@@bprosperous445I don't think is lore what you win looking at this (mostly because of the Leyends idea), is more like appreciate the work from the writers to use and rescue rejected characters and locations from the movies
I love Grevious’s bizarre sense of honor. He’ll play dirty and steal weapons from the dead but he’s willing to fight to the death to save Dooku out of pure respect for him.
@@jeffumbach I don't think he has any enforcing cybernetics, he's literally hanged up on dooku multiple times mid sentence, so it's more of following orders than respect or enslaving cybernetics
@@jeffumbach it’s more so Grievous’ obsession with killing the Jedi. Yes, he’s not killing Jedi in this instance, but if he follows through with a task he’s ordered to complete, his chances of killing Jedi are raised under the assumption he’s assigned to larger scale battles which are likely to involve Jedi, if he succeeds.
My favourite part of this is when Dooku called Grievous, the way that every few seconds Grievous will look down to see Dooku like "yeah don't worry, I'm still listening" because he's fighting at the same time but doesn't want to seem rude 😂
There’s multiple times throughout SW (especially thanks to the animated series) that the holo discs, or whatever they’re called, are used in the way you mentioned. I LOVE when they do that, it’s not like mf wouldn’t be using those all the time just as how we use ft in the modern day
I would have lovee to be in the writers room when they came up with this "Hey, Greivous lost to Gungans, what can we do to make him badass again?" "Oh, I know, let's have him commit genocide" "Brilliant!"
Before he got hugely debuffed for the "kids show", General Grievous would've wiped the floor with the entire Night Sisters' cult single-handedly if Dooku told him to.
I mean the night sisters were literally sith witches so of the Droid army didn't get to them the Republic would have sent a kill team against them sooner or later
I imagine he had the worst case of Stomach Flu symptoms with that magic on top of a raging headache with that needle thing going through his head. I kinda know how he feels.
Axton Dragunov nah, the republic most likely knows better than to start a fight against the Nightsisters, their magic is mysterious and basically the only people capable of using it, not to mention they’re very powerful with it too.
Nobody ever talks about the fact that Grievous is the most loaly boy of all of the show? He never questions an order or planing to betray dooku in his weakend state.
Well, kinda ruins the fact he's the ultimate bro but, when he became a cyborg Dooku made sure he would be an obedient ally. So he implanted a device in his brain in order to make him an obedient killing machine. Before, he was more of a selfish and arrogant warlord who would only care for his people
"I was only a child when they attacked. An armored warrior brandishing this descended upon us and cut down my people. My sisters. Until I was left alone with the dead." -Nightsister Merrin
I think they made the droids a little bullshit in this show, like grievous. I mean, they outnumbered the clones, and I get they were cheap, but come on.
@@kristiwilbanks794 true, sure they weren’t the greatest, cheap, easy to kill, and had bad blasters, but they outnumbered them, were usually easy to make, and again, cheap to produce. Yet in the show they rarely win. But this and that moment they killed a Jedi was their time
@@yapyapthedestroyer2562 yeah, I believe in the separatist cause, but the clones are so much better. I found myself rooting for the droids in some battles.
cazza710 How so? She had no exposure to the universe outside her own planet and bias... all she knew was a warrior with green and blue lightsabers and an army wiped her people off the face of existence
"truly one of the most fearsome lightsaber duelists" >literally loses nearly every lightsaber duel in the clone wars, including here. there's one point in this show where he loses to ahsoka and some younglings after boldly claiming "no one can defeat grievous" at least the movie grievous, for his faults, was intimidating. 2008 grievous is just a joke
One of the Clone Wars' best episodes! Grevious went in hard to the paint in that episode, he literally ran through them hoes. I wish the tone of the show were geared more toward the adults 25+ with a more serious tone to graphic warfare and its outcomes from both factions' choices but at least LucasFilm's pushed as far they were willing to go for younger viewers with its depictions of violence, plots, and great storytelling before Disney acquired the rights. (We all know it has been a letdown ever since, other than the Mandalorian & Rouge One)
There's a comic book story from back then where Dooku has both Ventress and Durge fight Grievous together to test him, and he utterly defeats them both. Those were the days!
@@colingreen5553 The story is called "Rogue's Gallery" and was released in "Star Wars - Clone Wars Adventures vol. 3". :) They're done in the style of the old Clone Wars show, but the stories are pretty neat small glimpses of the war.
@America Chavez Well, I get what you're saying, but it's not really this one instance alone, but the whole of TCW. The show ignored a lot of previously established lore (that is now "Legends"), including backstories, personalities and power levels of characters. Grievous from the former Clone Wars Multimedia Project and Grievous from TCW are basically two different characters. The former Grievous was someone who only the very best of Jedi had a chance against, he defeated multiple Jedi council members and even fought Mace freakin' Windu to a stalemate - Ventress probably couldn't defeat someone like that, Dathomir and her observations or not. See, I don't mind Grievous (or, the CIS in general) loosing sometimes, but in the show it's plain silly. They always loose, they always flee, they're always incompetent. With the way Grievous is portrayed, it doesn't even make sense why Dooku would make him the supreme leader of the CIS armies. Formerly, the fight Grievous had against Durge and Ventress that I mentioned was meant to be a test by Dooku to see who should lead.
@America Chavez Grievous fights Mace to a stalemate in the Labyrinth of Evil novel. ;) About TCW, you seem to interpret these events in ways they're not really depicted in the show itself. All the Jedi characters, and even a Padawan like Ahsoka, throw jokes at Grievous and don't really seem to be afraid of him at all, or even take him seriously. Yeah, Ahsoka runs from him, but not after holding her own against him, and then even physically overpowering his grasp, cutting his hand off - this is 14 year old season one Ahsoka, mind you. The few victories he gets are by "cheating", he defeats Eeth Koth only with his Magna Guards, Ventress almost defeats him on Dathomir before he lets his droids shoot. He kills minor nobody Jedi Knight Nadhar Vebb, to then get his ass handed to him by Kit Fisto. Someone with the speed and reflexes to fight on par with Jedi Masters wouldn't even let himself get hit by the Gungan EMPs, let alone be humiliated to badly. No, sorry, it's just vastly different, you can't deny that. They even talk about that in the commentaries of both shows. As I've said, I don't need him to be OP or always winning, but to be honest, I found little to be exciting in the TCW show when the villains are usually incompetent and always fall for the Jedi's tricks, and the Republic ends up winning in 95% of the stories anyways.
Dooku: "Grievous, hurry up and kill that witch!" Grievous: "Sure sure, but let me just take a little stroll and enjoy the scenery of this planet just a little longer."
Count Dooku: “Hurry it up Grievous before that witch - Grievous: … Count Dooku: “WHY DOES IT LOOK LIKE YOU ARE TAKING A LIESURELY STROLL. Do you not see that the witch is killing me?!” Grievous: “you killed Gorr.” Dooku: … Grievous: *laugh cough cough laugh*
After all the injustices Grievous went through in the whole show (even in this very episode with Ventress) I’m glad I got to see my favorite character charging into battle leading his troops from the vanguard like the champion he truly is.
you know OG clone wars Grevious was actually pretty honorable. he didn't really resort to cheap tactics other than what was built into him, didn't duel any Jedi while his army was attacking them (at least not on screen) and only used all of his arms one time. REAL FREAKING ACCURATE CN!!!
@@liamdalemon1525 not entirely true. The first time we saw him he used "cheap tactics" by having his army wear the jedi down to the point they were exhausted and afraid of dying. Thats how he was able to fight them so effortlessly. They were already worn out. Thats not "honorable."
@@liamdalemon1525 LOL Piss off with that nonsense. The "og clone wars grevious"" was NOT at all "acTUaLLY prETtY hOnoRaBlE" at all, you're a fool for deluding yourself into saying that because he was restoring to "Cheap tactics" in the "og clone wars" you fool. Stop with your whining as if grievous was EVER honorable. And this WAS "REAL FREAKING ACCURATE" to how grevious was rewritten to be AFTER lucas changed in Episode 3 and Grevious was NEVER "honorable" as you've deluded yourself into thinking that he was. Stop whining over nothing you fool, you're not making any sense with your bad complaints. Don't know what this "CN" nonsense you're going on about but if you mean cartoon network than you're out of your mind because this IS "ACCURATE" to new canon material of grievous' character that he made.
I think the 4:14 part is the most horrifying part as it portrays how cruel grievous truly was, as when he stepped into the room,the witch on the ground was trembling as she was begging for mercy but grievous almost looked delighted to see her in such condition, he didn't even stop to gloat about his victory, he just mercilessly stabbed everyone. Gotta admit grievous commitment.
Makes sense why he didn’t gloat, he was overconfident with the fight against ventures, which cost him the fight, dooku was dying and grievous needed to hurry up. And he was likely fed up with the whole mess.
I personally would have liked it if the duel between Ventress and Grievous was on even footing, but then Grievous receives Dooku’s new orders mid fight. That way, when he uses the droid army, it’s not a bail out due to him losing, but due to him suddenly having a time constraint.
My guess on why Grevious lost so easily to Ventress is due to them being on Dathomir, which is a dark side nexus, making Ventress more powerful there. That and Ventress didnt feel any fear, intimidation, or surprise towards grevious, all things Dooku said that Grevious needs in a fight
@@pilkers2 The point is that he didn't, Ventress already pulled her lightsabers back for a swing, and since Grevious isnt a force user, he wouldn't have the agility to grab his lightsabers, ignite them, and block. And if he tried to kick her, Ventress could just cut his foot off with ease.
The CIS and Grevious were the perfect counter to the nightsisters. What use is your dark magic and fear againest a cold unfeeling and ruthless machine?
In Jedi fallen order the tactical bio guide for the undead nightsister says “few have seen an Undead nightsister and survived” yet grievous casually slices around 20-30 of them in seconds proves how strong he is even in canon
There is a scene where Grievous defeats Kenobi's fleet, marches over some troops and gets the upperhand on Kenobi in a brief exchange forcing Kenobi to give up the ship after taking over Florrum Was a good scene but yh he only gets one in a blue moon
@@TheSCPStudio Nope. He the bigger picture, Grevious eliminated the night sister clan as a side effect of his actions not the original intent but Grevious met the sister clan full force to protect Mother Tolzin including raising their dead(sh*t just got real), but he eliminated their clan's identity and safe haven for any survivors, plus Grievous killed the ones who held their secrets so they cannot pass down to any new successors and reduced Mother Tolzin to a vengeful spirit so yeah, he eliminated a major threat to Sidious as a side effect when he rescued Dooku. Read Sons of Dathimer comic with Palpatine comments about Mother Tolzin.
@@Pyrodorah No, they only screwed the ninth film, because fans were sooo angry after Episode 8. They nailed TCW season 7, they nailed The Mandalorian, and without them, I don’t think that people would still be talking about Star Wars these days...
Doku: grievous, hurry, im liteally dying right now Grievous: yeah, about that, remember how you made some jedi get into my house and kill my pet Doku: are you really bringing this up now? Grievous: yes *slows down even more*
Doku: cough fine cough I will buy you a new pet Gork. Grievous:Mhm that's still not enough. Doku: Alright cough I will upgrade your ship and give you better battle droids. Grievous: With the hyperdrive I wanted too? Doku: YES cough anything just hurry up cough. Grievous:Laughs excellent hangs up. Grievous jumps on the hull of the tank and screams:Alright hustle up and shoot faster at anything that is not a droid
@@dr.boring7022 Grievous: Not me you tin cans Im talking about the witches Droids:Roger Roger Grivous:cough no wonder I can bearly win a battle with those
Ventress: So I returned to you, seeking vengeance against my master who betrayed me Talzin: Yes Ventress: And we made multiple attempts on his life, and it wasn’t until our most dire moment, that you reveal that you could make a voodoo doll that could kill him from billions of miles away? Talzin:
@@goldenstatewarriors9418 Ventress: Who’s Darth Maul? Talzin: The former apprentice to Darth Sideous. The one your master replaced. Ventress: Does he hate my master too? Talzin: Yes Ventress: would he be willing to help? Talzin: No he’s off working with Death Watch Ventress: Don’t they also hate Dooku? Could they help? Talzin: Well, no, they’re trying to take over Mandalorian with help from the Hutts Ventress: Like Jabba? Dooku kidnapped his son. He hates Dooku. Can we ask him for help? Talzin: I mean, I don’t know him… Ventress: Can any of these powerful people who hate my former master serve as allies? Talzin: …Idk, just go be a bounty hunter or something
@@aidankeohane3370 This was 2 episodes before Darth Maul was found alive. This episode was season 4 episode 19. The story where Savage finds him is Season 4 Episode 21 and 22. The Mandalore arc is season 5 episode 14-16. So when the massacre happened, Darth maul was an insane shriveled creature living in the junk fields.
@@aidankeohane3370 LOL You're not making any sense. Mother Talzin doesn't know everything and no duh nobody is gonna help ventress kill dooku because NONE of those guys like each other at all. They're all trying to secure power for themselves. NONE of those guys were going to assist Ventress and all Ventress could have DONE is bounty hunting.
LOL what? That doesn't make any sense. The voodoo doll could NOT have killed him "billions of miles away", The Voodoo could only kill with a set distance and needed required elements from dooku to be sick as Dooku WAS captured, stop making up horrible complaints that aren't vaild at all. You're literally whining and complaining over nothing, you fool! Piss off this complaint you're nonsense because you're not making any sense.
Separatists against the Republic: Dumb as hell and constantly lose Separatists against literally anyone else: Mega Chads that demolish and desecrate entire armies without breaking a sweat (edit) can you guys stop arguing over the same argument from like 15 years ago I'm trying to goon over nerfed Grievous.
Grievous should’ve kicked Ventress’s ass without the use of a cheap move like that. According to lore, he could learn and pick up almost any light saber form of combat with ease in a matter of minutes of dueling the force wielder. This is what helped him become such an effective Jedi killer.
Personally, I feel that this episode showed how powerful the droid army was, as well as how powerful Grievous really was. Even though he had to pull a cheap trick, I do believe that he would have won without the trick since he is able to learn someone's fighting style while in combat very quickly
Only injustice here was that he lost to Ventress. He should have won that fight, no questions asked, especially with how Ventress was just recklessly swinging, and Grievous is an offencive juggernaut.
@@jeffumbach Grievous be like: "Yo, sup? Am about to massacre the friends of your old girl and finishing the job, lost an arm and some forces, but it's good, I'm having the fun of my *life!* Need something?“
@@pilkers2 Ventress was nowhere near Dooku's level of power here. Like, literally not too long ago she, along with two other nightsisters, attempted to assassinate Dooku, even putting him in a severely impaired state yet they all got thrown out a window in the end. Dooku never let Ventress become powerful enough to rival him on any level.
@@pilkers2 Really? I don't mean to invalidate your view, but I can't really see where it's coming from. Dooku was a former Jedi master, literally the one that trained Qui-gon Jinn, and when Ventress went to assassinate him, she poisoned him to blind his senses. Yet he overpowered and nearly killed her. Lastly, Ventress wasn't trained to be sith, she was trained to be an assassin. Dooku would've never allowed her to grow strong enough to rival him, and she really never did. I'd like to know what you mean by "She was near Dooku's power level just not as strong." What's the difference between power and strength in the context that you phrased it in?
@@DeathIsLethal ventress almost killed dooku in the assassination dooku only survived because of his force lightning and darth sidious himself said ventress was becoming to powerful
@@codafett Yes true, lol are you for real? Even the staff of the 2003 series said that Lucas didn’t want grevious as competent and cool at all and preferred him as a run away villain, as seen as in Revenge of the Sith. You make absolutely NO sense here at all denying that. Get with the picture and realize that it IS true entirely and completely!
@@codafett lol that’s not true at all. It’s NOT “fiLoNi’s fAult aNd aLwAYs hAs beEN” lol not even close and that’s a FANTASTIC way to disregard the truth here as not a SINGLE episode of star wars the clone wars has been passed through without Lucas giving the greenlit as he literally watches all the episodes. I CAN pin it all on Lucas as he’s literally the ONLY one on staff that wanted grevious to be that way and as the creator of the franchise, nothing gets passed without him giving the approval. Even the staff calls out how grevious continually keeps losing. Stop acting like no one other than Lucas wanted grevious to be a joke because they didn’t. Lucas NEVER “stepped away” after Star Wars the clone wars before he sold it to Disney, and when that happened Clone Wars was cancelled and when it came back, grevious wasn’t in season 7 except for a single image of him.
Honestly the horror factor and speed of those zombies would have been super effective against nearly any army. A shame that the one they were up against was made of unthinking, unfeeling droids
The Nightsisters went up against a platoon of B1’s, several squads of commando droids, B2 super battle droids, and AAT tanks. They had no chance of winning.
I have to wonder how an equivalent Republic force would have stood up against them. Would the living Clone troops have been heavily weakened by the fear factor of how unknown the Nightsisters were and the scariness of the zombies?
i like how he puts loyalty before his unsettled scores, yeah he came to kill a traitor, but when someone tries to kill duku, you better bring more then voodoo and witchcraft
@@apomtaylor8054 lol? he literally threatens that he may "kill dooku himself one day" and later when dooku manages to open his cell door he insults him, saying " so you were useful FOR ONCE, count"
That's because when he became the cyborg he is now dooku made sure that he was programmed to always follow dookus command, he literally cannot do anything but follow orders
I miss the old Grievous. The one that could kill an entire room full of jedi, including a master in just a few seconds. _That_ Grievous was a legitimate threat. All this one can do is order the death of some blaster fodder.
I like to think that Grievous purposely made himself lose to lure Ventress right into the middle of his droids, to separate her from her clan and eliminate her early in the battle. Once that was done, they proceeded to sweep the nightsisters.
Grevious and the Droid Army delivering some Confederate Justice to the clan that brainwashed Savage Oppress and made him kill his own brother. I can’t believe I’m rooting for the unsympathetic villain(canon Grevious) over the mildly sympathetic one(Ventress). Eh Nightsisters are an oppressive bunch so it makes sense.
Grievous is truly a terrifying character, even with the injustice served to him in this show - This still shows his ability to methodically kill his enemies, and lead troops into combat - he'll always be my favorite 🖤
Honestly I think Maul was supposed to be the most capable as a hunter, sent to faraway lands to eliminate important targets, dooku was supposed to be the duelist who could outfinesse the jedi and general grievous was neither, he was the one who is the most tactically sound and was a priority target on-field because he could out-strategise wars more than dooku or Maul. They all had their strengths
3:30 This scene is so badass. It looks like the imperial march during the raid of the Jedi Temple, but instead of Skywalker and the Republic, its Grievous with the Separatists. Also in 4:33 the commando droids in this scene are so damn chilling to see as they side by side hit crouch to shoot one handedly at the remaining night sisters.
My favorite part is how un-halted grevious' march is. Man literally is just laughing and giving orders, ripping their arms off, throwing them down, stomping and walking over them. Man, when grevious is doin something good he is fucking badass. Ending was good too, those chuckles before he just grabbed the helpless fucks and stabbed em was great.
@@misterlist3140 Yeah, Dooku and Palpatine were both going full-throttle in their force lightning thing, even Mother Talzin couldn't keep up, so Grievous could just step right in and impale her with the saber.
So, Count Dooku's body at 80-something could endure all of the voodoo torture that Mother Talzin did to him, but Luke Skywalker at 53 couldn't endure projecting himself to another planet for less than 20 minutes without dying?
@The Ravenshe sure was empowered by Dathomir, doesn't matter tho. Never said she was stronger normally, just that she clapped his cheeks here And did he really have the upper hand tho? Just because he kicked her once?
This is the Grievous we needed more of in Clone Wars. Commiting genocide and fighting powerful force wielders, but not being too OP like he is the 2003 Clone Wars since his lungs were crushed. They should've brought him back in season 7 along with Anakin and Obi-Wan instead of the Martez sisters or wtv tf their names were.
The Martez sisters were cool imo, but the point of bringing them in was to change the pace up a bit. Having 12 episodes of intense battles and war wouldn't have been the best idea imo.
@@wonderguardstalker yeah grievous was so damn cool in the 2003 show, tho def a bit too op imo. I do feel like the Jedi should've been able to literally just force crush him this whole time lmao like why do they never use the force on him. It's still fun seeing him as the crippled, slimy bastard of a general he is in the 3D CW show tho, he's enjoyable in a different way, but they really nerfed the fuck outta him lmao.
I think we needed More episode , purely and simply . We needed at least a trilogy for son of dathomir ( grievous freaking killed mother talzin in there ), we needed an arc for Anakin wielding guns ...we needed more .
When you realize that Palpatine's greatest threat during the Clone Wars was actually Mother Talzin. If she had decided to not mess around by torturing Dooku, and simply killed him, Palpatine's entire plan could have been ruined. Grevious wouldn't have known how to find Old Daka, thus the nightsister zombies wouldn't have ever stopped coming, and Grevious would have likely been overrun and killed. And even if he escaped, he doesn't have the connections or charisma to hold together the Separatists which would have inevitably led to infighting and soon enough the destruction of the Separatists from the inside out. Regardless, with Dooku and Grevious out of the picture, the Clone Wars would have pretty much come to a close, and Palpatine would not only lose his place as Chancellor, but he also wouldn't have the right leverage to corrupt Anakin.
I always love seeing stories like these for the "bad guy" pov. Not that the nightsisters where good, but it's always interesting seeing the workings of the normal enemies.
I love grievous he's allways trash talking like 'enough of this' to show that he was just taking his time and having fun while she was fighting for her life
I like how the droids don't even hesitate to start shooting like they do with the protagonists. The show would've been way more interesting if they did that all the time. I figure this is how most battles for the CIS go.
People all saying in the comments how this is one of the only good Grievous scenes. But you know what, I think they’re all good. Canon Grievous is a whole different thing than legends Grievous; he’s a pragmatic killer, because when all your enemies can use basically magic which you don’t have, you SHOULD fight dirty to even the field. And he does, all the time. And it works for him. He’s literally just a dude with a metal body and four arms, and that’s basically all he has over Jedi, witches, Sith, whatever; they can match his enhanced reflexes with the force or witch magic, and can fuck him over with it too in its offensive uses. Honor isn’t something that he cares about, glory isn’t something he cares about, calling him a coward or a pansy for forsaking that in favor of ‘dirty tricks’ is just incorrect. This isn’t an art he practices, it’s his job.
He's just taking advantage of the disadvantage others have. In the case of a Force User, an army of thousands of Battle Droids who wipe out everyone standing in his way. You can have the Force and a Light Sabre but as shown with Ima-Gun-Di, you can't stop a neverending train of clankers.
'Literally just a dude with a metal body and four arms' just goes to show how little of a shit you actually give about the character. He was supposed to be a warrior, someone who was referred to as a demigod by his people. He's not just some guy with a sword, he was supposed to be the perfect killing machine, and the 2003 actually acts like it. Even in the 2008 show's context, it's made pretty damn clear that it's not just his job. He has a very personal vendetta against the entire Jedi order (although the reasons they give are stupid and petty as fuck). 2003 Grievous didn't fight 'fair' either, his torso could rotate and he could one shot people by crushing their fucking skulls with his talons, not to mention all the fear tactics he used to break their focus, which 2008 doesn't do at all. He's treated like a god damn joke most of the time, except for scenes like these and maybe his first battle against Ahsoka. He's just very poorly portrayed in this show, which is a shame because it's fantastic in almost every other way, but like, even Revenge of the Sith portrays him a lot better. He breaks open the space glass or whatever to get away from Anakin and Obi Wan, then runs away on his escape pod, but at the same time, he later engaged Obi-Wan in single combat when he could have just had him shot to death, something a lot more honorable than the kind of shit he does in this show. Like, Nahdar Vebb was just a cocky Jedi Knight, by all means Grievous should have been able to simply overwhelm him, but instead he resorts to pulling out a blaster and shooting him in the gut? Wtf? He didn't have the dignity to at least ignite a lightsaber through him with his 3rd arm? It's just bad. It's almost as if Dave Filoni had some sort of personal vendetta against the character, which is a shame because 2003 Grievous is one of my most favorite characters in anything ever, and IS my favorite character in all of Star Wars. He just wasn't done justice here.
Dooku’s desperation in his voice when he’s giving Grievous the order to kill Mother Talson disturbed me as a kid. You could tell he was genuinely terrified.
Anyone else impressed the Nightsisters almost single-handedly killed a Sith Lord and chopped the head off of one of the two major powers in the Star Wars galaxy?
1:58. I like how he’s taking on like 20 zombies at a time People also call Him a coward. Yet he’s the only leader I see besides the Jedi. Fighting in front or on the front lines. Rather than in the back or at a command center
She would have gone flying back, deflected off the ramp and barrelled into the controls of the cockpit like a TABS peasant launched by a ballista bolt.
I always loved the kind of bitter sibling relationship these two had. Like Grievous is Asajj’s brother with that line “I’ve always been greater than you!” And Daddy Dooku is like “KIDS STOP FIGHTING I NEED MY MEDICINE!!!!”
Though it is nice to see Grievous grab a win, it's still a little disappointing he didn't win his fight against Ventress. It could have made sense, too. Ventress is used to having an edge in lightsaber fights because of her having two blades, so it would have been more disorienting for her to face someone with the same advantage on her she usually has on other people
@@madgavin7568 Blame Lucas for that. He didn't like grevious being a badass and he wanted him to be a joke so they can ONLY potray grevious as a weak coward.
@@madgavin7568 yeah seriously, the team, if you actually watch the behind the scene, were actually very GLAD that grievous FINALLY got a won to himself here. That’s amazing on how even the producers can’t overrule what Lucas ultimately wants.
The only reason though she manages to block all four of his lightsabers with her two is because he's not using his second pair of arms independently often enough, really he should have been able to block hers and get her with one of his extra arms.
They did Grievous dirty in the clone wars. Went from a truly terrifying, smart and formidable opponent in 2003 to an arrogant buffoon in TCW. A hint of that 2003 energy is seen only here, with him saving his master's life and tearing down a powerful organisation with brute force. I wish he had more scenes like this, as he's one of my favourite Star Wars characters.
@@ledanoir1239 yeah we don't know if Disney actually considers that canon. As cool as it was. Besides most of the time 3d grievous usually ends up fighting people who are supposed to survive at least til ep 3. Which i feel like takes away of what could have been with him
@@ledanoir1239 yeah i also look at it this way. It's a much more realistic Grievous in the sense of taking on space wizards who can wreck you in 3 seconds if you aren't careful, not to mention multiple. Ventress still counts as a space wizard/witch. Usually if you were in his position you'd have to resort to tricks and outside help to beat them. Which is how I imagine mandalorians usually killed them
So this is basically why in the Jedi Fallen Order video game, Merrin attacked Cal because she blamed Jedi and Sith and anyone holding a lightsaber on Dathomir due to General Grevious's actions of wiping out all the Night Sisters in the Clone Wars. Eventually Cal explained to her that the Jedi were not responsible for this and Merrin aided him against the Imperial Empire at the time of Vader.
This was one of droids army's best and most successful battles against a potentially very tough opponent and they won. Grevious job was not to win duels it was to win battles and he did that here. It also shows the limits of all force welders. No matter how powerful when faced with an army they will lose.
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I gotta say... seeing a cyborg and his robot army fighting a cult of witches and their army of zombies was actually pretty cool.
Imagine explaining this to someone who has never seen Star Wars lol
@@XevenYT143Or even to someone who's seen all 6 films but not The Clone Wars.
@@mikeexitsbingo, the amount of lore & story you miss out on if you never watch is crazy
@@bprosperous445I don't think is lore what you win looking at this (mostly because of the Leyends idea), is more like appreciate the work from the writers to use and rescue rejected characters and locations from the movies
I love Grevious’s bizarre sense of honor. He’ll play dirty and steal weapons from the dead but he’s willing to fight to the death to save Dooku out of pure respect for him.
How much of it is respect and how much of it is the cybernetics in his brain enforcing his loyalty?
3:42 me too.
@@jeffumbach I don't think he has any enforcing cybernetics, he's literally hanged up on dooku multiple times mid sentence, so it's more of following orders than respect or enslaving cybernetics
@@jeffumbach it’s more so Grievous’ obsession with killing the Jedi. Yes, he’s not killing Jedi in this instance, but if he follows through with a task he’s ordered to complete, his chances of killing Jedi are raised under the assumption he’s assigned to larger scale battles which are likely to involve Jedi, if he succeeds.
Different cultures have different ideas of what constitutes"fighting dirty" and claiming weapons from one's defeated enemy wasn't usually frowned upon
My favourite part of this is when Dooku called Grievous, the way that every few seconds Grievous will look down to see Dooku like "yeah don't worry, I'm still listening" because he's fighting at the same time but doesn't want to seem rude 😂
Which is ironic, considering he hung up on Dooku several times XD
😂😂😂
Also grievous save dooku life
There’s multiple times throughout SW (especially thanks to the animated series) that the holo discs, or whatever they’re called, are used in the way you mentioned. I LOVE when they do that, it’s not like mf wouldn’t be using those all the time just as how we use ft in the modern day
I would have lovee to be in the writers room when they came up with this
"Hey, Greivous lost to Gungans, what can we do to make him badass again?"
"Oh, I know, let's have him commit genocide"
"Brilliant!"
Dominic Carrano this planet and it’s beings are so dope it’s too bad
@@nicksidoti4195 meh
To put it in simple terms. Cyborgs and robots vs Witches and zombies.....say what you want but this is some cool genocide.
Nick Sidoti as well as the name ‘Dathomir’
Yes
I like how Grevious is taking his sweet time while Count Dooku is minutes from dying.
That’s one of the reasons why he didn’t continue the duel
@@pilkers2 Nope
Matt Heston yes
He was probably still salty about dooku letting Jedi infiltrate his castle in vassek
@@alaskanbullworm5500 well that make let his pet gor die.
3:35 I love how grievous isn’t even remotely scared he’s just 1000% done with the nightsisters bullshit
Grievous is like “HAX I CALL HAX!”
Ahahha yes Grievous legend
Before he got hugely debuffed for the "kids show", General Grievous would've wiped the floor with the entire Night Sisters' cult single-handedly if Dooku told him to.
@@Vikingr4Jesus5919 he was "debuffed" for revenge of the sith lol
@@Vikingr4Jesus5919He just did wipe the floor with the cult in this video. Are you blind?
Everyone talking about the genocide and all but can you imagine the amount of relief Dooku must’ve felt after the spell was broken and all that?
He blacked out shortly afterwards because of the path he felt
I mean the night sisters were literally sith witches so of the Droid army didn't get to them the Republic would have sent a kill team against them sooner or later
I imagine he had the worst case of Stomach Flu symptoms with that magic on top of a raging headache with that needle thing going through his head. I kinda know how he feels.
Axton Dragunov nah, the republic most likely knows better than to start a fight against the Nightsisters, their magic is mysterious and basically the only people capable of using it, not to mention they’re very powerful with it too.
@@michaelzhang9806 I mean when Palpatine took over the clones had more than enough ability to pretty much wipe out the jedi
Nobody ever talks about the fact that Grievous is the most loaly boy of all of the show?
He never questions an order or planing to betray dooku in his weakend state.
He isn’t following the jedi code or Sith code but the bro code
Y e s
Grievous truly was the greatest of my apprentices.
Well, kinda ruins the fact he's the ultimate bro but, when he became a cyborg Dooku made sure he would be an obedient ally. So he implanted a device in his brain in order to make him an obedient killing machine. Before, he was more of a selfish and arrogant warlord who would only care for his people
@@Alex-go2pw the caring of his people isn’t that bad in his peoples minds. Also wasn’t that in legends,that dooku had it in his brain, and not cannon
"I was only a child when they attacked. An armored warrior brandishing this descended upon us and cut down my people. My sisters. Until I was left alone with the dead."
-Nightsister Merrin
Merrin, the last nightsister.
Jedi fallen order? Noiceee
Noooo how they kill the witches who terrorize planet noooooooo
She then met a Jedi and decided to restart the Nightsisters.
Am I the only one that slows this down to a play by play and tries to find here even theough she is obviously not there.
Possibly the droid army’s best moment in the show, even for the b1 battledroids
I think they made the droids a little bullshit in this show, like grievous. I mean, they outnumbered the clones, and I get they were cheap, but come on.
@@kristiwilbanks794 true, sure they weren’t the greatest, cheap, easy to kill, and had bad blasters, but they outnumbered them, were usually easy to make, and again, cheap to produce. Yet in the show they rarely win. But this and that moment they killed a Jedi was their time
@@yapyapthedestroyer2562 yeah, I believe in the separatist cause, but the clones are so much better. I found myself rooting for the droids in some battles.
@@kristiwilbanks794 some battles they should’ve won, but of course, they didn’t. Them b1’s though are still gooch
@@yapyapthedestroyer2562 yup.
I was only a child when they attacked. An armoured warrior, brandishing this, descended upon us and cut down my people, my sisters
is this from jedi fallen order?
sounds like what they said there
@General Grievous 😂
General Grievous ... You’re shorter than I expected...
I refuse to believe that Merrin completely believed the Jedi were responsible, its ridiculous
cazza710 How so? She had no exposure to the universe outside her own planet and bias... all she knew was a warrior with green and blue lightsabers and an army wiped her people off the face of existence
Grevious was never force sensitive. But he was truly one of the most fearsome lightsaber duelists you could ever encounter.
This is because Grievous is 99,9% machine.
Imagine greivous with force powers basically vader
"truly one of the most fearsome lightsaber duelists"
>literally loses nearly every lightsaber duel in the clone wars, including here. there's one point in this show where he loses to ahsoka and some younglings after boldly claiming "no one can defeat grievous"
at least the movie grievous, for his faults, was intimidating. 2008 grievous is just a joke
@@essenced7485 no where near vaders level but he’d be pretty powerful
@@hobomike6935 the animated greivous actually lived up to his name
"Forget Ventress! Our new target is Mother Talzin. Follow me!"
Idk why, but I always loved that line.
Me too, shows his focus on the objective.
Wish I could also be so clear about my objectives. Instead, I'm wasting hours and days on youtube.
@@thedokkodoka4349 dude you the true, I'm feeling this too
One of the Clone Wars' best episodes! Grevious went in hard to the paint in that episode, he literally ran through them hoes. I wish the tone of the show were geared more toward the adults 25+ with a more serious tone to graphic warfare and its outcomes from both factions' choices but at least LucasFilm's pushed as far they were willing to go for younger viewers with its depictions of violence, plots, and great storytelling before Disney acquired the rights. (We all know it has been a letdown ever since, other than the Mandalorian & Rouge One)
It was said on that very night- Not a single "F" was given when Grevious arrive to meet the Night Sister clan.
2004 grievous would have torn ventress to shreds.
There's a comic book story from back then where Dooku has both Ventress and Durge fight Grievous together to test him, and he utterly defeats them both. Those were the days!
TheDragonoftheWest damn what’s it called?
@@colingreen5553 The story is called "Rogue's Gallery" and was released in "Star Wars - Clone Wars Adventures vol. 3". :) They're done in the style of the old Clone Wars show, but the stories are pretty neat small glimpses of the war.
@America Chavez Well, I get what you're saying, but it's not really this one instance alone, but the whole of TCW. The show ignored a lot of previously established lore (that is now "Legends"), including backstories, personalities and power levels of characters. Grievous from the former Clone Wars Multimedia Project and Grievous from TCW are basically two different characters. The former Grievous was someone who only the very best of Jedi had a chance against, he defeated multiple Jedi council members and even fought Mace freakin' Windu to a stalemate - Ventress probably couldn't defeat someone like that, Dathomir and her observations or not. See, I don't mind Grievous (or, the CIS in general) loosing sometimes, but in the show it's plain silly. They always loose, they always flee, they're always incompetent. With the way Grievous is portrayed, it doesn't even make sense why Dooku would make him the supreme leader of the CIS armies. Formerly, the fight Grievous had against Durge and Ventress that I mentioned was meant to be a test by Dooku to see who should lead.
@America Chavez Grievous fights Mace to a stalemate in the Labyrinth of Evil novel. ;)
About TCW, you seem to interpret these events in ways they're not really depicted in the show itself. All the Jedi characters, and even a Padawan like Ahsoka, throw jokes at Grievous and don't really seem to be afraid of him at all, or even take him seriously. Yeah, Ahsoka runs from him, but not after holding her own against him, and then even physically overpowering his grasp, cutting his hand off - this is 14 year old season one Ahsoka, mind you. The few victories he gets are by "cheating", he defeats Eeth Koth only with his Magna Guards, Ventress almost defeats him on Dathomir before he lets his droids shoot. He kills minor nobody Jedi Knight Nadhar Vebb, to then get his ass handed to him by Kit Fisto. Someone with the speed and reflexes to fight on par with Jedi Masters wouldn't even let himself get hit by the Gungan EMPs, let alone be humiliated to badly. No, sorry, it's just vastly different, you can't deny that. They even talk about that in the commentaries of both shows. As I've said, I don't need him to be OP or always winning, but to be honest, I found little to be exciting in the TCW show when the villains are usually incompetent and always fall for the Jedi's tricks, and the Republic ends up winning in 95% of the stories anyways.
3:46 I love how Grievous just looks so pissed with his march like he’s annoyed with the nightsisters
4:47 indeed.
He makes the same pose old cartoon characters make when they want to beat someone up
This episode was nightmare fuel. From Mother Talzin literally appearing out of Dooku to the Night Sister zombies, very well done.
I think the only episode I saw when I was really young was the clone mind control with the Geo worms
Now that was nightmare fuel
Agreed. Mother Talzin scared me more as a kid than any other character in star wars. The power she has is frightening, even more so than Palpatine's
Yeah I watched it at like 9. The mind worms one. Don't remind me
Zombies and magic are not match from the unstoppable power of fire and iron of the separatists 🔥🔥🔥
Glad Grievous killed her in the comics. If only Season 7 was released earlier, we would've saw that.
4:19 When you finally finds the Camper that was killing you.
Lol it's so satisfying
cod in a nutshell
@@Spillow-C nah man Battlefront 2 both versions
@@nickirmen6671 or in brawl stars and in Mlbb
“cAmPiNg Is A lEgItImAtE sTrAtEgY”
Dooku: "Grievous, hurry up and kill that witch!"
Grievous: "Sure sure, but let me just take a little stroll and enjoy the scenery of this planet just a little longer."
"At least, before it burns into the dust below my feet."
Dooku: what are you doing?!, hurry up before she's kills me!
Count Dooku: “Hurry it up Grievous before that witch -
Grievous: …
Count Dooku: “WHY DOES IT LOOK LIKE YOU ARE TAKING A LIESURELY STROLL. Do you not see that the witch is killing me?!”
Grievous: “you killed Gorr.”
Dooku: …
Grievous: *laugh cough cough laugh*
It's the best response the general could have made against Dooku directly.😏😏😏
Jaja, Grievous like to play Battlefront c:
After all the injustices Grievous went through in the whole show (even in this very episode with Ventress) I’m glad I got to see my favorite character charging into battle leading his troops from the vanguard like the champion he truly is.
I agree... Because ist me
The problem is that he is commiting genocide, which doesnt make it so epic for me since thats a over 9000 dick move.
@@eeurr1306 I don’t think grievous cares about genocide
@@eeurr1306 night sisters aren’t good people anyway
And all with only three hands instead of four
"You dont fight with honor."
"No...they did." *Cough Cough*
GOT!
you know OG clone wars Grevious was actually pretty honorable. he didn't really resort to cheap tactics other than what was built into him, didn't duel any Jedi while his army was attacking them (at least not on screen) and only used all of his arms one time. REAL FREAKING ACCURATE CN!!!
Hahaha, game of thrones reference right there
@@liamdalemon1525 not entirely true. The first time we saw him he used "cheap tactics" by having his army wear the jedi down to the point they were exhausted and afraid of dying. Thats how he was able to fight them so effortlessly. They were already worn out. Thats not "honorable."
@@liamdalemon1525 LOL Piss off with that nonsense. The "og clone wars grevious"" was NOT at all "acTUaLLY prETtY hOnoRaBlE" at all, you're a fool for deluding yourself into saying that because he was restoring to "Cheap tactics" in the "og clone wars" you fool. Stop with your whining as if grievous was EVER honorable.
And this WAS "REAL FREAKING ACCURATE" to how grevious was rewritten to be AFTER lucas changed in Episode 3 and Grevious was NEVER "honorable" as you've deluded yourself into thinking that he was. Stop whining over nothing you fool, you're not making any sense with your bad complaints.
Don't know what this "CN" nonsense you're going on about but if you mean cartoon network than you're out of your mind because this IS "ACCURATE" to new canon material of grievous' character that he made.
I think the 4:14 part is the most horrifying part as it portrays how cruel grievous truly was, as when he stepped into the room,the witch on the ground was trembling as she was begging for mercy but grievous almost looked delighted to see her in such condition, he didn't even stop to gloat about his victory, he just mercilessly stabbed everyone.
Gotta admit grievous commitment.
Bro they are killing his homie and wont not kill him unless they die. they were being a problem that only violence could solve
She just helped Mother Talzin to slowly torture somebody to nearly death.. So she fucking got what she deserved.
Makes sense why he didn’t gloat, he was overconfident with the fight against ventures, which cost him the fight, dooku was dying and grievous needed to hurry up. And he was likely fed up with the whole mess.
Nah that bitch had in coming
Dang even obi wan admits grievous was downright horrifying...
Even though this is Grievous' shining moment in this show, he still loses the fight and only lived because he pulled a cheap trick.
Zono he would have still countered her hit but he would have made that trick even if he was victorious cause that s how grievous is
Zono basically sums up Grievous tho
I personally would have liked it if the duel between Ventress and Grievous was on even footing, but then Grievous receives Dooku’s new orders mid fight. That way, when he uses the droid army, it’s not a bail out due to him losing, but due to him suddenly having a time constraint.
It's a shame Filoni didn't like Grievous
Tbh you can tell how cocky he is through the fight. He isn't using as much might as he should be doing because he underestimated her
My guess on why Grevious lost so easily to Ventress is due to them being on Dathomir, which is a dark side nexus, making Ventress more powerful there. That and Ventress didnt feel any fear, intimidation, or surprise towards grevious, all things Dooku said that Grevious needs in a fight
Grievous didn’t loose to ventress he only cancelled out the duel because dooku was dying
@@pilkers2 She literally disarmed Grevious and was about to kill him, what are you on about?
JoJaDerr • grievous could of easily got up with his 3 OTHER SABERS plus grievous kicked her in the chest earlier and that almost killed her
@@pilkers2 The point is that he didn't, Ventress already pulled her lightsabers back for a swing, and since Grevious isnt a force user, he wouldn't have the agility to grab his lightsabers, ignite them, and block. And if he tried to kick her, Ventress could just cut his foot off with ease.
JoJaDerr • he can move extremely fast and continue duelling
The CIS and Grevious were the perfect counter to the nightsisters. What use is your dark magic and fear againest a cold unfeeling and ruthless machine?
B1 battle-droids can *clearly* express emotions.
@@smc0718 They’ve also shown to be very over confident or straight up naive at times so I guess that balances it out?
@@smc0718eh, for all their goodly little behavior they'll gun down civilians without a second thought if their told too.
In Jedi fallen order the tactical bio guide for the undead nightsister says “few have seen an Undead nightsister and survived” yet grievous casually slices around 20-30 of them in seconds proves how strong he is even in canon
Then again they’re referring to the average person
He's always been pretty powerful he hunted jedi and collected their light sabers for fun
@@thedoge9590 More for revenge than fun.
To be fair, He is a giant cyborg with 4 arms and 4 lightsabers. Of course he’ll wreck them
To be fair, few have seen one as it is.
So glad we have this scene of grievous just slicing his way through everyone. Too bad this is pretty much grievous' only cool scene in the clone wars.
There is a scene where Grievous defeats Kenobi's fleet, marches over some troops and gets the upperhand on Kenobi in a brief exchange forcing Kenobi to give up the ship after taking over Florrum
Was a good scene but yh he only gets one in a blue moon
@@danielwood6833 Also that episode where he kills the Jedi and clone troopers sent after him in his lair
He has a few good scenes I think Grevious was pretty cool in the Clone Wars Too be honest! I love the scene of him in his Lair
KnappAttack even there he had to use a blaster to kill a Padawan
Never forget 1584
Didn’t Nahdar just become a Knight?
Even though he tricked Ventress, you gotta respect Grievous for instantly changing his mission from chasing the injured Ventress to saving Dooku…
Gotta protect the homies
Bro is loyal to the end
Grievous: *literally eliminates a powerful magical clan on Dathomir with barely any problems*
Also Grievous: Anyway, time to save my homie, Dooku
That's pretty much why he eliminated the clan. To save Dooku.
Talk about loyalty
ruclips.net/video/d6-gG2gmo10/видео.html general grievous great quotes
He didn't eliminate the clan. He killed a bunch of their warriors.
@@TheSCPStudio Nope. He the bigger picture, Grevious eliminated the night sister clan as a side effect of his actions not the original intent but Grevious met the sister clan full force to protect Mother Tolzin including raising their dead(sh*t just got real), but he eliminated their clan's identity and safe haven for any survivors, plus Grievous killed the ones who held their secrets so they cannot pass down to any new successors and reduced Mother Tolzin to a vengeful spirit so yeah, he eliminated a major threat to Sidious as a side effect when he rescued Dooku. Read Sons of Dathimer comic with Palpatine comments about Mother Tolzin.
General grievous a Star Wars story
Disney Sign Me Up
Anne Ferguson
Disney would just mess it up.
Me : Shut up and take my money !
I wouldn't trust Disney to do it right, they screwed up the entire sequel trilogy.
@@Pyrodorah No, they only screwed the ninth film, because fans were sooo angry after Episode 8. They nailed TCW season 7, they nailed The Mandalorian, and without them, I don’t think that people would still be talking about Star Wars these days...
Went from legend of his people to general of the droid army
The menacing clang of the marching battle droids at 3:28 is just too good man. Gives me goosebumps every time.
Me too.
Doku: grievous, hurry, im liteally dying right now
Grievous: yeah, about that, remember how you made some jedi get into my house and kill my pet
Doku: are you really bringing this up now?
Grievous: yes
*slows down even more*
Grievous took his sweet time to make Dooku pay for letting the Jedi kill his pet
Lol Doku 😂
Doku: cough fine cough I will buy you a new pet Gork.
Grievous:Mhm that's still not enough.
Doku: Alright cough I will upgrade your ship and give you better battle droids.
Grievous: With the hyperdrive I wanted too?
Doku: YES cough anything just hurry up cough.
Grievous:Laughs excellent hangs up.
Grievous jumps on the hull of the tank and screams:Alright hustle up and shoot faster at anything that is not a droid
@@hunterbg6651 *All droids shoot Grievous himself*
@@dr.boring7022 Grievous: Not me you tin cans Im talking about the witches
Droids:Roger Roger
Grivous:cough no wonder I can bearly win a battle with those
4:34 I love the way commando droids are like “anyway,I started blasting”
Bang Bang
*this is America stance*
One is like, "I fired, and I missed. I fired again, and I missed. I fired twice. I missed both times."
Those fuckers went, "Watch us eliminate you with little interest".
Commandos were like “eyo remember when that one clone said they don’t take prisoners?”
Other clone commandos: “ey fam u right”
Ventress: So I returned to you, seeking vengeance against my master who betrayed me
Talzin: Yes
Ventress: And we made multiple attempts on his life, and it wasn’t until our most dire moment, that you reveal that you could make a voodoo doll that could kill him from billions of miles away?
Talzin:
To be fair Talzin intentionally did that to create Savage Oppress so that he would find Darth Maul.
@@goldenstatewarriors9418
Ventress: Who’s Darth Maul?
Talzin: The former apprentice to Darth Sideous. The one your master replaced.
Ventress: Does he hate my master too?
Talzin: Yes
Ventress: would he be willing to help?
Talzin: No he’s off working with Death Watch
Ventress: Don’t they also hate Dooku? Could they help?
Talzin: Well, no, they’re trying to take over Mandalorian with help from the Hutts
Ventress: Like Jabba? Dooku kidnapped his son. He hates Dooku. Can we ask him for help?
Talzin: I mean, I don’t know him…
Ventress: Can any of these powerful people who hate my former master serve as allies?
Talzin: …Idk, just go be a bounty hunter or something
@@aidankeohane3370 This was 2 episodes before Darth Maul was found alive. This episode was season 4 episode 19. The story where Savage finds him is Season 4 Episode 21 and 22. The Mandalore arc is season 5 episode 14-16. So when the massacre happened, Darth maul was an insane shriveled creature living in the junk fields.
@@aidankeohane3370 LOL You're not making any sense. Mother Talzin doesn't know everything and no duh nobody is gonna help ventress kill dooku because NONE of those guys like each other at all. They're all trying to secure power for themselves. NONE of those guys were going to assist Ventress and all Ventress could have DONE is bounty hunting.
LOL what? That doesn't make any sense. The voodoo doll could NOT have killed him "billions of miles away", The Voodoo could only kill with a set distance and needed required elements from dooku to be sick as Dooku WAS captured, stop making up horrible complaints that aren't vaild at all. You're literally whining and complaining over nothing, you fool! Piss off this complaint you're nonsense because you're not making any sense.
Separatists against the Republic: Dumb as hell and constantly lose
Separatists against literally anyone else: Mega Chads that demolish and desecrate entire armies without breaking a sweat
(edit) can you guys stop arguing over the same argument from like 15 years ago I'm trying to goon over nerfed Grievous.
Blame palpatin
Technically speaking, were only shown the victories
And plot armor. Grievous could have killed Obi-wan many times.
@@rgama1173 yeah I agree plantain dumb as hell
I disagree, the Separatist could have won the war if the Jedi didn't join or Palpatine pulling the strings.
Grievous should’ve kicked Ventress’s ass without the use of a cheap move like that. According to lore, he could learn and pick up almost any light saber form of combat with ease in a matter of minutes of dueling the force wielder. This is what helped him become such an effective Jedi killer.
2 words: Mace Windu
Hunter of The Bigfoot with Internet Access and..? Mace Windu refused to duel against Grievous due to him picking up his lightsaber form so quickly
@@echojaxx8550 what Im saying is Grievous would have won if Windu didn't crush his lungs
Hunter of The Bigfoot with Internet Access ohhhhhhhh, right
Dave Filoni: I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that
Personally, I feel that this episode showed how powerful the droid army was, as well as how powerful Grievous really was. Even though he had to pull a cheap trick, I do believe that he would have won without the trick since he is able to learn someone's fighting style while in combat very quickly
Yea. Also he grabbed that witch and ripped her arm off. Damn
Dude was fighting off Nightsisters with two lightsabers while taking a phone call with his third arm even.
Only injustice here was that he lost to Ventress. He should have won that fight, no questions asked, especially with how Ventress was just recklessly swinging, and Grievous is an offencive juggernaut.
@@jeffumbach Grievous be like: "Yo, sup? Am about to massacre the friends of your old girl and finishing the job, lost an arm and some forces, but it's good, I'm having the fun of my *life!* Need something?“
Ventress was literally about to kill him before the droids started shooting at her.
I like how in the comics Grievous is a absolute nightmare for his opponent but in this show hes almost a push over.
Almost kills ventress twice who at this moment was near dookus level in power and took on like 20+ nightsister zombies
@@pilkers2 Ventress was nowhere near Dooku's level of power here. Like, literally not too long ago she, along with two other nightsisters, attempted to assassinate Dooku, even putting him in a severely impaired state yet they all got thrown out a window in the end. Dooku never let Ventress become powerful enough to rival him on any level.
@@DeathIsLethal she was near dookus power level just not as strong
@@pilkers2 Really? I don't mean to invalidate your view, but I can't really see where it's coming from. Dooku was a former Jedi master, literally the one that trained Qui-gon Jinn, and when Ventress went to assassinate him, she poisoned him to blind his senses. Yet he overpowered and nearly killed her. Lastly, Ventress wasn't trained to be sith, she was trained to be an assassin. Dooku would've never allowed her to grow strong enough to rival him, and she really never did. I'd like to know what you mean by "She was near Dooku's power level just not as strong." What's the difference between power and strength in the context that you phrased it in?
@@DeathIsLethal ventress almost killed dooku in the assassination dooku only survived because of his force lightning and darth sidious himself said ventress was becoming to powerful
literally the only time Grievous was allowed to be a creditable threat
Lucas wouldn't allow for more.
And even then he lost the fight.
@@codafett Yes that’s how it all goes for grevious. He’s done nothing but lose and be a coward due to how Lucas wanted him to be that way.
Nah Grievous was pretty good at fighting Jedi. Though he does tend to retreat whenever fights start looking tough.
@@MCSPARTAN501 But unfortunately we never really get to see that in this show. I wish some inspiration was taken for the 2D clone wars in that regard
I wish grievous was like this the entire show, honestly make him even more competent, he would've been badass
Blame Lucas because Lucas didn't want him to be a badass at all.
@@Gadget-Walkmen Not true
@@codafett Yes true, lol are you for real? Even the staff of the 2003 series said that Lucas didn’t want grevious as competent and cool at all and preferred him as a run away villain, as seen as in Revenge of the Sith. You make absolutely NO sense here at all denying that. Get with the picture and realize that it IS true entirely and completely!
@@Gadget-Walkmen You can't pin it all on Lucas since this trend clearly continued after he stepped away. It's Filoni's fault and always has been.
@@codafett lol that’s not true at all. It’s NOT “fiLoNi’s fAult aNd aLwAYs hAs beEN” lol not even close and that’s a FANTASTIC way to disregard the truth here as not a SINGLE episode of star wars the clone wars has been passed through without Lucas giving the greenlit as he literally watches all the episodes. I CAN pin it all on Lucas as he’s literally the ONLY one on staff that wanted grevious to be that way and as the creator of the franchise, nothing gets passed without him giving the approval. Even the staff calls out how grevious continually keeps losing. Stop acting like no one other than Lucas wanted grevious to be a joke because they didn’t.
Lucas NEVER “stepped away” after Star Wars the clone wars before he sold it to Disney, and when that happened Clone Wars was cancelled and when it came back, grevious wasn’t in season 7 except for a single image of him.
Honestly the horror factor and speed of those zombies would have been super effective against nearly any army. A shame that the one they were up against was made of unthinking, unfeeling droids
Also they were using vehicles like the AAT tanks which is cold asf.
The Nightsisters went up against a platoon of B1’s, several squads of commando droids, B2 super battle droids, and AAT tanks. They had no chance of winning.
I have to wonder how an equivalent Republic force would have stood up against them. Would the living Clone troops have been heavily weakened by the fear factor of how unknown the Nightsisters were and the scariness of the zombies?
i like how he puts loyalty before his unsettled scores, yeah he came to kill a traitor, but when someone tries to kill duku, you better bring more then
voodoo and witchcraft
"Anyone left standing tell your commander the send more men" General Grievous
@@apomtaylor8054 lol? he literally threatens that he may "kill dooku himself one day" and later when dooku manages to open his cell door he insults him, saying " so you were useful FOR ONCE, count"
That's because when he became the cyborg he is now dooku made sure that he was programmed to always follow dookus command, he literally cannot do anything but follow orders
@@marrow1985 i don't believe that, at all....
@@fangspecter2232 sucks for you then
One of the few times I’ve seen Dooku actually scared and lose his composure
He had a severe headache in his head and stomach ache
Just for a brief moment; 3D Clone Wars Grievous was able to relive some of the glory that 2D Clone Wars Grievous experienced.
I miss the old Grievous. The one that could kill an entire room full of jedi, including a master in just a few seconds. _That_ Grievous was a legitimate threat. All this one can do is order the death of some blaster fodder.
i missed the part where that's my problem
You'll get a badass grievous when fix that damn door
Old Grievous to Jedi: I’m gonna put some dirt in your eye.
@@Gabriel-all ...wut.
You people ALWAYS forget that mace windu crushed his lungs so he cant perform extreme parkour movements like he used to
“An armored warrior brandishing this (lightsaber) descended upon us and cut down my people.”
-Nightsister Merrin
Never seen Dooku in such fear and pain. A true Sith Lord
And he still refused to back down .
Sith Pretender.
@@slovak4life1991 He is a true Sith Lord
@@masteryoghurt2110 I’m quoting Maul.
@@slovak4life1991 Maul was wrong not the first time
The one dislike comes from Merrin.
That's because she's the only left to dislike.
This is getting outta hand, now there are 6 of them
@@cancelanime1507 From your point of view the Jedi are evil.
and the dead sisters
@@Beerbottles123 Not really. A few survived, she only thinks she is the sole survivor.
I like to think that Grievous purposely made himself lose to lure Ventress right into the middle of his droids, to separate her from her clan and eliminate her early in the battle. Once that was done, they proceeded to sweep the nightsisters.
4:23-4:44 me too.
Honestly, you might be right. That laugh was a bit too confident to be from the table turning. That felt planned.
Great headcanon
Very interesting deduction. I was low key hoping he would wipe the floor with ventress but I like your idea
Me too
There's a reason why he's called *General* Grievous.
2:42 Sounds like he said fuckin Ventress instead of forget ventress.
Lol
Lol it does sound like it. I can't unheard it now. 😂
Can't unhear it now lol
@@alexperson4503me neither
Grevious and the Droid Army delivering some Confederate Justice to the clan that brainwashed Savage Oppress and made him kill his own brother. I can’t believe I’m rooting for the unsympathetic villain(canon Grevious) over the mildly sympathetic one(Ventress). Eh Nightsisters are an oppressive bunch so it makes sense.
They still committed genocide for the actions of... half a dozen?
The nightsisters are the best and most powerful in star wars
For the Confederacy ✋🇸🇴
@@dvf1736 Many societies treated a gender horribly, does this justify genocide?
@@ltb1345 You are... rationalizing genocide?
Grievous is truly a terrifying character, even with the injustice served to him in this show - This still shows his ability to methodically kill his enemies, and lead troops into combat - he'll always be my favorite 🖤
And he's not even a force user. 💪
Honestly I think Maul was supposed to be the most capable as a hunter, sent to faraway lands to eliminate important targets, dooku was supposed to be the duelist who could outfinesse the jedi and general grievous was neither, he was the one who is the most tactically sound and was a priority target on-field because he could out-strategise wars more than dooku or Maul. They all had their strengths
Dathomir is like a Sith version of Dagobah.
Dabobah is a sith planet or at least dark side
@@Burg3ss yes
Since it was a nexus for the Dark Side of the Force, yeah.
That would be Korriban
Korriban would be the opposite of the center or the force planet where life came from, where Yoda travelled to.
Honestly i felt bad for none of the night sisters.
4:17 was the only one I felt bad for, everyone else can have the lightsaber.
I concur.
@Tangetstone979 I feel bad for her too, but she made it and she’s fine. She’s a fighter.
yes. They treated the nightbros so bad
Wait I forgot
What kind of f’ed up shit did they do?
3:30 This scene is so badass. It looks like the imperial march during the raid of the Jedi Temple, but instead of Skywalker and the Republic, its Grievous with the Separatists.
Also in 4:33 the commando droids in this scene are so damn chilling to see as they side by side hit crouch to shoot one handedly at the remaining night sisters.
In the scene with the commando droids I can almost feel an internal smile from them as it changes from a battle to an execution
My favorite part is how un-halted grevious' march is. Man literally is just laughing and giving orders, ripping their arms off, throwing them down, stomping and walking over them. Man, when grevious is doin something good he is fucking badass. Ending was good too, those chuckles before he just grabbed the helpless fucks and stabbed em was great.
Fr
We need to have a general Grevious movie
O Yes
Cough -A Star Wars Story
Preferably one where he isn’t wheezing his heart out his asshole
@@thermonuclearmememonke9431 dose he even have one of those?
@@bman2cool4u68 Well He *used* to.
grievous any other time: “hurry up! we have to wipe out the republic scum!”
grievous here: “off to save my homie dooku.”
It's been a life long question: Which is better? Magic or Technology? And General Grievous and the CIS proved Technology wins
Technically it depends on the context.
@@ltb1345 True but I like how Darth Vader and General Grievous have draw backs to their cybernetics they are still badasses
Is the force not considered magic?
@@cxaxukluth5407 The Force isn't magic it is a energy that flows around and through every single living thing but the Force could be used to do Magic
Eh magic is pretty good
So was grevious responsible for what we learnt in fallen order?
Yes
Yes
He even killed Mother Talsin in Son of Dathomir. Not sure how is it possible..
@@Сайтамен to be fair she was distracted by dooku and palpatine in their little force battle
@@misterlist3140 Yeah, Dooku and Palpatine were both going full-throttle in their force lightning thing, even Mother Talzin couldn't keep up, so Grievous could just step right in and impale her with the saber.
So, Count Dooku's body at 80-something could endure all of the voodoo torture that Mother Talzin did to him, but Luke Skywalker at 53 couldn't endure projecting himself to another planet for less than 20 minutes without dying?
2:35 imagine being killed with your own arm
You can't block four swords with two.
@@ryanwarner5006 wut?
Looks like Grievous has been playing Gears Of War 3
Grievous: "Heh. Stop hitting yourself."
Count dooku:and make it quickly!
General Grievous: *is going slow and relaxed
Grievous still remembers when the count allowed the jedis and clone troopers to his home, and they even killed his pet Gor.
@@josecuestas7246 payback b####
1:02 "Think you can defeat me? You're nothing!"
Dude. You literally got defeated by a bunch of gungans last season.
Grievous: *pulls out 4 lightsabers*
Asajj ventress : *i’ve made a grave mistake*
And then she fucking obliterates him
@The Ravenshe sure was empowered by Dathomir, doesn't matter tho. Never said she was stronger normally, just that she clapped his cheeks here
And did he really have the upper hand tho? Just because he kicked her once?
This is the Grievous we needed more of in Clone Wars. Commiting genocide and fighting powerful force wielders, but not being too OP like he is the 2003 Clone Wars since his lungs were crushed. They should've brought him back in season 7 along with Anakin and Obi-Wan instead of the Martez sisters or wtv tf their names were.
The Martez sisters were cool imo, but the point of bringing them in was to change the pace up a bit. Having 12 episodes of intense battles and war wouldn't have been the best idea imo.
In 2003 clone wars his lungs were crushed when he kidnapped Palpy, right before ep3, he should be uncrushed throught the entirety of 3d clone wars
Exactly, sadly doesn’t seem like we’ll ever get much of the 2003 show canonized
@@wonderguardstalker yeah grievous was so damn cool in the 2003 show, tho def a bit too op imo. I do feel like the Jedi should've been able to literally just force crush him this whole time lmao like why do they never use the force on him. It's still fun seeing him as the crippled, slimy bastard of a general he is in the 3D CW show tho, he's enjoyable in a different way, but they really nerfed the fuck outta him lmao.
I think we needed More episode , purely and simply . We needed at least a trilogy for son of dathomir ( grievous freaking killed mother talzin in there ), we needed an arc for Anakin wielding guns ...we needed more .
4:10 I love how Talzin is scared.
She's Scared of the arrival of the terrifying general
She wasn’t scared she just knows she’s out of time. She’s as strong as Palpatine.
Same
Man Grievous is so cool. A cybernetically enhanced dude with four lightsabers, no semblance of the force in him.
3:18
Ma'am, you do realize that now Dooku has literally zero incentive to call the droids off?
With more context it makes sense
When you realize that Palpatine's greatest threat during the Clone Wars was actually Mother Talzin. If she had decided to not mess around by torturing Dooku, and simply killed him, Palpatine's entire plan could have been ruined. Grevious wouldn't have known how to find Old Daka, thus the nightsister zombies wouldn't have ever stopped coming, and Grevious would have likely been overrun and killed. And even if he escaped, he doesn't have the connections or charisma to hold together the Separatists which would have inevitably led to infighting and soon enough the destruction of the Separatists from the inside out. Regardless, with Dooku and Grevious out of the picture, the Clone Wars would have pretty much come to a close, and Palpatine would not only lose his place as Chancellor, but he also wouldn't have the right leverage to corrupt Anakin.
I always love seeing stories like these for the "bad guy" pov. Not that the nightsisters where good, but it's always interesting seeing the workings of the normal enemies.
Grievous looking at ventress lightsabers: a fine addition to my collection.
4:43 something about how the droids recoil when they shoot is just so good.
“An armored warrior, brandishing this.”
Now I understand why Merrion hates Jedi. Grievous had killed all of them and she distinguished Grievous as a Jedi because of his lightsabers.
"Grievous in 2008 Clone Wars is so weak and dumb." - Clone Wars Fan
"Pack up the ships, time to go commit genocide." - Grievous
Badass Grevious
Genocidal Grevious,
Badass b1’s
Most certainly!!! 🛡️🗡️🤎🤍 General Grievous is one of my favorites!! A very skilful, resourceful, resilient, and intelligent general!
I love grievous he's allways trash talking like 'enough of this' to show that he was just taking his time and having fun while she was fighting for her life
I like how the droids don't even hesitate to start shooting like they do with the protagonists. The show would've been way more interesting if they did that all the time. I figure this is how most battles for the CIS go.
Was anyone else rooting for grevious?
I liked them equally but slightly prefered Ventress
I just wanted Grevious to get a win
I was.
I kinda was. Something about machines vs magic speaks to me greatly xD
I did but felt bad for the night sisters after the light saber duel
Not only grievous is good at doing his job and he’s a lovable character, he is a *BADASS*
this is his only badass scene in the show. 2003 clone wars on the other hand-
@@manofocean that too
People all saying in the comments how this is one of the only good Grievous scenes. But you know what, I think they’re all good. Canon Grievous is a whole different thing than legends Grievous; he’s a pragmatic killer, because when all your enemies can use basically magic which you don’t have, you SHOULD fight dirty to even the field. And he does, all the time. And it works for him. He’s literally just a dude with a metal body and four arms, and that’s basically all he has over Jedi, witches, Sith, whatever; they can match his enhanced reflexes with the force or witch magic, and can fuck him over with it too in its offensive uses. Honor isn’t something that he cares about, glory isn’t something he cares about, calling him a coward or a pansy for forsaking that in favor of ‘dirty tricks’ is just incorrect. This isn’t an art he practices, it’s his job.
Agree 100 percent my homie is just using his strengths and evening the playing field he’s smart
The problem is he's stupid and loses all the time
He's just taking advantage of the disadvantage others have. In the case of a Force User, an army of thousands of Battle Droids who wipe out everyone standing in his way.
You can have the Force and a Light Sabre but as shown with Ima-Gun-Di, you can't stop a neverending train of clankers.
'Literally just a dude with a metal body and four arms' just goes to show how little of a shit you actually give about the character. He was supposed to be a warrior, someone who was referred to as a demigod by his people. He's not just some guy with a sword, he was supposed to be the perfect killing machine, and the 2003 actually acts like it. Even in the 2008 show's context, it's made pretty damn clear that it's not just his job. He has a very personal vendetta against the entire Jedi order (although the reasons they give are stupid and petty as fuck).
2003 Grievous didn't fight 'fair' either, his torso could rotate and he could one shot people by crushing their fucking skulls with his talons, not to mention all the fear tactics he used to break their focus, which 2008 doesn't do at all. He's treated like a god damn joke most of the time, except for scenes like these and maybe his first battle against Ahsoka. He's just very poorly portrayed in this show, which is a shame because it's fantastic in almost every other way, but like, even Revenge of the Sith portrays him a lot better. He breaks open the space glass or whatever to get away from Anakin and Obi Wan, then runs away on his escape pod, but at the same time, he later engaged Obi-Wan in single combat when he could have just had him shot to death, something a lot more honorable than the kind of shit he does in this show. Like, Nahdar Vebb was just a cocky Jedi Knight, by all means Grievous should have been able to simply overwhelm him, but instead he resorts to pulling out a blaster and shooting him in the gut? Wtf? He didn't have the dignity to at least ignite a lightsaber through him with his 3rd arm? It's just bad. It's almost as if Dave Filoni had some sort of personal vendetta against the character, which is a shame because 2003 Grievous is one of my most favorite characters in anything ever, and IS my favorite character in all of Star Wars. He just wasn't done justice here.
@@carnage0685 man really made a wall of text for having a different opinion of a fictional character 💀
1:30 when so many fangirls see general grevious
Grevious: please ladies one at a time
No dislikes, guess he really did destroy all the Nightsisters
Except merrin and the dead sister
Dooku’s desperation in his voice when he’s giving Grievous the order to kill Mother Talson disturbed me as a kid. You could tell he was genuinely terrified.
Anyone else impressed the Nightsisters almost single-handedly killed a Sith Lord and chopped the head off of one of the two major powers in the Star Wars galaxy?
1:58. I like how he’s taking on like 20 zombies at a time
People also call Him a coward. Yet he’s the only leader I see besides the Jedi. Fighting in front or on the front lines. Rather than in the back or at a command center
"can you come help me? these witches are killing me :c"
"i cant, im too busy adding to my collection"
"they dont have plot armour"
3:39
Even the B1 droids look scary and effective in this scene. Damn
1:38 if that B1 shot Ventress instead she would died. All droids were indeed scary in this episode
cause they weren't being hapless comic relief against plotarmoured Mary Sues, but doing what they were actually built to do
0:56 if this was OG grievous, ventress would have flew and died from that kick
She would have gone flying back, deflected off the ramp and barrelled into the controls of the cockpit like a TABS peasant launched by a ballista bolt.
I always loved the kind of bitter sibling relationship these two had.
Like Grievous is Asajj’s brother with that line “I’ve always been greater than you!”
And Daddy Dooku is like “KIDS STOP FIGHTING I NEED MY MEDICINE!!!!”
Grievous's got a reputation on Dathomir, this is one of he's coolest moments
Though it is nice to see Grievous grab a win, it's still a little disappointing he didn't win his fight against Ventress. It could have made sense, too. Ventress is used to having an edge in lightsaber fights because of her having two blades, so it would have been more disorienting for her to face someone with the same advantage on her she usually has on other people
The biggest issue I have with TCW is how weak Grievous is.
@@madgavin7568 Blame Lucas for that. He didn't like grevious being a badass and he wanted him to be a joke so they can ONLY potray grevious as a weak coward.
@@Gadget-Walkmen One of George Lucas' many questionable decisions.
@@madgavin7568 yeah seriously, the team, if you actually watch the behind the scene, were actually very GLAD that grievous FINALLY got a won to himself here. That’s amazing on how even the producers can’t overrule what Lucas ultimately wants.
The only reason though she manages to block all four of his lightsabers with her two is because he's not using his second pair of arms independently often enough, really he should have been able to block hers and get her with one of his extra arms.
They did Grievous dirty in the clone wars. Went from a truly terrifying, smart and formidable opponent in 2003 to an arrogant buffoon in TCW. A hint of that 2003 energy is seen only here, with him saving his master's life and tearing down a powerful organisation with brute force. I wish he had more scenes like this, as he's one of my favourite Star Wars characters.
even on his best momment of 3D clone wars he is still beaten in 3 moves by ventress and has to cheat with his droids :c
Grievous has never been honorable. Hell I'd do the same in his position especially when fighting space wizards
@@Spartan888able well he fougt alone 5 jedi on his first appearence. And he was a warlord godlike for his people
@@ledanoir1239 yeah we don't know if Disney actually considers that canon. As cool as it was. Besides most of the time 3d grievous usually ends up fighting people who are supposed to survive at least til ep 3. Which i feel like takes away of what could have been with him
@@Spartan888able thats my problem, and why I said "even of his best moment of 3D CW he is still beaten etc etc"
@@ledanoir1239 yeah i also look at it this way. It's a much more realistic Grievous in the sense of taking on space wizards who can wreck you in 3 seconds if you aren't careful, not to mention multiple. Ventress still counts as a space wizard/witch. Usually if you were in his position you'd have to resort to tricks and outside help to beat them. Which is how I imagine mandalorians usually killed them
4:49 Dooku needs to slow down with all that drinking
4:24 is such a great scene. This battle cemented my favor towards Grievous and the Droid Army. Slaughter all of those witches!
So this is basically why in the Jedi Fallen Order video game, Merrin attacked Cal because she blamed Jedi and Sith and anyone holding a lightsaber on Dathomir due to General Grevious's actions of wiping out all the Night Sisters in the Clone Wars. Eventually Cal explained to her that the Jedi were not responsible for this and Merrin aided him against the Imperial Empire at the time of Vader.
This was one of droids army's best and most successful battles against a potentially very tough opponent and they won. Grevious job was not to win duels it was to win battles and he did that here. It also shows the limits of all force welders. No matter how powerful when faced with an army they will lose.
Except palps
@@nimishg.valsangikar4868 If he could win a war without an army, Then he would have. He needed an army, be it storm troopers or robots.
Count dooku: 😡🤢🤮
General grievous: 🕺🕺🕺
But he saved it in the end
Well, perhaps Grievous still resents Dooku for allowed that the Jedi entered to his house, and ended killing his pet.
"An armored warrior, brandishing this" ~Nightsister Merrin, a decade after the attack