So grateful I don’t have to deal with vine borer or squash bug. My biggest pest are slugs. And powdery mildew strikes every year at some point. Usually early autumn as the plants are dying back anyway. That weird bug looked like a cross between a shield bug and a praying mantis. I’m curious did you plant the same varieties in each of the beds ? Ie : butternut and Hubbard in no dig and butternut and Hubbard in the till bed. Looking forward to harvesting my winter squash next week. The grandchildren are with me and it’s supposed to be dry. But our wether is always changeable. Ps. Love the T - shirt 👕
As much as we could, we had one of each plant on each side. We quickly lost track, though, when the plants got huge. So I'm not 100% sure what is still living. I should have mentioned in the video that we also need much taller labels. They were hard to see and got lost real quick. I didn't see any powdery mildew yet, but mom says they always do. Have a great time with the grandkids! Cheers Colleen
For powdery mildew, definitely give the milk spray a try! Go about 1:8 or 1:9 milk:water ratio. It’s been working for me wonderfully the last two years.
Ha! You've got a bad case of the "Late-Summer-I'm-Done-With-The-Squash" disease! Staggered plantings for summer squash is key. For winter squash, tilling the garden, and adding LOTS of manure has added to our success! Cheers!
Cool Rich !! It's next level down here !! I like that idea for winter squash. Interestingly they have had less pressure than the summer squash 🤔🤔🤔 Thanks for the tips, we totally appreciate it!! Cheers J&C 🌱🤞👍🤜🤛🇺🇸🇸🇪
2:23 is a leaf footed bug. It's our most common squash bug, lol. Lol, Toothpicks and chaos work like a charm. 😆 I love Steve's method too! I know you lost some plants but you did a fantastic job keeping them going with the pest pressure! 🌱💕
It's next level down here, Andrea lol !! It was a lot of work but we learned a few things for next year. Not caring, is at the top of the list 🤣 Stay Awesome Jason and Colleen 🌱🤞👍🤣😊
You are right. At first it looked like an assassin bug, a beneficial, until I seen the back legs. Hard to tell the two apart. One has to look closely. Good eyes and a good catch.
@@growclipbonsaiforseniors1951 The easiest way for me to tell them apart is that assassin bugs have what looks like a vertical saw blade on its back. They're all creepy to me. Lol! 🤣
🤣 You got squashed out. That happened to me a few years ago with cucumbers. I got over run with them and couldn't give them away fast enough. 😅 For Till vs NoTill, do you intend to till the till side again next year? I don't think it's a problem to do a 1 time till then leave it no till after that. Especially on new ground. My new bed that I planted sweet corn in would have benefited from a 1 time till. Coming to IL from Victoria is like learning to garden again because the soil and weather is so different. Thanks for the channel shout out. 👍
Thanks for all the help Ya, "1 time disturbance" didn't fit on the Thumbnail 😂 Won't rule anything our, especially if a cover crop gets away from us lol. But the roots have such an easier time imo !! Thanks again brother !! Cheers J&C 🌱🤞👍🇺🇸🇨🇦
Impressive harvests! I enjoyed hearing your takeaways. Not sure if anyone mentioned but that’s a leaf-footed bug and they (plus their nymphs) can cause major damage.
You exactly right Val !! For as many bugs as we've had, (the year being especially bad apparently) we've been really lucky to have relatively little damage !! Hope you Awesome!! Cheers J&C 🌱🤞🤜🤛👍😊
We true tilled our two main in-ground gardens once each. Since, we simply add compost regularly and have lately gotten into cover crops to keep the soil ecosystem thriving. It works well. But note, we do cultivate the top dressing in about 4 inches. So it is not technically "no dig" but it is technically not tilling either. One thing you might check out between the two is what is in that soil? A sample test from the state extension agency will tell you exactly what's going on down there. :)
We had 3 test from Logan Labs in the spring. Best $75 I spent in the garden imo. Excellent points, Jules. we're in the midst of trialing 3 different cover crops atm and we'll definitely use them extensively this fall and winter !! Thanks for your insights really appreciated it 👍 Cheers J&C 🌱🤞🤜🤛👍
That was super comprehensive!!! definitely a go to video for everything squash issues!! Pests always get my pumpkins and only let me get a few zucchini & yellow squash so I need to try your methods! Time will tell on the till/no till...multi year experiment is my guess!! Fantastic video C&J!!!🪱🪱🪱
I wonder if you have even more unbelievable bugs in Florida than we do here in Illinois. I have to say that the cucumber beetle seems the most challenging. There are relatively simple treatments for the other big ones, but that cucumber beetle is a bugger! I bet with just a couple measures, you could get at least 4 or 5 squashes! Maybe try growing smaller pumpkins? Like those really cute white ones? I bet you could get those to work. Cheers, Colleen
@@clivesconundrumgarden I need to give the smaller ones a try for sure! It seems like we have more pests but really it maybe that it is just super intense for 3 months, then subsides. The problem is we don't have one long growing season we have two shorter ones because the mid summer months are too humid and pest intense for veggie gardens. We all need to move to Hawaii and grow all year around!!
Really great detective work, Colleen! I didn't plant any winter squash this year and just have two containers with zucchini. That's enough for our little space. I had one spaghetti squash plant take over a few years ago and got 25 squash from it. Do you know they will last all winter just sitting on the kitchen counter?? Anyway, I buy organic butternut, acorn, kuri, etc., from local farms because I just don't want to dedicate that much space to them. Stay awesome! ~ Sandra
I think anyone who has access to a good, organic market gardner should consider just getting their squash from them. They can do such a good job of doing it and have the space. We have one here that grows a lot of the squash we like anyway, but it is nice to have some patty pans in our own garden. But he grows mashed potato and baked potato squash! We got some yesterday and will try them soon! And you're right - two zucchini plants is more than enough for two people! Hope you're both well. hugs, Colleen
I agree Colleen, I always find my second year of no-dig/no-till much more productive than the first year, it will be interesting to see what you get next year although like you said, do you really want that much squash 🤣. Take care 😊
I'm gonna plant something else there, Bethan! I just picked like 10 more pounds of squash today. We haven't even started the winter squash harvest yet! We'll have to think about what we want to have a gut of next year! Cheers Colleen
Lots of really great ideas on pest solutions! My main method is heavy companion planting & manually picking them off & then I do sacrificial plants. Seems to work well. In Texas the pests are relentless because they never die off in the Winter buuut I have an idea for that! Ya'all are doing so great this season! And I can 1000% relate about having soooooo much squash 😂 #squashforyears 😂 P.s. Love the shirt Colleen 🖤
She says thanks a million Rebecca!! Really awesome video and one of her best imo :) Didn't you have the idea of cayenne or cinnamon o something else lol sorry hot day in the garden 😂😂 Texas and Alabama are even crazier than here ???? Whaaaa that's nutz !! Stay Awesome Rebecca Cheers J&C 🌱🤞👍🤜🤛😊
@clivesconundrumgarden oh! Yes! This year I also used turmeric & saw great results with it! I can't believe I forgot to mention that 😅 One of her best videos too I think! And yes, the pests are way worse here. I originally started gardening in Ohio & their weather is very similar to Illinois & while the pests there are absolutely horrid, Texas has like a whole slu of bugs I've never heard of or seen 😳 😂
@clivesconundrumgarden honestly, aside from the severe dry weather ( zero rain) & the occasional hail storm, Colorado was a breeze. The lack of rain gave us disease free tomatoes. I had terra cotta watering containers everywhere since it was the desert. The peppers & eggplant didn't do great without nighttime help since it is cold nights. But honestly, it was hands down the easiest place to garden. The pests didn't really show up as long as you went heavy on companion planting cause they die off in Winter. I miss how easy gardening was there, but I am thankful that Texas has taught me a lot & has really seasoned me as a gardener. This year has been the year of learning for me for sure!
@littlefootranch4410 awsomeness!! We went to a farm yesterday. We met them a the Farmers Market. They grow 1000's of lbs of food in basically sand. It was an eye opening experience and super fun:))) You can grow in anything, just need to observe and evolve ;)
Hi guys id get a hand vacuum and suck the squash bugs away when they hatch if you miss with vaseline. My pumpkins are growing on my dug potato beds and are doing great, who'd of thought.🤠👍
That's awesome brother!! We had an area under a huge cedar tree. Hard pan and filled with roots, the potatoes busted up the soil awesome and we grew beans the next year !! Thanks for the tin foil tip !! Cheers J&C 🌱🤞👍🤠🤜🤛👍🇬🇧🇺🇸
There are so many factors that could influence whether no dig vs dig performs better! I personally prefer digging because I do trench composting and lasagna composting. My yard produces so much waste it's the only way to manage my waste but also feed the garden. I would assume overall though dig method probably performs better. In years that I dig the garden more thoroughly before planting I usually have better success. Also digging adds oxygen down into the soil which is beneficial
Great points Lisa. It's been a big change from Victoria to here but we've enjoyed trying different methods. Hope you having a great long weekend!! Colleen 😊
Nice experiment, really comparing two different ways of planting. I think next year the no till side will catch up a bit. Crazy year for bugs in WI too, never had aphids, flea beetles or squash vine borers, 1st year finding earwigs in my broccoli. That was a leaf footed bug, you had a bunch of their orange larva on a plant in a short video a while back. OBTW, they are a plant pest. Totally agree on trellising winter squash, and I like to vertically grow my zucchini. I had 2 plants in a pretty small space, trimming the bottom leaves as it grows and tying to a bamboo pole. I let it sprawl out a bit and found a zucchini I had missed that was gigantic, put on the free table, someone took it. For sure will not let the aluminum foil stay on the plant so long, the rest of the plant is still doing well. Will be interesting to see next years progress. Stay Well!!!
Hey check out The Old Alabama Gardener video on squash. Excellent way to prep them before transplanting imo !! It's next level down here foresure but we've learned a ton and we'll improve year over year 🤞 Thanks for the awesome comments Brian, we totally appreciate it !! Cheers J&C 🌱🤞👍🇺🇸🤜🤛
So will you keep the experiment going, till the one side again and just add compost to the no till side? So many bugs want to eat all of the veggies. Pest pressure was bad for me and I did not stay on top of it.
That's the plan for now Rick but you know us lol !! We're planning a big expansion so we'll see how things go !! People round here said it was an exceptionally bad year for pests. Fingers crossed for next year!! Cheers J&C 🌱🤞👍🤜🤛🇺🇸
I think Gary pilarchik (the Rusted Garden 😂😂 no relation) uses wood ash on his vines but I’d have to go back and check. Luckily or not I’ve done most of mine in pots so far so good. Have a super Labour Day weekend kiddos, Ali 🌻🇨🇦
Thanks Ali !!! We'll check it out but I can't believe the peat pressure down here. I waiting for a VW beetle to drive through the garden 😂😂😂 Hope you have a great Labour Day !! Cheers tge kiddos 🌱🤞👍🤜🤛🇺🇸🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
Great presentation Colleen. I think there is far too much inflexibility around the dig / no dig methodology. Too many "experts" give out the advice that this or that has to be adhered to or else dreadful things will happen. In my experience I have had great crops from both methods and personally I'd like you to try the same methodology on the two areas next year to see if the no till side comes along better. The point a lot of people miss out on is soil type, as you guys have perfectly investigated (in past videos) the percentage of clays really makes a difference, and in that way you are lucky to be able to experience different types, I only have my local medium loam to pass on my thoughts, you wonderful people have the two soil types. I have no experience of your pests, but as a general rule of thumb it is better to make a home for whatever nature eats your pests than to try and eradicate them yourselves.
You're right about the pests. There is a squash they just love and many people use it as a trap. Problem is it's one my mom really likes, too! I think it's the Mother Hubbard winter squash. And we do feel lucky about being able to experience such a different climate and soil. It just really emphasizes how flexible gardening has to be. Cheers Colleen
I'm feeling grateful I dont have those little horrors! Squash grow amazing for you yet so many pests. Squash grows poorly for me with no pests. We all have such interesting location factors.
Ha! We had to work REALLY hard to get them to grow in Victoria before the powdery mildew took over - but that was just from a lack of heat. What kind of challenges do you have with your squash? Cheers, Colleen
Ok, I'm so happy to say we don't get the bugs that you do. I really didn't know you cut the bottom leaves off, which makes perfect sense, although I've never done it and my plants die extra early..🤔🤣😂 I, basically don't till as I'm not able bodied, so it's no dig all the way... BUT . I'm probably wrong here....if you till, you are loosening the ground up 4" below ground ( give or take), which will let the roots grow down to make a more sturdy plant then it can concentrate on the top growing and producing.. No till ... maybe under the amendments that you have placed there, the soil will be more compact, therefore the plant would maybe not be able to grow its roots down far as quickly and may have to concentrate on both anchorage and producing through its life... I'm probably taking a load of rubbish but that's my theory..🤔🐮🐮🐮 Stay awesome...🐮🐮🐮
Lol - not rubish, Manda - I think Jason agrees with you that in our particular context (SO MUCH CLAY!!) the ground is more likely to get heavy - not sure if it gets truly compact if we just walk on it, but that must have some effect. So yes, root growth just has to be a bit slower in the no-till. No-till worked GREAT for us when we had sandier soil - but maybe that also corresponds to your theory - that kind of soil was less likely to get compact because of it's components - more sand and sandy loam. I think your theory has some merit! And yes, you would get carried away by some of the bugs here! Giant!! lol - cheers, Colleen
@@clivesconundrumgarden thank you.. I'm glad you thought i was talking sense 🤣😂 We do have on giant grasshopper here , I've never seen one that big before until I got my allotment it's about 2/3 inches long, now that I am scared of and I have been known to do a little girly scream when I see one...😱🐮🐮🐮
Good point, Anne - we don't have quite as many hungry worms to feed as you do, but I will tell you secretly that Jason's worms that he got from you are doing fabulous! He's been regularly harvesting castings already. Stay cool this weekend! Cheers, Colleen
Impressive harvests! I enjoyed hearing your takeaways. Not sure if anyone mentioned but that’s a leaf-footed bug and they (plus their nymphs) can cause major damage.
Thanks Val!! We'll add Leaf-footed bug to the laundry list 😂😂😂 It's next level down hear. In Victoria everyone goes nuts when they see an aphid 😂😂😂 Stay Awesome Val !! Cheers J&C 🌱🤞👍🤜🤛😊
I forget how bad the bugs are over there...until I talk to my dad or brother and they go through the list of insects they're battling at any given time. I bet your Victoria garden is looking pretty carefree from your new point of view!@@clivesconundrumgarden
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So grateful I don’t have to deal with vine borer or squash bug. My biggest pest are slugs. And powdery mildew strikes every year at some point. Usually early autumn as the plants are dying back anyway. That weird bug looked like a cross between a shield bug and a praying mantis.
I’m curious did you plant the same varieties in each of the beds ? Ie : butternut and Hubbard in no dig and butternut and Hubbard in the till bed.
Looking forward to harvesting my winter squash next week. The grandchildren are with me and it’s supposed to be dry. But our wether is always changeable.
Ps. Love the T - shirt 👕
As much as we could, we had one of each plant on each side. We quickly lost track, though, when the plants got huge. So I'm not 100% sure what is still living. I should have mentioned in the video that we also need much taller labels. They were hard to see and got lost real quick.
I didn't see any powdery mildew yet, but mom says they always do.
Have a great time with the grandkids! Cheers Colleen
@@clivesconundrumgarden big labels are a great idea.
Notes taken!!
For powdery mildew, definitely give the milk spray a try! Go about 1:8 or 1:9 milk:water ratio. It’s been working for me wonderfully the last two years.
@@coloradotulips I go heavy on the milk and usually mix a 50/50 solution. As you say works great. And so easy. 💦🥛
Learning from each other is awesome my friend's.
♻️Happy gardening, Terry King.
Thanks Terry - I'll be happy when I'm not learning quite as much - my brain had quite a workout this summer! Cheers, Colleen
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@@terrykingsallotmentgardening 😊😊😊
Ha! You've got a bad case of the "Late-Summer-I'm-Done-With-The-Squash" disease! Staggered plantings for summer squash is key. For winter squash, tilling the garden, and adding LOTS of manure has added to our success! Cheers!
Cool Rich !! It's next level down here !! I like that idea for winter squash. Interestingly they have had less pressure than the summer squash 🤔🤔🤔
Thanks for the tips, we totally appreciate it!!
Cheers J&C 🌱🤞👍🤜🤛🇺🇸🇸🇪
2:23 is a leaf footed bug. It's our most common squash bug, lol.
Lol, Toothpicks and chaos work like a charm. 😆
I love Steve's method too! I know you lost some plants but you did a fantastic job keeping them going with the pest pressure! 🌱💕
It's next level down here, Andrea lol !! It was a lot of work but we learned a few things for next year.
Not caring, is at the top of the list 🤣
Stay Awesome
Jason and Colleen 🌱🤞👍🤣😊
You are right. At first it looked like an assassin bug, a beneficial, until I seen the back legs. Hard to tell the two apart. One has to look closely. Good eyes and a good catch.
@@growclipbonsaiforseniors1951 The easiest way for me to tell them apart is that assassin bugs have what looks like a vertical saw blade on its back. They're all creepy to me. Lol! 🤣
@DiggingForHealth thanks a million Andrea !! Those things are crazy!!
@growclipbonsaiforseniors1951 thanks Tom !! Yes, it's definitely a leaf-footed bug.
Some great tips there guys have a great week
Thanks, Duncan! I imagine you don't really deal with the same pests! Cheers Colleen
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🤣 You got squashed out. That happened to me a few years ago with cucumbers. I got over run with them and couldn't give them away fast enough. 😅 For Till vs NoTill, do you intend to till the till side again next year? I don't think it's a problem to do a 1 time till then leave it no till after that. Especially on new ground. My new bed that I planted sweet corn in would have benefited from a 1 time till. Coming to IL from Victoria is like learning to garden again because the soil and weather is so different. Thanks for the channel shout out. 👍
Thanks for all the help
Ya, "1 time disturbance" didn't fit on the Thumbnail 😂
Won't rule anything our, especially if a cover crop gets away from us lol.
But the roots have such an easier time imo !!
Thanks again brother !!
Cheers J&C 🌱🤞👍🇺🇸🇨🇦
Enjoyed watching. That was a lot of very good information. Thank you for sharing. ❤❤
Thank you very much, Patricia. Lots of work, but it's been worth it.
Cheers Colleen 😊
Impressive harvests! I enjoyed hearing your takeaways. Not sure if anyone mentioned but that’s a leaf-footed bug and they (plus their nymphs) can cause major damage.
You exactly right Val !! For as many bugs as we've had, (the year being especially bad apparently) we've been really lucky to have relatively little damage !!
Hope you Awesome!!
Cheers J&C 🌱🤞🤜🤛👍😊
Good information sharing. 👍👍 The gardens look awesome!
We true tilled our two main in-ground gardens once each. Since, we simply add compost regularly and have lately gotten into cover crops to keep the soil ecosystem thriving. It works well. But note, we do cultivate the top dressing in about 4 inches. So it is not technically "no dig" but it is technically not tilling either. One thing you might check out between the two is what is in that soil? A sample test from the state extension agency will tell you exactly what's going on down there. :)
We had 3 test from Logan Labs in the spring. Best $75 I spent in the garden imo.
Excellent points, Jules. we're in the midst of trialing 3 different cover crops atm and we'll definitely use them extensively this fall and winter !!
Thanks for your insights really appreciated it 👍
Cheers J&C 🌱🤞🤜🤛👍
Great advice Colleen, important lessons learned. Especially timing when it comes to the pests 😊🌱
Agreed about the timing. Everything will look perfect and lush and then the bugs come in! Cheers Colleen
That was super comprehensive!!! definitely a go to video for everything squash issues!! Pests always get my pumpkins and only let me get a few zucchini & yellow squash so I need to try your methods! Time will tell on the till/no till...multi year experiment is my guess!! Fantastic video C&J!!!🪱🪱🪱
I wonder if you have even more unbelievable bugs in Florida than we do here in Illinois.
I have to say that the cucumber beetle seems the most challenging. There are relatively simple treatments for the other big ones, but that cucumber beetle is a bugger!
I bet with just a couple measures, you could get at least 4 or 5 squashes!
Maybe try growing smaller pumpkins? Like those really cute white ones? I bet you could get those to work. Cheers, Colleen
@@clivesconundrumgarden I need to give the smaller ones a try for sure! It seems like we have more pests but really it maybe that it is just super intense for 3 months, then subsides. The problem is we don't have one long growing season we have two shorter ones because the mid summer months are too humid and pest intense for veggie gardens. We all need to move to Hawaii and grow all year around!!
Loved it! Such great advice and examples, Colleen!
Thanks Tulips! Lemme tell ya, if you want examples of bugs, just come see me lol Cheers Colleen 🪲🪲
Happy Morning to you, Colleen ❤
I think you're right about Till/no Till....time will tell ❤Hi Jason 👋
Stay awesome
❤Peggy❤
Good morning Peggy! We've done really well to eat or freeze all the squash at far. Nothing yet doe the worms! Cheers Colleen and Jason
Awesome share. I pull mine and replant. I get all the bugs and powdery mildew.
I have to wonder if that's not really the best method. Certainly less aggravating! Cheers Colleen
Really great detective work, Colleen! I didn't plant any winter squash this year and just have two containers with zucchini. That's enough for our little space. I had one spaghetti squash plant take over a few years ago and got 25 squash from it. Do you know they will last all winter just sitting on the kitchen counter?? Anyway, I buy organic butternut, acorn, kuri, etc., from local farms because I just don't want to dedicate that much space to them. Stay awesome!
~ Sandra
I think anyone who has access to a good, organic market gardner should consider just getting their squash from them. They can do such a good job of doing it and have the space.
We have one here that grows a lot of the squash we like anyway, but it is nice to have some patty pans in our own garden. But he grows mashed potato and baked potato squash! We got some yesterday and will try them soon!
And you're right - two zucchini plants is more than enough for two people!
Hope you're both well. hugs, Colleen
I agree Colleen, I always find my second year of no-dig/no-till much more productive than the first year, it will be interesting to see what you get next year although like you said, do you really want that much squash 🤣. Take care 😊
I'm gonna plant something else there, Bethan! I just picked like 10 more pounds of squash today. We haven't even started the winter squash harvest yet! We'll have to think about what we want to have a gut of next year! Cheers Colleen
Lots of really great ideas on pest solutions! My main method is heavy companion planting & manually picking them off & then I do sacrificial plants. Seems to work well. In Texas the pests are relentless because they never die off in the Winter buuut I have an idea for that!
Ya'all are doing so great this season! And I can 1000% relate about having soooooo much squash 😂 #squashforyears 😂
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Love the shirt Colleen 🖤
She says thanks a million Rebecca!!
Really awesome video and one of her best imo :)
Didn't you have the idea of cayenne or cinnamon o something else lol sorry hot day in the garden 😂😂
Texas and Alabama are even crazier than here ???? Whaaaa that's nutz !!
Stay Awesome Rebecca
Cheers J&C 🌱🤞👍🤜🤛😊
@clivesconundrumgarden oh! Yes! This year I also used turmeric & saw great results with it! I can't believe I forgot to mention that 😅
One of her best videos too I think!
And yes, the pests are way worse here. I originally started gardening in Ohio & their weather is very similar to Illinois & while the pests there are absolutely horrid, Texas has like a whole slu of bugs I've never heard of or seen 😳 😂
@@littlefootranch4410 😂😂😂 iwas close !!
What was it like in Colorado?
@clivesconundrumgarden honestly, aside from the severe dry weather ( zero rain) & the occasional hail storm, Colorado was a breeze. The lack of rain gave us disease free tomatoes. I had terra cotta watering containers everywhere since it was the desert. The peppers & eggplant didn't do great without nighttime help since it is cold nights. But honestly, it was hands down the easiest place to garden. The pests didn't really show up as long as you went heavy on companion planting cause they die off in Winter.
I miss how easy gardening was there, but I am thankful that Texas has taught me a lot & has really seasoned me as a gardener. This year has been the year of learning for me for sure!
@littlefootranch4410 awsomeness!! We went to a farm yesterday. We met them a the Farmers Market. They grow 1000's of lbs of food in basically sand. It was an eye opening experience and super fun:)))
You can grow in anything, just need to observe and evolve ;)
Hi guys id get a hand vacuum and suck the squash bugs away when they hatch if you miss with vaseline. My pumpkins are growing on my dug potato beds and are doing great, who'd of thought.🤠👍
That's awesome brother!! We had an area under a huge cedar tree. Hard pan and filled with roots, the potatoes busted up the soil awesome and we grew beans the next year !!
Thanks for the tin foil tip !!
Cheers J&C 🌱🤞👍🤠🤜🤛👍🇬🇧🇺🇸
There are so many factors that could influence whether no dig vs dig performs better! I personally prefer digging because I do trench composting and lasagna composting. My yard produces so much waste it's the only way to manage my waste but also feed the garden. I would assume overall though dig method probably performs better. In years that I dig the garden more thoroughly before planting I usually have better success. Also digging adds oxygen down into the soil which is beneficial
Great points Lisa. It's been a big change from Victoria to here but we've enjoyed trying different methods.
Hope you having a great long weekend!!
Colleen 😊
Nice experiment, really comparing two different ways of planting. I think next year the no till side will catch up a bit. Crazy year for bugs in WI too, never had aphids, flea beetles or squash vine borers, 1st year finding earwigs in my broccoli.
That was a leaf footed bug, you had a bunch of their orange larva on a plant in a short video a while back. OBTW, they are a plant pest.
Totally agree on trellising winter squash, and I like to vertically grow my zucchini. I had 2 plants in a pretty small space, trimming the bottom leaves as it grows and tying to a bamboo pole. I let it sprawl out a bit and found a zucchini I had missed that was gigantic, put on the free table, someone took it.
For sure will not let the aluminum foil stay on the plant so long, the rest of the plant is still doing well.
Will be interesting to see next years progress. Stay Well!!!
Hey check out The Old Alabama Gardener video on squash. Excellent way to prep them before transplanting imo !!
It's next level down here foresure but we've learned a ton and we'll improve year over year 🤞
Thanks for the awesome comments Brian, we totally appreciate it !!
Cheers J&C 🌱🤞👍🇺🇸🤜🤛
So will you keep the experiment going, till the one side again and just add compost to the no till side? So many bugs want to eat all of the veggies. Pest pressure was bad for me and I did not stay on top of it.
That's the plan for now Rick but you know us lol !!
We're planning a big expansion so we'll see how things go !!
People round here said it was an exceptionally bad year for pests. Fingers crossed for next year!!
Cheers J&C 🌱🤞👍🤜🤛🇺🇸
I think Gary pilarchik (the Rusted Garden 😂😂 no relation) uses wood ash on his vines but I’d have to go back and check. Luckily or not I’ve done most of mine in pots so far so good. Have a super Labour Day weekend kiddos, Ali 🌻🇨🇦
Thanks Ali !!! We'll check it out but I can't believe the peat pressure down here. I waiting for a VW beetle to drive through the garden 😂😂😂
Hope you have a great Labour Day !!
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Great presentation Colleen. I think there is far too much inflexibility around the dig / no dig methodology. Too many "experts" give out the advice that this or that has to be adhered to or else dreadful things will happen. In my experience I have had great crops from both methods and personally I'd like you to try the same methodology on the two areas next year to see if the no till side comes along better. The point a lot of people miss out on is soil type, as you guys have perfectly investigated (in past videos) the percentage of clays really makes a difference, and in that way you are lucky to be able to experience different types, I only have my local medium loam to pass on my thoughts, you wonderful people have the two soil types. I have no experience of your pests, but as a general rule of thumb it is better to make a home for whatever nature eats your pests than to try and eradicate them yourselves.
You're right about the pests. There is a squash they just love and many people use it as a trap. Problem is it's one my mom really likes, too! I think it's the Mother Hubbard winter squash.
And we do feel lucky about being able to experience such a different climate and soil. It just really emphasizes how flexible gardening has to be. Cheers Colleen
I'm feeling grateful I dont have those little horrors! Squash grow amazing for you yet so many pests. Squash grows poorly for me with no pests. We all have such interesting location factors.
Ha! We had to work REALLY hard to get them to grow in Victoria before the powdery mildew took over - but that was just from a lack of heat.
What kind of challenges do you have with your squash? Cheers, Colleen
those bugs will get you, they work fast
Lol they are a horror show! But I also got over having to kill them. They just have to go! Cheers Colleen
Ok, I'm so happy to say we don't get the bugs that you do.
I really didn't know you cut the bottom leaves off, which makes perfect sense, although I've never done it and my plants die extra early..🤔🤣😂
I, basically don't till as I'm not able bodied, so it's no dig all the way... BUT .
I'm probably wrong here....if you till, you are loosening the ground up 4" below ground ( give or take), which will let the roots grow down to make a more sturdy plant then it can concentrate on the top growing and producing..
No till ... maybe under the amendments that you have placed there, the soil will be more compact, therefore the plant would maybe not be able to grow its roots down far as quickly and may have to concentrate on both anchorage and producing through its life...
I'm probably taking a load of rubbish but that's my theory..🤔🐮🐮🐮
Stay awesome...🐮🐮🐮
Lol - not rubish, Manda - I think Jason agrees with you that in our particular context (SO MUCH CLAY!!) the ground is more likely to get heavy - not sure if it gets truly compact if we just walk on it, but that must have some effect. So yes, root growth just has to be a bit slower in the no-till. No-till worked GREAT for us when we had sandier soil - but maybe that also corresponds to your theory - that kind of soil was less likely to get compact because of it's components - more sand and sandy loam.
I think your theory has some merit!
And yes, you would get carried away by some of the bugs here! Giant!! lol - cheers, Colleen
@@clivesconundrumgarden thank you..
I'm glad you thought i was talking sense 🤣😂
We do have on giant grasshopper here , I've never seen one that big before until I got my allotment it's about 2/3 inches long, now that I am scared of and I have been known to do a little girly scream when I see one...😱🐮🐮🐮
Leaf footed bug. I agree. Winter squash needs privacy from trampling. Grow more squash for the worms. 🎉🎉❤🪱🪱
Good point, Anne - we don't have quite as many hungry worms to feed as you do, but I will tell you secretly that Jason's worms that he got from you are doing fabulous! He's been regularly harvesting castings already. Stay cool this weekend! Cheers, Colleen
Impressive harvests! I enjoyed hearing your takeaways. Not sure if anyone mentioned but that’s a leaf-footed bug and they (plus their nymphs) can cause major damage.
Thanks Val!! We'll add Leaf-footed bug to the laundry list 😂😂😂
It's next level down hear. In Victoria everyone goes nuts when they see an aphid 😂😂😂
Stay Awesome Val !!
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I forget how bad the bugs are over there...until I talk to my dad or brother and they go through the list of insects they're battling at any given time. I bet your Victoria garden is looking pretty carefree from your new point of view!@@clivesconundrumgarden