Many farmers, including my grandfather, who were actively using their WD for field work back in their day put the WD45 engine kit in them. 4 inch stroke = stock WD engine, 4.5 inch stroke = WD45 engine kit installed. You can measure the piston stroke with a piece of wire inserted through a spark plug hole while turning the engine by hand. My Dad said the WD45 engine kit made a big difference in usable power for field work, especially on hills. I still own and use this same tractor. It is now retired from field work, but still useful as a utility tractor with a front-end loader and rear blade. It has plenty of power for its size.
AC bought Buda engine company in 1953 . The WD 45 diesel had a 6 cylinder Buda Engine. When I was in high school I spent many hours on a WD 45 Diesel plowing. We pulled a mounted 3 bottom plow but in certain soils the WD 45 could pull 4 bottoms.
I have a WD was told they put a 45 engine in it. Just went to barn and looked its a WD engine. It had wd45 decals on it but I repainted put WD on it. Mine is a 1950 WD it has the straight shifter not curved and didnt have snap coupler till I put it on. Thanks for the info.
This is a long shot but I have an old CA that was my grandfathers and has been in the family for over 40 years .. and I can't for the life of me figure out what year it is by the serial number witch is ca-19738 .. would you have any information to help me
I have (I think) a WD. but it has the Power Crater motor. So I kinda wonder if it might not be a WD45. It's not currently on my property or I'd go out and check the plate or lack there of.
How do you KNOW it has a "Power Crater" engine? Anybody can put a sticker on the block. The power crater name came from the shape of the top of the piston. If you put those pistons in a WD engine with a 4 inch stroke, you would have less power than with standard flat top pistons. It could also have a 4.5 inch stroke crank from a 45 and use the power crater pistons making it very close in power to a "real" 45
brokenwrench1 The late WD did NOT use the WD45 block. They did put the constant mesh transmission in the WD, with a curved shifter in 1952. WD's started with the 'so called' 45 transmission ( with curved shifter ) in 1952 at serial WD127007. The 45 with the 226 cu in engine (4.5 inch stroke) started at WD146607.
i lived a couple miles from my AC dealer that had a AC tractor collection . i worked for the dealership as a mechanic. the owner showed me the last WD the dealership got in and the owner showed me that it was a rare WD that had the WD45 block in it he also had a rare wd45 that came out with a 6cyl gas engine used in the A gleaner combines . in my area there were 6 or seven of these in the county and they were experimental models and would handle a 4-14 plow. they were never put into production as the d17 came out the next year. AC put a few test tractors in my area because of the sticky river bottom gumbo soil took more HP to pull the same plow.
There is nothing RARE about a WD with a 45 block in it. Hundreds of them have had the original engine replaced with a 45. The ONLY 6 cylinder Allis put in a WD45 was a diesel and many of them have been changed to a 6 cylinder gas. Nothing rare there either, just NOT factory. As for you comment about the transmissions, No W series tractors had synchronized gears. The WD till late 1952 had a straight cut spur gear tranny that actually moved the gears to shift and the late 52 WD had helical cut gears with a curved shifter tranny . Collars slid to "shift" gears and the gear itself stayed engaged at all times, hence the constant mesh name. Neither transmission was synchronized. There are REAL knowledgeable people at allischalmers.com that you could learn from if you were so inclined. There are also a few that "heard" from so and so that their WD came from the factory with a Snap Couple hitch. That never happened either. Many were converted at the dealerships though before being sold "new". Repeating misinformation does not make it fact
this is not true about the last year production wd in 52 or 53 the wd used the same block and transmission. you could take a wc or a wd and put the wd45 crankshaft in it with the piston set then change the intake and carb and you would have a wd45 in a wd block the wd had a non syncronized gear set in the trans with a straight gear shift until 53 the wd and wd45 had a curved gear shift with the heavier gears the wd was 36 hp the wd45 was 45-47 hp with standard pistons
We had hand brakes and long,thin shifter that came out of the transmission right behind the bell housing and had no factory hydraulics. Also, the throttle was horizontal and the lever engaged notches. WDs had straight shifters that came up near the steering wheel support, had vertical quadrants behind the steering wheel for throttle on right and hydraulic lever on left. Most WDs were sliding gear transmissions, while late WDs and 45s were constant mesh transmissions with curved shifter in the same location. They also had traction booster,but 45s had snap coupler factory installed.
Incorrect and not logical. The difference in years will vary that block plate. The easiest is the shifter. Straight up is wd. Curved is a 45. Plain and simple.
It doesn't matter which one you have, hardly anyone else wants one now, there are so many nicer, better Allis Chalmers models that are easier to get on/off, easier to steer etc. Oliver Wendall Douglas hung on to his HoytClagwell far too long, he should have gotten a 4020.
@@2148aa my uncle had one with no power steering, jeezlouise it needed it, we had a D15, it had it and it was so much nicer, plus the hi/lo hand clutch, but honestly, John Deere set the standard for operator convenient control and environment. Even today, hop on a Deere compact, then try Kabuto or anything else, and you wonder how many arms/legs the other guys think you have. Still liked the sound of the Allis Chalmers pulling the plow on a straight pipe at night.....
@@Colt-tf6xf John Deere is always the best if one could afford them. Used, I could not. In Virginia there is still many N8 fords still working. 4020 was a fuel hog, that was cold blooded and many got overhauled before 5000 hours. Field work I vote for the D17 with mounted equipment again many still working in Virginia and the hills of New York. I had a Deutz I just loved and was 4 wheel drive before anybody else. I ran a Italian SAME that was great at nothing but good at everything. Hydraulics and work lights was optional and the diesel cab heater could have a timer so the cab would warm up in the morning.
@@2148aa never got to run a Duetz, the air-cooled motor was intriguing. I can't say the 4020 was a fuel hog, if you used a lot you really got a lot done, always wanted a D21, what a horse.
Many farmers, including my grandfather, who were actively using their WD for field work back in their day put the WD45 engine kit in them.
4 inch stroke = stock WD engine, 4.5 inch stroke = WD45 engine kit installed. You can measure the piston stroke with a piece of wire inserted through a spark plug hole while turning the engine by hand.
My Dad said the WD45 engine kit made a big difference in usable power for field work, especially on hills.
I still own and use this same tractor. It is now retired from field work, but still useful as a utility tractor with a front-end loader and rear blade. It has plenty of power for its size.
Thank you i appreciate you taking time to teach us blessings!
Our Wd45 had a 6 cylinder desiel engine it, sweetest running tractor ever.
We had one of those too. Dad sure was proud of it. Bought it new. One of the first diesels in the area.
AC bought Buda engine company in 1953 . The WD 45 diesel had a 6 cylinder Buda Engine. When I was in high school I spent many hours on a WD 45 Diesel plowing. We pulled a mounted 3 bottom plow but in certain soils the WD 45 could pull 4 bottoms.
Thank you for the video!
I never knew the difference until I seen this video
I have a WD was told they put a 45 engine in it. Just went to barn and looked its a WD engine. It had wd45 decals on it but I repainted put WD on it. Mine is a 1950 WD it has the straight shifter not curved and didnt have snap coupler till I put it on. Thanks for the info.
looking for the power steering control valve located on the right rear side of the WD 45 engine, need the complete valve body
The wd45 was also available in a 6 cylinder diesel
This is a long shot but I have an old CA that was my grandfathers and has been in the family for over 40 years .. and I can't for the life of me figure out what year it is by the serial number witch is ca-19738 .. would you have any information to help me
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I just bought one I guess it's the WD but my has the distributor horizontal
I have (I think) a WD. but it has the Power Crater motor. So I kinda wonder if it might not be a WD45. It's not currently on my property or I'd go out and check the plate or lack there of.
How do you KNOW it has a "Power Crater" engine? Anybody can put a sticker on the block. The power crater name came from the shape of the top of the piston. If you put those pistons in a WD engine with a 4 inch stroke, you would have less power than with standard flat top pistons.
It could also have a 4.5 inch stroke crank from a 45 and use the power crater pistons making it very close in power to a "real" 45
brokenwrench1 The late WD did NOT use the WD45 block. They did put the constant mesh transmission in the WD, with a curved shifter in 1952. WD's started with the 'so called' 45 transmission ( with curved shifter ) in 1952 at serial WD127007. The 45 with the 226 cu in engine (4.5 inch stroke) started at WD146607.
i lived a couple miles from my AC dealer that had a AC tractor collection . i worked for the dealership as a mechanic. the owner showed me the last WD the dealership got in and the owner showed me that it was a rare WD that had the WD45 block in it he also had a rare wd45 that came out with a 6cyl gas engine used in the A gleaner combines . in my area there were 6 or seven of these in the county and they were experimental models and would handle a 4-14 plow. they were never put into production as the d17 came out the next year. AC put a few test tractors in my area because of the sticky river bottom gumbo soil took more HP to pull the same plow.
There is nothing RARE about a WD with a 45 block in it. Hundreds of them have had the original engine replaced with a 45. The ONLY 6 cylinder Allis put in a WD45 was a diesel and many of them have been changed to a 6 cylinder gas. Nothing rare there either, just NOT factory.
As for you comment about the transmissions, No W series tractors had synchronized gears. The WD till late 1952 had a straight cut spur gear tranny that actually moved the gears to shift and the late 52 WD had helical cut gears with a curved shifter tranny . Collars slid to "shift" gears and the gear itself stayed engaged at all times, hence the constant mesh name. Neither transmission was synchronized.
There are REAL knowledgeable people at allischalmers.com that you could learn from if you were so inclined. There are also a few that "heard" from so and so that their WD came from the factory with a Snap Couple hitch. That never happened either. Many were converted at the dealerships though before being sold "new".
Repeating misinformation does not make it fact
@@brokenwrench1 Interesting. Thanks for info, I never knew that.
I have a 1953 Allis I’m going to check if it’s a Wd or Wd45
Easiest way to identify styled w series tractors is the shifter stick. Wc is a long shifter WD it's straight and the 45 is curved.
Our WD shifter was curved. The WD production spanned several years, and there were subtle changes, like that.
Correct Tubefluid. Later WD's had the curved
Curved gear shift lever, but that also indicated a different model transmission. I only own an earlier model and 2 WC's.
Easiest way to tell the difference is the gear shift the 45's is crooked, the wd is straight. I have a wd, grew up using both the wd and wd 45.
A wd with a Leroy engine doesn't have a plate on the side of the engine
this is not true about the last year production wd in 52 or 53 the wd used the same block and transmission. you could take a wc or a wd and put the wd45 crankshaft in it with the piston set then change the intake and carb and you would have a wd45 in a wd block
the wd had a non syncronized gear set in the trans with a straight gear shift until 53 the wd and wd45 had a curved gear shift with the heavier gears the wd was 36 hp the wd45 was 45-47 hp with standard pistons
By the way, that WD45 decal on the nose of that tractor is INCORRECT! They don't look like that!
What's the difference between a WD and WC?
We had hand brakes and long,thin shifter that came out of the transmission right behind the bell housing and had no factory hydraulics. Also, the throttle was horizontal and the lever engaged notches.
WDs had straight shifters that came up near the steering wheel support, had vertical quadrants behind the steering wheel for throttle on right and hydraulic lever on left. Most WDs were sliding gear transmissions, while late WDs and 45s were constant mesh transmissions with curved shifter in the same location.
They also had traction booster,but 45s had snap coupler factory installed.
What about WC?
Just look for hand brake levers or foot brake pedals. WC=hand brakes, WD/WD45=foot brakes
When I was a kid my dad had an Allis Chalmer it had no Pro no hydraulics
That was no Pto no hydraulics hand brakes I was wondering if anyone New what model it was.
@@retire551 Rubber or steel? Probably a WF or early WC?
Go to Tractordata.com for more info. It's easy to spend hours there. :)
I believe the WD 45 was the only one with the hand clutch.
Incorrect and not logical. The difference in years will vary that block plate. The easiest is the shifter. Straight up is wd. Curved is a 45. Plain and simple.
Later WD's had a curved shifter. We had one.
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It doesn't matter which one you have, hardly anyone else wants one now, there are so many nicer, better Allis Chalmers models that are easier to get on/off, easier to steer etc. Oliver Wendall Douglas hung on to his HoytClagwell far too long, he should have gotten a 4020.
Sure glad you didn't see the power steering pump on the WD 45.
@@2148aa my uncle had one with no power steering, jeezlouise it needed it, we had a D15, it had it and it was so much nicer, plus the hi/lo hand clutch, but honestly, John Deere set the standard for operator convenient control and environment. Even today, hop on a Deere compact, then try Kabuto or anything else, and you wonder how many arms/legs the other guys think you have. Still liked the sound of the Allis Chalmers pulling the plow on a straight pipe at night.....
@@Colt-tf6xf John Deere is always the best if one could afford them. Used, I could not. In Virginia there is still many N8 fords still working. 4020 was a fuel hog, that was cold blooded and many got overhauled before 5000 hours. Field work I vote for the D17 with mounted equipment again many still working in Virginia and the hills of New York. I had a Deutz I just loved and was 4 wheel drive before anybody else. I ran a Italian SAME that was great at nothing but good at everything. Hydraulics and work lights was optional and the diesel cab heater could have a timer so the cab would warm up in the morning.
@@2148aa never got to run a Duetz, the air-cooled motor was intriguing. I can't say the 4020 was a fuel hog, if you used a lot you really got a lot done, always wanted a D21, what a horse.
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