Thanks for the watching, comments and support so far! Appreciate it. It's cool to see people be excited about these stories. 🌟 You can pick up a Gig Courier zine or support the project with a small donation, if you like, here: ko-fi.com/detourrr Or just send the films to someone you think might like them. 💛
So much. Such honest and kind enthusiasm. Also these films as an initial thought or final output wouldn’t have been possible without him. And I’m happy you enjoyed them, thank you for leaving a comment.
Super awesome films! I would like to emphatically say that yes, Seoul does need a bike messenger company, and you're for sure doing the right thing! Warm greetings and endless support from Poland
Awesome short films Claire! As a Korean-American this really opened my eyes to the cycling community in the land of the morning calm. Thank you for your time and craft!
Thanks for leaving this comment! I'm happy the stories are reaching people who are enjoying them, and particularly happy it's connected with you in terms of culture. That's quite special. Thanks for the nice words.
@@probablyriding I very much enjoy this follow-up review. I'm really happy you liked how your friends' stories were put together, and thanks for the nice words.
A few years ago I started watching Korean cycling YT channels. As a retired trail builder I was interested in their MTB scene . MTB'ing is for old people ?! 😂 This video confirmed what was I finding out about the Korean cycling scène . I had the sense that a lot of those cyclists were "bike poor" considering their bike and kit purchases. It was like a fashion show of sorts bereft of any real passion for cycling. Hopefully the Korean cycling community you profiled in the video will eventually have some impact on the Korean cycling community . Looking at the Japanese cycling scene and it's like a flipped script. They're shops are where the Korean bike shops you profiled are striving to be . Prime example is Blue Lug in Tokyo. They have a great cycling community and they and their customers are passionate about bikes. Hate to make any kind of comparison given the sensitives but lessons and knowledge can be had just across the East Sea.😉 Thanks for the video. Very refreshing look at Korean cycling. I wish them all good fortune in their endeavors.
I realise that in putting this together, I've often asked people to summarise 'Korean cycling' and in doing so, this is going to end up with some oversimplification for sure. I would be pretty careful equating high end kit to a lack of passion, and wouldn't want to give that impression - in fact, Jung Hoon Kim at Disco Bike was really careful to say that he wasn't suggesting that people don't have passion or real enthusiasm. iirc he said it would be "dangerous" to suggest that. So I know it's not quite so simple, but I also have an idea of where you're coming from for sure as to what passion actually looks like to different people. Looking at Japan, Eui Ho Kim from Gig Courier spent a lot of our interview time talking about Korean cycling culture in contrast to his experiences riding as a messenger in Tokyo. It didn't make the edit because the goal wasn't to make a documentary comparing the two, and I wanted to focus on Seoul in its own right, but he very much talked about the high numbers of cyclists and totally different feeling on the road, and felt very fondly about the cycling communities there. It sounds like Seoul cycling's changed pretty dramatically in the last 10 years or so - even in the last 2-3. I hope it keeps going. P.S. Big fan of Blue Lug here too. I'm looking forward to going in person myself (hopefully soon).
It's interesting that big cities often create cycling culture. This also happens south of SK in Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Jakarta, Bangkok, etc. Sometimes you can find locally made cycling goods like cycling bags, jerseys, etc.
True. I really like that cities can give people more chances to come together over all the different angles of cycling - even if it's hard to grow it at times. (Even if you then need to go and get out of the city to actually ride)
@@detourrr In Southeast Asian cities you often find people group ride in the city. Not the best thing to do IMO but it could be too far away to go outside of the city so people just ride on the street with the traffic.
2004년부터 MTB를 타며, 운동을 위해서 로드도 겸하고 있는 55세 인데요... 점점 타는 시간이 많아지고(교통수단)하다보니 편하게 탈 수 있는 자전거를 찾다 보니 올드 스쿨을 알게 되었네요.... 더치바이크... 안양에서 마땅히 구경 갈곳이 없었는데 이 영상으로 많은 정보를 얻게되어서 감사합니다. 그리고 이렇게 진지하게 자전거와 삶을 이어가는 분들이 계신, 보다 다양하고 깊어진 우리 사회의 한 면을 발견 해서 기쁘네요. 신기하고 재미나고.
댓글과 시청해 주셔서 감사합니다. 영화에서 이 카테고리에 대한 유용한 정보를 찾으셨다니 기쁩니다. 편안한 자전거를 찾으시길 바랍니다! 다양성과 연결에 대한 귀하의 마지막 의견은 특히 아름답습니다. 유럽에 사는 외부인으로서 여행 중에 이런 분들을 만날 수 있어서 정말 영광이었습니다.
@@detourrr I love to see a deep pleasure of people. Especially someone focus on his favor. Because of it makes people happier and help to get better life... more than fighting life. I hope we find a value from inside not wining of fight.
I really admire the diversity and passion for cycling that exists in this country (though I wish more would trickle down here to Busan ☺️..) What a beautiful collection of folks -- thx so much!
Happy they resonated. That's super interesting to hear, too. I'm curious about what it's like cycling in Busan too (we rode down to Suncheon and kept west mostly, so didn't do any riding in Busan). Similar situation?
@@detourrr Seems to be a more eclectic mix of riders up there, while more standard mtb/roadies here. Busan does have a great riding infrastructure within the city, as well as the Nakdong River path to the west and the coastal route on the east. It's been a joy to see the huge growth of cycling culture (all across the country) over the 27 years I've been here.
1000% spot on with what Stephan (Kim Jung Hoon) said regarding "bike poor". When I lived in Seoul, I couldn't understand how literally everyone could afford such expensive bikes. We're talking on average a fixed gear bike between $5000-$10000USD while mine was well below $1000. It is a consumer driven society and soon enough, I learned that it's easy for Koreans to "get on board" so to speak. So if an item is hot, everyone will want it and will spend the money to have it be it the newest carbon fiber wheels, frame, or heck even plastic surgery.
i have been a bike messenger in 1995 in berlin - before the internet got big - and there where more then one company everybody was sure - it's needed do your thing - you are making a good job - don't worry
really lovely stories... congratulations. I'm off to Seoul for work in October, and I was thinking of bringing my foldable bike, now I'm convinced to do it
@@franciscoblaha2364 Oh awesome! Definitely take it 😊 happy you enjoyed the stories. If you don’t follow him already, look up @probably_riding on RUclips / Instagram too
It comforts me to know that there are still bike messengers in your country with the same struggle, problems and happiness just like me. In my city, I deliver food all the time and I rarely see a bike messenger like me. I'm the only one using a bicycle because most of them were using a motorcycle for a bigger pay.
All of these stories were poignant, deeply personal, and really beautiful. Thank you. I would love to bring my bike there and hang out at these places. One of my earliest cycling memories was at 7 or so years old in a giant bicycle park in Seoul (in the 80s). I'm really happy and encouraged to see that there is a growing bicycling culture with brilliant people with highly refined tastes that are resistant to the prevailing idea that bicycling is exclusively a high performance sport. I'm frankly getting kind of bored seeing every Korean cycling RUclipsr in spandex riding their Cervelos and Pinarellos. This was a breath of fresh air.
This comment is so nice that I’m not sure where to start. I’m so happy they resonated with you. This last paragraph is such a perfect and accurate compliment to what they’re trying to do. And I’m sure they would love to meet you, and any visitors. Uk, in the final film, is very into meeting and hosting international cyclists at his warmshowers home. The heart on the wall behind him is drawn by a guest (iirc).
Interesting video on Korean Cycling cultures. As a customer of BMMH since 2017, and also been cycling over 17 years, it's really fascinating to know and see the cultures that I haven't experienced. Great video and thank you!
I’m happy it helped share new stories! Thanks for the comment. Do you live in Seoul or somewhere else in South Korea, and how have you found the cycling scene changing there in the last 17 years? I’m so curious.
@@detourrr living in Seoul. I’m just ordinary rider in Seoul. So not sure if I can explain this like experts in video, but environment of cycling and riding style(?) of cyclists and groups has changed dramatically as well. Mostly positive sides. 😊
The stories are the same. We love my bike. It helps us to be just happier or in a better place no matter what our unique problems are; and thus, your bike becomes a part of you.
Thank you for watching and leaving these thoughts! It’s nice to hear from you watching it. Feels more like there are real humans watching and enjoying it at the other end 😊🙏
I remember when I arrived, everyone said that I should try the amazing Han river bike path (which is lovely) but as I rode through the city I realised why everyone pointed to this bike path so much - because it’s quite rare. That said, I did find the cycling in the streets with the cars to be some of the most fun. And when I rode in the streets, I definitely noticed how few other cyclists there were doing so. I hope you are able to leave the footpath soon. 💛
@@MorganJones33 Happy you like it! I think I saw a DM flash up for me and then mysteriously vanish again, weirdly. Could you send it again or let me know your ig?
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Thanks for the watching, comments and support so far! Appreciate it. It's cool to see people be excited about these stories. 🌟 You can pick up a Gig Courier zine or support the project with a small donation, if you like, here: ko-fi.com/detourrr Or just send the films to someone you think might like them. 💛
This was great I really appreciate the messenger dude...what a genuine guy
So much. Such honest and kind enthusiasm. Also these films as an initial thought or final output wouldn’t have been possible without him. And I’m happy you enjoyed them, thank you for leaving a comment.
🥰Thank you so much for making a Korean bicycle culture documentary
Thank you so much for watching 💛🙏
Thank you so much for these films!
Super awesome films! I would like to emphatically say that yes, Seoul does need a bike messenger company, and you're for sure doing the right thing! Warm greetings and endless support from Poland
Thank you for this very wholesome comment
Euiho Kim! What a stellar guy. Best of luck growing the scene to all the Gig courier folks!
Very stellar! Happy that really comes across. Thanks for this highly wholesome comment.
영상의 기획과 구성, 내용까지 너무 완벽합니다.
영상을 만들어주셔서 감사합니다.
정말 친절한 말씀 정말 감사합니다. 그거 정말 감사해요.
Awesome short films Claire! As a Korean-American this really opened my eyes to the cycling community in the land of the morning calm. Thank you for your time and craft!
Thanks for leaving this comment! I'm happy the stories are reaching people who are enjoying them, and particularly happy it's connected with you in terms of culture. That's quite special. Thanks for the nice words.
I love Jongmoon’s views on bikes. Enjoying what I’ve watched so far. Looking forward to taking the time to watch the rest of the interviews!
Thank you! The ending touches a good nerve for sure. Hope you enjoy the rest of the films just as much.
The rest was indeed a delight. Lovely people, great stories. Well done 👏👏👏
@@probablyriding I very much enjoy this follow-up review. I'm really happy you liked how your friends' stories were put together, and thanks for the nice words.
I thought there might be a ProbablyRIding sighting at some point.
A few years ago I started watching Korean cycling YT channels. As a retired trail builder I was interested in their MTB scene . MTB'ing is for old people ?! 😂 This video confirmed what was I finding out about the Korean cycling scène . I had the sense that a lot of those cyclists were "bike poor" considering their bike and kit purchases. It was like a fashion show of sorts bereft of any real passion for cycling. Hopefully the Korean cycling community you profiled in the video will eventually have some impact on the Korean cycling community .
Looking at the Japanese cycling scene and it's like a flipped script. They're shops are where the Korean bike shops you profiled are striving to be . Prime example is Blue Lug in Tokyo. They have a great cycling community and they and their customers are passionate about bikes. Hate to make any kind of comparison given the sensitives but lessons and knowledge can be had just across the East Sea.😉
Thanks for the video. Very refreshing look at Korean cycling. I wish them all good fortune in their endeavors.
I realise that in putting this together, I've often asked people to summarise 'Korean cycling' and in doing so, this is going to end up with some oversimplification for sure. I would be pretty careful equating high end kit to a lack of passion, and wouldn't want to give that impression - in fact, Jung Hoon Kim at Disco Bike was really careful to say that he wasn't suggesting that people don't have passion or real enthusiasm. iirc he said it would be "dangerous" to suggest that. So I know it's not quite so simple, but I also have an idea of where you're coming from for sure as to what passion actually looks like to different people.
Looking at Japan, Eui Ho Kim from Gig Courier spent a lot of our interview time talking about Korean cycling culture in contrast to his experiences riding as a messenger in Tokyo. It didn't make the edit because the goal wasn't to make a documentary comparing the two, and I wanted to focus on Seoul in its own right, but he very much talked about the high numbers of cyclists and totally different feeling on the road, and felt very fondly about the cycling communities there. It sounds like Seoul cycling's changed pretty dramatically in the last 10 years or so - even in the last 2-3. I hope it keeps going.
P.S. Big fan of Blue Lug here too. I'm looking forward to going in person myself (hopefully soon).
It's interesting that big cities often create cycling culture. This also happens south of SK in Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Jakarta, Bangkok, etc. Sometimes you can find locally made cycling goods like cycling bags, jerseys, etc.
True. I really like that cities can give people more chances to come together over all the different angles of cycling - even if it's hard to grow it at times. (Even if you then need to go and get out of the city to actually ride)
@@detourrr In Southeast Asian cities you often find people group ride in the city. Not the best thing to do IMO but it could be too far away to go outside of the city so people just ride on the street with the traffic.
2004년부터 MTB를 타며, 운동을 위해서 로드도 겸하고 있는 55세 인데요... 점점 타는 시간이 많아지고(교통수단)하다보니 편하게 탈 수 있는 자전거를 찾다 보니 올드 스쿨을 알게 되었네요.... 더치바이크... 안양에서 마땅히 구경 갈곳이 없었는데 이 영상으로 많은 정보를 얻게되어서 감사합니다. 그리고 이렇게 진지하게 자전거와 삶을 이어가는 분들이 계신, 보다 다양하고 깊어진 우리 사회의 한 면을 발견 해서 기쁘네요. 신기하고 재미나고.
댓글과 시청해 주셔서 감사합니다. 영화에서 이 카테고리에 대한 유용한 정보를 찾으셨다니 기쁩니다. 편안한 자전거를 찾으시길 바랍니다! 다양성과 연결에 대한 귀하의 마지막 의견은 특히 아름답습니다. 유럽에 사는 외부인으로서 여행 중에 이런 분들을 만날 수 있어서 정말 영광이었습니다.
@@detourrr I love to see a deep pleasure of people. Especially someone focus on his favor. Because of it makes people happier and help to get better life... more than fighting life. I hope we find a value from inside not wining of fight.
I really admire the diversity and passion for cycling that exists in this country (though I wish more would trickle down here to Busan ☺️..) What a beautiful collection of folks -- thx so much!
Happy they resonated. That's super interesting to hear, too. I'm curious about what it's like cycling in Busan too (we rode down to Suncheon and kept west mostly, so didn't do any riding in Busan). Similar situation?
@@detourrr Seems to be a more eclectic mix of riders up there, while more standard mtb/roadies here. Busan does have a great riding infrastructure within the city, as well as the Nakdong River path to the west and the coastal route on the east. It's been a joy to see the huge growth of cycling culture (all across the country) over the 27 years I've been here.
No, thank YOU! Brilliantly put together.
1000% spot on with what Stephan (Kim Jung Hoon) said regarding "bike poor". When I lived in Seoul, I couldn't understand how literally everyone could afford such expensive bikes. We're talking on average a fixed gear bike between $5000-$10000USD while mine was well below $1000. It is a consumer driven society and soon enough, I learned that it's easy for Koreans to "get on board" so to speak. So if an item is hot, everyone will want it and will spend the money to have it be it the newest carbon fiber wheels, frame, or heck even plastic surgery.
really interesting film, hope this will reach more people and eventuallly let the cycling culture grow!
Thank you!
i have been a bike messenger in 1995 in berlin - before the internet got big - and there where more then one company
everybody was sure - it's needed
do your thing - you are making a good job - don't worry
Thanks for the supportive comment! I'm sure Eui Ho Kim will be happy to read this comment. Who did you work for in Berlin in 1995?
Awesome video! Great to know about the shop in the first video. I've always been looking for bikes like that.
Thanks! Happy it helped. Hope you have a chance to visit the new Bolt store in the first film when they re-open.
Really enjoyed this film! I loved the style, the people that are in it and what they had to say! Long live the bicycle!
Thank you! I'm really happy you liked each story. Each one feels very special.
really lovely stories... congratulations. I'm off to Seoul for work in October, and I was thinking of bringing my foldable bike, now I'm convinced to do it
@@franciscoblaha2364 Oh awesome! Definitely take it 😊 happy you enjoyed the stories. If you don’t follow him already, look up @probably_riding on RUclips / Instagram too
It comforts me to know that there are still bike messengers in your country with the same struggle, problems and happiness just like me. In my city, I deliver food all the time and I rarely see a bike messenger like me. I'm the only one using a bicycle because most of them were using a motorcycle for a bigger pay.
That sounds like it could be tough. How long have you been doing that?
love this! Thank you for making this film. :)
All of these stories were poignant, deeply personal, and really beautiful. Thank you.
I would love to bring my bike there and hang out at these places. One of my earliest cycling memories was at 7 or so years old in a giant bicycle park in Seoul (in the 80s).
I'm really happy and encouraged to see that there is a growing bicycling culture with brilliant people with highly refined tastes that are resistant to the prevailing idea that bicycling is exclusively a high performance sport. I'm frankly getting kind of bored seeing every Korean cycling RUclipsr in spandex riding their Cervelos and Pinarellos. This was a breath of fresh air.
This comment is so nice that I’m not sure where to start. I’m so happy they resonated with you. This last paragraph is such a perfect and accurate compliment to what they’re trying to do.
And I’m sure they would love to meet you, and any visitors. Uk, in the final film, is very into meeting and hosting international cyclists at his warmshowers home. The heart on the wall behind him is drawn by a guest (iirc).
일상에 속에서 친숙하고 편하게 활용할 수 있는 atb나 레트로한 커스텀 자전거를 좋아하고 이런 자전거로 출퇴근과 라이딩하는 한 사람으로서 이런 영상이 반갑네요.
이 글을 읽게 되어 정말 기쁩니다. 감사합니다. 이런 종류의 사이클링을 축하하게 되어 기쁩니다. 💛
Interesting video on Korean Cycling cultures.
As a customer of BMMH since 2017, and also been cycling over 17 years, it's really fascinating to know and see the cultures that I haven't experienced.
Great video and thank you!
I’m happy it helped share new stories! Thanks for the comment. Do you live in Seoul or somewhere else in South Korea, and how have you found the cycling scene changing there in the last 17 years? I’m so curious.
@@detourrr living in Seoul. I’m just ordinary rider in Seoul. So not sure if I can explain this like experts in video, but environment of cycling and riding style(?) of cyclists and groups has changed dramatically as well. Mostly positive sides. 😊
I think that makes you an expert in ordinary riding! 😎 I’m glad it feels like dramatic and positive changes, and that you’re enjoying them.
And this is a nice document with all the aspects of cycling I think of.
Thank you!
The stories are the same. We love my bike. It helps us to be just happier or in a better place no matter what our unique problems are; and thus, your bike becomes a part of you.
That's such nice wording 💛
So good! Thank you for documenting cycling culture.
Thank you! And thanks for leaving a comment too.
Inspiring to say the least, thanks for the upload!
Thank you for watching! Happy it had you feeling like that.
waauu just amazing work you did! such a carefully made project. thanks a lot.
Thank you for watching and leaving these thoughts! It’s nice to hear from you watching it. Feels more like there are real humans watching and enjoying it at the other end 😊🙏
@@detourrr there definilty are!
Gracias por esta pieza de arte ♥ Saludos desde Guatemala 🇬🇹 :D
¡Saludos a Guatemala! Muchas gracias por mirar y por dejar un saludo.
One day i will wind up back in Seoul and look for work as a bike courier.
waw, nice!
Thank you!
🫡❤️
I ride my single speed bicycle on footpath here cause there is zero cycle infrastructure to be safe.
I remember when I arrived, everyone said that I should try the amazing Han river bike path (which is lovely) but as I rode through the city I realised why everyone pointed to this bike path so much - because it’s quite rare. That said, I did find the cycling in the streets with the cars to be some of the most fun. And when I rode in the streets, I definitely noticed how few other cyclists there were doing so. I hope you are able to leave the footpath soon. 💛
Hey Claire. Love this! I’ve sent you a message on Instagram regarding some post-production work!!
@@MorganJones33 Happy you like it! I think I saw a DM flash up for me and then mysteriously vanish again, weirdly. Could you send it again or let me know your ig?