Mandarin Garnet Value
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- Опубликовано: 19 июл 2023
- Mandarin garnet, or spessartite, is one gem that I love to invest in. This video will explore how I see the value points and make my buying decisions.
For those interested in acquiring spessartite contact directly via: www.gemshepherd.com or
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I'll have to watch this at least one more time so this can all soak in. Excellent points on why spessartite is a good choice for authentic untreated gems.
Yes indeed - and getting to see enough stones in person will broaden your horizons aswell. Cheers
what other gems are untreated?
Im hooked on em. Nothing else ive seen so far offers such a bright range of colors.
Dope... much love from Sri Lanka
Thanks very much~
I think it is great that you are now showing value along with beauty. This is more lilke what your youtube channel should have been all along. It should be good for your business and be more educational for those of us not currently in the market for any given type of stone.
Thanks very much. I agree, and also believe it has a level of "value innovation" that has the capacity to serve us all in an organic way. Cheers
If im leaving too many coments let me know, but, im getting more of these. The camera doesnt do this mineral justice. I dont think it can truly capture the depth of color this gem has to offer. If the faceted stones' colors are anything like the tangerine cabs, im sure its something to behold.
Comments are more than welcome~ fear not. I agree on the camera vs reality point - there are some things that just can't be captured effectively by technology at this point. In some ways thats frustrating, but also it means that there is something still out there in this world that you literally have to come in contact with personally in order to experience it. There is not remote enjoyment of real colour.
I agree my vivid yellowish orange diamond looks like fanta orange but it is seldomly photogenic and telegenic coz it looks so much better in person.
Thank for your great video . Very nice collection, beautiful pieces.
Thank you~
Finally got the larger of the two cabs I purchased set in a pendant, and silver makes it pop even better. For a second attempt, its wearable. Pretty exciting. Im going to post a video with it soon.
Congrats on the achievement~
@@GemologyforSchmucksThank you. It's a pretty good feeling.
thx for another great video
My pleasure~
all of them are so pretty
Thank you~ I make a point of collecting the best i can find 🎉❤
This one was really helpful!
Im glad~ hopefully it makes the conversation and decisions easier for everyone.
@@GemologyforSchmucks for me it does. Always helps to see some numbers, even when missing some information (like beeing able to see the colour first hand)
Also something interesting: most spessartines are highly magnetic and will be picked up or dragged by a strong rare earth magnet. Not diagnostic, but a fun test to do.
I've heard this aswell - unfortunately these magnets are regulated by the authority here in Thailand, for whatever reason.
so a regular magnet won't work?
@@rainbowstar2775 it’s gotta be one of the strong rare earth magnets - they’re usually shiny and not the black ceramic looking ones
I love mandarin garnets
Meeeee too.
That’s very pretty material. It would make some lovely flowers. Maybe someday.
Thank you~ i'm quite partial to it myself.
Orange is my fave, too! ❤ I'm obsessed with Spessartine 😍🤩
It's a great stone, and regardless of the weather. Even in the dead of winter, it screaaams.
@@GemologyforSchmucks ..and it's ready for Fall all year 😃
@@AStri-zg5xc Its like pumpkin spice, but on my hand XD
@@GemologyforSchmucks youre speaking my language! Im a big fan of Jack o lanterns/pumpkins and have a design in mind showcasing a spessertine or orange sapphire as the "pumpkin" and a small peridot or even maybe a nice tsavorite as the leaf/stem. 😁
Maybe it would be useful to present some rough stones to.
Thank for your work.
Thanks for the suggestion. Rough stones run through quite a different pipe-line than cut stones, so showing overlapping qualities of rough and cut at this time seems out of reach.
Good Job Brother. Have a nice day . I am from Sri Lanka .
Thank you ~ may you have a nice day aswell.
Would be awesome if you could do another one of these types of videos on topaz ❤
Thanks for the suggestion.
After seeing some in person i see the obsession. Its almost glows
Doesn't it so!
@@GemologyforSchmucks Very pretty stone. It does stick to a strong magnet, also.
Nice collection
Thank you ~ I keep growing it XD
That is actually a very pretty gemstone! Kind of looks like Amber a little. 👍
Thanks very much ~ I also enjoy amber, though spessartite has some strong advantages. Its much tougher, rarer and often a much purer orange rather than the autumn yellow-brown of amber.
Its now a goal of mine to get that elongated octagon. I cant forget it. Lol
Thats what happened to me too XD. I saw it once and it haunted me, so i had to go back and buy it.
Excellent video I'd love to see your stat sapphires 👀😯❤️
Soon~ putting the final touches on that content here shortly.
Your knowledge of stones is extraordinary.
Just subscribed, and I look forward to learning more.
I'm hoping you can help me master price points. Ofc.
Thanks~ the first step of mastering price points is making sure you can accurately identify the quality of the stones. Second step is seeing enough stones to know what is actually rare. Finally, shop as much as you can.
Wow. They're gorgeous. Fascinating video. Thank you.
Thanks very much~
👍👍👍
Thx
I have a 26.7 carat oval mixed cut spessartine that was identified by IGI as a transparent Almandine-Spessartite. Unfortunately it has small crystal inclusions in it… it is pure orange (no brown overtone). I am scared that it may be worth nothing because they are eye visible lol.
Colour is number one. Then we can look at clarity and decide if the stone is still beautiful. If it is, it doesn't matter if its not totally clean.
It is still worth alot.
Great video is their a orange garnets called Hessonite
Thank you ~ Hessonite is definitely real, yes. It tends not to be as orange as the best coloured spessartite. That said~ some mediocre spessartite can be indistinguishable by eye with hessonite. I have another video on the spectroscope, which makes investing and trading in spessartite smoother in my opinion. (link below)
ruclips.net/video/ul3dGfsNW_A/видео.htmlsi=IG6kUcZPYy2Kc7E3
So a general question...is it possible to get extremely high quality (transparency/clarity/color) cabachons ...or are those almost immediately gobbled up for faceting)...for some strange reason i like cabachons...if you already answered this question, maybe let me know what video?
Great question, and yes it is totally possible, though highly unlikely. Many dealers that get ahold of facet-grade rough have it faceted because they believe that will give them the highest value. I don't think that is objectively true, but the practical truth is that some people associate facets with higher quality material. Thats like the general belief that if a gemstone is in silver jewelry, it must be cheap. In my mind that is illogical. To come full circle - if I came accross high quality rough, i'd likely have it cabbed first while thinking long and hard about what final faceting pattern I may want. At the end of the day, the rarity and quality of the material and the objective beauty are what drive the price.
@@GemologyforSchmucks thanks for that info...I like your comment about silver settings...I got a really nice unheated red ruby that i paid considerable amount of money for and when i decide to get it set into a ring, it will be in silver ! I went to a jeweler and he actually told me he will only set it in Gold/platinum...I guess i will have to find someone else when the time comes...
@@superfluity-of-naughtiness777 part of the challenge of getting skilled goldsmiths to work with silver is the price point. Many feel that they don't get appropriately compensated for their skill level if they work in silver.
Come to srilanka 🙏❤️🖤
Hopefully soon ~
Hello I have recently found a large deposit of spessartine and I believe many of them are gem quality I would like some advice as to weather I should keep it in large specimens or have them faceted
Specimens value is in whether or not they have well formed crystal faces and if they're attached to appealing mother rock. If it doesn't check those two boxes... you can get them faceted.
@@GemologyforSchmucks I’m sending you a couple of photos .. and maybe even a couple more I don’t want to bombard you with it but these are some perfect large and small specimens in a myriad of delicious clarity and colors maybe even color changing ? I have a specimen on the hill that is over 100 lbs with crystals all the way around
Hey brother, great videos! How would you suggest a newbie like myself get into selling as a beginning trader? Ive got a decent collection but no luck selling yet
Hi Gavin, selling and trading any object of value has a similar first step: cultivate your network. It's the same as if you wanted to buy and sell antique furniture, paintings, cars, horses, or anything else. What I suggest is that you find your suitable way to get in front of people that are interested in gemstones, find out what items they're interested in, and what price point they're able to deal with. It's just like if you take the Mona Lisa and try to sell it to people who have no interest in art or antiquity, or cannot afford it, there will be no deal. On the other side, if you take paintings that sell like hot cakes at craft-fairs, and try to sell them to the folks interested in Mona Lisa, Rembrandt and Picasso, there will likely be no deal. Both sell, but in different contexts with different people, with different budgets and priorities.
@GemologyforSchmucks there doesn't seem to be a market for gems in my neck of the woods so I gotta keep looking. Thanks for the "gem" you dropped me 😁
@@gavinalderman4428 Definitely keep looking. It may be that gems in your neck of the woods are your "blue ocean" and you just have to figure out your way into it. Cheers and best of luck.
@GemologyforSchmucks been at it for over a year, and STILL absolutely fired up everytime i see anything gem-related. Maybe gems are supposed to be my thing😏
Maybe you have covered this in your old videos, but I want to ask about aquamarine vs emerald. I bought this 1.5 carat beryl, pear shape cut, nice polish, very clean with few noticable inclusions and it is bluish green. I have tested this gem at a local lab. The lab confirmed that this gem is natural beryl and no indication of oil, dye, heating, or coating so the color is natural but the gemologist did not conclude that this gem is an emerald, but an aquamarine instead. He said that this gem is too clear for an untreated emerald, and the color has bluish undertone like unheated aquamarine. What do you think about this gem? Personally I don't really care aa long as this gem is natural beryl and untreated because it has rich colour and very clean so it is very beautiful gem.
An excellent question - from the gemologist point of view, the "too clear for untreated emerald" comment is ignorant. It is commonly true, but it is not objectively true. In Afghan (Panjshir) and some Russian emeralds, you can find extroardinarily clean and large emeralds with nice colour. Some look closer to tourmaline, and others are obviously and inarguably emerald, but anyhow.
One major basic influence is the geological conditions that emeralds occur in, compared to aquamarine, so there is a lot of wild science to dig into on the reactions and chemistry involved there.
More specifically to your stone, in this era, an aquamarine that has a strong green component often can be removed with light heating, and this is undetectable. That colour is unstable. The blue is stable. With "green beryl", the green colour is caused by the chemistry of the stone, and is stable. More intensely coloured green beryl is often designated as emerald.
So... yes, it a complex topic, and i'll look for an opportunity to put together a video to clear it up and help folks understand the value points and key issues in the value conversation.
So to really make sure it is an emerald, I have to heat it lightly to prove that the green is stable? Because ultimately the difference between aquamarine and emerald is the trace element. Aquamarine have iron while emerald have vanadium or chromium. To give you more clues, this gem origin is Madagascar and the gem trader only stated that it is "green beryl" and untreated so I kinda doubt the gem.
@@lc4n333 I do not recommend heating the stone yourself. The wrong temperatures and times can irreparably harm or alter your stone.
I would not worry too much about treatment on the colour you've described. With the highly unstable colours, its usually a peculiar and intense blue-grey colour, and it fades quite quickly (days) in the presence of sunlight (a pretty safe test is to put it on your windowsill, as long as you're not worried about possible theft XD ).
First 🎉
wooohooo~!
Can I find a.buyers.for srilankan gemstone
As they say: if you offer it, someone will buy. The universal question becomes "who". That is your quest - fair faring.
how i would pay you if i was to buy one of your rocks ?
Excellent question ~ for first interactions, I usually go for paypal for its simplicity. Otherwise, for larger purchases and or clients with an established relationship, I prefer to go through Transferwise, as they don't eat 5%, and accommodate many different currencies with an excellent exchange rate. If you'd like to discuss this further, you're welcome to email me at thegemshepherd@gmail.com
Thanks for the question~
2nd
congrats~!
2,16 ct 2000$?😂
If you don't see the value, you're welcome not to buy.