Disney already made a show with gay witches yet they were able to also tell an amazing story with developed characters. But apparently Disney wants to follow Acolyte's failings instead of Owl House's success
Why do people say that being gay is special when it really isn’t? It’s a choice, when people are overlooking those with actual talent like acting, comedy, and stunt work.
Disney does not learn. They see the successes, but they keep hoping their more message based personal projects to fly, not realizing it is filled with stones in the form of hate and exclusivity club mentality.
I'm Gen X and gay will always refer to when your mate squeals like a schoolgirl when a car backfires. I don't care what you think. I will use words however I wish.
It’s not the characters but it’s the agenda, “holier than thou” attitude, virtue signaling and most importantly bad writing. I reference back to Baldur’s Gate 3, no one had problems with writing or the characters. That had everything under the Sun. But it never insulted your intelligence, they let you make up your own narrative and never preached. This works for games, movies and shows. Unfortunately, studios can’t seem to write any good movies or shows without insulting people or make shows that’s not meant for… the audience.
What does it even mean to be “ the gayest show”? That seems kind of insulting. That would be like if a corporation told me they made the blackest show . WTF is that
I just finished the first 2 episode and absolutely love it so far I’m hoping the show doesn’t fall off the cliff like usual because this is a strong start for the show
Well if this was the old Aubrey Plaza, I'd just think she was goofing and being ironic. But like a lot of other actors she could have caught the woke virus and lost all sense of reason. Disney constantly wants the stick instead of the carrot.
She is woke and definitely supports leftist crap i remember she supported the BLM crap too she isnt a good person just like the rest of the weirdos in Hollywood
I'm gay and I don't even want to read a "gay explosion". That just sounds unappealing. Like, no, thank you. I'd rather not explode, thanks. Ironically, the best story that has gay characters in it as the mains that I've ever seen is a Chinese one called Mo Dao Zu Shi/The Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation. The romance is practically a side story and the story as a whole involves war, revenge, murders and slaughterings, something kind of like magic, and the whole nine yards. Pretty bad when a country where homosexuality isn't allowed to be legally shown in media has better gay representation than the west does, huh.
I had detention for 3 days in a row for calling a kid gay in 4th grade. He ended up being gay as we got older. So where's the punishment for all these people calling shit gay?
I'm reminded of the Pearl birthday episode of Spongebob, where Mr. Krabs has Spongebob follow Pearl around, and Pearl keeps declaring how everything is the "Greatest Thing Ever! 😆" Well, Dizni's apparently going with "This is the Gayest thing EVER! 😆😆😆😆😆😆" 👋😒☕ -L🌘E
"Mr Disney comes up and he smiles at me He said its gonna be a gay one, just wait and see Jumped outta bed and went online Feeling so extra unsatisfied It's the Gayest Show Ever! (Gayest Show Ever) It's the Gayest Show Ever! (Gayest Show Ever)"
When things flop and people end up losing their jobs I usually end up feeling bad for them... But it's the inability to learn that's making it harder for me to feel anything in regards to Disney and all of these other corporations. Listen I'm not a smart man but I don't think you actually need to be smart in order to understand that labeling something "The gayest blah blah blah ever" isn't a good look.
Someday I'm going to write a story that checks off most of the boxes these people have for films (diverse cast, different sexualities, etc.) while actually (to the best of my ability at least) making an engaging story that doesn't make those its entire personality while also subtly poking fun at and criticizing projects that do …and I won't blame racism for its potential failure
Disney is on a nostalgia buzz, missing the 1970's when their studio output was in laughable and in decline leading them to near death in the 80s, and I hope they finally do it properly this time around! Christ even Derek Jarmin didn't publicise his work by saying "This is my gayest movie ever" 🤦♀
Disney should have stayed with their Disneystuff. That was (most of the time) very good. But taking Star Wars and Marvel (and I said it already back than as the first time I saw Star Wars made by Disney) that it is bad.
Dion in FFXVI is a gay man and the character is well written. Basically a equivalent to the MC in terms of moral code and his will to protect his people.
As someone who was goos friends with a small vindictus group that had a gay guy in it they are such nice people. These activist groups generate attention and hate towards the groups because they shove sexual concepts in your face. These shows are not rated adult only despite dealing with adult concepts. Its appalling and i feel embarassed for my friends. I was babysat by two lovely bisexual goth sisters growing up and, we dont talk anymore, but i was there when their mother passed. Great people. Why do these companies feel the need to sexualize tv thats rated for children to watch? Above all else i find it disgusting and creepy.
It impressives the modern audience, all 30K of them. Hey, they're willing to spend 10s of millions to get browne points from a handful of people, it's their money to burn.
Genuine question: Do they get an ESG bonus if they publicly declare someone or something as 'the gayest ever'? Has this type of marketing worked? Ever? IDFK
Marketing a show as the most heterosexual project ever would be pretty off putting. Oh well, by all means create the "gayest" Star Wars and the "gayest" Marvel show and the "gayest" Disney Princess and then follow it up with the "gayest" earnings call (CEO with a pink feather boa, baby).
1:30 I dont know...about that.. i remember people hooting and a halloring about the female in "monarch legacy of monsters" where it showed just a single kiss of the lesbian couple.. but they considered it "Woke" but were fine with the after sex scene between the straight couple.
Yeah, some people in the anti-woke community are genuinely bigoted now. Horseshoe theory. I wish we'd do a better job calling them out though. It's not a good look.
I as a straight white man might not be an expert on this... But how many hardcore gay people are there, who long for cheesy Marvel Superhero shows that are years too late? 🤔
But aren't most witches outcast/secluded by choice in order to do what they do along with luring or kidnapping people. I don't think that has anything to do with them being queer
The people running things don't lose anything by producing this trash. They'll get paid the same regardless. So why worry about succeeding? The hits will keep on coming no doubt.
It's not fair to say the cast are describing it as the gayest marvel project. A reporter from variety kept asking each cast member if it was the gayest marvel project and they mostly answered him awkwardly because no matter how they answered some group was going to be angry with their response. I'm not defending the current state of Marvel and I honestly hope the show bombs so that they will course correct, but fair is fair.
Look. I am glad Disney is including LGBT characters. Heck Lumity is my pick for Disney's best romance. That is a homosexual pairing. But you know what made it work? Good storytelling and character growth. The sexuality of Luz and Amity were not the focus and instead their relationship was. This proves Disney can have gay characters without savrificing plot and character growth. However with this show it is just pandering. No real effort put into it and the characters have no chemistry. I really wish they would follow Owl House and if they want LGBT characters, they still need to write them well, which Agatha does not
They didn't market the Acolyte as, "the gayest starwars". Those were words an interviewer said. Leslie Headlamp's literal was response: "oh no not the gayest starwars".
Marvel isn’t the one marketing it as ‘The gayest Marvel show’, interviewers have been asking the cast and creators about it with bait-y questions and then making headlines saying the cast called it “THE GAYEST SHOW EVER”. You know that though but I guess grifters gotta grift.
Did you not read the responses from the actors? Marvel may not be marketing it such but the actors aren't shying away from openly calling it that way. I'm sure they've done enough interviews to know how to catch and dodge baity questions.
05:24 Witchcraft was traditionally are celebration of the sacred feminine *_AND_* masculine. Very much hetero-orientated. Guessing the fool who said this was an actor, not a witch. Whoops!
When i called everything gay as a kid in elementary school i got in trouble for it. They do it and get praised?
Agatha is gay, in the way you got in trouble for saying it.
Pretty much. "It's okay when we do it" - their mindset.
It's not for straight people?
Okay, I won't watch it then since I'm not geh.
The power of one...person who is going to watch Agatha.
Certainly not the *maaaanyyyy.*
the cringe of one
the cringe of two
the cringe of many.....
nothing like making a movie for like 5% of the population, and them not even coming thru for you
If the people didn’t watch lesbian space witches, why would they watch lesbian terrestrial witches?
Disney already made a show with gay witches yet they were able to also tell an amazing story with developed characters. But apparently Disney wants to follow Acolyte's failings instead of Owl House's success
So from a lesbian show to another lesbian show.
Why why does the gay dei shit matter so much more the story, plot, Disney stop got damn.
Why do people say that being gay is special when it really isn’t? It’s a choice, when people are overlooking those with actual talent like acting, comedy, and stunt work.
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man
More like old lady….
He's gay, she's gay, you're gay, I'm gay. Are there any other gays I should know about?
“Meow” - Disney 2030
😂
Basically a gay show, Not for straight people, so many as me will skip this show.
@@rakyon9629"I'm out of here 😠"
Hey im back from 3065!
Did disney learn?
No...... no they did not
Disney survived for that long into the future?!
Disney does not learn. They see the successes, but they keep hoping their more message based personal projects to fly, not realizing it is filled with stones in the form of hate and exclusivity club mentality.
You would think that Disney would learn after the success of Deadpool and Wolverine and get away from the wokeness but apparently not.
I think , since most of their crew are activists. They want to spew woke plus stick it to the man. So basically they are parasites killing their host
They look at Deadpool and Wolverine with disdain
They make movies like Deadpool and Wolverine SO they can make stuff like this.
Deadpool x Wolverine was also pretty gay, wasn't it?
MARVEL GAYEST AGATHA ALL LONG SKIP IT
More KGBTQ crap from Disney to avoid...
You have to wonder at this point if they're doing this on purpose. Deliberately tanking stock prices for some nefarious reason.
I noped out of this one before even starting it
I remember back in the OLD DAYS when _"Gay"_ meant _"Happy."_
I sure do miss being _Hapoy._ 🙄
You remember all the way back before the 1950s when gay first became a term for gay men, which by the way wasn't by gay people themselves?
I'm Gen X and gay will always refer to when your mate squeals like a schoolgirl when a car backfires. I don't care what you think. I will use words however I wish.
Why are those people think everyone would change from seeking movies (or shows) with "the best animation", "the best story",... to "the gayest"?
It’s not the characters but it’s the agenda, “holier than thou” attitude, virtue signaling and most importantly bad writing.
I reference back to Baldur’s Gate 3, no one had problems with writing or the characters. That had everything under the Sun. But it never insulted your intelligence, they let you make up your own narrative and never preached. This works for games, movies and shows.
Unfortunately, studios can’t seem to write any good movies or shows without insulting people or make shows that’s not meant for… the audience.
If only lgbt people were 90% of population, these type of shows might make some bucks. A big MIGHT
What does it even mean to be “ the gayest show”? That seems kind of insulting. That would be like if a corporation told me they made the blackest show . WTF is that
They already did that. Check out the Canadian show "Robyn Hood". The theme song legitimately starts like "we robbin', robbin', robbin'." 💀
It means the most racist series in the Marvel
I just finished the first 2 episode and absolutely love it so far
I’m hoping the show doesn’t fall off the cliff like usual because this is a strong start for the show
Well if this was the old Aubrey Plaza, I'd just think she was goofing and being ironic. But like a lot of other actors she could have caught the woke virus and lost all sense of reason. Disney constantly wants the stick instead of the carrot.
She is woke and definitely supports leftist crap i remember she supported the BLM crap too she isnt a good person just like the rest of the weirdos in Hollywood
"I'M GAY, I'M GAY, I'M GAY! WE'RE TOTALLY GAY!!!" ~ Darksydephil
I'm gay and I don't even want to read a "gay explosion". That just sounds unappealing. Like, no, thank you. I'd rather not explode, thanks.
Ironically, the best story that has gay characters in it as the mains that I've ever seen is a Chinese one called Mo Dao Zu Shi/The Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation. The romance is practically a side story and the story as a whole involves war, revenge, murders and slaughterings, something kind of like magic, and the whole nine yards.
Pretty bad when a country where homosexuality isn't allowed to be legally shown in media has better gay representation than the west does, huh.
Love that you brought up Mo Dao Zu Shi as that was such a good story/show.
So in other words, it’s DEI trash for no one. And when it’ll fail, they will desperately blame « bigotry » instead of their own incompetence.
I guess they haven't learned anything from the acolyte
I'm looking forward to seeing how bad this does.
go woke, go broke
They're very religious.
Putting those 1.6 billion dollars from the success of Inside Out 2 back into creating tax write-off flops.
If our ancestors were gay then we would not be here.... 😂
When you think they couldn't get to Aubrey Plaza but they got to her 💀
There's no audience for that show.
I'm sure the Dustborn players will watch.
So they learned absolutely nothing from acolyte and this is another show that will fail and they will blame us for it.
Sigh
I had detention for 3 days in a row for calling a kid gay in 4th grade. He ended up being gay as we got older. So where's the punishment for all these people calling shit gay?
I'm reminded of the Pearl birthday episode of Spongebob, where Mr. Krabs has Spongebob follow Pearl around, and Pearl keeps declaring how everything is the "Greatest Thing Ever! 😆" Well, Dizni's apparently going with "This is the Gayest thing EVER! 😆😆😆😆😆😆" 👋😒☕
-L🌘E
"Mr Disney comes up and he smiles at me
He said its gonna be a gay one, just wait and see
Jumped outta bed and went online
Feeling so extra unsatisfied
It's the Gayest Show Ever! (Gayest Show Ever)
It's the Gayest Show Ever! (Gayest Show Ever)"
When things flop and people end up losing their jobs I usually end up feeling bad for them... But it's the inability to learn that's making it harder for me to feel anything in regards to Disney and all of these other corporations. Listen I'm not a smart man but I don't think you actually need to be smart in order to understand that labeling something "The gayest blah blah blah ever" isn't a good look.
When will this get Acolyted? Around November or December?
They're Trolling us. They know it's a flop so they're just saying whatever they want.
The crimson chins strike again.
Success like Deadpool fund all their turds
Nothing like a "gay explosion " to draw more underage viewers to Disney+. (A quote from Lombardi Plaza, uh Newark Plaza, uh one of those Plazas)
They come out and call it lame and gahye before it's even out that way they can call everyone bigots and segcists for not watching it when flops
The only way for Disney to get people watching their lesbian/gay programming would be to switch to doing adult films.
Someday I'm going to write a story that checks off most of the boxes these people have for films (diverse cast, different sexualities, etc.) while actually (to the best of my ability at least) making an engaging story that doesn't make those its entire personality while also subtly poking fun at and criticizing projects that do
…and I won't blame racism for its potential failure
if the word gay meant being careless again
Disney is on a nostalgia buzz, missing the 1970's when their studio output was in laughable and in decline leading them to near death in the 80s, and I hope they finally do it properly this time around!
Christ even Derek Jarmin didn't publicise his work by saying "This is my gayest movie ever" 🤦♀
Shame Kathryn Hahn subjected herself to this role.
She's a great actress. Stupid hot in Step Brothers
Disney should have stayed with their Disneystuff. That was (most of the time) very good. But taking Star Wars and Marvel (and I said it already back than as the first time I saw Star Wars made by Disney) that it is bad.
Wasn't it so that movies or TV shows are required to have DEI representation? And if they don't have it, they won't be eligible for the awards?
They’ll get the audience they deserve
Soon to be one of the most bankrupts shows that's for sure.
Dion in FFXVI is a gay man and the character is well written. Basically a equivalent to the MC in terms of moral code and his will to protect his people.
Men i miss the old disney
As someone who was goos friends with a small vindictus group that had a gay guy in it they are such nice people. These activist groups generate attention and hate towards the groups because they shove sexual concepts in your face. These shows are not rated adult only despite dealing with adult concepts. Its appalling and i feel embarassed for my friends. I was babysat by two lovely bisexual goth sisters growing up and, we dont talk anymore, but i was there when their mother passed. Great people. Why do these companies feel the need to sexualize tv thats rated for children to watch? Above all else i find it disgusting and creepy.
Because it worked SO WELL for Star Wars. /s
FOUR VIDEOS IN ONE DAY!! 🙂
It impressives the modern audience, all 30K of them. Hey, they're willing to spend 10s of millions to get browne points from a handful of people, it's their money to burn.
Genuine question: Do they get an ESG bonus if they publicly declare someone or something as 'the gayest ever'? Has this type of marketing worked? Ever? IDFK
So of course, IGN loves it 😂
Marketing a show as the most heterosexual project ever would be pretty off putting. Oh well, by all means create the "gayest" Star Wars and the "gayest" Marvel show and the "gayest" Disney Princess and then follow it up with the "gayest" earnings call (CEO with a pink feather boa, baby).
1:30 I dont know...about that.. i remember people hooting and a halloring about the female in "monarch legacy of monsters" where it showed just a single kiss of the lesbian couple.. but they considered it "Woke" but were fine with the after sex scene between the straight couple.
Yeah, some people in the anti-woke community are genuinely bigoted now. Horseshoe theory. I wish we'd do a better job calling them out though. It's not a good look.
So did anyone see asmr they did? 😧
I as a straight white man might not be an expert on this... But how many hardcore gay people are there, who long for cheesy Marvel Superhero shows that are years too late? 🤔
Reading the word Gayest is anautomatically Nope for me, well to be honest I never cared about Agatha, yet even way less more now.
Im all gay. (Happy).
To be fair, they were kind of ambushed. It's still a good thing, Disney will have to keep these publications away from their actors in the end.
what if they intentionally create trash shows to appreciate and celebrate single shows/films they releasing.
All the other stuff aside, this is a marvel production?
But aren't most witches outcast/secluded by choice in order to do what they do along with luring or kidnapping people. I don't think that has anything to do with them being queer
Normal people are just exhausted of Gay... What don't these companies get? Just do a normal show.
The people running things don't lose anything by producing this trash. They'll get paid the same regardless. So why worry about succeeding? The hits will keep on coming no doubt.
It's not fair to say the cast are describing it as the gayest marvel project. A reporter from variety kept asking each cast member if it was the gayest marvel project and they mostly answered him awkwardly because no matter how they answered some group was going to be angry with their response. I'm not defending the current state of Marvel and I honestly hope the show bombs so that they will course correct, but fair is fair.
The gayest starwars show ✅
The gayest marvel show ✅
Are they any good though? : 😂😂😂😂😂😂
i bet plaza just replied in her typical comedic sarcastic way.. i like her.. hope she isnt going head-on into to the wierdoes in hollywood
Look. I am glad Disney is including LGBT characters. Heck Lumity is my pick for Disney's best romance. That is a homosexual pairing. But you know what made it work? Good storytelling and character growth. The sexuality of Luz and Amity were not the focus and instead their relationship was.
This proves Disney can have gay characters without savrificing plot and character growth. However with this show it is just pandering. No real effort put into it and the characters have no chemistry. I really wish they would follow Owl House and if they want LGBT characters, they still need to write them well, which Agatha does not
It has Aubrey Plaza in it. Good for me to at least check out.
They didn't market the Acolyte as, "the gayest starwars".
Those were words an interviewer said.
Leslie Headlamp's literal was response: "oh no not the gayest starwars".
tbf i would go gay for Vara if i was a woman
Marvel isn’t the one marketing it as ‘The gayest Marvel show’, interviewers have been asking the cast and creators about it with bait-y questions and then making headlines saying the cast called it “THE GAYEST SHOW EVER”. You know that though but I guess grifters gotta grift.
Did you not read the responses from the actors? Marvel may not be marketing it such but the actors aren't shying away from openly calling it that way. I'm sure they've done enough interviews to know how to catch and dodge baity questions.
Vocês são irritantes e intolerantes. A série é muito competente em sua qualidade
it was a lesbian all along..
Cool, why do you use the same thumbnail for every video you post?
05:24 Witchcraft was traditionally are celebration of the sacred feminine *_AND_* masculine. Very much hetero-orientated.
Guessing the fool who said this was an actor, not a witch. Whoops!