @@polylolhihi4143 its more like English as a second language more than AI to me.

    • @anikarobinson4023
      @anikarobinson4023 Месяц назад

      @@polylolhihi4143 His belief is, Riot has things it should be fixing (Hwei being his example) and adding proper VC would only add a new problem and much grief for Junglers.

  • @D4M4K4
    @D4M4K4 Месяц назад

    No.. just no

  • @KOSPhemBoy
    @KOSPhemBoy Месяц назад +2

    The toxic community is the EXACT reason we shouldn't implement voice chat & if implemented It needs to be able to be turned off/allow the muting of specific players. It would make league even more toxic

    • @polylolhihi4143
      @polylolhihi4143 Месяц назад +1

      I have played cs and league since I was young. I have met multiple friends on cs some of which I have met irl, had endless amounts of laughter listening to random people on voice in pugs. Yes I have had a lot of bad experiences and muted half a million of players throughout the games, but the first thing I mentioned I can't say about league, but I can say that I have muted half a million players in league as well.

    • @SockLove
      @SockLove Месяц назад +2

      Removing features doesn't exactly get rid of toxicity. Even with limited pings/typing people are still super toxic, so clearly the problem isn't VC, so why deprive people from a feature that others would enjoy?

    • @KOSPhemBoy
      @KOSPhemBoy Месяц назад

      @SockLove incase it isn't insanely obvious.. riot doesn't care about the community anymore, they care about money, it's why they buff champions then release a skin, it's why they removed dominion and twisted treeline. It's why the created wild rift for mobile players. It's all about $$ they don't give a fuck what we what. Why the fuck is there 5+ champions with over 55% Winrate for multiple patches ? Because riot doesn't give a shit about anything other than nerfing asol and making money lmao.

  • @rudirotten2689
    @rudirotten2689 Месяц назад +1

    Imagine voice chat in the game at its current state. The bronze adc starts flamming the supports mom just cause he trys to prepare the last hits 4 him under the turret. Ur 0 10 toplane blames u for not ganking him. ur midlaner suggest u kill ur self cause u as jungler pingt for help for years but he refused to move and u got collapsed the 3rd time by enemy mid and jungler in ur own jungle. yeah voicechat would really help a lot. best thing, no one can controll it like the textchat, so u can be as toxic as u want.

    • @polylolhihi4143
      @polylolhihi4143 Месяц назад +1

      Nice story rate 10/10, imagine if theres was a mute button. Now btw one thing that you are getting wrong is that people will be as toxic on voice as they are in written form. WROOOOOOONGGGG. If you have ever lived a day as a human then you would know that people are usually way more open in the way they talk to strangers on text compared to in person.

    • @rudirotten2689
      @rudirotten2689 Месяц назад +1

      @@polylolhihi4143 every game with in build voice proves the opposite

    • @polylolhihi4143
      @polylolhihi4143 Месяц назад

      @@rudirotten2689What kind of point is this, where is your data for this opinion, you are just stating your own feelings as it its a reasonable argument. That might be how you argue in 5th grade, but not in the real world.

    • @nyxx7813
      @nyxx7813 Месяц назад

      @@polylolhihi4143 no hes right your wrong.

    • @polylolhihi4143
      @polylolhihi4143 Месяц назад

      @@nyxx7813 Source: trust

  • @Saryan1
    @Saryan1 Месяц назад +3

    I'm sorry Mr. Brohacks, but I entirely disagree about implementing voice chat on this game. The community is already toxic enough and I fear it will get even more downhill with voice chat. I do think the ping system could be reworked to trigger sound notifications tho. "Enemy Jungler is top side" "Enemy Support is MIA/Roaming" would be a nice addition to the actual ping system. Rito can even milk money out of this by releasing RP purchasables different narrators for your sound notifications, for example Twisted Fate or Draven. That should give some job to the voice actors as well so I think its a legit idea.

    • @polylolhihi4143
      @polylolhihi4143 Месяц назад

      So improve a bad communication system instead of implementing a better one, because you THINK it will be more toxic. Ya thats a sick argument.

    • @Saryan1
      @Saryan1 Месяц назад +3

      @@polylolhihi4143 Improving the current communication system to make it more viable is a far better option than throwing it down the drain and implementing a new one that is a FACT that will bring a lot of issues. This community is not ready for it, people take this game way too seriously and the toxicity is proportional to it. Also LoL's playerbase is filled with sexism and racism. Imagine been verbally harrassed by 4 random guys on an online game just because you're a girl. Your proposal has a lot more of cons than pros, sorry for breaking it to you. I hope you have a good day.

    • @polylolhihi4143
      @polylolhihi4143 Месяц назад

      @@Saryan1 So in my experience from having played games with VC at a high level it genuinely leads to less a toxic environment, because people are aware that they are talking online to real humans. Insulting someone in written form is 20 times easier than it is to say it directly to someone, and there are not that many people that are sad enough irl to do it to the extreme extend that people do on text. So the whole argument of VC bringing greater amounts of toxicity is just fallacy, and you should not be arguing against this if you want to seem at least a bit intelligent. So lastly if you are a girl and you don't want to deal with people being ''cringe'' you can simply just not use the voice chat. BUT from my experience (again I have experience it seems you dont) girls are very welcome nowadays and with over 3k games on FACEIT i have met HUNDREDS of girls and I dont think I can even remember such a thing happening. The idea of having voice comms in an online team game is not a new concept and the league community is no different than any other. The idea that one game has a far more toxic community than others is again A FALLACY. Every online team game has extreme toxicity, ESPECIALLY IN WRITTEN FORM.

    • @grimdeathkid
      @grimdeathkid Месяц назад +1

      ​@@polylolhihi4143my experience from being an average level player in vc games is that they are way more toxic and that honestly it makes things worse.
      But sure improve the game for 1% instead of the 99%

    • @polylolhihi4143
      @polylolhihi4143 Месяц назад

      @@grimdeathkid I'm sorry but I genuinely don't believe that anyone playing cs gets told on voice daily to get cncr or that their mom go sky. Its just not the case, idk why so many people are against VC, when you can just NOT USE IT even though its available. Not like that fucking changes a thing, league players dont really use the chat to communicate anyways, they use pings. If they use chat 85% of the time its to be toxic. No one is going to buy the ''more toxic with VC argument''. And as long as it stands that no riot employee comes to your house and makes sure you are using the VC if its available then i don't see anything wrong in improving the game for those that see it fit this way.

  • @daxxx9366
    @daxxx9366 Месяц назад

    If league had vc I would never play again.

    • @magmagnuss1515
      @magmagnuss1515 Месяц назад +1

      You don't have to use the function, but let those use it who want to.