What Is BLACK OCEAN And Why Kpop Idols Fear It?
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- Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2020
- What Is BLACK OCEAN And Why Kpop Idols Fear It?
What is "black ocean", the one thing that every Kpop idol fears the most? Today, we're gonna review some of the most haunting black oceans that some unlucky idols went through, also find out the reason for that and how it affects those poor idols.
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absolutely
here in my country not. i didnt see that kind of mistreated in every concert. even the performer are made a mistake.
Yes!
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You see I call that being childish and stupid cause they are working hard so that we can be happy and the fact that someone of them don’t get enough sleep or they skip meals for us to repay them like that, you are making them feel like shit and that all their hard work was for nothing, is that really necessary like grow the fuck up!!!
fandom wars is the stupidest thing ive ever heard.
Yes...
ikr.
YES OMG
Exactly
Exactly. Straight up crab mentality. 🙄
the idea of black ocean is the most stupid thing i've ever seen
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💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Yas
I agree with that
During vlive awards 2019 GOT7 was last to le preform and fans from other groups was leaving the venue before and when they were performing
I remember when twice had black ocean armies lighted up their lightstick
It's because BTS experienced the black ocean first and ARMY doesn't want TWICE to feel the same thing as well 🥺
@@geraldinesoul96 Army can you tell me who made that black ocean for our oppa's
@@kalebijul Correct me if I'm wrong but as what I have read online, it was brought about by the tension between ARMY and EXO-L during that time
that iconic moment will never be forgotten
Exo-L too
they tried giving EXO a black ocean? LMAOO THEY TRIED 😩🤞
Atleast they tried🤣
Omg lmaoo
HAHHAHAHHHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHA THEY TRIEDDDDD 😜😜
Why is this so funny? Hahahaha
Hahaha they tried lol
Imagine spending around 100 dollars just to hate someone 💀
Annoying privileged people
@@kimwonoo1217 uh- damn-
@@kimwonoo1217 why?like why?
@@kimwonoo1217 shut up , do you know how hard they work , there Amazing
@@kimwonoo1217 ur so weird
Y'all, I can't even afford A ticket. If y'all are just gonna participate in the black ocean, then give ur ticket to me who'll appreciate every performance.
FACTS
mhmmm!!!!
Facts that's facts!!
Ikr😭
Exactly
Ngl BigBangs concert looks lit without lights ticks well anyways Imma go listen to there full song lol
Their live perf always lit af! Try to watch em all & you'll understand why they called kings of live perf!
BAHAHHAA SAME
NEVER EVER RUIN SOMEONE'S HARDWORK BY DISRESPECTING THEM. it is like going to someone party to congratulate but them insult them. These idols work way hard just to be judged by people who are not even close to that hardwork in their life.
FACT..they are just being immature , childish and illogical..wasting money just to hate on someone .,spoiled brats 😒
If I go to any kpop concert and there's a black ocean you best know that my lightstick will be on
Same! I don't care who is playing or if I like the group or not, my lightstick will be on. I'm not doing that crap to anybody. That's cruel and malicious and I'm not going to put anyone through that. They all work so hard, the least people can do is show them basic human kindness and respect.
Same, respect is needed at these award shows and I would also have my phone flash on because I don’t care if I don’t stan the group , I would respect the group either way !
Also same! I can scream enough for all of us.
Right! You spend all the money for the stick. At least turn the damn thing on and bring some batteries. It ain't hard. People are extra petty.
Same here idols are people to they work harder than many and its not fair
So, "fake fans" purchase tickets just to be incredibly disrespectful, while simultaneously wasting their own money AND taking tickets away from real fans? What the h*ll is wrong with people?
I think they often do this as big concerts that include many groups like MAMA, they will cheer for other groups and do this to the group they hate
@@trieuminh8976 I still feel like it's a very childish thing to do. The people who turn off their lightsticks aren't thinking about how they're going to make the people on stage feel.
Because of korean fans evn many kpop stars are commiting suicide..facts!
because, people.
"Some people just like to see the world burn"
I’m from the US so I really don’t understand the kind of obsessive & possessive fandom that exists in South Korea. Here you might find individual fans who are equally obsessive & possessive but on mass, I haven’t seen the behavior exist the way it does in SK. What I really don’t understand is why fans in SK think it’s ok to “punish” their idols for things like dating or being featured with other groups of the opposite gender, supporting a brand they don’t like or generally behaving like humans instead of perfect godlike creatures. If the same behavior was exhibited in an individual relationship it would be considered emotional, and psychological abuse and be condemned by the public. So why is it ok to treat idols & entertainers that way? Being a public figure doesn’t mean you’re a possession for the public to own & use and abuse as they see fit, it means that you have a skill, talent or product you want to share with the public, it’s a job and/or a passion, that’s all.
This comment 👆🏻🧠👏🏻
Fish rottens from the head. The whole idea of an “idol” as a person who is perfect created by the industry is wrong from the beginning. I’m not from US or SK and artists in my country are just an artists. Just like Taylor can date anyone and even write songs about them. KPOP heads created the images of the perfect gfs/bfs and there are generations of fans that grew up only knowing that artists are some flawless human beings.
Part of it is the industries fault. They promote this kind of toxic stan behavior. The whole no dating rule comes from a place of wanting their idols to appear more “available” to their fans. Which causes a lot of the toxic fans to begin to view the idols more like property rather than entertainers. Once they have that weird possession mentality if their favorite idol is rumored to have a significant other they almost feel betrayed or cheated on. I very much dislike that these companies push that kind of narrative between artist and fan but they think being single and giving the fans the idea that they fill some type of relationship role in the idols life make the idol more marketable.
👏 too true!
THIS 👏
The black ocean is one of the most malicious things haters could do. It can seriously hurt some groups mentally and emotionally and i have never turned mine off unless it was actually out of battery, but thanks for making the videos so people can know how bad the black ocean is. At this point trying to give EXO a black ocean is just a dream, they have done nothing wrong and there are so many fans who route for them
The idea of black ocean is stupid.
And cruel
And bad
And disrespectful
And awful
I love all of you.
So technically the so called fans wasted their money.
And time, Lol. Although I doubt they have time to waste since I doubt they have lives, Lol.
Yes they just wasted the Money
They could've given that to me instead
@@jinhub2175
O.0
@Leah- Stay is here same
why need to turn the lightsticks when we have sun in the stage 😂😂
its the VIP thing 😆😆
Other fandoms do black ocean to punish their idols
Big bang fans : battery go brrrrrrr
Fandom wars need to stop. They are too childish smh
Ture it's stupid
Yeh, like why go if you already know that their be other groups performing as well.
I agree. If the groups get along extremely well, why can't the fandoms? Like, EXO-L and Army don't really get along, but EXO and BTS do.
Kpopers are childish
Yeah, the fandoms need to be chill
For example, minecraft and Terrarria, Doom and Animal Crossing
I espescially like the Doom and Animal Crossing fandoms :D
I'm too broke to go to a k-pop concert or get a lightstick but if I get to go and it suddenly turned pitch black I would light up my phone's flashlight
i would do the same
Same or use a flashlight
I would bring my biggest torch light just in case this black ocean happen. Cuz im not gonna waste my money and not be recognize by my idol.
SAME!
ME TOO
Say thank you G-DRAGON for the lightstick
Yeahh the man who invented lightstick to identify their fandoms.. He's trendsetter in many ways. 🐉🌼💛
"Star can't shine without darkness "
Look at SNSD now They're bunch of successful woman 💅
Yeah right😉most kpop who experienced black oceans are the iconic and legendary group😍
This totally sucks because the companies still make money while the artists are psychologically tormented.
Exactly
Trutt
Ive never been a fan of k entertainment stuff, this is personally confusing.
@@canofsouls282 please check out what sb19
Yeah.
It hurts how disgusting and disrespectful fandoms to do, because they don't understand the stress idols went through, they worked so hard, to keep their smiles
True
I totally agree
Yang Jeong-in yes 😞
Idols deserve all the respect they can get and if someone has a problem with one idol they need to get the fuck Over it or keep it to themselves no fans should ever think “punishing” their idols is ever okay cause it’s not that’s something that sasaengs do and if your a saesaeng I suggest leaving the fandom before you end up dead or getting your ass kicked this is my message for “fans” who think it’s okay to mess with our fandom and idols and real fans
I agree
I’m so proud as an EXO-l and VIP.. I stand the right fandom 🔥
So true..kings
LOL the fandom that started the black ocean? You should be ashmed of yourself and your fandom. Karma got exo bad in the end..
@@LisX840 what happened? They are in military.
@@LisX840 HAAHHAH...They are in hiatus know..and they have felt the above..All groups have time..The same goes for BTS.EXO now in the hiatus phase.Although on hiatus they can compete with groups that are still active just like at SMA.their time of success is over..So now is the time of bts success..They despite being hit by dating scandals many times but still able to survive..Even if not as big as before..With one member they are married..no wonder they like that..bts there is also a time of success ... this time is like a wheel..there is a time when we sit on it and vice versa
I remember when exols made a huge E-X-O sign (using lightsticks) in the middle of the black ocean in one of the year-end gayo dajeuns.
Which one? Is there a video? I wanna watch. Can you give me the link.
when , can u pls give the link??
Wow , it gave me goosebumps , can you give link of video i want to see
So those k-pop fans are not just horrible to other fandoms, they're horrible to k-pop singers/groups? Like, what kind of bath salts are they on?
The kind to scramble their common sense and empathy 🙃 Jesus take the wheel
They r the salt themselves. i hate them so much. They literally dnt fcking care on someones well being. I can SEE that someday they will start a hunger games sht.
Yeah there are absolutely Fans like that and it's pretty sad to see. We try to do something against "fans" who hate on groups but it's difficult
I would never send hate to a group or singer bc they all work hard. Unless it's some serious crime
@@PrinzessKennY same doe, I'm an army before. I have been following bts in their rookie days and I enjoyed it up to bloodsweattears era. But I quit after that, ofc becoz of the fandom. I was been gone for like 2 years. and now I'm just listening to their songs but not totally getting involve. It sucks doe, that the passion of us following the group has faded away because of the fandom, it is supposed to strengthen it, but, we rlly cnt stop bishes from bitchin out.
@@yuh6840 maybe it's just a phase and will get better eventually (maybe just wishful thinking but I'd like to think that as many fans grow up & mature, it'll settle down). I'm a new army (less than a year) and I can't stand the fandom war shit (from/between any fandoms) so I mostly stay out of them & stan what I stan quietly (with only *one* exception of an exceptional actor i won't bring into this).
I’m still confused. Why is this a thing??? Is it fans doing it to their idols or what? And why do fandoms fight each other?? It’s soooo toxic.
They are not fans :)
Black ocean is showingnoun; large numbers of fans agreeing to simultaneously turn off their lightsticks during a designated group or singer's performance as a way of showing their dissatisfaction with said group/singer for any reason. Lol I copy this from google
@@rere0971 that's really sad :(
Because they are children.
@@sapphirexwind o-o huh? A bit steryorypical-
Other group: 😔😢😓💔
Meanwhile...
Big bang: Not to us just relax bro....
Me:☺️☺️☺️👍👍😅
The big bang concert looks like Hell, because of darkness and fire
Yow what's with this comment?
Hella awesome 🤟
Seventeen got so successful and I’m so glad that they don’t face a black ocean anymore
May I know what was the issue back then? I haven't been a carat (or into kpop) on 2015
woozi space yea what happened
It is said there that maybe since SVT are rookies during that time some fans do not recognize them. Also, Carats do not have lighsticks yet during that time. It is not totally a black ocean since there are people who still have their lightsticks on.
Seventeen deserve all their success... they are so talented and hardworking, they saved their company from bankruptcy... I really think they deserve way more success than this
yes ! Seventeen will gain more success ofc, they deserve the whole world, they’ve gone through so much.
SNSD black ocean the worst but they rose up and became queens of the industry
BTS too. Look at them now.
True well said by the this RUclipsr that with previledge u can't b historic group... SNSD is known for becoming icons without previledge, bigbang without the previledge of seniors, BTS without previledge of big3 all three of them become iconic n will b written in history....& EXo tanked hard to the ground n never will be historic coz they got previledge n never got to experience wat the others three did ... even in the age of kpop ruling the world... non kpop or casual kpop fans only regards those three as legends...if u say modern kpop only three names comes up as legends...snsd bigbang n BTS ...upto now
@@hitzthompson1484 I'm sorry but bringing down someone just to compliment other groups ain't it. Yes exo was from sm ent but they werent even huge when they debuted. so I must say nah they didnt have a privilege growl was literally their ice breaker, that song became Gp's favorite it was so loved that even idols to this day perform that song. If u think exo tanked sorry to break it to you but they didnt😶
@@hitzthompson1484 exo tanked tf ?
why some of you tend to undermine and downgrade some group's achievements to uphold others?
if exo tanked then what about other 100+ groups.
You mean suju, shinee, seventeen , nct , RV, BP, Twice are tanking too and much more groups too ?
-_-
@@hitzthompson1484 When you grow up you’ll see how immature you are right now, hating on amazing groups just because they’re successful. I advise you to start to spread love, and stop spreading hate! :) ✨💕
Big Bang and V.I.P are Savage 🤣🤣
Others:Let's give EXO a black ocean.
EXO-Ls: We won't let that to happened!
The best fandom ever, I'm so proud to be an exols. SARANGHAJA!
Me toooo
I am an army but I am so proud of you guys to protected your idols from heartbreak
Yes😍
Yess
Junmyeon said he missed our silver light😭💗
Imagine wasting money just to hate someone.... Imagine the level their brain has reached ... These people wonder me how can someone be that full of hate
They’re stupid like are you kidding me if u don’t like what ur group did stop stanning
@@bunbohue9235 exactly, I couldn't imagine a person could go that far.. I thought the worst thing that could happen is to get death threats from haters but isn't it the first thing that happens to them, like why would you want to kill a person just because he or she is working for their career of who they want to be🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
Bold of you to even assume they had a brain to begin with :D
No wonder kimchi is sour
"imagine the level their brain has reached" my nerves are laughing 😂
fans : hates them by turning off lightsticks
Also fans: purchase tickets and lightsticks to come see them 🤭
fr like why even try attempting the black ocean if you're just gonna waste money??
@@MustyBoi_0249
I think it depends, some people will do it if that group is on a tour by itself
There were other performers
@@katana8409 It’s not a waste if you use it to support the idols
Yeh they waste money just to make feel sad the idols
running out of batteries in a Bigbang concert would've been hell of a circus! the batteries of old version bangbongs are hard to replace. you literally have to use tweezers for those. so please understand us! 😂🤣
Lmao understandable...Have a nice day 🐯👍
that bigbang one was hilarious lol
My Auntie who lives in Korea tries to collect all light stick of almost every Fandom, just to cheer them up with their lightsticks at award shows.
Gosh she is too wholesome 🥺
She is one of my Idols
@Melanie Granados *Grandma*....
Omg she so sweet.
Omg shes so awesome!
aww, thats so sweet! I wish you both the best! And I hope you guys stay safe 😄
also! I think your aunt dropped this 👑
"punish them with a black ocean" These idols are NOT your puppets. They are living, breathing humans who have the right to do what they want. I honestly find it ridiculously dumb how fans are so quick to attack their idols or other idols if they dont do what they want. Smh
I agree. Didn't realize how toxic fans can be
@@xxo8888 that is gonna be the destruction of kpop I can,t enjoy it anymore due to all the toxicity music should be joyfull and brings us happiness
Yes!
It's a way more tame version of the cancel culture. Members of SNSD back then got involved in a lot of scandals, they made a lot of faux passes, and their fans were so toxic they assaulted other fandoms. This video is putting down what happened so much. The members consistently behaved rudely to their seniors.
...and considering that they’re not like regular musicians; they’re put through a punishing schedule and lifestyle with a very limited lifespan, you’d think that people would be more respectful. The entitlement of these fans is staggering - “You OWE us so we’ll hold the survival of your career over your head!”
You know the only time rock and met bands are boycotted is when it’s people like Dahvie Vanity. We’d never dream of doing something like this to someone who’s turned out on stage to give us a good show. That’s all you can expect for your ticket money.
These fans are crazy. They act like these idols owe them everything.
They will never do that to EXO because they have us EXO-L a hyper fandom in the industry
Korean fans can be so ruthless.. Like if you don't like it.. Just walk away. What's with putting idols down like that.
Im no kpop fan. Im the mom of a kpop fan, hence watching this stuff to understand. I do have something to say: that korean fans aint more rude than any other fans. In my teens I went to plenty of concerts and festivals. If people didnt like a band, they would not aplaud, move or anything. Just stand silently or talking to a neighbor until the band they came to see would preform. And you still see that happening at plenty of festivals. You can hear which band has the most fans in the audience, you can hear which songs are liked more.. no one is standing there to pretend to like something they dont like. If they like it you will see and hear it. So, that is not much different than this ( except for the lightsticks).
@@EternalEris If They're not reacting because of stuff they dont like then that's okay, but deliberately switching off lightsticks as a group to put idols down is nasty. Not reacting and deliberately doing something ( to make other people feel bad) are two different things.
please not all of us are like that. we're put on such a bad impression just because of the minority. we hate it too. we don't claim the people who do it.
@@rejoyce.minnie yes that's truly sad.. While there are so many bad things that some korean fans do, there are certainly some very great things that you people do as fans to keep your idols going.. I appreciate the better part of the society
Exo l did to bts in past ...ruclips.net/video/CACFrgs3OdY/видео.html
That SEVENTEEN mama performance is still one of the most iconic rookie performance ever, doesn't matter if it's a black ocean or not
exactly, it was so good and seventeen still managed to be that talented.
I would never consider it a black ocean. Those boys did great
True af! When I joined the fandom a couple of months ago I kept on re-watching that performance.
Agreed
Im really enjoyed their stage in that time...jamming along
I too went to a snsd concert.. and guys you all know.. when they stepped on the stage all people turned their lightstick off.. But y'all know I kept my lightstick on.. and supported them the whole performance.. I feel soo sad.. how they can call themselves as sone.. IDK ಥ_ಥ
EXO-L know how to spread their light when black coming...they know what they do....
"SNSD received criticism for frequently appearing around male idols"
What's wrong with that?
They are idols not slave of their fans.
I'm so done with immature k-pop fans.
Well atleast 70 % kpop fans are immature or underage
@@shaktisikha1615 That's not an excuse. Being underage doesn't mean that you can be a toxic piece of shit. As a minor, I can confirm.
These toxic fans scare me....like they're artist not your husband. I had a celebrity crush on Jonathan Taylor Thomas and never got jealous of him with other girls. Because he ain't my boyfriend. He doesn't even know me....I think these toxic jealous fans need to see a therapist. I am not joking. Because this is very unhealthy behavior and an unhealthy obsession. They think they own these Kpop idols. It really creeps me out.
@@lindavel43 I agree with you. Kpop idols just shouldnt be treated like toys or objects by these so called 'fans'.
Those Kpop "fans" aren't even deserved to BE called fans. More like sasaengs.
Imagine being so toxic that you buy a ticket just to do that.
But I don’t wanna imagine being sludge!
Damn could never be me 😭✋🏽
They are just wasting there money. I literally can't even afford going to the concert and these people just go there to treat idols bad.
Other kpop sad because of black ocean and there's bigbang bang! bang! bang!
Bigbang and vips being different again 😂
HONESTLY, THOSE PEOPLE IN SNSD ERA ARE THE RUDEST AND DISRESPECTFUL FANS EVER!
Kind of
I agree! They were straight rude to even their own idols
nah i feel that the current ones r worse but..... itz jus my opinion
@@trevor.k9430 the current one is pretty Serious problem because fans nowadays is just a bunch of kids, but the 2nd and 3rd generation fans like elf, exo-l, SNSD... Some of them are rude fans but it's not the internasional fans...
@@axkanaufal6952 yes.... International fans are very supportive of their idols.
Seventeen: Had a black ocean back then because they had no lightstick
Also Seventeen: Have one of the most beautiful lightsticks rn
most beautiful lightstick
seungcheol made Shure that their lightstick is bright and now we have our carats bong famously known as "Queen Of Aesthetic" 💎💖
Agree to you all. Seventeen got one of the most beautiful🤧
i agree
Why am I living under the rock??
I never knew about this. I'm literally in tears🤧🤧🤧
Bitch!!!Now I'm mad🤯🤬
Idk what’s scarier, the black ocean or thousands pf people in the dark, standing completely still and watching you
Imagine stealing the ticket from fans who actually wanted to be supportive to their idols just to go there to be silent and make them feel bad.
"music is not a competition, everyone" -Chen 2017
Unfortunately, the music industry is a business. And In businesses, for one to be successful and to survive, you have to really fight for the top places. Music of course is an art which must be celebrated, but Kpop is a manufactured industry which uses music to ultimately make profit.
No matter how many times we tell this, people will still fight for awards!
@@someoneontheinternet6363 every single industry is manufactured including kpop and the western music industry. However for a group as successful as EXO at that point awards definitely don't matter much to them. They're multi millionaires ffs
he's not naive for stating a fact. the problem here is not the music, but the industry itself.
@@shalmali5843 what do you mean naive. that's disrespectful.
they gave seventeen a black ocean in 2015, now seventeen has millions of fans.
Yea
Seventeen be like we scored a HOME RUN.
FOR ME I DON'T CONSIDER IT BLACK OCEAN THO, SINCE CARATS DON'T HAVE LIGHTSTICK THAT TIME. AND IT'S ALSO UNLIKELY TO USE ANOTHER FANDOM'S LIGHTSTICK WHILE CHEERING OTHER GROUP. 🤔
@@mlkcat defiently ! since in 2015 it was maybe quiet weird to do that
Yess
Others seeing black ocean: 😢
Bigbang seeing black ocean: 😂
YG SELECT: we are now selling lightstick powerbank
VIPs: coachella, u ready?
Still waiting for these kings hahahah #Bigbang #VIP
Bangbang was looking soo cool without even lightstick
I’m not a kpop fan but knowing how long it takes to just learn a one minute choreograph, I’d bring the brightest flashlight I have.
Same
I'll go steal a light house's flashlight and shine it through the whole concert for them
id bring 10feet tall lightsaber and swing it 😂
Same, I don't really know anything about kpop and this whole phenomenon seems petty and childish
@@MonsieurEldritch oh I meant the audience is petty and childish for doing this
There is no competition in music...the fans must know that
We must enjoy not compete it
If music industry wasn't a competition, then there wouldn't be award shows. But people need to realise that idols are humans too.
You obviously don't understand the kpop industry...
Yeah from someone who's spent the last 10 years in the entertainment / performing industry every thing is a competition even trying to stay afloat in the industry is competitions its hard work, people working against each other too have the best music the best acting and dancing skills it's all a big competition, and the amount of toxic factors in this industry dosnt help but thats the way it is.
@God's Menu TV you're right, its not artist against artist, artist against mistreating companies
Other Idols scared of black oceans :
Big Bang : we are bigger than black ocean 7:21
Vips is black and yellow.
And if vips turned off the lightsticks,, it means that something big is comming. And bigbang usually have 3 hrs more. So its understandable
If I'm not mistaken, that BIGBANG vid is from their Osaka Dome Tour and that performance is already an encore, pretty explains the black ocean 😂. JVIPS' lightsticks might have went out, but their wild reactions were crazy all throught! ❤❤ no lighstick, no prob😂
Encores are like party mode to bigbang. So that explains the turning off of the lightsticks hahaha
And it's Japan. I'm sure they don't have that idea of giving a black ocean to "punish" an artist.
no offence to everyone else, but snsd had it THE WORST if we’re talking about black oceans.
TRUE
well yeah since they had an actual full on black ocean (also Big Bang if you want to count it lmfaoo)
Correct cause it started in SNSD rookie debut 1st dream concert and that's real BLACK OCEAN.
agree
TRUEE 😬
I remember when even ARMYS turned their lightstick to green when Billie performed even though some of their fans were booing when BTS performed.
Its a new stretch. I thought theyd turn it off fora sec😧
I think I remember them turning it off for Katy Perry
@@nemo_4981 since when tf do western artists care about light sticks and oceans
@@nemo_4981 yea, she disrespected bts and their fans so they gave her the black ocean.
@@nemo_4981 yeah some even left because some ARMYS felt offended of what she said
BRUHHH when I heard exo’s name I chocked real hard and my heart started beating quick- HOW DARE THEY HURT MY BOYS HEARTS LIKE THAT I’M SO SAD NOOOOW :’(((
But exo-ls who were there was like : WE GOT YOU OUR KINGS
If Im at a kpop concert,no matter which group, I would still turn my lightstick on to support them as all of them worked very hard to be who they are today.
Its so disrespectful. Even tho I don’t like some group’s music I still cheer for them because everyone is working so hard
Same I even Subscribe to them just so they can stay around !
same here, fans who do this are so childish
same! They all work so hard, they don't deserve black oceans. I'd cheer for everyone even if I wouldn't like the music and if my lightstick (I don't have one😭) would run out of batteries I'd still do something to cheer for them...
Same like seeing that would break my heart completely
True well said by the this RUclipsr that with previledge u can't b historic group... SNSD is known for becoming icons without previledge, bigbang without the previledge of seniors, BTS without previledge of big3 all three of them become iconic n will b written in history....& EXo tanked hard to the ground n never will be historic coz they got previledge n never got to experience wat the others three did ... even in the age of kpop ruling the world... non kpop or casual kpop fans only regards those three as legends...if u say modern kpop only three names comes up as legends...snsd bigbang n BTS ...upto now
During Seventeen’s performance the only light sticks that I see were on were VIPs and Armys.
3:26 i spot aghasee too hahaha
I'm thankful that not all non-fans are immature
🥺🥺🥺🥺
Proud to be a Carat- Army:’((
Im a carat and a army-
@@mixx-n-match yeah Ahgases always cheer up everybody...Always.Its music and we are here to enjoy each performances we can.
You can never give EXO black ocean because EXOLs will protect our Kings
ofc vips are savage 😂
There should be a term called “Star Ocean” when there’s a Black Ocean but there’s still lightsticks on, looking like a night with stars.
Feel free to share opinions and to disagree.
Thought you got your head chopped off babes x
That’s a glorified way to look at it and in my opinion unnecessary but i think it can be used as a positive term for something a little different. I wouldn’t really know though I don’t listen to k-pop or know what the experience is like haha.
Maybe it can be used as a term to identify the breaking of a toxic practice in k-pop fan culture (black ocean)
It's beautiful . Love it💜💜
Katherine Howard, right as always
@@dippydaniel7716 just describing what heaven is
“There’s no competition, it’s all love and support in KPOP” - GOT7 Jackson Wang 💚
Proud ahgasae here 💚
Another proud Ahgase here.
Another one here
another one here.
Unfortunately another one here!!
Let this go up. Let others know our boys a.k.a. KINGS speak really wise words and this is just a part of it. They are wonderful, amazing and obviously our LAST PIECE and reason to BREATH💚😂
Bigbang just having the time of their life is just sending me😂 they're legends what can I say
Other fandoms and idols is afraid of black ocean, then there is Vip and bigbang with a theme of "BLACK and YELLOW". During a concert there will be a time where seungri ask vip's to turn off the lightsticks coz its "DJ SEUNGRI" time.
VIP's have 2 lightsticks with light rings and bracelets.
BANGBONG is the unofficial lightstick of 2ne1.
Bigbang understand and trust vip's that even if vip's will turn off the lightsticks its ok 😂 specialy during the fan meets, we usually carries beers and some drinks.
If vip's turn off the lightsticks, we have TOP being the lightstick 😂😂
Vip's is savage, bigbang knows that. Black ocean? Nahh, we are "BLACK and YELLOW"
lets give a moment of silence for people who tried to black ocean EXO 💀
They don’t even deserve the respect of a moment of silence 😫
I wish
it's so funny that they tried so hard to humiliate exo but failed lmaooo
I would have black-oceaned them. Their constant, intentional racism towards Kai and their Black fans from around the world makes my blood boil. Girl Groups get black-oceaned for no reason when terrible groups like SuJu and Exo exist (even though I would gladly Black Ocean Mamamoo, Oh My Girl, GFriend, and G-Idle).
Why you said like that??!!!!!
i was surpised they did that to seventeen, who wouldn't like them?
"who wouldn't like them?"
that's my question in all the video lol
people say that its kind of situational that they were only rookies so people were still new to them and carats didnt have a light stick yet but i do agree! them having an exceptional performance as rookies did not deserve that disrespect.
ifkr! Seventeen has the best comebacks and showcases! this scenario should've never happened to them.
Same
Same
The Kings are the sun in the stage ♥ They don´t need lightsticks.
a black ocean happens
other kpop groups: oh no
BigBang TOP : HEHEHEHE IIIIIHAAAA
And TOP be like : AHA AHA AHA 🤠
Immaturity flows on those fans who likes to give a black ocean to their idols
Edit:Thank you for the likes omo
To whom may not know yet, This video mostly contains false information regarding Lovelyz and their fandom. As a resident fan of korea and active at that period, it's certain the fandom never punished nor boycotted any of the member in the group because the fandom at that time was quite in contrary, actively confronting antis that were spreading rumors and attacking the falsely accused member.
The fandom didn't even physically have any lightsticks that would cause a black ocean at the Pepsi concert (Dec 6th 2015) because the light sticks were first released in January 2017. And the Pepsi concert was a prize to win which was purely luck driven. Not many lovelyz fans even won tickets. I remember because i was actively buying scratch card coupons to win tickets at that time but won none.
How would a fandom conduct a black ocean when there are zero light sticks to begin with and not many people even got in the venue..?
What actually happened was that anti and trolls over at Twitter that tried to make a controversy out of thin air. they made hash tags such as # ㄼㄹㅈ_텐미닛_소취(which means 'make Lvlz BO happen'. The purpose was assumed to drive a wedge between lovelyz fans and other fandoms because that would sabotage the upcoming comeback and album release on the very next day of Pepsi concert which is December 7th 2015.
(Lovelyz - for you released on Dec 7th 2015)
In fact, from the general audience that actually attended the concert made testimonies that the on-site crowd was fine and lovelyz fans were busy shouting fanchants.
This video not only imputes what the ANTIs have done to Lovelyz, but also unfairly blames it on the actual fandom that continuously protected the falsely accused member.. Sadly as a result, the video unintentionally spreads new rumors that the fandom was disintent with the falsely accused member.
This is quite a mistake as for almost 2M people that watched this video is misinformed and formed a fabricated view towards the group and its fandom. This channel really should fix the misinformation put out.
@@jwn955 i didn't mean about that show/event but i do mean about the immaturities of those fans who have the intention to give a black ocean to their idols
oh hey teume 🥺
I don't even have money to go to my fav's concert
and they waste money like that
@@mashikyukyu8519 hello😁😳
I'm a senior kpop fan and back to when BTS was still not that popular, they experienced a black ocean too.
Experiencing a black ocean does not mean your idols sucks.
seriously, the oceans on this list is just because there is no light stick but they could have use their phone's flashlight too, not that there is really no light at all. only the SNSD REAL black ocean is terrifying and would be a constant nightmare to the girls.
If I'm not wrong it was when they got their first artist of the year maybe.
@@ElsaKyle so true
The thing is all idol already got the black ocean
Mostly shows korean fans are butthurt people
I will never turn off my light stick when an idol was performing..
Proud ARMY here💜
Hillarious savage VIP✌🏻🏆#proud VIP
As a musician, i can't even imagine how they must have felt. All that excercise and practice, and when you finally go on stage, you get this kind of feedback. I'd be distraught.... So much disrespect. If you don't like them it's a thing, but this way you're disrespecting all the commitment they put into their work.
your pfp is a black ocean lol
this is obviously sarcastic and just a joke
@@someboreddudeintheinternet4693 LMAO NOOOOOO
Aww yeah, man that's gotta suck
It just reflect badly on those people. They are low down nasty toxic people. The artist still get paid though and those people paid them so the jokes really on them though
@@beany1944 i know, but i can't help but think how it would have felt if i was in their place. Yes, money are a good reward, but in my opinion nothing is more worth than being truly appreciated for your hard work.
These "fans" are so petty. It's more than annoying
Woa 2 months ago and 809 like yet no replys ill be first!
Woa 2 months ago and 858 likes yet 1 reply i’ll be second!
I don't think so we can call them fans. 🤢🤢
Imagine when they are supposed to be comforted by their fans but end up receiving such a cruel and heartbreaking thing
:,( the way that these don’t happen anymore makes me happy no group deserves this,, me as a old fan knowing that old fans did this hurts,, just because there’s ONE member that ruins their chance at fame with their wrong doing,, like it’s not fair for the other members
SNSD and TWICE black ocean were the most terrifying as they both were rookies that time
Feeling very sad after seeing World War 3 under my comment. Seriously people are losing morality over kpop.
when did the TWICE black ocean happened ? (ye sorry im not a once)
@@sexsanlol In mama 2016 when they won soty.(It's okay:)
Yea and i remember armys are the only one who remained their lightsticks on now twice is best gg and bts best boy group
@@kenchi4789 yeah and we are always greatful to Army.Yeah now both are the king and queen of kpop.
@@kenchi4789 aahh agree on the part where army is the major fandom that still have their ls on. But I do remember watching a fancam where other fandoms wave their ls during twice performance and daesang were announced. It's kinda misinformed but okay
LOL jokes on the people/fans trying to do things like "black ocean". They all paid for the tickets....
True. Haters try to black ocean people but paid for tickets. People, who ever is performing or what ever group, get your lightstick on!
Yeah and they call themselves "fan" . Childish fans are the worst.
Lol
imma try to look on the artists perspective.
yes, artists still got the money from the tickets revenues, but haters mission is actually attacking their mental health and i can see its works (i know there's idols who is though cookie) but lotsa idol not prepared to be attacked that much mentally, to be hated that much in the face, the humiliation.
so i were the artist even if i got the money i still feel attacked mentally and definitely need a break in my career to cure myself.
thats why there's some idols confessing that they afraid of camera.
But it's not always about the money
What's the Point of having money if You think everyone Doesn't like you
Even tho I only stan certain Kpop Groups, if people give different Fandoms “black ocean” I be swingin’ my Lightstick just to show my respect to those groups since they always have a hard time, and they’re trying their best!!
Bigbang VIPs' are savage!!Lit!!
Honestly, this is sad. In America, we don’t have light sticks for bands or artists. So the majority of the time the crowd is dark. Sometimes we use lighters during a song but that’s about it. It’s a shame to think that people would purposely turn down lights to a performing group. Any concert I’ve been to, I’ve always been respectful of other artists, even if I wasn’t into their music. You wanna be disrespectful, that’s cool, I’ll scream to the music and start moshing ;)
I usually use my phones flash! Why even go to a concert if you’re going to do something childish like this ?
Exactly!
There are artists who use light sticks/something lit. I was on the 1989 tour by Taylor Swift and we all had one under our seats but the difference was we couldn’t turn them off on specific songs so yeah
Some people threw bottles to artists performing that they didn't like.
Well, there's phone flash tho
Y'know, I find it really upsetting that some of us can't even afford tickets but here are some people who buy tickets and then just hate on them
Yeah atleast i get to see them in person even though im a mile away
💯
Truee
Haters spend their money and time on groups they hate
For me it's funny
That stupid right. Some fans have more dollars then cents (sense)
#Spent_money_on_tickets
#No_money_for_batteries haha😆😂
I would never… If i see a black ocean starting, I would immediately turn on every light I have and start screaming the members name just so they can see they still have support.
Black ocean is horrible and I don’t like it at all.
VIP'S so savage
"no need for a lightstick when there's a sun on stage" 😭😭😭😭 i love you vip
😭thats touching
Welllll.... They did have Sol/Solar on the stage already 😂
Of course ☀️Taeyang !
taeyang 😭😭😭😂
Vip's are the iconic fandoms to grace this earth🖤😂😭😭😭
Chen in EXO's last MAMA winning speech: "There's no competition in Music"
Right,,,
Why does everyone always compare idols to one another, between seniors and juniors, between the first generation or so on, between this agency and that, between one fandom and another, why can't it be peaceful ... if you don't like it, it's pretty quiet but Just pay attention to them, respect them as if we want to be respected by others ... winning or not is just a small gift for them as their hard work so far ... they just want to be respected and appreciated ...please don't war" again okay,,,
What a joke when trainees compete just to debut and if the group’s music dont do well, the group is given less projects and disbands.
@@largibolala2691 music is an art of expression so there is no competition it’s the industry that makes the competition though
December 2018, (bts) anti gave Dunken Tiger black ocean because he collaborated with RM.
not to mention it was mainly your fandom 🥴
He was starting facts. Yes there's no competition in music but sometimes the industry and the surrounding change it into a competition. Music is something to be enjoyed and not to be compared. Each artist puts a lot of effort in making music, all they want is to express their talent and to satisfy their audience. If people don't like certain songs then just stop listening to it, why bother to spread hate? It's allowed to give critisism but not hatred. Respect the hardwork!
Seventeen are lowkey supertar. With million sellers, many awards. And work hard to achieve theirs dreams with the help of carats.
This aged so well :')
Audio to Exo:Who wouldn't be proud of having such amazing people by their side.
Me as exo-l :cheering here ,yes I am the one
WHO THE F GAVE MY BOYS SEVENTEEN THIS GODDAMN BLACK OCEAN??? I’M-
IM RAGGINGGGG>:(((
probably the fandom who was popular at that time in the kpop community, not naming their fandom tho, but the hint is "year 2015" :)
@@sebonteesen4064 i don't get it 😩
@@sebonteesen4064 I don't get it either
@@sebonteesen4064 I don’t think it was bts fans
Exo antis: give them black ocean
Exols: this is our stadium
Right
Yeah right
Yesss.!
Yup! I love my fellow EXO-Ls
Yas! Yas! Yasss!!!
So proud to be a part of this amazing fandom. Exo-Ls are really the best
Literally!!! Exo saranghaja❤✨✨
LOL exolols? The toxic fandom that started black ocean? You should be ashmed of yourselves. if anything...exo is a black ocean now lol
@@LisX840 huh????
@@LisX840 stay mad exo and exo-l are better than you and your favs will ever be exo are your idols idol and the kings of kpop :)
Huh??? The ones who got so threatened by 2 yr old grp of small company that they sent petitions to fcking blue house?? Who showed middle fingers at an award show cz tht same nugu 2 yr old surpassed those egotist grp? Who trended fake infos amd made hate trains against tht small grp cz they were so insecure tht they can surpass them?? Made the lives of the fans of the grp live in fear? Sent death threats for literally fcking mentioning them? Ridiculed that small grp for even fcking DREAMING of a daesang when they had PROPER FACTS AND ACHIEVEMENTS to back up? Called up a whole ass award show call centre to complain abt their loss and blaming the award show for the loss bcz they couldn't digest a grp frm small company surpassing their spoon fed faves without any media tricks and power control? Supported the fcking neo nazis bcz the HATE theyhv for tht grp is way too fcking big than humanity. And when that grp got bigger fandom way bigger than those spoon fed fads these same ppl call themselves "THE BEST" and portray themselves as fcking VICTIMS???!!!!
BITCH what a hypocrites u fkass fungus fads are. Goddamn playing victim card wayy too loud for a grp of such low lifes. Shame on u btches and u should burn in hell.
And let me tell you i m enjoying eggso's downfall sooo bad. Karma gets back. Its so satisfying to see btvhes like them and you fall down frm ur high horse.
"There's a saying in china..." Fcking asshole