Tuchel?? Why? Look at his record, look how he has fallen out with Stuggart, PSG, Dortmund, Bayern, and Chelsea. Why do people believe he won't fall out with the bosses at United.
Say we hire a new manager, what will happen? I can tell you. It will be exciting first, the results and perfomances will drop the next 2-3 years and we are back where we are now. Yet another rebuild before another premature sacking and the cycle continues.
Thomas Frank is a very proactive and dynamic man with a detailed grasp of tactics ,but he woild have to win hearts and minds ,and that's so much the issue with these self entitled players
Your having a laugh Frank isn't man United standard plus it's a big leap from Brentford to United pressure wise he has done to prove he is better than ten hag
I'd love frank .. he plays attacking football 3 goals a week .. hes passionate and would actually stand up to poor decisions..eth sits motionless.. frank ready for next step.
Frank has something about him that suggests you can build for the long term with him and inspire players to attack with purpose and intent. With the right support around, why not?
Frank is the answer, tactical genius and great man manager. We need to act quick and bring him in, if not he will inevitably get his chance at another big club and fill their trophy cabinet
It has to be Thomas Tuchel for me Adam, the case for him is both logical and compelling. He has the gravitas to deliver. I'd go 100% all out for him as he's available too. My gut instinct tells me he'd be brilliant for us, he's got the smarts, charisma, and capabilities.
Adam it was a good point away from home , but against a poor Villa side . If they played at the level they have been this season, it would have been a different story
I’m finally warming to the idea as well. How are these coaches ever going to step up and reach their potential if they’re not given the opportunity to? And my goodness had Thomas Frank earned it. The only thing I’ll say is if it’s between him and Tuchel, then Tuchel wins everyday.
It seems to me that there is great agreement on most forums that a match should not decide whether a manager stays or is fired. (The exception is perhaps a 7-0 loss against the arch-rival). But all the same, we see that far too many accepted and believed that an FA Cup victory was enough for renewed confidence. I was conflicted in decision, but understand the choice they made for several reasons. Erik was surprisingly popular with fans, as well as Dan Ashworth and Omar Berrada were not in place when the decision about Erik ten Hag had to be made. I add the goodwill, but fail to see the point of keeping Erik ten Hag, he is the wrong person in the new regime, and only beats his own miserable records in the EPL. He must go, and a new man in. The first thing I look for in a new manager are qualities such as a good motivator and lots of charisma. A person who can speak for himself in a way that engages players and supporters. That's the first thing I look for. The football professional quality needed is the club's responsibility, and I think they have the right people to make a good choice. So, it doesn't worry me. Since May 2013, we've had five managers, roughly what Chelsea have in a couple of seasons. Real Madrid has had seven managers in the same period. You simply have to get over Sir Alex with his 24 years as manager, that is history, a good one. Ruud as temporary manager, and new for the summer? Same for me, I trust INEOS once again.
@@Caz_Utd I wish. Nah were buried in some writing. I am listening to the stream now and just heard Adam recommend Tuchel. You have to give him a good shake and make him snap out of it. There are not one player in PL that have not noticed what Frank have done with Brentford. At a certain level it´s not the last Pound you can earn that matters but that you can like, trust and respect the man in front of you wanting to do the best for both you and the TEAM you belong to. Did you SEE the last match between Brentford and Wolves? Such a joy to watch how they fight as a team and running the extra mile when a team mate make a mistake, like it happens to all, to try to correct it. Players coming to Brentford go UP in value and must have a wonderful feeling about their collective achievements. What Man U´s players NEED are someone that are likeable, speak clear, have a great eye for tactics related to the opponent at hand and that want the best results for the TEAM and thus also want to use players spear competences while working on improving their deficiencies in a partnership. I perceive Frank as someone that have both a vision and flexibility and ability to change strategies fast when faced with injuries etc. I watched their latest matches and you cannot even spot Ivan Toney have been sold. I think Man U´s players would see Thomas Frank as a chance for them all to positively transition while getting better and better results. May INEOS AND Adam see the light 😀
@@Caz_Utd Seems my answer to you only visible if you go to the "sort by" function of comments above and chose "Newest first" (and scroll down) instead of the default "Top comments" Do you have a limit on comment length?
@@Caz_UtdNo United fan should ever want the international break to come to not see the team play. That's down to the manager but I'm sorry, he has to go
We need someone with xavi status, none of these unproven or unsuccessful managers tuchel is living off what he did years ago he's done nothing since and Frank scares 😅me
Both Managers will start off by making the team more solid and polishing the basics again. They will build on from there. I wouldn't even mind if they start off by playing 3 at the back to get some consistency. Both of flexibility and can change according to situations.
I agree. Can’t believe there’s people still saying stick with ETH and we’re talking about another coach coming in to make the team solid and getting back to doing basics. 3 at the back could be great with the personal we have. I’d love to see Ugarte and Martinez as a double pivot in midfield as well. Probably as a 4-2-3-1 set up
Frank is a good coach. Certain Man Utd channels dont rate him because he plays counter attacking footbal. As if with the Brentford squad he can play possession football every week. The only way in my opinion he works is if you remove players with Big egos. Then he'd have players more likely to buy into him. That's highly unlikely to happen so I don't see that happening
Whether you are eth in or eth out, its extremely important that we think beyond him. However well hes done in previous season, the facts are now that we are 14th in the table. We have a plan that relies on getting top 4 money ASAP. Take aside the individual reasons for it not happening at the moment, as a club i dont feel we can now afford to waste the rest of the season TRYING to hope we get back in touching distance of top 4.
I think Frank would be good for United. Already has rapport with the media and does well there. Has proven to be able to get more out of a team thats not exactly A+. His football works. Whats not to like?
Tuchel has won the league twice, and that was with PSG. One ChL with Chelsea just as DeMatteo did. IMO he is highly overrated. Didn't even manage to make Bayern champions.
I like Frank very personal much better than most managers though l think Alonso would fit better as he's lots of experience in several leagues. I like ETH but he's had his chance and can't get a consistent team together in such a competitive league. Sorry to say it's time up and fresh challenge for Man U and for him.
Respect to Thomas Frank. Does deserve a ‘step up’ in jobs (no disrespect to Brentford) but Tuchel, as arrogant as he is, is more than qualified to take over the Utd job. Whether you like him or not he’s one of the top coaches in Europe.
While I agree it's time to replace Eric, the question comes with who?? Which is the best in class manager available to replace Eric? Is it Tuchle?Thomas Frank, who played Ole,s counter attacking football at United...
Adam u and the team produce the best utd show , people need to remember u are the same as them a utd fan and have a right to Yr opinion the same as everyone else
I’m all for breaking the cycle of going through managers but that doesn’t mean you have to just settle with the manager that’s in, I get it’s difficult to find the right man for this job but this ain’t it! 3 seasons in and going backwards, factually. How far does it have to slip 🤦♂️
What, so you can turn on them too during their tough moments. You fans shouldn't be trusted with another manager the way you've chewed up and spat out the last 5 but yet still a mile from a title!
Adam not Tuchel he is a good manager but he causes aggro everywhere he goes with players and owners. This is the last thing United needs now, we need stability and harmony nor upheaval. Still think Ten Hag needs more time and with what he has had to deal with at United on and off the field you have to be strong to withstand that.
If it came down to these two I'd take frank.tuchel only does 2yr and falls out with people and dosent manage up very well even tho he is an authoritarian which we need how do u not win a trophy at bayern Munich in a season??frank would be a better fit for us he ticks all the boxes
Fergie won 3 league titles 3 league cups 2 Scottish Cup and beat bayern Munich Real Madrid when winning the Cup winners cup then beat the European Cup champions seem like he had a way better cv than Frank's plus football competitiveness was different then so comparing Frank's to fergie is a rubbish 🗑 comparison and a insult to fergie
ETH in all the way, no other managers could cope with the cooking pot called MUFC, always under intense scrutiny like no other clubs. Facts there's not a top manager currently available, end of
Nothing has changed with the Tuchel situation so iv got no idea why hes become fav to take over ten hag all of a sudden
Unless what was said in the summer wasn’t true? Who knows…
Tuchel?? Why? Look at his record, look how he has fallen out with Stuggart, PSG, Dortmund, Bayern, and Chelsea. Why do people believe he won't fall out with the bosses at United.
Say we hire a new manager, what will happen? I can tell you. It will be exciting first, the results and perfomances will drop the next 2-3 years and we are back where we are now. Yet another rebuild before another premature sacking and the cycle continues.
Give me Xavi. His style and formation is clear and obvious regardless of results. The players will have clear instructions
The £17m compensation plus our PSR situation probably part of the problem
Thomas Frank is a very proactive and dynamic man with a detailed grasp of tactics ,but he woild have to win hearts and minds ,and that's so much the issue with these self entitled players
Get rid of those players then.. been saying Frank for a while
Your having a laugh Frank isn't man United standard plus it's a big leap from Brentford to United pressure wise he has done to prove he is better than ten hag
@MrMadfrankie Its cuckoo's in the nest, biggest one is Rashford ,he's on a good thing and knows it
@@stevehall5299 totally agree.
I'd love frank .. he plays attacking football 3 goals a week .. hes passionate and would actually stand up to poor decisions..eth sits motionless.. frank ready for next step.
What is it that the pro ten haggers actually like? Bizarre......
I’m trying to work it out
The idea of it working out through sheer grit and loyalty, the idea of the 2nd coming of Ferguson. Delulu.
Frank has something about him that suggests you can build for the long term with him and inspire players to attack with purpose and intent. With the right support around, why not?
I do think Thomas Frank is great coach. Bit of gamble but all candidates are.
Why not Frank for now to get the players playing with belief and in an actual style, then can upgrade to build onto the next level
Frank is the answer, tactical genius and great man manager. We need to act quick and bring him in, if not he will inevitably get his chance at another big club and fill their trophy cabinet
I want thomas frank
Something wrong with your head
It has to be Thomas Tuchel for me Adam, the case for him is both logical and compelling.
He has the gravitas to deliver. I'd go 100% all out for him as he's available too.
My gut instinct tells me he'd be brilliant for us, he's got the smarts, charisma, and capabilities.
we are only 4 pint off 4th place
Adam it was a good point away from home , but against a poor Villa side . If they played at the level they have been this season, it would have been a different story
I've said it for a couple of weeks now.... I would not mind Thomas Frank at all! He's an actual coach and would welcome his style of management at Utd
I’m finally warming to the idea as well. How are these coaches ever going to step up and reach their potential if they’re not given the opportunity to? And my goodness had Thomas Frank earned it. The only thing I’ll say is if it’s between him and Tuchel, then Tuchel wins everyday.
@teemill5802 Yep,he's passionate and proactive, his training would be challenging and stimulating ,he gets in people's faces and would shake it all up
It seems to me that there is great agreement on most forums that a match should not decide whether a manager stays or is fired. (The exception is perhaps a 7-0 loss against the arch-rival). But all the same, we see that far too many accepted and believed that an FA Cup victory was enough for renewed confidence. I was conflicted in decision, but understand the choice they made for several reasons. Erik was surprisingly popular with fans, as well as Dan Ashworth and Omar Berrada were not in place when the decision about Erik ten Hag had to be made. I add the goodwill, but fail to see the point of keeping Erik ten Hag, he is the wrong person in the new regime, and only beats his own miserable records in the EPL. He must go, and a new man in. The first thing I look for in a new manager are qualities such as a good motivator and lots of charisma. A person who can speak for himself in a way that engages players and supporters. That's the first thing I look for. The football professional quality needed is the club's responsibility, and I think they have the right people to make a good choice. So, it doesn't worry me. Since May 2013, we've had five managers, roughly what Chelsea have in a couple of seasons. Real Madrid has had seven managers in the same period. You simply have to get over Sir Alex with his 24 years as manager, that is history, a good one. Ruud as temporary manager, and new for the summer? Same for me, I trust INEOS once again.
Well put
Could Leicester do what Palace did to us last season? We beat them in the Cup and then they beat us in the league right before the next break? 😮
Am a big believer in Thomas Frank as the precisely right man for Man U! (And missed the live stream....Damn)
Mike you on fergie time? 😂
@@Caz_Utd I wish. Nah were buried in some writing. I am listening to the stream now and just heard Adam recommend Tuchel. You have to give him a good shake and make him snap out of it. There are not one player in PL that have not noticed what Frank have done with Brentford. At a certain level it´s not the last Pound you can earn that matters but that you can like, trust and respect the man in front of you wanting to do the best for both you and the TEAM you belong to. Did you SEE the last match between Brentford and Wolves? Such a joy to watch how they fight as a team and running the extra mile when a team mate make a mistake, like it happens to all, to try to correct it. Players coming to Brentford go UP in value and must have a wonderful feeling about their collective achievements. What Man U´s players NEED are someone that are likeable, speak clear, have a great eye for tactics related to the opponent at hand and that want the best results for the TEAM and thus also want to use players spear competences while working on improving their deficiencies in a partnership. I perceive Frank as someone that have both a vision and flexibility and ability to change strategies fast when faced with injuries etc. I watched their latest matches and you cannot even spot Ivan Toney have been sold. I think Man U´s players would see Thomas Frank as a chance for them all to positively transition while getting better and better results. May INEOS AND Adam see the light 😀
@@Caz_Utd Seems my answer to you only visible if you go to the "sort by" function of comments above and chose "Newest first" (and scroll down) instead of the default "Top comments" Do you have a limit on comment length?
@@Mike-zx1kx nope. I put it down to the weirdness of RUclips 🤣
@@Caz_Utd Maybe YT do not like anyone being shaken, he he.
Give me anyone other than this fraud we currently have.
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I know it's bad, be careful what you wish for though. Might get Southgate 😂
@@Caz_UtdNo United fan should ever want the international break to come to not see the team play. That's down to the manager but I'm sorry, he has to go
@@channinglewis595 he does
@@Caz_Utd not sure who you'd want to replace him?
I am a big fan of Xavi, he has a clear obvious style.
We need someone with xavi status, none of these unproven or unsuccessful managers tuchel is living off what he did years ago he's done nothing since and Frank scares 😅me
Just send him on an English course, simple. He'll bring through the Youth and will get what it means being at a big club
Frank for me. Do we want a quick fix or someone to turn us back into giants. I dont know why but i just feel frank is screaming out to take a big job
😂😂😂😂
Is he screaming in english or danish? Cause ineos wont understand him if its in danish
@@foot5224 🤣🤣
Both Managers will start off by making the team more solid and polishing the basics again. They will build on from there. I wouldn't even mind if they start off by playing 3 at the back to get some consistency. Both of flexibility and can change according to situations.
I agree. Can’t believe there’s people still saying stick with ETH and we’re talking about another coach coming in to make the team solid and getting back to doing basics. 3 at the back could be great with the personal we have. I’d love to see Ugarte and Martinez as a double pivot in midfield as well. Probably as a 4-2-3-1 set up
Frank is a good coach. Certain Man Utd channels dont rate him because he plays counter attacking footbal. As if with the Brentford squad he can play possession football every week. The only way in my opinion he works is if you remove players with Big egos. Then he'd have players more likely to buy into him. That's highly unlikely to happen so I don't see that happening
its only been 7 game adam.
Whether you are eth in or eth out, its extremely important that we think beyond him. However well hes done in previous season, the facts are now that we are 14th in the table. We have a plan that relies on getting top 4 money ASAP. Take aside the individual reasons for it not happening at the moment, as a club i dont feel we can now afford to waste the rest of the season TRYING to hope we get back in touching distance of top 4.
I think Frank would be good for United. Already has rapport with the media and does well there. Has proven to be able to get more out of a team thats not exactly A+. His football works. Whats not to like?
Tuchel has won the league twice, and that was with PSG.
One ChL with Chelsea just as DeMatteo did.
IMO he is highly overrated.
Didn't even manage to make Bayern champions.
Tuchle is a counter attacking manager, he will take us back to ole ball and playing 5 in the back.What style will we play with Tuchle???
I like Frank very personal much better than most managers though l think Alonso would fit better as he's lots of experience in several leagues. I like ETH but he's had his chance and can't get a consistent team together in such a competitive league. Sorry to say it's time up and fresh challenge for Man U and for him.
Its so depressing aint it hearing you discuss the fixtures and saying after each one dont fancy our chances even against Wolves😔
Every game from now will be a worry. Relegation possible, I've seen it happen before.
We have already blown any chance of a top 4 finish
Respect to Thomas Frank. Does deserve a ‘step up’ in jobs (no disrespect to Brentford) but Tuchel, as arrogant as he is, is more than qualified to take over the Utd job. Whether you like him or not he’s one of the top coaches in Europe.
These players seem to prefer coutter attacking football and are best suited to play sthis style.
A permanent coach won't be available until the summer, Tuchel has turned us down he doesn't want to work as a coach I the structure
While I agree it's time to replace Eric, the question comes with who?? Which is the best in class manager available to replace Eric? Is it Tuchle?Thomas Frank, who played Ole,s counter attacking football at United...
if we go back to playing counter attacking fooball, we have a chance of being in top 4 position.
Adam u and the team produce the best utd show , people need to remember u are the same as them a utd fan and have a right to Yr opinion the same as everyone else
I didn’t want tuchel but right now I just want to see united playing good football
we have conceeded the same goals as Man City Adam.
20:56 Ineos don't want to admit they f....d up.
And as for Neville! Constantly changing his opinion. Populist.
I’m all for breaking the cycle of going through managers but that doesn’t mean you have to just settle with the manager that’s in, I get it’s difficult to find the right man for this job but this ain’t it! 3 seasons in and going backwards, factually. How far does it have to slip 🤦♂️
I'm not really fussed about either.
It will cost us a lot more than £15m if we don't dispatch this fraud right now. And i mean right now.
Just get us any of the thomas.....there is no doubting that we would be fine.
Replace Ten Hag with Rudd then take stock in thre summer
why was tuchle not at Bayern if we was a top class manager??? Jose was once a top manager., Do u want jose back at United Adam ???
We should hand Rudd the reign until next season and then look at who’s available, no need to hire someone new right now.
We should get Amorim, tuchel fights with players like ten hag.
The players started it with ten hag. Ronaldo thought he was ten years younger and sancho is a big-headed
Ineos / ratcliffe maybe right about title 2028 unfortunately probably championship still a title 🙄
I want Roberto Di Zerbi but Frank is not that bad
Neither of those is good enough they would fail
Tuchel didn't like Chelsea or bayernMunich because he had no input on signings so that's why he turned us down
I personally would sack Eric, but should we not wait till the summer ?
We have become so bad it’s almost anyone is preferable to Ten Hag
I would prefer tuchel, his passion on tge sideline would give these over paid players a kick up the arse
What, so you can turn on them too during their tough moments. You fans shouldn't be trusted with another manager the way you've chewed up and spat out the last 5 but yet still a mile from a title!
Adam not Tuchel he is a good manager but he causes aggro everywhere he goes with players and owners. This is the last thing United needs now, we need stability and harmony nor upheaval. Still think Ten Hag needs more time and with what he has had to deal with at United on and off the field you have to be strong to withstand that.
If it came down to these two I'd take frank.tuchel only does 2yr and falls out with people and dosent manage up very well even tho he is an authoritarian which we need how do u not win a trophy at bayern Munich in a season??frank would be a better fit for us he ticks all the boxes
Thomas Frank 😂😂😂 no chance job is way to big for him we need experience ten hag and ole have failed miserably due to in experience
Anyone who thinks tuchel or franks is going to work doesn't know what they are talking about
Sounds like you don't have an argument if you can't say why frank couldn't work out ? Fergie came from Aberdeen
Fergie won 3 league titles 3 league cups 2 Scottish Cup and beat bayern Munich Real Madrid when winning the Cup winners cup then beat the European Cup champions seem like he had a way better cv than Frank's plus football competitiveness was different then so comparing Frank's to fergie is a rubbish 🗑 comparison and a insult to fergie
United fans? What’s your sample size?
Start a go fund me to get rid of ETH 🤣
is ineos the problem n not 10hag??????????????
Frank pls
No he must go tomorrow
So, you will spend the whole international break feeding us with Erik ten Hag videos?!! - Sorry, I'm out of here.
This is awful, now in total limbo, Hag is unkillable, will be here forever, we will remain dogshit forever
ETH in all the way, no other managers could cope with the cooking pot called MUFC, always under intense scrutiny like no other clubs. Facts there's not a top manager currently available, end of