Treblinka photographs
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
- The Treblinka photographs were taken by deputy commandant Kurt Franz and discovered in his home and the time of his arrest in 1959 in West Germany. In this video I also show you around the site of the former death camp, filmed in February 2009.
Kurt Franz was born in 1914 in Düsseldorf. His father was a merchant and he also had a sister. After attending the elementary school in Düsseldorf for 12 years, he worked as a cook for the restaurant "Hirschquelle" before he gave his final exam.
He enlisted in the German army in 1935 and eventually entered service in the SS. He was sent into the Buchenwald concentration camp before being transferred in 1939 of the Action T4 'euthanasia' project.
In late 1941 or early 1942 he was sent to the Belzec death camp. Later he assumed the post of deputy commandant at the Treblinka camp under Franz Stangl. Stangl later suggested that he was frightened of Franz.
Franz was known for his unusual amount of cruelty and sadism. Franz had a dog Barry which had originally belonged to Stangl. The dog was a Saint Bernard which is usually a very friendly breed. This dog however had a mixture of another breed which may have been the cause for its violence. The dog was trained to bite the genitalia of the prisoners under the command 'Man get that Dog'. However once out of Franz's possession the dog behaved normally and died in 1948 in the care of a doctor in Ostrów Mazowiecki..
During the revolt in Treblinka on 2 August 1943, Franz was visiting a lady friend in Kosów Lacki and was too drunk to do anything about the escape.
He was also drunk when arrested in 1959 when these photographs were found by the police. In 1965 he was sentenced to life. During his imprisonment he complained that he got a life sentence whilst others got off and was very bitter that he had not been released for his wife's funeral in 1992. He was released in 1993 for health reasons. Kurt Franz died in Wuppertal in June 1998.
Franz along with Wagner from Sobibór and their superior Christian Wirth are amongst the most cruel sadists of the war.
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Wonderful work. It is vital to tell this history. It must never be forgotten. My child is a high school student in America. They have a history unit covering WWII, but there is so much more to tell. It is so complex. Younger generations must be taught, and understand. Your efforts are appreciated.
Thank you - I have not published much recently related to the Holocaust. You might wish to see my channel History on RUclips where I may start to publish material again.
than learn them to quistioning history !
You can see bone fragments occasionally on the surface.
My friend said that about Auschwitz.....where many of his ancestors perished, He went there from NZ twice to gain understanding of what happened to his relatives. He said the place was haunted, the saddest place on earth. He was deeply affected by it.
Have any of the mass grebes been dug up? Surely the skeletons would provide further proof against the Holocaust deniers?
Man after my own heart. Didn't realise you'd been doing this for so long !! Amazing channels, thank you for bringing us this 🙏.
Thank you very much - you might want to see my history channel too : ruclips.net/user/alanheath3
It would have been an honor to have been able to personally execute the operating staff at Treblinka
It was a train depot.
Same! ❤
@lynchie3000 There are photographs of the 'zoo' at Treblinka II.
Topsoil does not make holes that big. As for the sand, I refer you to any reference book on the nature of the land in this part of the world.
I have never heard of the book you quote but if that is what is written it is completely incorrect. What source does the book quote? Or did you make it up?
@globe255 I don't get stuff from the web - I go to original sources. In this case they are from Kurt Franz's photo album and are shown at the site of the former camp. I showed all the photos.
Hi Alan I am thinking of buying a book by Samuel Willenberg but i dont know whether to buy Surviving Treblinka or Revolt in Treblinka. Which one would you suggest as most informative in your opinion? Many thanks
@alanheath I am so grateful that you are continuing your films. I would love to see documentation on the ghettos as well as the camps. I mean it would be interesting, just not sure if I could read it being in another language and all.
Congrats on making your local press!! I'd love to see that article. I'm very proud of you!
Great videos. I just found you and I know I will be spending a lot of time on your channel.
Thank you for all your efforts in providing information and education on this subject. I have subscribed to your site. Thank you.
Hi Alan, dreadful and fascinating. I cannot get my head around the train track? were there two? And it was shunted back onto the ramp?. The main railway line was to the east of the camp? It seems the camp was built on the black road? on the way to the quarry and penal camp?
Hi there Alan. Amongst your many fine videos this is one of the very best. Very well done. Cheers!
That is nice to read - thank you very much. The film is almost nine years old!
I wonder what ever happened to Franz's photo album after the trial? Also any info on how he behaved in the courtroom? Great videos alan
The folks who ran this camp got off relatively easy.
It must be interesting alan! Is the other book by willenberg also of value? I may get both they are quite hard to track down in britain.
Also are there any books you suggest on him and his subordinates alan?
Your statement is totally absurd. If it is a construction site what type of construction is it. Furthermore, the author of the photos, the deputy commandant, did not deny what it was when arrested. There were only around 500 inmates and they clearly would not be housed in the graves area. 1,900 deaths a day is not so large given that there were days when 20,000 people were deported there. Those that claim that nothing happened here are those whose ideas are without substance.
@trifelgeputinage Thanks for your comment - at the end of the day there is nothing one can do about the nuts. I still do not know if they believe this denial nonsense or just do it as a wind up.
I enjoy your videos! Keep up the good work.
@AngeliaClaire Remains are clearly visible in the photographs of the time as people will there will also confirm. One can find bits of bone on the site but not to the same degree as at Bełżec before it was covered and at Sobibór and Chełmno nad Nerem.
hi alan, what are your comments re SS Franz Suchomel at Treblinka also Oscar Groening SS at Oswiecim.. Both seem to give pretty accurate accounts of both Death Camps, i just wondered what your opinion was re these two SS stories.. i have been studying this part of history for a long time now & have made several visits to Poland.. many thanks
Thanks Alan, for your important documentation. As an Austrian born in 1969 I feel some form of "collective responsibility" for all these almost unspeakable atrocities committed in the Holocaust. It is so important that we are time and again reminded of what was going on. This is the only way of ensuring as best as we can that this will never ever happen again! Thanks for your contributions to this important exercise in humanity!
If I see it I will of course purchase it alan. I have read that Kurt Franz and Gustav Wagner were very culture before the war and the camps, not sure about Wirth's background though. Which website do you most recommend for info on these men alan? Really enjoyed your vid with Tommi Blatt also.
@TimeAndSpaceWarp Yes there are - as well as a comprehensive report on the area.
Also alan is there a reason why Sereny did not interview other guards who were imprisoned in dusseldorf, e.g, miete, mentz, matthes, franz and the rest? Was Stangl imprisoned seperately, or did she just want to keep it with stangl? I know she interviewed horn and suchomel when they were released, but she could have interviewed the others who got life? Cheers alan!
Hi have read testimony that the potential death count at Treblinka may have been over 3 million, based on observations made by local farmers counting the trainloads of people on the way to the camp, and empty trains returning back along the line. This seems very high, but I feel that the 'official' death toll of around 750,000 may be somewhat conservative.
+Martyn Lee We know how many people were killed in 1942 from the Hoefle telegram. How many were killed in 1943 is unknown. The station master at Trevlinka claims to have made a record via the Polish resistance giving a total of 1.2m based on numbers on the waggons but I doubt this is correct as it would be almost impossible to count all the numbers. They may have counted the wagons going in but the number of victims in each case varied enormously from over 100 to less than 30.
+Alan Heath, yes, that telegram with a number of 435k? That was indeed from end 1942 when the 2nd commander, Stangl was put in charge: that guy made Treblinka into the true horror-machine even the Nazi-SS feared of 'being seen by the world's eye' that '435k' was the figure of the 'smaller'Treblinka II, mostly under the command of Eberl, who made a mess of things regularly: Stangls report on arriving at Treblinka clearly said there were piles of corpses everyhere, some of them hundreds of meters outside the camp, near the tracks. It was under Stangl that the camp expanded, and received even more gaschambers. This was said to give the camp a capacity of 12-15000 a day, atleast, though this number was never met(peak was i think 13.6k on one day. Remains horrific to imagine ofcourse.). Still Treblinka was always working around the clock to process the trainloads. But a rough count here: The SS hated to work on weekends, so that leaves 5 days a week, make that.. ~250 days a year? A train would have 50 to 60 wagons carrying 100+ people each, 2-3, sometimes 4 trains arrived per day? Even if theres 'only' 8000 people 'averagely killed' per workday, thats still an easy 2 million in a year, Treblinka stood for about 1.5 year so that 3Million could easily have been a solid figure. Treblinka had all the capacity for it. I believe the truth on the Holocaust to be quite surpressed. For the best also: if mankind knew the real numbers, the retaliation demanded would be unimaginable. The current numbers leave 'something to guess'. And plenty to remember. I think, the actual truth on the scale of these índustrial sized killing factory's' is far more macabre then even the highest ranking officers in the army's then, dáred to imagine. Auschwitz has records of taking in around 6Million prisoners. and 'only '1.1M of them died there; the other 4.9M all survived? Yes some were taken to other camps? No! Auschwitz was and end-station, just like Treblinka, Chelmno, Sobibor, and Belzec
Hi Green R,
While I prefer to follow Mr Heath's conservative assessment of the available evidence, I subjectively agree with you wholeheartedly. There were countless shtetls that simply disappeared and their SS murderers, as well as, in some cases, the locals, not only wiped out all traces of their existence, but also destroyed the cemeteries and used the gravestones to pave roads for heavy vehicles. When considering some of the newer studies (e.g. that of the unfortunately late and great David Caesrani, Lawrence Rees, Robin O'Conner), as well as the numerous previous Holocaust scholars, the inferred huge numbers of missing peoples, and whole communities must have at least been partly murdered in either the Reinhard camps or Birkenau. I still wonder about those possible additional smaller "facilities" (in the style of post-Operation Reinhard Trieste - where Wirth took his most productive fellow murderers to have a go at the Italian Jews) that have been hypothesized to have briefly existed at other sites along the Bug.
Mr. Heath - (kudos to your careful historically-based documentation) any info about these occasionally mentioned camps? Among other places, the former Treblinka prosecutor, Alfred Spiess, mentioned them in his interview with Claude Lanzman in Shoah.
Martyn Lee More like around 900,000.
@@VanlifewithAlan Herman Hoefle is one of the most evil people in history.
I'v often asked myself, were Germans born evil or became evil.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_H%C3%B6fle
The crawler excavators that dug the mass graves at Treblinka II came from the gravel quarry at Treblinka 1. What I've always wondered about, concerning the digging of these mass graves was how much larger camp II (the extermination part of the camp) was, than what it's size looks like on the maps of the whole camp. To look at maps of the whole camp, it doesn't look like there was enough room to operate such large pieces of equipment. But then in the pictures, we see portions of camp II with some of its buildings in the background, leading me to believe camp II was actually much larger than maps seem to indicate.
It wasn’t very big. Didn’t need to be. Upon visiting Birkenau where the foundations of the extermination sites are still in place it struck me as a small area too… where a million people met their end. However it wasn’t all at once. It was 1000-3000 at a time over the course of YEARS. Thats why it was possible. Still.. the existing machinery was often overwhelmed at the sheer volume of human “cargo” they were processing. For the perpetrators that became their #1 priority and felt it distinguished them from others. Their ability to mechanically handle the logistics of genocide
Try Mark Felton the 1943 uprising video. Pt1 has plans.
@alanheath, thanks for the reply alan, most appreciated.
@lilliteningpea I saw Shoah many years ago - I think I also have it on VHS tape somewhere! I think it was this film which gave me the idea to do what I did on filming things in Poland! I can understand nearly all of the original language (as well as the French)! I have got a lot more from other camps if you are interested!
Should it be possible Alan to show the shoah documentery on your channel with the subtitles I,ve seen a lot of this documentary but no subtitles
The position of the mass graves in Treblinka is known - I describe it even in a film.
@alanheath
Could you point me to some documentation online. Nizkor has sadly very little on Treblinka.
Good man i am interested in the personalities of the staff and would like to read a book based on this subject, franz miete hiertiecher etc, i will try and find that book by samual willenberg any idea who sells it alan??
@Loempieja I have not read that but in my own research I came across correspondence from the German forester at Chelmno complaining about how large tracts of forest were being destroyed. At Sobibór there was a similar story.
@lynchie3000 What is the source?
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Things have been moved around a lot, yes. Nonetheless the main archives are in Berlin and Ludwigsburg with a large depository in Bad Arolsen also.
Cheers alan! I find it very interesting that whilst Franz was like that, boxing with prisoners etc, Stangl i think never even threatened a prisoner verbally. They were both promoted at this time aswel! The contrast is bizarre to me. Is his photo album in a museum somewhere??
Alan, have you seen the doc called Shoah on here. It's good, there are i think 59 parts to it, but very worth the watch. It does have subtitles, the folks are talking in 2 different languages which I am not sure what they are, but I know you speak a few languages so maybe you won't need the subtitles. Thanks for posting this vid, i know it's a few years old, but worth watching.
These photos could be taken anywhere ??
Thank you for your comment!
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@alanheath3 Ok then. Im right now wondering whats wrong about picking from the web?
As for your comment which you deleted - the Berlin Documentation Centre is not a secret record and Yad Vashem has the records from there. I was at Yad Vashem and used some of them there so I have first hand experience.
great vid, thank you 4 the history lesson.nice job
I agree, it is absurd. He probably served even less.
Thanks for letting me know about this. I know this story although I find it a bit far fetched - I have posted an article from the Times on 14 December 2000 on my facebook channel (address above). Apparently a documentary was shown on German television in January 2001.
So that is how you justify your assertion that the victor writes history - even when your victor is clearly on the losing side?
This film is entitled Treblinka photographs. It is not entitled Treblinka killing people on a film or anything like that. You should read the title. If you go to see the new James Bond film and it is about James Bond I scarcely think you have grounds for complaint.
@tromotromo You can try the death camps site, Mazal library and do a general search. I have published a lot of material on you tube too.
You are right. The word 'know' is missing. It is written in the earlier two sentences.
A dark short part in our 1000 years german history.
The interviews of some SS Soldiers in Treblinka like Franz Suchomel are pretty interesting.
A dark short part that will darken the name of Germany for the next 6000 years. Kids born 700 years from now will wonder the kind of barbarism and savagery that your little country produced.
The name GERMAN will forever be synonymous with GENOCIDE.
Pine forest. Pine forests are beautiful. I have watched this video very many times. And it makes me cry...
Me too.I visited Auschwitz and two of the other Eastern Poland camps and each spot had a very oppressively sad vibe...totally understandable but still heavy to take on board.But I did and am sick at how low and evil us human beings can be. Best wishes from Bournemouth UK ♥️☠😉
Cheers alan you wouldnt know the webstie nfor the memoirs would you? I wish that the information by michael tregenza on wirth was avaliable in english!
@lynchie3000 What has that do it with it? It is mistaken.
I can actually prove you sent the message because it is in my inbox with this new address of yours.
As for me not knowing people who escaped from Sobibór, they may well have forgotten me but I have plenty of films here with people who escaped from the camp. I do not know the chairperson of the Sobibor Foundation Holland either - or for that matter, that such an organisation exists.
What happens to those Who worked in the railroad?
They stayed working on the railway after the war. In those days, people did not change jobs as we do today.
They were not allowed in; The camp staff drove the trains into the Death Camp. If that is what you were asking? It's not like everyone didnt know what was happening though, but they didn't see the death camp in operation.
George Moraes they were on the Eastern Front supplying and bring troops that's where they are at
@lilliteningpea I made notes on other places such as Zyrardów but did not get round to doing anything yet. BTW I have a group on facebook on history which may interest you! The address is above.
@trifelgeputinage Quite. What documental evidence is there that the second world war took place?
OK so Speer joined the winning side by not being executed and therefore by your logic his book was written by the victors?????
@alanheath Oh i just ment you should get more visual material, it doesnt matter from where you get it, if you can find something on the net, then use it and make a combination.
@1:58 I find it extremely difficult to believe the SS would ever take a photograph showing any portion of a gas chamber, not even if it was the old gas chamber and no longer in use.
Why? The photographs were not meant for publication.
@@VanlifewithAlan Too risky. They're so careful to only take "innocent" photographs - a digger, a wooden hut, an officer on horseback, etc. - that it just seems inconceivable to me that they would slip in a picture of an old gas chamber. I'm not even convinced the pictures of the excavator are showing mass graves being dug, even that seems too risky a picture. Seems far more likely to me that it's a picture of some simple landscaping inside the camp - perhaps creating a large mound in a spot that would block the view of something to incoming transports.
Same with the Sobibor photographs. They're extremely careful to not show anything incriminating. Auschwitz too, except for the secret photographs taken by SK members.
Also Wirth/Globocnic/Himmler would definitely have meted out executions if they found out about the pictures (or even the camera) if the pictures had shown anything incriminating, whereas with "innocent" pictures they may just have had them confiscated and a milder punishment.
What does 'common knowledge' mean? I have given you a source - the German papers at the time. Like any news item, interest fades but it still made the papers. In any case I think many were more interested in building their lives but they did not completely lose interest in the trials.
I think many Germans regarded the bombing of Hamburg and Dresden as no better than the Holocaust... We are horrified by the Holocaust because it used "mass production" industrial killing..But I guess, if one is an innocent child, being gassed or burnt in a firestorm is equally bad...
I know very well what happened to Jules Schelvis. You seem to suggest that he was never in the camp.
There may be tons of unsorted documents as I have seen unsorted documents myself but it is not from some cover up or other nonsensical argument. It is just waiting for someone to sort it. The Berlin Documentation Centre is open for all to use.
Wow didnt know that alan, i wonder if franz boxed for it? Thomas Blatt is very interesting how old is he? i believe he was 15 in sobibor? Can't believe he has met wagner (unfortunately) in the flesh also.
Has anyone got a date of death for Arthur Gold in Treblinka and why? Thanks
@tromotromo But as I just pointed out - it has nothing to do with the subject here.
How do you know the German government is keeping information on Treblinka under lock and key? Not only that, but you seem to know what is in this secret information which is not surprising as you have made it up.
@lynchie3000 There is no shortage of fuel - forests all around. It would have taken considerably less fuel than to keep four or five King Tigers in battle for a month.
An extermination camp with a zoo in it. That is just so absurd. By the way I just watched an interview with Kurt Franz here on RUclips. Very chilling!
Train depot
Didn't Franz say it stank for miles around? Hardly a zoo and picnic area?
@alanheath I can't wait to read your notes. Also, I am on your facebook on history. I love that site too, especially the pics
@timpovikings I don't think we will get an answer to that one.
Thank you.
ookkonaaoulusta don't think don't think us it didn't happen it's just communist propaganda remember the Communists and the Bolsheviks cost all this
In fact, there are Revisionist (deniers) who have advanced degrees -- like it or not. I don't like much of what they say either, but in the USA we have the first amendment and are not yet put in prison for thought crime. Noam Chomsky says: "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise , we don't believe in it at all." To state an opinion about something is not incitement to hatred.
Just wanna add that i have a very deep respect for blind people- with no doubt the people i respect the most (when talking about people who arent close to me in a family relation) and in the same time have very much sympathy for, i cant even describe it with words.
@wrather I need to point out that this film is not about the awful performance of England at Wembley last Saturday, nor about the extinction of the passenger pigeon nor for that matter about Chairman Mao - who incidentally was not responsible for the deaths of 200 million and in making silly accusations, the murders of those that were killed are belittled. It is - as the title may suggest - about Treblinka. However if you will pay for my trip to China then I will be glad to do a film there.
@alanheath Thanks Alan!
I am interested. I can't get enough of learning about this time in our world. I find it intriguing and interesting, sad, and not understandable that people could do this to other people.
Thank you again for all you do, and for sharing these sites that I will never get to see in my lifetime. I also enjoy the fact that you tell what's going on in the videos and interesting facts about them that I didn't know.
And how many photographs show killings taking place anywhere - ever? You might also want to read Willenburg or Krzepicki - the latter being published in 1942 as the author was killed in April 1943.
What does 'most people' mean? You mean you. You are not most people. The purpose of the trials is utterly clear - maybe not to you - but it will be for the most people you quote.
It is not unheard of for guards to help prisoners to escape because I know of examples. I cannot see why a guard would want to hide in a camp with false papers - or an inmate for that example.
My guess is that you cannot name a single person who was hanged because of evidence such as this.
@lilliteningpea Sorry, I did not recognise who you were from the facebook group!
It contains a lot of 'knew' (sic) information. It contains a lot of things I know about.
Is there definitive proof these diggers were not actually used for Treblinka 1 - the quarry located nest to Treblinka 2?
Other than the photographs which clearly show the camp you mean? The orders to send the equipment there? The confirmation from the perpetrators that they were there? The eye witnesses who saw them there?
@@VanlifewithAlan Thanks. I read some questionable testimonies that the baggers were from Treblinka #1, but it was likely speculation. I accept they were at Treblinka Camp 2.
The 'zoo' was for the amusement of the guards. The Nazis exhumed the bodies in 1943 and burnt them. I can't see the point of exhuming what is left of ashes.
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Alan:
What do you think of arguments presented by researchers such as Mattogno?
Mattogno is not a researcher. He is racist who lies about history to suit his own perverted ideas. I looked at two of his books, the first one on Bełżec had a deliberate lie, not a mistake, in the very first sentence, the other I read the first page and there were three deliberate lies. He demanded that a colleague take him and one of his mates to Bełżec, my colleague told him how much it would cost and he refused to pay, he seemed to think that my friend should use his own money to take him there. Mattogno is an utter nothing.
@@VanlifewithAlan Thanks for the response. I have no doubt Jews and Gypsies unable to work were murdered in large numbers at the Reinhardt camps. Those starving, half-dead people filmed in the Warsaw Ghetto in 1942 were not sent to convalescent homes. It's just that so many biographies about these three camps are contradictory and vague. I cannot accept testimonies from men like Yankel Wiernik or Abraham Bomba as credible - these people cast a shadow on the historiography of the camps.
@@heiditoffan6968 What is not credible about Wiernik or Bomba?
@@VanlifewithAlan Wiernik makes unbelievable claims in his memoirs. For one, he states he was such a skilled carpenter, that he - and he alone - was allowed access to all the camps in Treblinka - and travelled back and forth between Camp 3 and 1&2. Not even some SS were allowed in and out of Camp 3 according to every other witness - Jew or German. Certainly that alone should get you thinking critically about eye witness testimony - something that I do know something about. Answer that and I can give more examples if you have the time and interest.
@@heiditoffan6968 Who supplied you with that information?
No, 5.5m military plus around 1.2m - 3.2m civilian. I refer you to the works of Dr. Rüdiger Overmans who is leading expert in this field.
To any doubters,look up Hubert Pfoch,his photos and diary.He was German.
Pfoch was drafted in 1940 to the Wehrmacht. In the summer of 1942. Pfoch secretly photographed the transport of Jews from Warsaw to the extermination camp Treblinka in Poland. The photos and Pfoch's diary records were later used as evidence in the Düsseldorf trial against Nazi criminal Franz Stangl. In 1945, Hubert Pfoch deserted from the Wehrmacht and returned to Vienna.
@Loempieja I appreciate that but I have done a lot of original research myself so maybe I am slightly more 'hardened' that the average reader.
@timpovikings There is also nothing to the questions I put here - like asking a denier to name the source for his allegation. He won't because the object of the game is to lie, lie and keep on lying with the aim of creating doubt - the aim of which is racism and nothing else.
No Nazi official who was involved in the camps ever denied it - despite being on trial for their lives in some cases.
@alanheath Thanks Alan, I've come across a few of these loons, I've found that once you challenge them on their lies and fantasies they crumble pretty quickly, it's just sad that such idiots exist, if it wasn't such a serious subject they would be harmless eccentrics - like flat Earthers and the like, but I feel it's important to challenge them. Good job with the videos!
HCN caused around one third of the people in the gas chamber to die instantly according to a guess by Hoess. The others would have died much more slowly and the proof of this is the evidence given by the Sonderkommando who talked of a pyramid shaped pile of people reaching to get as a high as possible away from the gas.
Alan Heath since this was Treblinka and therefore an ARC-camp, then Stangl, Frans, Suchomel, Wagner among a few other witnesses are more first hand testimonies than Höss about what happened there.
Höss had (according to himself) visited Treblinka only at one occasion.
Zyklon B was never used in the ARC-camps. Instead they used exhaust gases from stationary tank engines (a truck engine in the case of Chelmno).
Vietnam was not the only country that fell to the communists. Laos and Cambodia did too. Not what I would call a victory.
I apologise it may not have been published at all alan i think wirths life is interesting just in the fact of the way be behaved to everyone and why. I would love to read it as i think the doc also has info from suchmol? He has good info ao the staff's personalities
Thank you - nice to hear!
In the background at 3:30 you can see separate mounds of human ashes
@lynchie3000 Lets suppose for one second that it is genuinely there. So there is a mistake. No-one believes that today. I am responsible for my mistakes. Why not question the person who wrote it?
@alanheath Alan, I visited Treblinka today, a day later than was planned, but i was in Warsaw for an extra day than planned!! I have some interesting videos of the sites of the mass graves. I found things which certain people say they cannot see at Treblinka with relative ease - i didnt have to dig etc.....I was wondering if i could discuss with you in more detail somehow? but away from the denier liars and trolls. Cheers. James Hopkinson
Thanks for this Alan. Keeping speaking the truth.
Ah i understand now, thought there were still whole bodies down there .
That zoo is downright bizarre. The whole place must have reeked
@lynchie3000 Why don't you try saying exactly where it is - if you did not make it up yourself.